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Welcome!

Hello, Prof beard, and welcome to the ISFDB Wiki! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

Note: Image uploading isn't entirely automated. You're uploading the files to the wiki which will then have to be linked to the database by editing the publication record.

Please be careful in editing publications that have been primary verified by other editors. See Help:How to verify data#Making changes to verified pubs. But if you have a copy of an unverified publication, verifying it can be quite helpful. See Help:How to verify data for detailed information.

I hope you enjoy editing here! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will insert your name and the date. If you need help, check out the community portal, or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome! Mhhutchins 14:28, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Cover image file uploads

I had to remove the link to the image you uploaded for this publication, and delete it from the database. I will reupload it using the proper method. In the future, when adding a cover image file to the server, you must use the "Upload cover scan" link from the publication record. (At the time the file was uploaded, the publication record had not been created. So you have to wait until a moderator accepts the submission to add the record to the database before uploading the cover image from the record.) Do not use the "Upload file" link on the Wiki pages (that is reserved for files other than cover images).

Also, I'll have to delete this file (inscription from the Brunner poetry collection) because it is not the cover of the book. Please use the "Upload cover scan" function to only upload cover images. Thanks for contributing. Mhhutchins 15:02, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

It is the "cover" of the book as such... The collection was published privately by the author a set of duplicated pages with a stapled plain brown paper cover. The copy I have (obtained from Curry some years back) has an inscription written across the front by the author. The image is of the "front" of the publication - I grant that an unsigned one would be just plain brown page, but that's how it was published? Prof beard 15:20, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
Did every copy of the publication have this same "cover", i.e. did they have the same inscription and signature? Mhhutchins 15:33, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Frankly, I don't think anyone knows, that collection was a private publication in small quantity and was, I understand largely sent by Brunner to friends etc - it is likely he wrote on most/all of them. My copy has "Don" included as JB sent the copy to Donald A Wollheim. I would assume other copies had different names on them! Perhaps if I just put a publication note explaining that rather than a cover picture? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Prof beard (talkcontribs) .

I'll add a link from the publication record to the image, but will add a note of explanation. (A tip: When linking an image to a pub record, you must use the complete URL and not just the file name. Also, don't forget to sign each of your wiki posts.) Thanks. Mhhutchins 15:41, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! Thanks also for your patience - I'm very IT savvy, but unfamiliar with the conventions of this wiki (my experience is limited to a few small WIkipedia entries) - I'll get there in the end Prof beard 15:45, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Yes, wiki is a whole different language! And I've no doubt you'll catch on easily. You've found the wiki the first day of your account. Sometimes that has taken weeks (and even never) for some users! Thanks for contributing. Mhhutchins 15:48, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
I've linked the cover and updated the publication record for Brunner's poetry collection. If the pages on which the poems appear are numbered, please add them to the record's content section. If not, you can number the poems in the order in which they appear in the publication, but add a note that you're making that exception to the page numbering standard. Mhhutchins 15:52, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Clarke's Four Great SF Novels

Submission adding this record accepted. A tip: using the Clone function of the original record would have resulted in the transfer of all of the content titles as well. Now that the new record is created, you can add the contents using the Import function. This avoids entering new content titles that will have to be merged with the existing titles. Ask if you need help. Mhhutchins 14:52, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the clone tip, I think I've imported successfully... Prof beard 15:00, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
Yes, it was fine and submission was accepted. A question: how certain are you that the BCA edition has different pagination from Gollancz's trade edition. I just checked the OCLC record for the Gollancz edition and it has the same page count, so I assume the pagination is also the same.
Another Wiki mark-up tip: adding a colon at the start of the message indents it from the previous one, make it easier to follow the discussion. Keep adding a colon for each subsequent post. Look at the raw data to see how it's entered. Thanks. Mhhutchins 15:03, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
My version has the number of pages I indicated which differs from the entry in ISFDB for the Gollanz version - I couldn't verify the Gollanz entry was wrong, so commented as I did as the contents are listed as the same.Prof beard 15:30, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
Since I just corrected the ISFDB record's page count field, based on the OCLC record, the note about the different pagination of the BCA edition should be removed. It can't be determined that the pagination is truly different until someone does a primary verification of the Gollancz edition. Mhhutchins 16:04, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Sounds right, ok will do Prof beard 16:30, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Brunner's The Man Who Was Secrett and Other Stories

I'm holding your submission to change the title of the introduction to this collection. We normally disambiguate generically-titled introductions by adding the title of work being introduced parenthetically. If the introduction is not generic and has an actual title, then that should be used as the title of the work without parentheses, unless parentheses are actually used in title! You changed it to "Introduction (The Man Who Wrote Marvels)". How is the introduction actually titled? Mhhutchins 14:58, 16 September 2013 (UTC)


Thanks for the clarification. It should be just "The Man Who Wrote Marvels" then. Prof beard 15:01, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Making changes to verified publication records

Hi, and welcome. Thank you for all of your recent contributions. One procedural policy item for you to be aware of: When you want to make a change that would affect a publication that has Primary verification(s), our policy is to notify the verifier(s) of the changes by leaving a message on the verifier's talk page or by following whatever directions that person may have posted at the top of the talk page. In general, you can submit additions in parallel with notifying the verifier that you have done so, but you should ask a verifier before altering any data that's already there. If you run into a situation where you're adding, but it looks like the verifier missed something that should have been seen, you might want to ask first.

So, for the cover addition to Tales from the Forbidden Planet, you should have left a message for Unapersson. For the artist credit addition to It's a Mad, Mad, Mad Galaxy, you should have at least left Biomassbob a message, if not checked with him first. Since you didn't add any information about the source of the artist credit, I can't quite judge which would have been more appropriate.

This just something to keep in mind for future submissions. For these, I have left notices; I am holding the second one until Bob responds. Thanks. --MartyD 13:28, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Understood and thanks for the advice Prof beard 13:32, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
I've left Bob a note to explain that the artist credit came from the cover of my copy of the publication.Prof beard 13:36, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Adjusting notes on primary verified records

If the price is present on this publication you can remove the note that gives the source of the price. You can do this anytime you do a primary verification of a record. If any of the data fields are not present in the actual book, only then should the source be noted. Thanks. Mhhutchins 13:47, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks and doneProf beard 13:52, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Cover for The High Crusade

The cover art for this publication is probably Peter Jones, based on your note that it is copyrighted as "Solar Wind". That's the name of a collection of his artwork. I'll leave a note on the primary verifier's page to see if he can look at the cover and see if it's in the collection. (The cover was used after this collection, so the artwork in the book would have a different name.) Thanks. Mhhutchins 14:14, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Turns out that the cover isn't in the collection, BUT Solar Wind is Peter Jones' corporate name. Also, you can see Jones' signature (PAJ) in the center of the rock. You can update the record and credit Jones as the cover artist, and provide the evidence in the Note field. Mhhutchins 15:36, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

The Dark Light Years

You linked the incorrect image file to this record. (It was probably still in your memory from the previous submission.) Mhhutchins 15:40, 20 September 2013 (UTC)


Oops! I'll sort it now Prof beard 16:14, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Crash

Does this book give a month publication as stated in the record? If not, you should have adjusted the note to say that the month of publication was from Locus #199 (February 1977), instead of removing the entire note. Thanks. Mhhutchins 19:17, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

Apologies I though I had done that - a slip of the finger - will correctProf beard 19:24, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
One other thing: when starting a new line in the Note field, you have to enter a hard HTML break (<br>). Otherwise the sentence runs on from the previous one. Mhhutchins 19:39, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
BTW, did you miss the added note I made to the message above about the cover art for The High Crusade. Mhhutchins 19:40, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
Re Solar wind - Using my magnifying glass it actually says PAJ80 too so I'll update as you suggestProf beard 10:41, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

Kinsman

Hello, I've approved your submission regarding this pub, but I'm puzzled by the cover artist credit to Moore as this site favors Hay as artist. Note that a later printing (this one) has a cover clearly in Moore's style. Hauck 16:51, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

My deepest apologies - I paid too much attention to the publication detail and not enough to the cover image! HOWEVER... My publication detail are as stated in terms of year and price etc BUT the image is actual the same as the later one you link too. Makes me think the cover and artist attribution for this edition may be wrong? Would I change these or record this as a different edition? Prof beard 17:03, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
It's likely that the image was linked to amazon without the physical copy of the book (cover scan from amazon are sometimes not the correct ones when multiple printings exist). Just upload your own scan or use the later one (if similar). Thanks for your reply. Hauck 17:09, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
will do - thanks. Prof beard 17:12, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

Bradbury's Timeless Stories

Can you confirm the catalog number given in this record? It's 12 digits so it can't be an ISBN, and Bantam didn't start using ISBNs until 1976. At this time, Bantam had a letter (or two) and four numbers in their catalog number, and it was printed on the front cover. The number you gave may have been a precursor to the ISBN that includes the publisher code assigned to Bantam: "553", which usually appears on the spine. In the case of this publisher, it's best to follow the pattern used by other Bantam books for 1972, and enter the front cover catalog number in the ISBN/Catalog # field (starting with the "#" symbol per ISFDB standards), and entering the spine number in the Note field. Thanks. Mhhutchins 22:44, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

Yes it's the number on the spine - I did wonder about the length - I added the front 0- myself and thought it couldnt be right. The front cover catalog number is creased and looks like it is NP8102 but I'd like to check it - do you know a source?Prof beard 22:55, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
it's NP 8162 - found a copy for sale on a reputable website which confirmed thatProf beard 23:02, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
Submission accepted. But if you look at the record, you'll see the notes are all in one sentence regardless of how you entered it in the submission. As I explained above, if you want to start a new line, you must enter an HTML break. Mhhutchins 23:12, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

Formatting notes

I noticed you have been doing some note re-formatting. If you're interested in some of the basic "complex" formatting you can do, see Using HTML in Note Fields. You're under no obligation whatsoever to use anything listed there; I'm just mentioning it as an FYI. --MartyD 11:05, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Marty, I know HTML, but was unsure what limited set worked hereProf beard 14:50, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

Discussions with other editors

When leaving a message for other editors be sure to post it on their talk pages and not their user pages. Click on the "Discussion" tab on their user page first, then click on the "+" tab to start a new topic. I'll live the two messages you posted here until you've had a chance to see them. Then I'll move them to the editor's talk page. Thanks. Mhhutchins 15:21, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for that - a mistake, I should have spotted thisProf beard 15:26, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

Flow My Tears... cover art credit

Can you confirm the artist is credited as "Clifton-Day" and not "Clifton-Dey" in this publication? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 18:19, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Well spotted - that will teach me to do these things in brighter light :) - have submitted a correctionProf beard 18:25, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Incorrect content title

Your update mentions that one of the stories in this publication has a different title on its title page. In that case, you need to remove it and replace it with the correct title. Do you know how to do this? If not, I can walk you through it. Mhhutchins 15:09, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

I'd appreciate guidance on this - I realised it needed doing but couldn't do it when importing the content. Thanks Prof beard 15:25, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
I note that Stand-By (the title used in this publication) is already listed as a variant to Top Stand-By Job. - don't know if this is important in terms of process? Prof beard 15:41, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
All records must be entered based on the publication as published. If the story is title "Stand-By" in the book, then the record must reflect that. If that's the case, here's what you should do:
  1. Go to the publication record and click on the link "Remove Titles from This Pub".
  2. On the next page, check the box(es) of the story(ies) you want to remove. Submit.
  3. Go back to the publication record and click on the link "Edit This Pub".
  4. On the next page, go to the bottom of the CONTENTS section and click "Add Title"
  5. Fill in all of the appropriate fields for the missing content. Submit.
This will create a new title record, which will have to be merged with any that may already exist in the database. In this case, there is one. You can make the submission to merge the titles after the previous submissions have been made and approved by a moderator. Or I can do that for you. Mhhutchins 17:27, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
I've done steps 1 to 5 - I'd like to merge the title myself - I assume I select the title in the publication listing and select another command - can you confirm which command to use - I'm assuming I provide the title number it is to be merged withProf beard 18:08, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
Titles and publications are different animals. In this case, you want to merge identical titles. Go to the author page for Philip K. Dick and click the link "Check for Duplicate Titles". You'll get a list of matching titles on the next page. Look for "Stand-By" and check the boxes of the two (sometimes more) titles which you want to merge. On the next screen you have to reconcile any differences between the two records. In this case, choose to keep the variant (this is not the canonical title of the work), and submit. Mhhutchins 18:16, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
thanks! I think I'm beginning to get my head around this, I understand the structuring better than the language used - I'm an academic in an IT field and not a librarian :) Prof beard 18:36, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
I wish there were a better way of explaining the structure than with words! After a while and more submissions under your belt, you'll pick up on the concepts more than can be explained in the Help documentation. Something to keep in mind: title records represent the author's work, while publication records represent the presentation by the publisher, i.e. the physical object, or in the case of ebooks, the electronic file. An author's work has a single title record (unless its title is changed, requiring a variant title record), but it can be published dozens of time, with time represented in the database by a unique publication record. Mhhutchins 19:30, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
very helpfully explained and it matches the concept I had formed! I'm confident I'll pick it up, just bear with me, your help is very much appreciated... Perhaps a glossary explaining how terms like canonical, variant, pseudonym etc relate to the structure would help? Prof beard 19:35, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

The Men from P.I.G.

