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Hello, ErnestoVeg/Archive/2009-10-15, and welcome to the ISFDB Wiki! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will insert your name and the date. If you need help, check out the community portal, or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome!Kraang 22:20, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Images and G.B. prices

Hi Ernesto. I've made a couple of changes to the G.B. prices. The old shillings and pence can be entered as "5/6" without any currency indication in front but when they switched to decimal you should use the "£" sign, for example £18.95. With regards to the image in Orrore su Manhattan[1] I've moved the link to notes. If we don't have permission to link to a site than some sites consider this bandwidth theft, Amazon and Fantastic Fiction are one we have permission to link to. Again welcome and thanks for editing.Kraang 22:37, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

I've seen the message to late...
--ErnestoVeg 07:50, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Cover art images

I have approved the addition of detailed information to La spirali del tempo, but shouldn't it be Le spirali del tempo instead? Also, I have removed the note which said "Item in my collection. I'm the owner of the site" since you have already verified this publication. Finally, since you are the owner of the Fantascienza Web site (nice site, by the way!), would you be willing to give the ISFDB a general permission to link to your images? Thanks! Ahasuerus 23:07, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes of course. It is "Le spirali del tempo".
Thanks, fixed! Ahasuerus 19:04, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
I think that there no problem for a general permission to link images, but I'll confirm after to talk with Silvio Sosio. It's is possible that confimation arrive directly from him.
--ErnestoVeg 07:42, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
I asked Silvio Sosio, my partner. He agrees. You have the permission to link Italian cover scan freely. Credit to fantascienza.com
It's easy to find the URL. In home page there is a search box. Select 'titolo' (title) and type the title (in Italian or English) and follows the links
The format is: www.fantascienza.com/catalogo/cov/DD/DDddd.jpg, where DD are the first two characters of the five characters code DDddd in square bracket.
--ErnestoVeg 16:44, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, I'll add this permission to our Help pages! Ahasuerus 19:04, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

The Tide Went Out

It looks like you tried to Clone the Ballantine edition of The Tide Went Out in order to create a record for the first Hodder & Stoughton edition of this book. Unfortunately, something went wrong and the ISBN field was set to "#" while the Price field was set to "$0.3512/6". I have rejected your submission and created a new Publication record based on OCLC and your data. Could you please take a look at the result when you have a moment and let me know if it looks OK? Thanks! Ahasuerus 01:43, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

As the ISBN code was used after the mid '70 (sometime in British publication was used SBN, without the first 0 in the early '70), as I disagree a warning for a non error, I've thought that if I write only #, the warning would be avoided. Sorry.
--ErnestoVeg 07:49, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
No problem! The "warning" that you mentioned is a new feature of our application and we will adjust it soon. As you said, there is no reason to complain that a book has no ISBN when the book was published before ISBNs were invented :-) Ahasuerus 21:39, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Wiki threading

The convention is to indent replies one level. This is done by starting each paragraph whith a leading colon (:). To indent multiple levles, use one colon for each level. I have adjusted the short threads above. For more on wiki editing, please see Help:Editing and the various pages in Category:Wiki Help. I hope this is useful to you. -DES Talk 12:57, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

O.K. Thanks
--ErnestoVeg 14:04, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Catalog #/ISBNs

When entering the catalog number for pre-ISBN publications, please add a number sign ("#") before the number. For example, in your submission to update Silverberg's Downward to the Earth, the catalog number should be entered as #T4497. Thanks. MHHutchins 13:12, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes, I know. Excuse the mistake. Sorry!

--ErnestoVeg 13:27, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Robert Silverberg's Those Who Watch

I approved your submission to change the date on this pub, but then a second submission wanted to change it again (to 1984). The Silverberg website that you mention in your notes gives this a 1979 date. Is there any internal evidence, or outside sources, to confirm the publication as 1984? Thanks. MHHutchins 13:34, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

I've checked again the data. I don't owe the books. Signet introduce AE price code (a strange price code, ranging from 2.25 to 3.95 and up) in 1982.
This code was used on cover at least until 1989 (see: zelazny.corrupt.net/covers/jack-signet10-b.jpg). It is possible, but I've not example, that in the :back cover was reported the ISBN 0-451-15976-4 usually indicated in biblio on net)
In majipor site there are two images: for the first the year reported is 1979 but would be as the code is AE2022 i.e. ISBN 0-451-12022-1 1982.
With this ISBN you register two date: 1981 and 1983. In this case the first entry would be 1982.
The second image year reported is 1981 but would be as the code is AE5019 i.e. ISBN 0-451-15019-8 1987, as reported in Brown&Contento (but is possible
that an 1984 edition exist as stated by some sellers) --ErnestoVeg 09:46, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Out of Chaos

I have approved your addition of Out of Chaos but you may want to edit the note as I don't understand who it is directed to. The goal/assumption with ISFDB publication records is that they record what's stated in the publication. If we record data from another source then we would cite that source in the notes.

I believe what you are trying to say is the the publication states "1965" but Tuck, Tuck Vol. 3, and Currey all report 1964 for R888. Marc Kupper (talk) 22:13, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

I that it? I thought that you were saying that the physical book has catalog number R888 with a date of 1965, but Tuck reports that R688 has a date of 1964, and you suspect an entry error in Tuck. -DES Talk 22:35, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
Yes, you are rigth. My note, that now was reedited, was for supervisor. The sorry was because I've submitted the data using the indications of the Tuck Vol. 2. After the submission I've found a scan cover with R888. I've then made other controls. Usually the Tuck is a very better source (I've found only few errors, 10-20 at this moment). --ErnestoVeg 17:10, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

The Jupiter Legacy, Sphere, 1972

I've found a cover image of this edition in Harry Harrison Site. --ErnestoVeg 14:13, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

The Specials

I've put this submission on hold because it would make The Specials a variant of Frederik Pohl's collection This Is My Best (parent #25667). I'm assuming this was not your intention. You wanted to make it a variant of Psychedelic-40 (parent#20589)? If this is the case just submit a new variant link and I'll reject the first one. Thanks.Kraang 15:30, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

OK. I submit the right parent number. Probably I've seen the wrong number. --ErnestoVeg 17:42, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Thanks. Done.Kraang 01:10, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Nuisance Value by E. F. Russell

I've found a mistake in title page of "Nuisance Value". But I've no idea how to correct it.

Title: Nuisance Value Author: Eric Frank Russell Year: 1957 Type: SHORTFICTION User Rating: This title has fewer than 5 votes. VOTE Popular Tags: Merril03 (1) Add Tags

Serials: 

   * Nuisance Value (Part 1 of 2) (1938)
   * Nuisance Value (Part 2 of 2) (1939)

The Serial is not by Russell, is by by Wellman --ErnestoVeg 18:50, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

You mean that this serial by Manly Wade Wellman is incorrectly shown as a publication of this novel by Eric Frank Russell? You are correct. I believe that this is a known bug, with serials matching novels based only on the title, not title plus author. I'm not sure what fix, if any, is available. -DES Talk 19:09, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
Now that review linking has gone live, revamping serial linking is at the top of Al's list of priorities. Hopefully, he will get to it soon :) Ahasuerus 00:25, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Brian Aldiss / Brian W. Aldiss

I've submitted a new title: The Male Response by Brian W. Aldiss. The name on Book is Brian Aldiss and now I see that the book is not under Brian W. Aldiss, but in a separate entry. There is also an article in this situation.--ErnestoVeg 04:31, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

The Brave Little Toaster

I have approved your submission, but since you said "This is a novelette in book form" I converted it to a CHAPTERBOOK. The result is here. Help:Screen:EditPub says:

"CHAPTERBOOK. This is used for anything smaller or flimsier than a standard paperback. These are often, but not always, saddle-stapled; publications from conventions are frequently in this format. This format is also used for separate publications of a single work of short fiction, even if bound as a standard paperback or hardcover. It is also used for an ebook edition of a single work of short fiction."

