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Andrei Zakizjanov

I am pretty sure that our Andrei Zakizjanov is actually Andrey Zakirzyanov/Андрей Закирзянов (see the missing "r" in the last name in our record - the y/i change is due to different transliteration)?). The only 3 sites that list this artist with our name are ISFDB, Locus and Galactic Central (here is the search) and this feels like a loopback repetition from a single wrong record. The big question is if it was spelled this way in the publication (it is very possible) or it is a mistake created during the cataloging. Does anyone have any way to check the magazine (Visions, Fall 1991) by any chance? If not, I will leave it as is (maybe it was a typo in the magazine) but will add the rest of the information above in the record... Thanks in advance.Annie 16:34, 4 June 2018 (EDT)

I sent him an eMail with a query about. Will see if he answeres. --Zapp 07:55, 22 July 2018 (EDT)
Андрей Закирзянов answered very quickly. He wrote:
"Hi. Yes it is mine work, something from this series Don't remember which one though." So his identity is for shure. --Zapp 09:39, 22 July 2018 (EDT)

La roue du temps

Since user Hauck is no longer active, I post my question here. Curiously Bibliotheque nationale de France, OCLC/WorldCat and enlist different ISBN as of 978-2-266-19153-1 for this pub of 2008, but not the verified one. The verified ISBN is only to find at for the same pub of 2005. Neither BNF nor OCLC enlist a printing of 2005. I put a note there or did I wrong? --Zapp 15:46, 18 July 2018 (EDT)

OK, which one exactly are you asking about and what exactly do you need verified? The ISBN? Because I cannot see a 2005 printing in our listing and I am lost at what exactly the problem is here? Annie 15:58, 18 July 2018 (EDT)
Hauck verified that 2008 pub with an ISBN that is not enlisted in OCLC, BNF, Amazon and Abebooks for a printing of 2008. All of them enlist a different ISBN for the 2008 printing. Only Amazon enlists Hauck's ISBN for a 2005 printing. But the others haven't enlisted Hauck's ISBN and no 2005 printing anyhow. I wonder if there is something wrong or curious? --Zapp 01:47, 19 July 2018 (EDT)

Armageddon Outta Here (2nd edition)

The record for the second edition of Derek Landy's collection Armageddon Outta Here, which has different contents from the first edition, has a note indicating that the table of contents shown in Amazon Look Inside may not be correct: "The contents page mistakenly includes several headings and an excerpt, that are not in the book." However, whoever wrote that note didn't add contents to the record. Can anyone get hold of this edition and see what's in it? --Vasha (cazadora de tildes) 19:35, 26 July 2018 (EDT)

James Warner in Interzone #276

Would someone with access to the most recent issue of Interzone (#276, July-August 2018) please check the bio for the James Warner who wrote "P.Q." and make sure he is the same person as the author of the other stories in the DB: this guy, born in England and now living in San Francisco where he's active with literary groups. (Also, please add the reviews to the record for this issue). --Vasha (cazadora de tildes) 23:27, 26 July 2018 (EDT)

Same one - his site and his only novel ("All Her Father's Guns") are mentioned specifically. Annie 15:29, 29 July 2018 (EDT)

Conversation with a Bug by Jack Sharkey

Can someone that owes a book with this story check their book and look at that story. I am looking for the source of a Bulgarian translation which is most likely this story but I cannot find a summary or any notes on what the story is about anywhere so asking here instead. If there is a wasp (which is actually some kind of a ghost?) caught into a spider's net and the bugs are talking. Can someone confirm? Thanks in advance! Annie 14:36, 22 August 2018 (EDT)

I don't have this story in my collection and I can't find its text online, but a Russian translation is available here. Fantlab confirms that the original title was "Conversation with a Bug" and that it was first published in the October 1961 issue of Playboy. Ahasuerus 15:17, 22 August 2018 (EDT)
I officially need more coffee - I did not think to switch to Russian (no clue why). Thanks a lot! Annie 15:20, 22 August 2018 (EDT)

L'ultima riga delle favole

Is there anyone that's sufficiently proficient in Italian to confirm whether L'ultima riga delle favole contains sufficient spec fic elements for adding to the DB? Thanks! MagicUnk 16:10, 6 September 2018 (EDT)

Andre Norton's Forerunners Universe: Timeline and recommended reading order

After my initial questions on the subject here on this website, I started reading (again) through all of Norton's Space Age books, this time specifically to find whatever time and event references she had hidden away in the stories. This is the result of that venture.

