User talk:JLaTondre/Archive 2012

Cover art credit for Prophets in Hell
Can you confirm the spelling of the cover artist's credit in this record? If the spelling is correct please make the cover art credit a variant by Peter Scanlan. Thanks. Mhhutchins 05:15, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
 * The copyright page lists the artist as "Scanlon" and I don't see a signature. There are no other editions of the publication that credit "Scanlan", nor is "Scanlan" credited with any other titles in the series. If you have a source for the publication credit being a typo vs. a different person, I'll leave it to you to create the variant. -- JLaTondre (talk) 21:50, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
 * The spelling of the name has been used several times, enough for a pseudonym to be created. Again, if the record's credit matches the book credit, you can create a variant of the cover art record. Mhhutchins 03:42, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
 * While a pseudonym does exist, I don't see any information as to how that was determined (no notes at the publication level or title level; no publications with same cover credited to both versions). While I agree it is likely to the same person, I am not comfortable making such changes on the mere fact that it differs by only a single letter (that's a slippery slope). If you believe it to be the same person, then you are welcome to make the variant. -- JLaTondre (talk) 23:44, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
 * The same artwork used in your verified record was used for the Gurps role-playing game Grimoire, and is credited to Peter Scanlan here. Hope this is enough evidence that "Peter Scanlon" is a misspelled credit for Peter Scanlan. 00:41, 9 February 2012 (UTC)Mhhutchins

"Snow-Eyes", by Stephanie A. Smith
I added some minor notes, primarily the Canadian price, to your verified edition of this book. Chavey 08:13, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
 * I just added the cover artist credit source also (that was one of my early verifications). -- JLaTondre (talk) 13:05, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Broken Amazon Image Links & Missing Images
I just ran across one of my verifications whose Amazon link was broken, but which was not caught by your script. In case you want to try to debug your script, I've left the record as is -- it's available at The Calling of Bara. Chavey 16:13, 7 March 2012 (UTC)


 * It's not actually a broken link - Amazon are returning a 1 pixel blank image. Obviously that's of no use to us, but it's not a "404 Not Found" error. BLongley 16:57, 7 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes. That should be detectable so I'll see about adding that along with the change detection. -- JLaTondre (talk) 22:00, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

Pyromancer cover image
I replaced the Amazon cover image with a scanned cover image for your verified. AndonSage 03:17, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

The Vacant Throne - cover image
I replaced the Amazon cover image with a scanned cover image for your verified. AndonSage 20:05, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

Dracula in London
I merged the covers for two publications of Dracula in London that you rejected for reason: covers don't match and I'm confused since the two covers are identical...?Ofearna 05:16, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
 * While the artwork is the same, the text is not. However, your question made me dig back through the discussion archives and I found that we generally do merge those cases even if they are not exact duplicates. I went ahead and merged them. Sorry for the confusion. -- JLaTondre (talk) 21:11, 11 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks so much!Ofearna 18:46, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Dragon's Tribute
Please see the message I left on the submitter's page concerning this record. It's a good idea to get new editors to either do a primary verification or record the source for their data. And linking to the record in the wiki message will help them too. Thanks for handling the submission. I saw that it had been in the queue for some time. Lately, I've grown tired of dealing with new editors and was taking a break (it can be very exhausting at times). So I appreciate your handling it. Mhhutchins 14:27, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Good grief, I'm not sure how I missed that. Thanks for catching it. I'll keep your pointers in mind for the future. It's an interesting balance dealing with new editors. Correcting problems without being discouraging can be tricky. -- JLaTondre (talk) 21:59, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
 * And that's a dilemma I've had to face for five years. I would hope that new editors are thick-skinned when it comes to my handling of their submissions, but every so often (rarely) I've ran a few away. I try not to feel any remorse, but console myself by saying they wouldn't have stayed around no matter how I treated them. Mhhutchins 01:39, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

Dear Both,

I actually caught my mistake on marking it as a full novel (they had a different SS only e-book that I saw first, and did not pay attention to the link I clicked to find the proper hardcopy version) when it was a short story inside a different novel after I had submitted. I wanted to change it, but was not sure how and assumed it might just be rejected and then I would resubmit. Just wanted to avoid redundant activities for the moderators to edit. No worries about being thin or thick skinned, I am quite aware that you cannot take much time for every submission. I will try to learn and hopefully be able to help make you lists more complete. I love your site and think it is a wonderful service for those who wish to find works by authors that we did not know about before. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Helixhamin (talk • contribs).
 * If you click the "My Pending Edits" link under the "Logged In As" heading on the left side of the ISFDB pages, it will show any submissions that have not yet been accepted by a moderator. You are able self-reject such edits so if you ever find yourself in a similar position, you can always cancel it yourself and make a new one vs. waiting on a moderator. Glad you're here. We appreciate additional help. If you ever have questions, feel free to ask at the ISFDB:Help desk or at any moderator's talk page. -- JLaTondre (talk) 11:13, 18 April 2012 (UTC)