I hope this is helpful. -DES Talk 04:25, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

thanks, it is useful--ErnestoVeg 14:49, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
Note that I for one get REALLY annoyed at the second use: "This format is also used for separate publications of a single work of short fiction, even if bound as a standard paperback or hardcover" as it often makes "real books" disappear from the top part of an author page into the shortfiction section. It's being overused, in my opinion, and if you agree that such a display problem or even the categorization mean that we should change something about this standard, say so. Standards are still quite open to change here at the moment. I'm not too worried about the ebook situation as I don't use them, but having books suddenly disappear from the area I look for them in when somebody else decides it's not quite long enough for a novel has been a major frustration. Either they need to move to the upper part display-wise or they should be left alone when the publisher declares them to be Novels, and they're BOUND as such. BLongley 21:48, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Note that your book no longer appears under the series entry that places the title in the top half. BLongley 21:48, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Actually, it never did, it was a separate entry whose title record never had the series data listed. i have corrected this, merging it with the existing title record so that all publications appear together, and all are included in the series listing.
OK, I didn't see it before you adjusted it: I presume it appeared in the top half under Novels though, if not in the Series section? BLongley 23:06, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Yesterday, before I edited anything, there was a series entry for "Brave Little Toaster" which included another publication, under a separate title, of this work, but not the publication that started this thread, because that had no series listed in its title record. The series was perfectly visible to me. I'm not sure what the state of things was back on 13 June when I first started this thread.
As to "chapterbooks" (which really should be "Chapbooks", as "chapterbook" properly means a short hc-bound work written for children of about 2-5), There probably should be a separate display section for them, just as there is for collections and omnibuses. But I no more want to see a work of short fiction vanish into the novels section than you what the reverse. DES Talk 22:22, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Eh? I don't want to see it disappear from the short fiction section, it should be there as well. I don't want Novels to disappear when they are included in Omnibuses either, for instance. I think you misunderstood my intentions. A separate display section would help though. BLongley 23:06, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
I never thought you wanted to see such entries disappear from shortfiction, but in the current state of the software, if these are classed as novels, either they will so disappear, or else we will have different publications of the same work under different title record, with quite possibly no indication that they are in fact identical. This could easily fool a user (such as myself) into thinking that the separately published version was a significant expansion of the version in a collection or anthology, when it was not. -DES Talk 15:41, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
This is why page-count (and for short books, starting page number of the contents even if there is only one piece of fiction in it) is important. It's always dangerous to assume story lengths from page-numbers if you're comparing with a magazine though. BLongley 23:26, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
And if a work is not a novel, then IMO publishing it under separate covers does not make it one. If a work is a work of short fiction when it is published in a magazine and multiple anthologies (as this one was) and when it wins an award for short fiction (as this one did) it is still short fiction when published separately, IMO. We actually have a simple, objective standard for when something is a novel: 40,000 words or more. This is one of the clearest standards in the project, and it is supported by an outside source as well. I see no benefit to changing it or complicating it. -DES Talk 22:22, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
The benefit to me is that I buy books. When they're good, I like to get every book by the same author. Only when they've very good do I go start searching for all their shortfiction that hasn't been published in a collection yet, and will search for anthologies. Magazines are probably my last resort, reserved for the best of the best where I must have every word. Hiding books from me is a sin. Under current standards, books like this and this, published for World BOOK Day will get hidden from me, and I'm glad I bought them before the ISFDB hides them from me. If they're not considered Novels here, fine: I don't care about the word-count, just display them as BOOKS with a page-count instead and I can decide if they're long enough by a notable-enough author for me. That may be a display problem or a categorisation problem, but it IS a problem for me. BLongley 23:06, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
I see your point. I think the only really acceptable answer is to change the display logic so that chap(ter)books are displayed in a separate section, just as collections and omnibuses are. This would avoid the same work having to appear under different title records. It would avoid misleading users about the content, yet it would allow someone who looks at novels + collections + omnibuses + chap(ter)books to have a list of all "books" of SF by the author (to the extent that the db is complete, of course). Am I correct that this would solve the problem you mention? -DES Talk 15:41, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
It would solve my main problem with it, yes. Changing the standard for Ace doubles (which I have a nasty feeling hasn't been documented in help yet) resurrected a lot of books with two Novellas in from obscurity back to visibility under Omnibuses. (Although Collections would have done too.) I'm not sure if it satisfies those interested in the binding - e.g. the only STATED chapbook I own doesn't match your definition anyway, not being a "hc-bound work written for children of about 2-5", although there is at least a hardcover version of it. But that's a separate issue, already under discussion again. BLongley 23:26, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
At one point we had support for a separate "CHAP(TER)BOOK" Title type, but it was dropped for the reasons that David outlined above. Bill's problem is that our main bibliography pages (Author Summary etc) are only interested in Titles and ignore Publication level data while what Bill is interested in is which Shortfiction Titles appear in particular Publication types, specifically Chapterbook pubs. This is a perfectly understandable since many encyclopedias provide this information.
Unfortunately (IIRC) when Al tried to add (other) Publication level logic to Authors' biblio pages, it killed our performance, so I assume that doing what Bill wants would not be viable with the current database design. One thing that we could do would be to add an "Appeared in a <insert pub type> Publication" field to the Title record. This field would be updated every time a related Publication record was added/updated/deleted and would let us create a new "Chap(ter)books" section on the Summary page. A bit convoluted, but it will address the need if Al is willing to code it that way. Ahasuerus 04:55, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Hale SF

Some good finds there - I can see myself researching some of those authors a bit more. Did you just find this page or were they from some other source? Or are you actually Jackie Bates, and if so can we have the cover images here? BLongley 21:23, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Farewell, Earth's Bliss

Entered data in notes in order to do a primary verification. Please check that it did nothing to your Tuck's verification. Thanks, Harry. --Dragoondelight 14:21, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Charles Eric Maine

Reginald 3 reports that Alph is a sequel of World Without Men not a variant title. --ErnestoVeg 07:32, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up! According to this bibliography, it was a "revised version". I wonder if it was so extensively revised that Reginald thought it was a sequel? Let me check a few more sources... Ahasuerus 17:59, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch

Where did you get the month of publication for The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch from? It's not stated in the book, so the secondary source should be noted. Same question for A Plague of Pythons. BLongley 18:08, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Notes also needed for THTRMNLBCH1974, THWNDFRMNW1974, THFRDMNSNL1977, THDRGHTDXN1974 and THDRWNDWRL1974. BLongley 12:46, 2 May 2009 (UTC)

Also, it's polite to notify Verifiers of changes to their publications - they may not agree that that's what they verified any more. BLongley 18:08, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Sorry. The source is: http://www.penguinsciencefiction.org/15 that reports the month of publication. If you agree I add the note...
I'll never change data to verified books without notice... Sorry again. --ErnestoVeg 07:57, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
Yes, please add the notes about the source - I've already noted what's stated in the pub. BLongley 18:34, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
You can usually make minor changes to Verified pubs and leave a note about what you did, rather than leave a note and wait for permission, but check the Verifier's page to see if they state more clearly what they personally like to be told about. BLongley 18:34, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

Month-dating pubs

I see you have several submissions adding a month of publication for some verified pubs. It's likely that the months aren't stated in these pubs, or the verifier, Blongley, would have entered them. If you have a secondary source for the month of publication you should enter that source in the notes so that someone checking their pubs against the database will know that the month of publication isn't stated. I'll turn those submissions over to Blongley to handle. Thanks. MHHutchins 18:18, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

Possess and Conquer

After my submission I've found an image scan on the web. The Cover title is Possess & Conquer --ErnestoVeg 17:02, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Micronaut World

Just an FYI that I double checked Clute/Nicholls and Reginald and Micronaut World is a retitling of The Microcolony rather than of The Micronauts. Series updated and variant titles set up, thanks for the heads up! :) Ahasuerus 12:07, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Sorry. I've copied and pasted the wrong title. I agree, of course--ErnestoVeg 12:23, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Anthony Grant

I moved the Bio:Anthony Grant page you created to Author:Anthony Grant because in my view this sort of not fits better under the heading of "Bibliographic comments" than it does of "biographical article" (as per the bio page guidelines). If you disagree, we can discuss the matter, and the move can be undone. -DES Talk 16:06, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

I agree of course...--ErnestoVeg 16:53, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

You might also be interested in the work-in-progress Bibliographic comments. -DES Talk 16:06, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Marooned in Real Time by Vernor Vinge (serial)

As is possible to see on the cover of Analog (see also Contento 2) the title would be Marooned in Real Time not Marooned in Realtime --ErnestoVeg 13:56, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Italian translations

It is ISFDB policy to record all translations of a work under the original English title. (If it was not originally published in English then the English record would become a variant of the original title.) Short fiction becomes more difficult to record in the non-English versions because it must be merged with the original English title, thus losing its identity. So on the short pieces that were included in the novels that you updated I had to find the English titles. That was made easy using your Italian SF website. (I'm assuming that you are Ernesto Vegetti who maintains the Catalogo Sf, Fantasy e Horror.) I will go back and give the original Italian titles in the notes fields of the publications. Also, can I assume that we have permission to link to the images that you placed on the record? These link directly to your website's server, using your bandwidth. Thanks. MHHutchins 16:45, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Well. I'll see your corrections and the next time I'll try to made the right thing. I'm Ernesto Vegetti. We have (isfdb) the permission to link directly the Italian covers (see above: Cover art images). The next time, if you agree, I'll remember the permission.--ErnestoVeg 17:08, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
Sorry I forgot that the permission to link to covers had already been granted. There's no need to restate it and any new submissions. Thank you. MHHutchins 17:32, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

"Serie"

A minor point of English usage, which I mention since I know that English is not your native language. (You are far better at it that I am at any non-English language).

"Serie" is not an English word. "Series" is used as the singular, as in "That book is part of the Foundation series" or "This is the first book in a new series". "Series" can also be used as the plural as in "We need to figure out which of the three series that book belongs to." Or "Serieses" can be used, but this looks awkward to most English-speakers and is disfavored. A Latinate plural, "seria", is sometimes used in academic contexts, but is likely to be regarded as pretentious and silly in other contexts, and will confuse many readers. I would avoid it.

Also "verificated" should be "verified", in my view.

