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Hello, Dcarson, and welcome to the ISFDB Wiki! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out the community portal, or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome! Ahasuerus 00:39, 1 Jan 2007 (CST)


My Collection

In case anyone wants me to verify a physical book a listing of my collection is at

I'm also willing to check if the BSFS library has something that needs verification. They have title, author, type of book and year so you can get a good idea if it's the version that needs checking.

I have Anne Inez McCaffrey 40 Years of Publishing An International Bibliography if someone needs me to check something in it.

Edison's Conquest of Mars

Dcarson, I saw your publication update for Edison's Conquest of Mars but had to think for a while on how to best deal with it. Please keep in mind that a goal of ISFDB is to be able to construct/display bibliographies and other reports from the information in publication and title records.

The issues I saw were:

  • Things like an introduction, foreward, afterward, etc. should be titled “Foreward (Edison's Conquest of Mars)” for example so that someone looking at Robert Godwin’s bibliography for will know what books an introduction, forward and afterward were for.
  • Listing artwork as “untitled” by “uncredited” may be useful in the context of the publication itself but does not add to the bibliography for anyone other than “uncredited.”
  • Template:TitleFields:Title says “Interior art should have the same title as the fiction or essay it is associated with.” You seemed to have titled much of the artwork using the captions or the word “uncredited.”
  • Please read the INTERIORART section of Template:TitleFields:EntryType. In summary, had the artist been known I believe one INTERIORART contents entry (without a a page number) would have been sufficient.

What I did was I took the list of interior illustrations you had entered and put it into the publication’s “notes” field. Marc Kupper 19:00, 8 Jan 2007 (CST)

The Universes of E. E. Smith

Hi hi! Thanks for submitting the details of the Evans/Ellik Concordance! I have made two changes to the submission. The first one was adding HTML line breaks to the Notes field since the software currently doesn't display regular carriage returns well.

The second change was more interesting. I changed the "type" of the Concordance entry from "NONFICTION" to "ESSAY". The reason was that all NONFICTION records are displayed in their authors' Summary Bibliography pages in the NONFICTION section. Thus, if we left the Concordance as it was submitted, there would be two NONFICTION records displayed in Ellik's and Evans' bibliographies, one for The Universes of E. E. Smith and one for Concordance to the Lensman Novels of E. E. Smith. I am not 100% sure if that's how we want to handle this case since, after all, the Concordance is a book length piece. If you think that it would be better to have them both listed, please post on the Community Portal and we can discuss what to do about this interesting case there. Thanks! Ahasuerus 00:30, 10 Jan 2007 (CST)

Steve Jackson (UK)

Hello again! Re: your proposed change to the "Steve Jackson" record, please keep in mind that we have 3 separate records with this Author name: "Steve Jackson", "Steve Jackson (UK)" and "Steve Jackson (US)". If we can establish that the plain vanilla "Steve Jackson" is the same person as "Steve Jackson (UK)", then we will will want to do a merge on these two author records. You can do it by running Advanced Search, selecting the second section from the top ("ISFDB Author Search Form") and then merging two of the displayed records. On the other hand, if we were to just change "Steve Jackson" to "Steve Jackson (UK)", then we would end up with two Author records with identical names and that would cause significant software problems. Also, please keep in mind that the "Legal Name" field should be populated using the "Lastname, Firstname" format. That way we can distiguish middle names from composite last names.

Here is the data that you submitted so that wouldn't be lost:

Thanks! Ahasuerus 01:39, 13 Jan 2007 (CST)

I see that you have submitted a proposed merge of "Steve Jackson" and "Steve Jackson (US)". Reviewing the two respective bibliographies, it looks like the one under "Steve Jackson" may be a work in progress. I note that many Titles do not have Publications associated with them; didn't you delete these Publications as RPG source books a few days ago? If you did, you may want to delete these Titles first before having the two Author records merged. Once the Titles are deleted, it will be easier to see what it is that we are actually merging.

Keep in mind that deleting the last Publication (i.e. edition) for a Title doesn't automatically delete that Title. It's a bit of a pain since it forces editors to submit a Publication Deletion request, wait for the approval and then submit a Title Deletion request, but that's the current compromise between data quality and convenience. Thanks! Ahasuerus 01:09, 17 Jan 2007 (CST)

Ace Double reverse cover images

Hi; I saw you'd entered the reverse cover image for this publication. I changed it so it works as a link; you can see what I did if you edit the notes. Hope that's useful. Mike Christie (talk) 19:08, 14 Jan 2007 (CST)

Minor heads up on price

I just saw a couple of publication's with prices stated as "$.40". I updated these to have "$0.40". --Marc Kupper 02:37, 30 Jan 2007 (CST)

Anne Inez McCaffrey

Hi -- re your submission of the Anne Inez McCaffrey bibliography, it looks to me as if the book would more naturally be NONFICTION with an Afterword by McCaffrey, rather than having all the sections done as individual essays. That's to say, those sections look more like chapters than independent essays, as if this were a COLLECTION. Is there some reason to track these as ESSAYs? Mike Christie (talk) 09:18, 30 Jan 2007 (CST)

Just excessive caution on my part. If I tell you the info you can discard it but if I don't tell you you don't know. The fact that it includes things like unpublished and merchandise is worth noting at least I think. Dana Carson 14:47, 30 Jan 2007 (CST)
Should I edit it down to just the book entry and a comment in the notes? Dana Carson 22:35, 30 Jan 2007 (CST)
Yes, I think that's the best solution. I'll go ahead and reject the current sub -- thanks. Mike Christie (talk) 04:43, 31 Jan 2007 (CST)


Hi -- I just posted a note on the community portal about those GURPS books -- I'm pretty sure I've seen GURPS books being deleted in the past, so I asked about it. I know these are specific to sf worlds, so they might qualify, but I think gaming books have historically not been included. I've held the subs till we get an answer. Thanks -- Mike Christie (talk)

Related to this is I'm approving the deletes but as I did it I was wondering if you are keeping track of the authors as usually when you follow the co-author threads you'll find that they write mostly non-genre. I guess you are not deleting the title records yet meaning the RPG authors can still be chased down.
Here's an idea - use the new tags thing to tag titles something like xRPG and then when you are ready to whack the titles we'll just hunt down the xRPG and also follow the author trails. Marc Kupper (talk) 01:45, 10 Feb 2007 (CST)

To Do

  • Figure out Dream Makers, are they variant titles or what. The 1987 one seems like it might have all the interviews from the 2 earlier ones.
  • Enter contents of Inside Outer Space
  • add Gurps sourcebooks that are by known authors
  • finish up Groucho Marx books
    • buy the last book so I can enter primary data
  • enter Baen CDs
  • enter the Serviss, Garrett Putman stuff from secondary sources that Gutenberg lists that ISFDB doesn't
  • add more of John Blaine's Rick Brant books
  • add publication data for Tom Swift Jr.s
    • books all entered, start on real author names
  • should Tom Swift Young Inventor series be under Tom Swift?
  • get last Dig Allen book, finish my set and ISFDB data for it
  • separate story Beyond the Farthest Star and fixup novel with it and Tangor Returns
  • add Christine Morgan from and
  • add Doc Savages
    • enter the ones I have
    • enter rest from Bantam Doc list
    • verify the ones I own
  • add the Asimov science collections that I have
  • According to the Locus list of Awards (, she edited the anthology, but I can't find any evidence of her involvement elsewhere. Can we send her an e-mail and ask? Ahasuerus 15:01, 21 May 2007 (CDT)
    • OK. I'll do that. Thanks. Dana Carson 16:58, 21 May 2007 (CDT)
  • add Elizabeth Peters "Amelia Peabody" mysteries since they have some fantastic elements and at least one is already in.
  • John Creasey had at least two series that are SF/thriller. Dept. Z and Dr. Palfrey. Only a couple are listed. Add the rest from secondary sources?
  • add Wold Newton books or update with contents from WOLD NEWTON UNIVERSE Recent & Upcoming Books and Black Coat Press
  • Check and enter Grantville Gazettes. Note: Numbered and Roman Numbered are different. For the first few the online only and printed (with ebook edition) had different Preface and the printed version had one extra story. With 5 the printed ones are best of from several online only editions.

Pirate Tarzan

Go to the UMBC special collection and get the info for the unauthorized Tarzans that were mostly destroyed when the publisher was sued.

Are we talking about the 5 Tarzan books by "Barton Werper" (aka Peter T. Scott and Peg O'Neill Scott)? I think I have them all:
  • Tarzan and the Silver Globe (1964)
  • Tarzan and the Cave City (1964)
  • Tarzan and the Snake People (1964)
  • Tarzan and the Abominable Snowman (1965)
  • Tarzan and the Winged Invader (1965)
I can enter/verify them the next time I have access to my collection, which should be some time around March 30. Ahasuerus 14:25, 27 Feb 2007 (CST)
Not sure of the details. I just happened to remember from when I went to UMBC that they had copies of some that most copies were destroyed since they were not authorized. Going to the special collection and putting in the more unusual stuff would be a useful project at some point.
Yup, that sounds like the "Barton Werper" books all right. There was a bit of a dustup over it at the time. And looking up uncommon titles in the UBMC's special collection certainly sounds like a worthy project! Ahasuerus 19:34, 27 Feb 2007 (CST)

What is the right pub type for a ebook short story?

I would use NOVEL or CHAPBOOK (called CHAPTERBOOK in ISFDB) for the pub-type type and "www" for the binding as the Project Gutenberg works are not really "eBook"s. Marc Kupper (talk) 18:40, 4 Mar 2007 (CST)

Christine Morgan author update

I'm approving this one, but please change the legal name to "Morgan, Christine", since that field always wants LastName, FirstName format, according to the Author Data help screen. (Scott Latham 17:24, 7 Mar 2007 (CST))

...and the reason that we want to capture "Lastname, Firstname" is that some folks have names like "Patrick Nielsen Hayden" where you can't readily tell whether the last name is "Hayden" or "Nielsen Hayden" :) Ahasuerus 18:08, 7 Mar 2007 (CST)
OK, done. Dana Carson 18:33, 7 Mar 2007 (CST)

Seven Conquests

Just a quick FYI that Baen books are occasionally listed by and others as by Pocket because of the way Baen's distribution works. It's usually safe to replace them with Baen-specific records, which is what I have done in this case: ) Ahasuerus 12:04, 12 Mar 2007 (CDT)

Peter F. Hamilton

You were quite right about the Neutronium Alchemist looking wrong. Hamilton's biblio was messed up and I had to rearrange things, hopefully for the better :) Ahasuerus 00:58, 13 Mar 2007 (CDT)

Devil's Point

Just curious why you decided to capitalize the name of this series? Is there an indication that it should be in all capitals? I don't see anything about it in Locus and I can't check my collection at the moment... Ahasuerus 01:24, 13 Mar 2007 (CDT)

I see you've changed it - thanks! :) Ahasuerus 01:49, 13 Mar 2007 (CDT)
I'd just cut and pasted from the author's website. Didn't actually look at it until I was entering another book in the series. User:Dcarson
No worries! Thanks for the correction :) Ahasuerus 01:25, 15 Mar 2007 (CDT)

John Dalmas - The Puppet Master

I see that you are trying to merge The Puppet Master the novel and The Puppet Master the collection. Wouldn't they be two different animals, though? Currently, the Collection Publication record points to the Collection Title record, the Novel Title record and a few short fiction Titles. That's how we typically handle books that include an eponymous novel plus some short fiction -- not perfect, but it seems to work :) Ahasuerus 01:25, 15 Mar 2007 (CDT)

Yeah, I must have gotten confused. Please kill it. Thanks. Dana Carson 02:22, 15 Mar 2007 (CDT)
Dead and buried :) Ahasuerus 09:32, 15 Mar 2007 (CDT)

Law of Survival

I have approved this Publication, but I was wondering if:

(a) David G. Hartwell's "Year's Best Fantasy (Excerpt)" was a short fiction fiction piece or an essay (b) "Sky of Swords: A Tale of the King'd Blades (Excerpt)" was spelled with a "'d" or a "'s" (c) the comma in "Juliet E, McKenna"'s name should be a period.

Ahasuerus 15:40, 16 Mar 2007 (CDT)

Allergy meds, gotta love them. Yep all those needed changing. Fixed. Dana Carson 18:24, 16 Mar 2007 (CDT)

The Girl Who Heard Dragons

I have approved The Girl Who Heard Dragons, but I was wondering if "The Greatest Love" (pp. 187-255) was really a short story or a novells as its page count would seem to suggest? Ahasuerus 23:23, 18 Mar 2007 (CDT)

Must have selected the wrong entry. Yes it is as long as it looks. I'll submit an update. Dana Carson 04:15, 19 Mar 2007 (CDT)

The Amazing Maurice and His Educated Rodents, Pratchett

I'm approving your update, but please edit it to use "hc" for hardcover, rather than "hb" for hardback. (Scott Latham 16:04, 22 Mar 2007 (CDT))

Lancelot Biggs

There is a collection and a novel. The novel is an obvious fixup, the events look like they are the stories listed as the contents of the collection. How to record it so it doesn't have the Type Mismatch (Pub=NOVEL, should be COLLECTION): The Remarkable Exploits of Lancelot Biggs: Spaceman error but still shows the connection.

Email Wildside and check if it has all the stories from the collection?

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dcarson (talkcontribs) . 00:17, 3 Apr 2007

The Novel version would be a different title to use the ISFDB's terminology. From 39539 you would do "Unmerge Titles" of The Remarkable Exploits of Lancelot Biggs: Spaceman. ISFDB will give you a new title record named, I believe, The Remarkable Exploits of Lancelot Biggs: Spaceman of type novel. If it doesn't then you can always edit the new title record plus should add a title note explaining that it seems to be a fixup. Something you may want to mention in the notes is if the publication discloses the underlying story titles at all. Are there chapter names or any other indication of what the stories may be? I'm guessing that's not the case if you need to ask Wildside. It sounds like a project for someone with copies of both the collection and the novel to compare the two and to document what the differences are. Marc Kupper (talk) 12:40, 3 Apr 2007 (CDT)
I am not sure if we are talking about the same thing here, folks. The original 1950 book was a collection of related stories that had been previously (1939-1943) published in various magazines. The ca. 2000 Wildside edition (I can't find the exact year online) has the same page count as the 1950 edition, so it's likely identical. Whether a collection of related stories (without a significant rewrite) is technically a fixup is not an easy question to answer, but I tend to enter them as a collections because that way we preserve Contents level data.
However, it sounds like Dana was asking about a way to eliminate the "mismatch" warning on the Title page, which can be done by changing the Publication type of the Wildside edition from NOVEL to COLLECTION. Ahasuerus 15:12, 3 Apr 2007 (CDT)
I think it's likely identical also. But it has no table of contents and no chapter headings. The only divisions in the book are numbered chapters. From the titles of the stories in the 1950 book what I've read seems to match. The copyrights are correct also, one for 1950 and a series of dates that match the story dates. But the only reason the text would make you think series of stories is how episodic it is. If the 1950 entry had page numbers it would be interesting to see if breakpoints matched and if the chapters at those points seemed to fit the titles. Dana Carson 21:18, 3 Apr 2007 (CDT)
I have the 1950 edition in my collection, so I can post the page numbers and the first/last sentences of each story when I am back in town. April 28 looks likely at the moment, but it's probably easier to post a request on the Verification requests page. Ahasuerus 21:32, 3 Apr 2007 (CDT)
I have checked what I thought was my first edition, but after consulting Tuck it looks like I have Doubleday's el cheapo 1951 "Young Moderns Science Fiction" hardcover reprint. Here is what I found.
First, the full title on the title page is The Remarkable Exploits of Lancelot Biggs: Spaceman, although it appears as just Lancelot Biggs: Spaceman on the spine and on two separate pages before and after the title page. The Library of Congress Online Catalog and OCLC Fiction Finder show the long form of the title as the primary title and the short form as an alternate title, so I assume that the 1950 first edition used the same long title.
Second, there are no chapter headings in the book, just 27 chapter numbers. Contento lists the original Lancelot Biggs stories as the book's contents, but Tuck mentions that all but 2 stories had been rewritten for book publication.
Third, Contento lists 14 stories, including one "Lancelot Biggs"/"Horse-Sense Hank" crossover, but Tuck states that only 13 stories were used. The Nelson S. Bond site lists 14 stories as well, but I am not sure whether they used primary sources or Contento. I think I have over 50% of the pulp issues that the original stories were published in (I have very few Weird Tales), so in theory I could identify which chapter was based on which story. However, finding the right pulps in the rather messy pulp section of my collection would not be easy and I don't have enough time to do this project justice at the moment. I suspect that Bill Contento used Tuck as the source, so perhaps we could check with him. We could also send an e-mail to "", the maintainer of the Bond site, and see if they have a way to cross reference the stories and the collection.
For now, I think it's safe to assume that the 1951 "Young Moderns Science Fiction" reprint and the ca. 2000 Wildside reprint were just clones of the 1950 first edition. We can then zap the variant title in the ISFDB. The rest remains shrouded in mystery... Ahasuerus 22:44, 28 Apr 2007 (CDT)

Alan E. Nourse and Doctor X

The vt was set up to point in the opposite direction, so I deleted it and created a new one. Take a look when you get a chance :) Ahasuerus 03:18, 14 Apr 2007 (CDT)

Yeah, the traditional first pseudonym screwup. Thanks. I did the record from the fact that the book was published by Doctor X and it was quite a while before the real name came out. Some of the things he said about how internships ar run might have led to him not finishing his. Dana Carson 05:01, 14 Apr 2007 (CDT)

Fix Stith mistake

Cleanup where I cloned the wrong title for Stith

Done :) Ahasuerus 00:15, 17 Apr 2007 (CDT)
Thanks. Dana Carson 00:35, 17 Apr 2007 (CDT)

Myth-Taken Identity

I approved your update for MYTHTKNDNT2004 but the thing that caught my eye was the price change where you changed it from $14.00 to $14.95. Do you think an edition could have existed at $14.00? 1592220304 has a Look Inside that seems to be a hardcover (it has front/end flaps with the same ISBN and is priced at $25.95 (US) but the same Look Inside has a copyright page that says.

  • Hard Cover 1-59222-029-0
  • Soft Cover 1-59222-030-4
  • First MM Publishing Edition September 2004
  • Printed in the USA 0 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1

Is your copy a first printing with a "9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1" number line? Does your tp edition have front/end flaps? Marc Kupper (talk) 23:09, 20 Apr 2007 (CDT)

First Edition trade, no end flaps. Number line goes
Printed in the United States of America 
0 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1
with both ISBNs and First publication date like the hardcover. Maybe $14 was the initial idea for price and it went up by actual printing? The previous one was $14 even. Dana Carson 03:00, 21 Apr 2007 (CDT)
Thank you - that makes sense. It is common for the publisher to announce a book and later to release it at a different (and usually always higher) price. I added a publication note about the $14 price and your number line as it's possible review copies were sent out with the $14.00 price and we don't want someone to just overwrite your $14.95 price. Marc Kupper (talk) 01:18, 7 May 2007 (CDT)

Anvil, Strangers to Paradise

In the notes, you ask about the relationship of Belmont Books to Tower Books: although they began as separate companies, by the mid-'70's they were combined and interchangeable. Although I worked for them for several years, I never did discover the logic they used for branding - sometimes Belmont, sometimes Tower, sometimes Belmont/Tower. It may have been pure whim... (Scott Latham 10:41, 24 Apr 2007 (CDT))

Clearly "Tower" should have been used on books that were supposed to sell better to men and "Belmont" on books that were supposed to sell better to women ;-) Ahasuerus 10:59, 24 Apr 2007 (CDT)

Asimov's essay "Welcome, Stranger!"

You submitted a variant title for a record which, after research, I've determined was incorrectly entered by the original editor. If you will merge the two records, preserving the title with the comma, I'll accept the submission and reject the variant title edit. Thanks! Mhhutchins 16:12, 8 May 2007 (CDT)

OK, done, thanks. Dana Carson 16:17, 8 May 2007 (CDT)
You're quite welcome. By the way, thanks for pointing out that the Asimov essay "Just Mooning Around" wasn't listed among those from his F&SF science column. Searching on Google I discovered that it was published in the May 1963 issue, but it was not recorded in that issue here on ISFDB. I've gone ahead and updated the issue, as well as combined it with the reprinting in Of Time and Space and Other Things. Mhhutchins 16:29, 8 May 2007 (CDT)
Prior to the ISFDB-1-to-ISFDB-2 conversion, our default magazine cataloging mode was to concentrate on fiction, with non-fiction pieces making infrequent appearances. Thus almost any magazine issue that hasn't been marked as Verified is automatically suspect when it comes to non-fiction. We have also been known to miss fiction pieces when cataloging magazines, but that's a whole different headache. Ahasuerus 16:36, 8 May 2007 (CDT)
When I did the F&SF Essay mega-update, I was pleasantly surprised how much WAS actually captured. Of course, there's no guarantee the Essay Series from other Magazines is as complete... My fingers have almost recovered from that now, I may do another soon. Or at least create the Skeleton series hierarchy. BLongley 13:46, 9 May 2007 (CDT)

Asimov's Understand Physics books

I am looking at the three Understand Physics submissions from the other day and I am not sure I understand what the Note fields ("publication date for first printing, data from third printing") are saying. It would appear that we would want to have two separate Publications for each one of these three Titles. There would be one Publication record for the first printing, which would have the Publication Date and not much else, and one Publication record for the third printing, which would have 0000-00-00 as the Publication Date and all the other data that you submitted. Is that what you had in mind, perchance? Thanks! Ahasuerus 06:25, 10 May 2007 (CDT)

I agree the notes might be a bit clearer. I would point out the discussion here where Marc and I would prefer that different printings of one edition were gathered together by first publication date, if that's all we have on the later printings. In this case, there seem to be 1988 and 1993 editions to separate, I don't know how many printings they went through. (There's also a 1900 edition, which shows why we shouldn't use Amazon as a reliable source at times!) Still, I doubt we're going to get a lot of versions of this pub here, it's not SF. And someone has to decide if it it's one book published in 3 parts or 3 books occasionally published as an omnibus.... Ah well, enough discontent and rebellion sown for now, I'll leave you two to it! ;-) BLongley 13:43, 10 May 2007 (CDT)
Should have made the note clearer. Yes, afterwards I should clone it and have 2 publications. One with the first printing date and one unknown. And I think that's first publication for that paperback edition, there was a hardback first it looks like. Dana Carson 20:46, 10 May 2007 (CDT)
Thanks, I have approved the submissions, have fun with them :) Ahasuerus 22:06, 10 May 2007 (CDT)
re "why we shouldn't use Amazon as a reliable source at times!" FWIW - I believe Amazon is accurate but it contains whatever the publisher or book seller was thinking they would do at the time they uploaded a record to Amazon. ISFDB then grabbed a copy of the record. Amazon is like your friendly credit reporting agency where if you complain they say they are just the messenger. Also, the publishers tend to upload the on-sale-by date and the number of physical pages in a book, and a title plus list of contributors that that believe will sell the book. None of these will correspond with what's in the book. :( Sometimes publishers even change their mind. In June DAW will be releasing a book they first announced for August-2001, changed to August-2006, changed to December-2007, and suddenly released for real today with a June-2007 date. That said, I have been documenting the "trail" of changes in ISFDB notes when I see them so that people will understand why there may be conflicting bits of data about a publication. Marc Kupper (talk) 01:04, 11 May 2007 (CDT)


