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Hello, Don Erikson, and welcome to the ISFDB Wiki! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will insert your name and the date. If you need help, check out the community portal, or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome! Ahasuerus 16:16, 11 Jun 2007 (CDT)


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From This Day Forward / Judas

I changed the pagenumber for the story "Judas" from 59 to 89 in this verified pub to match my copy. Willem H. 13:43, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Approved to clear the queue. Please speak up if it's different in your copy. Ahasuerus 14:06, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Ringworld

I added a cover image to your verified pub RNGWRLDMTS1977. Thanks. --Rtrace 18:35, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Sheckley's Pilgrimage to Earth

Can you check the ISBN of this pub? Thanks. MHHutchins 17:47, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Just saw that it's the same pub as this pub (except for the ISBN). You may have missed it because it was incorrectly listed as from Bantam instead of Ace, which I just corrected. MHHutchins 17:50, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
That's exactly what happened, so I would say just cancel my addition. Don Erikson 18:13, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Operartion Longlife-- added cover/notation

Afternoon! This. [1] . I added a cover image and notation after matching my copy to your ver. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 20:47, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

... and I have just approved Harry's similar changes to your verified Operation Exile. Ahasuerus 20:57, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Operation Exile-- added cover/notation

Afternoon again. This. [2] . I added a cover image and notation after matching my copy to your ver. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 21:14, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

The Weird of the White Wolf

I added a cover image to your verified pub THWRTWLFBA1977. Thanks. --Rtrace 03:37, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Master of Hawks

I added the cover artist an a note to this verified pub. Willem H. 20:01, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Also adde this cover scan. Willem H. 15:16, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

David Shobin's The Obsession

Check the notes for this pub. I think there may have been some copy-and-pasting remnants. Thanks. MHHutchins 19:14, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Actually I did the same thing on another book until I noticed and was (& did) fix it later. Don Erikson 00:19, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Fox's Earth

I see that you would like to enter Anne Rivers Siddons' Fox's Earth into the database, but as far as I can tell from Amazon reviews, it's not speculative fiction. We have only one other Siddons book on file, which is apparently bona fide spec fiction, but that doesn't quite make her an established SF writer, nebulous as this exalted title is. I wonder if Fox's Earth belongs here? Ahasuerus 02:19, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

This was laziness on my part. The cover has the look of a generic '80s horror novel, scanning the back cover copy I saw "evil", "demonic", "reign of evil", & "unholy mistress", and made an assumption. So after further review I would say to just cancel this entry and I'll take it as a lesson learned.Don Erikson 15:00, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
Will do, thanks! Ahasuerus 17:12, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Silbersack's anonymously published "Science Fiction"

I've changed the authorship of this No-Frills book to "uncredited" and made a variant making John Silbersack the author, based on the notes you provided. Thanks. MHHutchins 16:08, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Tower of Glass (Bantam 1983)

You've submitted an edit to remove a note from Tower of Glass that states "Third Bantam printing." and replace it with one that states "Stated 1st printing as per number line." I approved it, but I notice that there are actually 2 previous Bantam versions of this title. Do you think we could add a little more information to the note, so if someone links into it they will know that this is just the first printing of this particular Bantam edition? Thanks Kevin 04:38, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

My mistake. I meant for it to be a 3rd printing and will change it...wait for it...NOW!Don Erikson 04:44, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Approved the correction. Thanks for double checking! Kevin 04:51, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Simak's All the Traps of Earth

After accepting your submission for a new pub of this title, I saw that there was an almost-identical verified one already in the database. The only difference is the "...and Other Stories" in the title. Just an oversight, or am I missing something? Thanks. MHHutchins 05:03, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

I see what you mean. You are right, feel free to eliminate the errant entry. Don Erikson 04:51, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Archiving your talk page

Have you ever considered archiving your talk page? It takes me several scrolls just to reach the bottom of your TOC. If you would like help, instructions, or to have it done for you, please just ask. Thanks - Kevin 04:38, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

I'm willing to archive my page, I'll look into it...hmmm knowing my level of computer skills any assistance would be appreciated. By the way, and you probably already know this, but if you push the "End" button it will take directly to the page bottom.Don Erikson 05:00, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Yes but the [END] key is so small on this laptop. Seriously though, the reason I visit a page is usually to see if someone left you a note about changing a verified publication. What I actually want to do is cruise your TOC and when it's longer than a page or two it can get unwieldy. As to the act of archiving... just click this link User_talk:Don_Erikson/Archive_01, then click edit. Open your talk page in another window/tab. Edit the whole page. Copy then Paste from one to the other, and add a line near the top of your page to link to your archive page, which is [[User_talk:Don_Erikson/Archive_01]] Kevin 22:42, 18 May 2009 (UTC)


I hope this works (see top of page)Don Erikson 19:40, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
Looks great! - Kevin 21:39, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Signing 'Notes'

Signing notes with your initials (DWE) may help the approver who can see your ISFDB login, but it won't help folks looking at the record weeks, moths or years later. If you feel the need to leave an opinion, or want to sign a note, I personally recommend using your ISFDB Login. Kevin 04:42, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Good idea. I'll change my Notepad file were I keep all the Note sentences I use often.Don Erikson 05:03, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
I'm glad I'm not the only person who does that. Kevin 05:23, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Now, I know who DWE is!. Many times I have seen that with a note with vital information. Thanks, greatly. Harry. --Dragoondelight 12:07, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Enchanted Pilgramge

I rejected your edit to Enchanted Pilgrimage because your edit would have replaced "Month of publication from SFR #49 (November 1983)" with "Stated 1st Ballantine books edition." While your addition was good, unless the publication itself states a month ofpublication, this could be bad. I will resubmit a replacement edit. If the publication states the actual month, we can remove the other line of the note. Thanks (and my apologies if I stepped on your toes... after I rejected it, i realized it very well may state the month. I'm still getting used to this Moderating thing Thanks again Kevin 04:48, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

It does state the month.Don Erikson 05:06, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks! - Pub updated as you submitted (With a sheepish apologetic smile). Kevin 05:22, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

Silverberg's Sunken History

The Literary Guild isn't the actual publisher of this edition. It was (is?) a book club that reprints other publisher's editions. Ordinarily the books themselves still credit the original trade publisher. In this case we would show "Chilton / BCE", and add to the notes that it was a book club edition and a selection of the Literary Guild. If it had been a selection of the Science Fiction Book Club (another Doubleday book club) we'd credit "Chilton / SFBC". Thanks. MHHutchins 18:06, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

OK I see. The copyright page of the paperback said just Literary Guild so I guess i should have investigated more thoroughly. So it's now changed how you suggested.Don Erikson 00:37, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Ruler of the World

Added a cover image to [[3]] --Bluesman 21:29, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

The Door Into Fire

I added a cover image to your verified pub BKTG02233. Thanks. --Rtrace 05:26, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Dragonslayer

I added a cover image to your verified pub DRGNSLRSSF1981. Thanks. --Rtrace 12:25, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

The Others

Scanned in a cover image for [[4]] and added some notes. --Bluesman 02:26, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

Blazon - cover image/start page

Morning! This. [5] . I added a cover image matching my copy to your ver. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 13:42, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

The Comet Kings

New editor JLochhas added a note and a cover artist to your verified pub 248924. I approved it, but feel free to remove or alter it if you think it improper. -DES Talk 21:26, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Captain Future's Challenge

New editor JLochhas added a note and a cover artist to your verified pub 248927. I approved it, but feel free to remove or alter it if you think it improper. -DES Talk 21:46, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Isle of Illusion

If this is a game book[6] would it not be under nonfiction, also this author has only one title and it doesn't appear to be spec-fic. The artist is well cover here, is this the reason for its inclusion or is this more of a novel and less an rpg? Thanks!Kraang 01:38, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Tiger River

I added a cover image to your verified pub TGRRVRLPWC1971. Thanks. --Rtrace 05:46, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Queen Cleopatra

I added a cover image to your verified pub QNCLPTR1962. Thanks. --Rtrace 13:37, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Beyond the Curtain of Dark

Re: this title. I accepted your "update" of the 1966 Four Square edition, thinking you probably meant to clone it. (I cloned this before accepting your update to create an identical record for the one you over-wrote.) I also accepted your submission adding the 1972 New English Library edition. Strangely, the two pubs you created have the same date, and I believe that Four Square had become NEL several years before 1972. Can you check to see if a copy of records have become conflated? Thanks. MHHutchins 03:20, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

I did mean to clone. And the Four Square should have been Pinnacle (I've fix it now). The NEL edition DOES have the same date as per copyright pages. Don Erikson 14:41, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Black Corridor

Added a Currey note, re "textual differences" to[[7]]--Bluesman 23:43, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Editing (updating) instead of cloning

I have a submission updating this pub of Children of the Lens when I'm pretty sure you wanted to clone it instead. In the past, when you've done this, I usually just clone the original pub, before accepting your submission. (This has happened quite a few more times than I've brought to your attention.) In this case I can't do that because it's a verified pub, and the verification would carry over to your updated pub (making it the second printing), not the original (which was the first printing.) This time I'll use the information you've provided for the new pub, and then reject your submission. All I can ask is that you look at the submission screen and make sure that it states "Help on cloning..." instead of "Help on editing..." before clicking the submission button. Or start from scratch by using the "Add Publication to This Title" tool. Thanks. MHHutchins 21:35, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

All I can say, as I'm nearing my 10,000th entry, that mistakes are inevitable, and I will try even harder in the future to do better. (For example I just fixed 5 typos in that last sentence.) Is it because the Edit & Clone buttons are next to each other or is it my inherent ineptitude? (2 typos).

I vote it's me as anyone who enters here is ultimately responsible for their work. (1 typo.) I'll strive to do better. (0).Don Erikson 17:20, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Seven Footprints to Satan

I added a cover image to your verified pub SVNFTPRNTS1971. Thanks. --Rtrace 02:40, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Merlin's Ring

I added a cover image to your verified pub MRLNSRNGCT1974. I also added the introduction and the maps to the contents. Thanks. --Rtrace 12:44, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Skylark of Valeron

Please recheck your notes on the various printings of Skylark of Valeron you submitted today. You left comments about the 1-3 & 4th covers being Jack Gaughan while inserting a database credit to Emsh. You may want to clarify that the publication has information crediting the earlier editions/printings to Gaughan, or remove the note if I am misunderstanding what is going on here. Thanks Kevin 17:58, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

I approved your updates regarding the notes explanation. I understand now that 1st printing credited Emsh, while the 3rd and 4th printings credited Gaughan. In cases like this, I would usually seek a tie breaker bit of information or a comparison of styles before making an actual attribution. My reasoning is that it's just as likely that a copy editor made a mistake (incorrectly crediting Emsh) which was later corrected, as opposed to a later copy editor making a mistake and crediting Gaughan, which was copied again to the 4th. Is there any signature credit visible? or is there any other source that discusses this misattribution and sets the record straight? We may want to credit all 4 covers to both artists, and then explain in the notes of each pub the confusion and that no definitive answer is at hand. (This may likely prompt someone to point out an article somewhere which sets the record straight). - Thoughts? Kevin 22:32, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
After finding more printings shelved out of order I realized a totally screwed up with this cover artist problem. In the end the only mistake by the publisher was that they misattributed Gaughan as EMSH of the back cover of the 3rd printing. (I can't say what's on the 2nd printing.) So this was totally my fault & I'll fix it.Don Erikson 15:00, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
Not a problem. Mistakes mean we can learn and are human, as opposed to software which will never get better on it's own. Kevin 16:19, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Skylark Three SKLRKTHR1966

I rejected your proposed update to Skylark Three which proposed to replace the text "Stated 1st printing." with "Stated 3rd printing." as it appears to be an intention to clone the pub record, not update it. Also, was the third printing of that edition dated the same month as the first printing? I leave the re-entry of a clone to you. Thanks Kevin 22:22, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

I'll take care of it.Don Erikson 15:10, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
After checking the book the edit I just did id now correct, as I entered the wrong printing number when I first entered this printing. So as usual it's my mistake.Don Erikson 15:14, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. BTW I have submitted a few change requests to the software to better help editors (like you and like me) spot our typo's and unintended consequences. Hopefully once we can all see the red/green comparison (Like you see after submitting an author edit) we will be able to fix our own mistakes. I know that was one of the most frustrating things about waiting for someone else to review my submissions. Kevin 16:23, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Vanishing Tower

Added a cover image and a couple of notes to [[8]] --Bluesman 19:26, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Added a cover image and a Currey note to [[9]]--Bluesman 20:10, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Prince of Scorpio--- added notation

Morning! This. [10] . I added notation matching my copy and the omnibus to your ver. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 15:08, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

My 10,000th edit!

