User talk:Ofearna/Archive21
The Book of Ballads
Hi Susan, today you changed The Book of Ballads from COLLECTION to ANTHOLOGY. If you read the notes that go with both publications, you can see why they were entered as collections. We now have the title as edited by Charles Vess, the editor however is Teresa Nielsen Hayden, as stated in the pubs. This should of course have been discussed with the primary verifiers. Was there an overwhelming reason for this change? --Willem 14:25, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
- A collection is defined as a collection of short stories by the same author; an anthology is a collection of short stories by different authors. Ballads and The Book of Ballads were short stories by different authors, illustrated by Charles Vess... Susan O'Fearna 16:12, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
- Please read the notes, specially "Technically this is a non-genre anthology." As an anthology it would not be allowed in the database (and if so, edited by Teresa Nielsen Hayden, not Charles Vess), so it was entered as a collection of artwork by Charles Vess. Again, these changes should have been discussed with the primary verifiers. --Willem 20:52, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
- I didn't add those notes as I'm not the primary verify-er. The stories are fantasy adaptations of traditional ballads (not non-genre) that were published as illustrated short stories/comic books (which may be why they put them as non-genre?) then collected as BALLADS for part of the stories, then THE BOOK OF BALLADS collects all the issues. It should be edited by Charles Vess AND Terese Nielsen Hayden, but the copyright page just says Hayden (the individual issues were by Vess / the BOOK OF BALLADS by Hayden) Susan O'Fearna 21:19, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
- I see your reasoning. So why was there no message on my talkpage? I've drawn the attention of the other verifier, who did add the notes, here. If he doesn't respond in a week, I'll make some changes to conform to ISFDB policy. --Willem 09:44, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
- OK, thanks Susan O'Fearna 16:33, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
- Two weeks later and no response from Mark Kupper, so I adapted the notes and added Teresa Nielsen Hayden as editor. Can you agree with these changes? --Willem 21:10, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
- yes (sorry, didn't get a notification of new message...) Susan O'Fearna 01:01, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
Cauldron pool
INTERIORART title should be Caldron Pool unless the caption is misspelled.
--Pwendt from mobile phone where I don't see tilde.
- who are you? what are you talking about? Susan O'Fearna 06:23, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
- Nope, it's "By Caldron Pool" -- I'll go fix it -- thanks Susan O'Fearna 22:20, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
Silent Music
Hello Susan, there's perhaps a misunderstanding here. Either the book is a CHAPBOOK and contain as per our definition only one text (logically the NKH one) and so Smith can't be the co-author, or the book is in fact a COLLECTION with more than one story (it seems the case as per the cover). In both cases, the author(s) declared at title level MUST be the same as those declared at publication level (if not the book appears on one of our cleanup reports and must be corrected). As per cover I've entered a "joint" authorship but it's likely that the book is in fact a collection. Hauck 18:29, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
- I just changed it to Anthology as there are stories (or maybe just one... I really gotta FIND it :D ) by DWS, too... Susan O'Fearna 18:40, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
- Yes, I saw and corrected some problems that arose because of this change as modifying the type is always complicated (an hint: start changing the type at title level then change it at publication level not the other way round). I was more thinking of a COLLECTION along the lines of those by Kuttner and Moore that contain texts by both authors but it's OK. Hauck 18:43, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
- thanks Susan O'Fearna 18:45, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
Mother Aegypt and Other Stories
Would you please double check the page numbers in Mother Aegypt and Other Stories (tp version)? My tp has different page numbers (for example, the first story starts on page 7). As the record has the same page numbers as the hc edition, I assume this was a mistake, but wanted to double check before I updated the record. I also plan on expanding the notes and adding a scan. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 21:34, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
- As soon as I get back from walking my dog, I'll grab that book... Susan O'Fearna 00:31, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
- OK... page 1 (not 7) is the first story... and the ToC matches the actual pagination Susan O'Fearna 02:31, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
- That's weird. I would have expected Night Shade to reprint without editing. Sorry to be repetitive, but just to make sure since you have verified both the trade paperback version and the hardcover, you double checked the trade paperback version, correct? Does it have an edition statement (on title or copyright page) and is the record's Amazon image correct (since Amazon has a tendency to change covers on us)? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 11:38, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
- Yep, they changed the page numbers. All three have same cover; trade has different comments. BUT since I'm actually transient on the TP (I keep leaving that copy at my friend Lisa's house hoping she'll read more stories), you can take over primary and do as you wish. What's weird is the only things different on the copyright page is the 3rd ISBN (limited, trade hardcover and "new" trade paperback) and the addition of Dringenberg's cover to the "photo" in the limited edition. Susan O'Fearna 16:20, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
- I'm confused. Your answers imply you physically compared the trade paperpack to its record, but then you state you don't actually have it. I'll go ahead and update the publication record. Once you have your copy back, you can double check it against the record. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 23:34, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
- I got the book from Lisa's... I checked it, but if you want to make it match your copy, that's cool, since I've got the HC... Susan O'Fearna 23:46, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
The Darkest Evening of the Year
I have updated The Darkest Evening of the Year
- Change the ISBN from 0-553-80482-0 to 978-0-553-80482-9 as the publication only has an ISBN13 on the copyright page and back cover.
