User talk:JLaTondre/Archive 2013

Chicks Kick Butt
I have made minor changes to the notes of - added LCCN & & OCLC #, gave more info about cover. No changes or deletions. BungalowBarbara 23:43, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

I added the Canadian price to your verified
I added the Canadian price to your verified even though there is a verified Canadian printing with the same date with a different price.Don Erikson 19:18, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Where did you get the Canadian price for the US printing? I don't see it on my copy. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 19:24, 6 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Ok so here's the problem.I've seemed to have misplaced my copy so I'm going to cancel my submission for now until I find it. It took me years to find a James Blish book I misshelved so we'll see.

Strange Brew anthology
I have made additions to the Notes on - added LCCN, Canada price, OCLC. No deletions or changes. BungalowBarbara 21:22, 6 January 2013 (UTC)

The Apex Book of World SF 2
Hello! In could you please check the name of author of The Tomb. Is it indeed Chen Quifan or Chen Qiufan? Thank you. ForJohnScalzi 11:19, 11 January 2013 (UTC).
 * I'll check. -- JLaTondre (talk) 12:29, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Typo on my part. Fixed. Thanks for catching this. -- JLaTondre (talk) 23:49, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

By the way, I am a Chinese speaker. It should be Chen Qiufan. (Qui is not a valid romanization in Hanyu Pinyin). Lex 03:51, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
 * It probably was a typo on my part. But sometimes, it's a mistake on part of the editor / publisher. In those case, we record what is exactly in the book and make a pseudonym to the correct name. -- JLaTondre (talk) 12:29, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for Newbie advice!
Hi J. Thanks so much, I will follow up on all the links & advice. Lex 03:49, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
 * No problem. -- JLaTondre (talk) 12:29, 12 January 2013 (UTC)

Sword and Sorceress XIV
It appears someone recently added a new author credit (Rachel E. Holmen) to this record. Although I can't be certain who did it, I just wanted to point out to the primary verifier that it came up on the clean-up script which finds mismatches between the author credit of a pub record and the author credit of its title record. So I added Holmen to the author credit of the title record. Mhhutchins 19:34, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
 * That was me when I verified it this weekend. Thanks for catching. -- JLaTondre (talk) 01:40, 16 January 2013 (UTC)

Dark Force Rising
Re: Dark Force Rising Replacing Amazon image with one scanned from personal collection that has pricing along left edge of cover.--Astromath 04:04, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Upon the Dull Earth
Can you confirm that the cover credit is correctly given in this record? If so, please create a variant with the artist's canonical name. Thanks. Mhhutchins 22:36, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
 * My verification fixed. Willem H. has a verification for the leather bound edition. -- JLaTondre (talk) 21:16, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Discoveries in Fantasy
I expanded the notes a bit for Carter's Discoveries in Fantasy. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 15:23, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

I added the Canadian price to your verified
I added the Canadian price and ISBN to your verified.Don Erikson 21:22, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks bringing that record to my attention. The Amazon image wasn't that good so replaced it with a scan. -- JLaTondre (talk) 22:16, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

How to separate two authors with the same name
Re Cathering Wells (2): According to the current rules (here), you should use Roman numerals. Also, when doing this you have to go back and update the last name in the author data, because the system will automatically make the last "word" into the name. In this case, I changed the last name from "(2)" to "Wells". Thanks. Mhhutchins 17:27, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Changed to a roman numeral. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 17:31, 9 March 2013 (UTC)


 * I've learned the "Catherine Wells" (author of the Shelley book) is Catherine Wells-Cole, principal lecturer and Director of Victorian Literature Studies at the University of Roehampton in London, England. A previous book about Charles Dickens was published under her full name. I can't find a birth year or place. Mhhutchins 17:33, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

From Pole to Pole
Hi, just added the anthology The Monster-Maker and Other Science Fiction Classics and I entered a story called "From Pole to Pole: An Account of a Journey Through the Axis of the Earth; Collated from the Diaries of the Late Professor Haffkin and His Niece, Mrs. Arthur Princeps", could you check your copy of this story, which you have listed as merely "From Pole to Pole" in the anthology Steampunk Prime and see if it has the same subtitle, or if it even has a subtitle? MLB 01:05, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Steampunk Prime's version does not have a subtitle. However, Google books shows that the original appearance had the subtitle. I updated the magazine to list the subtitled version and made the non-subtitled version a variant of the subtitled version. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 01:53, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

