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The Cats of Tanglewood Forest
I see you verified this pub. I'm looking for the page with the Vess drawing "I Didn't Know She Was a Bottle Witch", which is a picture of a tree with a bunch of bottles hanging from it with a small cat in the foreground. The drawing appears in Spectrum 20, and I'd like to reference the page. Bob 02:01, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
 * That seems to be the two page spread on pages 66 and 67. There is some whitespace on 67 with text in it.  Hope this helps. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 02:53, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Perfect! Thanks, Ron. Bob 18:53, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Strange Ports of Call
I submitted an edit to http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?33526 per note I added to http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=User_talk:Rtrace/Changes_to_Verified_Pubs. However, per http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Markwood User:Mhhutchins is holding the edit pending your verification because I also changed the price to $4.00, adding a note explaining this is the price printed on the dust jacket but the book is often found price-clipped with $3.75 stamped on top front flap. Please let us know if this edit is OK with you. Markwood 01:24, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I answered on your talk page since that is likely where Michael is watching the conversation. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 01:43, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

The Illustrated Wee Free Men
You verified this pub, one of three versions in the data base. I don't understand why the three versions are not merged, but that's really not my question. Spectrum 16 has an illustration titled "Drome Attack" showing the drome attacking Tiffany (I presume) and a number of the Wee Free Men attacking the drome. Can you tell me what page that illustration appears on? Bob 16:16, 29 January 2014 (UTC)


 * I couldn't say about the US editions. They vary by a month and could potentially be two printings, but I doubt it.  My copy is the UK edition and should not be merged with either of the other two.  The illustration could be the one on pages 144 and 145, but without seeing it in your book, I couldn't say for certain.  The novel is lavishly illustrated and the illustrations are not captioned.  It's been years since I've read it (the unillustrated edition) and I have no memory of what a "Drome" is supposed to look like. I'm also not certain that matching an illustration to a page number is particularly useful.  Since the US edition(s) have a different page count and if the dates are correct, predate the UK edition, the page number may not match the page number of the first appearance of the illustration.  --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 03:34, 30 January 2014 (UTC)


 * I can understand not merging the cover art, but I would have thought that merging the pubs would be obvious. Thanks for the info. Bob 17:54, 30 January 2014 (UTC)


 * We never merge different printings of the same title. Each gets its own publication record.  --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 13:39, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Art of Imagination duplicate entries
There are two pieces in this record which are coming up on a error script showing that they each appear twice in the publication. The first, Skullface and Others (cover), appears on pages 368 and 563. The other, Weird Tales, April 1933 (cover), appears on pages 338 and 572. You can't see the second appearance in the display of the record because the software can't show two works that have been merged as one but appear in a publication twice. Are these duplicates actually identical, or are they sufficiently different that you could disambiguate them so that each appearance is displayed in the record? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 02:56, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I am aware of the issue with repeated titles within a collection and I generally append a "[2]" to the second appearance in these situations and then variant back to the original title. I was wondering if someone had merged the two variants causing this situation.  However, I suppose its possible that I missed these ones. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 13:36, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Misaligned ISBN
Can you check to see if the ISBN-13 is given in this book? Thanks. Mhhutchins 07:25, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
 * 10 digit is on the copyright page (verso of the title page). 13 digit is on the back jacket and slipcase (above the bar code).  I  don't think we have a policy, but I would assume that the copyright page trumps the others. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 12:50, 3 February 2014 (UTC)


 * If you wouldn't mind, please note that unusual situation in the Note field of the record. The publication will continue to show up on the clean-up script, but at least there'll be a note to explain the reason why an ISBN-10 appears in a 2010 publication record, and no on will need to ask you again. Thanks. Mhhutchins 19:48, 3 February 2014 (UTC)


 * No problem. The copyright page has 10 digit ISBNs for all three editions and I've updated the unverified edition as well.  If you don't get a response about the other verified edition, I can make a similar update there.  Presumably, all three are the same print run with different bindings, or some added content. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 02:43, 4 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks you. I've found another one that's missing the ISBN-13, I think because it's a POD of a 1997 edition but without updating the ISBN. Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 02:03, 5 February 2014 (UTC)


 * That's probably correct. There is a bar code on that page, as well as the back cover which has the 13 digits of the longer ISBN under the bar code (the numbers only: "9 781880 448533"). Above the bar code, on the back cover only, the 10 digit number appears with the label ("ISBN 1-880448-53-X").  I added a note before I noticed the longer ISBN in the bar code.  I'm not sure if we should consider the longer number or not. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 02:44, 5 February 2014 (UTC)


 * That 13-digit number was the EAN, which was the basis for what eventually became the ISBN-13. If it doesn't specify "ISBN" above the barcode, it's best not to use it as one. There are tons of books published in the 90s with a EAN-encoded barcode on the back of the book. I'd hate editors to start entering them as ISBN-13s. Thanks again for checking. Mhhutchins 03:12, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Iguanacon Program Book
Do you know if the editor (and author of the essay on Ellison) in this publication is the same as ? "Bill Patterson" is now entered as one of his pseudonyms. If it's not the same person, he would have to be disambiguated (such as "Bill Patterson (II)", since there's already a "Bill Patterson (I)"). Thanks. Mhhutchins 16:31, 4 February 2014 (UTC)


 * There was nothing in the program book. It took a bit of digging, but I found this page which identified the author of the Heinlein book as being involved with Iguanacon, so I've made the variant.  It was a fun bit of detective work.  Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 02:31, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

"Lasher", by Anne Rice
I added a month of publication to you verified copy of this book, from the back dj flap, along with a couple of minor notes. Chavey 20:14, 4 February 2014 (UTC)