I think. If I did my math right. It's six toes on each foot right? Don Erikson 17:52, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Yep, you did it. I just approved your 10,000th. Congratulations! MHHutchins 18:05, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
Welcome to the club! I wouldn't rest for too long though, Bluesman is 34 ahead of you. BLongley 18:08, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
BTW, 10,000 decimal is 10011100010000 binary, so I think you need seven toes per foot to represent it. ;-) BLongley 18:12, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

I - - Alien

I think I have the same abomination as you so uploaded a cover scan. I'm not sure that it's really "I, Alien" - I know it says that on the copyright page, but title page, cover, spine, introduction and every single page heading seems to suggest "I - - Alien" or at least "I--Alien" instead. Also, should this just be "Ace" (as the distributor.)? "Tempo Star" seems a bit more detailed. BLongley 21:29, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

Cyrion

I added a cover image to your verified pub CYRION5C1982. Thanks. --Rtrace 13:22, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Ballard's The Crystal World

Added cover image to your verified pub of this title. MHHutchins 00:31, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Garbage World

I've linked a better cover image to your verified copy of this title. Could you check to see if the publisher is stated as "Berkley Books" or "Berkley Medallion" on the pub's title page? Thanks. MHHutchins 05:17, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

It is Berkley Medallion.Don Erikson 16:46, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Get Off My World

Added a cover image to [[11]]--Bluesman 03:00, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Puzzle of Space Pyramids

Added a cover image and the contents as listed by Contento to the notes of [[12]]--Bluesman 04:09, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde and Other Stories

I see that you would like to add Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde and Other Stories as another Publication for the Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde Title. Wouldn't you want to add it to a Collection Title instead, though? For example, there is a 1980 title, Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde and Other Stories already on file, although its only publication seems to have a wrong cover. Ahasuerus 05:15, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

I thought I did it as a collection, I'll fix it when I add the contents.Don Erikson 15:26, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
It's now ready for Contents-mongering :-) Ahasuerus 01:26, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Knave of Dreams

Can you double-check the ISBN of this printing of the title? Your submission changing the ISBN made it an invalid number. Thanks. MHHutchins 21:19, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

That ISBN is how it appears on the book.Don Erikson 15:25, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. I'll make a note about the invalid ISBN. MHHutchins 16:01, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
I thought that as per Rules and standards discussions#Dealing with Bad ISBNs the working ISBN (when one can be derived, as it can in this case) should go into the DB field, and the stated but invalid ISBN should go into the notes. -DES Talk 16:19, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
That was a discussion about changing the policy (or creating a new one), which currently, by default, is to record the ISBN as stated in the book. I believe the notes I added to the pub deals with the situation to the best of the database's ability. The pub is linked to OCLC through the notes, and anyone wanting to get info from Amazon or abebooks have a "working" ISBN. The record is also searchable by ISBN, even with the "#" before it. If we change the ISBN to the "working" number, what's to keep another editor from creating another record because this record doesn't match his copy of the book-in-hand? MHHutchins 17:18, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

Find Your Fate Adventure #1 Indiana Jones

Don, I found a cover image[13] and the name appears as R. L. Stine. Is Jovian Bob Stine on the title page or the copyright page[14]? Thanks!Kraang 00:14, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

AARGH!! I did it again. A group of similar books shelved next to each other, each by an author with the same last name but this time by three different authors. (Jovial Bob, R.L. & H. William) I'll go back and fix 'em. BTW I have a book by Jovial Bob Stine titled 101 CREEPY CREATURE JOKES from Scholastic. Is this a book eligible for entry? And if so under what category? Collection? Nonfiction?Don Erikson 15:23, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
I found the series it belonged to and merged it with a later printing[15] and "101 CREEPY CREATURE JOKES" belongs in some data base just not this one :-) Thank!Kraang 02:23, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Gentlemen of the Road -- ISBN Checksum

Your recently submitted 291242 has an ISBN that does not pass the checksum test. You submitted 0345502070, please check if this is what the publication shows. Amazon shows 0345502078 for the Sept 2008 edition, and 073949631X for the 2007 Edition, which it credits to Ballentine. ISBNdb.com shows 0345502078 and 0345501748. -DES Talk 22:57, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't think I've ever entered a book that only uses the 13 number ISBN & didn't notice that this book doesn't even have a 10 number one. It appears on the copyright page & the back cover this way. The 13# ISBN shown generated by the 10# I entered though is correct as to what is on the book.

Using Mark's Check Number Generator the check # should be 9, looks like a typo somewhere on their part.Don Erikson 23:36, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Sightblinder's Story -- nongenre?

You entered Sightblinder's Story as non-genre. But this record records it as a genre novel. I haven't read this, so i don't know whether thi is a genre novel or not, but we shouldn't have two title records of different types for the same text. Also, the other novels in THLSTSWRDS0000 need to be merged. -DES Talk 23:05, 8 June 2009 (UTC)

It was a slip of the cursor, it is not a nongenre but a novel. The titles are as the appear on the title page. They appeared in book form as having the lead in "THE (FIRST or SECOND or THIRD) BOOK OF LOST SWORDS:" and then the novels title. They seems to have been published by Orbit without the lead in part of the title. As to merging, I have never merged before (well not here anyway, nudge-nudge-wink-wink) I'll look into how.Don Erikson 23:46, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
I suspected that, but wasn't sure. See Help:How to merge titles for more on merging. For every editor there comes his first merge Buuu ha ha..... :) 23:55, 9 June 2009 (UTC)~~

Cold Chills

Added a cover image to [[16]]--Bluesman 00:03, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Firebug

Added a cover image to [[17]]--Bluesman 00:59, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

Tiberius

I've added a cover image to your verified pub. MHHutchins 03:12, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Lair of the White Worm and Variant Title 'Garden of Evil'

I am going to reject your submission to add a publication of Garden of Evil as a publication of Lair of the White Worm. While some folks already have put some versions of 'Garden' under the 'Lair' title, it actually should be entered under the Variant 'Garden' Title. I am going to clean up those other entries, and I've pasted your submitted information below so you can reuse it. Just go to Garden of Evil and use the "Add Publication to this Title" link on that page. If you need more info on variant titles (How, When, Where, etc), just ask and I will dig up the proper help links, and convert it into real world examples for you. - 

Column 	Proposed Values
Title   The Garden of Evil
Authors 	Bram Stoker
Tag 	-
Year 	1969-02-00
Publisher 	Paperback Library
Pages 	220
Binding 	pb
PubType 	NOVEL
Isbn 	#63-790
Price 	$0.60
Artists 	-
Image 	-
Note 	Stated 2nd printing. Originally titled THE LAIR OF THE WHITE WORM.
OCLC: 2480528
OCLC states that this was labeled "A paperback library gothic" apparently a publisher series.

Thanks - Kevin 18:24, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Done & done.Don Erikson 19:27, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
And Submission accepted. Thanks! Kevin 19:34, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
FYI I created the variant title record earlier today, and have added several pubs to the main title. i was going to unmerge the "Garden" pubs and put them under the variant, i see you got to it first. -DES Talk 19:40, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Aliens 4 by Sturgeon

This cover art for pub was verified by Bluesman as unidentified with no visible signature. Do you have a source or can you give him the location of the artist's signature? Thanks. MHHutchins 21:23, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

I left a note for Blueman the I confirmed the credit from a Spanish web site with a gallery of Spanish artists. It is here;

http://anjosvestemdolcegabbana.blogspot.com/2008_03_28_archive.html.

Don Erikson 01:21, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm unable to find any note that you left on Bluesman's talk page, but I'll accept the edit based on your source. Thanks. MHHutchins 23:28, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Watership Down

I added a cover image to your verified pub WTRSHPDWNX1975. Thanks. --Rtrace 11:57, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

Horses' Asteroid

Scanned in a cover image for [this] and added notes. ~Bill, --Bluesman 04:17, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

The Demons of Sandorra

In your recent edit to The Demons of Sandorra, why did you remove the note "Data from OCLC record 7419071". Even if you have now checked the data against the book itself, this pub has no ISBN and so the automatic navbar link to the worldcat record will not be av bailable, therefor the OCLC record number is stile IMO valuable, even if the note were changed to simply "OCLC 7419071. No printing or edition stated." or something of the sort.

I have placed the submission on hold pending your response. -DES Talk 16:41, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

At the time I thought the OCLC number to be redundant as I was editing from a copy of the book, but later changed my mind thinking there can't be too much information. Just cancel this edit and I'll redo it.Don Erikson 17:03, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
Ok will do. Thanks. -DES Talk 19:57, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
Edit rejected. Replacement edit approved -DES Talk 20:15, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

The Cleft

In your edit to The Cleft (as in the item above) you removed the note "Series "Pyramid science fiction". Data from OCLC record 7419119". Again I think the OCLC record number is worth retaining. Whether the rest of the note has current value I'm not sure.

I have the submission on hold. -DES Talk 16:45, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

As above, I'll redo it and leave the OCLC#, but the note "Series "Pyramid science fiction" I felt was inaccurate as there is no specific "series" from Pyramid and that what is on the cover "PYRAMID SCIENCE FICTION" next to the catalog number and price is only the publishers name and the genre of the book. The book THE TORTURE MACHINE has "A PYRAMID THRILLER" in the same spot on its cover.Don Erikson 17:10, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
I have no problem with you deleting the "series" if you worked from the book and feel it is inaccurate. I will, as you request, reject this submisison and approve the replacement submisison.. -DES Talk 19:59, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
Inital edit rejected. -DES Talk 20:16, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

The Doomsday Brain

You entered a record for The Doomsday Brain in which you included the note "Stated 1st printing. Nongenre". Is there a reason not to use the NONGENRE type? (You entered it as a NOVEL type, which normally means a genre novel.) Or was this something you were planning to change in a later edit?