Your note in this record states it was reprinted in 1982, yet you gave the publication date as 1983. Is one of the dates incorrect? Mhhutchins 21:40, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for spotting that - correction inbound... Prof beard 21:52, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

One Step from Earth

Hello, one source here credites David Bergen as artist for the 1975 Arrow pbk. Does it seem likely to you (note for example the similarity with this other Harrison/Arrow title) ? Hauck 15:10, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

Well that is certainly the cover on my copy - I'm no cover artist expert but it does look like Bergen from my limited exposureProf beard 15:15, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
I've uploaded the scan and modified notes accordingly. Hauck 15:23, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

The Green Hills of Earth

Hello, I've put your sub for the 1956 Pan printing on hold. Perhaps are you thinking about this one. Note that it's likely (as it's not PVed) that the author's name is wrongly entered (as per your submission). If it's the same book, you'll have some different steps to take (PV the book, change its author, unmerge the title from the RAH-credited ones, merge it with the RH-credited ones). If you want some guidance, feel free to ask. Hauck 16:35, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

Yep that's the one - I'll cancel my other submission - and that is indeed how the author appears on the cover. If you could give me the steps needed to do the unmerging and merging I'd be grateful. I'm very IT literate (I'm a UK Emeritus Professor in an IT/Internet field) but am unsure of the structure of things on here in terms of things like merging etc - I want to learn :) Prof beard 16:41, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
OK, let's try : 1) go to the collection page here, 2) change author for the target publication here, 3) go back to the collection page and choose (tick box) the publication to unmerge from rest via the "Unmerge Title" item in the "Editing Tools" section on the left, 4) go to the "Robert Heinlein" page here where there should be only the unmerged publication, 5) choose the "view all titles by this pseudonym" display there should be two occurences of the collection (at the bottom of the page), 6) merge the two correspending items. Note that some of the stages will need to be moderated. Hauck 17:08, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
Keep in mind: we don't credit authorship based on covers or dustjackets (as you state above about the cover author). Only use the author as credited on the title page of the book, and nowhere else (unless there isn't a title page!) Mhhutchins 17:14, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
Thanks very much both - I'll have a go at this later. Thanks for the reminder re cover author - it is RH on the title page too... (Reminder to self about being precise in wording of things)Prof beard 17:26, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
Question when I select merge the titles I get a screen showing title year conflict with 1967 and 1956 shown and 1967 selected, and a title parent conflict with the numbered option selected and the un-numbered one not selected. Are these the right options selected? What do they mean/refer to? Prof beard 18:00, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
The first conflict is for the publication date => choose the earlier date, the second will keep the link (variant title) of the whole lot to the "canonical" (authored by RAH) collection so don't change it.Hauck 18:08, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
(In response to the orginal question, after an edit conflict.) No. There are no "right" options chosen. It's arbitrarily buttoned (or for some interior logic of which I'm not aware.) That leaves it up to the editor to determine which one of the conflicting fields to choose. As for dates, 99% of the time, it's best to choose the earliest. But it's good to know that the earliest one is the correct one. If one of the records is a variant (meaning there is a parent record conflict), you should choose to keep the parent record, unless your research has shown that it should not be a variant. If the title and/or author field aren't matching, they probably shouldn't be merged unless your research has determined that one of them is incorrect and should be changed in the merge. In other words, it's entirely up to the editor to resolve the conflicts. If the choices are obviously wrong, it may be caught by the moderator. But, if you are not certain, don't make the submission. First, ask on the Help Desk page. Don't make the submission and expect the moderator to determine if it was correct. Mhhutchins 18:14, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for advice and explanations both - really helpful - I like to understand what I'm doing and why :) Prof beard 18:21, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

Have Space Suit - Will Travel author credit

A question about your proposed clone of Have Space Suit - Will Travel by Robert A. Heinlein, which I have on hold: I see the note that says "Cover and Spine as by 'Robert Heinlein'". Is that meant to imply the title page does use the "A."? Thanks. --MartyD 11:28, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

Hi Marty - yes title page is RAH, Prof Prof beard 11:31, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. I added that to the note (and accepted the submission, of course!); if I wondered about it, someone else might. --MartyD 11:45, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
Thanks Marty - I'm not yet sure what it is reasonable to imply and when being explicit is essential :) Prof beard 11:47, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

Dune Cover Image

I had to reject to your edit to add a new cover image to this Dune, as the image was of Heinlein's I Will Fear No Evil. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 12:18, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

Sorry about that (had multiple tabs open) - correct one on its wayProf beard 12:26, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

The Troglodytes

The date change for this record was accepted, but I gave Tuck as the source. I also removed the source for the review in F&SF. Tuck gives the catalog number as "R587". Does the letter appear on your copy? Also, you were correct to suspect an earlier hardcover edition. I created a record using Tuck as the source. Thanks. Mhhutchins 19:10, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks - this is starting to look a bit more sensible... No visible "R" on my copy, but the "R" seems to be the standard for Digit books of this period, so I think it is reasonable to accept it should be thereProf beard 19:23, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
No. If there is no "R" present on your copy, you should not include it in the Catalog # field. You can add a note that it isn't present although Tuck says it is. We try to record data as present in the publication, but will make corrections to obvious publisher errors (but note them). Mhhutchins 19:40, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, I'll add an appropriate note later. The cat no appears only on the spine, and as it it rubbed at the does a bit, it may be the "R" is lost, but I'll "tell it like it is"Prof beard 19:44, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

SF Hall of Fame, Volume 1

Are you certain there is no ISBN stated anywhere in this publication? By 1974, Sphere had started using ISBNs on all of their books. Sometimes they did not have dashes. Or perhaps your copy being a second printing, they may have forgot to add it. Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 20:28, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

thanks for pointing this out - after a bit of a search, I found the ISBN - have edited the record accordingly Prof beard 20:34, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

The Man-Kzin Wars

The ISBN in this record has an extra digit. Mhhutchins 20:31, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

You are right, but that isn't the edition I verified... This is the one I edited and which you approved : http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?312118Prof beard 20:40, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
And you're right. The message was meant for another editor who just made a submission cloning your pub but with a different ISBN. Just a coincidence that two editions of the same title popped up so close to each other. Sorry. Mhhutchins 20:47, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
no problem - we are all human :)Prof beard 20:53, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

The Stars in Shroud

Added a cover scan to [this] and a couple of 'non'-notes. --~ Bill, Bluesman 17:48, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

Bill - your "this" link just points to this page? ! Prof beard 19:41, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
Oops! Corrected. --~ Bill, Bluesman 20:10, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
thanks! Prof Prof beard 20:13, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

Ball in the Family

I think you meant the synopsis added to this title for the Note to Moderator field. Mhhutchins 20:23, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

partly - I'll tidy it up - thanksProf beard 22:00, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
I hope it was wholly, because such a note should not be part of the visible record. Thanks. Mhhutchins 22:32, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
I've created a variant of the title record - what do I do to make the author a pseudonym ?Prof beard 22:07, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
Go to the pseudonym and click on "Make/Remove a Pseudonym" link under Editing Tools menu. On the next page enter the canonical name in the "Parent Name" field and submit.
BTW, I fixed the capitalization of the title according to ISFDB standards. Mhhutchins 22:31, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
Got it - thanksProf beard 22:46, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
Amazon actually have a cover image for this rarity. It's not the best, and you may have a better one, so just lettin' ya know. PS. note the exclamation mark. PeteYoung 01:41, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
That's is a totally different cover from the edition I have! Could it possibly be that it was printed more than once? AmazingProf beard 10:58, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

UK priced ed. of The Worm Ouroboros

I'm holding your submission to add a new record for the August 1970 printing of this title. It appears to be identical to this record, except for the UK pricing. Is there any mention of a printing, distribution, publication, etc by a UK publisher? Is the US price "overprinted" by the UK price? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 16:15, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

My copy is a fully UK priced edition - no overprinting or US price. My copy is also printed in Canada not the USA. I did wonder about about this one but it does see to be be a distinct printing. The information on the copyright page is contradictory though as it says printed in Canada but does not give the later date for that printing... Prof beard 16:28, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
Is the publisher given as Ballantine Books, New York? Mhhutchins 16:52, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
Yes. But as I said the back cover has UK, Australia, New Zealand and South Africa prices and has "printed in Canada" on the copyright page. Happy to go with what you think best? Prof beard 16:59, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
One last question before approval: is the ISBN stated or derived? Mhhutchins 17:14, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
it has 345-02001-4 on the back cover, so an SBN rather than an ISBN ? Prof beard 17:17, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
If the ISBN is derived from an SBN, it should be noted (giving the location which is normally on the copyright page as well.) I'll accept the submission and ask that you add further notes, giving the various prices, the ISBN, etc. Thanks. Mhhutchins 17:21, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
Ok will do - the derived ISBN came across with the cloning, so I left it as was. Would normally mention it. Prof beard 17:25, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
The cloning function allows you to create the new publication record and change any field that doesn't match, including adding/amending notes. Thanks. Mhhutchins 17:46, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
I realise that, and normally changes things - in this case I was "slothful" over the ISBN - will be more vigilant :). Prof beard 17:48, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

A Voyage to Arcturus

If this was published by Ballantine Books, London, the publisher should be given as "Ballantine Books (UK)". (That's why I asked above if the edition of The Worm Ourobouros was published by Ballantine Books, New York.) Thanks. Mhhutchins

ok - will correct, thanks Prof beard 19:08, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

Lilith

I'm holding a submission to update this record, changing the date, removing the publication series, and adding a price. Are you certain you have the same edition/printing and mean to update it, or did you intend on cloning the current record to create a new one? Mhhutchins 19:13, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

the original record stated it was of the UK reprint of the US edition, which is what I've entered the details of. The original entry is based entirely on the WorldCat entry which is clearly deficient. It seemed to me that either I created a new record and edited the original to refer to the us version, or edited the original to be correct for the uk reprint - I chose the latter. Does that seem right? Prof beard 19:32, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
That's OK, I'll accept the submission. (I only questioned it because the changes were so drastic.) How is the publisher given in the book? And is there no mention of "Ballantine Adult Fantasy" at all? Mhhutchins 20:14, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
the publisher is Ballentine books Ltd with sales and distribution by Pan. No explicit mention of Ballentine Adult Fantasy except in an advertisement for "Other adult fantasy titles available from Ballantine Books". It's almost as if someone made a decision to expunge the series from the UK edition Prof beard 21:21, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

Nebula #21

Hello, I've approved your edit but you state in your notes that Brunner's story is in fact titled _Treason_. In this case, you should enter the short story under its correct title (in the usual three step approach : 1) add correctly-titled story, 2) remove "bad" titled item, 3) merge the new text with its canonical title (the longer one in this case). The interior art's title should also be changed. Hauck 14:19, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks - exactly the response I was hoping for! I was wondering how to deal with that... Will do it Prof beard 14:27, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

Importing a single work

Re this record: It's better to just add the single content at the time the publication record is created and then merge it with the existing title once the submission is accepted. Two submissions. Importing a single title from a publication with several content records is going to require an additional submission to remove the unwanted title records. In the meantime, someone looking at any of those titles are going to think they're in the publication. And you increase the odds of forgetting to do the last submission, and then having a record filled with errors. Thanks. Mhhutchins 18:59, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks - I did wonder if that would be better - noted Prof beard 19:01, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