- Added interior artwork for the photo of the dog on page 355.
- Adjusted the page count from 354 to 354+[1] to account for the interior artwork per Template:PublicationFields:Pages.
--Marc Kupper|talk 09:32, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
- I'll verify against my copy in a bit... Susan O'Fearna 16:39, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
- Looks OK Susan O'Fearna 01:08, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
Sandman/Dreaming Cleanup
I've seen that you've Verified some of the Sandman/Death/Dreaming Graphic novels of Neil Gaiman. I'm hoping to get that page re-sorted so all of these items are grouped together. I'd be interested to get your input. Look here is you're interested. Thanks TAWeiss 20:00, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
- I'll look... Susan O'Fearna 16:40, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
Jacquelyn Mitchard or Jacqueline Mitchard?
Is it Jacquelyn Mitchard or Jacqueline Mitchard in your verified pub Shadow Show: All New Stories in Celebration of Ray Bradbury? Left note for Rtrace regarding same.--Rkihara 17:52, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
- I checked at HarperCollins.com -- Jacquelyn (my copy's audible) Susan O'Fearna 21:43, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
The Art of Joe Jusko
Hello Susan, just to be sure, can you confirm that this work is a separate ESSAY and not an INTERIORART piece? Thanks. Hauck 11:11, 18 February 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks, fixed it Susan O'Fearna 04:50, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
Binding for PDFs
I noticed you used "other" as the binding for a bunch of PDF chapbooks. I think you could use "ebook" and in the notes say that the format is PDF. --MartyD 02:06, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
- ok Susan O'Fearna 17:44, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
Hap and Leonard Ride Again
Hi -- you have the comic book script for "The Boy Who Became Invisible" varianted to the story; I'm not sure if that's how it's supposed to be done. I asked about varianting two stories that were hevily-revised versions of each other, and got conflicting opinions; if it's translated to a different medium, probably the answer would tilt farther toward no. Want to ask about it on the Community Portal?
Anyhow, that was only one of the reasons I wanted to ask about this publication. Would it be possible for you to find out the lengths of the short fiction in this book? It's a bit of work counting words in ebooks, I know, but I'd be grateful. --Vasha 22:23, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
- They're both short stories, just one has the edits to make it a comic book, which I don't believe ever happened Susan O'Fearna 22:29, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
- Ah, I see, thanks for the clarification! --Vasha 22:42, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
- K Susan O'Fearna 23:03, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
- I have gotten the lengths now. --Vasha 03:13, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
- K Susan O'Fearna 03:24, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
- One more thing (sorry)-- I am 99% certain that what you have written down as "The Oak at the Pond" is "The Oak and the Pond". Please check on that so the change can be approved... --Vasha 04:24, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
- it would REALLY help if you linked what you were asking about... The Oak at the Pond is now AND instead of AT Susan O'Fearna 06:24, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
Author called "untitled"
Can you verify in your PV'd Realms of Fantasy, October 1999 that the author of "Books to Watch For (Realms of Fantasy, October 1999)" is credited as "untitled"? If it is not, it should be "uncredited" instead :) Annie 19:42, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
- I suppose Susan O'Fearna 19:44, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
Zero page counts
Hi. I had a brain cramp and accepted a few of the submissions before the "0" for the page count registered, but I've kept some of the others on hold. What are you trying to do with a page count of "0"? If it's unpaginated, the field should be left blank. But I have a feeling I don't understand something you're trying to achieve. Thanks.--MartyD 02:15, 1 April 2017 (UTC) --MartyD 03:02, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
- I'm trying to get rid of the Bibliographic Warnings on the title pages... i.e.