You submitted a title update for 573097 but that record no longer exists? The proposed changes that got lost are

  • Title: Nevermore
  • Year: 2002-01-00
  • Storylen: ss
  • Authors: Ian R. MacLeod

Note that as the record to be updated is missing the old field values are unknown. Marc Kupper (talk) 00:53, 11 May 2007 (CDT)

When I merged it with the original title entry it was only marked as shortfiction. Was making it a shortstory. Dana Carson 17:14, 11 May 2007 (CDT)
Thank you, the current title record, 75737 looks ok and has ss. Marc Kupper (talk) 14:14, 20 May 2007 (CDT)

James White's Double Contact"

Hi, i see that you verified the hc version of this publication , my pb with the same cover lists the artists as John Harris and not Berkey. Could you give your book a second look. Thanks? :-)Kraang 21:29, 23 May 2007 (CDT)

The back flap of the dust jacket says
  • Jacket art by John Berkey
  • Jacket design by Carol Russo Design
nothing in the copyright page about the cover. Dana Carson 04:37, 24 May 2007 (CDT)
Interesting same cover two different artists. So who is the real artist? I'll enter a note in each about the conflict in artists names.Kraang 07:59, 24 May 2007 (CDT)

The Players of Null-A

Quick question: Is this edition a "tp" or a "pb"? Thanks! Ahasuerus 23:54, 1 Jun 2007 (CDT)

It should have been pb. Cloned it and didn't notice. Update submitted. Dana Carson 00:38, 2 Jun 2007 (CDT)
Approved, thanks! Ahasuerus 00:54, 2 Jun 2007 (CDT)

Demon of the Dark Ones

The image URL you submitted points to a blank, but you said it was the right cover. Were you looking at the Customer Image instead? BLongley 09:09, 2 Jun 2007 (CDT)

I was referring to the data, the one I cloned had the same ISBN as the book I'm looking at but had it as a trade etc. The image was already there and apparently not working. I noticed later that it had the wrong publisher, maybe they were distributed through Ace. I have some updates pending. Dana Carson 01:14, 3 Jun 2007 (CDT)
OK, your notes made me think that you were talking about the image rather than the pub. If I see that an Image link doesn't work, I see if I can find a replacement, otherwise I delete it - sure, it might start working eventually, but then there's no guarantee it will be for the same pub, and I don't want to be blamed for it! BLongley 16:52, 3 Jun 2007 (CDT)
It seems you have several submissions on hold, though I can't see any questions to you as to why. :-/ I presume the later ones are due to the publisher change, which would be fine by me if you entered the originals and want to correct them. Feel free to nudge the appropriate Mods into activity...
577933 	ON HOLD (JVjr) 	TitleUpdate 	2007-05-11 03:13:10 	Dcarson 	Aye, and Gomorrah
618577 	ON HOLD (Ahasuerus) 	PubUpdate 	2007-06-02 20:43:08 	Dcarson 	Demon of the Dark Ones
618581 	ON HOLD (Ahasuerus) 	PubUpdate 	2007-06-02 20:44:07 	Dcarson 	In the Shadow of Omizantrim
618585 	ON HOLD (Ahasuerus) 	PubUpdate 	2007-06-02 20:45:16 	Dcarson 	The Fallen Ones

BLongley 16:52, 3 Jun 2007 (CDT)

Sorry, I should have left Dana a message earlier, but I was trying to squeeze as many verifications in as possible while I still had access to my collection. I will run a couple of WorldCat searches to see if the "Ace" editions ever existed and then approve the submissions. Ahasuerus 22:56, 3 Jun 2007 (CDT)
The physical copiy I have say Playboy and is a first printing. When I entered them in the program I use (Bookpedia) and it checked Amazon it got Ace also. Dana Carson 01:23, 4 Jun 2007 (CDT)
Thanks, all submissions have been approved now. The catch was that we had a few erroneous "composite" Publications, which had data elements from both editions, but they are gone now. Could you please check if the Playboy edition of Volume 6 has 221 or 224 pages? Thanks! Ahasuerus 01:32, 5 Jun 2007 (CDT)
Last page with story is 221.Dana Carson 06:38, 5 Jun 2007 (CDT)

Titan - interiorart

I approved your update to pub 181541 but changed the title of the interior art credit from "illustrations" to "Titan" (the story title). Sometimes when it's a specific illustration, such as the frontispiece, I'll make the title something like "Titan (frontispiece)" and the title type is INTERIORART. I'll do the same if the role is something that's not straight illustration, for example, "Titan (photographer)". Marc Kupper (talk) 16:02, 3 Jun 2007 (CDT)

OK. There are several illustrations in the book(s) so I didn't give a page number or specific title. Dana Carson 17:05, 3 Jun 2007 (CDT)

Around the World in Eighty Days

I noticed you added publication 195821 under the title Le Tour du monde en quatre-vingts jours. These should go under the existing variant title 155531 which is Around the World in Eighty Days. I've often found the safest way to make sure a new publication gets filed under the right title is to pick up an existing title, check that the parent reference is correct (that it says Around the World in Eighty Days for example) and then to clone that. I went ahead with cleaning up Le Tour du monde en quatre-vingts jours to have both the Around the World in Eighty Days and Around the World in 80 Days publications filed under the correct title. Marc Kupper (talk) 16:43, 3 Jun 2007 (CDT)

Thanks. I was going to check if I should do that but didn't worry for that entry since if they should be filed per title it would need a cleanup pass anyway. You'll see another variant in the queue also. Dana Carson 17:07, 3 Jun 2007 (CDT)

Upgrading the Wiki

Answered on my Talk page. Ahasuerus 02:24, 17 Jun 2007 (CDT)

H. Irving Hancock

It would appear that you have submitted The Invasion of the United States or Uncle Sam’s Boys at the Capture of Boston twice. I approved the first submission and then entered the other three books in the series. I am not sure what to do with the second submission since it seems to be exactly the same as the first one. Could you please check the approved Publication and see if there is anything that needs to be changed and whether I should reject the duplicate submission? Thanks! Ahasuerus 22:03, 20 Jun 2007 (CDT)

P.S. Oh, and a quick reminder that the code for hardcovers is "hc", not "hb" :) Ahasuerus 00:49, 21 Jun 2007 (CDT)
Looks fine. I didn't think I entered it twice. Sorry, mind like a steel trap, rusty. It's an interesting alternate history/proto techno thriller. Dana Carson 04:04, 21 Jun 2007 (CDT)
Thanks, I have zapped the second submission, so we should be OK now. As far as "future war" stories go, they were so popular in the UK early in the XXth century that Wodehouse parodied them in 1909. There was a similar fad in the US during the first 2.5 years of WWI (for obvious reasons), so Wodehouse rewrote the novel to move the action to the US and had it published again in 1915 :) Ahasuerus 12:48, 21 Jun 2007 (CDT)

The Moon Men

Dana, just to let you know that I have approved the The Moon Men submission and changed the title of Roy Krenkel Jr.'s contribution from "illustration" to "The Moon Men". ERB's Moon trilogy has a notoriously convoluted history and, to make matters worse, we currently have variously named publications lumped together under the same Title record. We also have collections marked as novels and vice versa - it's a mess :-( I will try to sort it out later, but I won't have access to Tuck (who has a nice writeup) until a month from now. Ahasuerus 14:42, 30 Jun 2007 (CDT)

Thanks. Beyond Thirty aka Lost Continent looks like it needs fixing also. I'll see if I can figure out some of it. It only shows as a short story despite having several standalone publications. Would making the title record a serial fix that?
Actually Burroughs overall looks like it needs a going over. Maybe I should make a shot at it using the online biblios of his works. Dana Carson 23:26, 30 Jun 2007 (CDT)

Tarzan and the Lost Safari

I accepted this submission, but changed the author credit to "Anonymous". Research shows that it was ghostwritten by Frank Castle, and I made a note of that. Mhhutchins

Tarzan and the Castaways

You added a new publication of this title. Because there was a pre-existing pub with contents, you could have saved time by cloning the original pub. That way you don't have to merge the new records of the contents that were created when this one was accepted. Thanks. Mhhutchins 13:39, 1 Jul 2007 (CDT)

ebooks and ezines

You are the only one who responded as a significant user of ebooks and ezines. This has been a somewhat contentious subject matter but I think there are some that should be entered. I haven't had anyone with practical knowledge of this area to bounce ideas off of. If you are interested perhaps we can make sure that we are a significant part of the discussion. My initial inclination is to include only publications thar are 1) Not available in print format, 2) Not encrypted, 3) Downloadable in a universal format (i.e. PDF), 4) Available from a recognized professional science fiction publisher or from designated third parties (i.e. fictionwise). Web-based publications are obviously out because of their volatile nature. If my ideas sound good to you let me know and let me know if you have any other ideas. If we can come up with some conservative guideline and there is still no positive interest from the general community this is a subject matter I probably will not pursue. My main focus in The ISFDB is 50's magazines and that is where I would like to spend most of my time. You can respond on your talk page. I will put a watch on it until the discussion is over.--swfritter 17:44, 11 Jul 2007 (CDT)

Generally agree with your points. I'd like to have entries for etext versions of published works like the Baen and others offered through The point that one of the Baen Universe people brought up of having an ISSN number is good, some kind of stable reference not just a personal setup. Commercial sites like webscriptions, fictionwise and stable third party things like Gutenberg. Definitely not all the sites that reformat Gutenberg stuff or sites with unauthorized versions of copyrighted stuff.
Entering the data for all the Baen CDs is on my to do list but I haven't gotten to it.Dana Carson 02:51, 12 Jul 2007 (CDT)
Actually, Al added software support for e-books and audio books some time last year. If you search our MySQL archive, you will find a number of records with "Adobe Acrobat", "Microsoft reader", "audio CD" and other established formats entered in the "binding" field. It seemed to make sense at the time for a number of reasons, including growing acceptance throughout the industry, e.g. the addition of ISBNs as well as adoption by OCLC, the Library of Congress, Amazon, etc. The fact that many out of print stories are now available in some kind of electronic format was a strong argument as well. Our Policy page was out of date and didn't mention this change, so I went ahead and updated it a few minutes ago.
What the Baen folks are suggesting over on the Policy Talk page is that their Web-based zine is permanent enough to address the biggest argument against the inclusion of Web publications. I think they have a good point, we just need to find a way to change our Policy that would exclude their more mutable brethren in the Web-land. ISSNs (or lack thereof) are probably the most reliable/obvious divide. Ahasuerus 03:36, 12 Jul 2007 (CDT)
My suggestions were very conservative on purpose; designed to implement electronic media additions on a gradual basis. But since it now seems that that alternative media is going to be included (I listen to audio books, too) we can now have a dialog on the policies. The reason I suggested non-encrypted (i.e. non-DRM) cross-platform PDF editions is that they will have the longest shelf-life. A number of formats, like those for PDAs, will no longer be readable when the hardware they are designed for is obsolete. Encrypted formats have an even shorter shelf life. Once the encryption keys are lost the documents are unreadable. I might also note that many ebooks are available in as many as ten different formats. Should each of these formats be treated as a different edition? I hope I am not starting to sound like Mr. Negativity now but at least I am starting from the assumption that electronic media should be included, it's just a matter of policies. I would suggest that only Moderators be allowed to enter electronic media for a trial period so we can work on the policies. I suppose we need to find a neutral site for this discussion. Perhaps even a dedicated page.--swfritter 09:01, 12 Jul 2007 (CDT)
Well, it's true that encrypted formats will be harder to read a few years/decades down the road, but on the other hand, maintaining a list of formats that we want to include versus a list of formats that we want to exclude will add a fair amount of complexity to the rules. I am not sure that the number of additional non-paper Publication records will be high enough to justify the additional complexity. For example, OCLC lists 4,680 Publications for Isaac Asimov. Of that number, 4,166 are books, 278 are sound recordings, 134 are visuals, 48 are files and 15 are internet resources. There are more recent authors where the ratio of non-book records to books records is higher, but I suspect that it's still low enough to allow us to include all ISBN'd e-books. Ahasuerus 13:48, 12 Jul 2007 (CDT)
Apologies if this sounds like a spelling or grammar flame, but are you using "i.e." and "e.g." the way I do? I suspect not, as "fictionwise" looks like an example, but then again "non-encrypted" and "non-DRM" could be meant as synonymous. But I keep reading this as that PDF is the ONLY electronic format we'd want to support, whereas I'm sure a plain ".TXT" file is OK, and XML isn't likely to die out totally, being based on plain-text.... aw, now I'm overlapping with Ahasuerus's concerns... BLongley 15:30, 12 Jul 2007 (CDT)
In the meantime, can I grumble about the "Adobe Acrobat" category? I presume that's a PDF file, and you DON'T need Adobe Acrobat to read those - e.g. my phone uses Clearvue software to read them. It credits Adobe copyrights though, so I'm not sure PDF fits with the "Creative Commons" work we're doing... but that's a different discussion really. BLongley 15:30, 12 Jul 2007 (CDT)
And I have a grumble about the "audio" category too. We should insist on knowing whether it's cassette/CD/DVD/MP3/etc at least, the cassette and CD versions often differ massively in content. And we probably want to record the number of cassettes and/or CDs to give us some chance of deciding whether it's abridged or not. I think the "cassette" format is going to become obsolete faster than, say, a "Microsoft Word document" will be. Actually, I think I'll go check on some of my early UK CD-based SF magazines... that'll add a new twist, maybe. BLongley 15:30, 12 Jul 2007 (CDT)
I'm perfectly happy with a policy that allows entry of multiple formats as different editions and also encrypted DRM (pretty much synonymous, yes) versions. I just want to make sure that everyone knows these are considerations. I don't think there will be a major flood of entries at first. There will be time to make any necessary adjustments. Perhaps I should have just used the term "cross-platform formats" instead of PDF, but if we allow all formats it's really a moot point. Hey Dana, are you tired of us hogging your talk page? If you want I can move this over to my talk page since I'm the instigator of this discussion.--swfritter 17:41, 12 Jul 2007 (CDT)
Actually your arguments sound like my original point of view. There are a number of people who seem to be resistant to the entire concept of electronic publications being entered into The ISFDB and I was looking for a conservative approach that others could buy into. Please direct comments back to my talk page. I was only trying to get some feedback from Dana who was the only person who responded to my query for people who were familiar with ebooks. I had no intent of placing Dana in the middle of a discussion. Such foolish acts should be strictly voluntary.--swfritter 19:35, 12 Jul 2007 (CDT)
No problem with the discussion being here. I personally don't like DRM formats but if we are cataloging etext publications we should catalog them. Exact format for a work is as important as hardcover vs paperback or more so. What I read personally is usually HTML, plaintext or Palm. I have software to convert plaintext to Palm and vice versa. Baen is one of the best for that, they have everything is 5 formats. Dana Carson 00:18, 13 Jul 2007 (CDT)
I read mostly Palm and purchase most of my books from Fictionwise. I prefer Mobipocket but also buy Ereader if the books is only available in that format. Because of the way the early Fictionwise contracts were written with some of the publishers a number of my encrypted books apparently had a time-limit and were removed from my library. There were a couple of books I never got to read. That is not a problem anymore. Most of my public domain material comes from because they have Creative Commons and Gutenberg texts in about ten different formats. I used to download from Blackmask before they got nailed by Street and Smith for offering still copyrighted Shadow and Doc Savage novels. It took a while to get used to reading on a palm device but find my hi-resolution Palm T/X more than acceptable. Sure reduces the need for bookshelfs.--swfritter 11:43, 13 Jul 2007 (CDT)

Bujold's Dreamweaver's Dilemma

I accepted your updated submission for this collection but removed your addition of Suford Lewis in the AUTHOR field. ISFDB only credits the author in a single-author collection, not the editor. I added a note giving credit to Lewis as the book's editor. Thanks. Mhhutchins 12:23, 1 Aug 2007 (CDT)

She wrote several factual articles on the story universe that are in the book. Thought that should be considered an author credit. Dana Carson 13:59, 1 Aug 2007 (CDT)
If Lewis is given credit on the book's title page as "by Lois McMaster Bujold and Suford Lewis" then she would be given credit in the AUTHOR2 field. But if it says "edited by", "with notes by", "introduced by", "with an afterword by", etc., then there is no credit given accept for those pieces in which she is given title page credit. This is basically a single-author collection which was edited by someone else. I'd bet that 90% of single-author collections have editors, but very few are given credit unless the author is deceased. And even then, the ISFDB doesn't give the editor credit in the author fields. Mhhutchins 16:02, 1 Aug 2007 (CDT)
A few years ago some publishers (e.g. Tor) began printing novel/collection editors' names on the copyright page. A couple of ISFDB contributors have suggested that we may want to have a special field for editors, but nothing has come out of it yet. In the long run we may want to use the MARC-21 approach, i.e. have "roles" for any people associated with a Publication: "author", "editor", "translator", etc, but that would require a major redesign. One of these days, perhaps... Ahasuerus 18:13, 1 Aug 2007 (CDT)

Anderson's The Byworlder

I approved your update of this publication, but question the page given for the Niven/Pournelle/Barnes story. Can you verify and submit a correction. Thanks. Mhhutchins 20:25, 10 Aug 2007 (CDT)

Yep, typo, fixed. Thanks. Dana Carson 00:59, 19 Aug 2007 (CDT)

The Devil & Dan Cooley

Just a heads up that I added coverart to your verified pub, if you wish to check it. BLongley 15:20, 18 Aug 2007 (CDT)

Looks right. Thanks. Dana Carson 00:59, 19 Aug 2007 (CDT)

Unmerge of Poul Anderson's The People of the Wind

Which title did you wish to unmerge? No pub showed up in your submission. Mhhutchins 18:58, 11 Sep 2007 (CDT)

I checked out the title record and saw there was one pub with a variant title. I'm not sure if this is a true variant or a mis-entry. Locus1 shows the title is The People of the Wind but it could be wrong. Do you have a copy of the pub in order to verify the variant title? Mhhutchins 19:03, 11 Sep 2007 (CDT)
I approved this submisssion this morning. Amazon lists the title as People of the Wind and most of the sellers on Abebooks also list it this way. The only thing I didn't find was an image.Kraang 19:18, 11 Sep 2007 (CDT)
The Baen edition has People of the Wind, cover, spine and title page. I really need to gat a scanner working. Dana Carson 19:42, 11 Sep 2007 (CDT)
Sounds good enough for me. I'll have to reject your original submission, because it didn't include a pub. Try another unmerge and be sure to check the Baen pub. Thanks. Mhhutchins 20:19, 11 Sep 2007 (CDT)
Your second attempt to unmerge came through the same as the first. Thought I'd take a chance and approve it, but it didn't do anything. Then I realized that the Baen title is already unmerged from the original title as a variant. Go to this variant title and you'll see that the Baen pub is already listed under the correct title. Hope this clears up the matter. Mhhutchins 20:43, 11 Sep 2007 (CDT)
I also created the variant this morning. Sorry about not mentioning it earlier, minds on other things. The medal markets are volatile, currencies are fluctuating, exciting time in my trade.Kraang 21:02, 11 Sep 2007 (CDT)
No, I should have first checked to make that the pub in question had its own reference title, and wasn't sharing the reference title from which the editor wanted it unmerged (I think that makes sense, but it is getting late and I've been sitting here for way too long!) Anyway, it's straightened out now. Mhhutchins 22:08, 11 Sep 2007 (CDT)
Well almost fixed. I merged the two empty title records with the existing title record. Now its fixed. I hope!Kraang 22:47, 11 Sep 2007 (CDT)

Captain Empirical/Series

Dana I had to add the collection into the series because without a novel length book the series will not appear on the author summary page. The series is still there with the Shortfiction but just not on the summary page. As for this being more a novel than a collection, if the stories can be separated out with there own chapter titles than it would probably be best to leave it described as a collection. Your note about the linking material between chapters is the best way to approach the issue of novel verses collection.Kraang 21:44, 13 Sep 2007 (CDT)

Chapter 1 The Q-Pod Tape Begins starts on pg 1, chapter 2 Meanwhile, Back in Operations on pg 9, then on pg 19 there is a large ellipsis and The Fourth-Stage Polygraph and the page heading changes to that from Meanwhile, Back in Operations which is the chapter name. Then on pg 43 chapter 3 starts. I swear that writers and editors do things like this just to mess with us. Similar with the rest of the stories, a chapter and part of another set in the briefing and than the next story. Dana Carson 00:36, 14 Sep 2007 (CDT)
Actually, Silverberg has stated that he reshuffled the content of Needle in a Timestack in 1985 to confuse bibliographers. He now says that he underestimated them :) Ahasuerus 12:23, 14 Sep 2007 (CDT)
1985? His usual reference site says 1979, as does this one. Still, mine is the 1967 Sphere edition, so if someone can please verify a later one I'll know to go buy a newer copy... and if he did do a THIRD shuffle in 1985, I'm particularly interested in that too. BLongley 16:58, 15 Sep 2007 (CDT)
Oops, my bad, it's 1979 according to my master catalog. 1985 comes from an unverified ISFDB publication, which confused me for a few minutes. I have both editions in my collection and should be able to Verify them on October 6. Ahasuerus 19:10, 15 Sep 2007 (CDT)
Ta muchly! I updated our later pub from the online Locus (can't let us Bibliographers get dissed without SOME response!) but of course can't verify that one. BLongley 19:34, 15 Sep 2007 (CDT)
But I might have all the stories anyway... one tool I would like and might have to create is an "I have these collections/anthologies, do I need to buy this one too for a story by Author X?" I presume when I'm buying the "Complete Short Stories of Philip K. Dick" in five volumes (do I get a refund if I find a missing one?), I can discard a few others, but I know I have completely redundant John Varley titles for instance (identical contents, different titles) and Bradbury collections that overlap several times over. Even though my cleaner has reshuffled and found room for one more bookcase, I have three double-stacked ones still and removing unnecessary pubs is still needed. (Or a lottery win.) BLongley 19:34, 15 Sep 2007 (CDT)

Story in The Trouble with Humans

You verified this pub so I hope you have it handy. When it was first published in Fantastic December 1964 the title had an exclamation point as it appeared on the title page (but not on the table of contents). It probably doesn't have one in the collection but if the book is handy I would appreciate it if you could double check. You can answer on your page. Thanks! or perhaps Thanks (without an exclamation point).--swfritter 12:55, 14 Sep 2007 (CDT)

Just noticed that you did it yesterday so it probably is handy. Did you not put the original dates for the stories because they are not listed or because you intended to update them when you do a merge of the individual titles?--swfritter 13:39, 14 Sep 2007 (CDT)

No exclamation point anywhere. I usually do dates when I do merges since that fixes most of them. Dana Carson 16:38, 14 Sep 2007 (CDT)
I will go ahead and do the one story as a variant title. Kind of a weird coincidence that you would add such an obscure story one day and I would edit and update the magazine it appeared in the next day.--swfritter 17:10, 14 Sep 2007 (CDT)