Cover images of non-genre magazines

It is current ISFDB standard to only link to covers of non-genre magazines which illustrate the spec-fic content. I've rejected the submission to add a cover image to this record. Feel free to open a new discussion over the practice on the Rules 7 Standards page. Mhhutchins 18:20, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks - I must confess I hadn't picked up on this - that magazine is probably the only non-genre magazine I possess with sf content, so it probably won't impact on me again. I think I would be inclined to have covers regardless of cover story myself, on the grounds it would aid collectors searching for a magazine containing a particular sf story. I might put this view forward this as you suggest, but I don't feel strongly about it to be honest Prof beard 18:37, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Science Fantasy, v 6 #17, 1956

Just a note that after approving your changes to Science Fantasy, v 6 #17, 1956 I changed Quinn's "To Touch the Stars" (p. 110) from SHORTFICTION to INTERIORART and added "[2]" to the title. Hopefully it matches your intent :) Ahasuerus 03:02, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

thanks - I realised I'd slipped up as I clicked "submit" and was going to correct it today Prof beard 08:33, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

Venture 1964-01

Hello, I've approved your submission result here with change from Edotor to Editor but please check if your copy is not the same as this other one. Hauck 10:38, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

Hi! That's really weird - I searched and searched for that and couldn't find it. Now when I search it pops up first try! Yes it is the same - I'll delete mine Prof beard 10:45, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

"Nightmare with Zeppelins"

I had merged the two versions of "Nightmare with Zeppelins", which made your latest submission unapprovable because the 1960-01-00 version of the title no longer existed. Could you please double check that Galaxy Science Fiction (UK), #77 January 1960 still looks OK? Ahasuerus 20:35, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

Amazing Stories UK #1

If the date (month and/or year) of this issue isn't given in the issue, it shouldn't be given in the title field. It's OK to give the date in the date field if you have a secondary source (as you noted). Mhhutchins 23:30, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

Same situation with this record, this record, and this record. If you can remember any more that may have been entered this way, please make the corrections. Thanks. Mhhutchins 23:32, 27 October 2013 (UTC)


Thanks for the advice - will take note and check as requested Prof beard 08:23, 28 October 2013 (UTC)

Volume numbering in title field

When entering the volume/issue data in a magazine's title field, please separate the volume from the issue number, e.g. "v1 #1" instead of "v1#1". Thanks. Mhhutchins 15:13, 29 October 2013 (UTC)


Will do. Thanks Prof beard 15:15, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

"Based on" cover art

Re this record: If a work of cover art has been "repainted" (this happens often with European and Canadian reprints of US periodicals), you should not credit the original artist in the Artist1 field, but record the information in the Note field. Thanks. Mhhutchins 15:17, 29 October 2013 (UTC)


Thanks! NotedProf beard 15:18, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

Vision of Tomorrow #6, March 1970

In your sub (which I've put on hold), you propose to add a SHORTFICTION item titled _Full-Five_ by Eddie Jones, can you confirm ? (It will be the first piece of fiction by this artist). Thanks Hauck 14:59, 30 October 2013 (UTC)


Sorry - should be interior art or course :) If you approve the sub, I'll edit it straight awayProf beard 15:21, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
Done. Hauck 15:49, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
edit submitted Prof beard 15:51, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Something Else #2

A few problems with the update to this record.

  • The titles of generically-titled works, like editorials and columns (such as "Editorial" and "Short Reviews"), must be disambiguated by adding the name of the publication parenthetically.
  • The review of the work by Delany misspells his name.
  • Are the works by Ken Reid speculative fiction? (He's not in the database.)
  • Are the titles on pages 28 and 32 correctly entered?

Thanks. Mhhutchins 02:47, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for reminding me - I did miss this. I've disambiguated the titles and corrected the typo and titles. (I obviously wasn't on form when I did those!) The "Fudge" works by Ken Reid appear to be juvenile speculative fiction, but may well be, in essence, graphical works. The review isn't the clearest! Happy to delete these if that's best.Prof beard 10:40, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
We don't delete them per se. A review of a work which is otherwise not eligible for the database (such as a nongenre work or graphic novel by a nongenre author, films recording, play, etc.) is entered as ESSAY. That would have to be this case because research has shown these are reprinted comic strips. One record of ESSAY type for both would be fine, titled "Review of the Fudge comic strips by Ken Reid", with an uncredited author. I'm still not sure about the pieces on pages 28 and 32, except that maybe your shifted "e" isn't working! :) Mhhutchins 19:15, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
I think those are sorted now - funny about the "E"s - can't explain that at all... Will delete the fudge review entries once this is approvedProf beard 20:24, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Science Fiction Studies, July 1976

I'm holding your submission to add a record for this issue to the db. Are you certain it was published by Gregg Press (who published facsimile reprints for libraries)? According to most sources it was published by Indiana State University. Mhhutchins 03:05, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for this, on careful examination, I have misread the (considerable) text on the copyright page - you are right - it is Indiana State U (but there was a reference to Gregg press in a different context, which I mistakenly picked up as in was in a larger font!) I'll correct it if you approved the submissionProf beard 10:17, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

Brunner's 'The Economics of SF'

I've had to reject the edit to make a variant to this essay. The correct edit would be a Title Merge with the later appearance of the same essay, as there is no variation in the title (nor is it appearing in a different language). Go to Brunner's bibliography page, then under Editing Tools click on 'Check for Duplicate Titles'. You'll see all possible candidates for merging and 'The Economics of SF' will be there. Click on both tick boxes for the title then 'Merge Selected Records'. When merging titles, it's ALWAYS worth checking if the merge is a correct edit by double-checking on both titles you're planning to merge. Thanks. PeteYoung 18:51, 31 October 2013 (UTC)


thanks for this - I had trouble find the right help for that process Prof beard 18:52, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

Numbering interiorart records

Only use the numbering system for titling INTERIORART records if they illustrate the same work (fiction or essay). The three pieces titled "Grumblings" in this record do not seem to illustrate anything other than themselves. Or is there a record missing for a work which they illustrate? Mhhutchins 22:28, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

The Grumblings section is the letters section - I was unsure how this should be referenced - I recorded the major letters as indicated in the help, but was unclear how the whole section should be referenced - if you could guide me on that, I'll add it in as a another edit.Prof beard 23:05, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
Columns (like letter sections) can be given a content record titled "Name of Column (Title of the periodical including the date)". So in this case, create a content record titled "Grumblings (Yandro, #173 July 1967)" and giving "various" as the author, unless the column is credited to the editor(s) who provides responses to each of the letters. The illustrations should be titled exactly the same as the work they illustrate, i.e. the column, and there is no need to add a number unless the artist has a second, or third, etc piece in the same issue. That is not the case in this issue, since all three are by three different artists. Mhhutchins 23:29, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

Yandro #173

The review of the Ace Double by Jack Vance and Tony Russell Wayman in this record should be entered as two separate reviews, unless the reviewer only mentions one of the titles. Be sure to give the full name of the author (Tony Russell Wayman) even if the reviewer doesn't. Once you've added these two review records, you'll have to remove and delete the current one. Thanks. Mhhutchins 05:06, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

Your submission to disambiguate the titles in this issue deletes the link to this cover image. Is that deliberate or a mistake? I will restore it if it's a mistake -- no need to do anything with the submission. Thanks. --MartyD 12:54, 3 November 2013 (UTC)


Yes it is a mistake, thanks for spotting it! Prof beard 13:44, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
All set. --MartyD 11:19, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
Thanks! Prof beard 11:21, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Something Else #2 (redux)

Perhaps you missed my posting concerning this record? Mhhutchins 04:58, 2 November 2013 (UTC)


See aboveProf beard 10:43, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

World of Ptaavs

Cover artist for [this] edition is Peter Jones. Just entered a record for the first '78 [Futura] printing with a full-cover [image] that shows Jones' initials on the back. Don't know if the second '78 printing has a different back cover or not ... --~ Bill, Bluesman 02:19, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! The initials are are on the back cover of my copy too - must do these things in brighter light! :) 09:59, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Plague Ship

Since the edition used for [this] record is printed in Australia, the record should have the Australian price in the field, not the UK one as it is a separate edition. I have the UK printing and will create another record for it. --~ Bill, Bluesman 02:33, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Cheers Bill - have sorted that. Prof Prof beard 09:53, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Tome of Fire

I accepted the submission to add the contents to this record. It would have been easier for both of us if you'd imported the contents from this record. You would have avoided having to enter a record for each story, and I would not have had to merge all of the newly created records with the ones in the database. A question: can you confirm the spelling of the story on page 11? In the other collection it is spelled "Vulkan's Shield", but it's not been verified. Thanks for looking. Mhhutchins 15:09, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

"Data from Amazon.UK" vs "Primary Verification"

I've noticed your last few submissions for primary verified records state "Data from Amazon UK", which conflicts with the Primary Verification. Ordinarily the data would be from the book itself, and you would only note any fields which contain data from a secondary source. Mhhutchins 15:13, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks- so I should say "Month etc" from Amazon rather than date? Prof beard 15:20, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
You're not saying "Date", you're saying "Data". That may be the problem. Mhhutchins 15:24, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
oh dear! Typo! (Then cut and pasted to compound the felony) Will correct - sorry!
I've been putting a quote of the print year (all that the book provided) in the notes. I'll edit them to say "month" or "month and day" from amazon as appropriate? Prof beard 15:20, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
Whatever data you receive from a secondary source should be noted, whether it be the day, month or year. Mhhutchins 15:24, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Space Hulk The Novel

This record was accepted, but you failed to create a content record for this CHAPTERBOOK-typed publication. Also, "The Novel" is a subtitle (in some opinions), and if you choose to record it in the title field (most editors don't), it should be offset with a colon, e.g. Space Hulk: The Novel. Thanks. Mhhutchins 15:16, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

noted - will sort that out - I've done two other chapterbooks as well so I'll do the same to them Prof beard 15:21, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Blood Gorgons

There are two mutually exclusive statements of publishing date in Blood Gorgons.

I've also seen that you seem to prefer the statements of the respective publishing date given by amazon over other sources (such as Locus). There's not much harm done if you (as in the case I've seen) just put a distinctive day into the field. In my opinion, amazon should not be given preference above other sources (and especially not above statements in a given publication): I do suspect that selling is here the main emphasis, not giving bibliographical information per se. And we really don't know who is entering the data; he or she may pick the day of entering the data, for example. Thanks for reading so far, Stonecreek 14:55, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

Hi = thanks for spotting the anomaly - it was a typo and I've submitted a correction. I don't "prefer" Amazon, I've used it in the main where there is additional (month and/or day) information. If I've removed any links to Locus, this was over-enthusiastic editing and I'll take note not to in future. Prof Prof beard 15:13, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for the correction, but the statement is still doubled. You may want to delete the surplus one. And with amazon: We should have a source for a publishing date, and we should refer to amazon if we have no other source. But I see some possible trapping involved if we do think this source is reliable per se (obviously, because I thought so only some months ago), knowing that reliabity for bibliographic data doesn't come first for online sellers: they certainly aren't against it, but the person who enters the data may be under time constraints. I do think that they nowadays will use the data supplied by publishers, but we can't be sure of this and it possibly won't be the case for every publisher. I also do think that month of publication is sufficient, if we have a reliable source. Stonecreek 15:48, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
What came to my mind just a few minutes ago, is that for first publications the date for the title (and also for the cover art) has also to be changed, to have them fitting. This is a lot of work for a (possibly) fine-tuning, I think. Stonecreek 16:00, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
I think I've sorted that now (had a bunch of distractions - not helpful!). Re Amazon - I agree with you - I've been taking the view that if that is all there is, use it, but will be happy to follow any consensus view? Prof beard 16:06, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

Planetkill

Is it really printed in 2006 for Planetkill, published in 2008? Stonecreek 15:55, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

Corrected - had someone at the door and got distracted - sorry!Prof beard 15:58, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
Yes, that sort of nuisance does happen; no harm done. Stonecreek 16:33, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

Yandro #174

Who is the author credited with the piece on page 8 of this publication? It currently gives a date in the author field. Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 04:21, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Corrected - thanksProf beard 15:26, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

HTML problem

I believe you may be using a template for notes with incorrect HTML. I've fixed 8 records which you primary verified that had very similar notes, but one of the lines (the one that starts "First printing...") begins with an angle bracket "<" but is missing the remaining "BR>". Please correct this if you continue to use this template. Thanks. Mhhutchins 04:34, 8 November 2013 (UTC)