These are both quite minor points, but you had, i think, asked for pointers on English usage. -DES Talk 15:44, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

:-) Thanks!--ErnestoVeg 18:45, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

The Tree of Time / Beyond the Barrier

According with Tuck, are the same novel. --ErnestoVeg 18:45, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

We are in the process of changing how serials are connected to book titles. For a long time the system automatically matched by title only (which leads to errors as you can see here, the Richard S. Shaver serial from the 50s is linked to the Damon Knight novel of the 60s). These are now being removed so that they are manually linked. I've accepted your submission to link the serial The Tree of Time to the novel Beyond the Barrier. Thanks.
It's a good thing!. I've seen that not the title of the novel, but the title of the magazine is shown. Thanks you for fast acceptance.--ErnestoVeg 18:55, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Posting to editors' talk page

When posting a comment for an editor, it should be done on his talk page. I moved the comment about Beyond the Barrier from User:Kraang to User talk:Kraang. An easy mistake because the link from the verification tables lead to the user page, not the user talk page. There is a link on the user page named "Discuss this page" which leads to the user talk page. I hope this helps. The wiki can be a treacherous path leading to many unforeseen places. :-) MHHutchins 19:43, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

The page Help:Wiki Conventions may be helpful in such matters. -DES Talk 19:48, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Golem 100

Golem 100 have not as vt The Computer Connection.

Bruce Sterling's Cronache Del Basso Futuro

I'm sorry that I will not be able to accept the submission updating this pub. You overwrote content entries, which would change the title records of every appearance of the story in the database. It isn't necessary to enter the stories in the order in which they appear in the collection. If you give the starting page for each story, the system will automatically sort them numerically by page. This help page will show you how to change contents in a collection. If you're only adding pages there is no conflict with other publication records. If you change the title, author, date, type, or length fields you will be changing every record in the database. As a rule, you should never change content entries until you're completely aware of how it may effect the content's database record. I'm going to reject the submission, but save the changes you made to the header fields and re-edit the record. You can then go back and add the page numbers. Thanks. MHHutchins 16:31, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

I've re-entered the information from your original submission. Instead of using bold type for story titles in the Notes field, I used quotation marks (novels are italicized). Also I noticed a problem with the way the system displays the Italian lire. It's been programmed to make the letter "L" into the symbol for the British pound. I'll ask at the Help page if this can be changed. Thanks. MHHutchins 16:39, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
You will need to use the "Remove Titles from This Pub" function under the Tools menu to remove "Dori Bangs" and "Storming the Cosmos". Use the "Edit This Pub" function to enter the other missing pieces, then go down to "Add Title" function below the content records. MHHutchins 16:52, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
I removed to titles from the publication. After the approval, I complete the job--ErnestoVeg 18:23, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
In Italy we used £ to indicate our old currency. But in international behaviour seems strange to have a book with the price of £ 5,000--ErnestoVeg 18:30, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
Is it possible to use this symbol: ₤ (as "₤5,000" or "5,000₤"), or maybe "5,000 Lit." The problem is the "L" at the beginning of the price. Thanks. MHHutchins 18:43, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Entering serials

When entering a work published in several parts (a serial), the title is entered as "Title (Part # of #)". So the Simak serial in this would be "Time and Again (Part 1 of 9)" (if it were published in nine parts.)
Now's where the problems begin. It's going to be difficult to enter publications that are typed as NOVEL but include work by another writer that is not related to the novel. We could enter these as MAGAZINE type because they appear to be periodically published and numbered chronologically. If we chose to go this way and give the editor credit (is it Giorgio Monicelli?), we should begin now before too many of them get entered. The publication would be titled Urania or I Romanzi di Urania, and we could build a Wiki magazine page for the series which links to each issue as we enter them. Let me know how you feel about doing it this way. The one drawback with this is that every novel would have to be typed as SERIAL and labeled as a "(Complete Novel)". See this periodical for an example of how it would look if we choose this method. MHHutchins 21:25, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

I agree; for I Romanzi di Urania and Urania I'll enter MAGAZINE type and add (complete novel) when appropriate. For SERIAL I'll add (Part 1 of 12). It exists another sister Magazine for the first year of publicazion titled Urania. Title changed in Urania in 1957. For the next 3 days I'm not at home.--ErnestoVeg 21:38, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, but once these are entered as NOVEL type under an title record for the novel, they can't be change to magazines very easily. It takes several submissions which might be quicker if I do it. Once I've corrected these first five issues, I'll let you know so that you can compare them with future entries. For now, I need to reject these last set of submissions. We need to add an editor and title for the magazine. Is Giorgio Monicelli the editor and is "I Romanzi di Urania" the title you wish for the magazine? MHHutchins 21:55, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
No problem. The Editor was, at the beginning, Giorgio Monicelli. For the first 152 numbers the title was I Romanzi di Urania, then changed in Urania
  • Giorgio Monicelli: 1-267
  • Not credited: 266-280
  • Carlo Fruttero: 281-335
  • Carlo Fruttero & Franco Lucentini: 336-1009
  • Gianni Montanari: 1010-1120
  • Giuseppe Lippi: 1121-current

--ErnestoVeg 22:13, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

I Romanzi di Urania #6

Your entry of I Romanzi di Urania #6 looks great. One thing: when creating an entry for complete novels it must be in the format "TITLE (Complete Novel)" in order for the system to automatically link it to the parent record. Note that both the "C" and "N" must be capitalized. Everything else looks very good. It won't be long before all 1500+ issues are recorded! Thanks. MHHutchins 15:05, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm mistaken. There's been some changes in the software and the system doesn't automatically link "Complete Novels" to the parent records. I'll do that manually. MHHutchins 15:19, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
I see the problem. You're entering the "Complete Novels" as the NOVEL type. They should be entered as SERIAL. I know it doesn't make much sense, and I'm unable to fully explain the logic, but the system will link these to the parent title for serials. At least, I hope! Try a few and see if it works. We'll eventually figure this all out! Thanks. MHHutchins 15:25, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
Strange things happen! I've thought the same thing, but my message was lost. It is possible that I've not saved the message. I wrote that I'll enter I Romanzi di Urania until #12 to complete Time and Again SERIAL; I hope that we'll find an easy way to enter the data. I had exported my data to various other database. I must only to know the format.--ErnestoVeg 15:39, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
I will make an inquiry on the community page. What format is your database, and what formats can you export to? MHHutchins 16:15, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
Usually I send data in txt format with every field separated by a semicolon (;). But I think that I must send the data with the type of the record and some key to connect the single record together.--ErnestoVeg 16:20, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
We can accept XML - see here for details. It's a bit daunting, but it works. The downside is that the API to check whether the publication already exists is very rudimentary: it only works with an ISBN and returns all records for that. Not much help with Magazines. :-( BLongley 19:35, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
Still, if you have structured data that you know isn't here yet, it's possible to create submissions for each publication programmatically. This would be very useful for items with lots of contents that you don't want to retype, like anthologies, collections and magazines. They still need to be approved one by one though, so don't go mad! BLongley 19:35, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. I'll study and I'll try. But is possible that the best way is to enter 20 item per day. In about three months I made the job.--ErnestoVeg 07:24, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

I Romanzi di Urania #12

A couple of problem with this issue. The cover is for Issue #9, and the author of the novel Weapon Shops... should be A. E. van Vogt. MHHutchins 16:25, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Sorry. I've made a mistake with publisher. I've entered Mondadori (Italy) with two spaces instead of one. I've corrected the mistake.--ErnestoVeg 17:25, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

I Romanzi di Urania #87

Could you please double check whether "The Mightiest Machine (Complete Novel)" in I Romanzi di Urania #87 is attributed to Alan E. Nourse or John W. Campbell, Jr? Thanks! Ahasuerus 02:30, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Campbell. I've corrected the mistake--ErnestoVeg 06:13, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

I Romanzi di Urania #213

I have changed the interior art record by Carlo Jacono in I Romanzi di Urania #213 from "A Scent of New-Mown Hay (Complete Novel)" to "Starhaven (Complete Novel)" to match the serial record. Ahasuerus 02:37, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Sorry!--ErnestoVeg 06:14, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

I Romanzi di Urania #214

Changed the author of "Green Destiny (Complete Novel)" from Ivar Jorgenson to Kenneth Bulmer to match the cover. Ahasuerus 02:46, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Sorry!--ErnestoVeg 06:14, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

I Romanzi di Urania #219

Changed the author of "Stern der Implosionen (Complete Novel)" from Henry Ward to J. E. Wells to match the cover. Ahasuerus 03:10, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Sorry! And many thanks.--ErnestoVeg 06:15, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
No worries, typos happen! :) Ahasuerus 19:24, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Changes in title of magazine

I accepted the submissions changing the titles of issues #210 - #215 from I Romanzi di Urania to Urania. Changing the titles in the pub record doesn't change the editor record or cover art records, so I've gone back and changed those also. Keep this in mind when correcting pub titles. Thanks. MHHutchins 18:52, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

I've understood, I'll check my NOVEL to MAGAZINE transformation. Thanks.--ErnestoVeg 18:55, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
How is it possible to modify? I have not seen the right menu.--ErnestoVeg 19:06, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Author updates

When adding a legal name to an author's data use this format: LASTNAME, FIRSTNAME. Thanks. MHHutchins 14:44, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Sorry. I'll take note--ErnestoVeg 15:08, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Editing the title record while updating a publication record