"Missing price: Strange Horizons, 6 January 2003 (2003-01-06) Missing page count: Strange Horizons, 6 January 2003 (2003-01-06)" Susan O'Fearna 17:29, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
- Yes, I get it. So it seems if the pubs were WEBZINE (or the binding "ebook"), there would be no page count warning if the page count were left blank. Annie says it's also available on their website, so what do you think about converting them from MAGAZINE to WEBZINE? I will put them through with the $0.00 and blank out the pages. I think we'd need to start a dreaded Rules and Standards discussion about using 0 for things that are unpaginated. Converting to webzine seems a lot easier. :-) --MartyD 02:15, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
- p.s. Ahasuerus just made the change to eliminate the page count warning for WEBZINE. But while he was doing that, he eliminated it for digital books and audio books as well. So that should take care of Drabblecast without supplying a page count. --MartyD 02:21, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
- Cool, I'll ignore it if I see that message again. Susan O'Fearna 04:18, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
Sheriff Poole & the Mech Gang
In your verified Sheriff Poole & the Mech Gang, you had Sherriff instead of Sheriff :). I've submitted a change. If the title page really has a double "r", it can be reversed and a note will need to be added. Annie 07:19, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
- I noticed yesterday that the chapbook and short story both had RR and I checked... notpe. Sheriff, not Sherriff (d'oh!) Susan O'Fearna 17:23, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
- And the coverart record :) I submitted changes for all of them last night so they got cleaned at some point :) All of them look fine now so we are all set. Annie 17:30, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks Susan O'Fearna 17:56, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
Dark Tower: The Gunslinger Born - date check
Can you check the date for your verified Dark Tower: The Gunslinger Born? I have a suspicion that this should have been 2008 and not 2017? And I do not think it is a novelization - as it is not based on a movie/TV series/game/whatever - you cannot really novelize a novel :) Annie 17:21, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
- According to the marvel website, it's an adaptation of Wizard & Glass... one of the GN caveats was that they were publishing the Roland story in chronological order. Susan O'Fearna 17:24, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
- Adaptation is not a novelization though. Annie 17:28, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
- ok, should I change that or will you? Susan O'Fearna 17:42, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
- You will be submitting a date change anyway, right? You can uncheck this as well at this point. Alternatively, if you tell me what the date should really be, I can do that? Annie 17:52, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
- The date change is pending... Susan O'Fearna 17:53, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
- A second update now will make a mess as it will revert the date when accepted after the date change is accepted. So let's wait for the date change to go through and then I will submit it (so you do not need to track it)? Annie 17:54, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks Susan O'Fearna 17:56, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
- And all done :) Thanks for fixing the dates! Annie 18:40, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
- Okie-dokie (btw, don't melt down-the-valley -- it's SNOWING up here in Flag Susan O'Fearna 19:00, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
- Not that hot today - mainly because of the massive sandstorm from last night and the one that seems to be brewing up again today. No one believes me when I try to explain to them that Arizona is not just the valley. :) Stay safe up there - snowing and valley drivers coming up for the weekend is never fun. Annie 19:17, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
- We call em bloody ijits :D -- but we're SICK to the gills of snow Susan O'Fearna 19:20, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
Dark Tower: The Long Road Home Cover Art
Please double check the cover art for Dark Tower: The Long Road Home. The current image says it's The Gunslinger Born. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 22:46, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for catching that Susan O'Fearna 23:53, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
Zero prices
I don't know that it matters, but I'm inclined to have zero prices entered currency-style, rather than as just "0", using the publishing location as a guide for what currency. So for US-based things, "$0.00". For UK-based things, "£0.00", and so on. Other moderators (and you) may think I'm nuts.... Anyway, I do change them if I notice them. Just wanted to explain what is going on. --MartyD 00:41, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
- Sounds like a plan to me :D Susan O'Fearna 17:59, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
The Masked Truth
Hello Susan, I've put your submission on hold. Can you be more precise about the spec-fic aspects of this book? I can't find any. Thanks.
- it's non-genre -- one of very few works by her that was Susan O'Fearna 16:53, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
Blind Sighted
Hi. I accepted your of the Blind Sighted title from CHAPBOOK to SHORTFICTION, but that left the pub with no CHAPBOOK container title, which would not have been a good state. So I added a new CHAPBOOK title to it. I'm not sure what you were trying to do. You could have created the SHORTFICTION title by adding it as content in the CHAPBOOK pub. Anyway, if you intended to delete the CHAPBOOK pub, sorry about creating something extra to delete. --MartyD 01:40, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
- Like Truck Stop Luck, it needs to be a short fiction title, with no pub... Susan O'Fearna 16:09, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
- Sorry for the delay -- got side-tracked. So you want the CHAPBOOK pub deleted? --MartyD 11:07, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
- yes, it should just be a short story w/no on-topic publication Susan O'Fearna 17:34, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
Offerings: The Art of Brom
Hello Susan, I've put your submission on hold as it seems to me that, apart from the dj, your proposed publication and the already existing one that you noticed are the same book. I'm not convinced by the interest of adding a new publication (of this type) just for a slightly different dj as a mention in the notes may suffice. What are your thoughts on the matter? Hauck 09:00, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
- I was going to just edit the other edition, but there do appear to be subtle differences -- there is no price anywhere on my copy. I think it may be a book club edition... Susan O'Fearna 09:10, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
- OK, it's your call. I've approved the submission. Hauck 09:20, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
- Awesome, do you think I should label it book club edition? Susan O'Fearna 09:22, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
- I saw that you modified the notes, IMHO it's enough without more evidence. Hauck 09:31, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
- didn't really answer my question... Susan O'Fearna 14:59, 11 May 2017 (UTC)