I have the submission on hold. -DES Talk 16:51, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

On a similar note. I approved the addition of The Torture Machine. It has a similar 'nongenre' note. Please change the record to Nongenre, or remove the note. I will leave the correction to you as you see fit. - Thanks Kevin 17:44, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Yes the reason is simple; I'm simple! I simply forgot how. But now the scales have fallen from my eyes (where's that damn broom) and now eye see. I will redo both of these correctly as I hath learnt mine lesson.Don Erikson 17:20, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
Me again. There is the problem of not being able to make a "New Novel" a nongenre without it first being accepted. Or am I totally wrong?Don Erikson 17:51, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
You are correct. There is no way to enter a non-gnere in a single step. it must be approved as some other type -- novel is as good as any -- and changed. I should have realized what you were doing. I will approve your original submisison on this. -DES Talk 20:01, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
Initial edit of The Doomsday Brain approved. Edit of The Torture Machine to NONGENRE type approved. -DES Talk 20:18, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
WOW! I don't think I ever realized you couldn't directly enter a Non-genre novel by changing the drop down choice (or if I did it escaped me). Would you like the honors Don of submitting the Feature Request? I think it's valid and would support it. Thanks Kevin 00:49, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
I know what he was doing and why. :-) Live and learn. :-)Kraang 02:12, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
"Add New Nongenre" (and after r2009-05, "Add New Chapterbook") could be added to the menu and Kev is already working in those areas of coding - I wouldn't make them too easy myself though. So if we enabled a change to NONGENRE before a new NOVEL was submitted, it might help without encouraging such. Again, this is a balance between "exploiting a loophole" and "making things easy when you know what you're doing". But the loophole currently exists for Chapterbooks and might be enabled usefully for non-genre novels too. BLongley 21:27, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

The Godsend - Clone or Edit

I rejected your edit of 'The Godsend' published by Avon. Your edit would have erased the current record of a $1.95 copy with ISBN: 0380320290. Abebooks confirms this ISBN and price point as existing. (See the cover scan). I copied the submission info below for you to re-use to submit a clone, instead of an edit. 

Title 	The Godsend 	-
Authors 	Bernard Taylor 	-
Tag 	THGDSNDSLK1977 	-
Year 	1977-03-00 	-
Publisher 	Avon 	-
Pages 	223 	-
Binding 	pb 	-
PubType 	NOVEL 	-
Isbn 	0380320290 	0380009439
Price 	$1.95 	$1.75
Artists 	- 	-
Image 	- 	-
Note 	- 	Stated 1st Avon printing. Catalog #32029

I leave the resubmission to you. Thanks Kevin 17:50, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

I will resubmit to your every whim.Don Erikson 17:22, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
Resubmission approved - or some edit for this title anyway. -DES Talk 20:20, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Sweetheart, Sweetheart

You submitted an edit to Sweetheart, Sweetheart changing the date from 1992-00-00 to 1992-01-00; changing the price from $3.99 to $4.50; and adding the note "Assumed 1st printing." However, Lotus lists a publication of this at $3.99 which was received in December 1991. Is it possible that there was a printing at $3.99, followed by a prince increase shortly afterwards? If so your copy would be a 2nd printing, and should be an additional publication.

I have the submission on hold, pending your response. -DES Talk 17:59, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

I should have just trusted my instincts and clone instead of edited. I will redo it.Don Erikson 17:28, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
Thank you -- I hope I haven't been too much of a nuisance. Hate to query so many items in such a short time. I will reject this and let you do the clone, which should be approved promptly. -DES Talk 20:03, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
Initial edit rejected, clone approved. -DES Talk 20:21, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Stardust and Shadows -- ISBN

I approved your submission of Stardust and Shadows. However, the ISBN field holds "-55817639X" which looks almost like a ISBN. ISBNDB.COM shows "155817639X" as being a valid ISBN for this title. Was that the ISBN you had in mind? -DES Talk 18:05, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

"One so rarely see ones beginning ISBNs that this one I done missed completely, even though the typo of using a "-" instead of a "0" is my usual typo which I usually catch. I fixed it now.Don Erikson 17:33, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
Really? I thought 1s were pretty common although not as common as 0s. Anyway, thanks for the fix. -DES Talk 20:04, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

Teg's 1994

In editing 283526 you changed the note "Data from UC Riverside. OCLC 2950782." to "Stated 1st printing". I assume you are working from a copy of the book, and so "Data from UC Riverside." is obsolete, But why remove "OCLC 2950782"? Granted it is no longer as vital, but I think it is worthwhile. -DES Talk 20:50, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

That was a mistake on my part, I now try to leave all OCLC numbers.Don Erikson 16:32, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
Very well, I approved the edit, adn aded the OCLC number back in. Thanks. -DES Talk 16:37, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

The Alien Way

I added a cover image to your verified pub THLNWNMKXL1982. Thanks. --Rtrace 19:35, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

As Evil Does

Can you check the ISBN for this pub? It comes up as an invalid ISBN. Thanks. MHHutchins 21:01, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Sorry. It was a typo by me the second 0 should have been a 9. I've repaired the damage.Don Erikson 21:10, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

J. R. R. Tolkien's "The Lord of the Rings"

"A Fotonovel of Ralph Bakshi's animated film THE LORD OF THE RINGS." Isn't this getting perilously close to Graphic Novel territory? Are you sure this should be IN? -DES Talk 05:06, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Other "Fotonovels" have been included, by other publishers too. Off the top of my head: INVASION OF THE BODYSNAYCHERS; BATTLESTAR GALLACTICA; HEAVEN CAN WAIT & and several STAR TREK ones. Stills from an animated movie do have the appearance of a comic but do not have the graphic...umm...vocabulary of a comic. Don Erikson 17:55, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
This seems to be in already, with "over 130 pictures from the movie" according to Amazon. BLongley 18:15, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
Fine I'll approve it. -DES Talk 20:03, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Camber the Heretic

I made significant upgrades to the contents and notes of your verified pub Camber the Heretic - Sorry it was the only copy I owned. This is a work in progress to identify and merge appendixes across the various Deryni publications I own. Comments welcome. I'm going to go through the original Deryni Series tomorrow and try to match up some more, etc. Cheers - Kevin 06:13, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Conan of Aquilonia

Added a much clearer image to [this] plus the Roman Numerated pages from OCLC, which also mentions a map, but not what page/title etc. Perhaps you could add that to the contents? Thanks. ~Bill, --Bluesman 23:06, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

I have added the map.Don Erikson 18:11, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Children of the Atom

This SFBC edition was actually the March 1981 selection of the book club. Gutter codes "L" were used in both 1970 and 1981. I was able to verify the date in Locus #243 (April 1981) who also gives the price as $3.50. You can use this info to update the record, or if you prefer, I could. It also appears to be an original publication (not a trade reprint), so the publisher would have been Nelson Doubleday. If you have a copy can you double-check how the publisher is credited? Thanks. MHHutchins 19:42, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

I did as you suggested add credit Locus for info.Don Erikson 18:12, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

BCE of Clarke's 2010: Odyssey Two

Can you see if the pub you've submitted a new record for matches this record? Also when you get a chance take a look at these guidelines for entering SFBC editions. The ISBN on your submission is for the trade edition. Sometimes the book club will reprint the copyright page of the trade edition without removing the ISBN, but we use the SFBC catalog number (on the back of the dustjacket) as the ID, not the trade ISBN. Thanks. MHHutchins 18:41, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

They are not the same. My copy has no number of any kind on the jacket, inside or out. On closer inspection there is a square indentation on the back, so maybe this is an edition from a different book club.Don Erikson 17:42, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
Oh yes, that must be a Book-of-the-Month Club edition. Locus1 doesn't note it in their listings. Thanks for the clarification. MHHutchins
I've accepted the submission, but changed the "Book Club" tag to "BOMC". I also moved the ISBN to the notes. Forget what I said about Locus1, which only starts in 1984. So this 1982 publication wouldn't be listed anyway. I'll pull out my hard copies of Locus and see if I can find a listing for it so that we can narrow down the date and get a price. Thanks. MHHutchins 18:28, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
Locus had no listings for a BOMC edition (I checked issues from the month of the hardcover, October 1982, until the paperback was issued in February 1984.) There is a listing for a trade paperback reprint from QPBC, who are owned by the BOMC. So they must have missed this hardcover reprint by the BOMC. We'll have to leave the date and price fields blank for now. MHHutchins 18:42, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

SFBC edition of Lord Foul's Bane

Thanks for adding this edition of the title. I had added a previous record as a placeholder, not realizing that this first printing had a different catalog number than the later printings. I also added the price from the club announcement flyer. If you've got a copy of this hold onto it. It's pretty valuable as far as book club editions go. MHHutchins 19:00, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

I just added the cover image to the record. MHHutchins 19:04, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
Really? I think I have that edition. How valuable? -DES Talk 22:40, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
Copies on ABE range from $25 to $96.Don Erikson 17:50, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

The Dragon Waiting

I added the cover artist and a note to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 09:18, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

The Fellowship of the Ring

You have entered data fro a LOT of different printings of The Fellowship of the Ring. Do you actually have copies of all these different printings? If not, what is your source? None of the edits seemed to have any source notes. -DES Talk 17:10, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Boy am I glad you asked! Because I made a couple of real bone-head mistakes. If you just cancel everything I've done up to this time today I'll fix things. BTW I do own more than a dozen copies of them. Then I realized I was not attributing the dates of editions I was inputting from a later printing. And then I realized I screwed some pub numbers & was making a few unsupported assumptions. So just cancel this mornings debacle and I'll start over.Don Erikson 17:36, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
As Requested - All Edits from 11:50 to 12:20 Server Time have been rejected. Kevin 17:53, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

Legacy

Bluesman has updated your verified pub Legacy with artwork and several notes. FYI. Kevin 00:29, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

The Crash of '79

When you get a chance, could you please double check whether your verified Pocket Books edition of The Crash of '79 is a first printing? Thanks! Ahasuerus 02:04, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

I doesn't specifically state a printing. It says "POCKET BOOKS edition published November, 1977" with no other indications of previous Pocket printings, so I would assume it is the 1st.Don Erikson 18:48, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, Notes updated. Ahasuerus 18:53, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Multiples of The Fellowship of the Ring

I just accepted your new submissions but noticed that there are now two records for each of the 3rd-5th printings of this title. I'm holding the submission adding another record for the 7th printing. Thanks. MHHutchins 17:27, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

I have entered a "Delete this pub" request for these earlier and less complete entries. The latest entry for the 7th printing should replace the one I did yesterday. I now plot these multiprintings on paper first instead doing them on the fly (because fly are so small).Don Erikson 18:03, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
I'll accept the new 7th and delete the old one. Thanks. MHHutchins 18:11, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Horses' Asteroid

I added an additional story (Many Dreams Of Earth on page 120) and a note to this verified pub to match my copy. Thanks Willem H. 15:46, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

Also, "Horses' Asteroid" was originally published under a different title. Made "Horses' Asteroid" the canonical title since the collection also has that title.--swfritter 16:23, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

The Two Towers - Edit not Clone

I kicked back the below submitted edit. It appears to be a clone, but was in the queue as an Edit. I leave it for you to re-enter the data. Thanks Kevin 03:43, 10 July 2009 (UTC) 

Title 	The Two Towers 	-
Authors 	J. R. R. Tolkien 	-
Tag 	THTWTWRSTJ1966 	-
Year 	1966-09-00 	1971-08-00
Publisher 	Ballantine 	-
Pages 	447 	-
Binding 	pb 	-
PubType 	NOVEL 	-
Isbn 	#U7041 	#01534
Price 	$0.95 	-
Artists 	Barbara Remington 	-
Image 	http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/b/b1/THTWTWRS1965.jpg 	-
Note 	Stated 6th printing. First authorized paperback edition 	Stated 29th printing. First authorized paperback edition. Except for the number & price this cover image is the same as shown.
I have redone this. I still seem to be having problems with these 2 buttons being next to each other (I mean I'm the one having problems). I'm not 100% convinced though that sometimes Edit page comes up when I click Clone it's my fault, being it has happened again. Could be my browser or could be I'm a total idiot (are those the only 2 choices?) Maybe different background colors or...something would help.Don Erikson 19:21, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
I thought the recent navbar changes were to include moving these teo links apart, to avoid this problem. I can say that the precise placement of the mouse point when the link is clicked matters. -DES Talk 19:52, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
You may be right DES, but it slipped my mind when I was putting together the final collection of edits. Kevin 00:20, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
Ok. Here's what happened this morning. I went to clone an entry I made yesterday and carefully clicked "clone" but I had yet to log on, I went through those steps and when done I arrived at an "edit" window. Going back to the original listing both the "Edit" & "Clone" buttons were highlighted as pushed though I had only pushed "Clone". Maybe this the only set of circumstances this bug comes up, but I swear I'm not crazy. Well at least not about this.Don Erikson 17:22, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