Draco's Tavern

At this time, once a series has been assigned to a superseries, there is no way to make it a standalone series again, so your attempt to move "Draco's Tavern" from under "Tales of Known Space" didn't work. The only (and admittedly imperfect) way around it is to create a dummy superseries, e.g. "Draco's Tavern Universe" and move the series to it. Hopefully, this will be one of many Series problems that Al will fix once he gets to that bug list. Ahasuerus 22:19, 20 Sep 2007 (CDT)

The Moons of Jupiter

Is the first printing date May 1872?[1]:-)Kraang 23:52, 22 Sep 2007 (CDT)

Asimov was a man ahead of his time :-). Fixed Dana Carson 02:37, 23 Sep 2007 (CDT)


Dana, you have been an active editor since January and there have been very few problems with your submissions the last few months. You also contribute to the Wiki and communicate well. Do you think you are ready to become a moderator? That way you would be able to approve your own submissions, which tends to speed things up considerably and also helps alleviate the load on other moderators. If you have some free time, you could also work on other editors' submissions, but there are no "expectations", much less "quotas". If you think that you are ready, let me know and I will nominate you over on the Community Portal. Thanks! Ahasuerus 16:07, 23 Sep 2007 (CDT)

OK. I think I've learned enough to not do any damage I can't fix. Thanks. Dana Carson 21:07, 23 Sep 2007 (CDT)
Excellent, I will get the ball rolling :) Ahasuerus 21:23, 23 Sep 2007 (CDT)
Congratulations, you are now a moderator! :) Ahasuerus 17:10, 1 Oct 2007 (CDT)
Commiserations, you are now a moderator! :) (It's not that bad really - just don't let the power go to your head, read the advice, and you'll be fine.) BLongley 17:30, 1 Oct 2007 (CDT)

(Unindent) I just realised the Link from the Moderator screen to its Help is broken - use this instead, if you haven't spotted that already. I don't know when the "" problem will be fixed, but for now, always try changing the "" to "org" when a link seems broken. BLongley 16:23, 2 Oct 2007 (CDT)

Asprin's "The Cold Cash War"

I see that you would like to change the publication date of the second printing of the September 1992 edition from 0000-00-00 to 1992-09-00. Do you think that the second printing appeared the same month as the first printing? Or are you following the proposed convention that would assign the date of the first printing to all subsequent printings whose date we don't know? Ahasuerus 06:00, 24 Sep 2007 (CDT)

Using the first printing plus printing number as that to me gives more data than lots of unknowns. Given the fact that its the same price it was probably not much after the first printing. Dana Carson 17:11, 24 Sep 2007 (CDT)
Oh, you were using the convention proposed back in July!. But wouldn't you then want to use 1992-09-02 instead of just 1992-09-00? Ahasuerus 18:09, 24 Sep 2007 (CDT)
Doh, Right forgot the date as version number bit. Ideally we can add a printing number field at some point. Dana Carson 04:09, 25 Sep 2007 (CDT)
I hope we will too, although I've already got many examples of why that STILL won't be a final solution. :-S
But I do like the "First Printing Date" + "Printing Number" when that's all we have on the book, and notes to explain the convention we're using on that pub. I can live with abusing the Day part of the date if that's explained in the notes, it does make things sort well: but doesn't help when I have printing 32 or higher. (I think my highest is 48 so far.) I've still got to go and research publishers a bit more before we can come up with the next "Final Solution" (that won't be, but should be an improvement) as I've already today, for instance, pointed out that a Methuen paperback is the second printing of a Magnum paperback that Amazon actually now credit to Millennium... BLongley 17:30, 25 Sep 2007 (CDT)
No problem, I have approved the submission and corrected the date. As far as the underlying issue goes, we will definitely want to add a "printing number" field to the database sooner rather than later, although the exact details are still unclear. Unfortunately, as long as we don't have it, we end up with what appear to be duplicate Publication records on the Title page. Ahasuerus 20:11, 25 Sep 2007 (CDT)

SFBC edition of The Foundation Trilogy

I'm not sure if you added this edition or just updated it, but the number of pages didn't show up fully, since the field can only contain a limited number of characters. Can you think of a way around this? The record for the original SFBC edition shows just the page numbers (227+227+225). And to be honest with you, I don't see the necessity of adding another SFBC edition. I'm one of the few here who don't feel the need to include every printing of a book, unless there's a change in ISBN, price or cover artist. But I'm probably in the minority. :) Mhhutchins 22:13, 25 Sep 2007 (CDT)

I'll see what I can do. Maybe remove the viis and just have it in the notes. The problem with the SFBC editions is its hard to figure out if they are different since the books don't have things like prices on them. If I remember correctly thats one of the ones I got as part of my 3 books for a dime when you join back when I was in jr. high. Got it signed a couple of years later when Asimov did a lecture at one of the local universities. Dana Carson 23:07, 25 Sep 2007 (CDT)
I see you made the gutter number the catalog ID#. I don't think it's been set in stone, but for SFBC (Doubleday) editions you should use the number printed on the back inside flap for pre-1980s editions. For later editions it's on the back of the dustcover. Thanks. Mhhutchins 10:02, 26 Sep 2007 (CDT)
I double chacked. No number anywhere. Looks like old enough SFBC only have gutter numbers. Th 1963 SFBC edition apparently didn't have a number either, at least whoever entered it didn't list one. Dana Carson 19:21, 26 Sep 2007 (CDT)

Taking another Asprin

I see you've been working on some of his titles, do you have an opinion on this?

I'm not sure that his latest books use the middle name. In fact, the last two books that you (Dcarson) updated, Myth-lon Improbable and Something Myth Inc. were published as by Robert Asprin not Robert Lynn Asprin. Can you double check to make sure we're getting the right credits on these. Thanks. Mhhutchins 21:17, 28 Sep 2007 (CDT)
Should have though to put it in a note. The covers have Robert Asprin, the title pages inside have Robert Lynn Asprin. At least for the Meisha Merlin editions that I have. I am making the assumption that the hardcovers are identical to the trades, MM released them together and the copyright pages have both ISBNs. Dana Carson 21:57, 28 Sep 2007 (CDT)
Can you check Tales from the Vulgar Unicorn too please? On my UK editions of the series, his short story credits vary between having a Lynn and not, and may have them on the short story even if he doesn't have them on the cover. Also, can you check whether the introduction is actually an Essay or (uncredited, but probably Asprin) shortfiction?
Finally, if you have other titles in the series, can you check if the Editor's notes are the same across them? (They refer to inconsistencies, but seem to be consistent in the two different titles I've checked so far! ;-/ ) BLongley 14:45, 29 Sep 2007 (CDT)
Robert Lynn Asprin on both the story and the title page. The Intro is a fictional bit. Will update. The editor's note in Thieves' World and Vulgar Unicorn seem the same, the one in Storm Season is different. Thieves' World has Robert Asprin on both the title page and the short story. Storm Season has the full name on both. Dana Carson 16:00, 30 Sep 2007 (CDT)
Thanks for checking! I've just acquired a few more copies of some titles in the series and I can see why I left them out of my first and second passes of checking: you really need to understand variant authors, Title over Copyright page, Spine and Cover credits etc, before you tackle these. :-( (It's even worse for the UK editors: I have to adjust "Epilog" to "Epilogue" and suchlike.) BLongley 16:14, 30 Sep 2007 (CDT)
Just an FYI that I massaged most of Asprin's Titles and some of his first edition Publication records about a year ago. The data was based on Reginald, so it may not reflect subtle difference in attribution. Ahasuerus 16:27, 30 Sep 2007 (CDT)

Advent:Publishers, Inc.

Info on them is at efanzines/EK 1, efanzines/EK 6 and Nesfa order form.

Young Rissa

Sorry about the approval, i got you confused with Dsorgen.Kraang 18:43, 14 Oct 2007 (CDT)

No problem. That's a convoluted series with the different ways they're bundled. Dana Carson 14:29, 15 Oct 2007 (CDT)


Removed the middle initial (D.) from Saturnalia since I can't find it anywhere on my copy. Dana Carson 05:11, 18 Oct 2007 (CDT)

Project Jove / The Hunters of Jundagai

Your copy had a broken Amazon Image Link // so I replaced it with one that works - please check to see if it's a good enough alternative. BLongley 09:32, 28 Oct 2007 (CDT)

Same happened with The Key to Venudine / Mercenary From Tomorrow - the URL of // didn't work. Replaced again, please check. BLongley 13:23, 28 Oct 2007 (CDT)

Again here - I'm beginning to wonder if they're picking on you! BLongley 14:23, 31 Oct 2007 (CDT)

All good. We need a reliable image source. Dana Carson 18:05, 31 Oct 2007 (CDT)
No kidding! ;-( Ahasuerus 23:39, 31 Oct 2007 (CDT)
The program I use (Bookpedia) has field for cover images so I have a local copy of any I own so I can upload them when we have a place. Dana Carson 01:57, 1 Nov 2007 (CDT)
Project Jove / The Hunters of Jundagai broke again. I fixed it again but maybe it's time for you to upload your copy here? BLongley 11:17, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
Also, is it "John S. Glasby" internally, as the cover seems to omit the middle initial? BLongley 11:17, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
And 47143 is broken again too. :-/ I think we need your uploads. BLongley 11:19, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
Confirmed that there is no "S." in "John Glasby" anywhere in the book. Ahasuerus 04:07, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

(unindent)Uploaded the cover for 47143 Dana Carson 05:30, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Son of the Tree / The Houses of Iszm

Right Cover? BLongley 10:25, 28 Oct 2007 (CDT)

Yes thats the same cover I have. Dana Carson 17:53, 31 Oct 2007 (CDT)

The Collected Works of Buck Rogers in the 25th Century

This edition which you had verified came up on the Short Fiction/Non-fiction Data Inconsistency page. From the contents that were entered I assume that the TYPE was incorrectly entered as NON-FICTION. Since most of the contents is fiction, I changed the TYPE to ANTHOLOGY. Do you agree that this would be the more appropriate category? Thanks. Mhhutchins 12:07, 28 Oct 2007 (CDT)

Probably. The contents are reprints of the comics and articles about the Buck Rodgers. So either that or non genra since it isn't written SF. Dana Carson 18:07, 31 Oct 2007 (CDT)

'"Riddle Me This . . . "'

This is to let you know that I'm about to change the title of a story, which is in a collection you verified. The story is Anvil's "Riddle Me This . . . ", & the quotes should be part of the title; it's that way in the magazine publication (where I'm actually going to make the change), but I went & checked my copy of Interstellar Patrol II: The Federation of Humanity (which is what you verified), as well, & the quotes are there too. So hopefully this isn't a problem. Thanks. -- Dave davecat 13:23, 7 Nov 2007 (CST)

Sounds right. Must not have thought when I did it. Dana Carson 14:18, 8 Nov 2007 (CST)

Looks wrong

Indeed it does! I wondered whether "One Hand Clapping" should be here at all - the Non-Work-Safe cover made me think it was erotica rather than SF, but an Amazon UK review says "it's an unusual combination of love story, horror story, contemporary fantasy and science fiction". But it certainly doesn't belong here in THAT sort of mix-up! BLongley 06:34, 11 Nov 2007 (CST)
I'll remove the L&C title from it and leave the novel for someone to verify at some point. Dana Carson 16:55, 11 Nov 2007 (CST)
"One Hand Clapping" looks intriguing enough that I may be the verifier at some point, but don't hold your breath. Accidentally buying the "A. N. Roquelaure" books (I ordered "Anne Rice" books, I'm sure!) has probably given me enough SF/F porn for years. BLongley 17:12, 11 Nov 2007 (CST)

Binder's Adam Link - Robot

Can you verify whether the authorship of this edition is given to "Eando Binder" or as you verified it, Earl and Otto Binder? The cover gives the combined pseudonym, but if you have a copy, check to title page. Thanks.

Title page has Eando Binder also. Dana Carson 02:13, 14 Nov 2007 (CST)

Escape on Venus

Can you please check your verified version (and any of the other Krenkels like it, if you can)? I've been trying to track down all the Ace version's covers but some are just a bit too blurry to my eyes at the moment. BLongley 14:06, 18 Nov 2007 (CST)

Author index questions

All the same author?

  1. Count Stanislaus Eric Stenbock
  2. Count Eric Stenbock
  3. Count Stenbock
Fixed Mhhutchins 01:09, 31 Dec 2007 (CST)


All the same artist?

  1. Darell K. Sweet
  2. Darrel K. Sweet
  3. Darrell K. Sweet
Fixed Mhhutchins 01:09, 31 Dec 2007 (CST)

In Fritz Leiber and H.P. Lovecraft: Writers of the Dark Ben J. S. Szumskyj is the editor, Ben S. J. Szumskyj wrote the intro. One of those has to be a typo. And Benjamin Szumskyj wrote Fritz Leiber: Critical Essays which seems like it would be the same person.

Same Artist?

  1. Slatter-Anderson
  2. Slatter~Anderson

Probably artist not author

S. H. Sime I don't think he did interior art in 1910 and a novel in 2005

Sume illustrated this Dunsany collection when it first appeared in 1908. I have fixed the pub and will add Contents shortly. Ahasuerus 11:46, 23 Dec 2007 (CST)
Contents data entered for the 1908, 1916 and 2005 editions. Ahasuerus 14:55, 23 Dec 2007 (CST)

Same Artist?

  1. Hannah M. G. Shapero
  2. Hanna M. G. Shapero
  3. Hannah Shapero
  4. Hanna M.G. Shapero
  5. Hanna Shapero
  6. Hannah M.G. Shapero
Fixed Mhhutchins 01:09, 31 Dec 2007 (CST)

Same author?

  1. Millicent Ellis Selsam
  2. Millicent E. Selsam

Jsepha_Sherman really Josepha_Sherman?

Same author?

  1. Quien Sabe
  2. Quien Sabe?

Same author?

  1. E. Rose Sabin
  2. E. Ross Sabin
  3. Elenora Rose Sabin

Same Author?

  1. Scott R. Sanders
  2. Scott Russell Sanders
  3. Scott Sanders
All legitimate bylines, but had to create a canonical name and pseudonyms Mhhutchins 01:32, 31 Dec 2007 (CST)

Same Artist?

  1. Anthony Frederick Augustus Sandys
  2. Anthony Frederick Sandys

Same editor?

  1. Hans Stefan Santessen
  2. Hans Stefan Santesson
Fixed Mhhutchins 01:09, 31 Dec 2007 (CST)

Same artist?

  1. L. Robert Tschirky
  2. Robert Tschirsky

Same author?

  1. Janet Trautuetter
  2. Janet Trautvetter

Same author?

  1. Dave Truesdale
  2. David A. Truesdale
  3. David Truesdale

Same author?

  1. Lisa Trumbauer
  2. Lisa Trutkoff Trumbauer

Same author (typo)?

  1. Alvin Toffer
  2. Alvin Toffler
Fixed Mhhutchins 01:09, 31 Dec 2007 (CST)
Toffer links to a Commentary in Asimov's Dec 1982; on the cover they have printed Commentary: ... Alvin Toffler, see Asimov's 1982 listing.

Leo Tolstoi is Leo Tolstoy. See is it's a typo or a different transliteration.

Same author?

  1. Robert E. Toomey, Jr.
  2. Robert Toomey

Same author, needs cleanup

  1. A. T. Quiller-Couch
  2. Arthur Quiller-Couch
  3. Sir Arthur Quiller-Couch
  4. Sir Arthur T. Quiller-Couch

Same artist?

  1. A. R. Tilburn
  2. A. R. Tilburne

Same artist?

  1. Jerry Tiritili
  2. Jerry Tiritilli

Same author, needs mergng or variant.

  1. E. P. Thompson
  2. Edward Palmer Thompson

Why 2 entries that go the same place?

  1. Edward Thompson
  2. Edward Thompson

Same author?

  1. G. R. Thompson
  2. G. Richard Thompson

Same author?

  1. Michael S. Teitelbaum
  2. Michael Teitelbaum
  3. Mike Teitelbaum

Same author?

  1. Alison Tellure
  2. Allison Tellure

Same author?

  1. Walter S. Tevis
  2. Walter S. Tevis, Jr.
  3. Walter Tevis
All legitimate bylines Mhhutchins 01:09, 31 Dec 2007 (CST)

Same author, who's typo?

  1. Lou Tabakov
  2. Lou Tabakow

Same artist?

  1. Bill Tackett
  2. Billy Tackett

Rumiko Takahashi is all manga I think.

Shin Takahashi also it looks like.

In fact anythig published by VIZ, VIZ LLC, or VIZ Media should be suspect.

Same author?

  1. Barbara E. Tarbox
  2. Barbara Tarbox

Same editor?

  1. James Taurasi
  2. James V. Taurasi

Same artist?

  1. Marc Tauss (has a webpage under this name and has worked for Simon & Schuster) Mhhutchins 01:09, 31 Dec 2007 (CST)
  2. Mark Tauss (one verified cover credit for Simon & Schuster, so it must be a misprint on the cover) Mhhutchins 01:09, 31 Dec 2007 (CST)

Same author, last 2 almost certain?

  1. Jennifer S. Uglow
  2. Jennifer Uglow
  3. Jenny Uglow

Same author?

  1. William H. Upson
  2. William Hazlett Upson

Same artist?

  1. Christophe Vacher
  2. Christopher Vacher
Fixed Mhhutchins 01:09, 31 Dec 2007 (CST)

Same author

  1. Catherine M. Valente
  2. Catherynne M. Valente
  3. Catherynne Valente

Same artist?

  1. Ed Valigurskey
  2. Edward Valigurskey
  3. Ed Valigursky
  4. Edward Valigursky
I am pretty sure it's the same artist, Ed Valigursky, who started back in the pulp era working on Amazing and such. Ahasuerus 00:54, 31 Dec 2007 (CST)

Name dup

  1. Richard Vardon
  2. Richard Vardon

Same author?

  1. I. Varshavsky
  2. Ilya Varshavsky
Yes, it's the same author, now properly linked. There was a Moscow-based publishing house responsible for translating Soviet (mostly Russian) SF in the 1960s-1980s ("Mir", then "Raduga") and they sent a fair amount of the stuff to Europe and America. However, their attempts at distribution were rather pathetic and it's hard to find now. For some reason "Mir"/"Raduga"'s editors tended to use initials instead of their authors' full names, so at some point we will need to check all of their books for duplicate Author records. Ahasuerus 00:54, 31 Dec 2007 (CST)

Same author?

  1. Mark Cotta Vaz
  2. Mark Vaz

Same author?

  1. Monsieur Vivenair
  2. Vivenair

Same artist?

  1. J. Vita
  2. Jason Vita

Same author?

  1. Austin T. Wright
  2. Austin Tappan Wright
Yes. Fixed. -DES Talk 09:10, 1 Feb 2008 (CST)

Same author?

  1. Anthony D. Wroble
  2. D. Wroble

Kim Kang Won looks like it might be all manga

Park Sung Woo all manga.

Dup name

  1. George R. Woodcock
  2. Gordon R. Woodcock

Same author?

  1. Stanley J. Wiater
  2. Stanley Wiater

Same author?

  1. Lois June Wickstrom
  2. Lois Wickstrom

Same author?

  1. William J. Widder nothing listed here or Amazon for Widders despite having birth/death info
  2. William J. Widders
Presumably William J. Widder, M.A. (1926-2004) and "Widders" was in error. Ahasuerus 23:14, 31 Dec 2007 (CST)

John Williams is almost certainly not all the same person.

Same author/fan?

  1. Walt Willis
  2. Walter A. Willis
  3. Walter Willis

Same artist?

  1. Dawn E. Wilson
  2. Dawn Wilson

Same author? plus a dup name

  1. Glen T. Wilson
  2. Glen T. Wilson
  3. Glenn T. Wilson

Same author?

  1. Robley Wilson
  2. Robley Wilson, Jr.

Same author?

  1. R. F. Wexler
  2. Robert Freeman Wexler

Same Author?

  1. George T. Wetzel
  2. George Wetzel

Same artist?