When updating novels, you see a CONTENT record below the header fields. This record is the novel's title record, and you should be very careful about editing it. You should only change fields that you are positive are the same in every publication of this title. For example, if you change the author, you must be sure that EVERY edition of this book has the same author. There were a couple of your updates on the Fleuve Noir publications where the author used a pseudonym (Alphonse Brutsche = Jean-Pierre Andrevon) and the changing the title record changed the authorship of all editions to the one author. This novel was published under both names, and a variant had to be created. You will learn when it is OK to change the title record during a publication update. Until then, if there is a pseudonym or title-change involved, it's best to change the title record separately. Thanks for contributing. MHHutchins 15:26, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Well. I've read many page of help, but I've no found warnings about this argument. But is possible that is my fault. The things to know are a large amount. I've changed the title according with the French use. It is also possible that some entries where duplicated. It is very easy mistype a publisher. I've also used the complete name of René Brantonne, but in many books is reported as Brantonne. Thanks for the patience.--ErnestoVeg 15:57, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
It's actually the third link in your welcome message (http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:EditPub#General_contents) but we should probably make it clearer how important it is. BLongley 19:20, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
Yes I've read sometime agoo this link. But it very difficult to truly understand before made the job. When I correct a title I know that all title will be corrected. Usually my interventions are on Italian, German, French title and don't affect the English entries. When I have some doubt i check other similar entries (usually verified). I've found inconsistencies in many entries (I use ISFDB primarily to check my data) but is impossible for me to correct them. My intervention on French or German are related with links with Italians translation. Fleuve Noir is strictly connected with the early Urania and I've corrected and I will complete the revision. Freely to reject, possibly with explications, my submission if they are incorrect.--ErnestoVeg 06:08, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
I very much understand that the help pages might not be specific about how changes in data effects the database. It's only when you become familiar with how the database is designed that you see how the connections effect the data. The changes you made in the Fleuve Noir publication records are very much appreciated, as they were probably entered by non-French-speaking editors. When the changes are only capitalization and/or the use of accent marks there should be no problem. In fact, changing any of the fields in the header should be no problem also. Just be aware of how changes in the title record may effect other publications that are tied to the same title record. One day I'm going to design a graphical display explaining the database connections, but only when I'm able to figure them out myself! Thanks. MHHutchins 16:13, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
I still don't understand them all myself! Yes, diagrams would be good and I've done a couple, but mostly my explanations have been either very specific to a particular problem or are very technical. If you understand databases, then my thoughts here as I was learning may help. If not, don't worry - nobody else has said they're useful either. :-( BLongley 19:20, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
Very interesting :-)--ErnestoVeg 06:19, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Urania #175

"Issac Asimov" has been changed to "Isaac Asimov" in Urania #175. Ahasuerus 21:52, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Sorry for type mismatch.--ErnestoVeg 05:15, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Raymond F. Jones' Les imaginox or Les imaginos

According to your note this book is titled Les imaginos on the inside. ISFDB standard is to use the title page and that's also how Tuck lists it. He also states it to be the collection The Toymaker. I've merged the titles, but also think I should change the French publication to a collection also. What do you think? MHHutchins 15:28, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

I agree, of course. I've not seen that in my source there is also a TOC. When I've finished to verify the new entries I add the infos.--ErnestoVeg 15:35, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
Remember, the ISFDB is unable to support translated titles for short fiction, so they must be entered in English, so that we can merge them with the original titles. Thanks. MHHutchins 15:58, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
OK. I remember :-)--ErnestoVeg 16:01, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Covers for Urania

The last several submissions for issues of Urania had malformed links to the covers. Can you please check the URLs? Thanks. MHHutchins 15:29, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Excuse me. I'm checking all my submission. Sorry for the extra job.--ErnestoVeg 15:38, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Urania #111

Urania 111 mistakenly contains a second novel "L'Homme, cette maladie" by Karol Bor. Isn't that the same novel in Urania 121 but written by Claude Yelnik? MHHutchins 15:55, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes I know. This item was send by mistake. To avoid problems I have added the right entries and after your confirm I'll delete wrong entries.--ErnestoVeg 16:00, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

I Romanzi di Urania #33

I had to reject the most recent submission to update Urania #33. There was a conflict with another submission that may have changed the publication after you submitted. It may have happened because I changed "Norwell" to "Norvell" around the same time. I also removed the reference to the Boulle story because it appeared in another issue. Please look at the pub and see if all the changes you intended went through. Thanks. MHHutchins 19:06, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

OK. The entry is also OK. Thanks!--ErnestoVeg 19:12, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Magazine Editor Series

I have begun placing the editor records for Giorgio Monicelli into a magazine editor series. This is done by merging all of the editor records for one year and changing the title of the record to "MAGAZINE TITLE - YEAR". Each record will then show all issues for that year. This makes the editor's summary page more manageable. Years 1952 and 1953 are complete. MHHutchins 19:18, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

A good thing. Tomorrow (here is night) I complete the 1954. Please note that in the beginning fifties many authors were published with strange pseudonym.--ErnestoVeg 19:35, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
George Shelton is a pseudo of August Derleth. Monicelli edited (as Tom Arno) a page on a weekly magazine (Visto) and have published many stories with the real name of the author. Then published also in I Romanzi di Urania the same stories with other title and with other author name. As the original title is non in the source, was a difficult task to discover these facts. In I Romanzi di Urania #1990 (1992) there is an index that reports fake original titles. In 2000 Luigi Cozzi said that Shelton, Hale, Sherman were all ps of Monicelli. In 2001 we (De Micheli, Masera, Staffilano, Tarditi, Valla, Vegetti) discover the complete file of the magazine Visto and we define the situation. It was been a big investigation. We also checked original magazine.--ErnestoVeg 19:55, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
Every year we learn that what was "facts" in the past wasn't really the truth. In the world of SF, even more than ever. All we can do is to record the "facts" as we know them today. Tomorrow they may change. It's the detective work that makes this so much fun, don't you think? Cheers. MHHutchins 22:02, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
I agree, of course. Now is relatively easy to discover through the web, but the primary sources to check the data were necessary.--ErnestoVeg 04:14, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Edits that do nothing

You have several edits that won't change anything: Expédition cosmique, Les Sphères de Rapa-nui, Nous les Martiens, Univers parallèles, La Caverne du futur, Pyramidopolis. What are you trying to change? BLongley 12:27, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

When I entered the first times using NeWNovel, it was not possible to enter other data. Now it is possible and I have entered the data twice. But when I tried to eliminate duplication, only one item appears.--ErnestoVeg 12:35, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
Ah, I see - there are two NOVEL entries in each publication. "Remove Titles from this Publication" will hide one of them when you choose the contents to remove, but you can still remove the other. Do check afterwards though, as sometimes both will go and one will have to be put back. BLongley 12:42, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Second part of Frank M. Robinson's story...

..."The Girls from Earth" is missing from Urania 41 MHHutchins 14:37, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks--ErnestoVeg 14:41, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Duplicate content for Urania

Part 9 of Asimov's story has been duplicated in Urania 64. (It was also in Urania 63.) MHHutchins 16:02, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

I remove from #64. Thanks--ErnestoVeg 16:04, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Urania #68 date

Should not the date of this issue be 1955-01-20? MHHutchins 16:07, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, I just saw your edit. Thanks. MHHutchins 16:09, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
No problem. Sometime I made mistake and I verify sometime I dont' see. Is better to have false attention then have not attention.--ErnestoVeg 16:11, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Heinlein's "The Year of the Jackpot"

Parts 2 & 3 are missing from Urania #73 & #74. MHHutchins 16:29, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Strange things Happens! :-)--ErnestoVeg 16:31, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
I've sent the data after two empty rows.--ErnestoVeg 16:45, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Curt Caesar = Kurt Caesar

I was looking over another Urania website and noticed that they spell the cover artist name as "Kurt Caesar". Is the printed credit in the issues "Curt" or "Kurt"? Thanks. MHHutchins 18:33, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

What other Urania website? Well. Only from Urania #248 the artist is explicity credited (as you can see in my index, where the name is reported in square brackett). Kurt Kaiser was a German artist, long living in Italy that signed his covers as ć. ćaesar, thus Curt Caesar and in the ancient time there was not discussion about how write the name. No problem to eventually to change to Kurt, but the choice of the artist was different. And if the ć in Curt is intended as k, then also the ć in Caesar is a K: thus Kurt Kaesar. As ć usually in slave languages or in ladin is pronounced ch as in cheese the situation is quite strange. Curt Caesar never signed as Kurt Caesar. (in modern pronunciation of the latin Caesar is pronounced as "Chesar", in the ancient pronunciation "Kaesar"). In Wikipedia there a lot of strange information but correct them is as to fight against windmills. And the people are not able to distinguish from the right and the wrong. For me Curt Caesar remains Curt Caesar.--ErnestoVeg 06:09, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
I suppose that the site is MondoUrania (other (ancient) sites report usually Curt Caesar); I wrote to the webmaster. If there will be an answer, I report it.--ErnestoVeg 06:43, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
Many other sources report Kurt Caesar. Is a matter of fact that he changed his name in Corrado Caesar. But this new is not easily to find in the web.--ErnestoVeg 08:46, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the clarification. As long as he signed the work with "ć" that's close enough to "c" for me. MHHutchins 19:15, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
Webmaster of MondoUrania answers me. He probably modify Kurt in Curt. I wrote also to have permission to link their covers (that are better then those in Catalogo); he promised an answer, later.--ErnestoVeg 10:42, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
Did you let him know that this is a deep-link? The image is pulled directly from their site, using their bandwidth. I don't want any confusion, for once the links have been changed, it will take just as long to change them back! Thanks.

