User talk:JLochhas

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Adding artist credits to verified pubs
You added a note to, stating that the cover artist was. You did not indicate your source for this info. How do you know? Is there a credit in your copy, or is a signature visible, or do you know the artist's style, or do you have a secondary source? It would be helpful if you added a further note giving your source.

Also, it is helpful if you sign these kinds of notes with your ISFDB user ID and the month and year, for future reference of who was able to provide particular information. I have done so for you in this case.

Also, this particular publication has been "verified" by User:Don Erikson. Our local convention is that when adding non-trivial data to a verified publication, we leave a note on the verifier's talk page, in this case User talk:Don Erikson. I have done that for you in this case as well, so this is for future reference. (When changing information on a verified pub, the custom is to ask the verifier first, and wait a reasonable time, say up to a week, for a response)

I hope this is helpful to you. Welcome to the ISFDB. 21:35, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

The same comments apply to: -DES Talk 21:49, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Artists' references
Johnny Bruck (, 22 March 1921 to 6 October 1995) did thousands of scifi covers for German publishers since the mid 1950s right up to his very last day. A large set of his works can be found here: http://www.perrypedia.proc.org/index.php/Johnny_Bruck. His style is very distinctive, although he was influenced by many artists of his time, Ed Valigursky, Ed Emshwiller, Frank Frazetta, and Chris Foss, just to name a few. I'll add the source reference in a note with the resp. books. -User:JLochhas 11:46, 30 May 2009 (UTC) For I'd have several references: For Les Edwards there are two extensive sources: -User:JLochhas 12:06, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 * http://www.net-cafe.hu/fantasy.php?spg=3
 * http://www.imagenetion.net/0/bpennington1.htm (also pages 2 and 3)
 * and his website: http://www.brucepennington.co.uk/
 * his agent Thomas Schlück: http://ts1.schlueckagent.com/
 * his own website: http://www.lesedwards.com/

Workbook (items to be removed once the resp. notes are updated: -JLochhas 17:33, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 * - H.J. Bruck - Perry Rhodan #200, published 1965
 * - H.J. Bruck - Perry Rhodan #173, published 1964
 * - H.J. Bruck - Terra Nova #8, published 1967 This cover is not credited or with a signature, however all covers for that series of dime novel were done by either Mr Bruck or Munich-based artist Karl Stephan. This one's by Bruck.
 * - H.J. Bruck - Perry Rhodan #160, published 1964
 * - H.J. Bruck - Perry Rhodan #132, published 1964
 * - H.J. Bruck - Perry Rhodan #115, published 1963
 * - Bruce Pennington - the illustration was also used for Science Fiction Monthly, June 1975.
 * - Richard Clifton-Dey - cover identified on his agent's website - and here, although he's wrongly credited as "E M Clifton-Day".
 * - Bruce Pennington - this cover is included in his book 'Ultraterranium', published 1991. A digital copy is here.
 * - Les Edwards - cover identified on his agent's website
 * - Eddie Jones - artist's signature is included on this slightly larger version of the cover in the lower right corner.
 * - Richard Clifton-Dey - I don't know about the but the 1973 edition I believe to have edited is by Richard, also to be found on his agent's website, and here, although he's wrongly credited as "E M Clifton-Day"..
 * - Bruce Pennington - this cover is included in his book 'Ultraterranium', published 1991. A digital copy is here.
 * - Bruce Pennington - this cover is included in his book 'Ultraterranium', published 1991. A digital copy is here.
 * - Bruce Pennington - the style is 'typical' Pennington, had this one verified on from a site I need to dig out.
 * - Ray Feibush - the illustration was also used for Science Fiction Monthly, April 1975.
 * - Bruce Pennington - tbc
 * - Bob Layzell - There's a gallery here. Bob's signature looks like an interwoven L and R. On this picture you can detect it near to the 'exhaust'.
 * Well, now they are all confimed... Thanks for the support. -JLochhas 14:33, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Caviar
Can you tell me where you get the cover-credit for Les Edwards from? I can't see any sign of a signature or credit. BLongley 12:06, 25 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Similar question for . BLongley 14:36, 25 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Same for . BLongley 21:16, 25 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Same for, , , , , , , and.