My personal research showed that (some of) the comments I quoted from the Amazon page (see previous post #32 on the subject) were written by someone who did not read the books (very thoroughly), as they place some books in locations that are not mentioned in the books.

My research also showed that the sequence of the F-U titles on Maureen O’Brien’s 'multiverse' timeline on is confusing and retains major inconsistencies.

My timeline removes all the major inconsistencies and ties the 57 stories stories into a logical sequence that even allows a neat graphic representation.

I hope this presentation may lead to the acceptance that Andre Norton - like several other SF-authors - wrote a substantial 'Future History' collection, which deserves to be acknowledged as Andre Norton's Forerunners Universe.

See Andre Norton's Forerunners Universe: Timeline and recommended reading order for more detailed information. Follow the links in this text to see the complete pages.

Forerunners Universe

Timeline image INTRODUCTION 1. The Forerunners Universe.

Andre Norton wrote 70 Space Age stories during 5+ decades. Forty-five of those have "Forerunners" as a recurrent background theme.

In analogy to Norton’s ‘Witch World Universe,’ it seems logical to bring all these books together in a ‘Forerunners Universe’. (F-U) Yet, apparently this has not happened to date. Neither ISFDB nor Goodreads acknowledge the Forerunners Universe and their listings show many of the F-U stories as stand-alone novels. There are several reasons for that:

a. The Forerunners theme is a very loose connection. There is no over-arching story line that ties it all together in a larger mega-saga as in Isaac Asimov's Foundation Arc. In that regard, Norton's Forerunners Universe is more like Jack Vance's Gaean Reach or Ursula K. Le Guin's Hainish cycle, which were also notoriously difficult to catalogue until the authors stated that those stories belonged together.

b. Andre Norton never made such statement about her F-U stories. She never published a timeline and the documents in her estate don't have any information on that subject either. Apparently, this was not an issue of great importance to her. She was a writer of shorter pulp-fiction-style stories, not sweeping sagas. She wrote fast-paced adventure stories, many of which had recurrent background elements, but she didn’t worry overly much about being 100% consistent between all those separate stories.

c. While there are many common themes in the F-U stories, there are also quite a few inconsistencies and even some glaring conflicts between the various stories. Andre Norton never resorted to fix-up novels to tie her earlier stories together and 'fix' these problems. Understandably, the inconsistencies have led to disagreements about which books belong and which don’t. They also are why imposing a chronology on these stories is so difficult. (See Appendix B for details) .../...

We would do well to remind ourselves that Andre Norton was a storyteller, not a historian. Accepting that — with all the inconsistencies that come with it — was the first step I needed to take on the road to creating some order in the chaos of this Universe.

II. Time Line + Recommended Reading Order

This is in part a thematic reading order. It closely follows the main divisions of the timeline, but within those divisions titles are ordered by common themes rather than absolute chronology.

III. Story Review

This page lists all the stories and sub-series in the chronological / thematic order as described above, with a brief synopsis of each story and some comments tying it all together in the greater 'historical' context.

