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La roue fulgurante/Soucoupe volante
Hello, I've rejected your submission concerning this title. In this case (creating a variant title) there is a number of steps to follow. The first is to enter a record for _Soucoupe volante_ via the "Add New Novel" item (the meaning of all the fields are explained). This will give you a title record (an immaterial object) with "under" it a publication record (a physical item, here the 1952 book). Once this couple Title/Publication is created (this step is moderated by someone like me, which may take time), you'll be able to add the scan of the cover (via the "Upload new cover scan" hyperlink at the publication level), which will create a directly usable image for the ISFDB (to answer your question elsewhere, the ISFDB is sometimes not fond of accents, I've changed the artist to Rene Brantonne allowing the link to work). The link for the image should next be inserted in the correct field ("Image URL"). The last step is to make your newly created title "Soucoupe volante" a variant of the existing "La roue fulgurante" via the "Make This Title a Variant Title or Pseudonymous Work" link at the "Soucoupe volante" title level which will give you something along the lines of this title where you can notice two variants (one with a slightly different title in french and one in italian). Note that if the texts are markedly different (as they seems to); it's perhaps wiser to keep them separate and mention their connection in the "note" field. Please also keep in mind that you're starting with some of the most complex aspects of the DB. If you have any questions, feel free to ask them here or on my talk page. Hauck 18:12, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I've approved your submission regarding this title, the result is here. I've only had to delete the content of the image field (and the image itself in order for you to have a "clean state"). The correct procedure is to upload the scan AFTER the creation of the publication record. You can use now the "Upload new cover scan" and you'll see that everything works fine (fingers crossed). After uploading your image (which will get all the correct caracteritics from the publication like the publisher or the artist), you'll just have to copy the URL for the image (obtained by clicking on the hyperlink) into the correct field and submit the changes. As for your date question, I favor the printing date or Achevé d'imprimer above the Dépôt légal. The use of the copyright date should be avoided. Hauck 13:23, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Very well, thank you for all your help. Linguist 13:59, 14 January 2014 (UTC).

Cover image for Soucoupe volante
I had to delete the image you uploaded for this title, because it was too large. ISFDB standards ask that no file be larger than 150 kb. (The one you uploaded was 375 kb.) Please resize the file to a lower resolution, although you can maintain a image dimension that is no taller than 600 pixels. Once the publication is in the database, click the link "Upload cover scan" and follow the prompts. After the file has been uploaded to the server, update the publication record to add a link to the cover image. Thanks and welcome to the ISFDB. Mhhutchins 21:23, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Le cinquième coup de trompette
Hello, I've approved your submission and made some alterations (the result is here) : 1) I've changed "5e" to "cinquième" as the title page trumps all, 2) I've inserted the information about the "collection" (in french) in the "Publication series" field where it usually belongs (note that this is a quite recent development of the ISFDB where, prior to the arrival of european editors, the concept of "collection" was virtually unknown). In this case (there seems to be only a single title in the whole collection), it's perhaps an overkill but each editor is sovereign. Hauck 16:10, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

Ravage
I've put your submission on hold as this site seems to imply that the publisher is only "Editions de la toison d'or", can you confirm that both publishers are given on title page as submitted ? Thanks. Hauck 16:20, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
 * The title page only has « Éditions de la Toison d'Or », but the reverse of the page indicates : « Copyright by Editions Denoël, / 19 rue Amélie, Paris ». Linguist 16:53, 15 January 2014 (UTC).
 * It means that for the ISFDB, the publisher is indeed just "Éditions de la Toison d'Or" as the copyright holder is not important and sometimes misleading (e.g. like Presses Pocket titles with a Robert Laffont copyright). I've approved the submission and modified the data accordingly. Hauck 17:03, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I've changed the image URL in your submission from http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/Image:LCPDTRMPTT1954.jpg (wrong URL) to (URL of the image proper). Hauck 17:38, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks, and sorry about these mistakes. Linguist 22:10, 15 January 2014 (UTC).
 * No problem, this mistake : inserting the link of the wiki (which is the first page displayed after uploading) instead of the link of the image (which requires to click on the blue hyperlink just below the cover) is a huge classic. I've made and re-made it regularly. Hauck 06:45, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