The Year's Best Fantasy & Horror 2008: Twenty-First Annual Collection
I've made the following change in the trade paperback edition of this title which also changed your verified record of the hardcover edition: I changed the author credit for the story on page 27 from "M. Ricket" to M. Rickert. I've also changed the title of the trade paperback to The Year's Best Fantasy & Horror 2008: Twenty-First Annual Collection (note the ampersand), which is how my book is credited on the title page. Please check your copy, and if it matches, change it along with the title record. Thanks. Mhhutchins 22:07, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
 * That one will take a couple of days as I don't have it with me. -- JLaTondre (talk) 22:47, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
 * Confirmed; changes made. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 22:42, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Secondhand Charm
Please consider disambiguating the publisher given in this record. We try to keep records of books published by the US division separately by giving the publisher as Bloomsbury USA. Thanks. Mhhutchins 18:43, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Done. Thanks for catching. -- JLaTondre (talk) 11:17, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Little Myth Marker
Replaced the Amazon scan for [this]. --~ Bill, Bluesman 14:27, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

Also for [Myth Conceptions] --~ Bill, Bluesman 14:41, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

"Sword and Sorceress XVII"
You verified this publication, which includes a note that it is DAW Collectors #1124. However, that DAW number is used for the previous edition, "Sword and Sorceress XVI". Inspecting the cover image, it seems that this is actually DAW 1152, and that is confirmed by W. Fraser Sandercombe, a book dealer who specializes in SF, and is usually pretty reliable. As such, I have changed the DAW number shown for this book, but I would appreciate it if you would verify this number for me -- especially since WorldCat lists both XVI and XVII as DAW #1124. Please check both the cover and the copyright page, since there are examples where two different numbers are listed in these two places. Thanks, Chavey 19:37, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
 * The copyright page has 1124, but the cover has 1152. I've updated the note appropriately. -- JLaTondre (talk) 12:42, 29 July 2012 (UTC)

"Highwaymen", by Jennifer Roberson
Could you also check the DAW number on your verified copy of Highwaymen? We have this listed as #1060, but another standard listing gives it as #1058. This may be a situation where there are numbers on both the cover and the copyright page which disagree with each other. Chavey 11:23, 28 July 2012 (UTC)


 * The copyright page has 1060, but the cover has 1059. 1058 doesn't appear at all. That site has 1060 as, but we have that as 1062 per WorldCat. However, the verified is listed as 1062 which matches the site. A bit of a mess. I've left Highwaymen entered as 1060 per the principle of recording what is entered in the book and since that isn't yet contradicted by a verified publication. If you want to change that based on the external source (with the appropriate note addition), feel free. -- JLaTondre (talk) 13:11, 29 July 2012 (UTC)


 * No, I agree with you: If the book claims to be #1060, we should list it that way. I suspect that the site I linked to "corrects" some of the numbers to what they "should" have been. There is value in that, but our philosophy is to list what the books actually say. I've added a bunch of comments about the series at the publication series listing, including these comments on this particular set of numbers. Chavey 03:20, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

DAW Collectors publication series
I and a couple of other editors are trying to formalize the DAW Collectors Books publication series. The consensus is that we should include only those publications that explicitly list their DAW number, either on the cover, the spine, or the copyright page. This applies to, apparently, all first editions and to some reprint editions, but not to most of the reprints. You have verified several DAW reprint editions where the notes list the DAW number. However, I can't tell from the wording in the notes whether this number is listed because (i) it was actually stated on the book; or (ii) the number was inherited from other editions with the DAW number listed. If you have the time, I would appreciate it if you could check these reprints and when they have the number actually listed, update the notes to reflect that. For example, adding "(on cover)" or "(on copyright page)" to a phrase like "DAW Collectors No. 123". The publications you've verified that fall into this scenario are:  Marion Zimmer Bradley's Sword and Sorceress XIII, 3rd printing Greenberg and Potter's Assassin Fantastic, 2nd printing  Thanks much, Chavey 18:41, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Done. -- JLaTondre (talk) 23:46, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the help, Chavey 02:22, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

I added the Canadian price to your verified
I added the Canadian price to your verified &Erikson|Don Erikson] 18:39, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

Dreaming Down-Under
New scan to replace the amazon image and added the $C price to [this] --~ Bill, Bluesman 16:24, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Year's Best SF 15
Found artist for your verified here. Hauck 16:14, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

The Restaurant at the End of the Universe
Re: The Restaurant at the End of the Universe

Adding LCCN to notes.--Astromath 23:46, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Shadowrun: Never Deal With a Dragon
Re: Shadowrun: Never Deal With a Dragon

Deleting "Shadowrun" from title to be consistant with other volumes. Replacing Amazon image with one scanned from personal collection. Adding note about "trilogy" title.--Astromath 17:47, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Shadowrun: Choose Your Enemies Carefully
Re: Shadowrun: Choose Your Enemies Carefully

Deleting "Shadowrun" from title to be consistant with other volumes. Replacing Amazon image with one scanned from personal collection. Adding note about trilogy title.--Astromath 18:03, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

Go Quest, Young Man
Re: Go Quest, Young Man

Adding LCCN to notes.--Astromath 00:56, 23 December 2012 (UTC)

Heir To the Empire
Re: Heir To the Empire

Replacing Amazon image with correct one scanned from personal collection.--Astromath 02:52, 29 December 2012 (UTC)