SFBC editions of Countdown by Slaughter and Childhood's End by Clarke

This pub was not a selection of the SFBC, but was probably a selection for another Doubleday book club. In these cases, we usually add " / BCE" to the publisher's name indicating a book club edition. Also, your updating of this edition of Clarke's Childhood End leads me to think this is a phantom edition. All of my sources give the first book club edition as May 1970 (this edition). The "K36" gutter code would most likely indicate a printing in 1980. Thanks. MHHutchins 06:57, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

I changed the SFBC to BCE like you recommended. As to the Clarke, the gutter code (K36) could also mean it was printed Sept. or Nov. of 1969. The cover design would look a little retro for a 1980 printing but who knows. I'll leave a note and change the date to 00-00-00.Don Erikson 14:56, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
The SFBC would occasionally reissue an edition with a new catalog number and cover, but not often. If your copy has this cover and has a catalog number 2266, it's probably the same edition, just a later printing. In 1969, their catalog numbering was 1600-2100; 1970 had numbers 2100-2600. I'd bet money that this is the same edition as this. MHHutchins 16:08, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
Where the number is can identify it as well. If yours is on the back cover it is most definitely not a '69 printing as the numbers weren't moved to the outside until the late 70's. In fact. I would like to know where your # is, to help narrow down the date range for the move. Thanks! ~Bill, --Bluesman 00:16, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Search for Spock

Scanned in a cover image for [this] --Bluesman 02:46, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

The Book of Philip José Farmer

I added Farmer's essay Thanks for the Feast to The Book of Philip José Farmer to match my copy. Thanks Willem H. 12:44, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

The Dragon at War -- cover image

I added this image to your verified The Dragon at War. --MartyD 10:47, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Effinger's Planet of the Apes 1-3

Just an FYI that I have updated your verified Award editions of these three Titles with minor details about the copyright page. I have also entered additional information about the teleplays that each novel is based on to the Title records. Ahasuerus 19:35, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

P.S. Also added notes to your verified edition of Bunduki. Ahasuerus 19:42, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

Rally Cry

I have added the Canadian price and a few other minor tidbits to your verified first printing of William R. Forstchen's Rally Cry. In addition, I have added the following comment to the Publication record and to the Title record:

According to the Locus Index, at least the third and possibly other printings changed the title from "Rally Cry" to "Rally Cry!", but there is no exclamation point in the first printing.

I have created a Variant Title for "Rally Cry!" and moved later printings there. Hope this matches your data! Ahasuerus 17:39, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

P.S. Also added notes about the number line and the Canadian price to Union Forever and Terrible Swift Sword and removed from "The Lost Regiment #2/3:"from the titles as per our recent practice of removing series information from publication titles. Ahasuerus 17:56, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

The House That Stood Still

I approved your edit of The House That Stood Still , which changed the cat no "#83185-8" to an ISBN: "0-671-83185-8". However, when displayed, this ISBN fails to pass the checksum validation. If this is the actual ISBN that appears on the book, we should make a note that it was printed with an invalid ISBN, I think. If it was a data entry error, of course it should be corrected. If the ISBN was derived from the cat number or another secondary source, then either a note about the source should be entered, or perhaps a reversion to the cat number, since an invalid derived ISBN is not of much use. Please check what is actually on the pub, if you would be so kind. -DES Talk 20:04, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

It WAS an entry error and it has been corrected.Don Erikson 14:54, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
Correction approved. -DES Talk 16:19, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Assignment in Eternity

I Updated your pub Assignment in Eternity (Signet $0.25 Edition) with "First Printing, November, 1954" in the notes. Thanks Kevin 22:01, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Book of PKD

Added some notes to [this], all from Currey, who notes the existence of ten lines of "First through Tenth" as being on the copyright page. Is this true? Is so, could you remove the quote marks and Currey's name from the note? Also a note to Marc Kupper's page would be appreciated as he is doing a rather exhaustive DAW research and this copyright page printing designation was quite rare in the DAWS. Thanks! ~Bill, --Bluesman 23:58, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

I checked the book. Curry's right, so I submitted the removal of the quote marks and Currey's name from the note. Thanks Willem H. 14:56, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Take My Face by "Peter Held"

I accepted your submission for this new pub, but it was entered under the wrong title record. At the moment it's under this title, and it should be under this one, a variant as by "Peter Held". When entering pubs using the "Add Publication to This Title" function, the system will automatically fill the title and author field. If those do not match the book you're entering, back out and use the "Add New Novel" function. If there's a variant already established you can click on it's title which is listed on the parent's title record, then choose "Add Publication to This Title". In order to correct the mistakenly-linked title record for this pub, you'll have to 1) unmerge it from Take My Face by Vance, 2) change it's title record's author to "Peter Held", and 3) then merge this newly created title record with the existing Take My Face by Held title record. This is done by 1) using either the Advanced Search using the field and author fields, or 2) going to Peter Held's summary page, clicking on "Show All Titles", and then merge the two records. As you can see this is a multi-step submission process. If you feel comfortable enough in attempting go ahead and I'll check over the submissions. Or say the word, and I can do it myself. Thanks. MHHutchins 19:27, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

The publication was merged with the existing variant record and is now under the correct title record. MHHutchins 14:07, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Escape to Tomorrow

Added a cover image to [this]. ~Bill, --Bluesman 16:00, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

And to [this] ~Bill, --Bluesman 16:33, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

And to [this] ~Bill, --Bluesman 16:44, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

And to [this]. ~Bill, --Bluesman 18:50, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Over the Edge

Added an image and artist credit (from OCLC) to[this] ~Bill, --Bluesman 03:30, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Jailbird

Hi Don - I'm holding your proposed price change for the verified Jailbird from $3.50 to $3.25 so that the verifying editor can take a look and comment. I see that the cover image says $3.25 but sometimes people use the cover from another edition. --Marc Kupper|talk 16:54, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Hey, Don! Mike dropped me a note on this. Is your copy printed in the US? Mine is printed in Canada, which likely explains the different prices. If so, then create a new record and I'll change mine to add "C" to the price. When I look very closely, the "50" part of the price on my cover is slightly askew, likewise on the spine. ~BIll, --Bluesman 17:04, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
Bump as this is still held on the queue. --Marc Kupper|talk 22:07, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
Don - I rejected your update as Bill had double checked his copy of the 1st printing and he has $3.50. His copy is printed in Canada. The odds are you have a USA edition meaning you'd clone, note the new price, and in this case that it's the USA edition. --Marc Kupper|talk 04:56, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
You were correct in rejecting this, it should have been a clone & was a USA 1st printing. I'll will redo it. And sorry for the delay.Don Erikson 05:44, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Wagner's Echoes of an Ancient Love

Can you check the ISBN on this pub again? It came up as an invalid number. Thanks. MHHutchins 19:43, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

It was a typo & I done fixed it real good!Don Erikson 23:08, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Body Snatchers

Added a cover image to [this] --Bluesman 22:56, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

Anything...

Added a cover image to [this]--Bluesman 21:03, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

Nightside City

Your proposed new pub looks like BKTG19351 unless maybe yours was not "printed in canada". I have your submission on hold, pending your response. -DES Talk 19:45, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

I don't know what I did wrong, maybe...umm...I guess just cancel this & I'll redo.Don Erikson 15:08, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Trek Lives

Scanned in an image and added notes for [this] ~BIll, --Bluesman 22:53, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Where do we go from here?

Scanned in an image for [this], added notes and all of the essays to the contents. ~Bill, --Bluesman 17:21, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

From This Day Forward

Scanned in a new image and expanded the notes (identified the interior art by signature) for [this]. ~Bill, --Bluesman 17:21, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Sea is Boiling Hot

Added a couple of notes and a new image to [this] ~Bill, --Bluesman 05:06, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Cain's Touch

Can you re-check the ISBN for this pub? It comes up as invalid. Thanks. MHHutchins 23:20, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

My fault, the ISBN on the spine is hard to read, should have been carefuller.Don Erikson 01:42, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
Oh & I fixed it. Some much for being carefuller.Don Erikson 01:43, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

The Ka of Gifford Hillary

I have deleted the 1964 Arrow edition of The Ka of Gifford Hillary as per your request. Here is the data that you originally submitted in case you want to use it to create another submission: 

Title 	The Ka of Gifford Hillary
Tag 	THKFGFFRDH1964
Year 	1964-00-00
Publisher 	Arrow
Pages 	352
Binding 	pb
PubType 	NOVEL
Isbn 	#543
Price 	3/6
Image 	-
Note 	Stated 4th printing.
Authors 	Dennis Wheatley

Thanks! Ahasuerus 15:56, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Captives in Space

Found a cover for this. BLongley 15:11, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

Out from Ganymede

In verifying my copy of this collection I found two stories that didn't match. 1. "Still-Life" is attributed to K. M. O'Donnell, but the pseudonym isn't mentioned in the book. 2. "Yearbook" is stated to be "The Yearbook", but should be "Yearbook". Can you check your copy please? Thanks Willem H. 20:21, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

The story "Still-Life" is attributed to K. M. O'Donnell only in the credits and no where else, and the other story is just "Yearbook" as you thought.Don Erikson 19:45, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
Submitted the neccesary changes. Thanks, Willem H. 09:49, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

I, Martha Adams

I approved the update to I, Martha Adams where you changed the price from $3.50 to $3.95. Could you check to see if you have a Canadian printing? I'm trying to track down a reasonable explanation for the $3.50 price as you have a 1st printing. --Marc Kupper|talk 21:30, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

It say printed in the USA & it's a 1st printing. Could it be a 2nd printing where they didn't change the copyright page?Don Erikson 17:48, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

R Is for Rocket

Hi Don - You have verified R Is for Rocket as the 14th printing.

Could you please take a look and let me know what the dates of the 9th, 10th, and 12th printing are? I have a copy of the 10th that has dates for up to the 8th printing. I'm constructing a table here to sort out the printings. Thank you. --Marc Kupper|talk 21:57, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Oddly enough, back when I was between computers I started a the same sort of list of Bantam Bradburys, I was waiting to finish my first run thru my books to finish it. From my list: 9th=9/70; 10th=5/71; 12th=11/72. Here's some info on The Martian Chronicles: 13th=3/67=H3243; 14th=8/67=H3243; 15th=12/67=#?; 22nd=10/69=#?; 23rd=7/70=#N5613 --- I just discovered that there's a problem with the rest so instead of giving you questionable info I'll stop here.Don Erikson 18:09, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

The Fellowship of the Talisman - added cover/start page

Morning! This. [18]. I added a cover image, [19], and start page after matching my copy to your ver. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 14:35, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

"Threshhold"

You want to update this - can you please check the number of "h"s in the last word? BLongley 19:23, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

It is one "h" only. I didn't notice.Don Erikson 15:23, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
I'll take that as "2, not 3". ;-) Approved. BLongley 20:28, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Snakeskion Road

This might be "Snakeskin Road"? BLongley 21:41, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Could be. Maybe. Possibly. It is. I fixed it. Now I need to fix myself.Don Erikson 15:20, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
If only it were that easy. :-( I don't seem to have come with a maintenance manual myself, although several doctors have told me what it should have said. Unfortunately, replacement parts seem to be hard to come by now, I'll have to settle for having a few screws loose. BLongley 20:35, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Nightside City by Lawrence Watt-Evans

I have been holding an edit of yours submitting a new pub of Nightside City for some time. I thought I had posted about this on your talk page, but I can't find any such post. My apologies.