Cover image for Ravage
The image of the you uploaded was too large by ISFDB standards. It should be no more than 600 pixels tall. I will resize it, and re-upload it. Thanks. Mhhutchins 19:14, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks a lot, and sorry about that ! Linguist 22:06, 15 January 2014 (UTC).
 * I rejected the submission to update the pub because there were no changes. When an image is replaced, the URL remains the same, so it is unnecessary to update the publication record linked to it. Thanks. Mhhutchins 23:18, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Hello Mhhutchins. I had modified the text in the “Notes” box (rephrasing, typography, etc.). Isn't it possible to do that ? Linguist 09:48, 16 January 2014 (UTC).
 * Yes. That's very much possible. But according to the moderator's display of the submission, no changes in the record were made at all. Please try again to see if it comes through this time. Mhhutchins 18:25, 16 January 2014 (UTC)

Your questions
Hello, please pose your questions at the Help Desk, not in the note to the moderator field. The risk is too high that it might be lost. I think that Michael Hutchins somehow may have missed the change you intended, because it clearly is possible to adapt notes for a given publication.

Your question about the photo: In theory it would be possible to upload a scanned Image, provided the quality is sufficient. But as is the case with other images: we must be sure that there's no copyright pending for a given photo. Stonecreek 10:55, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
 * OK, thank you for your answers ! Linguist 10:59, 16 January 2014 (UTC).

L'exilé de l'espace
Hello, I've changed the publication series from "Collection Science et aventures" to the simpler "Science et aventures" as Publication series is a quasi synonym of Collection. I've also approved your correction for _Les visiteurs de l'an 2.000_ (my mistake) but note that it's the correct etiquette to inform the PVs (not only PV1) of a publication of any major changes (each editor has her/his own notification preferences, usually stated on the top her/his talk page). Hauck 15:38, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Very well, that's noted. Thank you. Linguist 15:48, 16 January 2014 (UTC).

Nouvelles du grand possible
I've approved your submission but regularized the publication series to "Bibliothèque Marabout - Géant" see the whole series here. I suppose that you're aware that the dating of the Marabout titles is tricky as the supposed date given on the last page is sometimes misleading as it's not regurlarly updated. Also note that the collection was already entered here, so the best way to proceed would have been to just clone it (it means that you should verify if your intended entry did already exist). You're now ready for a phase of merging as the author's page needs maintenance. Hauck 11:06, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes, I knew it existed already, but as it was an earlier edition, I thought I needed to create a distinct entry (I still have lots to learn…). As for the date, I remember buying the book when it came out for the first time, il should be right (furthermore, the printing date and the copyright match). As far as the publication series is concerned, I had retained the géant spelling, with a small g, because the word is always spelt that way on the publication (cover, inside blurb, etc.). Linguist 11:13, 17 January 2014 (UTC).
 * You're now dealing with the database structural choices. In this case (for the collection and the short stories) there should be one title record with two publications record (one for each printing). As there are two at the moment, they should individually be merged. To achieve this there is a simple method : 1) go to the author's page here, 2) choose the "Check for Duplicate Titles" editing tool on the left, 3) you'll have a list off all the (strictly except for case differences) matching items in the author's bibliography, 4) you'll have to check the ones you'd like to be merged and click on the "Merge Selected Records" button (once for each couple), 5) choose the characteristics like the date or length (when at variance) that should be retained by the final result and submit the lot by clicking on "Complete Merge". Please note that in some case you entered the short stories with the length (not the type) "Shortfiction" (sf) or "Shortstory" (ss). In the latter case it means that you're sure that the text is less than 7500 words long. Hauck 11:34, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks again for your help. I'll try and do what I can… By the way, the first edition date seems to be 1960, as I found out here, so I'll correct that bit. I'll also update the Author Data. Linguist 11:41, 17 January 2014 (UTC). Linguist 11:41, 17 January 2014 (UTC).
 * Hope I did the merging all right. Once it's approved, I'll have to check the length of some stories again (I couln't change those that were identical, but there seems to be cause for some correction). Linguist 13:34, 17 January 2014 (UTC).
 * You did fine, all's approved. For the precise classification of the length of the stories, don't sweat too much on it, it's quite an anglo-saxon thing (in fact it came from the Hugo categories). Hauck 15:12, 17 January 2014 (UTC)

Prices
Hi. The help does not say so explicitly, but all (modern) prices -- any currency having cents or 100 fractional units -- should be entered to the 1/100th, even if there is no fraction presented. For example, instead of F10 we use F10.00 (with a period for the decimal separator). I accepted your submission of but changed the price to have the decimal and zeroes. Thanks. --MartyD 12:22, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
 * OK, got that. Thanks. Linguist 12:25, 18 January 2014 (UTC).