  1. Wendy Adrian Wees
  2. Wendy Wees

Sorry for jumping on your submissions

Dana, I'd forgotten that you were a mod and approved some of your submissions. Seems I was getting you and Don Erikson mixed up. Mea culpa. Mhhutchins 18:36, 20 Jan 2008 (CST)

Newpub: Devices and Desires

My recent edits show that you approved the following:

2008-01-21 07:33:30 NewPub Dcarson Devices and Desires -

However, I am not seeing the new publication in the DB. Oversight or error? Md5i 16:18, 21 Jan 2008 (CST)

Actually, I see two K. J. Parker titles with this title, Devices And Desires and Devices and Desires. I assume they need to be merged? Ahasuerus 16:27, 21 Jan 2008 (CST)
Actually, I had added the Oct 2007 edition, which at the time I posted, still was not appearing. It is there now, though. Md5i 16:51, 21 Jan 2008 (CST)
And I see that Al von Ruff has just merged them, so we should be in good shape! :) Ahasuerus 18:11, 21 Jan 2008 (CST)

1634: The Bavarian Crisis

In your verified publication the coauthor is shown as "Virginia Demarce". But all the evidence I can find suggests that the corrrect spelling is "Virginia DeMarce" (see Author:Virginia DeMarce for more detail). I intende to correct this. If your copy actually shows the spelling "Virginia Demarce" please let me know. -DES Talk 14:19, 3 Feb 2008 (CST)

Looks like a typo on my part. Go ahead and fix it. Thanks. Dana Carson 19:49, 3 Feb 2008 (CST)
Thanks. -DES Talk 20:28, 3 Feb 2008 (CST)

The Grantville Gazette

In your verified publication the author of "The Rudolstadt Colloquy" is shown as "Virginia De Marce". But all the evidence I can find suggests that the correct spelling is "Virginia DeMarce" (see Author:Virginia DeMarce for more detail). I intend to correct this. If your copy actually shows the spelling "Virginia De Marce" please let me know. -DES Talk 14:23, 3 Feb 2008 (CST)

It is De Marce in the TOC but DeMarce on the actual story. So policy says go with the actual story spelling. Dana Carson 19:48, 3 Feb 2008 (CST)
Thanks. -DES Talk 20:28, 3 Feb 2008 (CST)

Gods & Warlords of Mars

I've added the cover image to your verified edition of this pub, and changed the publisher from SFBC to Nelson Doubleday / SFBC. Let me know if this doesn't match your copy. Thanks. Mhhutchins 10:59, 10 Feb 2008 (CST)

Sorry, forgot to ask. Is Burroughs' "Foreword (The Gods of Mars)" shortfiction or essay? Thanks. Mhhutchins 11:00, 10 Feb 2008 (CST)
It's one of the ones where Burroughs tells of getting the manuscript from his uncle John Carter. I'd call it shortfiction. The cover matches. Dana Carson 04:19, 11 Feb 2008 (CST)

ISFDB Moderator e-mail

I don't have your e-mail handy but would like to add you to the isfdb.moderators followed by at mail distribution account. It's very low traffic and mainly gets used when ISFDB is down or when people get blocked out of ISFDB. If you don't mind being added to the distribution then please contact me via and I'll add you to the gmail account's forwarding rules. Thank you. Marc Kupper (talk) 04:23, 21 Feb 2008 (CST)

Command Decision by Moon

In your verified pub the publication date is given to month and day. My copy states that it is the first ed, but does not include any date beyond the copyright notice, which gives only the year. Is your copy different? Or did you have another source? -DES Talk 02:26, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

I'm sure I had a good reason. I can't remember what it was and see nothing in the book to tell me. So drop the day from the date. Dana Carson 09:23, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. Done. -DES Talk 14:03, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Doc Savage Omnibuses

Oops, I have approved two of your Doc Savage omnibuses, I noticed too late that you are a moderator yourself. I wonder however if the titles of novels should not be separated by '/' as in Screen:EditPub: Otherwise enter the individual titles, separated by a slash, like this: "Conan the Conqueror/The Sword of Rhiannon".? --Roglo 20:15, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

You are probably right. There were some already entered and I just kept entering them the same way. Better to fix it now. I'm going to have to go over an enter 190 pseudonym entries when I'm done entering the as published data. No sense adding more that needs changing. Dana Carson 01:26, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Pocket ed. of Eyes of the Overworld

I added cover art to your verified edition of this title, but the cover has a "The" in the title. Does the title page omit it? Thanks. MHHutchins 04:56, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

No it has a The in both places. Sigh. Fixed. Dana Carson 19:51, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Note added to your verifed pub

User:Rhschu has added a note to your verified pub Sky Pirates of Callisto about the cover artist's signature. This user has not used the wiki at all, as far as i can tell, and has not responded to attempts to contact him or her. So there is no plausible prospect of workign together on this issue that I can see. if you do somehow manage to get in touch with this user, please ask him or her to visit the appropriate wiki talk page. -DES Talk 16:09, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Niven & Pournelle's Inferno

Wouldn't you agree that the publication date for your verified copy of this title is actually unknown? Most of the time Pocket will publish the date of the first printing only with a number line indicating the printing number. In the case of your edition, the date of its printing isn't stated, only its printing number, so by ISFDB standards the date should be entered as 0000-00-00. Thanks. MHHutchins 00:18, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

Lin Carter's In the Green Star's Glow

Same situation as above. Shouldn't the date of this pub be 0000-00-00? These have come up because I'm doing a verification based on Locus listings circa 1975/76. MHHutchins 00:47, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

I did those when we were using the first pub date plus printing number as day experiment. I'll change them both. Dana Carson 01:14, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Chage to your verified Athyra

User:Rhschu has added a note to your verified pub of Athyra indicatign that it is a first printing. Is this correct for your pub? -DES Talk 04:11, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Coverart added to Agent of the Terran Empire

I have added coverart to your verified pub of Agent of the Terran Empire. I trust it is correct. -DES Talk 17:38, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

That looks like the same cover. Dana Carson 02:08, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Skylife: Space Habitats in Story and Science

Dana, can you get your hands on this Verified Pub of yours?--CoachPaul 18:51, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Sure. What do you need to know? Dana Carson 03:10, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
The entry on page 57 has been changed to an Essay, and I'm thinking that it's in reality several short stories. Check out this other pub to see how it has been handled in another book. I would assume that all of the stories from this sequence are all there, but it's always possible that it isn't. If there are any questions, don't hesitate to ask.--CoachPaul 14:10, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
OK, fixed it like the other one. Good catch. Why did it get changed to essay? Dana Carson 06:23, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
Some people had been using an Essay or Shortfiction "Covering Title" to make the section name appear in their pub. This didn't work too well so people moved to putting the individual titles into a series so whether 1, 2 or 3 or all of them appeared in a pub the covering name was there without interfering with everyone else's pubs. See here and here. You may want to sort out the Passerby / Passer-By variants so your entry appears too. BLongley 18:23, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Outlaws of Mars

Dana can you check this title[2], the image doesn't match the listed title. If the title's "The Outlaws of Mars" then it's also under the wrong title variant :-) Thanks!Kraang 01:46, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

It is The Outlaws of Mars. Actually there are no publications with the main title of Outlaws of Mars. Tried to make the listed only under the The Outlaws variant, ended up with 2 copies of the pubs and when I fixed that they are all listed under both variations. Dana Carson 01:58, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
I did a check of the title and found an image of the Argosy 1933[3] publication and it would appear that there is no variant title. I believe the variant came from Wikipedia were it's recorder as "Outlaws of Mars" 1933 which is the Argosy publication. The next recording of the title is in an Avalon hc and that image also shows the title as "The Outlaws of Mars". If you agree with this then I'll trash the variant.Kraang 02:07, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
Does seem like its an error. I'd say trash it. Dana Carson 06:08, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Image sizes on the wiki

If you keep the largest dimension of an image under 600 pixels, it will display properly on the image description page. Larger images can be uploaded, but when the software tries to scale them down for display, it requires an extension to the MediaWiki software not yet installed on our wiki. -DES Talk 15:25, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Just scanned and uploaded. I'll see if there is an option to scale to a given size. Not a graphics type so I tend to not have sw for image manipulation. Dana Carson 22:48, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
Many windows systems come with at least a basic photo editor installed free, but I suggest IrfanView a top-notch shareware image display and editing program. There are lots of others out there, of course. -DES Talk 23:25, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
OS X user here. Preview will save a image at a given size so I'll see how that works. Dana Carson 01:38, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
Yep, that works. OK will try and remember to scale to 600 px from now on. Dana Carson 01:42, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

The Key to Venudine / Mercenary From Tomorrow

Bluesman wants to update your verified pub by putting all the reference numbers into the ISBN field - probably not a good move, so I held it. You may want to talk to him directly, but he doesn't seem to have found the Wiki yet. BLongley 21:32, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Jack Vance's The Blue World

I've added cover art to your verified edition of this title. MHHutchins 21:17, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

That's it. Dana Carson 21:20, 12 August 2008 (UTC)

Your Verified Pub - East of the Sub, West of the Moon

Hi - Could you check your paperback for Ooorcs in Spaaace and see if it actually lists a December 2007 printing, or if it was January 2008, which is what Baen lists online. Thanks Kevin 04:11, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

It was the 2008 date. Must not have been paying enough attention when I verified it. Dana Carson 05:40, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Flag in Exile

With respect to your verified copy: 1) is it the first printing? and 2) is the cover artist credit really to Gary Ruddell? My 3rd printing definitely credits the rather less famous "Larry" Ruddell. BLongley 19:57, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

And wrt the first book in the series - was the cover artist really "Laurence Schwinger"? He's "Larry" Schwinger by the 4th printing. BLongley 20:04, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
Says first printing September 1995, no number line or other indication of being a later printing. Yes listed as Gary.
That one he is listed as Larry. Dana Carson 11:31, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Downbelow Station

You verified DWNBLWSTTN1981 which lists the cover artist as "David B. Mattingly". We also have DNBLWSTN1981, which is apparently identical except that the record lists the artist as "David Mattingly". This second record is unverified. User:Bluseman (who has apparently not found the wiki yet) has submitted a delete for the unverified record as a duplicate. Before I approve the deletion, can you check how the artist was listed on your copy? Is there any chance that the B was no in the artist credit? -DES Talk 21:32, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Definitely a B. on the copyright page. Dana Carson 07:53, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

SFBC edition of Burroughs' Princess of Mars

When you get a chance could you see if your copy of this title has a gutter code on (or near) the last page consisting of two numbers and the letter "L"? Thanks. MHHutchins 02:47, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

Have to find where my son-in-law hid that one Dana Carson 07:53, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
He found it. Gutter code "20 L". Dana Carson 08:23, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Verification request

Could you please check this discussion when you get a chance? Thanks! Ahasuerus 23:18, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

The Magic May Return

I was checking your verified mass marker edition of The Magic May Return against my copy and noticed that you attributed the unsigned "Introduction" to Niven. The intro, however, refers to Niven in the third person (albeit playfully) and it's not clear who the author may have been. Do you think it would be safer to change it to "uncredited"? Thanks! Ahasuerus 21:29, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes it would. Fixed. Dana Carson 07:48, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Doc Savage Omnibus #11

I approved your update to 919039 but am wondering how a storylen of /168,169,170,171,172 works better than /168-172. Marc Kupper (talk) 07:11, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

They started with fewer in a omnibus and I got into the habit of listing all of them. Dana Carson 07:54, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
The new format is a disconcerting as I assume there must be a missing number and so scanned to locate what's missing and find that none are. /168-172 is much faster to parse mentally. If a story is not included then you can use /168-169,171-172 or /168-170,172 and the eye/brain more or less instantly knows which element is missing. Marc Kupper (talk) 00:35, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
Need to make another pass to add the real author variant. I'll change them then. Dana Carson 04:29, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Over the Wine-Dark Sea

It is my thought that the series that starts with Over the Wine-Dark Sea (by Turtledove writing as : H. N. Turteltaub) should be marked as "non-genre". Since you verified the first book in the series, i did not want to do this without consulting you. -DES Talk 23:36, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Probably. All the magic and gods are only in the beliefs of the characters, no actual appearances. So they are straight historical. So yeah change them. Dana Carson 02:41, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
Will do. Thanks. Frankly, Turtledove ought IMO to write straight historical more often, it plays to his strengths as a writer IMO. The "Sentry Peak" books, for example, would have been rather better as straight Civil War novels. -DES Talk 16:20, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
The Turtletaubs sell a tenth as any as the Turtledoves. Which is why the semipseudo, the stupid ordering algorithms of the chains. He also can write better alt-hist when he wants to but with four college age daughters doesn't seem to want to take the time. Can't really blame him. Dana Carson 04:32, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
It figures, and it would be hard to argue that he should do more work for less money. Ah well. -DES Talk 23:02, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
I think it's a fairly safe bet that Hippocrates didn't have four daughters in college when he said "Ars longa, vita brevis"... Ahasuerus 22:26, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Dickson's Forward!

Just a note that I have added a note and an excerpt from Patrick Tilley's Cloud Warrior to your verified Forward! pub. Ahasuerus 21:45, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

People Of Pern

You verified BKTG20463 but no mention is made of Anne McCaffrey as an author. She wrote the introduction and all text. Robin Wood did all the art. Both are listed as holding copyright. I did not change the publication.--Bluesman 19:55, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

One of the earliest ones I did. I was not anywhere as thorough. Thanks, updated. Dana Carson 08:31, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Skies Of Pern

Added $C price to SKIEOPERN2001B and in my copy, also a first edition, the publishing info says April 2001, but the record is missing the month. I did not change it.--Bluesman 02:23, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Picked mine up at a used book store. Looking at it it has to be a book club edition, no price, no pub date, 35025 on back cover. Please clone it and make one for your actual edition and I'll update this one to SFBC. Dana Carson 08:42, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

People of Pern

Just to let you know that User:Bluesman has added a Publication record for the SFBC version of People of Pern. His Publication-specific Note reads:

"With Text And Introduction By Anne McCaffrey" from front cover and title page. Robin Wood did all exterior and interior artwork.
Edition is copyrighted in both names.

so he added McCaffrey as a co-author. Could you please check your verified Donning/Starblaze edition of the book to see if we want to add McCaffrey both to the pub and to the Title record? Thanks! Ahasuerus 04:44, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Oh, I see that Bluesman left you a note about it earlier yesterday! Ahasuerus 04:46, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

The Yngling and the Circle of Power

A random thought: is it "Lunar Calendat of the Wolf Clan (& Others)" or "Lunar Calendar of the Wolf Clan (& Others)" in your verified The Yngling and the Circle of Power? Ahasuerus 17:30, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

My typo not theirs. Fixed. Dana Carson 00:23, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Mission to the Heart Stars

In checking this. [4] . My copy has an Introduction by Elisabeth Blish pg 7. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 22:01, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Good catch. Looks like I thinkoed and duplicated the numbering from The Star Dwellers. Added and fixed. Thanks. Dana Carson 00:24, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Limit Of Vision

Added $C price to LMTOVSION2001 . Perfect timing, too as , being a moderator, you can answer a question brought up by Dragoondelight (Harry). I had added the $C price to a couple of pubs he had verified and he suggested that I do a Transient Verification, as I had checked the data. This might be a good idea as then there are two sources for follow-up, but I thought the transient was for a book no longer in hand or data obtained from an outside source not otherwise listed in the Verification table of options. This brings up another point: if I verify as a Primary and then sell/give/lose the book, should I delete myself as a Primary, and then do the Transient? --Bluesman 17:01, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

I see you know Harry! I have learned how to do the links to titles/publications, but how is the one for another user/editor/moderator done? Very handy...--Bluesman 17:07, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Fallen Angels

Added $C price to FLLNNGLS1991 and will do a Transient Verification of this pub (DES had already posted that you were using this as a secondary source on a pub where I added a $C).--Bluesman 19:11, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

Project Jove / The Hunters of Jundagai updated

FYI, I have added a note clarifying how long each novel is to your verified Project Jove / The Hunters of Jundagai publication; also changed the Title dates of the novels from 1971-00-00 to 1971-08-00 as per the existing note. Ahasuerus 04:05, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Singers of Time

Added $C price to SNGRSTM1991A --Bluesman 17:08, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

For the ones where you are just adding $C pricing you don't need to tell me. Do keep telling me where I overlooked something. Keeps me honest. Dana Carson
Okay. You are on the list! --Bluesman 00:28, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Listen! The Stars/The Rebellers

Was about to do a Transient Verification on LSTNTSTS1963 and found signatures on both covers: EMSH on the Brunner (about 1 1/4" from the left right at the bottom) and GAUGHAN (assume Jack, but this isn't his usual JG initials; directly below the left ship on the Roberts' cover). Added these to the pub record.--Bluesman 23:37, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. You have some combination of better eyes and a less beatup copy. Dana Carson 02:40, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
I cheat... magnifying glass!--Bluesman 00:27, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Borderlands of Science

Added $C price to BDLNDSCN1999 . There are no roman numerals on any of the front pages. Is it common practice to add them up and assign such a number? Why would this only apply to the "contents" pages?--Bluesman 00:25, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

I have no idea. Applying roman numerals to unnumbered preface matter is allowed such as Introductions etc., but why I did it for the TOC puzzles me. Removed. Dana Carson 11:10, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

Earthman's Burden

This. [5] . You list an interior illustration page six. I have no illustration there. The page six by count is blank and should have had an illustration as the other stories did. Page 5 is contents. Page 4 is copyright & acknowledgments page. Page 3 is a title page. Page 2 is two author bios. Page 1 is the same illustration as page 64. Front cover page interior is the illustration from page 158. Back cover page interior is page 64 illustration and by count 192 is page 158 illustration again. I reluctantly must admit to a page miscount, or page removal or my copy differs with no illustration on page 6. Could you please check and confirm differences. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 15:35, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Good catch. After I checked page numbers for stories I must have had a thinko that they all had a facing illustration. Since it says these are the original illustrations an art merge might be in order. What do you think? Dana Carson 11:08, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
Please no merge. I just got the book, but the illustrations are great and by noting there position with the relevant title you have assured other readers will make these connections. I too believe that somehow the first title should have had an illustration. My interpretation is that the art was original and 'specific' to the individual story publications, so pairing them to the story works well. I did similar with a serial reprint of stories into one book. In fact, I am curious if there is more artwork for these stories.
I have a favorite short story that was illustrated like a comic book and the end line that the illustrator added actually made the story zing. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 12:28, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
There was probably a gap between getting page numbers and entering the data. The stories are favorites and I did a bit of rereading I think. If you look at the illustrations listed for the artist he illustrated the stories in the magazine first editions. So I think they are the same pictures. Need someone that has the magazines to upload scans to compare to be sure of course. And hardly a major problem, very few art merges. If you enjoyed the stories get Star Prince Charlie and the other Hoka stories also. Dana Carson 08:21, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

I have Star Prince Charlie and did not make the connection. I have them on my list to gets. Awfully long list though. LOL. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 12:13, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Your verified Denner's Wreck

I added a cover image to your verified Denner's Wreck, copied from the author's web site. -DES Talk 21:36, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

That's the one. Dana Carson 01:11, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

As The Green Star Rises-printing date

This. [6] . My pardon but my very faded copy is a 4th edition, but I do not understand how you arrived at the date you did. Is it possible you intended to 0000-00-00 it? Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 13:20, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

For a while we tried an idea of for undated reprints using the first printing date with the day being the printing number. Didn't work out but there are some that didn't get changed back. Thanks for the double check. Hopefully at some point we'll get printing number support. Dana Carson 22:05, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
I realized that about two books further on my list. I had not heard it termed printing number support, but that does sound much better than ZEROS. LOL. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 00:50, 14 November 2008 (UTC)


And I thought book collecting was a full-time addiction! LOL!! Added an interior art in the contents for PLMTHPPVBP1974 for the frontispiece, in this case, also by DiFate. Cheers!--Bluesman 01:16, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

David Brin's The River of Time

Can you double-check the story titles in your verified pub of this collection? I have a submission on hold which attempts to change several of the titles. The only other verified edition is by Scott Latham who hasn't been around lately. Some of the changes match Scott's edition, but there are a few that contradict those in your edition. Thanks. MHHutchins 07:08, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Noticed this as I was leaving a note. I have this same edition and the only difference I can see between the record and the book is that there is no hyphen between "Tank" & "Farm" = "Tank Farm Dynamo." However, there are four sections to the book, titled DESTINY (first three stories); RECOLLECTION (second three stories): SPECULATION (third set of three stories) and PROPAGATION (last two stories).--Bluesman 18:21, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Master of the World

Just did a transient on MSTRFTWL1961 and have a question about the way the contents are shown: should "Master of the World" in english be used instead of "Maître le Monde" and the french put in parentheses as with "Robur the Conqueror"? This would be consistent and also match how the story is listed in the book. Also, should the title add " Including Robur the Conqueror" as this is what is on the title page? Cheers! --Bluesman 18:13, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

The subtitle should be in there. The rest maybe should be taken to help so we get a consensus. Dana Carson 18:38, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
Actually, in this case parentheses merely designate a Variant Title :) As per Help:How to enter foreign editions, "For works that were originally written in a foreign language, the canonical title is the title of the work as it appeared in that language. If one or more English language translations of the title have been published, then they should be entered as Variant Titles."
Verne's Titles are currently set up correctly -- see his Summary page -- but the series information is all wrong. We are using a "publication series" instead of the real series (e.g. the 3 Nemo/Grant books) that Verne used. Ahasuerus 21:47, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Verne's Master of the World

Bluesman has added a note to your verified edition of this title. Also, can you check to see if the French title is used in the omnibus, or did someone mistakenly merge the titles after your verification? Thanks. MHHutchins 22:51, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Cetaganda--page count?

This. [7] . I am sorry, and this probably is a mistake on my part, but my copy does not have the same page count, yet otherwise is exact. Here is what I see. Page 302 last pagination of novel. 6 pages not paginated, but actual count gives 'chronological' item page 304. 'A Preview From Memory' title page , but not actual start page of excerpt, is on actual count page of 307. Excerpt starts on page 1 of a separate enumeration of 1-38. Your count says 347 pages. My count is 302 + 6 + 38 = 346. Which is actual count from first paginated page. I thought it would be 302+38, or 308+38 or 346 or 302[6]38 or [6]302[6]38 (vendor count). I bring this up only because I must have missed something about additional page counts and it will bug me if I did not bring it up. At the same time feel free to not reply to this overlong inquiry. Apologies again. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 15:38, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

Ashes of Victory-page count & price?

This. [8]. Could you please check your copy's price and page count. Mine is $25.00 and Canadian C$37.00 and page count is 560. Page count is easy to miss as the page sticks and it is only three lines or so. The price is probably a typing error. If not, we have different versions. Apologies for the bother. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 15:03, 16 December 2008 (UTC) Submitted corrections. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 12:21, 24 July 2009 (UTC)

The Curse of Chalion-date and page count?

Apologies, I assure you I am not 'dogging' you. This. [9] . Could you please check your copy. My says "First Eos hardcover printing August 2001" and my page count is 442. The two is printed 'up' and looks like a top loop for an eight or three. Sorry again for the bother. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 15:40, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Interstellar Patrol II-title difference on story title page

This. [10] . Very super job on this verification. "Riddle Me This"... is Riddle Me This... on page 25. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 14:11, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Critical Explorations in Science Fiction and Fantasy

Lookup and add the books from Critical Explorations in Science Fiction and Fantasy. Dana Carson 02:24, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

Virtual Destruction

Added a couple of notes to VTDR1996 re: original Ace publication; full number line and the usual C$ price. Cheers! ~Bill, --Bluesman 01:29, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

The Avatar

I have a question about the note to your verified pub THVTRDSBWS1979. Is the picture beside the pub record the cover for the first or third printing? I have an identical book except for the logo but the price is the same as the verified pub. The copyright page has no number line and just says "Berkley Edition / October 1979, which is usually how Berkley did their first printings. The logo on my copy is just SF and the price is $2.25. Thanks! ~Bill, --Bluesman 03:29, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

All I found on Amazon was a 3rd edition cover scan. So the price and some of the logo is different thatn my edition but the main picture is the same as the 1st edition. If you want to scan and upload a correct image feel free. Dana Carson 04:13, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
Unfortunately, no scanner, as yet. But now I understand your notes and will just do a transient for now. I have a lot of time right now and might get a scanner up and running before too long, then we can check that it matches your copy and amend the notes accordingly. Much thanks! ~Bill, --Bluesman 23:28, 30 December 2008 (UTC)


Just entered a new pub record cloned from PRGRNSTRWS1978 and then realized they may be the same pub. Your verified pub states 2nd printing. Are you sure it doesn't say 'Second Ace Edition' with the publishing date the same at February 1978? If so I will delete the second entry and do a transient on yours, or you can delete yours and verify the one I put in. Thanks! ~Bill, --Bluesman 04:52, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

You're right. Mine is a Second Ace. You have better notes, deleted mine. Dana Carson 23:26, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

Star Prince Charlie

FYI, User:Bluesman has replaced the following note:

The cover art is uncredited, but signed; the signature is illegible. Amazon claims Vincent DiFate as artist, signature does seem to start with a V. DCarson


The cover art is uncredited, but signed; the signature (under magnification) is legible. Amazon claims Vincent DiFate as artist.

in Mike Christie's verified Star Prince Charlie. Ahasuerus 21:13, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Fine with me. Either better eyes or better magnifier than me. Dana Carson 23:46, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
My apologies, Dana, left a note for Mike Christie and just forgot to leave one with you. I've seen a lot of Di Fate's scrawl over the past couple of months, plus I just love finding signatures. EMSH is sooooo sneaky, like a 'Where's Waldo" hunt. Cheers! --Bluesman 17:55, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Lucky Starr & the Oceans of Venus

Found Pepper's signature on the cover of LCKSTRRNDD1972 so deleted that part of your note and added "artist not credited; signature on the cover" (bottom right corner, on the edge of the green area). Cheers! ~Bill, --Bluesman 18:00, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Virtually the same situation with LCKSTRRNDT1972, this time the signature is about half way up on the right side, just adjacent to the arm. Cheers! ~Bill, --Bluesman 18:07, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

A Princess of the Aerie

I approved an update by Bluesman to your verified A Princess of the Aerie to replace the note "Amazon 01/03" with "Stated first PB edition; full number line. / $9.99 in Canada." --Marc Kupper|talk 23:10, 4 January 2009 (UTC)