The issue i have with your edit is that the new pub seems to be a duplicate of BKTG19351. Is there anything in your copy which would indicate that it is a different publication form the one already on file? -DES Talk 20:22, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay. It is the same except my copy is printed in the USA while the one already listed is printed in Canada. I must have not noted this difference.Don Erikson 05:38, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Fine. I will approve your edit and add a note. -DES Talk 14:21, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Approved. The result is here. Please double check. -DES Talk 14:23, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Did I do something wrong? I could have sworn I changed the notes to say it was printed in the USA. Well I fixed again and hope I got it right this time.Don Erikson 18:29, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
No I got mixed up on which pub was which, and altered the note incorrectly, it seems. I just approved your latest edit. Please double check that all editions of Nightside City are now correct. Thanks. -DES Talk 18:59, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Looks OK now.Don Erikson 05:13, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. Case closed, I trust. -DES Talk 12:44, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Jailbird queued

Hi Don - Could you please take a look at #Jailbird and comment on it? Thank you. --Marc Kupper|talk 04:31, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

I went to the aforementioned post and hopefully answered your concerns. (Boy! do I love that word "aforementioned")Don Erikson 05:48, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Where Do We Go from Here? anthology

User: Bluesman has submitted edits to your verified pub Where Do We Go from Here? that would:

  • Add a cover image (Image:WHRDWGFRMH1972.jpg
  • Add content items for the various introductory essays
  • Add publication notes
  • Replace "- And He Built a Crooked House" (leading hyphen) with "—And He Built a Crooked House—" (leading and trailing dashes)
  • Replace "Heavy Planet by Lee Gregor " with "Heavy Planet by Milton A. Rothman"
  • Replace "Night by John W. Campbell, Jr." with "Night by Don A. Stuart"
  • Replace "The Cave of Night by James Gunn" with "The Cave of Night by James E. Gunn"
  • Change the page number for "The Deep Range" from 238 to 237

Do you have any objections to any of these changes? This edit was actually submitted some time ago, and I apparently failed to communicate with you in a timely way, so Bluseman has been patiently waiting for some time. So if you could respond fairly soon, it would save any further delay and help make up for my inexcusable delay. -DES Talk 14:19, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

I find all these changes unobjectionable.Don Erikson 18:33, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Edit approved, merges done. Thanks for your quick response, putting me to shame. -DES Talk 19:10, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Slaves of Sleep

I added the preface and a note about the cover artist to this verified pub, to match my copy. Thanks Willem H. 10:07, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

The Disappearance -- 1952 ed

You submitted an edit for a new pub of The Disappearance. This looks very much like the same publication as this printing, which was verified by Scott Latham on 2007-04-20 21:11:50. So far as I can see, the only difference is that your record has "Stated 1st printing" and the existing record has no printing number mentioned. Please check and consider whether it would be better to update the existing record. I have your submission on hold pending your response. -DES Talk 22:05, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

It seems that User:Mhhutchins has approved your edit, but please check if one of the two pubs shouldn't be deleted as a duplicate. -DES Talk 22:07, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

My copy is from Feb. 1952 and states it is the 1st printing while the other, which I cloned from, is from April 1952 and without a note I assume was a later printing.Don Erikson 00:25, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
thanks. -DES Talk 17:41, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

When Worlds Collide -- 1962 eds

Is there meaningful difference between This publication and this one? they are both for 1962, both for Paperback Library editions at $0.50, both with covers by Richard Powers, and if the Dec printing is the first printing, it seems unlikely that there was a 2nd the same year. Is there a reason not to delete one of these as a duplicate? -DES Talk 17:40, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes it does seem unlikely, but I had no definitive information that the are the same. So I erred on the side of caution.Don Erikson 00:09, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

The Best of John Wyndham 1932-1949

You submitted a new pub of this. Your note says "A reprint of the 1975 edition." but your submitted pub is dated 1975-00-00. The existing verified Sphere edition is dated 1977. Please clarify. I have this on hold pending your response. -DES Talk 17:50, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

I should have removed that from the cloned note field. I try now to keep as much useful info from the original source. Don Erikson 00:05, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
No Problem, I'll approve and edit. -DES Talk 00:09, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
The result is here. -DES Talk 00:11, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

The Day of the Triffids -- Fawcett Crest ed.

You submitted an edit for a new pub of The Day of the Triffids with an unknown date with price $0.75 and cat #T1322. This looks very much like This pub, verified by Dragoondelight on 2009-09-15 07:08:14. Do you see a significant difference? I have your submisison on hold. -DES Talk 20:55, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Was this the one I noted was printed in Canada?Don Erikson 00:00, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, yes that is the difference. I will approve. -DES Talk 00:06, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Wyndham's The Midwich Cuckoos

I'm holding a submission which appears to be identical in all respects to this pub record. Thanks. MHHutchins 21:09, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Twice in two days. What are the odds, DES? :) MHHutchins 21:09, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
Resolved. Pardon moi. Thanks. MHHutchins 21:24, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

The Midwich Cuckoos

You submitted an edit for The Midwich Cuckoos 1976 Ballantine ed, $1.50, cover by Dean Ellis, stated 7th printing. It looks a lot like this pub, verified by Dragoondelight on 2008-10-13 09:43:29. The only difference I see is the publisher list as "Ballantine Books / Random House" on the existign pub, but that might be just a different way of listing what is there. Do you think the two pubs are actually different? I have your edit on hold. -DES Talk 21:14, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

I missed another one, should have been more careful. I noticed I had made this mistake soon after I did it. Should I in the future, re-enter with a note to ignore last post. I've done so in the past but several minutes had past so I waited to be lambasted (for good reason) here. So just ignore this entry. Sorry to be making so much extra work for our valiant moderatorbots.Don Erikson 23:56, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
No problem. If this occurs in future, the best method is probably to post on the Moderator noticeboard with an "Ignore submission" notice, and make a new submission updating the existing pub. -DES Talk 00:03, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
I'll reject the duplicate. -DES Talk 00:03, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
If if happens again? I'm sorry to say I can guarantee a future cascade boobistic half-assery from this end.Don Erikson 00:14, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
Well, none of us is perfect, but I didn't want to imply i was sure you would make an error. Anyway, for all the books you enter, your error rate is not all that high. -DES Talk 00:17, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
SEE! I meant future cascade OF boobistic half-assery

The King of Elfland's Daughter

I added a cover image to your verified pub THKNGFLFLN1973. Thanks. ~Ron --Rtrace 00:09, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

The Ecolog

Scanned in a cover image, added notes and the introduction (first one I've seen in a LASER) to [this] ~Bill, --Bluesman 03:07, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Something About Eve

I made several changes to your verified pub SMTHNGAE1971: I added a cover image, increased the title to include the subtitle, added interior art and author's note and page numbers. I also removed the note that the date was from the second edition, since we can verify it with this one. I would have expanded the title of the Carter introduction to "About Something About Eve and James Branch Cabell: The Fair-Haired Hoo", but since that is shared with a later publication, I'm going to ask the verifier of the other edition first. Let me know if you concur with that change (or indeed the other ones). Thanks. ~Ron --Rtrace 03:47, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Looks good to me.Don Erikson 16:12, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

The Reign of Wizardry - is cover?

Morning! Is this your cover? [20]. It is not mine for the 73 april ed. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 13:34, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

No it is not. This is the cover of the 1968 printing. The '73 printing tan with the title in black & the Frazetta art smaller.Don Erikson 16:10, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Beyond the Fields We Know

I added a cover image to your verified pub MLO2174. I also added the ISBN, roman page count, Carter's afterword and expanded the title of the introduction. Let me know if you disagree with any of the changes. Thanks. ~Ron --Rtrace 01:04, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Whirligig by Brunner

Hi, could you doublecheck if there's an exclamation mark as part of this title as published here http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?MLO1058 Thanks Jonschaper 04:19, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

There is no exclamation point on the Acknowledgments page, Table of Contents, or the story itself.Don Erikson 16:02, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
Cheers -- looks like there may be a variant then Jonschaper 04:37, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

The Explorers

I added the cover artist and a note to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 15:45, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

The Gods Themselves -- cover image

I added this image to your verified The Gods Themselves, matching my copy of the same edition. --MartyD 17:24, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Last Communion

Isn't this the same as that? BLongley 19:15, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

They are the same. I can't tell you what happened, but I can tell you what will. I will fix it.Don Erikson 01:03, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Circle, Crescent, Star - add cover

Morning! [21]. I added a cover image, [22], after matching my copy to your ver. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 12:26, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Asimov's The Currents of Space

You made a submission updating this SFBC edition of The Currents of Space which changes the catalog #00097 to 0385079427 (ISBN presumed), but then you note "Copyright page gives a ISBN as 0-55329341-9, which is the ISBN of the Bantam Spectra paperback." Where is the first ISBN located? Keep in mind that unless the ISBN is assigned by the SFBC, most publisher-assigned ISBNs should be placed in the notes (see here for a list of SFBC assigned ISBN ranges.) Thanks. MHHutchins 04:56, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

It's a mystery for sure. The ISBN I used is on the back cover opposite the catalog number. A search of this ISBN brings up on ABE, 5 copies of van Rijn Rembrandt Harmensz's "Art for children" and one "Currents of Space". Cancel this & I'll redo it.Don Erikson 21:24, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
I did the same search on Abebooks with the same results. Funny thing is the 0-385- ISBN range is owned by Doubleday who was the original publisher of the hardcover edition of this title. In the 90s, the SFBC had just started using ISBNs and were bound to screw up at least once! I'll delete the submission. Be sure to add that second (back cover) ISBN to the notes. Thanks. MHHutchins 21:55, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

So Long, and Thanks for All the Fish

I added this cover scan to your verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 20:09, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Inside Outside

I added this cover scan to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 21:16, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Kelwin

I added this cover scan to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 21:20, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Rediscovery: A Darkover Novel

I added this cover scan to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 20:14, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Bioblast

I added this cover scan to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 20:12, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

The Fall of the Towers

I changed the page number of the Author's Note in your verified pub FLLOTTR1970. It has been listed on page 7, which has an epigraph on my copy. I changed it to page 2 (counting backwards from 7, which is the first numbered page). Thanks. ~Ron --Rtrace 01:26, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

The October Country

I added a cover image to your verified pub CTBRCNT1968. I also added an item for the illustrations to the contents. Thanks. ~Ron --Rtrace 01:57, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Northworld: Vengeance

I added this cover scan to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 12:42, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

R Is for Rocket

I added this cover scan to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 11:35, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

The Left Hand of Darkness -- various printings

I have approved several of your submissions adding printings to The Left Hand of Darkness, and rejected one at your request. But there are three I have questions about or issues with. These are:

  • Your update to pub 271039. This changes the pub date from "1973-06-00" to "1972-11-00". Is there any possibility that there was both a November 1972 and a June 1973 Ace printing? Also, you add the cover artist as Josh Kirby. Is this credited in the book? if not, what is the source?
The copyright page says "Third Ace printing; November 1972". The copyright page of the 7th printing says the 4th printing is June 1973. The cover is signed.
  • Your update to pub 253078. This changes the note from "Month of publication from Locus #167, November 20, 1974." to "Stated 7th printing." Is there a reason to remove the note of the Locus confirmation? If you have verified the date from the book-in-hand, why not change the note to "Stated 7th printing. Month of publication confirmed in Locus #167, November 20, 1974." or some such? Also, is Alex Ebel credited in the book, or is he known because this is the same cover art used on so many printings? Or how?
Because I have the book I thought the Locus citing as redundant, but if you feel otherwise I have no problem with keeping it. The signature, though reversed, is clearly visible
  • Your update to pub 261037. You removed from the notes the statement "There is a signature on the front cover, unreadable as printed, but it is a mirror image of a stylized signature 'Alex Ebel'." is this incorrect?
I guess there was no real reason to have removed the note, it just seemed a little redundant again. If you feel it should remain I have no problem with it either.