Les conquérants de Mars/Le secret des XII
A question and some comments/answers about your submission of Les conquérants de Mars/Le secret des XII, which I have on hold. The comments/answers: I will fix these things up when I accept the submission. I only mention them for you to know when you do your next submissions, of which I hope there will be many. Now for my question....
 * For an omnibus, listing the author(s) of the contained works, as you have done, is correct. That the entry screen labels this "Editor" is a mistake.  If you did have information about the editor, you would record that in the notes.
 * You should put a space on either side of the slash in an omnibus title. So Les conquérants de Mars / Le secret des XII instead of Les conquérants de Mars/Le secret des XII.
 * The ISFDB database proper is not part of this Wiki, so you cannot use Wiki-text in the notes to get links, bolding, lists, and other common formatting. You have to use HTML mark-up.  So instead of ' bdfi  to provide a link, you should do  bdfi .  You can find more information and examples in Help:Using_HTML_in_Note_Fields if you are interested.
 * And, as I mentioned in a previous message (which I know you did not see before this submission), the price should include the 1/100ths (F300.00).

I see you gave the publisher as "Éditions d'Hauteville", but then in the notes you say that's a later name for "André Jaeger", and in your notes to the moderator you say there is no place to record "the 1954 publisher (André Jaeger)". What we want to record in the publication record is the publisher's name, as stated in the book. Is that "Éditions d'Hauteville" or "André Jaeger"? We would not record in the publication record anything about the relationship between the publisher's two names. To record that, we can edit the notes on the publisher record. For example, we could add a note to the André Jaeger page that André Jaeger became Éditions d'Hauteville in 19xx. Once there is an Éditions d'Hauteville page, we could add a similar note there.

To record the fact that the omnibus was first published in 1954 by André Jaeger, we would make another publication record for the same title, citing whatever secondary sources we find to help us construct the record. If that's what you mean. If instead you mean that each of the two novels was first published in 1954 by André Jaeger, we would create publications for each of those titles (which will appear in Jean de la Hire's summary once the submission is accepted), and those publication records would show the 1954 and André Jaeger. I hope that makes sense. If you explain a little more what your notes mean, I can tell you more clearly what should be done. Thanks. --MartyD 13:02, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Thank you for all the trouble you are going to in order to make sense of my contributions. I had already asked for Hauck's opinion about the matter, and tried to follow his advice (but I must have misunderstood some of it). The two books were published separately in 1954 by André Jaeger (although these were probably not the original publications), then unsold copies were bound together under a new cover in 1955 or a bit later (maybe after his death in 1956), and this time published as an omnibus by Éditions d'Hauteville (same publisher, different name; André Jaeger's address was 19 rue d'Hauteville). Note that “Les Éditions André Jaeger” were created at the beginning of the fifties in order to publish (or re-publish) the works of Jean de la Hire, ostracized for “misbehaving” during the German occupation and collaborating with the Vichy régime. Thanks again for you help.
 * Note that, regarding the title, the help here is quite clear about the lack of space (that's why I gave this counsel). Hauck 14:55, 18 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Whoops! You are quite right.  I was remembering Imprint + space + slash + space + Publisher, for which the help is also quite clear (but opposite).  Oh well.  I apologize!  --MartyD 17:48, 18 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Ok. you are all set. The omnibus is . You will also find Les Conquérants de Mars and Le secret des XII, to which you can add the 1954 André Jaeger publications if you want. One question:  Why "C"onquérants but "s"ecret?  We have agreed to follow native capitalization conventions for non-English titles, but should those two be capitalized the same way?  Thanks.  --MartyD 00:37, 19 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your work ! To answer your question : both titles are entirely in upper case the way (title pages, top of each page), except for one instance at the end of Le mystère des XII, where the sequel is announced as Les Conquérants de Mars. I suppose that, if Le mystère des XII had occurred anywhere in lower case, it would have been written with a capital M. On that assumption, should I correct the latter ? Linguist 09:49, 19 January 2014 (UTC).