Heart of the Comet

Added some notes to HOTC1987 about the edition/printing and the credited interior illustrations plus three extra prices. Also entered the illustrations in the content. Cheers! ~Bill, --Bluesman 23:58, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

The River of Time

I was going to do a transient verification of TROT1987 and noticed a couple of small things: Tank Farm Dynamo has no hyphen in the table of contents or in the text; the original title of "The River of Time", "Coexistence" also has no hyphen in the copyright page's listing of the stories. I have read the author's notes for "A Stage of Memory" and while Brin states that the story was suggested by his brother and that "This is his story, as much as mine." he doesn't say anything about co-writing. Was there another source for co-authorship? I am going to add a note about the existence of the Author's Notes after each story, but not list them in the contents, as well as the usual $C price. Pretty certain we have the same copy but I'll wait until I hear from you. Cheers! ~Bill, --Bluesman 01:04, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Interstellar Empire

Added a couple of notes to NTRSTLLRMP1976 re:DAW Books No. and included the spine #. Cheers! ~Bill, --Bluesman 20:06, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

The Hunters of Jundagai/Project Jove

Added an interior art for the Project Jove 1/2 of PRJJVHJND1971, the small piece by Gaughan, and a note that both covers are credited to Freas. ~Bill, --Bluesman 20:46, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Approved. --Marc Kupper|talk 22:04, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

The Key to Venudine/Mercenary From Tomorrow

Added interior art to both halves of KYTVNMRC1968 and completed the notes to separate the cover credits, Ace's printing designations, page counts. Cheers! ~Bill, --Bluesman 21:08, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Approved. --Marc Kupper|talk 22:06, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Pretty much the same for CRDLWZSN1969. ~Bill, --Bluesman 21:26, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Approved. --Marc Kupper|talk 22:06, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

Half Life

Added a couple of notes to HLFLF2000. Changed the artist to "The Chopping Block" as the cover is the same as the HC which does credit them. The usual $C price and that it's a first printing by the number line. ~Bill, --Bluesman 17:38, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

David Starr, Space Ranger

Found Pepper's signature on the cover of DVDSTRRSPC1971 so amended your notes. --Bluesman 22:06, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Approved. Dana Carson 22:29, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

Fallen Angels [2]

Added a couple of notes to FLLNNGLS1991 as to printing and the artist. ~Bill, --Bluesman 20:32, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

Singers of Time [2]

Added some notes to SNGRSTM1991A about edition/printing/artist credit. ~Bill, --Bluesman 04:39, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

The Winged Man

Added a cover image to THWNGDMNLG1967 and a publication note. ~Bill, --Bluesman 05:49, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Master of the World [2]

Added a cover image to MSTRFTWL1961. ~Bill, --Bluesman 22:15, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

The High Crusade

Added a cover image to THHGHCRSDM1978 ~Bill, --Bluesman 01:04, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

All of the last three look right. Dana Carson 21:53, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Trader to the Stars

Added a cover image to TRDRTTHSTR1976. Plus I found Powers' signature on the cover (bottom right corner) and added that to the field and notes. On my copy the total signature is cut off, only "Powers La" is visible. Perhaps yours shows more? ~Bill, --Bluesman 18:43, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Approved. Will look it over later to see. Dana Carson 21:52, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

The Vorkosigan Companion

I would like to document the contents of your verified pub The Vorkosigan Companion. Please let me know if that's OK, otherwise I will clone your publication and enter the contents there. Thanks Kevin 09:37, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Feel free. Dana Carson 22:19, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
I have submitted the pub update with the following note. If you could check in a few days (Or whenever you get around to it) to enter print edition page numbers and to check that one TOC question, once it gets out of my pending queue (which at last check was probably 180+ items long so the Mod approval could be a while) it would be much appreciated.

<P>Contents entered from a Baen electronic edition. Placeholder page numbers entered until actual page numbers can be confirmed.

<P>"Putting It Together: Life, the Vorkosiverse, and Everything" is listed on the copyright page as "Putting It All Together: Life, the Vorkosiverse, and Everything"

<P>"Biology in the Vorkosiverse and Today" is credited on the TOC as by 'Tora K. Smulders-Srinivasan, Ph.D.' but on the copyright page as simply 'Tora K. Smulders-Srinivasan'.

<P>"Come for the Bujold, Stay for the Beer: Science Fiction Writers as Occasions of Fandom" is listed on the (electronic) table of contents as "Come for the Bujold, Stay for the Beer^1: Science Fiction Writers as Occasions of Fandom" with a footnote reference in the printed title, but the copyright page omits the footnote reference from the title of the work. Entered here without the footnote reference, until the presence or absence of the footnote on the printed TOC can be determined.

<P>The last three works, are a combination of essay, charts, and graphs. As such they have been credited as both Essay and Interior Artwork. Additionally, the preceding 'APPENDIX #' has been omitted from the titles of these works.

Thanks Kevin 23:22, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
Update approved. I'm not sure how the 1 to 24 page number helps in this case because when Dcarson edits to fill in the page numbers the list is sorted by title. Thus I suspect if the order of the stories is not important that it's easier to deal with the publication without the numbering. I've seen some anthologies that had a threaded story format and thus the order matters. --Marc Kupper|talk 02:08, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
In this particular book, the articles are grouped into sections of 3-4 items all with a common theme or source (which you can't see without having two levels of contents in the ISFDB). As to what do the numbers get me, It let me enter the numbers when I was typing them in order... then I cloned the book. This saved me the step of hunting and figuring out the correct order after I cloned it for the ebook edition. (shrug) - Thanks for the approval. Kevin 02:36, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
If a publication has a particularly complex table of contents then I document it in the publication record's wiki notes where we have better editing/viewing tools. I then add a publication note pointing out that the details are available as people are likely to miss the blue link vs. the usual red one. Thanks for the explanation of the numbering. I just wanted to make sure we did not start a trend of numbering dead-tree publication contents just so the contents are in the right order. There will be exceptions such a publication with no page numbers (dead tree or ebook) and numbering makes perfect sense for those. --Marc Kupper|talk 07:17, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for updating with actual page numbers. It is VERY much appreciated. Kevin 07:23, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Ragged edge of science

Added the month of publication, from AMAZON, to THRGGDDGFS1980 --Bluesman 21:06, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Vorpal Blade Afterword

Would you object to a few changes to the Travis Taylor afterword in Vorpal Blade? I want to change the title from "On the Particle Physics in This Work of Fiction" to "Afterword: On the Particle Physics in This Work of Fiction (Vorpal Blade)" and the author credit to the as shown "Doc" Travis S. Taylor. I would also like to append (Vorpal Blade) to the title of Ringo's afterword. Thoughts? Kevin 19:41, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Changing the author seems fine. I only tack the (work name) on afterwords that don't have a subtitle so you don't end up with a long list of Afterword that you can't tell apart. Same with putting afterword on something that doesn't have it. Although you can read it as a afterword with two sections, so OK change the physics one. Tacking the (work name) on might be worth bringing up on the standards page. Dana Carson 22:59, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
Just to be clear, You concur with the name change and adding 'afterword' to the Taylor afterword, and non-concur on adding (work name) to either afterwords? Kevin 05:54, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Yes. Dana Carson 10:27, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Submitted. Thanks! Kevin 23:24, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
I accepted the submission but had to change "Doc" to 'Doc'. For some reason I don't understand, the system can't accept double quotation marks in the author field. Hope this compromise works. Imagine the problems with "Doc" Smith's pubs! MHHutchins 23:35, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Quotes are considered "special" characters in Python, our primary programming language, and have to be handled in a special way (aka "escaping"). Al has added special logic to "escape" them in other fields, but the Author field has, ahem, escaped escaping so far ;-) Ahasuerus 23:39, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. I recommend you do a name search for DOC. You will see that somehow a "Doc" did make it in for E.E. Smith but the link to the author doesn't work. There may be some works there that need corrected. (I had wondered if "Doc" would work so I had already looked, but never tried clicking on the author link to get the non working page). Kevin 23:55, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

1634: The Baltic War

Your verified pub Baltic War doesn't have an entry for Maps. Would you be okay with me adding a record for Randy Asplund's maps to this record? Thanks Kevin 01:21, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Sure. Surprised I didn't, I like maps. Dana Carson 22:52, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
Submitted. Thanks! Kevin 23:26, 9 February 2009 (UTC)


Added a cover image and edition/printing notes to SUPERMEN2002 ~Bill, --Bluesman 18:50, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Martian Race

Added a cover image to MRTNRACE1999 ~Bill, --Bluesman 05:25, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Rider at the Gate

Added a cover image to BKTG23248 ~Bill, --Bluesman 00:11, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Grantville Gazette - The or no The

Your verified pub The Grantville Gazette, I think has the wrong title. 'The' was used only in the original electronic edition with Ruben as the cover artist. All later electronic editions, and paper volumes dropped 'The' to my understanding. My first printing of this work has 'Grantville Gazette' on the copyright line, and 'Grantville Gazette' with 'Volume 1' underneath as a sub title. (Note all later volumes go with roman numbering on the title page). I am working on organizing and updating all the gazettes at the moment (e-Magazine Pub, HC Pub, Ebook Pub, and Paperback Pub) so this jumped out at me. Could you please check your copy for a 'The' and if verified, could you add a note to the pub about the subtitle 'Volume 1'. I don't think we need to add it to the pub title, since the later II, III, IV, etc titles make it clear whats going on. Thanks Kevin 02:11, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

I have removed the "The" from the title, as well as made other changes. See my notes below. AndonSage 19:31, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Grantville Gazette Prefaces (And Afterwords)

Please visit my talkpage at User_talk:Kpulliam#Grantville_Gazette_Prefaces_.28And_Afterwords.29 to weigh in on this issue. You verified at least one pub that I am proposing a change to to standardize the Gazettes. Thanks Kevin 00:12, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Key to Irunium

Added some notes and interior artwork to KTRNMWTL1967 ~Bill, --Bluesman 18:57, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Ragged edge of science [2]

Added a cover image to [[11]]. --Bluesman 16:37, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

March Upcountry and March to the Sea

I updated your verified pub MRCHUPC2001 with a few title notes, and added the maps credited to John Ringo at the end, and put in coverart. Thanks Kevin 21:22, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

I made similar changes to your verified pub MRCHTTHS2001. Thanks Kevin 21:45, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

Borderlands of Science (Redux)

I added a page number of 1 to the primary work in this book BDLNDSCN1999, so the 'book' itself will show up as contents in addition to the Introduction. Feel free to remove it if you feel it to be incorrect. (The title page for the total work is actually 2 pages previous, but since the introduction is after the begining of the book I didn't think it accurate to imply that the main work began on a BP page, but the introduction occured after.) Thanks - Kevin 21:03, 3 March 2009 (UTC)

The Avatar [2]

Finally got back to this one and scanned the correct cover [[12]] and deleted the note. ~Bill, --Bluesman 19:07, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Beyond the Beyond

Added a cover image to [[13]] ~Bill, --Bluesman 19:23, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Earthman's Burden [2]

Scanned and loaded a clearer image for [[14]] and cleaned up the notes a little. ~Bill, --Bluesman 23:19, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

Kinship With the Stars

Added a cover image to [[15]] ~Bill, --Bluesman 04:39, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Vorpal Blade

I updated the notes and dates on your verified pub VRPLBLDLKN2007 - Thanks - Kevin 05:38, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

The Stars are Also Fire

Added a cover image and notes to [[16]] ~Bill, --Bluesman 23:14, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Over the Wine-Dark Sea (Updated)

I updated your verified pub VRTWNDRKS2001 with a map credit and some notes based on my copy in hand. Thanks - Kevin 04:22, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

The Wolf Worlds---added cover/notation

Morning. This. [17] . I added a cover and notation that matches my copy to your ver. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 13:05, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Revenge of the Damned-- added cover/notation

This. [18] . I added a cover image and notation matching my copy to your ver. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 13:43, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

The Return of the Emperor--- added cover/notation

This. [19] . I added cover and notation in matching my copy to your ver. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 13:54, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Empire's End-- added notation.

Finally the end of the series!. This. [20]. I added notation and start page number. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 14:13, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Ashes of Victory + War of Honor + At All Costs

I made several changes to your verified pub ASHESOFVIC2000. I have a first printing per the number line edition in hand. I changed price from $24 to $25. I changed pages from 559 to 560. I also added Peddicort's Map, Islers 10 pages of schematics, as well as the afterword (since it contains some corrections to some other works). Thanks - Kevin 06:00, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

I made similar additions of notes and Maps to WRFHNR2002 - Thanks - Kevin 06:36, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

I made similar additions to TLLCSTSTHH2005 of notes, Map, Afterword (It documents the reason and source for some quotes) and then the Glossary and Character list in order to show that the afterword wasn't almost 30 pages long. Thanks - Kevin 06:51, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Off Armageddon Reef

I updated your verified pub FFRMGDDNRF2007. I updated the pages, removed the 'day' of publication, added the maps, and added a variety of notes. - Thanks Kevin 18:17, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Insurrection & Crusade

I updated your verified pub BKTG19421 with cover artist, cover art, notes, and a month of publication. Thanks Kevin 19:03, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

I updated your verified pub BKTG19413 with notes, month of publication, and changed the cover art to version w/out white sidebars. Thanks Kevin 19:12, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Escape from Loki

I added some notes to your verified pub about the second printing and information on Locus1. Willem H. 19:44, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

The Star of Life -- cover image

I added this image to your verified THSTRFLFGJ1959 that matches my copy of the same edition. --MartyD 01:41, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Flight in Yiktor

Cover art and notes added to your verified pub BKTG12610 Thanks Kevin 20:39, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

The Dragon Master / The Five Gold Bands

I updated your verified pub DRGNMFVGB1972 with cover art, notes, cover art credit, month of publication, and ISBN derived from SBN to activate Amazon/Abebooks/Alibris links. Kevin 03:02, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Fallen Angels

Could you please check your copy of Fallen Angels to see if Michael Flynn is shown with a middle initial 'F.' in any of the following locations? (Cover, Spine, Title page, Copyright page, or signature for Acknowledgments at the end). My mmpb (2004) and my HC re-release (2002) and the ebook from Baens free Library all leave off the 'F.' middle initial in all locations. Thanks - Kevin 19:41, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Bluesman confirmed that there is no 'F.' in his copy of the same printing. Just FYI, I am going to change the Title, your verified printings, and other unverified printings to remove the 'F.' from the Title and Contents records. - Thanks Kevin 20:53, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Tarzan artist credits?

Hi. As part of consolidating some Richard Powers and Dick Powers cover credits (see Richard Powers vs. Dick Powers and Dick and Richard Powers title variants), we discovered the use of "Dick Powers" was with one exception limited exclusively to various Ballantine Tarzan reprints. There are a couple of Tarzan titles crediting "Richard Powers" instead, including your verified Tarzan and the Madman and Tarzan and the Castaways from 1974. 1974's later than the mid-60s editions crediting "Dick Powers", but would you mind humoring my curiosity and checking the artist credit on those if you have them near to hand? There's another edition of Tarzan and the Madman verified by Gloinson, so I'll go pester him, too. :-) Thanks. --MartyD 01:26, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Myth Conceptions

I added Cover art and to your verified pub MTHCNCPTNS1980 I was also able to determine the printing date (listed in the 2nd printing) Thanks --Rtrace 12:46, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Myth-Told Tales

I have a question about your verified pub MTHTLDTLSR2007. I have the Meisha Merlin publication, MYTHTLDTLS2003, and Robert Asprin is listed as "Robert Lynn Asprin" on the title page, despite being listed as "Robert Asprin" on the cover. If his name is similarly listed in your copy, it changes what I need to do to get the publications in shape. Could you please let me know if "Lynn" is included in his name on the title page of your pub. Thanks. --Rtrace 03:17, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Title page is Robert Asprin. Only place I see Robert Lynn Asprin is his forward, that he signs Robert Lynn Asprin. Dana Carson 06:59, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for looking. I made the stories in my copy variants.--Rtrace 11:59, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Engaging the Enemy

I updated the notes on Engaging the Enemy Thanks Kevin 02:13, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Knight's Wyrd- added cover/notation

Morning. This. [21]. I added a cover image and notation matching my copy to your ver. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 14:15, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Crashing Suns

Added a cover image and notes to [[22]]--Bluesman 04:48, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

Robert Asprin's Myth Books

I've added cover art to two of your verified pubs NTHRFNMTHP1978 and BKTG09729.

Additionally, I noticed an issue with these two pubs and one other that you had verified, MTHDRCTNSK1982. In all these cases, I believe we have the wrong variant of Asprin's name listed on the publication. For both Another Fine Myth and Hit or Myth, the author for these pubs is listed as "Robert Lynn Asprin". My copies of each of these lists the author on the title page as "Robert Asprin". I should note that I've got an asumed 1st printing of AFM and a 2nd printing of HOM (same price and ISBN as the first). It doensn't look like these are currently variants, so I believe we can edit the author's name in place. I'll gladly do the edits, with your OK, unless you'd rather do them yourself.

Myth Directions is a little trickier. I'm working from a 5th printing which has a record separate from yours. All the Donning/Starblaze pubs list the author as "Robert Asprin". However, my copy has him as "Robert L. Asprin" on both the title page and the cover. I'm going to proceed with unmerging the pubs, changing the name and making them variants and I'll happily do your verified pub too, but I wanted to get your OK first.

It seems Asprin used 3 different variants of his name, and I've got 3 more pubs verified by someone else that need correcting as well as one that happily isn't verified yet.--Rtrace 00:22, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Burroughs' Savage Pellucidar

Can you check to see if the first story in this collection has a "The" in the title ("The Return to Pellucidar") as does the original magazine title? Also does your printing have a Frank Frazetta frontispiece drawing like the first Ace printing? Thanks. MHHutchins 19:07, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Yes to both. Updated. Dana Carson 08:13, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
Also added a cover image. Dana Carson 08:32, 29 April 2009 (UTC)

Epilogue (Tales of the Flying Mountains)

In unmerging the epilogue to Tales of the Flying Mountains from the story Epilogue and remerging the result, the page number for the epilogue in [23] and [24] (you verified both) got lost. I have submitted the page number again (I own a copy of the second printing), but I think you should know about the title change. Thanks Willem H. 22:16, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

The Yngling in Yamato-- added notation/ deleted artists middle initial

Afternoon!. This. [25] . I added notation and deleted the middle initial of "David Miller" to reflect the copyright page. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 21:30, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

The Key to Irunium / The Wandering Tellurian

I replaced a broken cover image for your verified pub KTRNMWTL1967. Thanks --Rtrace 03:12, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Hoka or Hoka! -- artists

Good afternoon. This. [26] . First. I match you to everything but title, which is arguable, but I will not. Second, your note on interior artist. I believe we match copies and my copy has "Acknowledgments" at bottom of copyright page. The interior artista are "Joy in Mudville" Victoria Poyser. This is VPoyser with VP looking like an M or sometimes she uses a very open V like a butterfly, some of those have been cut of by the copiers. "Undiplomatic Immunity" Nicoal Cuti. Her signature is Cuti looks like Cutt sometimes. "Full Pack (Hokas Wild)" is Lela Dowling. Signature not found by me, but drawings are similar and her women are great! "The Napoleon Crime" Phil Foglio. Page 177 has a "©PFoglio". No other problems with your ver that I can see. Check this. [27] by RTrace. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 20:47, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

The Star Dwellers

Just a note that I have changed the spelling of James Blish's "Foreword" to "Forward" in your verified 1982 Avon edition of The Star Dwellers and the date from 1982-02-00 to 1961-00-00. I also expanded the associated Note to read "1st printing as per number line. LCCN 81-68857. Cover art not credited, but clearly signed "Rowena". "Forward" (spelled thus) is dated 1961 on page 7, but the copyright page says "Introduction Copyright @ 1982 by Avon Books"." Ahasuerus 20:28, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Tarzan Books

I added a cover image to your verified pub TRZNTRM1964. Thanks --Rtrace 02:56, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

also TRZNCG1964--Rtrace 03:03, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

A Fire Upon the Deep - a different look

Morning!. This is yours. [28] . This is mine. [29] . First I added this notation. "Maps by Elissa Mitchell. Should be Ellisa Mitchell. One not titled map on page opposite page 1 with signature "Ellisa Martin, 1991" at bottom right." I did not make a Martin entry, but I did change to the correct spelling. You are showing "Elissa Michell" which adds a misspelling of Mitchell to the mix. My second problem is either an 'actual' difference or a difference in 'opinion'. You are listing an "unititled Forward", I have this "Not titled "Acknowledgments" before pagination with signature "-V.V." for Vernor Vinge." I read the above carefully and find it as stated and deleted the 'Forward' that was originally in my 'contents'. This is an FYI of what I encountered. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 11:33, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Fixed the typo in the name and added a note about the difference in the signature. Dana Carson 03:52, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Guardians of Time

Added a note to [[30]] re: additional story and afterword. --Bluesman 02:57, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

World of Null-A

I added cover image to your verified pub of this title. I also added the imprint "Medallion" to the publisher field, and removed the "uncredited" from the cover artist field, placing that into the notes field. Thanks. MHHutchins 22:07, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

The Passing of Gloria Munday

I've added cover image to your verified copy of this title. Could you check to see if the "Medallion" imprint is used on the book's title page, or is it "Berkley Books" as the record shows. Thanks. MHHutchins 05:12, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Berkley Medallion Books. Updated. Thanks. Dana Carson 05:39, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

The Purple Pterodactyls

I added the cover artist and a note to this verified pub. Thanks Willem H. 19:43, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Tarzan and the Leopard Men

I added a cover image to your verified pub TRZLEOPM1964. Thanks --Rtrace 02:02, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Outlaws of Mars[2]

Added notes to [this] and scanned in an image. --Bluesman 23:54, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Master Mind of Mars/Fighting Man of Mars

Added a cover image to [this] and a note re: gutter code. --Bluesman 22:29, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Wizard of Venus

Added a cover image to [this] The missing Krenkel interior art was not added until the second ACE printing. Altered the note to reflect that. ~Bill, --Bluesman 20:12, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Black Legion of Callisto

Added the artist to [this] from OCLC. --Bluesman 03:34, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

Tama Light Country

Added a cover image to [this]--Bluesman 23:09, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Also an mage to [this]--Bluesman 23:14, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Purple Pterodactyls [2]

Added a cover image to [this], a little small, but a decent placeholder. --Bluesman 16:09, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

City Under the Sea - added notation/cover artist

Afternoon! This. [31]. I added notation and cover identification from my copy to your ver. Cover artist from 'sigil' at bottom right front cover. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 19:52, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Added notes

I added print line info and Canadian price to your verified [32].Don Erikson 21:58, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Command Decision

I put in better cover art for Command Decision thanks Kevin 01:08, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

The Wizard of Venus - added notation/essay

Morning!. This. [33]. I added notation, namely the publication date from the copyright page of the second printing. Also added the essay by Richard Lupoff on page 1 in my copy. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 15:09, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