Many apologies - not a template but a poor piece of cutting with multiple pastes Prof beard 15:23, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Ad Astra and "He Who Fights"

I have on hold your submission that adds disambiguation to one of the content titles and that changes "He Who Fights: Part One" to "He Who Fights (Part 1 of 2)". No problem with either of those, but that submission also changes the publication's title field to "He Who Fights (Part 1 of 2)" from "Ad Astra, v3 #15". Clearly not right (correct?), but I'm wondering if it's something you might have done by accident or if the submission software somehow did the wrong thing. What do you think? Thanks. --MartyD 16:20, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

Hmmmm - all I did was edit the entry in Ad Astra v3 #15 from "Part One" to (Part 1 of 2) - I did this because I acquired Ad Astra #16 which contains He Who Fights (Part 2 of 2) and I thought that would be the best thing to keep the story titles meaningful? I didn't try and change the publications title at al! Hope this helps. ProfProf beard 16:30, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
Ok, thanks. I am going to leave it on hold for Ahasuerus to take a look at. When he's done, I will accept it and fix it. --MartyD 16:57, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
Thanks - I'm pretty sure it is as I say - but given my obvious attack of finger trouble today, anything is possible :) Prof beard 17:23, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

The Jupiter Theft author in Ad Astra review

In Ad Astra v2 #2, the spelling of the author of The Jupiter Theft should be "Moffitt", not "Moffit". I have corrected it and linked the review. If the publication misspells it, add a note citing the discrepancy (for reviews, we only use canonical names or existing matching pseudonyms in the review record and don't create additional author entries for misspellings or natural name variations, relegating that info to the notes). Thanks. --MartyD 16:57, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

p.s. While mentioning reviews in this pub.... Is there any further info in the review about Laumer's The Ultimate Man? We don't have a record of it, and I can't find it. I find one sketchy reference to a 1987 Baen edition, but only on Biblio.com and then citing a bookseller. Nothing at all for a 1979 / 1980 edition. --MartyD 16:57, 10 November 2013 (UTC)


Both were typos - I submitted a correction which I guess you haven't seen yet - the Laumer title is "The Ultimax Man" - my fingers seem to be playing up today :) sorry Prof beard 17:18, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

Review in Ad Astra v2 #1

I changed "The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galxy" to "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" in Ad Astra v2 #1 and linked it to that title. If either of those was not a typo, again record the discrepancy in the notes. Thanks. --MartyD 17:07, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

I'd spotted I'd made a typo too late! Many thanks. ProfProf beard 17:21, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

"Driftglass" review in Ad Astra v2 #3

I changed the author's name from "Samual R. Delany" to "Samuel R. Delany" in your Ad Astra v2 #3 and linked it to the collection of the same title. Again, if it wasn't a typo, record the discrepancy in the notes. I see he also has a piece of short fiction by that title, so if it's not a review of the collection, link the review to the other title. Thanks. --MartyD 17:15, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

No it was the collection being reviewed - very sorry about my attack of typos !!! Prof beard 17:20, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

Ad Astra, V3 #13

Can you confirm the spelling of the author credit for the story on page 21 of this issue? (There is an author Garry Kilworth. Note the two "r"s in his first name.) Also, are you certain that the volume numbering should be the way to go in titling the issues of this periodical? Looking at the cover images you've provided, it appears that only the issue number is given. And one last thing, can you confirm the volume numbering in the title field of this issue? It doesn't align with the other issues. Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 17:56, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

Hi. Yes it is misspelled in the publication - on checking it IS the Garry K - I' ll correct in the listing and add a note about the misspelling? Prof beard 18:11, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
I accepted the submission to change this before I read your response. As has been pointed out, and made clear throughout all of the ISFDB help pages, it is the standard to record credits as presented in the publication. If the story is credited to "Gary Kilworth" on page 21 (as I originally asked), then it should be entered as "Gary Kilworth" in the ISFDB record of this publication. We then create a variant record so that it is correctly attributed to the author's canonical name. If this is the case, I'll need to fix it, because I've already merged it with the title record under the author's canonical name, and it will take several submissions to clean it. So again, how is the author credited on page 21? Thanks. Mhhutchins 18:44, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
the author Kilworth is credited as "Gary" on p21 - sorry about the change, but I thought I'd had conflicting guidance from moderators on this in the past - in hindsight I'm wrong though - In future I'll stick to quoting the publication verbatim. Thanks Prof beard 19:05, 10 November 2013 (UTC)


The issue numbering for Ad Astra is all over the place - the issue is correctly cited, but it does indeed not align - if you look here on GC you will see what I mean - http://www.philsp.com/mags/sf_a.html#ad_astra That list is reflected in the printed publications. Prof beard 18:11, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
Since the volume numbering of the periodical is incorrect, I would suggest using only the issue number given in the issue. Is "Issue Fourteen" given in the interior in either the publisher's colophon or the contents page? In order to make the titles of all issues consistent, I would suggest that only the issue number be given in them as well. When publications which give a combination of dating, the order of preference should be 1) month/year ("January 2013"), 2) issue number ("Issue 14"), and 3) volume numbering ("Vol. 21, No. 2"). The last should only be used if neither of the first two are present in the publication. We only use secondary sources (like Galactic Central or Locus) for the date field, if the date is not present in the publication. When we have the publication in hand, we do not use secondary sources for the title field, which follows the ISFDB standard of entering data as given in the publication. Thanks. Mhhutchins 18:44, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
the publications have "Issue 14" etc on the outside cover only - that is the only consistent thing about them. The contents list etc have no date of any sort. The v2 #3 etc are what is given in the contents pages and are completely inconsistent (the GC list merely gives the content page versions and the front cover numbering). Shall I change all the issues entries to reflect front cover numbering?Prof beard 19:02, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
I would suggest that because of the inconsistency, the title fields should just give just the issue number, i.e. "Ad Astra, Issue Thirteen". Also, please check the HTML in the Note field of this record, which has a display problem. Thanks. Mhhutchins 05:50, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
OK Thanks - will do that. Have sorted the other display problem too.Prof beard 12:07, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

Name check in Ad Astra, V2 #1

Can you confirm the author credit given on page 25 of this publication? Is it spelled "Ricahrd Dell"? Thanks for looking. Mhhutchins 18:46, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks - it's a typo - I've submitted a correction. I must apologise, I've suffered an attack of typos today, despite thinking I'd checked things Prof beard 19:09, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

The Masque of Vyle

Please confirm the publisher given in this record. Thanks. Mhhutchins 15:15, 11 November 2013 (UTC)


Done - thanksProf beard 15:20, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

Links in pub/title notes

Apologies if you already know this. For your Startling Stories, [January] 1954 (UK): If you want to put a clickable link in publication or title (or other database record) notes, you cannot use the Wiki-style:
[http://www.sfcovers.net/mainnav.htm Visco]
but must use HTML:
<a href="http://www.sfcovers.net/mainnav.htm">Visco</a>
instead. More details at Help:Using_HTML_in_Note_Fields. If you didn't want to put a clickable link in the notes, then don't mind me. --MartyD 12:13, 5 December 2013 (UTC)


Yes I did know that, but forgot to edit the note! Will do that thanks! Prof beard 12:19, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

Startling Stories, [January] 1954 (UK)

I've approved your edit for this magazine but the value of the "image" field was unusable please see the result. Can you resubmit your link ? (I suppose it's for this image). Thanks. Hauck 12:50, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks I've re-uploaded the scan and resubmitted Prof beard 12:56, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

The Soul of the Robot

Found precise pub date for your verified here. Hauck 15:58, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

Excellent! ThanksProf beard 15:09, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Survival world

Hello, I've approved your submission for this pub as I think that images hosted by us are better than amazon ones, but in this case I wonder about the poor state of the book. Perhaps was it better to copy amazon's on your computer image and upload it instead. I've also seen that you changed some amazon scan, please don't forget to notify (according to their preferences) all the PVs and not only PV1 (in my case you can consider me informed).Hauck 15:45, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for this - in that case, I think your advice is sound and I'll do that. Must confess, I have been informing PV1 mainly - will correct this in future.Prof beard 14:08, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Replacing the cover of More Women of Wonder

Hello, I had to reject your submission. You gave the URL for the publication with no. 178177, not the one for the uploaded cover. Thanks, Stonecreek 15:08, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

Ooops - will correct thanksProf beard 15:13, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

John Brunner's Round Trip

You verified this pub which contains Round Trip and this pub which contains The Round Trip. Are these the same story? If so, the second should be variented to the first. If not, it would be good to add a note to the title records indicating that. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 13:08, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! I hadn't spotted that - the result of not PV1-ing either of them and focusing too much on content and page numbers and the expense of detail! They are the same. Will create variant as suggested Prof Prof beard 13:17, 15 December 2013 (UTC)

Soul Drinker

Hello, don't you think that the title of thid pub should be shortened to just _Soul Drinker_ ?. Hauck 13:34, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

I agree - that was the entry when I verified it, but I'll change itProf beard 18:52, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Disambiguating Robert Mason

1. Happy Christmas! 2. We had a bunch of unverified artist records listed under the bibliography for Robert Mason, the author and Vietnam helicopter pilot, that needed disambiguating to Robert Mason (artist), the British illustrator. The only remaining record is for your verified pub Interzone: The 1st Anthology. Thanks. PeteYoung 10:54, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi. - I'm not sure what you want/ you need me to do? The disambiguation is fine with me! Prof beard 20:44, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
I wasn't about to change the field in a record verified by others, and simply needed to suggest to the verifiers that it needed changing. Hauck has done it, so no worries. Back to the mince pies… ;) PeteYoung 21:40, 25 December 2013 (UTC)

Walter M. Miller

If this book was published as by "Walter M. Miller", the pub record was entered under the wrong title record. Also, all of the stories would have to be changed to credit the penname (unless the stories have individual author credit). This is going to take several submissions to accomplish. If you want me to do it, I will, or I go step you through the process. Also, did the 1973 reprint credit the author without "Jr."? Thanks. Mhhutchins 17:57, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

The 1968 Panther was, as I noted, published with "Walter M. Miller" on both the cover and title page, with the "Jr" only appearing on the copyright page. Happy to do the required changes if you will describe the steps involved. Good point about the reprint - I should have picked this up (I wasn't pv1 for the reprint and may have overlooked it because the pv1 was much more experienced) but that is the same as the 1968 - ie it has Walter M. Miller on cover and title page and "copyright Walter M. Miller Jr" on the copyright pageProf beard 19:08, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
you can see the wording on the reprint cover scan, by the way.Prof beard 19:11, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
I wasn't doubting the credit that you gave on the record, only that it was entered under a title record credited to "Walter M. Miller, Jr.". If a book is published under a name different from the canonical name (title page credit of course, front cover credit is irrelevant), it has to be varianted to the canonical name. Here are the steps to make corrections to the records:
  1. Correct the credit in the 1973 reprint's author field. (Leave a note on the other primary verifier's talk page.)
  2. Use the "Unmerge Titles" function to remove both the 1968 and 1973 editions of these books from the parent title record.
  3. Use the Remove Titles From This Pub" function to remove all contents from both pub records. (Two separate submissions.)
  4. Update the 1968 record to add the content records, crediting "Walter M. Miller" with each of the stories.
  5. Once the above submission is accepted, use the "Import Content" function to copy the contents from the 1968 record to the 1973 record.
  6. Merge the two newly-created title records for A View from the Stars credited to "Walter M. Miller".
  7. Variant this title record (credited to "Miller") to the one credited to "Miller, Jr.".
  8. Variant each story's title record credited to "Miller" to its counterpart credited to "Miller, Jr." (Nine separate submissions.)
Mhhutchins 19:47, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
thanks! I'm fairly sure I follow that... I'll start doing it tomorrow morning when I'm fresh :). Will post here if I need to ask for any follow-up adviceProf beard 20:17, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
Hi - I've done steps 1) and 2) so far. A question re step 4) - when added the content do I give the stories the date of the publication of the 1968 edition? Prof beard 10:13, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
I approved the pub edit (step 1)), but put the other edits on hold for Michael to review. I believe there is a bug when you try to unmerge publications from these title records. Step 2) was meant for the collection's title record, which Michael linked to.
Re your question about step 4), when you add contents, leave the date field blank. The date of the publication of the 1968 edition is added automatically. Please try step 2) again first. Thanks, --Willem H. 11:08, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
I think Ive submitted step 2) correctly now - shall I cancel the others or leave them for Michael? Prof beard 11:23, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
Can you leave the edits for now? I'm not really sure the bug still exists. The remove and then add titles method is better anyway. Step 2) approved. Thanks, --Willem H. 11:28, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
OK thanks - will carry on then Prof beard 11:32, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
I should have known. The last edits emptied the ones on hold. You can cancel them now, nothing to see anymore. --Willem H. 11:49, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