Urania #1

Can you see if perhaps the types are wrong for the two last items in this issue? Thanks. MHHutchins 15:48, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Corrected, but I think that review would be removed manually.--ErnestoVeg 16:14, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
You are correct. Once a record is typed as REVIEW, it cannot be edited. It must be removed. You made the correct submissions (add a new record, then remove the old record.) Great! MHHutchins 16:30, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

"Darwinian Pool Room" and "Death's Deputy"

Can I assume that these are the same stories by Asimov and Hubbard, and only a pseudonym is credited? I want to create variants so that they link to the original title record. The story by "Frankie Rohne" concerns me, because "Death's Deputy" was published the following year in I Romanzi di Urania #37. Is this the same story? Thanks. MHHutchins 16:33, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Aha! Your submissions creating pseudonyms answers my questions. Thanks. MHHutchins 16:37, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
I've replyed, but there was some conflict when I save the page |-)--ErnestoVeg 16:53, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
We both must have been editing the page at the same time. That caused the conflict. Everything worked out. MHHutchins 19:16, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Urania #11

Is the story "Turnover Point" by "G. H. Rains" the same story by Alfred Coppel published earlier in 1954 in the US? MHHutchins 06:15, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes, it is. I submit as pseudonym--ErnestoVeg 06:24, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
The menu to made ps was changed, I've seen.--ErnestoVeg 06:30, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
Yes some software changes were made within the last hour! Good eye!
Also is "A. McFail" really Fredric Brown writer of "Something Green" in Urania #12? Thanks. MHHutchins 06:32, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
Yes. Same story and same translation of a previous published, in general magazine Visto, story appeared as "Il naufrago dell'infinito" as by Fredric Brown. Please note that until 1960 the original title of the shortstories were not credited (as covers and interior illustratons). Monicelli, when use a story previous published in Visto change the Italian title and the name of the author. Piracy, I suppose. Many of these stories, in the beginning, were credited to Monicelli. All the stories are checked as primary verify. There are some stories that we are not able to individuate. But bibliography is a never ended story.--ErnestoVeg 06:49, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
When a story is credited to Monicelli on the title page of the story, we want the same credit for the ISFDB record. We can then create a variant to link it to the original author and the original title record of the story. Thanks. MHHutchins 14:51, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
There are not stories credited to Monicelli; only murmurs about pseudonym credited to him. I always cite the name in the text. In I Romanzi del Cosmo #9, I've enter Milton Lesser and the original title of the story. The story in text is credited to Fredric Brown (as I reported in note), and the original title (strangely at the top of the story, not at the bottom as usual is "Daymare", but the story is NOT "Daymare". An afternoonmare!--ErnestoVeg 15:09, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Submissions for I Romanzi del Cosmo

In your submissions for this series, you've chosen not to place a space between the name and the issue number, e.g. I Romanzi del Cosmo#1. Was this intentional or a typographical error? Thanks. MHHutchins 14:47, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, typographical error!--ErnestoVeg 14:51, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
I'll accept the submissions, but will have to correct the cover art title record and the editor record, because all three are created at the time of the first submission. Thanks. MHHutchins 14:53, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
Ok. Now I know how to do!; with #10 the editor story of Monicelli/Arn0, Ends.--ErnestoVeg 15:00, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Tubb novel in I Romanzi del Cosmo #3

Do you know the title of Tubb's original novel that became Starship? I can't find the record so that I can link it. Thanks. MHHutchins 15:12, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

The Space-Born; Starship was published in New Worlds--ErnestoVeg 15:15, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
Sorry: Star Ship--ErnestoVeg 15:18, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

I Romanzi del Cosmo #4 missing

You skipped #4 in the series. Thanks. MHHutchins 15:28, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Was lost this morning. Was very difficult submit entries. And as I don't know if #54 was 4 or 5...--ErnestoVeg 15:31, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
I assumed it was #5 because that was in the Catalog number field. If the contents of both issues were conflated, it should be no trouble. Go ahead and leave this record as #5 and add or drop content titles as needed. Then create a new record for #4. No problem. Thanks. MHHutchins 15:51, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
I made it--ErnestoVeg 16:14, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

I Romanzi di Urania #s 46, 47 & 48

I Romanzi di Urania #46, #47, and #48 are all dated 1954-06-10 , breaking the previous pattern. Is this an entry error, or did the magazine actually publish three issues with the same date? -DES Talk 16:06, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. I've corrected data on title entry and in interior date where appropriate (#47 e #48)--ErnestoVeg 16:14, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Robert Teldy-Naïm

Can you check this author's page and make sure that the credits are correct? You see the first was as "Teldy Naïm" and the second was as "Naïm Teldy". If both are correct we need to create a pseudonym for each. Thanks. MHHutchins 19:22, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Both entries are correct. I've made both pseudonym of Robert Teldy-Naïm.--ErnestoVeg 05:51, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
Strange indeed. Submissions accepted. Thanks. MHHutchins 06:21, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
"There are many things in heaven..." :-)--ErnestoVeg 06:24, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Mondourania

Mondourania change all Kurt Caesar to C. Caesar. Webmaster Sergio Bosani wrote me, on September 22, 2009: "Via libera anche per il collegamento con ISFDB" freely translated: "OK to use direct link". Thus now I use Mondourania site for Urania.
The format is www.mondourania.com/urania/un1-n2/un.jpg where n1-n2 is a range of 20 numbers and un is a number in the range. The link must be credited to Mondourania, of course. I think that would be not so difficult to made a little program to update automatically older submissions.--ErnestoVeg 08:12, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

I will notify the "higher-ups" to let them know we have permission to link, and let them create the credit link. Thanks for your efforts. MHHutchins 17:23, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
I'll try to contact a friend in noosfere. The site has many French covers...--ErnestoVeg 17:32, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
And they also have a lot of American pulp magazines. Permission to link their images would be great. Thanks. MHHutchins 17:43, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Urania #160

I see a couple of problems with this issue. The novel should be by E. C. Tubb, and the notes appear to be incomplete. Thanks for checking. MHHutchins 17:44, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Fixed them just as I posted the note. Thanks. MHHutchins 17:49, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
|-)--ErnestoVeg 17:57, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Unknown story by "Ernest Blyedown"

Would it be possible to translate back into English the first couple lines of this story? We'll try matching it with a story by August Derleth. Thanks. MHHutchins 18:12, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Oh, I see you've named some characters in the story. I'll see if that helps. Thanks. MHHutchins 18:13, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Urania #196

The cover of Urania #196 gives credit of the novel to "H. K. Bulmer" which is how the book was credited as well. How is it credited inside the issue? Thanks. MHHutchins 06:45, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

H. K. Bulmer, Sorry--ErnestoVeg 06:49, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

"Until 2009"

I've seen you use the phrase "until 2009" to describe novels that never was published as a book or in the original language. I think perhaps the better phrase would be "as of 2009", because it is more clear. "Until 2009" means that it happened in 2009 for the first time. "As of 2009" means it has not happened yet. English syntax can be tricky even for native English speakers. :-) Thanks. MHHutchins 16:18, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Well! I must change some note :-). Thanks--ErnestoVeg 16:20, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

Urania issues with no editor credited

Just wanted to make sure that the latest set of submissions are correct. Starting with issue #268 there is no editor credited? Thanks. MHHutchins 17:12, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes. From 281 is credited to Carlo Fruttero--ErnestoVeg 17:14, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

3 Galassia

There are three magazines with name Galassia--ErnestoVeg 10:29, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

As long as they are dated and titled individually we should be able to sort them out. MHHutchins 18:12, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Robert Sheckley

Fruttero really liked those Robert Sheckley stories, because he included them in so many issues of Urania! :) MHHutchins 18:11, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes: Sheckley and Brown!--ErnestoVeg 18:13, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, I was referring to the same Sheckley stories in 285, 287, 288, and 293. Also, Brown's "The End" is in both 297 and 298. Also recheck the Kafka story (serial) in 291. Thanks. MHHutchins

I Capolavori di Urania #307bis

Does this issue contain Asimov's "Belief"? Thanks. MHHutchins 19:12, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes. Just entered--ErnestoVeg 19:15, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Galassia-Casa Ed. Galassia

I've upload 5 cover, but I don't know to link these images.--ErnestoVeg 19:17, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Go to the publication record, for example Galassia 1, choose "Edit this pub", replace the current URL for the cover image with the one you just uploaded here, then submit. You can go to the file list and click on (file) to get the URL for each of the images you uploaded. MHHutchins 19:22, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
Thanks!--ErnestoVeg 19:24, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
When overwriting images, you must enter the entire URL, just as you did when you first created the pub. So the image you first placed in this record was located at http://www.fantascienza.com/catalogo/Cov/00/00343.jpg. The image you uploaded to the ISFDB wiki is located at http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/d/d2/GLSSMSZRNC1956.jpg. The entire URL is placed into the Image URL field. Even though the wiki supports the ISFDB, it's remains separated, sharing only the domain name. All of the image files are in the wiki folder, so you can't just add the name of the file. The system places images into different subfolders when they're first uploaded. I haven't been able to figure out why or how it places images into these subfolders. I just know the entire URL must be placed into the record's Image URL field. Hope this helps. MHHutchins 05:54, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
I've added the images to the five issues of Galassia. MHHutchins 05:59, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Duplicated stories and other concerns

Sorry, when I brought up the Robert Sheckley stories above, I was being too clever for my own good, and it must not have translated well.