Vance's The Deadly Isles

Vance's website bibliography dates this Ace pb as 1971. MHHutchins

Thanks. Updated, there was a hardback from Bobbs-Merril and apparently a 3 in 1 from the Detective Bookclub in 1969 it looks like. Dana Carson 20:43, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
Yes, I added the Bobbs-Merril edition at the same time I noticed the dating for this paperback. I'll have to look for more information on the Detective Bookclub edition. Thanks. MHHutchins 21:08, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Back to the Future - added cover image/notation

Afternoon!. This. [34]. I added a cover image and notation matching my copy to your ver. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 23:00, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

Neutronium Alchemist Part 1

I updated the title of Alchemist: Part 1 to read "Part 1: Consolidation" instead of "Part 1 - Consolidation". My first printing in hand does not have a dash, but has a colon. Assumed to be a data entry typo. Thanks Kevin 03:26, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Travelling vs. Traveling with the Dead

Your verified pub Travelling with the Dead has the 'two ell' version of the title, but Locus lists that as the UK Variant title. Likely this error dates back to initial entry into the database as the locus poll award in our system is credited to the 'two ell' version. I've cleaned up the record and made the US title the parent, but left your 'two ell' version under the american parent. Please double check your copy and see if it has 1 ell or 2. Also please check the cover artist attribution. Locus has 'Victor', and the paperback has nothing, while your record has 'Wictor'. Because of the vampire / eastern european connection, I could believe either version. - Thanks Kevin 03:47, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Yes, one l. The dustjacket has Jacket painting: Wictor Sadowski, Jacket design: David Stevenson. Dana Carson 09:08, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Added printing note

I added a note to your verified [35] that is is a 2nd printing.Don Erikson 18:28, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Skeen's Leap - added cover image

Afternoon! This [36]. I dropped a cover image on your ver after matching my copy to it. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 19:22, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Adam Link - Robot

Just an FYI that I have changed your verified 3rd printing of the Warner Paperback Library edition of Adam Link - Robot from "Otto Binder" to "Eando Binder" to match the cover. Ahasuerus 23:23, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Lucky Starr & Rings of Saturn

Scanned in an image and massaged the notes for [this]. ~BIll, --Bluesman 15:05, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Sky Pirates of Callisto

Verified the artist for [this] from book in hand. ~Bill, --Bluesman 18:33, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

The Singers of Time - added cover/note on cover

Afternoon! This. [37]. I added a cover image and added a small note on cover after matching my copy to your ver. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 20:06, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

When the Green Star Calls

Expanded the notes slightly and scanned in a new image for [this] ~Bill, --Bluesman 14:51, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Agent of the Terran Empire

Expanded the notes for [this] ~Bill, --Bluesman 02:59, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

The Sorceress of Scath

Just a note that I have cross-verified The Sorceress of Scath and added Notes. I also changed the page count from xi+243 to xi+241 since the last numbered page is 241. Ahasuerus 04:02, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Brain Twister

It would appear that your verified Pyramid book edition of Brain Twister as by Randall Garrett and Laurence M. Janifer is the same as Kraang's verified edition as by "Mark Phillips" which has a cover scan confirming that it was published as by Phillips. Could you please check your copy and, if it matches what Kraang has, delete the "Garrett/Janifer" record? TIA! Ahasuerus 22:14, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Removed. The title page has "Mark Phillips", the facing page has the actual authors with brief bios. Dana Carson 06:49, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Tama of the Light Country [2]

Scanned in an image and added notes to [this] ~Bill, --Bluesman 00:52, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

"Guided Tour" vs "The Guided Tour"

Hi, could you double check whether or not the definite article is used in the poem's title here -- Locus and other collections list it without the "The". Thanks Jonschaper 01:33, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Dolphin's or Dolphins'

Can you check the position of the " ' " for [this] pub? I have the TP and the apostrophe follows the 's'. Thanks. ~Bill, --Bluesman 19:57, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Inferno [2]

Scanned in a new image and re-worked the notes a little for [this] ~Bill, --Bluesman 21:09, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

In the Shadow of Omizantrim - added cover/notation/map

Afternoon! This. [38]. I added a cover image, [39], notation and map crediting after matching my copy to your ver. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 20:51, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

The City in the Glacier - replaced cover art link/added notation

Afternoon! This. [40]. I replaced a broken Amazon link and added a new cover image, [41], and added notation, especially the cover artist signature "Bechaudes" found at bottom right front cover. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 20:02, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

I added gutter code & changed artist credit

I added gutter code & changed artist credit to your verified [42]. The jacket credits John Lisco for jacket design while the cover is signed "Corben" and is in the obvious style of Richard Corben. I notice some BC editions credit both jacket designer and cover artist so I think this change appropriate.Don Erikson 22:52, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

The Trouble Twisters

I added this cover scan to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 18:10, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

The Kif Strike Back

I added this cover scan to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 15:09, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Thuvia, Maid of Mars and The Chessmen of Mars added cover/notation

Morning! This. [43]. I added a cover image, [44], and notation after matching my copy to your ver. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 13:15, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

A Princess of Mars added cover

Morning! This. [45]. I added a cover image, [46], after matching my copy to your ver. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 13:57, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Swords of Mars and Synthetic Men of Mars - added cover/notation

Morning! This. [47]. I added a cover image, [48], and notation after matching my copy to your ver. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 15:25, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

All three look good. Dana Carson 08:12, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Purple Pterodactyls

Added a printing statement to [this] ~Bill, --Bluesman 20:02, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Map of Compact Space

I would like to merge several title records which I believe refer to the same piece of interior art, entitled "Map of Compact Space", that is included in some of C. J. Cherryh's Chanur novels. You are one of the verifiers whose pub records (this, this and this) would be affected by the change. Before making the merge I need to make sure that all titles refer to the same piece of art. A scan of the map can be found here (link points to my personal website; once the issue has been resolved I will remove the scan so that no copyright is violated). Unless you think my proposal is a bad idea in the first place, could you please verify whether the scan matches the map you have in your publication? You may wish to read the help desk discussion leading up to this request. Thanks for your time, Patrick -- Herzbube Talk 22:48, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

They all look like the same map Dana Carson 06:40, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Randal Garrett's Psic(h)opath

This story currently appears under the titles 'Psichopath' and 'Psicopath' - Could you re-check in this collection whether actually the latter title is used? Thanks -Fsfo 22:36, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Psicopath both in the TOC and on the story start page. Dana Carson 06:59, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, I'll set it as an alternate title then. -Fsfo 19:57, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Pigs Don't Fly

Mine looks like a first printing, so does yours - any idea why they both look like firsts? BLongley 20:11, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Ballroom of the Skies

In checking an edit for another edition of [this], I did some digging and think the date on this pub record is wrong and should be 1973. From [here] to [here] shows the correct price rang, and Fawcett started the "M" series in 1973. Price alone makes 1982 way off. FYI! Thanks! ~Bill, --Bluesman 22:25, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Your info on dating seems accurate. Apparently it is/was listed as 1982 by some dealers. Maybe that was the date of a reprint. All as you can say from the contents of the book is later than 1968 from the date of the afterword. Feel free to update the date. Dana Carson 06:53, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
Did the change and adjusted the notes. Please have a look! Thanks. ~Bill, --Bluesman 02:24, 17 November 2009 (UTC)

Low Port cover image switch

I noticed while reviewing a cover art merge that your verified Low Port was linked to the image for the trade paperback ISBN, and an LZZZZZZZZ one at that. I've changed it to this non-LZZZZZZZ image, obtained from the info for the hardcover's ISBN. It looks identical to the current form of the old image to me. --MartyD 13:07, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

The Wizard and the War Machine - added cover/notation/start pg no.

Morning! This. [49]. I added a cover image, [50], notation and start page number after matching my copy to your ver. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 15:20, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Change of Command

I've linked a better image to Change of Command--ErnestoVeg 17:11, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Reckoning Infinity

Scanned in a new image and expended the notes for [this] ~Bill, --Bluesman 14:44, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Earth Invader - added notation

Morning! This. [51]. I added notation after matching my copy to your ver. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 14:28, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

Memory by Linda Nagata

I changed the publication date from 2003-03-00 to 2003-04-00, as stated in my copy of Memory. Also added some notes. Thanks, Willem H. 19:04, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Glory Road

[This] and [this] appear to be identical. Since yours was added last was it cloned and the printing number not changed? ~Bill, --Bluesman 20:46, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

I apparently managed to miss that there was a 7th printing already there and cloned the 5th and did update the printing number. Will delete the dup. Dana Carson 09:21, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Christopher Anvil

I replaced your amazon image by a scan of my copy on this, it's slightly different (blurb by Weber for example). Hauck 18:14, 28 February 2010 (UTC) and also for the volume II there again with a Weber blurb.Hauck 18:20, 28 February 2010 (UTC) and again for [52] the same this time. Hauck 18:28, 28 February 2010 (UTC) And again one last for the road : here. Hauck 18:32, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

All good. Dana Carson 22:41, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Thief of Time / Going Postal

I added the publication month and notes to Thief of Time and notes to Going Postal. Thanks, Willem H. 19:18, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Also added this cover scan to Thief of Time. Willem H. 20:24, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
Looks good. Thanks. Dana Carson 21:35, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Anvil's Strangers in Paradise

I'm thinking the designation of this title as a collection is wrong. The record for your edition gives the contents, but the notes leads me to think the book is identical to mine (even the page numbers match). My copy (the Herbert Jenkins hardcover) has no indication that it's a collection, and is clearly marketed as a novel. There are three Parts, with 27 very short chapters. I'm not sure how they correspond with the three stories that were published in Analog, but according to Eric Flint's notes in Baen's Interstellar Patrol collection, the stories were "heavily edited". He included the original magazine versions in that collection. I'm leaning toward making this a fix-up, that ugly creation that schlepped up from the briny deeps to torment bibliographers into perpetuity. What do you think? Mhhutchins 17:53, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

I think I entered it after a discussion on collection vs fixup vs novel. It is a fixup and the seams are a bit more visible than in some cases so I went with collection. Switching to novel makes sense especially if there was serious edits involved. Want me to do the edit or you? Dana Carson 22:12, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
You can update your record (remove the contents and change to novel). I'll change the title record to novel, and note the source stories there. Thanks. Mhhutchins 22:56, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Convergent Series

Added an image to [this] ~Bill, --Bluesman 18:47, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Looks right. Thanks. Dana Carson 22:08, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

The repairmen of Cyclops

Added an image to your verified here and added note. Hauck 17:44, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Looks good. Dana Carson 22:40, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

The Singularity Project

Replaced amazon cover on your verified here and modified note. Hauck 14:53, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Diplomatic Immunity

Replaced amazon cover on your verified herre, which IMHO was a scan of the british pb, and added note. Hervé Hauck 14:55, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Dreamweaver's dilemma

Added an image to your verified here. Hervé Hauck 14:58, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for all three Dana Carson 09:00, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Convergent Series

Added Eric Ladd (confirmed in Jane Frank's Science Fiction and Fantasy Artists of the Twentieth Century) as cover artist, and a note to this verified pub. Thanks, --Willem 08:48, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Movie tie-in edition of The Girl, the Gold Watch and Everything

Locus #234 (June 1980) confirms your estimate for the printing date of this edition. They give May 1980 as the month of publication. Mhhutchins 17:19, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Hah, good. Thanks. Dana Carson 20:30, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Remains of the Dead

Ran across the second in the series that [this] belongs to, so created the series and dropped the series' name from the pub record. Double-checking on OCLC brought up a completely different publication [though the right picture] but the ISBN brings up the right book on Amazon. Likely OCLC has their wires crossed. Cheers! ~Bill, --Bluesman 21:21, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

The Tough Guide to Fantasyland

I picked up a copy of the DAW Books edition of The Tough Guide to Fantasyland. You verified a Vista edition but did not include any notes about interior artwork. There's no hurry on this one and so when you get a chance please take a look at the notes for the DAW edition and see if they apply to the Vista edition, and if they can be improved on. Thank you. --Marc Kupper|talk 01:25, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Cover scan uploaded for Vista edition. Will update notes in a bit, here are comments on your notes.
  1. There is a map on pages 6-7 but I don't see a signature. Where is it on your version?
  2. A dragon like illo is with the same 2 entries although different pages. Front legs, wings and a curly hind body?
  3. Page 70 within "Embroidery" is an illustration of signed "J.W."
  4. Fish illo could be DiFate but is very cutoff.
  5. Page 164 within "Scaly Folk" can't find a sig, but I am bad at that.
Dana Carson 00:30, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
  1. Page 6-7 map - the signature is in the upper-right corner. See Image:THTGHGDTFN1998-map.jpg and Image:THTGHGDTFN1998-map-signature.jpg.
  2. Your description seems accurate. I would add "serious overbite." --Marc Kupper|talk 08:09, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
  1. Different map then. Same basic shapes for the land, I'll scan and upload later. Dana Carson 05:55, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Drowning world

Replaced the amazon scan on your verified here. Hauck 15:19, 8 April 2010 (UTC)


Replaced the amazon scan on your verified here. Hauck 16:43, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Lord Darcy

Replaced the amazon scan on your verified here. Hauck 15:39, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Celestial Matters

Replaced the amazon scan on your verified here. Hauck 16:08, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Amazing Dr. Darwin

Added contents to [this] from the hardcover record. Hopefully the Appendix and Intro are the same?? Didn't import the page numbers, though. Replaced the ZZZZZ image as well. Cheers! ~Bill, --Bluesman 21:48, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

The Other Log of Phileas Fogg

After this question I have to move my verification of "The Other Log of Phileas Fogg" to this verified pub. I changed the publication date to 1973-03-00 however, because the "First printing to Tenth Printing" statement on the copyright page was used as numberline for a few early DAW's to indicate the first printing. Thanks, --Willem H. 15:24, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

Michael Kurland

Replaced the FF scan on your verified Ten Little Wizards and A Study in Sorcery. Hauck 16:48, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

The Warrior Lives by Joel Rosenberg

Re: Editing Publisher and adding note. --Astromath 18:07, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

At the Earth's Core

Added a good image to [this] obtained from Harry Borgman's blog/website [here]. He did a tribute to Frazetta after his death and included about a dozen images. Didn't touch the notes. ~Bill, --Bluesman 17:02, 4 June 2010 (UTC)


Replaced the amazon scan on your verified here. Hauck 18:02, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

The Atrocity Archives

I expanded the notes a bit for this verified pub. Thanks, --Willem H. 11:06, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

The same for The Clan Corporate. --Willem H. 14:47, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

The Land of Unreason

I added The Land of Unreason to the Ballantine Adult Fantasy pub series. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 11:37, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

The Broken Sword

I added The Broken Sword to the Ballantine Adult Fantasy pub series. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 11:27, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Beast Quest Master Your Destiny

Just a note that Amazon UK has posted a more comprehensive description of Beast Quest Master Your Destiny, which you currently have on hold. They say that it is a "a brand new Beast Quest, where your decisions determine the outcome". In other words, it's a choose-your-own-adventure kind of book and they are generally not listed in ISFDB. Ahasuerus 03:21, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Big Planet

Added an image to [this] --~ Bill, Bluesman 01:08, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

Mission to the Heart Stars [2]

Scanned in a new image and expanded the notes for [this] You wouldn't happen to know the source for the artist? Barlowe is one who doesn't have a style that immediately identifies his work. Thanks! --~ Bill, Bluesman 15:34, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

The Madman Theory

Added a very good image and the month [Locus1] to [this] --~ Bill, Bluesman 01:18, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

The Hidden family

Replaced the scan by on of a non-remaindered copy and added notes to your verified here. Hauck 18:39, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Crosstime Traffic

Replaced the amazon scan on your verified here. Hauck 17:17, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

A Point of Honor by Heydt

I added some notes to your verified pub. -DES Talk 14:34, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Kitty Goes to Washington

OCLC verified [this] and that record mentioned an additional short story at the end of the book, including pagination. Checked the Amazon "Look-Inside" feature and the copyright page noted the story as well. Added it to the contents. Also, is Craig White given cover credit on the back cover? Copyright page notes Puckey for design but Locus credits White for the cover of the UK edition [same artwork]. Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 18:52, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

The Mandness Season - 1st printing cover difference?

Afternoon! This. [53]. You have second ver and DSorgen is extremely hard to get to respond. I just got a first printing also, but mine has a human on front cover and the alien on back cover. [54] Note the red title. My 3rd printing has the alien cover. Could you confirm your cover matches that used? Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 20:22, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

I added notation to reflect my cover difference, etc. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 11:37, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Blood Trail

You verified Blood Trail with the note "DAW #873. Catalog #UE2502.". Is the UE2502 on the spine? I don't see it on the cover. --Marc Kupper|talk 03:39, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Double contact

Replaced the amazon scan on your verified here. Hauck 14:27, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

Space Vulture

I added some notes to this verified pub to match my copy. Thanks, --Willem H. 19:31, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Irresistible Forces

Replaced the amazon scan on your verified here and added notes. Hauck 16:34, 11 September 2010 (UTC)


User:Dsorgen has uploaded a new cover image for this verified pub I am about to approve the pub edit. --Willem H. 19:55, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

Basil Gorgos vs Gogos

Hi, I suspect the cover credit on this should be to "Gogos". Cheers Jonschaper 04:59, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Good catch. Thanks. Updated. Dana Carson 04:20, 8 October 2010 (UTC)

Fruit of the Vein

In your verified Fangs for the Mammaries, there is a story Fruit of the Vein for the which the author is listed as Fruit of the Vein. I believe this is a mistake and the author really is Lucienne Diver? Can you double check? Thanks. --JLaTondre 13:41, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Good catch. I must have gotten confused entering that one. Corrected. Dana Carson 00:52, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Cover on Shards of a Broken Crown

Hi. I have what seems to be the same 1st paper back printing as your verified Shards of a Broken Crown, except the cover on mine is completely different. It looks like this (with slightly darker blue and slightly yellower lettering); the fingers on the hands and the gems on the crown are raised. I'm wondering if we could have different editions. Mine says Printed in the U.S.A. and has "WCD" before the number line. Does your pub match the image currently displayed for that record? Thanks, --MartyD 21:04, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Cover for Ashes of Victory

User:AndonSage has replaced the Amazon cover with an uploaded scan on your verified Ashes of Victory. They're visually similar, although the aspect ratios are a little different. --MartyD 13:14, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Covers for War of Honor and At All Costs

User:AndonSage has replaced the Amazon cover on your verified War of Honor with an uploaded scan, likewise the cover on your verified At All Costs. Both scans have a red badge in the lower left not present on the Amazon covers. --MartyD 13:16, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

"Heart and Mind" excerpt author

Hi. I got a 6th printing of Heat Stroke, and in going to clone an existing printing, I see your verified 9th printing lists Heart and Mind (excerpt) as by "Edith Rachel Caine". In my copy, it's credited to Edith Sitwell at the bottom. A quick Google concurs. --MartyD 11:52, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Fever Season, C. J. Cherryh

In the notes to your verified publication, you counted the total pages in the book, including the maps at the end, as 301 pages. A slight error, I've corrected that to 302 pages. Chavey 04:42, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

Dragonsbane, by Barbara Hambly

I added a content item to your verified Dragonsbane, for the "About the Author" at the end of the book. It seemed to contain enough material of biographical interest to justify noting it. Chavey 06:39, 26 December 2010 (UTC)

Tom Swift and His Ultrasonic Cycloplane

You're the primary verifier for this book. I have an apparent 1st edition, while you listed your copy as a later printing. My copy also has a fairly boring, generic cover, while yours has a pretty neat cover. Is that a book jacket cover, or an actual painted cover? Thanks, Chavey 19:41, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Never mind the original question. But I see it's a later printing, which means it should probably have either a "0000-00-00" publication date, or else a "1963-00-00" publication date, based on the last book listed on the list of available books. Would you be willing to update that? Chavey 06:01, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

De Camp and Pratt's (The) Land of Unreason

We've both verified the Ballantine Adult Fantasy printing of this. I noticed that we have the title as "The Land of Unreason". However it looks to me like we should have it as "Land of Unreason". I just wanted to check with you before I move the publication to the variant title. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 13:12, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

I'm going to go ahead and make this change. Give a yell, if you disagree. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 00:24, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Have Trenchcoat -- Will Travel

I added a cover scan to Have Trenchcoat -- Will Travel. I also expanded the page count to include the Roman numbered pages, and expanded the title adding "and Others". Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 03:16, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

Added gutter code

I added a reprint gutter code to your verified edition of [55].Don Erikson 23:08, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Added gutter code

I added gutter code to two reprints of your verified [56].Don Erikson 17:53, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Added gutter code to reprint

I added a gutter code to a reprint of your verified [57].Don Erikson 20:55, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Added gutter code to reprints

I added gutter code to reprints of your verified [58].Don Erikson 22:26, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Midnight at the Well of Souls

I uploaded a cover scan of the sixth printing (my 6th printing copy is in better condition than my 7th printing copy), which exactly matches the seventh printing, for your verified Midnight at the Well of Souls seventh printing. I changed the notes to reflect this information, and also added the roman numerals to the page count, since they are actual. AndonSage 03:24, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

March to the Stars cover image

I replaced the default Amazon cover with an actual cover image for March to the Stars. AndonSage 22:23, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

Legend cover image

I uploaded a cover scan image for your verified Legend, and added some notes for the publication date and cover artist. AndonSage 07:25, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

The Court of a Thousand Suns cover image

I uploaded a cover scan for your verified The Court of a Thousand Suns, and added some Notes while I was editing that in. AndonSage 00:33, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Fleet of the Damned cover image

I uploaded a cover scan image of your verified Fleet of the Damned. Can you check the price on your copy? Because while you verified a price of $3.50, my copy, which appears to be first edition (stated First Edition: April 1988 and no printing line) has a price of $4.99. AndonSage 00:43, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

The Return of the Emperor cover image

I replaced the Amazon image with an actual cover image for your verified The Return of the Emperor. AndonSage 00:59, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Empire's End cover image

I replaced the Amazon cover image with an actual cover image for your verified Empire's End. AndonSage 01:14, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

The Spriggan Mirror publication date

According to your verified The Spriggan Mirror, the publication date is 2006-09-15. However, the book itself has no printing date. The only copyright dates in the book are 2007, and the Locus1 date is Jan 2007. Where did you get your Sept 2006 publication date? Thanks. AndonSage 23:46, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

A Logical Magician cover image

I replaced the Amazon cover image with an actual cover scan for your verified A Logical Magician. AndonSage 23:13, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

Miles Vorkosigan/Naismith: His Universe and Times

Many books in the Vorkosigan series include an essay at the end titled "Miles Vorkosigan/Naismith: His Universe and Times". 20 of these in the ISFDB are credited to Lois McMaster Bujold. Looking at a handful of those that I own, they all appear to be officially uncredited, and the Bujold credit may have been due to them being in a book by her. There are also two essays with this, or similar, title credited to "Suford Lewis", in: Dreamweaver's Dilemma (1996) and The Vorkosigan Companion (2008), both of which have been verified by you. I can't tell whether the other 20 versions are variations of Lewis's timeline, and hence should be credited that way, are a separate chronology always uncredited, or whether any of them have an actual credit to Bujold. You have also verified several of those books where the "Universe and Times" essay was credited to Bujold. Could you check to see what the proper credit status should be for these various versions? Thanks, Chavey 17:58, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