[unindent] Step 4 submission accepted. Please proceed. (Willem, yes, there once was a bug when "unmerging" a pub from one of its content title records. Although I think it's been fixed, I don't do it and advice editors to use the "Remove Titles from This Pub" function which accomplishes the same thing cleanly. As you say, the advice I gave here was to unmerge a pub record from its title record. I believe the function is incorrectly titled as it should be "Unmerge Publication Records from This Title" instead of "Unmerge Titles". I'd mentioned this before, but it never got much traction in discussion. Maybe one day it will be corrected. Thanks.) Mhhutchins 16:37, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

Looking at the list of cancelled/rejected submissions I see that Prof Beard attempted something which wasn't one of the steps that I outlined above, i.e. "unmerging" pub records from content title records, one submission for each of contents. Even if this method works, and I'm not sure if it does or not, the number of submissions and moderations make it an unwise choice. Thanks Willem for catching them. Mhhutchins 17:00, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

indeed - thanks Willem - not having unmerged things before, I went for what was obviously a long-winded approach - I've learnt now :) Prof beard 17:18, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
Submissions for Step 8 accepted, except for the first two which varianted to new records with the same author credit. I had to reject them. Please try again. Thanks. Mhhutchins 17:56, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
thanks - have tried again... Prof beard 18:01, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
Sorry. They weren't correct. I've given you the correct title record to variant to in the reject notices of each. Mhhutchins 18:03, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
thanks - oddly, a couple of the submissions flagged up that I was trying to make a variant of variant, but one of these last two didn't. It's been a good learning experience Prof beard 18:09, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
The flags appeared because you can only create a variant to the parent record. (Three of the stories were retitled from their original publication appearance.) If you try to make a variant to a title record which is itself a variant of another record, you'll get the warning. The one that didn't get a flag ("The Will") was because it kept the same name. Everything now looks good. Let me know if you need any further assistance with unmerging and varianting records. Thanks. Mhhutchins 19:03, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks - that makes sense! Prof beard 19:24, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

Richard Davis (Ed.) - Space 1 (pb)

Hi, I refer to here which you recently verified as "Primary 3". The Primary 1 & Primary 2 verifiers are no longer active, so you are now the authority for this publication! :-))) . I have some changes that I'd like to make with your agreement:

First the easy one: Would you please check the Canadian price on the back of your copy. Mine has $1.98, not $1.95 (my copy doesn't have anything about different printings, but publishers have been known to change things without changing the printing details!).

The other changes I'd like to make are:

My copy has the author of "Teddysaurs" to be James Hamilton-Paterson (not J. Hamilton-Patterson [with 2 ts] put in as a variant of James Hamilton-Patterson [again with 2 ts]). What does your copy have? (normally I'd add "above the story itself", but my copy only has the author in the TOC - rather unusually)

The trickiest change is: My copy has the 2nd last story to be "Neighbour" by Clifford Simak. This is a variant of ("Neighbor" by Clifford D. Simak), not ("Neighbor" by Clifford D. Simak). (I suspect it slipped through in the early days of ISFDB when we were learning the ways to do things.) What does your copy have?

I have both this pb and the earlier hc. The hc's only verifier is no longer active, so, being a moderator, I've already made the changes to the stories on the hc - here. I'm not sure how much you've picked up on "changing" story titles & authors in anthologies or collections, and on variant titles. (Being in Australia, when I'm working on ISFDB, most other editors aren't, so I don't do much moderating of other editor's submissions.) Let me know if I need to explain more. --clarkmci / j_clark 08:38, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi! I've checked and you are right about the Canadian price - well spotted! Ditto - I've have "Hamilton-Paterson" too. (And authors on contents page only) Your are right about "Neighbour" too (I probably just assumed it was right - being spelled correctly from my point of view as a Brit :) ). Very grateful for this - I must have had an off day when I PV'ed this one! Whilst I could do the changes myself, I'm more than happy for you to do them if you are willing. Prof Prof beard 10:42, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
Was quicker for me to do it with all the Remove Titles, Find Duplicates, and Make Variants required. Changes done. Thanks for your prompt reply. --clarkmci / j_clark 23:03, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Legends / Victories of the Space Marines

I just noticed that the title stated on the cover differs from the publication's title as entered here. In these cases it's better to note the reason (for example: 'title as stated on title page differs from cover'). Thanks, Christian Stonecreek 14:17, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

Actually - it was the wrong cover! Corrected now :) Prof beard 14:19, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
Oh, well, things such as that do happen! Stonecreek 15:15, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
They certainly do - I was in the process of correcting it when your first message arrived, so I'm only "a bit" embarrassed :) Prof beard 15:17, 18 January 2014 (UTC)

Protectorate by Farren

I've accepted a submission from a non-verifying editor which gives the month of publication for this record, based on data from Locus1. Thanks. Mhhutchins 20:20, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Roadside Picnic

I've added the SF Masterworks series no. "68" that was missing from the record for your verified pub. Thanks. PeteYoung 23:28, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! Prof beard 10:08, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Thieves' World

Hi - I noticed you verified this pub, but you didn't mention a two page uncredited piece called "A Few Remarks by Furtwan Coinpinch, Merchant", which appears just before "Shadowspawn" in my US edition, and which is not listed in the contents page. Could you check to see if it's in your edition? Thanks. Mike Christie (talk) 15:40, 8 February 2014 (UTC)


Yes Mike, it is there - not listed in the contents either. I'll add it, thanks Prof beard 10:21, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

Summer 1990 issue of Weird Tales

I added navigation links and letters by authors already in the database to the Summer 1990 issue of Weird Tales. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 16:08, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

I also made similar edits to the Spring 1992 issue. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 19:37, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
And the Summer 1993 issue. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 21:48, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

The Einstein Intersection

I've added overseas prices to the note for our verified pub. Thanks. PeteYoung 06:43, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! Prof beard 10:40, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

West of the Sun

I've added overseas prices to the note for our verified pub. Thanks. PeteYoung 16:51, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

Mission to Universe

Replaced the amazon scan and identified the artist from initials on the cover for [this] Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 23:09, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

Cheers Bill Prof beard 12:09, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

More Tales of Unease

Hi. I have added overseas prices to the note for your verified pub. Thanks. Linguist 10:55, 26 February 2014 (UTC).

Thanks! Prof Prof beard 12:09, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

Brother Berserker

Found initials on the back cover of [this], about half way up in the dark brown of the rocks so amended the notes slightly. Also a better scan. Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 20:46, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

Follow-up when creating pseudonyms

When you make one author into a pseudonym of another, it is important to follow this up be creating variants for the pseudonymously published titles. Otherwise, the title remains on the pseudonym's page and will not be visible on the canonical author's page. I varianted the story by S. P. Cawkwell to Sarah Cawkwell. You will see now that the story is no longer on the pseudonym's page, but on the canonical author's page. Thanks. Mhhutchins 04:24, 2 March 2014 (UTC)


Thanks! Actually, I hadn't forgotten - I was waiting for the pseudonym to be approved and just logged in to do the variant :) But, your reminder is still welcomed - I do forget stuff sometimes! Prof beard 11:50, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Scars by Chris Wraight

A quick question about you verified edition of Scars. The series that it belongs to, The Horus Heresy, is a regular series rather than a "publication series" (the latter are used to group publications like Ace Doubles or Gollancz Masterworks books, which may not be otherwise related), so I have adjusted the series information accordingly. However, I wonder about "#11905", which you entered in the "Publication Series Number" field. Could you please clarify where this number is found? TIA! Ahasuerus 15:52, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for that - clear now. I got the #11905 from here: http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?11905 "ISFDB Series Record # 11905" Prof beard 16:59, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
Oh, I see! That's the series record number, which is the same as the digits to the right of the question mark in the URL :-) Record numbers are used when performing certain operations, e.g. importing and exporting Content items from one publication to another (see Help:Screen:ImportContent and Help:Screen:ExportContent) or creating variants (see Help:Screen:MakeVariant). Ahasuerus 19:38, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
Thanks - I'd used record numbers for import/export and variants and though it would work here - you live and learn :) Prof beard 10:18, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Fleet: Breakthrough

There is a signature on the cover of [this]. On the shoulder of the 'cat' is Gurney. It's visible in the image attached to the record. --~ Bill, Bluesman 22:34, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Snares & Delusions

Please see Snares & Delusions and Snares and Delusions. All of the verified publications containing these two titles have been verified by you. Would you double check the "and" vs. "&" and variant the two records if correct? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 00:44, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Necessary changes submitted Thanks Prof beard 11:32, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Locus1 verification

For [this] collection the verification should be from Contento, the Locus Index only starts in 1984. I also added a link to the source for the 1965 date. Whether that's enough to change the date [even the second printing has 1964 for the first] is up to the various Verifiers. I'll leave a note on Willem's/Hauck's pages. Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 21:58, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

I can't properly assess the fiability of the web source. Most of the printed bibliographies for the individual authors that I've consulted (the GCP series, Covell on Mcintosh, etc.) give a 1964 date. Hauck 08:06, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
The statement in the publication itself prevails. I rephrased the note, but the publication date should not be changed. --Willem H. 09:38, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
The Locus verification looks like a slip of the mouse from me - sorry - it is indeed listed in Contento and I intended to add that verification originally Prof beard 10:34, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Best SF Stories from New Worlds 3

Hello. I have added overseas prices to the note for your verified pub, and replaced the Amazon image with a better cover scan. Thanks. Linguist 10:39, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Analog Two

Hi. My own copy of your verified is priced 5/-, not 3/6. It does seem to be the 1967 edition, though. Would the second price be a slip of the keyboard ? Thanks. Linguist 10:31, 30 March 2014 (UTC).

You are correct (As far as my copy goes) Mine is clearly stated as "Panther edition published 1967" but could we have a later printing ? Prof beard 09:25, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
I think I read somewhere on this site (where ?) that Panther books usually state reprints. IMHO, I think the 1967 Analog Two record started as a clone of Analog One, but the price wasn't corrected. Couldn't the difference in length (218 p. against 169) account for the difference in price ? Linguist 13:10, 31 March 2014 (UTC).
I've not read anything on here about it, but I have a lot of Panther books and it is true that reprints are normally stated. I'm unsure how we go forwards with this one! Prof beard 08:29, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

The Year's Best Science Fiction 3

Added note to your verified about ISBN number not appearing as such on book (created from serial number + Sphere prefix). Thanks. Linguist 14:21, 31 March 2014 (UTC).

The Year's Best Science Fiction No. 7

Added overseas prices to your verified. Thanks. Linguist 15:12, 31 March 2014 (UTC).

Twelve Wolves by Ben Counter

I added a content record to this CHAPTERBOOK publication record per ISFDB standards. Keep that in mind when adding any future CHAPTERBOOK-typed publications. Thanks. Mhhutchins 19:00, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

I was going to import that once the entry was approved as it had been published several times elsewhere. So, it wasn't a "forgotten" :) Is not that the easiest approach? Prof beard 10:29, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
With only one content record, neither method has an advantage over the other. Either way, it would have taken two submissions. Your method: 1) create contentless pub record, and 2) import content. My method: 1 create pub record with content, and 2) merge the content with the existing record. If there had been more than one content record which was already in the database, your method would save the data entry time. If you choose to use that method in the future, let the moderator handling the submission know that in the "Note to Moderator" field. And make a note to yourself that you need to go back and import the content. (Or stick around for it to be moderated. The queue wait is extremely short these days.) Your method also increases the chance that you'll forget to add the content if you have to wait longer than usual.
BTW, the submission adding that publication record was accepted (by another moderator) on March 31 at 8 am. My submission to add the content was made on April 1 at 2 pm (after discovering the record on a list of malformed chapterbook records). Under the circumstances, it would have been better to add the content at the time of the original submission. Either way, I appreciate your contributions to the database. Thank you. Mhhutchins 23:45, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the clarification :) I turned out to be busier than expected, hence the delay - c'est la vie Prof beard

Cover artist on The Flies of Memory

An editor proposes changing the cover artist credit on your 2-verified The Flies of Memory from Mike Posen (which is what Locus1 says) to Mick Posen, based on the back-cover credit. Would you double-check and see what your copy says? I am also checking with the primary verifier, but you're more active and are likely to see this sooner; if I get confirmation from either of you, I will accept the edit. Thanks. --MartyD 11:32, 5 April 2014 (UTC)


My copy has Mick rather than Mike on the back cover. I'm embarrassed I didn't spot that :( Prof beard 09:11, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. I accepted the change and adjusted the notes to remove the Locus1 source for the artist credit and to reflect Locus1's error. --MartyD 10:36, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Interior art for The Malacia Tapestry

In the process of editing the artist Tiepolo (and varianting his works) I came across this edition, of which I do think that it has the same set of artworks as in other editions of the novel, see here for an example. Since the primary verifier for your printing isn't active anymore, could you be so kind to take a look if this is indeed the case? Thanks, Stonecreek 06:36, 3 May 2014 (UTC)


You are indeed correct - I'll remove the existing entries and import the full list (and page number as per edition) from the edition you link to Prof beard 09:19, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

The Profit of Doom

Hi, I may have found the cover artist for The Profit of Doom: This page shows a cover with a signature 'Hardy'.--Dirk P Broer 23:36, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks - I've added a note that effect. There are a number of "Hardy" artists sadly. Prof beard 09:54, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

A Mirror for Observers

Added better cover scan to your verified. Thanks. Linguist 09:34, 12 May 2014 (UTC).