Disambiguating names
I saw in the Recent Integrations list that you updated this record, and am assuming you changed the author credit. If so, by changing the author name to "William Wood (II)", a new author was created with the last name of "(II)". It's important to remember when when an editor creates disambiguated names that the system automatically makes the last word in the name as the last name of the author. Once the editor has made the change, he has to go back and update the author data, giving the credit author name. Please disregard this if you didn't change this record's author. Mhhutchins 03:00, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Same thing for the author credit of this record. Mhhutchins 03:01, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Fixed. Thanks. I'll try to remember that. -- JLaTondre (talk) 20:41, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Upon the Dull Earth
I've just picked up a copy of this publication, and was going to do another primary verification of the record when I noticed a couple of things. The source you give for the date of publication (Amazon) has 2012-07-31. But the publisher's website has the book not shipped until late August. (The ISFDB record for the leatherbound edition gives the date as 2012-08-00, using the publisher as the source). Also, the credit for the "Notes" is given as by PKD and "uncredited". The book makes it clear that the notes are only by PKD and are reprinted from earlier publications. What is the "uncredited"? (The record for the leatherbound edition gives the same credit, so I'm going to ask the PVer of the record the same question.) Also, the title page gives the title as The Collected Stories of Philip K. Dick: Volume Three: Upon the Dull Earth [1953-1954]. Even if we disregard the collective title (which I personally wouldn't), the simple title given in the record doesn't reflect the title actually stated on the title page. I'll leave a message on the talk page of the other primary verifier to join the discussion. Thanks. Mhhutchins 01:34, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Date: I have no objection to you changing the date and sourcing the publisher.
 * Notes: As I recall, it was written with some content in the third person (i.e. implying Dick hadn't written all the text). I'd have to dig out the book to check, but that might take a day or so. As the leather edition was verified prior to mine, I went with its precedence given the additional content. If you and Willem H. agree that it's equivalent to normal editorial duties and does not need to be called out in the credits, I have no objection to you changing it.
 * Title: I prefer full titles. However, as others don't, my approach is to use the full title if I'm the first verifier of an edition. If I'm not, I let it slide. When there is a binding or a signature special edition that otherwise should be identical, I apply the same logic (as in this case). I have no objection to you adding the full title.
 * Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 12:09, 16 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Title record titles are handled differently from publication record titles. Some editors mistakenly believe they have to be identical, and they really don't. The title record title is considered the "canonical" title, i.e. the one which is most commonly associated with a work. The publication record title should reflect how the book is titled on its title page. If there is a subtitle or series name given on the title page, it's OK to give it fully in the title field of the publication record. But we discourage adding series data in the title field of the title record, i.e. the "canonical" title. Of course, if there is a actual difference between the canonical title and the publication title we have to a variant title record. (I'm currently in discussion with Willem about the Notes credit. I'll get back with you if we decide to remove the "uncredited" credit.) Thanks. Mhhutchins 16:55, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Placing variant titles into series
I believe you may have placed this variant title record into the "Warhammer" series, based on the Recent Integrations listing. It appears on the clean-up script which finds variant titles with series data. It is ISFDB standard to only enter series data into the parent record. This will then automatically display the series in both the parent and variant title records, otherwise only the variant record has the series data and appears in the series list. Thanks. Mhhutchins 19:32, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, I know that. I merged two identical titles & thought I had removed the series information. Fixed. -- JLaTondre (talk) 23:58, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

I added the Canadian price to your verified
I added the Canadian price to your verified .Don Erikson 20:12, 19 March 2013 (UTC)

Pirates of Venus
Can you confirm that there is an ISBN-13 in this 2001 publication? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 19:36, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Updated. I wish the display page indicated whether the record was actually using the 10 or 13 version. Having to remember to check that field on the edit page and not the display page is problematic for my feeble memory. :-) -- JLaTondre (talk) 14:04, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

Hold on submission for Dreams & Nightmares, September 2012
You've got a hold on this submission and had asked Biswas to contact me. I've explained why I believe the record should not be changed and you can reject the submission. Thanks for having Biswas contact me. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 15:24, 23 December 2013 (UTC)