In order to avoid interruptions in the story review, the inconsistencies and conflicts have been gathered on THIS PAGE, while the next page provides a detailed explanation of how I created the timeline so you can see I did my homework on this. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by SF&F-fan (talkcontribs) . 10:53, 21 October 2018

Given the complexities involved, perhaps the low-hanging fruit in this case would to add an Author Note to Norton's record. It could briefly explain that different researchers have come up with somewhat different interpretations of how Norton's series overlap and then link to the relevant third party Web pages/lists. Ahasuerus 17:51, 26 October 2018 (EDT)

Analog, May/June 2018

Could someone who has a copy of this year's May/June Analog please check the story "My Base Pair" on page 101; it is categorized "short story" in the magazine, however Rocket Stack Rank says this is erroneous and it is actually 9,493 words long. The length should be confirmed, corrected, and noted in the database. --Vasha (cazadora de tildes) 11:26, 6 November 2018 (EST)

Flowers for Algernon, edition clarification

Flowers for Algernon, edition clarification

The cover on my copy doesn't have a price and it has the text "BANTAM BOOKS/SPECIAL EDITION"

How would others interpret the printing date for this version based on this copyright page. Image:IMG20181117.jpg (I believe I have made this link public, sorry if I got it wrong)

Would it be the 2nd Bantam Edition with a publishing date of October 1967? or was the 1st Bantam edition published October 1967 and this is the 2nd printing?

I found a list in another edition that had these dates but I don't know where they came from:

Harcourt edition March 1966. 2nd printing April 1966. Bantam edition published October 1967. 2nd printing Nov 1967, 3rd printing Feb 1968, 4th printing Oct 1968, 5th printing Oct 1968,

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dan.henne‎ (talkcontribs) .

Based on that scan of the copyright page, your copy is the second printing of the Bantam edition. In the past, it was common not to state the printing date on the copyright page. However, some later printing could list all of the previous printings and their dates. That's where the list that you quoted presumably originally came from. Barring typos, these types of lists are quite reliable, so it's safe to assume that your copy was published in November 1967. Considering the book's popularity, it's not surprising that the second printing came out within a few weeks of the first one.
Re: "edition" vs. "printing" and "first edition" vs. "second edition", it can get complicated. The short version is that an "edition" is a book version done by a publisher. An edition can have multiple printings. In this case I see the following English language editions:
  • Cassell & Company published a hardcover edition for the UK market
  • Harcourt, Brace & World published another hardcover edition for the US market
  • Pan Books published a mass market paperback edition for the UK market
  • Bantam Books published a mass market paperback edition for the US market
Each edition could have multiple printings. Ahasuerus 15:57, 24 November 2018 (EST)

Allan Quatermain by H. Rider Haggard

I have an undated copy of Allan Quatermain published by A. L. Burt, probably around the 30's that has two parts - Allan Quatermain (...) goes to page 226, and is followed by The Two Captains (over) A Narrative on pages 95 to 147. No pages missing from the book. I can't find any mention of anything called "The Two Captains" as being by HRH. Anyone have any idea what it is or what it's from? ../Doug H 09:02, 6 December 2018 (EST)

Answered my own question by searching for character names. Seems that The Two Captains was actually written by Baron Friedrich de La Motte Fouqué although no credit is given in the book. ../Doug H 11:55, 6 December 2018 (EST)

Twenty and Three Stories, Thornton Butterworth edition

I have verified the Appleton edition (US) of Twenty and Three Stories by Twenty and Three Authors. The Thornton Butterworth edition (UK) was entered by somebody else (Bluesman, on the basis of Tuck? anyway, probably not from a primary source). I notice that there are some differences between the records -- not just the different order of stories, but also differences in credits, for example "Lemuel De Bra" versus "L. De Bra," "Robert S. Hichens" versus "Robert Hichens," "Arthur Conan Doyle" versus "A. Conan Doyle." Furthermore, although Doyle's story appears as "Captain Sharkey" in the table of contents, it is "How the Governor of Saint Kitt's Came Home" at the head of the story. I hope someone can get hold of a copy of the Thornton Butterworth edition and carefully check the titles and authors. --Vasha (cazadora de tildes) 22:29, 4 January 2019 (EST)

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