  1. These issues repeat the same Sheckley stories: 285, 287, 288, and 293. - Sorry! Now OK--ErnestoVeg 06:39, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
  2. Is Brown's "The End" in both 297 and 298? -Eliminated from #298 Brown and Lewis--ErnestoVeg 06:39, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
  3. Is the excerpt from Alice in Wonderland included in both 297 and 298? If so, we need to differentiate the two records. - See above--ErnestoVeg 06:49, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
  4. Recheck the Kafka story in 291. Is it a serial? - No, it is not. Corrected--ErnestoVeg 06:53, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
  5. Is Odd John in Galassia #2 the novel written by Olaf Stapledon? Should Thomas H. Morehouse be made into a pseudonym for Olaf Stapledon? - Yes, it is. Made pseudo--ErnestoVeg 06:53, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
  6. Is November the month of publication of I Capolavori di Urania #317bis, the same as #321bis? - OK. Corrected--ErnestoVeg 06:53, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
  7. Is "Cartoonist" in Urania #296 credited to only Fredric Brown, or to Brown and Reynolds. I merged it with the title record for both, but if only Brown was credited I can fix the record to reflect this. - By Brown alone--ErnestoVeg 06:53, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
  8. Are the two excerpts from Out of the Silent Planet in 294 and 295 the same? If not we need to differentiate the two records. Thanks. MHHutchins 06:20, 26 September 2009 (UTC)-OK, I modify--ErnestoVeg 06:53, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Marren Bağels

Unfortunately, the letter "ğ" is not fully supported by our software at this time. You can enter it, but then all links to the author's name will be broken and so will be author searches. I have changed the name to "Marren Bagels", but we will need to think about improving the software in this area soon. Sorry about the hassle! Ahasuerus 19:53, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

No problem.--ErnestoVeg 19:55, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

"Azimov" story in Scienza Fantastica #6

Is the story in this issue credited to "Isaac Azimov" on the first page in which the story appears (title page)? Thanks. MHHutchins 04:08, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Also, did #6 and #7 both appear in March 1953? MHHutchins 04:11, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
Yes, it's credited as Isaac Azimov; No. I'll correct...--ErnestoVeg 04:23, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Fantascienza #3

You have several interior art records credited to "uncredited (Fantascienza)" in this issue. What was your intention in adding "Fantascienza" in the credit? Thanks. MHHutchins 04:41, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

In Fantascienza the uncredited artist is ever the same.--ErnestoVeg 04:43, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
All uncredited work should simply be recorded as "uncredited". If you should ever learn through another source who the actual artist is, we can create a variant record to credit that artist. Thanks. MHHutchins 05:00, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
OK. Understood!--ErnestoVeg 16:29, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Fantascienza #2

Who is credited on the title page for "Gratitude Guaranteed" (English title) in this issue? The English version was credited to Kris Neville and R. Bretnor. Thanks. MHHutchins 05:02, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Fantascienza #4

Is the story "Vistors from Venus" credited to "T. S. Watt" (as in the English version) or "T. S. Watts" in this pub? Thanks. MHHutchins 17:58, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Sorry: Watts--ErnestoVeg 18:00, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Fantascienza #5

Are you sure "What Rough Beasts" is by Lord Dunsany or should it be Damon Knight? Also is the Dickens story repeated in this issue? MHHutchins 18:04, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Corrected--ErnestoVeg 10:02, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Urania #327

You have the novel by Galouye titled in English "The City of Force". There was a 1959 novella by that name, but it probably wasn't long enough to fill an entire issue. Do you know if there was an expanded version of the novella that was retitled for book publication? The Italian title "Psychon" is similar to the English title for the novel Lords of the Psychon. Could the version in Urania #327 be that novel? Thanks. MHHutchins 06:07, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

I've automated my submissions and the program found the first appareance as short story of this novel. Sorry.--ErnestoVeg 10:04, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Lowndes novel

I believe the cover image for this pub is incorrect. Thanks. MHHutchins 16:32, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

you're right! Corrected--ErnestoVeg 16:38, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Urania #336

I want to make sure of the author's name for "Heavenly Gifts" in this issue. The English version was credited to "Aaron L. Kolom", and this issue credits "Aaron K. Kolom". Thanks. MHHutchins 16:37, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

This edition report Aaron K. Kolom.--ErnestoVeg 16:50, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Edits

I changed the author of "Subterfuge" in Urania #341 from Aldiss to Charles Eric Maine. MHHutchins 16:45, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks!--ErnestoVeg 16:51, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Date was missing from Urania #344, so I made it 1964-08-09. MHHutchins 16:57, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

I changed the spelling of the Simak story to "Here Gather the Stars" in Terestri e no, but I wonder is this the novel Way Station that was serialized in the US as "Here Gather the Stars"? Thanks. MHHutchins 17:18, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

I changed "The Dragon Masters" in I Romanzi del Cosmo #150 from a serial to a novella, based on the current record, which makes it SHORTFICTION, and not a NOVEL. MHHutchins 17:26, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

I changed the name of the van Vogt novel in Urania #362 to match the canonical English title The World of Null-A. MHHutchins 17:42, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

"Life Heater" was changed to "The Life Hater" in Urania #360". MHHutchins 18:43, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

I've verified: in text is "The Life Hater"; you are right!--ErnestoVeg 18:48, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Edmund Cooper's 1994

I can't find an English version with the same or similar title as "1994" in Urania #352. Do you know what English title it may have been published as? Thanks. MHHutchins 17:32, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Maybe Nineteen Ninety-Four? ;-) BLongley 17:44, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
Was Published in: Voices in the Dark, Digit # D349, 1960; the original title reported is "1994"--ErnestoVeg 17:59, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
BLongley was right. Our records give the canonical English title as "Nineteen Ninety-Four". I've changed it to match. MHHutchins 18:47, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

A Requiem for Astounding

I accepted your submission adding a new pub to this title, but have a couple of questions. According to the OCLC record, this is 23cm tall which would make it a trade paperback, which we designate as "tp". (18cm and less would be "pb".) Also they show 24 roman-numeraled pages before the main text which we would record as "xxiv+224". Are both of these facts true about your copy of this edition? Thanks. MHHutchins 06:22, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Understood. It is 21.5 cm--ErnestoVeg 06:35, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Image URLs

The links you have been giving are of the wiki page of the image, not the file itself. For example here is the URL for the wiki page: http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Image:SFFH1990.jpg (click here to see it). This is the URL of the image file: http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/5/59/SFFH1990.jpg (click here to see it). Go to the File list to see the images you've just uploaded. You'll see two links under the Name column. The first link is the URL of the wiki page. The second link shown as (file) is the URL of the image itself. This is the URL which should be placed in the pub record's Image URL field. Hope this helps. MHHutchins 07:59, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Sorry. It is possible that at the end I learn!

Urania #321

Error submission, Sorry--ErnestoVeg 12:01, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Strange submission

I'm holding a submission for Urania #321, which has the cover for Urania #364, and the contents of Urania #315. Is this a test? Below is a screenshot of the submission:

Urania321sub.jpg

MHHutchins 16:50, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Just saw your note above. I'll reject the submission. I wonder how something like this could happen. Thanks. MHHutchins 16:51, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
Yes. It can happen here :-) Excuse me--ErnestoVeg 16:59, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

John W. Campbell series

A question about two stories by John W. Campbell, Jr. published in Urania #370 and Urania #374. I assumed that the first story (because of its length) was a reprint of the entire collection The Incredible Planet, not just the novella of the same name that was included in the collection. But the second story "The Infinite Atom" also appeared in the collection. So should these two be linked to the corresponding novellas? Thanks. MHHutchins 18:05, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

As you know, the The Incredible Planet was composed by three stories: "The Incredible Planet" (Ch. 1-3 of Italian edition Avventura nell'iperspazio); "The Interstellar Search" (Ch. 4-15 of Italian edition Avventura nell'iperspazio); "The Infinite Atom" (translated as L'atomo infinito). Thus is possible to connect the first 'novel' with the first two stories and the second 'novel' with the third story. An headhache, I think.--ErnestoVeg 18:29, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
That explains it. I'll have to figure out how to record the first story (in Urania #370) as a combination of the first two stories in the collection. Yes, a headache, but at least we can record it in the pub notes. Thanks. MHHutchins 18:53, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
In the first submission see I've registered the individual stories. As in my index. But other editions are considered as a single work. It's possible or useful to enter the link in a note?--ErnestoVeg 06:54, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Another little problem