Thanks! Prof beard 09:47, 12 May 2014 (UTC)

Gollancz edition of The Gold at the Starbow's End

I have added the price (and an accompanying note that you may delete, if you just forgot to add it) to this.

You may have overlooked the question I posed three items above on the art in The Malacia Tapestry - that does happen from time to time to all of us :-( . Christian Stonecreek 13:41, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the note and price. I had overlooked the Malacia Tapestry question - will look into itProf beard 09:12, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

The Caves of Steel

Added better cover scan (better definition, no crease on cover) and a note (presence of Chris Foss's signature) to your verified. Thanks. Linguist 12:54, 17 May 2014 (UTC).

Thanks doing that Prof beard 09:31, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

Foundation

Added overseas prices to your verified; replaced the cover scan by a slightly less scuffed version, with correct dimensions. Thanks. Linguist 08:29, 25 May 2014 (UTC).

Foundation and Empire

Replaced cover scan of your verified (less scuffed, better definition). Thanks. Linguist 08:45, 25 May 2014 (UTC).

Thanks for both of these Prof beard 09:02, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

Armada Sci-Fi 3

Hi, re your verified publication here

I'd like to replace the catalogue ID with the ISBN, viz 0006910777 - from the back cover of my copy (then I'll put the catalogue number in the Notes). This means the links on the left of the page to Amazon, Worldcat, etc will work. I will also put the other prices in the Notes: Australia $1.25, New Zealand $1.40, Canada $1.25. What do you think? --clarkmci / j_clark 02:35, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Fine by me - thanks! Prof beard 09:38, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

Traveller in Black

Uploaded a new cover scan of your verified (correct dimension, better definition, no black frame). Thanks. Linguist 09:01, 2 June 2014 (UTC).

"New Worlds 10", by Hilary Bailey

Since the primary verifier for this book is no longer active, you are now the verifier to notify of changes to this record. The story "Mirror, Mirror on the Wall" is listed that way in the ToC, but is listed without the comma on the story title page. Our policy is to use the later, so I have dropped that comma from the title. Chavey 16:56, 6 June 2014 (UTC)


Noted - and thanks Prof beard 10:03, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

A Maze of Death

Uploaded a new cover scan of your verified (correct dimension, better definition) and added some notes. In particular, I indicated the presence of a number, “209.”, above the hand of the creature on the left, which might be some clue as to the identity of the artist, if such a practice is recurrent. I hunted for some more hidden details, but couldn't find any. Cheers. Linguist 09:21, 10 June 2014 (UTC).

Galactic Pot-Healer

Replaced the Amazon image by a new cover scan, and added some notes to your verified. Thanks. Linguist 19:43, 10 June 2014 (UTC).

Solar Lottery

Uploaded another cover scan (whole wraparound) of your verified, and added some notes (overseas prices). As far as page count is concerned, I would tend to enter 188, not 192, as the last four pages are unnumbered and devoted to advertising. How do you feel about it ? Linguist 09:45, 11 June 2014 (UTC).

Have made the suggested edit - thanks Prof beard 10:01, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

Cover art for Galactic Pot-Healer and A Maze of Death

The recent edits on your verified Galactic Pot Healer and A Maze of Death prompted me to contact who I suspected was the uncredited cover artist for both titles, Ian Miller. He confirms he did both covers. I've added the cover artist credit and a note to each. PeteYoung

Flow My Tears, the Policeman Said

Replaced the cover scan (better definition) and added some notes for your verified. Thanks. Linguist 09:58, 14 June 2014 (UTC).

The Penultimate Truth

Replaced the cover scan (better definition) and added some notes for this one. Thanks. Linguist 10:11, 14 June 2014 (UTC).

The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch

Same thing here. Furthermore, I think the publisher of this edition should be entered as “Triad Panther” and not just “Panther”, as this is the way it appears on the title page. And it would be consistent with the same entry for The Penultimate Truth. Thanks. Linguist 10:26, 14 June 2014 (UTC).

Have made the suggested edit - thanks Prof beard 09:59, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
Thanks ! Linguist 21:20, 16 June 2014 (UTC).

Martian Time-Slip

Replaced the cover scan (whole wraparound, fewer scuffs) and added some notes for your verified. Thanks. Linguist 21:20, 16 June 2014 (UTC).

Counter-Clock World

Added some notes and uploaded new cover scan for this one. Thanks. Linguist 21:49, 16 June 2014 (UTC).

VALIS

Ditto for this. Thanks. Linguist 10:34, 17 June 2014 (UTC).

Beyond Lies the Wub

Hello. I have added some notes to your verified, and will upload a new cover scan. A few things bother me about this pub : there is no source for the 1993 date (my copy, 3rd printing, only has “published by Grafton 1990”); and there is no “Foreword” by Steven Owen Godersky (I've just been through the whole book). I suppose that it comes from a clone of the 1987 Underwood-Miller edition, and in my opinion a) it would have to be suppressed, and b) this 1993 date would need to be checked or given a source. Thanks for looking it up if possible. Linguist 13:29, 17 June 2014 (UTC).

I'm not PV1, but my copy is the same as you describe above, so I agree with your view (I was "new" when I verified this :) ) Prof beard 15:18, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for responding. As Pips55 hasn't been around since December 7th 2013, waiting for a possible answer from him might take some time. I'll go and tinker a bit with that pub record in the meantime. Linguist 16:16, 25 June 2014 (UTC).

Second Variety

Replaced the cover scan (whole wraparound) and added some notes for your verified. Thanks. Linguist 12:37, 18 June 2014 (UTC).

The Father-Thing

Ditto for this one. Thanks. Linguist 08:58, 19 June 2014 (UTC).

The Lovers

Added a minor note to your verified (special lettering by David Myers), and uploaded a new cover scan (better definition). Thanks. Linguist 08:38, 20 June 2014 (UTC).

Edward Valigursky

Please see this discussion regarding covers by Edward Valigursky. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 02:04, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

Noted Prof beard 15:19, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

Dark Universe

Expanded the notes for your verified. Thanks. Linguist 09:17, 24 June 2014 (UTC).

Edge of Time

Replaced scan of your verifed (correct dimension). Thanks. Linguist 10:11, 25 June 2014 (UTC).

New Worlds 34

Hello, I've added some items (editorial, reviews, lettercol) to your verified here. Hauck 16:48, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks :) Prof beard 09:37, 26 June 2014 (UTC)

The Word Bearers Omnibus

re The Word Bearers Omnibus: The publication title has a leading "The", but the title record does not. They should match. Amazon Look Inside doesn't show the leading "The" on the pub's title page. Would you please check your copy and either correct the publication page or title record as appropriate? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 18:35, 28 June 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for this - I've submitted an edit - the correct version is actually "Word Bearers The Omnibus" - I cant understand how I did that in the first place! Prof beard 09:51, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
Yes I can - I cloned the publication from the (unverified) US version (which is also incorrect) - I've submitted an edit for that - that's what I get for being lazy :) Prof beard 09:54, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Missing content record

I added the missing SHORTFICTION content record for this publication, which is required for all CHAPTERBOOK records. Thanks. Mhhutchins 05:35, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Sorry about that! Have submitted an edit with page numberProf beard 09:04, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

The Big Time

Uploaded a new cover scan of your verified (correct dimension, better definition). Thanks. Linguist 16:01, 4 July 2014 (UTC).

Restoree

The artist of this pub must be Angus McKie, judging from this site. Cheers ! Linguist 15:29, 5 July 2014 (UTC).

Thanks - have updated record Prof beard 08:57, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

The Science Fictional Solar System

Is the story on page 153 of this book credited to "Winston P. Sanders" or Poul Anderson? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 23:49, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

The story's title page states: POUL ANDERSON (as Winston P. Sanders) - therefore I listed in as PA? (Sorry for delay by the way, I've been in Canada)Prof beard 08:52, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
Then it's correctly credited in the record. The verified record for the US edition of this anthology credits Anderson. I'll ask that verifier to recheck. Thanks. Mhhutchins 16:34, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

The World Inside

Added some notes and uploaded a new cover scan of your verified. Thanks. Linguist 08:12, 17 July 2014 (UTC).

The Time Hoppers

Same thing with this one. Thanks. Linguist 08:27, 17 July 2014 (UTC).

Bug Jack Baron

Added some notes and replaced the cover scan of your verified. Thanks. Linguist 08:50, 21 July 2014 (UTC).

Astounding (UK), August 1953

Should the unpaged contents in this record be removed, or did you forget to add the page numbers? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 18:03, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for spotting that, they should have been removed from this UK edition - have submitted appropriate edit Prof beard 08:58, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

Spacing in initialed names

Re this publication: I added spaces after the periods in the five stories which are credited to authors with initialed names. Please keep this in mind when adding future records. Also, I removed the space in the last name of one of the two records credited to Graham McNeil. (It was entered as "Graham Mc Neil".) Thanks. Mhhutchins

I will take note of the spacing convention. The Mc Neil thing must have been a typo - thanks for that 09:50, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

The Sun Grows Cold

Hi, I found the artist for your verified copy of The Sun Grows Cold: Colin Hay. See here.--Dirk P Broer 13:03, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

The Sun Grows Cold

Hi, found the artist for The Sun Grows Cold: Colin Hay. See here.--Dirk P Broer 13:04, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! Prof beard 11:04, 3 August 2014 (UTC)

Away and Beyond

Added some notes to your verified, modified page count from 218 to 219 (last page of the text unpaginated), and uploaded a new cover scan (better definition). Thanks. Linguist 10:16, 2 August 2014 (UTC).

Destination: Universe!

Added some notes to this one, and re-sized the cover scan to the correct dimension. Thanks. Linguist 10:34, 2 August 2014 (UTC).

Alien Art

Added a price, with appropriate notes, to [this]. Seems like there was an edition with a dustwrapper?? Maybe both our copies are library editions?? Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 01:28, 4 August 2014 (UTC)

That would seem to be the case Bill - my copy is ex libris... Prof Prof beard 09:16, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

Jizzle

Added some notes to your verified, and uploaded a new cover scan (fewer scuffs and creases, better definition). Thanks. Linguist 09:42, 4 August 2014 (UTC).

The Best of John Wyndham 1951-1960

Added some notes to your verified, and uploaded a new cover scan (better definition). Thanks. Linguist 10:08, 4 August 2014 (UTC).

Web

Added some notes to your verified, and re-sized the cover scan to the correct dimension. Thanks. Linguist 10:22, 4 August 2014 (UTC).