I have these three submissions on hold pending your response. -DES Talk 20:03, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Keep up the good work.Don Erikson 18:35, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
Thank you. All three submissions approved, and edits made to reinstate relevant notes, as per above. I am going more and more to retaining or adding notes of "redundant" data confirmations, so that if a verifier becomes unavailable, a known citable source is still listed. This is not yet an ISFDB-wide policy, although i think things may be heading that way. Not every editor agrees, however. -DES Talk 16:46, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

The Maker of Universes

I added this cover scan to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 15:23, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

The Golden Horn

I added this cover scan to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 08:34, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Living Way Out

I added this cover scan to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 10:27, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

The Siege of Wonder

I added this cover scan to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 20:25, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

The Starchild Trilogy gutter code

Your submission to add a gutter code ("I01") to this edition duplicates the one that's already listed in this one. Does the pub have ID #1310 on the inside of the back flap or #01310 on the back of the dustjacket? This is one of those rare cases where we decided that two records were necessary for another SFBC printing (because of the different ID number). Thanks. MHHutchins 06:04, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

I didn't notice the other entry and my copy is jacketless so.....just cancel this.Don Erikson 18:37, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Killer - added cover image

Morning! This. [23]. I added a cover image, [24], after matching my copy to your ver. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 12:58, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

The Dragon Waiting

I added this cover scan to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 15:09, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

When True Night Falls

I added this cover scan to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 13:43, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Once Departed

Added a cover image, unfortunately a place-holder only, to [this] ~Bill, --Bluesman 15:37, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

The Golden People - added cover/start page number

Afternoon!. This. [25]. I added a cover image, [26], and start page number after matching my copy to your ver. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 20:22, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Passing of Dragons

Added an image and printing statement to the notes for [this] ~Bill, --Bluesman 02:04, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Witch of the Dark Gate

I added a cover image to your verified pub WTCHFTHDRK0000. Thanks. ~Ron --Rtrace 13:42, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

The Steersworman - added cover/Can price/start page no.

Afternoon! This. [27]. I added a cover image, [28], Canadian pricing, and start page number after matching my copy to your ver. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 20:54, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

The Light in Exile

I added this cover scan to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 20:55, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

A Cold Wind from Orion

I added this cover scan to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 13:49, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

Clay's Ark

I added this cover scan to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 06:18, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Night Chills Publication date

I approve this submission including changing the publication date to 0000-00-00 but Contento's Pre-1984 Anthology/Collection website gives it date of November 1975].--swfritter 13:46, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

ST New Voyages

I dated your 2nd printing from the 13th, let me know if you mistrust that info. BLongley 18:40, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Keeper - added cover image/start page no.

Morning! This. [29]. I added a cover image, [30], after matching my copy to your ver. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 13:36, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

Change to verified pub Adventures in Tomorrow

this pub. Exiled from Earth is credited to Sam Merwin rather than Sam Merwin, Jr.--swfritter 17:11, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

A Word from the (Human) Editor . . . or Author

You verified one of the publications of War with the Robots. All pubs have the foreword as "A Word from the (Human) Editor . . .", but in my copy it definitely is "A Word from the (Human) Author . . . Can you check your copy? If all entries are wrong (a human error, even contento lists it with editor), the title can be changed. Thanks, Willem H. 20:08, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

All three printings I own say "Author". Don Erikson 21:18, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Rediscovery: A Darkover Novel changed to Rediscovery: A Novel of Darkover

Afternoon! This. [31]. I changed it as above to reflect the title on title page, page opposite title page, front cover and spine. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 21:16, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

The Dueling Machine - added cover image/note on artist/start page number

Afternoon! This. [32]. I added a cover image, [33], note on artist and start page number after matching my copy to your ver. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 21:42, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

Don't Bite the Sun

I added the interior art and a note to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 16:00, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

Starchild - added cover

Afternoon! This. [34]. I added a cover image, [35], after matching my copy to your ver. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 20:43, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Slave Ship - added cover/some notation/start page no.

Morning! This. [36]. I added a cover image, [37], (best I could find), some notation and start page no. after matching my copy to your ver. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 13:09, 28 October 2009 (UTC)

Operation: Outer Space

I Identified the cover artist of this verified pub as Robert E. Schulz, added the information and adapted the notes a bit. Also added the signature to the Signature Images. Thanks, Willem H. 08:32, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Robert Andre / Robert André

The Habitats update is fine, but I'm afraid the change to the accent for cover-artist didn't work in that edit. I think we can do that via author edit if desired though? BLongley 22:19, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

That probably was caught by the "Use existing author" trap which also prevents a change in case via a publication edit. If an entered author matches an existing author according the the search logic, then the existing author is used and the name is not changed. Using author edit is indeed the way to fix this for all pubs, but not if a variant is desired. -DES Talk 22:51, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Alpha Three

Added an image and expanded the printing statement slightly for [this] ~Bill, --Bluesman 22:46, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Plague Ship

Unfortunately, the Amazon image ([38]]) that you originally linked to this publication doesn't work. Ahasuerus 03:08, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Outsiders: Children of Wonder

Could you please clarify whether "About the Editor" appeared at the beginning or at the end of the book? As per Help:Screen:EditPub, we have two different abbreviations for unnumbered pages:

  • bp -- unpaginated pages that precede pagination
  • ep -- unpaginated pages that follow pagination

Thanks! Ahasuerus 04:23, 3 November 2009 (UTC)

It is "ep" & I done fixed 'em real good.Don Erikson 19:13, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
Thanks! Ahasuerus 20:41, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

Second Foundation

Scanned in an image and added notes to [this] ~Bill, --Bluesman 17:10, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

UFOs

Question on your new pub submission, edited by Greenberg: is there a number on the bottom of the back cover? Would be five to seven digits, by itself (not part of barcode area). ~Bill, --Bluesman 19:28, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

The submission is probably a duplicate of this record. This was published as an instant remainder, most of which do not have a printed price. The source for the price was Locus1. MHHutchins 19:32, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
Actually, this being an instant remainder makes a lot of sense, which is probably why I didn't think of it. So just cancel this edit.Don Erikson 18:23, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
That's why Mike gets the BIG bucks. Will cancel. Thanks! ~Bill, --Bluesman 18:41, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Chaos in Lagrangia

I have expanded the Note in your verified Tor edition of Chaos in Lagrangia to read: "Stated first Tor printing. Canadian ISBN 812-55129-X. Price in Canada C3.50. "First Publication Anywhere" on the cover." Also, I have changed the Title date from 1983-00-00 to 1984-03-00 since the 1983-00-00 pub that we had linked to this Title turned out to be a duplicate of The Lagrangists pub. Ahasuerus 00:48, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

Once Departed cross-verified

I have added the following notes to your verified edition of Once Departed:

  • Copyright 1970, but no other publication information is available on the copyright page.
  • "An Original Novel" on the cover.
  • "Complete and Unabridged" on the back cover.
  • Cover art not credited and there is no identifiable signature on the cover although there may be stylized initials in the bottom right corner.

Ahasuerus 04:21, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

A Storm Upon Ulster

Just a note that I have made the following changes to your verified Bantam edition of A Storm Upon Ulster:

  • changed the page count from "309" to "x+309"
  • changed the date of the map from 0000-00-00 to 1981-04-00 to match the date of this edition
  • noted that this is the first edition according to Reginald-3
  • noted that the cover artist is not credited

Ahasuerus 04:08, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Ghouls

Question on this new pub: if there is no statement of edition/printing, where does the date come from? Also, the standard designation in the publisher field is "Publisher" / BCE, where the particular Book Club is not known. Thanks! ~Bill, --Bluesman 03:42, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

The date is from "574" on the inside flap of the DJ. Maybe I was jumping to a conclusion there so I'll chaange it to an unknown date and note the number. And I'll change the the publisher too. Oh right, you're holding this edit. You can send & I'll fix it or you can make the changes. Don Erikson 17:44, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
Approved! Sorry for the delay. ~Bill, --Bluesman 15:37, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Interface -- cover art

I added this image to your verified Interface. --MartyD 13:59, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Best of the Rest

Just approved [this]. In checking Locus1 (which gives the month as May, if you want to add that) that listing has a page count of 128. Is there something they may have counted on unnumbered pages? Just curious. ~Bill, --Bluesman 01:10, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

I'll add the Locus date & credit them but the page count is right Not counting the end papers there five blank pages (except for a black line across the top) after page 113. No way could this be 128 pages.Don Erikson 01:46, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
Okay, will drop Bill Contento a note. Thanks! ~Bill, --Bluesman 01:47, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Looking Back on Tomorrow

Approved [this] Was there no page number for the added Wells story? Both Locus and Amazon list this as a "Student printing/textbook" which is likely why there is no price. ~Bill, --Bluesman 01:23, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

The previous edit left this out so I hand entered but just forgot the page number. Will fix.Don Erikson 01:47, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
Okay!, Thanks! ~Bill, --Bluesman 01:48, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Tales of Time & Space

Was this a cloned submission? OCLC [here] has a ©1977 for what seems to be this pub (and mentions interior art as well). ~Bill, --Bluesman 01:38, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Yes this was a clone of the Whitman HB. When I checked the copyright pager I saw the date in Roman Numerals which means I assumed (there's that word again) that they were hiding the fact that this was a reprint as other publishers sometimes do. But it is 1977 and need fixing.Don Erikson 01:51, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
Okay, will approve and fix away! Thanks! ~Bill, --Bluesman 01:55, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Modern Science Fiction

Added a cover image to [this] ~Bill, --Bluesman 05:16, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Skin Trade

Approved the submission, checked Locus1 [here] and they list this as edited by Winter. Then noticed it is a reprint of Night Visions 5. Seems this record was originally cloned from that edition and the interior art and the introduction are still listed with that title! Seems a little variant/merging is in order. Cheers! ~Bill, --Bluesman 19:49, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Pocket Book SF

Approved [this] and part of the note still reads the same as my third printing. This one doesn't have the list at the end either?? Wonder which printing ever did?? ~Bill, --Bluesman 20:14, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

No list at the end. Pocket may just routinely added this note.Don Erikson 01:23, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Change to verifed pub Five-Odd

This pub. F. L. Wallace rather than Floyd L. Wallace.--swfritter 15:08, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

Wonders of the World

Approved [this] Does the story you added really have the word "Deccision" in the title or was one 'c' enough?¿?  ;-) ~Bill, --Bluesman 03:48, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

I ccan't cconcceive unccorrecctly ...umm... OK I give up trying to be funny. I korrected it.Don Erikson 17:16, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
And I apppproved the korrection....... ~Bill, --Bluesman 19:15, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Monster Festival

Approved your edit to [this] and note that the artist for the interior art, Gorey, is the same as for the cover. Is he credited for both? ~Bill, --Bluesman 19:14, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Yes, on the title page & front inside DJ flap.Don Erikson 06:49, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Starshine

Scanned in an image and imported the contents for [this] ~Bill, --Bluesman 05:29, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Tiltangle

I added this cover scan to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 09:56, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Wollheim's Best Series Two

Approved [this] but I assume it's not a first printing? ~Bill, --Bluesman 18:05, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Ya, I left a note to myself to back and check that one 'cause I couldn't remember fixing it. I will now.Don Erikson 19:58, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Xanadu

Approved [this] but altered the edition/printing statement slightly from "Stated 1st Mass Market edition as per number line" to what's there now. Number lines don't state edition. Later printings will still carry the "1st Mass Market Edition" statement but the number line will be different. ~Bill, --Bluesman 18:43, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Best of If Vol. 1