 * OK, all these updated with notes except for "Revolt in 2100" and "The Interpreter". Sorry about the mix-up on The Small Assassin, I'd forgotten I've got two editions. BLongley 18:27, 31 May 2009 (UTC)


 * "The Interpreter" also confirmed from Science Fiction Monthly January 1974. BLongley 20:30, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Welcome to the wiki
I'm glad you found the wiki, and thank you for indicating the sources you are using to identify cover artists. -DES Talk 13:53, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

Latest Edits
Thanks for the latest Josh Kirby credits, accepted with slight clarification as to what the source was being used for. Have you found the source for "Revolt in 2100" yet? I'm being pushed to help clear the approval queue. BLongley 21:24, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
 * As of today only the following "indicators":

--JLochhas 09:55, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
 * http://www.djabbic.co.uk/Artists.php
 * http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidcowie/page70/
 * http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?isbn=0450010333
 * http://www.i-m-t.demon.co.uk/books/rahein.htm
 * http://www.rileybooks.co.uk/?page=shop/flypage&product_id=2587&CLSN_770=1244878768770b28a84dbf795e64cb59


 * D'oh! Finally found a credit on the book itself. (In very small print.) BLongley 08:06, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Author Images
Before you submit too many, be aware that we need permission to link to images on other sites. Do you have permission to use images on http://perry-rhodan.net/ ? Or is there a general permission already expressed on the site? (I'm afraid I don't read German.) BLongley 08:39, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
 * See ISFDB:Image linking permissions for details and a sample note asking for permisison. -DES Talk 12:54, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I have the submissions on hold pending your response on the permission issue. -DES Talk 13:37, 13 June 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't read German but babelfish does. I didn't see an explicit permission on the website, but the moderators should be familiar with the concept as they have a text and image linking page where they record permission they receive. (Though it appears they mainly copy text not pictures form other sites). Kevin 14:16, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I find at http://perry-rhodan.net/information/faq/faq3.html#3 a statement that babelfish translates as "I want to use pictures of your homepage also for my. May I do that? / No, that would be a break of copyright. We arranged however a collection of pictures, which you may use. You find our downloadrange here." I am not clear if this applies to the author images, and it refers to downloading and reusing, not to hot-linking. But it suggests some caution. -DES Talk 14:29, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
 * I've submitted a request to the publisher and expect a response over the next couple of days.-JLochhas 14:26, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you. -DES Talk 13:59, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
 * There having been no response in more than two months, I am going to approve these, then copy the images and upload them to our wiki with a fair use justification. I hope you ahve no objections. -DES Talk 21:11, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Edits approved, images copied, author pages set to use copies on our wiki. Issue dealt with, i trust. -DES Talk 23:05, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

E. C. Tubb submissions
Hello, great that you are back! It seems that things have changed in the meantime. We now variant other language editions (titles) to the original version, so I have to reject your submissions. Please enter them as New Novels and then variant (analog to the existing French variant of The Winds of Gath). Thanks for submitting, Stonecreek 14:31, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Sorry for the fuss. I approved, unmerged and than varianted on myself (didn't thought at first of this possibility)! Sorry again, Stonecreek 14:40, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Stonecreek, thanks for your help - and Patience ;) JLochhas 15:02, 19 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Re: Projekt Ming-Vase: Thanks for adding these two editions. However, I'll refine the data a bit. We handle translations as variants (so the german titles will have to be varianted to their respective parent titles) but in someway also as new, because the translation does alter the text in a major way. I think that the Goldmann edition was the first publication of the translations by Nichau, so I'll set the title dates for the shortfictions to 1968 (see here and here for another translation of a collection and one of its content titles). I'll also merge the titles for the two collections, because it is basically the same title. One way to avoid the doubled entry is to use the 'Clone This Pub' feature from the left tool bar (and then to remove the surplus titles in a second step). But please keep them coming! Stonecreek 19:30, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Publication Month and Day
Hi John, I've just accepted your new entries of the publication series E. C. Tubb-Taschenbuch. Some of the new pubs have the month and the day of the publication. I wonder where did you get this information? Rudam 16:00, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Moewig officially published its pocket books together with other dime novels / Groschenromane such as Perry Rhodan on Tuesdays - at least betweeen July 1973 and around 2000. I had a Job in a sales Point back in the mid 1980s and that's how I come to know. Cheers.. JLochhas 16:06, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
 * That's what I remember from a customer's point of view, but since remembrance can sometimes be faulty, I hesitated to enter exact days; but I think a doubled memory is quite secure. Stonecreek 16:35, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
 * to be quite precise: although the official publication was on Tuesdays a set of stores sold the material the preceding Friday - and there were some that even had the books a week in advance... JLochhas 16:37, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, we try to enter the official date of publication, regardless if there's a time-lag of a few days to the actual date of distribution. Most paperbacks (and many other publications) are distributed in the month preceding their official month of publication, but we try to capture the latter. But I'd think the Tuesdays were the official dates of publication. Stonecreek 17:54, 2 February 2014 (UTC)