Multiface

Added exact publication date [from Review slip] to [this]. --~ Bill, Bluesman 21:34, 10 August 2014 (UTC)

Analog Two

A few months ago there was a discussion regarding the pricing of this printing of "Analog Two". I wrote a reply on my talk page, in case you are interested. Cheers, Patrick -- Herzbube Talk 09:48, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Tactics of Mistake

Added an external link to the cover artist's web site to this pub that you verified. Cheers, Patrick -- Herzbube Talk 17:59, 13 August 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Prof beard 09:12, 20 August 2014 (UTC)

A Far Sunset

Hi. Can I ask you to double check your verified, please. My copy seems to be identical but it has "SBN 340 04364 4" on the back cover and copyright page, "4364" on the spine (no leading zero) and other prices of Australia 60c, New Zealand 55c, South Africa 45c & Canada 75c. It seems unlikely that you could have missed the SBN but I thought it worth checking before deciding that my copy must be a reprint. Many thanks. --AliHarlow 19:13, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

No - you are quite right! I was pretty new to this when I verified and and the entry (unverified) was already there - I should have been more pedantic! I'll submit an edit, thanks Prof beard 09:08, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. I added the ISBN (derived from the SBN by adding a leading zero) and added a note about the other prices. --AliHarlow 13:47, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
thanks Prof beard 15:33, 22 August 2014 (UTC)

The Maker of Universes

I added price information and reformatted the notes of this pub that you verified. Cheers, Patrick -- Herzbube Talk 20:12, 23 August 2014 (UTC)

Flandry of Terra

Changed the title of one story in [this] from 'A Plague of Masters' to 'The Plague of Masters', matching the title page. Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 18:29, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

Petaja's Saga of Lost Earths

I added the Reginald1 number to the notes for Petaja's Saga of Lost Earths and converted the Worldcat number to a link. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 02:24, 29 August 2014 (UTC)

Wyndham's Outward Urge

Please see this discussion regarding the crediting of the stories in this copy of Wyndham's The Outward Urge. The discussion mainly stems from an earlier printing, but Bill and Willem as well as yourself have all verified the copy referenced above which has the same issue. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 01:57, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

I apologize, but Bill deleted my original post. I have re-hosted the discussion on my own talk page which explains the original issue about how the stories are credited. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 04:20, 30 August 2014 (UTC)

John Brunner Blacklash

I have replaced the image for Blacklash from Bookscans with a scan from my copy. Same image, but within ISFDB control. Doug 19:01, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

Make Room! Make Room!

Replaced the Amazon image for this pub that you verified with an ISFDB cover scan. I also added some pub notes.

On my copy of the book, the prices on the back cover have been obscured: I can barely make out the U.K. price as 35p, and although I can see that there are also prices for Australia and New Zealand, the actual numbers are definitely illegible. It's not terribly important, but if you find the time it would be nice if you could check your book and add the Australian and NZ prices to the pub record. If you do this, there's no need to notify me of the change. Cheers, Patrick -- Herzbube Talk 10:13, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

The Best of Harry Harrison

If you find the time, could you please join this discussion about this pub that verified? Thanks, Patrick -- Herzbube Talk 12:42, 12 September 2014 (UTC)

Digits and Dastards

Replaced the Amazon image for this pub that you verified with an ISFDB cover scan. I also added some pub notes. Cheers, Patrick -- Herzbube Talk 22:06, 14 September 2014 (UTC)

Something Wicked This Way Comes

Hi, the cover art for your verified Corgi edition is by Bruce Pennington, see this Pennington site. Horzel 13:21, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for that :) Prof beard 12:28, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

The Knights of the Limits

Hello, I've made some alterations to this publication, can you confirm that your copy is similar ? Thanks. Hauck 14:06, 10 October 2014 (UTC)

Hi - yes my copy matches that - including the black rectangles Prof beard 10:07, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Space Movies 'first world edition'

Hi. I'm a secondary verifier for this book you've verified: http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?430227. I'm going to add a note that this Severn House "first world edition" also has the US price on front flap of the jacket. I'm also going to delete the note that says "Cover refers to this publication as just 'Classic Science Fiction'". I see no evidence of this on the boards or jacket, all of which use "Space Movies" as the sole title or primary title. Hope you're OK with these clean-up edits, and of course feel free to re-edit if any are inconsistent with your copy of the book. Markwood 22:24, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Hi - I'm happy with that. You misunderstood my note re the cover which MEANT to show it said Spaces Movies with Classic Science Fiction as the secondary title as opposed to Classic Science Fiction Films as on the title page. You edit clears that up and I'm happy with your edits Prof beard 10:09, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

Lost Dorsai

Found cover artist for Lost Dorsai, it is Les Edwards.--Dirk P Broer 21:52, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks! Prof beard 10:48, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Legacy of Heorot

Added the maps to the contents of [this] edition. --~ Bill, Bluesman 04:42, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

Introduction: Shortstory vs. Essay

Usually, the introduction to a book is an essay, but your verified Aftermath list its introduction as a fictional short story. Could you check this and, if it really is a short story, add a title note to the Introduction record noting something like "Fictional introduction"? And of course if it actually is an essay, then correct it? Thanks, Chavey 06:49, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Yes - it is a fictional introduction - have added note to title Prof beard 11:06, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

Science Fiction Review #42

Hi. I disambiguated "Meanwhile, Back at the Newstand..." in your SFR#42. Doug / Vornoff 00:50, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Prof beard 10:34, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

The Strange World of Planet X

Hey there, just to let you know that I added the OCLC link to the notes of The Strange World of Planet X - --Thync 17:34, 16 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Prof beard 11:47, 22 December 2014 (UTC)

A Tupolev Too Far

Added exact publication dates to the [paperback] and [hardcover] editions. A copy of the paperback which I received over X-mas had review slips for both inside, a pleasant surprise! Plus I get to leave one note instead of two. Cheers --~ Bill, Bluesman 22:33, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

Nice one Bill :) ThanksProf beard 11:40, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

The Knight with Two Swords

In your verified The Pendragon Chronicles, would you please double check that the Steinbeck story The Knight with Two Swords doesn't have a "the" before the "Two Swords"? I would like to make sure that's accurate before I variant it to the original (The Knight with the Two Swords). Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 14:43, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi - You are correct and I have made an error. The second "the" in the title is present both in the contents and the story title page. Feel free to correct, or let me know if you would prefer I did it. Sorry! Prof beard 10:25, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
Fixed by merging with the correct title. Thanks for checking. -- JLaTondre (talk) 22:09, 19 January 2015 (UTC)

Cover art of A Plague of Demons

Hello. The cover art of your verified is identical to this one, credited to David Lewis on the bc. Cheers ! Linguist 11:50, 21 January 2015 (UTC).

The Ship Who Sang

Found an artist credit on the back cover of [this]. Extremely tiny print, vertical along the spine about 1cm from the bottom. A small crease could obliterate it but your scan looks like you have a nice copy, so should be there! Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 06:08, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

Nope - sure enough that's where a crease is :) Thanks Prof Prof beard 12:45, 25 January 2015 (UTC)

'Fission Fragments' in Ad Astra

Dave Langford has been making a few recommendations to tidy up his ISFDB page, and suggests putting the six 'Fission Fragments' articles for Ad Astra into an essay series. Any objections? PeteYoung 21:58, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

No, that's fine by me - seems sensible Prof beard 11:15, 13 February 2015 (UTC)

The Days of Glory

Hi, I found your cover artist, it is John Berkey.--Dirk P Broer 12:07, 15 February 2015 (UTC)

I added the price and added to the notes too.--Dirk P Broer 12:48, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
Thanks Dirk! Prof beard 11:01, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

The Magazine of Horror

I see you are the PV2 on the April and August 1965 issues of Magazine of Horror. I also notice the PV1 appears to be inactive since 2013. Would you have any objection to my adding missing columns ("Introduction" and "It Is Written"), the story excerpts (Coming Next Issue) and some notes to those issues? Thanks, Doug / Vornoff 23:17, 15 February 2015 (UTC)


That's fine by me Doug - go ahead! Prof Prof beard 11:00, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, Professor - it's done. Doug / Vornoff 03:22, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
Hi, again. Being relatively new to this game, I'm still trying to get the hang of the protocols and found out I should notify you of a change in authorship on the above mag. My submission is being held until I notify you. It's explained on the help desk. If you have any questions please ask away. Thanks again. Doug / Vornoff 07:11, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
That's all good with me Doug - well identified! - Make the change.. Prof beard 10:37, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

Beyond Fantasy Fiction [UK], v1 #2

Hello, I've expanded notes for your verified issue. Hauck 16:07, 6 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks! Prof beard 10:24, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

I added other prices to your verified

I added other prices to your verified [1].Don Erikson 19:32, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Prof beard 10:30, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

New Writings in SF 26

Attribution for This book. Added the note "Cover art may be Angus McKie attribution unconfirmed (in his style/assumed)." --Mavmaramis 12:20, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

The Halloween Tree

I replaced the artwork for this book with the full wraparound version --Mavmaramis 15:13, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Ken Bulmer Stained-Glass World

Re this book. Comments here suggest the initials are those of Gordon C. Davis. The notes on this edition say that the initials are either indistinct or cut-off and I haven't added this to the notes field to avoid even more confusion. --Mavmaramis 06:31, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

Stainless Steel Rat Returns

Added cover artist + reference http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?429385

Beyond the Galactic Rim

Re this book. Cover art is by Peter Elson as seen on his website. --Mavmaramis 19:51, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Prof beard 09:35, 11 May 2015 (UTC)

Overman Culture

Replaced cover for this book with full wraparound artwork. --Mavmaramis 10:50, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Carnell New Writings 4

Replaced cover for this book with full wraparound version. --Mavmaramis 13:42, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Young Magicians

Replaced cover of this book with a better version scanned from my own copy. --Mavmaramis 14:20, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Mission of Gravity

Artwork for this book is not by Eddie Jones but by Bruce Pennington. Image on Pennington's Facebook page here. Have amended the entry accordingly. --Mavmaramis 14:40, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Kuldesak

Cover art for this book is by Jim Burns, referenced in this book. Record edited accordingly. (edited with correct first link) --Mavmaramis 09:56, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

At the Edge of the World

Replaced cover of this book with frull wraparound version. --Mavmaramis 15:12, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Macdonald - Lilith

Regarding this book. I have replaced the cover with the full wraparound version, added cover artist Gervasio Gallardo as stated under "UK printing December 1971" and the other prices printed on the rear cover. Edit. I noticed a previous discussion about this. Mine has "Adult Fantasy" under a unicorn top right of cover which seems to be indicative of the Pan (Uk) editions. --Mavmaramis 17:55, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Mine also has the "adult fantasy" by the unicorn Prof beard 09:20, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Macdonald - Phantastes

Replaced cover for this book with full wraparound version. --Mavmaramis 18:21, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Well at Worlds End 1 & 2

Replaced cover art for both volumes here and here with full wraparound versions. Note figures on front of Volume 1 correspond with those on the rear of Volume II. --Mavmaramis 18:49, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Dick - Valis

Replaced cover of this book with full wraparound version. Added note "Cover art may be Chris Moore. Attribution unconfirmed (in his style/assumed)." --Mavmaramis 20:35, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

Divine Invasion

Replaced cover for this book with full wraparound version. Added note "Cover art may be Chris Moore. Attribution unconfirmed (in his style/assumed)." --Mavmaramis 08:37, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Dr Bloodmoney

Replaced cover for this book with full wraparound version. --Mavmaramis 08:46, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Game Players of Titan

Added cover art attribution to this book. Art is by Bob Layzell. Referenced in this book. --Mavmaramis 09:01, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for these images - I can never get wraparounds to look that good :) Prof beard 09:18, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
Your most welcome. My books are floppy enough that I can open them out flat on a scanner without breaking them. I scanned the entirety of my book collection sometime in the early 2000s. --Mavmaramis 11:12, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Beta 2/Empire Star

Cover artist for this book is Angus McKie. References on page 46 of this book. Record amended accordingly. --Mavmaramis 14:14, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Genocides

Replaced cover of this book with full wraparound version. --Mavmaramis 16:23, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Ruins of Earth

Replaced cover of this book with full wraparound version. --Mavmaramis 16:42, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Again Dangerous Visions 2

Cover artist for this book is Angus Mckie referenced on page 9 of this book. Record amended accordingly. --Mavmaramis 18:26, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

Deathbird Stories

Replaced cover art of this book with full wraparound version. --Mavmaramis 18:52, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

Time of the Eye

Could you check your copy of this book please. My Panther 1974 edition's introduction is dated 13 January 1974. Record has May 1974 as date. Thanks. --Mavmaramis 19:06, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

The date on the record is the publication date? The date at the end of the introduction is when Ellison wrote the introduction? Prof beard 09:33, 23 May 2015 (UTC)

Dystopian Visions

Replaced cover of this book with one that includes the spine as image continues to that point. --Mavmaramis 17:46, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Listeners