Some time happens that a story was credited to another author (is the case of I Romanzi del Cosmo #9 where the story is credited to Fredric Brown. I've reported the information in note. But there are other cases--ErnestoVeg 18:29, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

This will have to remain in the notes. I can think of no other way to record it without it messing up both authors' credits. MHHutchins 18:51, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Urania #378

Surely Orphans of the Sky is the same 1963 novel by Robert A. Heinlein, not an original Italian novel. :) MHHutchins 18:13, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

There are two translator and is a matter of fact that my program is not perfect. I don'see, of course, but with you as moderator...--ErnestoVeg 18:38, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
Maybe it's by his distant cousin, Roberto Heinleini? :) BLongley 18:35, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
Are you learning Italian? Would be a good thing! I know a policeman named Roberto Unlini.:-)--ErnestoVeg 18:42, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
Not deliberately. I do live in the English county with the highest proportion of Italians in though, enough that local radio does broadcast in Italian for a part of each Sunday. So I guess I pick up a little at times. BLongley 17:47, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

"Witt Miller" = David Bischoff

I'm concerned that you're making "Witt Miller" a pseudonym for David Bischoff. Unless it's a different "David Bischoff", I can't imagine a fourteen-year-old American kid contributing to an Italian magazine. Looking on your Catalogo Sf, Fantasy e Horror website, I see that the pieces are assigned to R. De Witt Miller, but as uncredited. In this case the author of the pieces will be entered as "uncredited". Also, instead of "unknown" as the title of piece, we can make an exception and give the Italian title as recorded in the magazine. If we know that R. De Witt Miller wrote the pieces, we can create a variant record, just as we did for "Isaac Azimov" and "C. C. MacCapp". We would not create a pseudonym of "uncredited" as "R. De Witt Miller", just a variant. Here's an example of how the changes would be submitted: in this issue change the record for "unknown" by "Witt Miller" to "Serpenti di mare" by "uncredited". Please ask if you have any questions. MHHutchins 03:42, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Sorry. I had want to make Witt Miller a variant of R. DeWitt Miller. I've noted 91, but I wrote 95. All the unknown essays are above the common Italian title: Cronache dell'inspiegabile. Only the first essay is esplicitly credited to Witt Miller. In this sense I wrote in note, [uncredited]--ErnestoVeg 04:29, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
So, in Urania #402, the essay will be "Serpenti di mare" by "Witt Miller". In #404, it will be "Poteri paranormali" by "uncredited". In #406, it will be "Esperimenti dimenticati" by "uncredited". Etc. Because we don't know the English source for these essays we should use the Italian name. If the author is not credited, but you have confirmed information from a secondary source we can create a variant giving that author credit. Still the record must first show the actual credit given in print. Thanks. MHHutchins 04:39, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
Another thing, you don't have to enter the author's record number when making a pseudonym. I find it easier to simply type the author's name in the second field. That way you don't have to look up the author's record number if you know his name. MHHutchins 04:57, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
So, I must change "unknown" with Italian title, credited to Witt Miller (as the first installment is credited to this author. In note: [author uncredited in this issue). Example: "Cronache dell'inspiegabile. Serpenti di mare" by Witt Miller; "Cronache dell'inspiegabile. Esperimenti dimenticati" by Witt Miller, with in note: [author non credited in this issue] and so on. The source is a little preface to the first essay and the common grouping title. The probably source is, according to Italian translation: Impossible - Yet It Happened. I'll wait green light to proceed.--ErnestoVeg 05:02, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
Only credit "Witt Miller" in the one issue where he is credited. All the others will be recorded as "uncredited" in the author field. I will then make a variant record to show that it was written by R. DeWitt Miller, but not credited in print. The essays must have come from this book of unexplained phenomenon. So proceed as we've discussed, using the Italian titles. You may add "Cronache dell'inspiegabile" to the title, but use a colon to separate the subtitles as in "Cronache dell'inspiegabile: Serpenti di mare". You can place in the notes field that the essay is believed to be an excerpt from Miller's book Impossible - Yet It Happened and the English title is unknown. Thanks. MHHutchins 05:24, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
I edited Urania #412. Please look to see how other issues with these essays should be entered. I will make the variant to give Miller credit. You should enter the record with "uncredited" in the author field. Thanks. MHHutchins 05:37, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
OK. I'll uniform all entries, using a colon (as the Italian use is different)--ErnestoVeg 05:45, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

I Capolavori di Urania

The series is complete.--ErnestoVeg 10:43, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Malformed dates

The submissions for Urania #426 - 429 all had malformed publication dates. I can't tell exactly how they were entered, because the system changes all malformed dates to 0000-00-00. (I suspect that Urania #429, for example, was dated 1966-27-03 instead of 1966-03-27.) When this happens I have to make edits on the three records that are created when a new pub is entered: the publication record, the editor record, and the cover art record. I also have to change the dates of the contents to match the pub record, but this can be done at the same time as the pub record edit. This also happens when a editor credit is missing, but I only have to edit the editor record. For example, when you accidentally omit one of the editors, you can update the publication, adding the omitted editor credit, but that doesn't complete the process. I have to edit the editor record also. The point of this message is to ask that you especially check those two fields: the date field and the editor field. All of the other fields can be easily updated. There is so much that I'm doing behind the scenes to integrate these titles into the database, that doing those extra edits makes more work. Thanks for your contributions. I appreciate your efforts. MHHutchins 16:40, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Don't hurry. I'll correct all the data. Sorry!--ErnestoVeg 16:43, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
When I correct the date, sometime I cancel the separator. I'll make a little program to convert my format in ISFDB format to avoid this problem. How translate Spring, Summer, Fall/Autumn, Winter?--ErnestoVeg 18:31, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
We don't. Unless there's a known Month, all seasons get dropped and we use the year alone. We can't order them within a year - Winter may be considered the start of one year or the end of the previous one, and that's just in the Northern Hemisphere. And we deal with Australian titles too, like Magazine:Eidolon, where they start a year with Summer. BLongley 18:57, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
Thanks!--ErnestoVeg 19:07, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

Series re-assignment

I'm holding the submission that wants to place the series Urania under the series I Romanzi di Urania. I believe these should be considered a subseries of a superseries. Would you have an idea what we could could call this new series? Urania Rivista and I Capolavori di Urania would also be a part of this series. I would like to call it Urania, but we would have to rename the series that contains Issues 153-present. Any ideas? MHHutchins 18:07, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

I Romanzi di Urania and Urania are the same series (as Astounding and Analog). The other two, are separated serie altought I Capolavori di Urania was merged in the principal series. But I'm not sure to have made the right submission. The superserie maybe I Romanzi di Urania/Urania.--ErnestoVeg 18:26, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
I made I Romanzi di Urania and Urania into one series named "Urania" and placed it along with the other magazines into Mondadori. This is a temporary fix until we come up with something else, but I think it works well. It will be easy to change if we think of a better name. Take a look and tell me how you feel. Thanks. MHHutchins 19:02, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
Thanks!--ErnestoVeg 19:06, 2 October 2009 (UTC)

I Romanzi del Cosmo #2

Sorry. I Romanzi del Cosmo #2, must be: #141; also in ISBN / Catalog #: #141--ErnestoVeg 09:57, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Fixed. MHHutchins 15:25, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

"Hell" by Howard Lyon

I can not find an English title (or author) equivalent to this story in Urania #462. Do you know if this could be a retitled or miscredited story? The only 1964 story by this title in the database is "Hell" by Robert Rohrer. Thanks. MHHutchins 15:24, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Yes, It's that. Contento wrote: Hell [as by Howard Lyon in toc.], (ss) Fantastic Nov 1964; Urania editors use the data avalaible in TOC. Just happened with Mary Larson.--ErnestoVeg 15:31, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

"A School Story" by M. R. James

Does this story appear in both Urania #460 and #462? Thanks. MHHutchins 15:28, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Sorry. Removed--ErnestoVeg 15:34, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Urania #482

"The Night Before" is credited to George Smith; actually George Henry Smith--ErnestoVeg 18:12, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Leinster novel in Urania #468

Can you tell if the novel published in this issue is the 1964 novel Time Tunnel or the 1967 television novelization The Time Tunnel? Thanks. MHHutchins 20:46, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

TV Novelisation The Time Tunnel--ErnestoVeg 22:42, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

"The Secret of Cornwallis" by Kenneth Bulmer

Source unknown--ErnestoVeg 16:27, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

L. R. Johannis and R. L. Johannis

Can I assume that "R. L. Johannis" was a miscredit for L. R. Johannis, not a typo? If so, I'll need to set up a pseudonym. Thanks. MHHutchins 17:02, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Yes it is. On the cover is possible to see the miscredit. If you agree, I can set pseudo, as I've other Johannis pseudo to set.--ErnestoVeg 17:07, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
Yes, please do. Will you be setting up both as a pseudonym? Because L. R. Johannis is currently set up as a parent author record with three pseudonyms. If you make him a pseudonym of Luigi Rapuzzi, then you'll have to remove the three pseudonym from Johannis and move them to Rapuzzi also. And is L. J. Rapuzzi, the editor, also Luigi Rapuzzi. If all of these are the same person, you must first determine who will be the canonical (parent) author name. Thanks. MHHutchins 17:12, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
Luigi Rapuzzi is best known as L. R. Johannis. It is better to use this as canonical name.--ErnestoVeg 17:54, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Luigi Naviglio

I've removed as Flash pseudo. After approval I set Flash as pseudo of Naviglio.--ErnestoVeg 18:00, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

Walter Miller, Jr. or Walter M. Miller, Jr.