I don't know if you followed this discussion, if so please see here for my opinion, and comment if you like. If you agree, I will change the credit for the essay to uncredited, vt'd to Lois McMaster Bujold and Michael Bernardi. I will also add the interior art piece by Suford Lewis to your verified edition of Dreamweaver's Dilemma (and all other editions). Thanks, --Willem H. 19:14, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
Waited a few days, then made the changes. --Willem H. 15:25, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

The Man Who Corrupted Earth

Scanned in a new image, added a couple of notes and corrected the artist's name [two 'ts' in Attila] for [this] Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 14:43, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Renegade of Callisto

New image, identified artist from signature, notes for [this] --~ Bill, Bluesman 04:12, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

The Diamond Contessa - less dark cover scan

Hi, I replaced the Amazon scan for The Diamond Contessa with one from my copy, and added information on the note field.--Dirk P Broer 13:44, 8 June 2011 (UTC)

The King of Ys by Anderson

Can you see if the statement "Book Club Edition" is printed on the front flap of the dustjacket of this pub? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 14:02, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Can you also check The Story of the Stone? Mhhutchins 14:19, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
And Those Who Hunt the Night? Thanks. Mhhutchins 14:35, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Siege of Tarr-Hostigos

I uploaded a scanned cover image, added notes, and added Roland Green as an author to your verified Siege of Tarr-Hostigos. AndonSage 22:04, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

This is parked on hold to give you a chance to look at the submission diff and to think about how to handle it. --Marc Kupper|talk 02:03, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
I did some research on this - makes it clear that Siege of Tarr-Hostigos was a colaborative work. The puzzle is that Roland Green is not mentioned on the copyright notice. Per Template:PublicationFields:Author Roland Green should be credited and the rest of the proposed publication update looks fine to me. --Marc Kupper|talk 06:08, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
Well, Roland Green is copyrighted for the original short story the novel is based on. I figure that John expanded the short story into the novel himself, which is why Roland Green isn't copyrighted for the novel. But John does credit Roland with the "with Roland Green" on the title page. Do you want me to ask John about Roland's contribution to the novel? You still have the submission on hold. Since Dcarson hasn't even responded to my question to him about The Spriggan Mirror from February, I doubt he's going to respond to this issue. AndonSage 00:52, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
I thought he'd be back sooner. The last Dcarson edit was 18:02, 17 June 2011. I went ahead and approved the update. The changes were:
  • Author changed from John F. Carr to John F. Carr+Roland Green
  • Cover image added
  • Notes changed from "Limited edition 1,000 copies hardback first edition." to
    • Stated First Edition, Limited to 1,000 copies.
    • Stated First Printing, November 2003
    • First printing by number line.
    • Copyright © 2003 by John F. Carr.
    • Original Cover Art—Copyright © 2003 by Alan Gutierrez.
    • Title page author "John F. Carr (over) with Roland Green".
    • "Special Thanks" on page v.
    • "Acknowledgements" on page vii.
    • Maps from pages [viii] - [xi] by Alan Gutierrez, who is credited for the maps in "Acknowledgements."
    • "Dramatis Personae" on pages xiii - xvi.
    • "Preface" on pages xvii - xxi.
  • New content: Siege of Tarr-Hostigos (maps) by Alan Gutierrez 2003-00-00 [viii] INTERIORART.
  • Note to moderator: I wasn't sure whether Roland Green should be added as an author, but since the title page lists "John F. Carr (over) with Roland Green" and the original short story that this novel is based on is copyright 1989 John F. Carr and Roland Green, I thought I should. However, I'm pretty sure the novel version was written entirely by Carr. --Marc Kupper|talk 08:47, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Gottlief or Gottlieb?

Would you please check if the Penicillin essay is by Gottlief, as we have it, or Gottlieb, as has it, in your verified The Grantville Gazette? I will also ask User:AndonSage, who has a second primary verification. Thanks. --MartyD 03:01, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

Based on this response and the evidence on the Grantville Gazette site, I changed Gottlief to Gottlieb, adding a note. --MartyD 10:34, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
And based on the further follow-up, I changed Robert to Bob. --MartyD 11:56, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

1634: The Baltic War (notes)

I added notes to your verified 1634: The Baltic War. AndonSage 02:28, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

1634: The Bavarian Crisis (notes)

I've added notes to your verified 1634: The Bavarian Crisis and changed the contents pages to match the 'Contents' page in the book. AndonSage 02:47, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

I have on hold this submission that would remove p. 691's Family Trees. Let me know what you think. Thanks. --MartyD 11:38, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
I'm trying to delete the "Family Trees" title so I can add the correct "Genealogies" title (to match the Table of Contents page) and credit it to Gorg Huff ("Maps & charts by Gorg Huff" on the copyright page). BTW, how long do you wait to hear from Dcarson? I asked him a question on Feb 18 that he still hasn't responded to, so I don't know if he's around. AndonSage 19:08, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
Oh. Why not just rename it and change the author? Much easier than remove, delete, add another.... It's only used in this edition and the SFBC edition for which there's no primary source, so having the change reflected there, too, is probably a good idea. --MartyD 20:32, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
Ok, done. I didn't know I could do it that way. AndonSage 03:05, 3 July 2011 (UTC)

Added reprint gutter code

I added a reprint gutter code to your verified [59].

Added reprint gutter code

I added a reprint code for your verified [60].Don Erikson 21:34, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Tales of the Flying Mountains

Hi, I've changed the publisher for Tales of the Flying Mountains (Macmillan, 1971) from Macmillan to Collier / Macmillan and expanded the notes, giving all instances on cover and title page where Collier is mentioned (whereas Macmillan only shows up on the copyright page, and then more as mother company of Collier). --Dirk P Broer 13:35, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Tom Swift and his Rocket Ship

Hi, You've verified Tom Swift and his Rocket Ship as having been written by Harriet Stratemeyer Adams. According to Reginald3 (page 38, record # 00450) this is not the case: The "Victor Appleton II" that is on the cover is here John Almquist. --Dirk P Broer 08:23, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Tom Swift and his Giant Robot

With Tom Swift and his Giant Robot Victor Appleton II is in fact Richard Sklar (Reginald3, Page 38, record 00444), not Harriet Stratemeyer Adams. --Dirk P Broer 08:29, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Tom Swift and his Atomic Blaster

Tom Swift and his Atomic Blaster was in fact written by Jim Lawrence (Reginald3, page 38, record 00436), not by Harriet Stratemeyer Adams. --Dirk P Broer 08:33, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Tom Swift and his Diving Seacopter

In the case of Tom Swift and his Diving Seacopter it is again Jim Lawrence (who did 23 of the 33 Tom Swift Jr. books) according to Reginald3, page 38, record 00439. --Dirk P Broer 08:39, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Tom Swift on the Phantom Satellite

Tom Swift on the Phantom Satellite has Jim Lawrence writing as Victor Appleton II, according to Reginald3, page 39, record 00467. --Dirk P Broer 08:45, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Tom Swift and his Ultrasonic Cycloplane

Another Jim Lawrence with Tom Swift and his Ultrasonic Cycloplane, according to Reginald3, page 39, record 00457. --Dirk P Broer 08:49, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Tom Swift and his Deep-Sea Hydrodome

Yet another Jim Lawrence with Tom Swift and his Deep-Sea Hydrodome, according to Reginald3, page 38, record 00438. --Dirk P Broer 09:55, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Tom Swift in the Race to the Moon

Another Jim Lawrence writing as Victor Appleton II in Tom Swift in the Race to the Moon, according to Reginald3, page 39, record 00466. --Dirk P Broer 09:59, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Tom Swift and his Space Solartron

And yet another Jim Lawrence writing as Victor Appleton II with Tom Swift and his Space Solartron, according to Reginald3, page 39, record 00452. --Dirk P Broer 10:03, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Tom Swift and his Electronic Retroscope

Jim Lawrence was again Victor Appleton II with Tom Swift and his Electronic Retroscope, according to reginald3, page 38, record 00441. --Dirk P Broer 10:07, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Tom Swift and his Spectromarine Selector

Tom Swift and his Spectromarine Selector is another Jim Lawrence writing as Victor Appleton II, according to Reginald3, page 39, record 00453. --Dirk P Broer 10:10, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Tom Swift and his Cosmic Astronauts

Tom Swift and his Cosmic Astronauts is yet another case of Jim Lawrence writing as Victor Appleton II, according to Reginald3, page 39, record 00460. --Dirk P Broer 10:15, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Tom Swift and the Visitor from Planet X

Tom Swift and the Visitor from Planet X was also done by Jim Lawrence, writing as Victor Appleton II, according to Reginald3, page 39, record 00464. --Dirk P Broer 10:19, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Tom Swift and the Electronic Hydrolung

Jim Lawrence was also the Victor Appleton II with Tom Swift and the Electronic Hydrolung, according to Reginald3, page39, record 00461. --Dirk P Broer 10:23, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Tom Swift and His Aquatomic Tracker

Tom Swift and His Aquatomic Tracker was also done by Jim Lawrence, writing as Victor Appleton II (a house name for the Stratemeyer group). --Dirk P Broer 10:35, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Tom Swift and his 3-D Telejector

Tom Swift and his 3-D Telejector was also done by Jim Lawrence in the disguise of Victor Appleton II, according to Reginald3, page 39, record 00455. --Dirk P Broer 10:39, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Tom Swift and His Polar-Ray Dynasphere

Tom Swift and His Polar-Ray Dynasphere is yet another of the Tom Swift Jr. titles where "Victor Appleton II" is actually Jim Lawrence, according to Reginald3, page 38, record 00448. --Dirk P Broer 10:43, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Tom Swift and his Sonic Boom Trap

I am afraid not a single one of the Tom Swift Jr. boooks was done by Harriet Stratemeyer Adams. Tom Swift and his Sonic Boom Trap is yet another Jim Lawrence writing as Victor Appleton II, according to Reginald3, pages 38-39, record 00451. --Dirk P Broer 10:48, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Tom Swift and his Subocean Geotron

Perhaps a bit repetitive: Tom Swift and his Subocean Geotron is another Jim Lawrence done under the house pseudonym Victor Appleton II, according to Reginald3, page 39, record 00454. --Dirk P Broer 10:53, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Tom Swift and the Mystery Comet

Tom Swift and the Mystery Comet is yet another Jim Lawrence/Victor Appleton II case, see Reginald3, page 39, record 00463. --Dirk P Broer 10:56, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Tom Swift and the Captive Planetoid

Tom Swift and the Captive Planetoid: Jim Lawrence (title) writing as Victor Appleton II (publication). see Reginald3, page 39, record 00459. --Dirk P Broer 11:01, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Tom Swift and His G-Force Inverter

Tom Swift and His G-Force Inverter: another Jim Lawrence title / Victor Appleton II publication. see Reginald3, page 38, record 00443. --Dirk P Broer 11:04, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Tom Swift and his Dyna-4 Capsule

Tom Swift and his Dyna-4 Capsule was written by Richard McKenna and published as by Victor Appleton II. see Reginald3, page 38, record 00440. --Dirk P Broer 11:08, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Tom Swift and his Cosmotron Express

Tom Swift and his Cosmotron Express is another Richard McKenna title where the publication says Victor Appleton II. See Reginald3, page 38, record 00437. --Dirk P Broer 11:12, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Tom Swift and the Galaxy Ghosts

The last Tom Swift, Jr. title, Tom Swift and the Galaxy Ghosts was also written by Richard McKenna and published as by Victor Appleton II. see Reginald3, page 39, record 00462. --Dirk P Broer 11:16, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

An Annotated Bibliography of Recursive Science Fiction

Added cover for your verified here. Hauck 14:12, 6 September 2011 (UTC)


Scanned an image and expanded the notes slightly for [this] Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 16:20, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

Today and Tomorrow And...

I added a cover scan to this verified pub. --Willem H. 14:39, 16 September 2011 (UTC)

Athyra - cover image and notes

I replaced the default Amazon cover image with a scanned image, and added notes to your verified Athyra (Vlad Taltos #6). AndonSage 10:39, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

David Drake - All the Way To the Gallows

I updated the contents of your verified pub All the Way To the Gallows to include the preface material before several of the stories, making the contents match the 1st printing. I've verified these changes against my copy in hand. I also updated the notes to document that this is a stated 2nd printing. Thanks Kevin 21:41, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Grantville Gazette - cover image, notes and title change

I have replaced the Amazon cover image with a scanned image, added notes, and removed "The" from the title, for your verified Grantville Gazette. AndonSage 19:34, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

"The Master Mind of Mars and A Fighting Man of Mars"

You verified this book, which is listed with a print date of Jan. 1974. However it is also listed as having a gutter code of D51, which translates to Dec. 1973 (which agrees with Contento1, who just says "1973"). As such, I have updated the the print date for that book. Chavey 23:09, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Similarly, Thuvia, Maid of Mars and The Chessmen of Mars has a listed publication date of Jan. 1973, but the listed gutter code "20 P" translates to May 1973, so I updated that one as well. Chavey 23:18, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Oops. Bluesman corrects me that we use SFBC catalogs to determine 1st publication dates, not the gutter codes, so I have reverted the changes mentioned above. (But I did change the 1st printing gutter code on "Thuvia..." to "49N", based on our gutter code list.) Chavey 23:26, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Chandler - Kelly Country

I updated your verified pub Kelly Country with linked Amazon cover art. - Thanks Kevin 20:33, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

The Oathbound

Replaced amazon scan and added note for your verified here. Hauck 12:38, 23 October 2011 (UTC)

Fuzzy Ergo Sum

The month of publication (from the Amazon listing) has been added to this record. Thanks. Mhhutchins 06:12, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

War of the Worlds: Global Dispatches

Added scan and notes for your verified here. Hauck 09:11, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

Llana of Gathol and John Carter of Mars

Added a cover image to this record. Mhhutchins 23:15, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

A Darkness at Sethanon - cover image and notes

I replaced the Amazon cover image with a scanned image, and modified the notes, including adding a link for the LCCN and fixing the signature (© eg should have been © 86) for your verified A Darkness at Sethanon. AndonSage 08:51, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Time Scout cover image

I have scanned, uploaded, and submitted my cover for Time Scout. Thanks. Jmaloney 21:08, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Robots have no tail

Hi, I have uploaded a new cover, replacing the Amazon one, for this pub. --Pips55 22:29, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Low Port

I am correcting the spelling of the story Voyeur (from Voyer) in Low Port, edited by Lee and Miller. Bob 02:11, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

Operation Luna

I added "First Edition" on copyright page and the LCCN to the notes for Operation Luna that you verified. Bob 04:19, 26 February 2012 (UTC)

Earthman's Burden

Please see this discussion. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 16:08, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Shadow of a Dark Queen

Expanded notes for Shadow of a Dark Queen. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 20:25, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

A Logical Magician - notes

I added notes to your verified A Logical Magician. AndonSage 00:44, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

Walker of Worlds - page numbering and notes

I fixed the page numbering (to use brackets for unnumbered pages), and added notes to your verified Walker of Worlds. AndonSage 02:50, 22 March 2012 (UTC)

The Wizardry Quested - notes

I added notes to your verified The Wizardry Quested. AndonSage 23:36, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Honor among Enemies

I added the LCCN and a description of the built-in flip book to the notes for Honor among Enemies by David Weber. Bob 22:29, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

In Enemy Hands

I added the LCCN to the notes for In Enemy Hands by David Weber. I also changed the artists name from Dave to David and added the uncredited map. Bob 22:35, 30 March 2012 (UTC)

Ashes of Victory

I added the LCCN to the notes of Ashes of Victory by David Weber. Bob 00:35, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

War of Honor

I added the LCCN to the notes of War of Honor by David Weber. Bob 00:38, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

At All Costs

I added the LCCN to the notes for At All Costs by David Weber. Bob 00:42, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

March Upcountry

I added the LCCN to the notes of March Upcounty. Bob 16:13, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

March to the Sea

I added the LCCN to the notes of March to the Sea. Bob 16:16, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

March to the Stars

I added several items to the notes of March to the Stars. Bob 16:20, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Off Armageddon Reef

I added the LCCN to the notes of Off Armageddon Reef. Bob 19:50, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Wind Rider's Oath

I added some items to the notes and showed the pages for the maps, characters and gods in the contents for Wind Rider's Oath. Bob 21:08, 31 March 2012 (UTC)

Tarzan at the Earth's Core

I've the interior art for the title page for Tarzan at the Earth's Core. I would have had you check first, but the notes already referenced the art. I also linked the Worldcat record. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 11:35, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Tarzan and the City of Gold

I've moved your publication of Tarzan and the City of Gold from the main title to the abridged variant. I've also changed the cover artist per Robert B. Zeuschner's Edgar Rice Burroughs. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 12:30, 9 April 2012 (UTC)

Added cover scan and wrap around cover scan. Dana Carson 03:38, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

The Gripping Hand

I have changed the pagination of The Gripping Hand from xvii to xviii and added the Canadian price to the note field. --John L.-- Syzygy 11:39, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Tarzan and the Lost Safari

I added month and day of publication and the price to Tarzan and the Lost Safari per Henry Hardy Heins' A Golden Anniversary Bibliography of Edgar Rice Burroughs. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 12:58, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Added scans of the cover and the wrap around cover. Added first page number. Dana Carson 07:31, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Busby's Zelde M'tana

I've linked the cover image and added notes to this publication record and did a second primary verification. Mhhutchins 18:16, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Uploaded a scan of the cover and added Canadian price. Dana Carson 07:31, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

The Dance of Time

I added to the notes for The Dance of Time: LCCN, Artists credited on copyright page, cover artist also credited on rear jacket flap, complete number line. I also added [viii] to the number of pages and assigned vi to maps and 1 to the novel. I added Cast of Characters and Glossary to the contents. If you want to remove these changes, please feel free to do so. Bob 15:24, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. Yeah that was before I was as detailed entering a book. Dana Carson 18:12, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Pandora's Legions

Replaced amazon scan for your verified here and for The Steel, the Mist, and the Blazing Sun. Hauck 16:56, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

Looks good. Thanks. Dana Carson 00:33, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

A Taint in the Blood

I added cover artist credit to A Taint in the Blood.Ofearna 19:05, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Approved. Where did you find the artist info? I thought I looked pretty thoroughly. Dana Carson 19:11, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Change of Command

I added words to the notes for Change of Command. Bob 03:19, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

I added similar words to the notes for Against the Odds, sequel to the above. Bob 03:24, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

I also added similar words to the notes for Command Decision. Bob 14:07, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Mirror Dance

I added some words to the notes for Mirror Dance. You may want to add the timeline on p. 393 to the contents. Bob 20:55, 20 May 2012 (UTC)


I added words to the notes for Memory. You included the timeline at the end of the book, but did not disambiguate it. These timelines are sometimes the same as those in other Bujold books, but this one is new at the time it was published -- the last item was added. Bob 21:12, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Ditto for Komarr. Bob 21:16, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Diplomatic Immunity

I added the usual words to the notes for Diplomatic Immunity. Bob 21:53, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

The Curse of Chalion

I added words to the notes of The Curse of Chalion. I also uploaded a scan of the jacket, added the month of publication and changed the number of pages. Bob 02:52, 21 May 2012 (UTC)


Hello. I took the liberty to uploasd a new image for your verfied pub as it seem that your copy lacks the second cover illustration which is partly visible through the oval hole on cover. Hauck 14:20, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Bought it used and it was a bit beat up. Thanks. Dana Carson 19:06, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

The Steel, the Mist, and the Blazing Sun - An Analog Book

I've added your verified pub The Steel, the Mist, and the Blazing Sun to the publication series An Analog Book. The first printing of this book includes a small blurb that it is 'An Analog Book' on the front cover, but it doesn't include the stylized 'An Analog Book' logo/header on the cover. Even the small blurb disappears by the second printing (which is the copy in my possession). I only found this through a couple of Abe books listings which mentioned it as being part of the series. I think this completes the "An Analog Book" series... and that's a good thing because a Google search shows that the term is being used now to refer to 'a printed book' aka a 'non-digital/electronic book'. Chuckle - Just FYI, and Thanks Kevin 14:35, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

The Early Asimov

Could you please check the physical size of your verified pub The Early Asimov? I think I have a reprint of the trade edition (instead of a reprint of the book club edition), but I don't have a dust jacket and all I know at this point is the page count and page numbers for stories is way off. The copy I have in hand is 'normal' size (9.5"x6.5"), and not 'book club' sized (8.5"x5.5"). Thanks - Kevin 03:22, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Book club size. 8 1/5 x 5 5/8 x 1 5/8 or so. Dana Carson 03:47, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
Thanks! - I think I'm going to run with the idea that I've got a trade reprint, and not a Book club reprint. - Cheers! Kevin 04:02, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Three Hearts and Three Lions

I added a note about the artist to this verified pub. Perhaps your note can be removed now? --Willem H. 08:13, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, Done Dana Carson 18:30, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Tarzan and the Ant Men

I added a cover scan to Burroughs' Tarzan and the Ant Men. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 01:48, 22 June 2012 (UTC)

Tarzan's Quest

When you get a chance could you check the cover artist for your copy of the 2nd Ballantine printing of Tarzan's Quest. I found a cover scan of the 3rd printing which we had credited to Bob Abbett. However, it is clearly the same cover art as the Richard Powers cover from the 1st printing and I've updated the cover artist for that record. This website also asserts the 2nd printing cover is by Powers. Unfortunately, they don't have a scan of the second printing. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 13:52, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

Tarzan and the Forbidden City et al

I have the same question about Tarzan and the Forbidden City as with Tarzan's Quest above. Although in this case I did find a cover scan which I've also added. I'm fairly certain it should be Richard Powers in this case. Looking ahead, it looks like I'll have the same question for Tarzan the Magnificent and Tarzan and "The Foreign Legion", both of which I'll have cover scans that I'll add.