 * I took the liberty to regularize the capitalization as per french rules (only first word and proper nouns in caps), you'll see that there are numerous variants of these rules used in the ISFDB. Hauck 10:27, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

Horizon 3000
Hello, I've approved your submission with slight adjustements : Regularized caps for the Publisher and added decimals to the price. I've also got some questions : 1) what is the exact title of the piece "Les missions de Clay Fal / agent secret de l'espace / Les esclaves de Palum ", if there are three lines of title, it should be entered "Les missions de Clay Fal: Agent secret de l'espace: Les esclaves de Palum", IMHO it's perhaps best to use simply "Les esclaves de Palum" as title, 2) B. Fiarre is likely Bernard Fiarre, how is the text crecdited ? I saw that you entered a length for the short stories (in this case "shortfiction" indicating a text under 7500 words), in the case of the Fiarre text it's perhaps not strictly true (as 16 pages of a magazine may contain more than that amount of words), IMHO again, you can easily stick to the default length. Also, the part of the note about the ancient francs is perhaps supefluous.Hauck 15:22, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Hello Hauck. The title of the short story is « Les esclaves de Palum » (p. 157), but it is presented on the previous page as part of a series “Les missions de Clay Fal (small print) / Agent secret de l'espace (large print)”. This page is made to look more or less like a book cover. The bottom of the page reads : “Récit Spatial-Fiction [space] par Bernard Fiarre” (which answers you next question; I just can't think where I got the B. from, yet I remember saying to myself that the first name was abbreviated). My rough estimate is that the text is about 7200 wds long (there are a few pictures). And as far as the anciens francs are concerned, indeed, that remark may easily be scrapped.
 * Corrections made (except for the notes, it's your call). Hauck 15:58, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

Le drame de l'an 3000
Re this record: I've left these for you to correct. (You'll have to use the "Remove Titles from This Pub" function for the first problem, and then delete the duplicate title from the database. The other two can be fixed by just updating the title records.) If you'd rather that I do it, then let me know. Thank you. Mhhutchins 16:23, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
 * When entering a record of the NOVEL type, do not create a content record for the novel. That's done automatically in the acceptance process. If you look at the record, you'll see that the novel now appears twice in the contents section.
 * When entering generically-titled works (like "Preface", "Introduction", "Afterword", etc.) the titles should be disambiguated by adding the title of work parenthetically, i.e. "Preface (Le drame de l'an 3000)".
 * When creating a content record for interior illustrations, using the INTERIORART type record, the title field should represent the work which is being illustrated, whether it be a short story, essay, or novel. So the title field of this record should be "Le drame de l'an 3000".
 * No problem, I'll do it (I'll try, anyway). I suppose it's the best way to learn… Thank you for your remarks. Linguist 16:29, 18 January 2014 (UTC).


 * Looks good. You're doing very well, especially with those "gotchas" that get every new editor. Keep up the good work. Mhhutchins 18:42, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

Les peaux froides
Submission approved, I've just changed the price from 2,40 to 2.40. Hauck 09:45, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks. Linguist 09:50, 19 January 2014 (UTC).

SFM #5
Submission approved. Congratulations, a heavy task is now ahead of you. First some remarks on your submission proper :
 * Due to the possible confusion with the similarly titled but earlier (1953) french magazine published by Edica, the title should be changed to "Science-Fiction Magazine (1976-1977)".
 * The printing date can be ascertained by using this invaluable reference book here which gives the date of November 1976 to May 1977 for the seven issues, yours being logically the March 1977 one.
 * The Publisher (as per bottom of page 3) is simply Editions de France (you can drop the S.A.), the collaboration with NEL being, for this field, accessory.
 * The price is 8.00 instead of 8,00 (anglo-saxon usage).
 * The binding can be set to "tabloid".
 * The cover is by Tim White see here.

For the contents, you'll have to make extensive use of the original magazine here, keeping in mind that the french team was sometimes quite creative in the author's attributions (e.g. the Andrew Lester of issue #1 is in fact Terry Greenhough). If you'll need help for the next phases (entering the contents, the reviews, merging or variating texts and artworks), don't hesitate to ask me (I've entered all the british issues and have 6 out of 7 of the french ones). Hauck 10:24, 19 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your help. I'll probably need some assistance here; I'll see what I can do, though. Linguist 10:48, 19 January 2014 (UTC).
 * Regarding your questions : 1) for the interior art, it's your call, personnally, I tend to skip all the recurring illustrations tied to a particular series of essays (lettercols, reviews, FAQ,etc.), just in case, the artist for the "Lettres" section is Malcolm Poynter (to show that I'm not that coherent, I've entered it once), 2) for the date, it came from the fact that although it was present at the publication level here, it wasn't at the title level (here, now corrected). Normally, this will give the correct date from now on. Hauck 18:08, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

Le drame de l'an 3000
I've approved your submission for this pub because the book is cited on page 171 of _Le rayon SF_ (2ème édition, on page 152 of the first) even with its cover, but I'll advise caution concerning basing data on commercial sites, particularly priceminister where bibliographical data is perforce sometimes completely false (having a few hundreds titles for sale here has teach me to be prudent). Hauck 16:31, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

Mandragore
Hello, I've approved your submission for the Limat novel but I didn't check first it the title was already present in the database and I should have. The novel was in fact already entered, as is the case with some Angoisse titles, either because they were reprinted in the Superluxe publication series (and entered by me) or because they were translated (here in italian). I'm going to correct my mess but it means that you should now first verify if your intended submission is not already known. In such a case, you should use the "Add Publication to this Title" funtion. Hauck 15:12, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks. Actually, I thought I had checked, but it must have remained a thought ! Linguist 15:14, 20 January 2014 (UTC).