Are you certain that the story by Miller is credited to the author without his middle initial in this pub? I've already created a variant record, just wanted to be sure. Thanks. MHHutchins 06:27, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

I've not this edition but in reprint the author is quoted as Walter Miller, jr. I've uniformated the Jr. suffix.--ErnestoVeg 06:32, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
As you can see on cover (Futuria #4), Miller is credited without middle M.; in essay and biblio the name is complete.--ErnestoVeg 06:53, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Essays in Futuria

I translated the titles into English of the three autobiographical essays published in Futuria #1-3 (Poul Anderson, James White and Jerry Sohl), but placed a note on each of the title records that they were Italian translations from unknown sources. Sometimes something is better than nothing. :) Thanks. MHHutchins 14:57, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

I agree :-) --ErnestoVeg 14:59, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Le città invisibili

I'm holding a submission which wants to unmerge this pub from its title record. It looks to be under the right title. Is there something I'm missing? Thanks. MHHutchins 15:23, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

The old title have an html ampersand & code for à. I hope to have eliminate the first entry as they seems equal on the screen.--ErnestoVeg 15:28, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
Done. MHHutchins 16:43, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
Thanks--ErnestoVeg 16:43, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

"Almost Human" by Lan Stewart

Lan Stewart is an Italian pseudo for Robert Bloch--ErnestoVeg 16:36, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

"Almost Human" by Lan Stewart

Is this Robert Bloch's story published under a pseudonym? MHHutchins 16:56, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Now I see you respond before I even ask. Wonderful! Thanks. MHHutchins 16:56, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

"The Jolly Boys" by Walter Mancikis

sic! for Maneikis--ErnestoVeg 20:51, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

"Fluorocarbons Are Here to Stay" by De Westlake

sic! for Donald E. Westlake--ErnestoVeg 11:14, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

"Uncle Phil in TV"

Is a misprint, sorry: "Uncle Phil on TV"--ErnestoVeg 13:51, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Pay Attention: Fiction #34

It is possible that the date was wrong. Correct date is 1956-09-00--ErnestoVeg 13:30, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Also: Father would be a SERIAL: Father (Part 2 of 2)--ErnestoVeg 13:32, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Publisher: Alfred A. Knopf

There are at least four variants:

  • Alfred A. Knopf
  • Alfred Knopf
  • Knopf
  • New York: Knopf

It needs some superpower!--ErnestoVeg 15:01, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

"Lean Times in Lankhmar" by Maurice Breçon

Sic! Maurice Breçon pseudo Leiber--ErnestoVeg 16:18, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Author credit for "Lean Times in Lankhmar"

Is the credit given in Cosmo #59 correct? Thanks. MHHutchins 16:27, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Yes, Sir!--ErnestoVeg 16:28, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Simak story in Terrestri e no

Do you know if "Here Gather the Stars" in this anthology was a translation of the serialization of Way Station? Or perhaps it was condensed? Thanks. MHHutchins 16:56, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

It's the translation of the serialization on Galaxy--ErnestoVeg 16:58, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. Also, are the essays and editor credit given to Roberta Rambelli or "R. Rambelli"? MHHutchins 16:59, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
The main introduction is signed r. r., the other are uncredited, but surely by Roberta (personal communication).--ErnestoVeg 17:09, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
Does the main title page give any editor credit? If not we should attribute it to "uncredited" but make Rambelli into a variant so that she gets credited in the database. MHHutchins 17:30, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
Main title page reports: Prefazione e presentazioni di Roberta Rambelli (Preface and Presentation by Roberta Rambelli)--ErnestoVeg 17:46, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
Good, we can leave the essay credits as entered. Thanks. MHHutchins 18:05, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Jeffery or Jeffrey Loyd Castle? =

In Italian edition of Vanguard to Venus) is Jeffrey as in the note of this; Tuck reports Jeffery, as Clute and Nichols; also British Library.--ErnestoVeg 18:22, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

That note may be a typo. I'll ask the verifier. I believe "Jeffery" is the correct name. If "Jeffrey" is used in the Italian edition, we'll have to create a variant of the name. MHHutchins 18:36, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
Thanks--ErnestoVeg 18:38, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Placing titles into series

I removed the series Nove storie per nove pianeti from the title records of the two parts of "Plutone: Piano incremento vendite" by "Rainbell" and placed it onto the parent title I created for Rambelli. Only parent titles should be placed into series, otherwise they will be duplicated on the series listing. If the story was written under a pseudonym wait until the parent record has been created, then place the series name into that record. Looking at the series listing you will see that the variants show up automatically if the parents are in the series. Thanks. MHHutchins 18:48, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

I'll try again with other eight stories. Thanks--ErnestoVeg 18:54, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Operazione Key 1444 by James Blish

It is a typo: must be: Morton Sidney--ErnestoVeg 09:33, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Fixed. BLongley 15:10, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Ugo Malagudi

sic! for Ugo Malaguti--ErnestoVeg 12:03, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Far Centaurus

This seems to be in both I Romanzi del Cosmo #89 and I Romanzi del Cosmo #90 ? BLongley 15:12, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

In #90 is a mistake. I'll eliminate after your approval. There are moral problems with #69 8-)?--ErnestoVeg 15:15, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
Not moral problems, just a bit of a headache with "Charles Long". Are you sure it's not "Charles R. Long"? As we already have a different Charles Long. BLongley 15:41, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
Charles Long is reported on cover and in frontespice (main page), but is surely Charles Russel Long, according with Tuck. We can credit as by "Charles R. Long" and I made a note in note "as by Charles Long"--ErnestoVeg 15:51, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
OK, let's do it that way. BLongley 16:15, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
Thanks--ErnestoVeg 16:17, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

I Romanzi del Cosmo #129

This has interior artwork for "Il denebiano Yutzy Brown" but no story of that name? BLongley 18:48, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

It's a mistake. It is a story not an art. Sorry!--ErnestoVeg 18:50, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Another mistake: Evelyn, not Evelin in Cosmo #132

Sorry, again--ErnestoVeg 18:54, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Fixed. BLongley 19:09, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
Thanks!--ErnestoVeg 19:12, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Parricidio by Luigi Naviglio

This appears to be in I Romanzi del Cosmo #165 and #166? BLongley 08:06, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Sorry. A Mistake. I'll eliminate from #166--ErnestoVeg 08:14, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Cosmo #173

Ai confini dell'universo (Complete Novel) by Charley B. Drums, must be L'ultima frontiera (Complete Novel). Sorry--ErnestoVeg 09:59, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Cosmo #194

Please, reject first submission. It is totally wrong. Sorry!--ErnestoVeg 14:51, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

I Romanzi del Cosmo / Cosmo

Completed--ErnestoVeg 16:08, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

I Romanzi del Futuro #1

Please Note: La Ribalta dell'Universo (Part 1 of 5) by Lionel Cayle must be: Il mostro dell'astronave. The other four parts were uncredited (but Lionel Cayle) --ErnestoVeg 06:46, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Galassia #10

Please reject my first submission. Although I've lived blank the first field mantaining the Author, I've not had the usual warning error. What is the problem?--ErnestoVeg 12:58, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

It was accepted before I saw your posting here. (It would be best to place notices like this on the Moderator Noticeboard). There should have been a warning if you left out the author (editor, in the case of a magazine) either in the header field or any content field. Both submissions came through, but they are very different. This one is an entire issue of original Italian stories, but the content records did not come through. This one has the Lester del Rey novel. Please make adjustments, or deletions, to correct the records. Thanks. MHHutchins 17:20, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
I see now. The first record was a duplicate of Galassia #9. That one should be deleted. MHHutchins 17:21, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
The next time i'll use Moderator Noticeboard--ErnestoVeg 17:54, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Galassia, some questions

In #11 what is meant by the page number "II cov."?

Strange. I'm sure that I've replied. The preface was on the retro of the fron cover, thus II cover, abbreviated cov.--ErnestoVeg 18:21, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
If the covers aren't numbered, then this would be recorded as "fep" (for "front end paper", according to ISFDB standards. I'll change it. Thanks. MHHutchins 19:41, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
My fault. Thanks.--ErnestoVeg 19:48, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

In #14 was the novel credited to "Jac" Vance?

I'see the note but I've not see the mistake. I've some problem with contact lens :-). I've corrected in Jack. And my sight was not too clear.--ErnestoVeg 18:21, 14 October 2009 (UTC)



In #29, I can't find an English-language equivalent of the story by Asimov. Any idea what name other than "The Accountant" this story could be?

Thanks. MHHutchins 17:28, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Sorry. It is a story by Sheckeley.--ErnestoVeg 17:59, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
Thanks. What about the first two questions above? MHHutchins 18:08, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
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