The same website asserts that the cover artist for Tarzan and the Castaways and Tarzan and the Madman is actually Bob Abbett and is miscredited (at least in Castaways) as Powers. The 1st printing has no credit, but Abbett is listed as the artist in Zeuschner for the earlier printings. It looks more like Abbett than Powers to me, so I'm inclined to trust the secondary sources. If you agree, I can make the changes and set up the variant. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 15:35, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

Ant Men, Quest, Forbidden City, Foreign Legion and Magnificent all say Abbett. Madman and Castaways say Powers. I'm bad at telling artist from style but they do look similar in style across all the covers. I can scan them all in if you like. Dana Carson 19:42, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
I actually had to make myself a chart. There is no question about Ant Men. For the others the same illustration was used for each of the first three Ballantine printings. For Quest Forbidden City, Magnificent and Foreign Legion all of the 1st printings were credited to Powers, and Zeuschner confirms him as the artist. For the second and third printings of those titles, the credit was changed to Abbett. Zeuschner doesn't list additional printings until the 4th when the cover changed to the Vallejo artwork.
For Madman and Castaways, the first printing has no cover artist credit. The 2nd and 3rd credit Powers. Zeuschner credits Abbett for the first printings (and for the 2nd of Castaways, though I can't say why it is listed as he usually doesn't until the art changes).
My opinion, is that the artist for 19-22 is almost certainly Powers and seems stylistically identical to the Powers covers of the first 18 Books. For 23 & 24 the style is different and certainly not Powers. I can't say if it is the same artist as the later printings of the first 18 books credited to Abbett, but it seems plausible, so I'm inclined to trust Zeuschner (the only secondary source I have with artist information).
Willem H. handled the 1st Canadian printing of Forbidden City by listing the actual artist and adding a note about the credit, rather than making a variant. That seems a reasonable approach if you agree that the artist is miss-credited. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 00:36, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
I'll weakly agree. I'm bad about saying that things have the same style so the best I can say is that they aren't definitely different. The source sounds pretty solid, might list it in the notes. Dana Carson 04:18, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

At All Costs

Hi, in At All Costs (Bean, 2005) you've credited both the Glossary and the Character list to David Weber himself. I own At All Costs (Bean, 2007) and can not find any evidence for that. For all that I know both extra's are written by an editor at Bean's. Have you any information from the hardcover that verifies your verification? --Dirk P Broer 18:03, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Pellucidar et al

I added a cover scan to your copy of Burroughs' Pellucidar. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 19:54, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

Also for Tanar of Pellucidar. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 23:16, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
and Land of Terror. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 23:45, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
and Pirates of Venus. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 12:03, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
and Lost on Venus. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 12:21, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

The Wizard of Venus / Pirate Blood

I'd wondering if we should change the title of Burroughs' The Wizard of Venus / Pirate Blood to simply "The Wizard of Venus". My argument for changing the title is that it isn't really an ace double and all of the secondary sources refer to the book as simply "The Wizard of Venus" with the exception of OCLC 6323583 which lists the title as "Pirate Blood". The argument against changing it is that "Pirate Blood" does seem to have its own title page 57 that looks like a book title page. I would lean towards "The Wizard of Venus" as the title to match the secondary sources. I do note that Ace changed the title with the 4th printing and I'll be making those printings a variant. I'll be checking with the verifier of the third printing as well. I think we are the only active verifiers from the first three Ace printings. I'll also be checking with the verifier of the New English Library edition to double check how they are reflected and make variants there if necessary. Let me know your thoughts. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 00:27, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

My copy has "The Wizard of Venus" on the titlepage, followed by "Including the complete novel Pirate Blood", so according to our rules the title should probably be changed. On the other hand, "Pirate Blood" does have it's own titlepage, and is twice as long as "The Wizard of Venus". I have no strong feelings either way. --Willem H. 12:06, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
I've made the changes as indicated. Let me know if anything looks amiss and we need to move anything back. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 12:20, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
Looks good. Thanks, --Willem H. 13:25, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

DAW Collectors publication series

I and a couple of other editors are trying to formalize the DAW Collectors Books publication series. The consensus is that we should include only those publications that explicitly list their DAW number, either on the cover, the spine, or the copyright page. This applies to, apparently, all first editions and to some reprint editions, but not to most of the reprints. You have verified several DAW reprint editions where the notes list the DAW number. However, I can't tell from the wording in the notes whether this number is listed because (i) it was actually stated on the book; or (ii) the number was inherited from other editions with the DAW number listed. If you have the time, I would appreciate it if you could check these reprints and when they have the number actually listed, update the notes to reflect that. For example, adding "(on cover)" or "(on copyright page)" to a phrase like "DAW Collectors No. 123". The publications you've verified that fall into this scenario are:

Thanks much, Chavey 18:12, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Star Trek

I've added James Bama as cover artist to this record. Image is in Infinite Worlds by Vincent Di Fate.--Teddybear 19:03, 25 August 2012 (UTC)


I probably should have responded to your community post here. However, trying to edit on a smart phone is tricky, so I just replied in place. Sorry I missed you. I did spend the rest of the convention reading everyone's badge. Do you usually attend Worldcon and are you planning on going to San Antonio next year? If so, we should exchange contact info in advance. I'd love to be able to put a face with a name. Hope you enjoyed Chicago. I know I did. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 03:01, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

"Adventures of Terra Tarkington", by Sharon Webb

I added a couple of minor notes to your verified publication. Chavey 17:12, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Honor Among Enemies

I corrected the published title of your verified publication Honor Among Enemies. I removed an incorrect preface, changing the title from "Honor Harrington: Honor Among Enemies" to "Honor Among Enemies". This matches my copy in hand. Thanks - Kevin 00:05, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Too Many Magicians

I added a few notes to this pub, clarifying that it is a 1st printing, and where the publication date comes from. Patrick -- Herzbube Talk 23:55, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

I added the Canadian price

I added the Canadian price to your verified [61].Don Erikson 00:05, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

The Babylon Gate

Replaced FF scan and added note to your verfiied here. Hauck 18:24, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

I added cover artist credit

I added interior art credit to your verified [62] & here[63].Don Erikson 00:29, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

Too Many Targets

I added a cover scan to 23:40, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

The Vorkosigan Companion

Hi, I have a copy of the hardcover edition of The Vorkosigan Companion out from the library, and made some changes to the Notes area on this publication. I added printing info and LCCN and removed a couple of notes that only had to do with the electronic edition. Hope this is OK. Thanks! 03:11, 10 December 2012 (UTC) oops, forgot to sign my name BungalowBarbara 23:48, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

The Misenchanted Sword

Re: The Misenchanted Sword
Added LCCN to notes.--Astromath 04:46, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

The Heir Apparent

Re: The Heir Apparent
Question: Isn't the last line of the notes concering the URL redundant? I'm leaving it alone, though, unless you say otherwise.--Astromath 21:13, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

I added a note

I added a note "Stated 2nd printing" to your verified [64].Don Erikson 16:49, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

I added the Canadian price

I added the Canadian price to your verified [65].Don Erikson 22:16, 21 December 2012 (UTC)

The Best of TREK® #2

Re: The Best of TREK® #2
Replacing cover image with one showing correct price scanned from personal collection.--Astromath 18:19, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Anne Inez McCaffrey, 40 Years of Publishing: An International Bibliography

Please see this discussion. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 02:44, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

Fixed. Thanks. Dana Carson 16:05, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

Twilight at the Well of Souls: The Legacy of Nathan Brazil

Re: Twilight at the Well of Souls: The Legacy of Nathan Brazil Adding LCCN to notes.--Astromath 00:37, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Sorcery & Cecilia

Re: Sorcery and Cecilia -- I have added to the notes. I would also like to add the Afterword and Excerpt to the contents, as per this edition. Is that OK? Also, on my copy of the book, the chocolate pot on the cover is not bright blue, more of a dull purple. Is it the same for yours? BungalowBarbara 00:51, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

"The Moonball", by Ursula Moray Williams

I added a few notes (the 1st & 3rd) to your verified publication. Chavey 03:44, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Sir Harold

Hello! I this verified 313450 could you please check the name of the artist , is it Stephan or Stephen Fabian. Thank you! ForJohnScalzi 01:36, 28 February 2013 (UTC).

It is the AN version, Stephan. Dana Carson 05:29, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

I added the Canadian price to your verified

I added the Canadian price to your verified [66].Don Erikson 21:48, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

In the Shadow of Omizantrim

Hello Dcarson, the signature on the cover of this publication is that of Fernando Fernandez. See here for identification of this signature. Thank you. Horzel 21:28, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

The City in the Glacier

The signature on the cover of this publication is also that of Fernando Fernandez, not 'Bechaudes'. See here for identification of this signature. Thank you. Horzel 21:32, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

The Destiny Stone

Same for this publication, signature and cover art are by Fernando Fernandez. Thanks. Horzel 21:35, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Oh, and The Sundered Realm too. Horzel 21:39, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

"The Space Olympics", by A. M. Lightner

Your notes on this publication said that your copy was price-clipped. My copy is not, so I added a price, and removed that note. I also added the last two notes. Chavey 05:47, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Doc Savage: His Apocalyptic Life

The cover artist of this verified pub and it's 2nd printing was identified on the PJF international bibliography. I changed the credit and added notes and a link to the artist's website. Thanks, --Willem H. 06:45, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Verne's The Hunt for the Meteor

I've added the introduction, appendix and interior art to Verne's The Hunt for the Meteor. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 14:21, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

I added the Canadian price to your verified

I added the Canadian price to your verified [67].Don Erikson 20:55, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Waldo & Magic pb Price

I think there is a typo in the record for your verified pub Waldo & Magic, Inc.. Your note, and the scanned cover indicates a price of $1.50 ("451-W7330-150 on spine."), but the record shows $0.95. I suspect it was missed when you cloned an earlier printing. I have a 6th printing in hand with a price point between the earlier 0.95, and less than the proposed 1.50 for the 7th. - Cheers - Kevin 00:37, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Gordon R. Dickson's Guided Tour

In your verified Forward!, the Gordon R. Dickson poem that was titled "The Guided Tour" has been changed to Guided Tour. The absence of "The" was confirmed with another verifier and is consistent with the Canadian edition of that publication. Let me know if there are any issues. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 23:15, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

"The Evil in Pemberley House", by Philip José Farmer & Win Scott Eckert

In your verified publication, a quote from Pride & Prejudice is listed as by "Jane Austin". Can you check whether that was simply entered wrong, in which case it should be corrected to "Austen", or whether they misspelled it, in which case it should be varianted to "Jane Austen". Thanks, Chavey 18:30, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

I added the Canadian price to your verified

I added the Canadian price to your verified [68]& [69].[[User:Don Erikson|Don Erikson]18:57, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

I added the Canadian price to your verified

I added the Canadian price to your verified [70].Don Erikson 19:05, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Added cover scan and artist note to Honor Among Enemies.SFJuggler 04:28, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

Left of Africa

Added panoramic cover scan plus expanded notes (and new price) to Left of Africa.SFJuggler 03:14, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

The VMR Theory

I added notes to The VMR Theory. Bob 19:43, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

Fire in a Faraway Place

I added front-end content to Fire in a Faraway Place. Bob 20:02, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

Cain's Land

I added notes and front-end content to Cain's Land. Bob 20:11, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

Jack of Eagles

I added a cover scan and words to the notes for Jack of Eagles. Bob 19:53, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

A Small Colonial War

I submitted added content for A Small Colonial War to include the items on the front end. This same content is part of the first printing and later books in the series. Bob 18:17, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

Pandora's Planet

I added the gutter code and other information to the notes for Pandora's Planet. Bob 16:32, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

The Trouble with Aliens

I added words to the notes for The Trouble with Aliens. Bob 16:39, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

The Gods of Mars & The Warlord of Mars

I added the gutter code for my copy to the notes for the pub. Bob 13:30, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

Kalvin Kingmaker

I added a cover scan and words to the notes for Kalvin Kingmaker. I also added Roland Green as an author, based on the title page. If you object to this addition, please feel free to remove his name, but it seems to me that the title page is normally the basis for title and author. Bob 14:57, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

The Deathworld Trilogy

I added another gutter code to The Deathworld Trilogy. Bob 03:46, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

Cherryh's Rider at the Gate

Added an interior art record and a Canadian cover price to your verified pub Rider at the Gate. The interior art, an uncredited map, is the same as that which appears in the sequel, Cloud's Rider. Thanks. PeteYoung 07:47, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Double Contact

I added some words to the notes for Double Contact. Bob 20:12, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

Sir Harold and the Gnome King - De Camp

Added LCCN & OCLC links plus some notes to Sir Harold and the Gnome King.SFJuggler 05:09, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

Halfway to Anywhere: Achieving America's Destiny in Space

Added cover scan and notes to Halfway to Anywhere: Achieving America's Destiny in Space .23:07, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

Space Folk

Added notes and cover scan to Space Folk.SFJuggler 19:48, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

The Evil in Pemberley House

When you have a minute, could you please double check that "Pride and Prejudice (quote) is attributed to "Jane Austin" rather than to "Jane Austen" in your verified The Evil in Pemberley House? TIA! Ahasuerus 04:06, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

My typo. Fixed. Dana Carson 01:12, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
Thanks! Ahasuerus 01:35, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

The Deadly Isles

I've modified the cover artist for this publication from Adams to Norman Adams, since I found the cover between the rotating images on this webpage. Horzel 10:39, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

The VMR Theory

I added the LCCN link to The VMR Theory and the Canadian pricing. MLB 02:39, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

Joel Rosenberg's The Sleeping Dragon

Replaced the Amazon image of Joel Rosenberg's The Sleeping Dragon with one I scanned. You are listed as (sole) Primary reference. Doug 14:28, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Assassin's Apprentice

I've updated the cover image for BKTG06284. The amazon image has drifted to a more recent printing with a different cover image. DStandsh 15:18, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

I added the Canadian price and number line to your verified

I added the Canadian price and number line to your verified [71].Don Erikson 19:29, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Maiden Flight

Added cover scan and notes to Maiden Flight.SFJuggler 22:50, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

I added cover credit to the verified

I added cover credit to the verified [72].Don Erikson 21:08, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

I added a printing and Canadian price to you verified

I added a printing and Canadian price to you verified [73].Don Erikson 23:45, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Schmidt's Aliens and Alien Societies

Regarding your verified pub, I've removed the subtitle "A Writer’s Guide to Creating Extraterrestrial Life-Forms" from the pub and title records as it appears on the cover only, not on the title page, and added this detail to the Note. PeteYoung 17:54, 10 March 2015 (UTC)

The Wizard of Lovecraft's Cafe

Added new scan and notes to the above. Doug / Vornoff 18:57, 11 March 2015 (UTC)

Escape from Loki - March 2015 updates

Just a heads-up to the effect that I have changed the page count of our mutually verified first printing of Farmer's Escape from Loki from 231 to 214+[17] as per this discussion. I also rewrote the Note to clarify the situation with Locus1. Ahasuerus 02:31, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

Take Back Your Government!

Added notes and cover scan to Take Back Your Government!SFJuggler 04:10, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

Dreamweaver's Dilemma by Lois McMaster Bujold

In the sixth printing of this book, the author of "Miles Naismith Vorkosigan: His Universe and Times: Timelines" is given as Suford Lewis. Mhhutchins wants this to be discussed before it can be changed, so let's discuss. Any objections to making this correction? I've invited Hauck, Biomassbob, Dsorgen, and Willem H as well since they have each verified some of the previous printings. Nihonjoe 21:52, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

A notice at the top of Dsorgen's talk page states he isn't active anymore, so it's unlikely we will get participation from there. Nihonjoe 21:55, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
I agree to the change. The article itself has no credit given, but Lewis is credited for it in the TOC in the original hardcover edition. I'm don't know who varianted the credit as shown, or where that information originated, but I hope that editor will contribute here. Bob 00:15, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
IIRC there was a lenghty discussion on the subject as given authorship varied with time. I'm ok woth crediting as on publication.Hauck 06:12, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
Please read this discussion and the note on the titlerecord (not the variant!). I'm strongly opposed to any changes. The part credited to Suford Lewis is the graphic part, and is in the database as this interior art piece. --Willem 12:45, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
Okay, we can leave it as is, then. Nihonjoe 15:57, 2 April 2015 (UTC)

Blood Bound by Patricia Briggs

I made a number of changes to your verified copy of Blood Bound: 1) changed ISBN from ISBN-10 to ISBN-13 as this is how it appears in book, on back cover and on copyright page. 2) changed image from this one to another (only difference is in "Bestselling Author" line at top). 3) Added to notes concerning information found on copyright page. 4) Added page number "1" to novel in contents, so it appears properly after map. 5) Renamed map from "The Tri-Cities map" to "The Tri-Cities (map for Blood Bound)" as part of an ongoing project to make map names consistent throughout this series. BungalowBarbara 06:21, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

"Out of This World" by Lawrence Watt-Evans

In this publication, I replaced the Fantastic Fiction image with one I scanned. Added LCCN, printing and pricing text in pub notes. Doug 00:18, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

"In the Empire of Shadow" by Lawrence Watt-Evans

I updated this pub with a scanned image and notes on printing, artist credit, LCCN and manufacture. Doug 00:25, 23 April 2015 (UTC)

Road To Science Fiction Vol 3 (White Wolf)

Uploaded cover art for this book --Mavmaramis 05:10, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

The Magnetic Man

Added cover scan and notes to The Magnetic Man.SFJuggler 04:30, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

I added the Canadian price to your verified

I added the Canadian price to your verified[74].Don Erikson 17:55, 26 May 2015 (UTC)


Added cover scan to The Beyonders Kevin 15:13, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Doc Savage novels

Added/changed notes on your verified The Man Who Shook the Earth. Doug / Vornoff 07:06, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

Added better cover to The Mental Wizard. Doug / Vornoff 07:33, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

Submitted change for cover artist of Meteor Menace from Jim Aviati to James Avati.

Added/changed notes to The Metal Master, Quest of Qui and The Squeaking Goblin. Doug / Vornoff 05:30, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

Myth-Told Tales

I updated Myth-Told Tales to change the author name from "Robert Lynn Asprin" to "Robert Asprin" to match what's on the front cover. The Amazon Look Inside is for the Kindle edition but inspection of the Look Inside shows that it's a scan of the paperback edition and that it has "Robert Asprin" on the title page. --Marc Kupper|talk 05:57, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

Magic Lost, Trouble Found

Added to notes for Magic Lost, Trouble Found - more details of what's on copyright page, also Canada price. Changed ISBN from ISBN10 to ISBN13 because that is what is shown on back cover, inside front cover, and copyright page. BungalowBarbara 05:54, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

The Playmasters

Added notes to the above. Doug / Vornoff 05:27, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

Change to name of map for Moon Called

I have changed the name of the map in Moon Called from "Moon Called (map)" to "The Tri-Cites (map for Moon Called)" to be consistent with the rest of the books in the series (see listing for Michael Enzweiler). I'm working from the first printing. BungalowBarbara 23:03, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

Cover price

of this pub is shown in Canadian $ too. --Zapp 18:59, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

So for this pub. --Zapp 19:25, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

How Few Remain

Added cover scan and extensive notes to How Few Remain.SFJuggler 02:33, 16 May 2016 (UTC)

Dog Wizard

I've added a reference to the map of The Wizards' Tor and the Citadel of Wizards. AndyjMo 15:56, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

The House that Jack Built

I've added a few Publication Notes to The House that Jack Built AndyjMo 20:26, 30 June 2016 (UTC)

Alliance of Equals

When you get a chance, could you please take a look at this version of Alliance of Equals? It's an ARC and we typically do not enter ARCs. Ahasuerus 20:10, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

Forgot that. OK will delete. Dana Carson 06:56, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

Mage Quest

I've added a reference to the map for Mage Quest. AndyjMo 21:09, 16 July 2016 (UTC)


I've changed the Cover Art for Cetaganda as it was for a later printing (different price). --AndyjMo 15:40, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

Blood Trail

I've uploaded a scanned cover image for Blood Trail to replace the Amazon image. I've also added a few Notes. --AndyjMo 09:40, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

Virtual Destruction

Added better cover scan to Virtual Destruction.SFJuggler 02:30, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

Heat Stroke

I've changed the author of the poem "Heart and Mind" in Heat Stroke from 'Edith Rachel Caine' to 'Edith Sitwell'. --AndyjMo 17:51, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

Chill Factor

I've added a reference to the Cover Artist for Chill Factor as he is mentioned on the copyright page. --AndyjMo 18:09, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

In the Stormy Red Sky

I've replaced the Amazon cover for In the Stormy Red Sky with a scan of my copy --AndyjMo 16:31, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

A King Beneath the Mountain

I've added a few Notes to A King Beneath the Mountain. --AndyjMo 17:26, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

A Knight Among Knaves

I've added a few notes to A Knight Among Knaves and changed the cover to a scan of my copy. --AndyjMo 18:12, 3 September 2016 (UTC)

Cruel Zinc Melodies

I've replaced the Amazon cover art of Cruel Zinc Melodies with a scan of my copy - it has the RoC logo in the bottom right hand corner. --AndyjMo 16:23, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

Masterminds of Falkenstein

Locus1 confirms Publication Date of Masterminds of Falkenstein as April 1996. --AndyjMo 11:04, 14 September 2016 (UTC)

Season of Shadows

I've updated the Notes to include a reference to the Cover Artist. --AndyjMo 15:22, 5 October 2016 (UTC)

Flag In Exile

Added a LCCN link for this book. MLB 23:44, 6 October 2016 (UTC)

Heirs Of Empire

Added some notes and an adjusted page count for this book. MLB 01:27, 7 October 2016 (UTC)

Dog Wizard

I've replaced the Amazon cover for Dog Wizard with a scan of my copy. I've also added a few notes. --AndyjMo 21:05, 18 October 2016 (UTC)

The Wizard of Rue Morgue

I've added a few notes to The Wizard of Rue Morgue. --AndyjMo 15:36, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

The Wizard of Camelot

I've added some notes to The Wizard of Camelot. --AndyjMo 15:47, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

The Last Wizard

I've added some notes to The Last Wizard. I've also altered the Cover Artist to the alternate name as stated in the Copyright Page. --AndyjMo 15:54, 25 October 2016 (UTC)

Galatea in 2-D

Added to the notes of this publication. MLB 08:28, 13 December 2016 (UTC)

The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai: Across the Eighth Dimension

Added cover scan and notes to your verified copy of The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai: Across the Eighth Dimension.SFJuggler 05:23, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

The Gnomewrench in the Dwarfworks

I've Added Notes to The Gnomewrench in the Dwarfworks. --AndyjMo 12:27, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

The Gnomewrench in the Peopleworks

I've added Notes to The Gnomewrench in the Peopleworks. --AndyjMo 12:32, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

East of the Sun, West of the Moon

I've replaced the Amazon cover of East of the Sun, West of the Moon with a scan of my copy and added some Notes. --AndyjMo 15:15, 3 February 2017 (UTC)

The Heir Apparent

Added the source of the Cover Artist and the Printing History to The Heir Apparent. --AndyjMo 18:40, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

Not Quite Scaramouche

Replaced the Amazon Cover Art of Not Quite Scaramouche with a scan of my copy, also included the Printing History. --AndyjMo 13:52, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

Cinderella, Inc. vs Cinderella, Inc

Hi, I've merged Cinderella, Inc with Cinderella, Inc. as the copyright page indicated that it was a 1952 story and though it is mentioned as 'Cinderella, Inc' in the TOC it says 'Cinderella, Inc.' on the title page.--Dirk P Broer 13:49, 2 March 2017 (UTC)

Rules of Conduct

Added some notes to Rules of Conduct. MLB 02:30, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

The Bavarian Gate

Added some notes and content to your verification of The Bavarian Gate. MLB 23:21, 3 April 2017 (UTC)

The Three-Cornered War

Added the LCCN and the ISBN to your verification of The Three-Cornered War. MLB 00:52, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

The Bookman

Replaced Amazon cover art for The Bookman with a scan of my copy. Also added extra printing history and source of Cover Artist. --AndyjMo 12:17, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

Kitty Goes to Washington

Added Printing History and other price to Kitty Goes to Washington. --AndyjMo 11:19, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

The Armageddon Inheritance

Replaced the cover art of The Armageddon Inheritance with a scan of my copy. --AndyjMo 12:09, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

Heirs of Empire

Replaced cover art of Heirs of Empire with a scan of my copy. Also added source of the Cover artist. --AndyjMo 12:14, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

The Honor of the Queen

Replaced cover art of The Honor of the Queen with a scan of my copy and added Notes. --AndyjMo 19:48, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

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