 * If the publication date isn't stated in the book itself, please provide the source for the date in record's Note field. Thanks. Mhhutchins 07:11, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

File size limits
was originally uploaded at 183 kb. The ISFDB standards ask that you not upload a file larger than 150 kb (you should have got a warning at the time of the upload). Exceptions can be made for images that are wraparound cover art. I downloaded the file and reduced its resolution by 2%, saving 40 kb in size, without any perceptible loss in image quality. Please keep this limit in mind for future file uploads. Thanks for contributing. Mhhutchins 07:09, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Lesson learned. Thanks. JLochhas 11:05, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Hüter der Vergangenheit by E. C. Tubb
You mistakenly updated a previously verified record for the August 1985 printing with completely new data to create a May 1976 printing. I assume you meant to create a new record and not remove all of the previous data. So to avoid your having to enter all of the data again for the 1976 printing, I cloned the original record to create a new one for the 1985 printing. Then I accepted the submission which overrode the original record's data. You'll have to now go back and do a primary verification of the new record for the 1985 printing. (Verifications do not transfer when a record is cloned.) Thanks. Mhhutchins 09:28, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your help. By some ill fate I managed to insert two identical entries one and two - and instead of deleting the second I wanted to use it for the 1976 imprint of the same novel. And now we have three of them... ;) I'll remove your kind add-on and then we should link the 1976 edition to Eye of the Zodiac. Cheers.JLochhas 11:02, 3 ebruary 2014 (UTC)


 * The title records of both printings should be merged into one. That's how they were when I left them last night. Something happened in the meantime. I'll re-merge them. Thanks. Mhhutchins 19:44, 3 February 2014 (UTC)


 * Can you confirm my information that the two publications contain different translations? If so, we would handle them as different titles because they constitute different texts (see the german editions of Slan here and here for an example). In this case you could use the Unmerge button (left tool bar on the title level) and then variant the new title (best to unmerge the later one) to the original English.
 * There also seems to be a misdating by one week of the 1976 publication in the Terra Astra publication series: this digest should have the same official publication date as Perry Rhodan #773 (per previews in #s 245 and 257 of 'Terra Astra' that I have at hand), which was published 1976-06-15 according to our data, not 1976-06-22. It is somewhat tedious but cases as this are proof that we do need sources for the data, including dates. Stonecreek 07:55, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
 * One or rather two additional thoughts: as the previews were usually published during the Seventies in every fourth issue, there might possibly be one in 'Terra Astra' #253 (for TA #s254-257 and PR #s774-777, among other titles). The date for PR #773 is sustained by a page of Perrypedia.
 * Also I have found an implicit credit for cover artist Eddie Jones, that I would like to add to 'Terra Astra', if it's okay. Stonecreek 14:48, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Good Point. More digging to do in the vaults. What I am certain about is that TA 250-4 were published in June. It clearly says so in the Copyright section. How this correlates with Moewig's remaing Output I Need to check. JLochhas 18:09, 4 February 2014 (UTC)


 * I also added the price (and an accompanying note) to this book. Stonecreek 09:51, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I added the implicit art credit for Eddie Jones to the notes: please take a look if it seems okay.
 * Thanks, this works perfectly. - JLochhas 21:51, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
 * For the exact date it seems that we have reached a point where there are two mutually exclusive statements, both in effect made on the publisher's side. Do you have any idea how this can be resolved? Stonecreek 14:15, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I prefer to rely on the publishing month stated in the copyright section. Mainly because it works back to July 1973: Official publication date of Perry Rhodan #1000 is / was 21/10/1980. Counting back week by week the "Copyright month" is always identical to the actual month of publication. I have validated that myself. In Addition, the ad on the back cover page usually is identical across all of Pabel-Moewig's scifi and Fantasy novels. This holds true for June 1976 as well. For me that's sufficient evidence for our novel to have hit the stores on 22/06/1976. - JLochhas 21:51, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Fine, I think you are right! The only reason for the misleading preview I can imagine is that the publisher wanted to emphasize the Perry Rhodan title published in the same week. Did you have time to look into the two editions of Hüter der Vergangenheit? The first to my knowledge was translated by H. P. Lehnert, the second by Michael Nagula (several titles seem to have been newly translated for E. C. Tubb-Taschenbuch). Stonecreek 08:46, 7 February 2014 (UTC)