The Blue Man
Hello, I've approved your submission but correct the link to WP (there was a superfluous "." at the end of the URL). I don't understand what you mean by "Couldn't find a box for WP URL (or am I dreaming ?).". Hauck 15:20, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Isn't there usually a special entry for web pages ? Linguist 15:25, 20 January 2014 (UTC).
 * IIRC, there's one at author or publisher level but none either at title or publication level. In this case it's not that bad as the WP data is quite misleading (a 1961 book with an ISBN-13 ?). Hauck 15:33, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
 * OK. So I wasn't dreaming after all… Linguist 15:37, 20 January 2014 (UTC)


 * In this record, the initials "WP" (the link title) isn't commonly used to indicate the Wikipedia article. (I had to click on it to see exactly what it meant.) Actually, it is better to enter title-specific links on the title record. If a webpage is publication-specific (refers only to this publication) then you can link it to the Note field of the publication record. Thanks. Mhhutchins 17:30, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Right; thanks for the tip. Linguist 17:35, 21 January 2014 (UTC).

No artist credit
Hi. One more inconsistency for you to be aware of: If a cover artist is not credited, and credit cannot be determined from some other source, leave the Artist field blank; do not use "uncredited". We use "uncredited" only for authorship. Don't worry, you are not alone in stumbling over this. I removed the uncredited credit from. Thanks. --MartyD 12:02, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks ! Linguist 13:01, 21 January 2014 (UTC).

La nuit des temps
I've approved your submission, regarding the iSBN, IMHO you should use the one on bc as the one on copyright page is visibly a mistake (it seems to belong to a Jean M. Auel book). Hauck 17:42, 21 January 2014 (UTC).
 * OK, thanks. Linguist 20:00, 21 January 2014 (UTC).

Le Docteur Lerne: sous-dieu
I have your submission to add a publication with this title to the database. Unfortunately, you used the wrong function to add the publication record. No worries, because this happens often with new editors. If a title already exists in the database, you should click on it and then use the "Add Publication to This Title" function. You used the "Add New Novel" function which creates both a publication record and a title record. I'm going to accept your submission and then merge the new title with the existing one. A question: the one currently in the database has a comma between the title and subtitle. Is that present on the title page of your book? If not, I'll change the titles to use the colon, which doesn't have to be stated in the publication. This is standard method of indicating a separation of the main title and the subtitle, which is seen on the title page as a change in size or font. Thanks. Mhhutchins 22:13, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

If you have an adventurous nature (as a reader of SF, you must), try this guide in determining which function to use when adding records to the database. It's not official, but something I wrote which I thought may be of some use. Mhhutchins 22:15, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm the one who gave the counsel to use the "Add Title" as the editor's data here seemed to indicate a variant title (with and without comma). Hauck 06:04, 22 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Since we don't have a publication in the database that actually uses the comma, I suspect that it's incorrect, and that the verified publication's title would be the canonical one. I'm going to merge the two, keeping the colon title. If a publication with the comma comes along, we can then create a variant title. Thanks. Mhhutchins 06:18, 22 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Hello, and thank you both for your help. As I explained earlier to Hauck, I had first tried “Add Publication”, with no option for another title, and “Add a Variant Title”, which left no option for the publisher, etc. I was puzzled, not to say mystified. Ars longa, vita brevis ! Linguist 09:12, 22 January 2014 (UTC).

Jonathan à perte de temps
I'm holding a submission to change the page count field of this record. It is ISFDB policy to notify the primary verifiers of publication records before making submissions that change substantial data. Also, if you're adding unnumbered pages to a publication record, you should provide a note that explains what is contained on those pages and why you chose to record them in the record. If the pages don't have any significant text, or are advertising, we don't include them in the page count field. Is it the uncredited essay which appears on unnumbered pages?