Confusion: approved the change from Finkel to Frenkel and now you want to change it from Frenkel to Boylan.... but there's just the one pub. What am I missing? Holding this one, awaiting enlightenment.... ;-) ~Bill, --Bluesman 18:57, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

When I saw the cover artist entered as "James Finkel" then saw the name "James Frenkel" on the copyright page I jumped to conclusions. I didn't notice cover credit given to Brian Boylan until later and tried to corrected it. James Frenkel is given credit for "Headnotes" . Headnotes are short (3 to 6 lines) introductions to the author and story.Don Erikson 20:10, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
Okay, shall approve. Thanks! ~Bill, --Bluesman 21:01, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

Best of If Vol II

Corrected a typo for [this ] after approval: "Headnoyes" to "Headnotes" but don't know what that term means. Story introductions? Just curious. ~Bill, --Bluesman 19:06, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

See above about Vol.1.Don Erikson 20:11, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
Thanks! ~Bill, --Bluesman 21:02, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

The Shores of Space

Identified the cover artist (Mitchell Hooks) and added some notes to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 13:45, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

DAW Fantasy

Locus1 has the month for [this] as May (same for the SF paperback from DAW). Is it not listed in the book? ~Bill, --Bluesman 19:14, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay. For the life of me I can't find this book. I know it was just days ago but it's hiding somewhere. When I find it I'll look into this. Are you sure this was me?Don Erikson 18:26, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Diagnosis: Terminal pub date

I noticed Locus claims the publication date of Diagnosis: Terminal is July, 1996 vs. the August, 1996 you used. Figured I'd ask you to double-check while I'm noticing it. Thanks. --MartyD 03:01, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Copyright page says August.Don Erikson 18:27, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Australian Science Fiction

Approved [this]. The added essay, is it really content? It should have (Australian Science Fiction) appended as it's a pretty generic title, like "Introduction". ~Bill, --Bluesman 18:46, 21 November 2009 (UTC)

Accidentally put this on the wrong talk page earlier.... ~Bill, --Bluesman 04:29, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

It is six pages of Australian SF bibliography and mentioned in the table of content. I thought it worth mentioning but I'm not married the idea so if you think it isn't something needing inclusion you may delete it.Don Erikson 18:32, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
Keeping it is fine, just wondered if it would "disappear" with the generic title on it. Bibliographies are a godsend when they appear and being in the record might answer some question later. ~Bill, --Bluesman 20:08, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Beyond the Stars

Approved [this]. Was there a reason for adding the interior art again? ~Bill, --Bluesman 06:15, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

I'm an idiot? That seems to be main reason for things like this.Don Erikson 18:35, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
Just making sure I'm not the only one..... you wouldn't believe all the "odd" edits you can get away with from the MOD side 'cause you can do the self head-slap and fix it before anyone else sees it!!! ~Bill, --Bluesman 20:10, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Nebula Awards 22 pub date

Locus lists the publication date for your newly-submitted Nebula Awards 22 as April, 1988, which may be more accurate than Amazon's March date. I'm checking with Marc Kupper, who verified the tp edition you cloned. If there are no violent objections from either of you, I will change the date and adjust that portion of the notes in both pubs. --MartyD 11:23, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

I have no problems with your change.Don Erikson 18:37, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Cover on The Year's Best Australian Science Fiction & Fantasy

I replaced the LZZZZZZZ image with this one in your new pub submission. --MartyD 13:28, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

That looks good.Don Erikson 18:38, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Question about notes in three submissions

I have a minor question about three of your pending submissions. Do you have the pubs for Journey Across Three Worlds, Futuristic Science Stories, No. 4, and Futuristic Science Stories, No. 8? In all three, you've provided page numbers. In the first two, I noticed you updated the notes but left in the references about the data's coming from various secondary sources. The third has a similar note, but you didn't edit the notes there. I'm wondering if that portion of each of these notes should be updated/eliminated to reflect that now the pubs themselves are the source of the information. I'm new at this and don't mean to be picking a nit, it's just something I noticed and figured I might as well ask about. Thanks. --MartyD 13:44, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

With Journey Across Three Worlds I should have removed some of the notes concerning page count & subtitle, and will. The two others have no dates on them so I relied on the existing note. And don't fear nit-picking is the moderators job.Don Erikson 18:51, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
As we say in this business, "We leave no nit unpicked!" :) Ahasuerus 18:53, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
Is that on the MOD Help pages somewhere???? :-) ~Bill, --Bluesman 20:17, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Nebula Award-Winning Novellas

Approved [this]. Seems very odd that the publisher would be the same, same binding/page count yet be two years later and still say "1st printing". Wonder if maybe you could leave a note on Marc's page. There may be something he can add. ~Bill, --Bluesman 20:03, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

I added more detail to the publication record I had verified. FWIW
  • I have ISBN 1-56619-590-X which states "1994 Barnes & Noble Books / M 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1" and Amazon states "Barnes & Noble (1994)." The book has $8.95 on the back cover and the UPC code has "90000" which means there is no recommended price.
  • Don has ISBN 0-7607-0296-9 - Amazon states "Barnes Noble Books; First Printing edition (January 1, 1994)." Presumably his book states "1996 Barnes & Noble Books / M 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1". --Marc Kupper|talk 21:25, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
I'm back after taking a little break, been a bit burned up lately. The copyright page gives the ISBN for both the paperback & trade paper back. The one for the paperback says "MP 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1" while the other "MT 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1" . Don Erikson 19:10, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
You have both the paperback and trade paperback? If so, then you can clone the TP to make a new record for the PB. I'm guessing that since they changed the ISBN from the TP I had that they restarted the printing numbers at 1. --Marc Kupper|talk 00:57, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Spaceships and Spells

I have your Spaceships and Spells submission on hold since you would like to change the price from $12.95 to $12.89 and add a note to the effect that this is a "library binding" printing. According to OCCL, there were two ISBNs used for this edition, 0060267968 (confirmed by Locus) and 0060267976 (not in Locus, so probably the library version.) I wonder if the ISBN in your copy may be 0060267976 rather than 0060267968? Could you please double check? Thanks! Ahasuerus 00:35, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Since entering this I found I own a second copy with a different binding. I don't remember which I entered, so I canceled it and redo both.Don Erikson 19:17, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks! :) Ahasuerus 19:27, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
OK, I have a question. How do I tell a library binding from a trade one. Of the 2 copies I own the ex-library one has paper boards with a cloth spine covering, thick speckled paper end pages, but is price clipped. The other is bound in shiny plasticy material much like many book club editions, with plain end pages. The inside DJ flap is clipped upper right but lower right is says "Grs 5 up $12.89". So which is which? I'll hold off entering until I feel more informed.Don Erikson 19:40, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Kavin's World

I added this cover scan to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 14:32, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Science Fiction: Contemporary Mythology: The SFWA-SFRA Anthology

Is there no date in this book? Seems you are creating a new record just because there is no price given. Locus1 lists the book exactly as you have entered but gives no price. The same note could go on the existing record. I think that would be a better result instead of ending up with an undated first edition and a dated unknown edition. Thoughts? Thanks. ~Bill, --Bluesman 18:46, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Yes. Of course. You're right, I'll cancel this one too. I'm lovin' this new option!Don Erikson 19:24, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

The Mammoth Book of Vampires

I'm concerned that you want to remove the £5.99 price from The Mammoth Book of Vampires. If your copy does not have a price I suspect we are better off either cloning the existing publication or adding a note that the publication record used to state a price of "£5.99" and give your reasoning for why it was removed.

The only other change you wanted to make to the publication was to change the note from "OCLC: 26268435" to "Stated 1st printing as per number line. OCLC: 26268435" which is fine. --Marc Kupper|talk 20:52, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

I will say I meant to clone instead of edit but I can't remember 5 minutes ago 5 days ago is right out. I will cancel this an redo.Don Erikson 19:22, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
I went ahead with the reject and did the cloning. The THMMMTHBKG1992 record should match your publication. I also added a note that there is no date. I'm assuming yours is a book club edition? --Marc Kupper|talk 00:53, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Prison Ship - added cover/note/start page no.

Afternoon! This. [39]. I added a cover image, [40], made a note on the artist signature, and start page number after matching my copy to your ver. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 21:46, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

Dr. Who Programme guide

Did you intend to clone [this]? Came through as an edit changing second verified printing to third. Have it on hold. Thanks! ~Bill, --Bluesman 19:13, 4 December 2009 (UTC)

Yes, another goof-up from your favorite goof-ball. Should I redo it or can it be easily be done from your end? Don Erikson 23:04, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
All I can do is accept or reject. Once accepted the other record would have to be re-created. So it's definitely a re-do from your side. I think we have to move the edit/clone 'buttons' further apart, like a foot or two! ;-) ~Bill, --Bluesman 23:29, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Wetware

I've added cover to Wetware--ErnestoVeg 19:22, 5 December 2009 (UTC)

Bloody Sun

Both edits for this title have the same date. Approved both so you can update probably the 9th printing?? ~Bill, --Bluesman 18:31, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

Fixed now. And added Canadian price to the 7th printing.Don Erikson 17:32, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Lords of Atlantis

Apparently, on many Airmont later printings, there is a date on the bottom of the last page of text or on the blank page before the back cover to date them. Might help date [this]. FYI ~Bill, --Bluesman 03:58, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Fixed the 95¢ printing but the $1.50 printing doesn't have a date on the last page.Don Erikson 17:38, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

Tales of the Cthulhu Mythos: Volume 1

I added a cover image for your verified pub Tales of the Cthulhu Mythos: Volume 1. and I fiddled the page number for the introduction matching it to my copy. However there are two additional edits that I am considering, but wanted to get your input first:

  1. I think we should swap out "The Space-Eaters" in favor of the variant title "The Space Eaters". My understanding is that we are supposed to reflect the title page.
  2. The title page of my copy makes no mention of the volume number and following the same rule as above, we should not include the volume number in the title. It certainly includes "Volume 1" on both the cover and the spine, and people may try to merge "Tales of the Cthulhu Mythos" with this title (of which, of course, it is a subset). However, I find strict rules (exactly as it appears on the title page) easier to follow and probably would still lean towards the title without volume number (though probably as a variant of "Tales of the Cthulhu Mythos: Volume 1")

Do you have any opinions on either of these proposed changes? I'm going to point Swfritter here too, since he has the second primary.

Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 05:34, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

  1. Urban legend for TOC/title page discrepancies: there is actually some flexibility: from Help: "Short fiction, essays and poems. For short stories, essays and poems, take the title from the heading on the page where the work begins, rather than from the table of contents, if there is one. This distinction is not too important, and if you know that one form of the title is the usual one (e.g. the contents page has "Night Fall" but the story heading is "Nightfall") then use the one you know is standard. You can also choose to use the table of contents version where the story heading gives a non-standard presentation of the title form--e.g. if the table of contents says "Bell, Book and Candle" and the story header says "Bell, Book & Candle", you can use the former. If both the table of contents and the story title agree, though, the form given should be used, even if it is different from the standard." Which makes "Space-Eaters" appropriate because it appears that way in the table of contents and is commonly listed in that format elsewhere. The discrepancy is documented in the notes as it should be.
  1. My volume 2 is explicitly stated as such on the title page so it would have a unique title. I tend to be a little more flexible in these situations. Too strict an adherence to to rules can sometimes create more confusion and potential editing errors. I always try to document in the notes any case where I have made a minor divergence from the rules. In this case there is justification for going without the volume number if so desired so that would be alright.--swfritter 16:18, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Ravens of the Moon

Approved [this], plugged in the ISBN on the British Integrated Library site and got a price of £5.50. FYI ~Bill, --Bluesman 18:10, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Gutter code dating

Two submissions, Howard SFBC editions changed the dates from August to June because of the gutter codes. The three Howard books weren't offered by the club until August, and it is the month they were offered/published that we use. Accepted both edits as they added the extra codes, but switched the dates back to August. You wouldn't happen to have the third one? No gutter codes recorded yet for that one, though it's very likely to be J24 as well. Thanks! ~Bill,

Must have been like a "2nd printing before publication" deal with higher than expected orders. As to the 3rd book, I still have to large boxes of book club eds. to go through so we;ll see.Don Erikson 18:29, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

BC edition of Banks' The Player of Games

I see you've added a book club edition of this title. Looking at the SFBC listing for 1989 (look at August), I see your entry matches this record with the addition of the ID number. Because Locus1 fails to list this printing, we didn't have the ID number, and this one falls into the pattern for 1989. So it's a 100% sure thing that these two records are for the same printing. Would you mind moving the info from your record to the current one (it's already linked to the SFBC listing, so retaining it would be easier.) Much appreciation for finding this elusive printing. MHHutchins 18:07, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Done.Don Erikson 18:26, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
I've updated the listing with the ID number and deleted the duplicate record. Thanks again. MHHutchins 19:16, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Lord of the Spiders or Blades of Mars

I added the interior art and some notes to this verified pub to match my copy. Thanks, Willem H. 16:28, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Also adde this cover scan. Willem H. 20:37, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

The Black Corridor

I added this cover scan to this verified pub to replace a broken Amazon link. Thanks, Willem H. 20:46, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

Nightfrights

Approved [this], sure hope you didn't pay a 10-digit price!! ;-) Found an image for this one, but very small. ~Bill, --Bluesman 18:56, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

I fixed this up. Added right ISBN & price and removed the image because it's the wrong one. I only paid a dollar for my ex-library copy.Don Erikson 18:28, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
This still has double interior art credits and if I remember correctly the artist was for the other cover? Or did he do both? ~Bill, --Bluesman 20:38, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Technology

Approved [this] Is the one author "Sara h Teasdale" or should there be no space? Also the Clarke story has a '0' instead of an 'O'. Caps key stuck?? ;-) ~Bill, --Bluesman 19:12, 20 December 2009 (UTC)

I fixed the errors. About the cap lock problem, I'm trying a short cut to entering new anthologies (and ones entered without contents). I scan the content page and use OCR to render it as a text file open in Notebook then copy & paste. The problem is that some pages are set in all caps. Is this a problem, using all caps? Does it interfere with merging?(is that the right term?) I have more than a hundred anthologies that need to be entered, this process would save a poor typist like me months of labor.Don Erikson 18:42, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
Good question. I don't think case matters as far as searches go. Past that I really don't know. Might be a good thing to bring up on HELP or RULES & STANDARDS. Better than having to re-do submissions, especially anthologies. Know what you mean about the typing part. Without copy/paste I'd be six months behind where I am now, at least!! When I do one, I try to find the Contento/Locus listing , sometimes OCLC has all the contents listed. ~Bill, --Bluesman 20:35, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Star Healer - added cover image/notation on cover artist

Morning! This. [41]. I added a cover image, [42], and notation on cover artist after matching my copy to your ver. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 12:16, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Helen Hoke's Monsters * 3

Hi Don,

I've approved this. However, I was wondering ... I don't have a copy of MMM, though I have copies of several others of her triple-keyword anthologies. I have the latter listed on my personal database as having commas in the titles, so I was just wondering whether the Monsters one does.

On the topic of her triple-keyword anthologies, any ideas for a series title? (noting that they aren't all in-genre) (... and then there's the alliterating title series :-( ) --clarkmci / j_clark 23:06, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you...

Even though WorldCat & three out of six ABE sellers shows commas, there are no commas on title page, spine or DJ.

As for series title how 'bout: "Triple Tautologic Title" or "Three Thing Theme".Don Erikson 18:34, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Pursuit of the Screamer - added cover image and Illustration credit note/contents

Morning! [43]. I added a cover image, [44], and illustration crediting after matching my copy to your ver. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 13:00, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

The Best of Eric Frank Russell

I added a cover image and notes to this. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 01:57, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Delta edition of A Fine and Private Place

I'm holding a submission adding a new pub to this title, but there appears to be an almost identical pub already in the database. The only difference is the catalog number, which I have Tuck-verified as #2530 (your submission is for #2350). Several Abebooks.com dealers give the catalog number as 2530 as well. Is it possible that your reference has the wrong catalog number and that updating the existing record would be the best procedure? Thanks. MHHutchins 19:35, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

My mistake. I was going by the date (1960 vs 1966) and missed the entry. I did typo the number so cancel this & I'll edit the existing record.Don Erikson 17:54, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
Should the cover credit to Nicole Woods also be moved to the old record? MHHutchins 18:25, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
Looking at the date and catalog number of this, I'd bet that Tuck was wrong for the Beagle reprint. I believe it was not a common practice at that time to release a paperback edition the same year as the hardcover. I'll do more research. It may turn out that 1966 should be the year of publication. Thanks. MHHutchins 18:31, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
According to this OCLC record the Delta book is copyrighted 1960, but doesn't give a date of publication. MHHutchins 18:33, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Explorers of Gor

I added this cover scan to Explorers of Gor. Thanks, Willem H. 15:07, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Alien Horizons

I added this cover scan to Alien Horizons. Thanks, Willem H. 15:32, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Friday - cover image added

Morning! This. [45]. I added a cover image from the 2nd printing previously loaded in ISFDB after matching my copy to your ver. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 16:47, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

But what of Earth?

Added some notes to [this] ~Bill, --Bluesman 19:41, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Keeper

Scanned in a new image and expanded the notes for [this] ~Bill, --Bluesman 18:16, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Identity Seven

Scanned a new image, expanded the notes, added interior art to [this] ~Bill, --Bluesman 22:58, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Iron Rain

Scanned in an image and expanded the notes for [this] ~bill, --Bluesman 23:19, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Ruler of the World [2]

Scanned in an image and expanded the notes for [this] ~Bill, --Bluesman 23:48, 13 January 2010 (UTC)

Law for the Stars

Scanned in an image and expanded the notes for [this] ~Bill, --Bluesman 00:31, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

Changes in page counts for the Perry Rhodans

I'm trying to figure out how so many of these volumes had the wrong page count, and it struck me that there is a difference in how pages are counted in magazines and how they're counted in books. Because these were entered as magazines, the original editors used the magazine method and counted ALL pages, including the covers (which is the standard for magazines). Because Perry Rhodan is a strange hybrid (a magazine published in book form) the confusion may have led to the different interpretations of page count entry. For the moment, you might want to hold up on changing these records. I personally agree that this being a book, the page count should be the last numbered page of the book (that's how OCLC records them.) I used the book method on entering Destinies and Far Frontiers (other magazines published as books.) I'll posit a question on the Rules and Standards page. Thanks. Mhhutchins 18:31, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Another thing, if you'll willing to do a primary verification on these it would help bolster the argument for changing the page count. (I'm assuming you're making the changes based on books in hand.) Thanks. Mhhutchins 18:33, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
Sorry read the header. Bob Hall insisted that the page count be the actual page count plus all other pages including the cover. He cited the magazine rules. So all PR's are actual count if I got a hold on them. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 20:30, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

The Drowned World

I added this cover scan to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 10:10, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Doomsday Morning

I added this cover scan to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 20:29, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

Sorceress of the Witch World

I added this cover scan to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 21:46, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Andre Norton coverscans

Hi Don, fyi, I scanned a number of Andre Norton covers, and in uploading them to the wiki I got a signal that scans for those pubs were already there. They were all uploaded by you in december 2008, apparently without a template, and not connected to the pubs. These are Horn Crown, The Defiant Agents, Daybreak—2250 A.D. and Dark Piper. I corrected the templates for these four and added the Image URL's to the pubs, but there are probably more. Thanks, Willem H. 11:01, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

The Queen of Zamba - added notation/contents

Morning! This. [46]. I added notation on cover art, interior art, and LCC#. I also added a "Foreword" and interior art credit for Jack Gaughan. All after matching my copy to your ver. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 14:04, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Cover art credit for The Demolished Man

I accepted the submission adding Bob Pepper as the cover artist of this verified pub. Are you updating from the pub itself or from the Whole SF Database? Thanks. Mhhutchins 19:57, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

I added the signature from an earlier printing with the same artwork & besides you can see the signature just to the right of the trigger finger by the neck.Don Erikson 21:37, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Earthman's Burden

Added publication date to [this] courtesy Locus. ~Bill, --Bluesman 02:11, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

To Live Forever

Added cover for 162091 Dana Carson 08:19, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Sphynxes Wild

Added cover and notes to Sphynxes Wild. Dana Carson 04:33, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

SF & F Reference: authors??

The three volumes you just submitted all have the author/editor quite different. The first is W. H. Hall (which is where the other reference books show up); the second has H. Walter Whyte and the third has Hal. W. Hall. I didn't see any pseudonyms set up to get these related books under one 'roof'. Are they actually credited this way? ~Bill, --Bluesman 19:57, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

OK, let's see if we can straighten things out. The 2 volumes of the Reference Index have the same ISBN so maybe they should be listed as a single entry, but just in case I added the subtitle to the 2nd volume. The 1992-1995 index is as by Hal W. Hall not as H. W. Hall and certainly NOT by H. Walter Whyte (I blame auto-fill for this).Don Erikson 21:31, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
Two entries, even with the same ISBN is probably best as there are two separate books. If I accept the edits can you find the books to correct the author's multiple names? That's the main reason I held them as they would have shown up under three completely unlinked authors. And it sounds like a pseudonym would need to be established anyway..... Did the auto-fill put the extra 'n' in "Reference"?? ;-) ~Bill, --Bluesman 22:00, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
I can fix the authors. And no, the extra "n" is a product my genneral inneptitude.Don Erikson 22:11, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
Okay, I'll approve them. And that last edit on the Bluejay anthology.... an ISBN 11??? I'm not sure which digit is extra (one too many 4s??). ~Bill, --Bluesman 22:25, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
Jeez! Take a little break from all this and lose what little chops I had. Fixed>Don Erikson 23:52, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Season of Storms

Added cover and notes to Season of Storms. Dana Carson 09:09, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Harpist in the Wind

I added this cover scan to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 13:44, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Voyage to the City of the Dead

Added cover and updated notes for Voyage to the City of the Dead. Dana Carson 04:10, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Dionysus: The Ultimate Experiment

Added some notes and changed the Catalog ID from 0-532-15232-3 to #15232 (explained in the notes) for this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 16:52, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

Also added this cover scan. Willem H. 20:06, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Lost Regiment

Added covers to Rally Cry, Union Forever and Terrible Swift Sword Dana Carson 20:19, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

cover image for Cautionary Tales

I added this image to your verified Cautionary Tales. --MartyD 21:45, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Norton's Plague Ship

Can you re-check the printing number given in this pub? If it actually states second printing, it must be wrong as there are many printings by Ace going back into the sixties. Thanks. Mhhutchins 22:34, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Ace was less than perfect when it came to printing numbers. I was originally going to add to the note that this was at least the 5th printing but .. umm... I forgot. I' will fix it.Don Erikson 23:47, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

The Golden Horn by Poul Anderson

According to Locus #232 (April 1980), this edition was published in March 1980. If that's not recorded in the book itself, you use use the Locus listing as a source for the month of publication. Thanks. Mhhutchins 00:50, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Level 7

I added this cover scan to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 20:09, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

Palimpsests

Added the introduction and notes to this verified pub. Thanks, Willem H. 21:52, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Witch World

Added an image and date [OCLC] to [this] ~Bill, --Bluesman 16:55, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

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