Once you've discussed this publication with the primary verifier, I'll approve the submission or you can cancel it. Thanks. Mhhutchins 20:42, 24 January 2014 (UTC)


 * I noticed that you have left a message on Hauck's page concerning the "complemented page count" of several records. Again, discussing such changes before making submissions would have been the appropriate action. What are on these "complementary" pages? Mhhutchins 20:46, 24 January 2014 (UTC)


 * OK. The unnumbered pages contain indeed the essay as well as the table of contents, lists of books and some advertising. Linguist 20:52, 24 January 2014 (UTC).
 * I never thought adding those unnumbered pages could be something that had to be discussed, basing myself on the cursory remark : « Likewise, you may record the count of unnumbered pages at the end of a publication. For example, [6]+320+[4]. » mentioned here. Linguist 20:59, 24 January 2014 (UTC).


 * If any primary verified record has an error, you must still discuss it with the verifying editor (if they are active, if not on the Moderator page) before making a submission to correct the error. In this case, these are not errors: we don't include table of contents, advertising, etc. in the page count field. The instructions you've linked to refer to adding the number of pages at the end of a book when there is substantial text on pages which are not numbered. Quite often the last page may be unnumbered, or there are excerpts from other works on unnumbered pages. In these cases, we add the number of pages in brackets to the end of the page count. Perhaps the instructions aren't clear and should be further explained. Thanks for bringing it to our attention. Mhhutchins 21:06, 24 January 2014 (UTC)


 * OK, I understand perfectly. By the way, saying « Perhaps the instructions aren't clear and should be further explained » is a massive understatement : nothing indeed is said about the contents nor the relevance of unnumbered pages at the end of a book in the page I mentioned ! Anyway, I'll be more circumspect in the future (though it tends to slow you down considerably !). Linguist 21:21, 24 January 2014 (UTC).


 * You have the option now to either cancel the submission, or discuss with Hauck whether the 14 unnumbered pages are substantial enough to include in the page count field. Thanks. Mhhutchins 18:29, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Journey Into Space
Can you check to see if there is a price printed anywhere on this publication? According to Tuck's encyclopedia, the price is 2 shillings (entered into ISFDB records as "2/-".) Thanks for looking. Mhhutchins 19:46, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

I found an image of the cover that shows the price. Perhaps your copy is a later printing. Is there a stated date of publication? Mhhutchins 19:56, 25 January 2014 (UTC)


 * No indication of price anywhere, inside or out. The closest thing I got to was a list of Pan books at the end (but no SF), priced at either 2/- or 2/6. I read on p. 4 : “First published 1954 […]. This edition published 1958 by Pan books Ltd. […]”. In the Pan book list, the first two are dated March 1958, none of the others are dated. That's all I can do ! Linguist 20:39, 25 January 2014 (UTC).


 * Perhaps it was printed for the overseas market, probably for continental Europe. Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 21:04, 25 January 2014 (UTC)


 * For the record, I bought that copy (second hand, of course) in New Zealand; but nothing on or in the book indicates any particular geographical destination. And speaking of travels, I'm off to Florence to-morrow, so I'll be unproductive for the coming week. Linguist 21:40, 25 January 2014 (UTC).


 * Have a great trip. I had a wonderful time in Florence back in 2012. Hope you do as well. Mhhutchins 00:22, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Suragne titles
Hello, I've approved your creation of two Suragne Angoisse titles see here, you should now create the variant titles under the pelot name in order to "transfer" them into pelot's page there. Hauck 20:04, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
 * OK, I'll try and do that. Linguist 20:13, 5 February 2014 (UTC).

Capitals
It seems that we regularize the capitals (except for deliberate typographic effects, see here, so IMHO this rule (to conform to the french "official" usage) should apply to all french titles regardless of the typographer's vagaries. Hauck 17:07, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
 * OK. I had left them just in case. I'll know for next time ! Thanks. Linguist 17:15, 6 February 2014 (UTC).

Pardonnez-nous vos enfances
Hello, I'm approving your submissions as they come for this anthology, I was wondering about some of the dates given that are earlier than the publication date itself, particularly the préface (note that, as the title needs not to be disambiguated, the (Pardonnez-nous vos enfances) part is not necessary), can you explain the discrepancies ? Hauck 14:11, 7 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Actually, I was hesitating about which date to chose. The earlier dates are those that appear at the end of the texts, above the signature. But I probably should have stuck to the general publication date. I'll also correct the bit about the preface. Linguist 14:34, 7 February 2014 (UTC).
 * You're right, the publication date trumps the writing date. Hauck 14:44, 7 February 2014 (UTC)