Re this book. Cover art is almost certainly by Peter Elson but it's not one depicted on his website. Added note and replaced cover with full wraparound version. --Mavmaramis 07:24, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Thrice Born

Cover of this book is Bruce Pennington as confirmed on his Facebook page here. Record amended accordingly and replaced cover with full wraparound version. --Mavmaramis 20:23, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

Dragon in the Sea

Replaced cover of this book with full wraparound version and added notes (1) The number "2483" appears on bottom of spine (2) Other prices A$0.80, NZ$0.75 --Mavmaramis 18:55, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

The Best of Frank Herbert 1952-1964

Added note to this book "Cover art may be Ray Feibush. Attribution unconfirmed (in his style/assumed). Confirmed as not Bruce Pennington." and Australian and New Zealand prices. --Mavmaramis 21:12, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

Spaceship Medic

Replaced cover of this book with full wraparound version. --Mavmaramis 07:40, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Robot who looked like me

Added other prices to this book. --Mavmaramis 10:30, 31 May 2015 (UTC)

Menace from Earth

Re this book. I found the cover artist. It's Josh Kirby. Credited in the listing in the back of this book and also on this web page. Record amended accordingly. --Mavmaramis 17:45, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

Heinlein - Space Family Stone

Replaced cover of this book with full wraparound version. --Mavmaramis 18:39, 3 June 2015 (UTC)

More Women of Wonder

Replaced cover of this book with full wraparound version. --Mavmaramis 07:27, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

Orbit 4

Replaced cover of this book with full wraparound version. --Mavmaramis 08:04, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

Kornbluth - The Syndic

Re this book. Cover art may be Fred Gambino. Attribution unconfirmed (in his style/assumed). Note added. --Mavmaramis 19:14, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

A Trace of Memory

Replaced cover of this book with a better less washed out version. --Mavmaramis 19:24, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

Laumer - The Monitors & Worlds of the Imperium

Cover art for Monitors and Worlds of the Imperium are by Josh Kirby credited from this list. Records amended accordingly. --Mavmaramis 19:34, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

Strange Universe

Replaced cover of this book with full(er) wraparound version from my ex. library rebound copy (dust wrapper cut & pasted without flaps onto board). --Mavmaramis 18:34, 11 June 2015 (UTC)

Asimov - Before The Golden Age (Black Cat)

Re this book. Added cover artist Christian Vankeer as per rear flap of dust wrapper. Title page has "Before The Golden Age (over) Trilogy" not sure if that constitutes revising the title. I'll put it into the notes to be on the safe side. --Mavmaramis 18:57, 11 June 2015 (UTC)


This entry was originally put up unverified by someone else. When I verified it I was "very new" to ISFDB and left the title as was. Personally I think the title should be changed to "Before the Golden Age Trilogy"Prof beard 08:55, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

Genius Loci

Replaced cover of this book with full wraparound version. --Mavmaramis 15:50, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

Starchild Trilogy

Replaced cover of this book with full wraparound version and added Australian price to notes. --Mavmaramis 20:09, 16 June 2015 (UTC)

Dick - Dr. Futurity

Cover art for tthis book is Nathan Walsh according to a Facebook post here. I have asked poster for the source. --Mavmaramis 19:00, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Philip K. Dick covers

Found the cover artist for Counter-Clock World and The Turning Wheel. Geoff Taylor - see here and here respectively. Records amended accordingly. --Mavmaramis 04:37, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

Bova - Kinsman

Replaced cover of this book with full wraparound version. --Mavmaramis 07:12, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

Vicinity Cluster

Cover art for this book is Fred Gambino, cedited in Caldwell's "The Fantastic Planet" Record amended accordingly. --Mavmaramis 11:39, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

Seventh Galaxy Reader (SFBC)

Replaced cover of this book with full wraparound version. --Mavmaramis 11:48, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

Venus Plux X (SFBC)

Replaced the "photographed at an angle" cover of this book with full wraparound version. --Mavmaramis 12:00, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

Grain Kings (SFBC)

Added cover artist Chris Foss to this book same artwork as the Hutchinson & Pather editions. --Mavmaramis 12:36, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

The Secret Songs

Edited the typo "Anthony Edwards" in notes to "Anthony Roberts" for this book. --Mavmaramis 17:11, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

The Wanderer

Replaced cover of this book with full wraparound version. --Mavmaramis 17:19, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

The Star Diaries

Re this book. There is a visible signiature 'TY' in circle but you have to look damn hard to see it - almost blends into the purple under the third 'tooth' to the right. Note edited. --Mavmaramis 17:56, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

Falling Astronauts

Replaced cover of this book with full wraparound version. --Mavmaramis 18:47, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

The Man Who Awoke

Cover artist for this book is Peter Jones, credited on page 70 of "Solar Wind." Record amended accordingly. --Mavmaramis 19:15, 23 June 2015 (UTC)

Clement - Mission of Gravity

Added other prices to notes of this book. --Mavmaramis 16:53, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

McCaffrey - Restoree

Replaced Amazon cover of this book with one scanned from my own copy and edited the note about cover artist identifiaction from Pulpcrush's flickr page (yes he is correct in his identification) to "Cover art credited on page 61 of Cowley's 'Spacecraft 2000-2100AD'" --Mavmaramis 17:23, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

All My Sins Remembered

Hi, I found your cover artist for All My Sins Remembered: Angus McKie. Your cover is only less colo(u)rful than this one, where Angus McKie is credited.--Dirk P Broer 22:42, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks! Prof beard 09:38, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Flight of the Horse

Cover art for this book is credited to Tony Roberts here, which seems correct as it's typical Roberts. I'll add a note similar to the one for this book. --Mavmaramis 21:17, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Patchwork Girl

Cover artist for this book is Peter Elson. The large white rectangle on the back has obscured the 'PE' signature but you can see it on Elson's website here. Record amended accordingly and replaced cover with full wraparound version. --Mavmaramis 04:49, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Protector

Replaced cover of this book with full wraparound version. --Mavmaramis 05:00, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Beyond the Blue Event Horizon

Replaced cover of this book with full wraparound version. --Mavmaramis 14:27, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

In the Problem Pit

Replaced cover of this book with full wraparound vertsion. --Mavmaramis 17:32, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Davy

Replaced cover of this book with full wraparound version. --Mavmaramis 18:12, 29 June 2015 (UTC)

Immortality Inc

Replaced cover of this book with full wraparound version. --Mavmaramis 18:21, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Status Civilization

Replaced cover of this book with full wraparound version. --Mavmaramis 18:52, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Across a Billion Years

Replaced Amazon cover of this book with full wraparound version. --Mavmaramis 16:49, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Born with the Dead

Replaced cover of this book with full wraparound version. --Mavmaramis 16:56, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

The Silent Invaders

Replaced cover of this book with full wraparound version. --Mavmaramis 18:19, 2 July 2015 (UTC)

Real-Time World

Added a note to this book viz "Cover art may be Ray Feibush. Attribution unconfirmed (in his style/assumed). Not Pennington from info via Pennington's Facebook page." --Mavmaramis 16:25, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

A Choice of Gods

Replaced cover of this book with full wraparound version. --Mavmaramis 16:47, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

Night of (the) Puudley

Added other prices to notes of this book. --Mavmaramis 17:01, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

The Visitors

Replaced cover of this book with full wraparound version. --Mavmaramis 17:36, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

Starshine

Replaced cover of this book with full wraparound version. --Mavmaramis 18:41, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

Life, the Universe and Everything

Redid cover scan of your verified. Thanks. Linguist 13:18, 8 July 2015 (UTC).

So Long, and Thanks for all the Fish

Expanded the notes to your verified. Thanks. Linguist 13:29, 8 July 2015 (UTC).

Far-Out Worlds of A.E. van Vogt

Replaced cover of this book with full wraparound version. --Mavmaramis 17:26, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

Under Heaven's Bridge

Cover art for this book is Peter Jones. Confirmed from the artist himself via his Facebook page. I've also replaced the cover with the full wraparound. --Mavmaramis 20:17, 9 July 2015 (UTC)

Gene Wolfe's Book of Days

Replaced coiver of this book with full wraparound version. --Mavmaramis 05:54, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Damnation Alley

Replaced cover of this book with full wraparound version. --Mavmaramis 09:36, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

Smith's "The City of the Singing Flame"

Please see this discussion. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 02:30, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Also this one regarding another reprint. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 12:25, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Starshore, Spring 1991

Hi Prof!. Regarding your verified Starshore Spring 1991, I have disambiguated the essay title "Spindrift ..." to include the magazine title (there were three that were the same in this magazine series). I also set all the title dates to match that of the publication date except for the title "A Mouthful of Gold" by Brunner. Locus1 indicates that this was previously published in "Winter's Tales #27", but a cursory search in the db and the net produced nothing sigificant for me. As a Brunner aficionado, I am hoping that you might be able to shed some light on what that publication is or if this story appeared anywhere else previous to Starshore. Just a couple of other things - In Ann K. Schwader's poem can you verify the title "Vayaging Out", seems like it should be 'Voyaging Out', and for the title "Be a Force for Good", the story length might be novellete as indicated in Locus1. Thanks for checking on these issues. - Syzygy 15:42, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Hi! I can find no trace of the "Winter's Tales 27" in the usual places - but found this: http://archive.spectator.co.uk/article/2nd-january-1982/21/short-stories I will look more into it. The poem should be "Voyaging" - d'oh! "Be a Force for Good" is just 5 pages long? Prof beard 11:08, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
Hah! An annual anthology. Should have thought of that. Knowing what to look for I found this on OCLC. Macmillan published this in 1981, as Locus1 stated. As for "Be a Force for Good", five pages of quarto is about 5-6,000 words. Not enough for novelette, so short story it is. That's about it. Do you want to update this or shall I? Your verification-your call. John - Syzygy 15:01, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
Happy for you to do it Prof beard 16:12, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
Will do. Thanks for the help. - Syzygy 16:40, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

The Shuttered Room and Other Tales of Horror

Please see User talk:Willem H.#The Shuttered Room and Other Tales of Horror. You are the secondary verifier. Thank you. --Marc Kupper|talk 00:49, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Cover artist signature

Isn't there a signature of the cover artist Chris Foss in the middle of the bottom of http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?427974 ? --Zapp 15:43, 12 August 2015 (UTC)

Not on my copy - mine has an "F" at the bottom left of the back cover Prof beard 09:47, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

Cover artist for Keep the Giraffe Burning

Please see this discussion. Your opinion is appreciated. Thanks, --Willem 09:21, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

Missing data in primary verified records

Please add the publication format/binding data missing from the records of publications which you have verified. The publication records are linked in this clean-up report under your user name. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 19:39, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

All done Prof beard 08:57, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

The Voices of Time pub. notes

I adjusted the ul list of of pub notes in your pv1'd [2] slightly, I think it makes them a bit easier to read. Astrodan 14:29, 16 September 2015 (UTC)

War of the Fang

Please check the ISBN given in this record. It is identical to the one you gave in this record for another publication. Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins|talk 06:41, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

Oops! Thanks for that - don't know how I managed that! - correction submittedProf beard 09:23, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

Strength of Stones - pub note

I've added a pub note re artist credit to your PV2'd Strength of Stones, PV1 Bill Longley being no longer with us. Astrodan 08:50, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Prof beard 09:10, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

Douglas Adams' Dirk Gently

Can you confirm the price given in this record? Another editor has a copy of the Pan 1988 printing priced at £2.50. Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins|talk 18:33, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Mine says £2.99 for sure. However - although clearly stated as the 1988 printing, mine has a number line indicating it is the fourth printing (9 8 7 6 5 4). (When I PV'd this I was very new to ISFDB) DA's book sold in very large numbers so the £2.50 price is almost certainly an earlier print run Prof beard 08:15, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
Although the edition was published in 1988, your fourth printing was almost certainly not. It's possible that there were four printings in the first year of publication, but not likely. In cases where the printing isn't dated (as opposed to the edition), we enter "0000" in the date field to indicate "unknown". I'll correct the record and accept the other editor's submission to represent the first printing of the 1988 edition. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 16:28, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
That's absolutely fine - I understand that nowadays, but I was "new" back then :) Much appreciatedProf beard 09:24, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

The Man-Kzin Wars - pub note

I've added a pub note on pricing to your PV1'd The Man-Kzin Wars. Astrodan 08:13, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Legacy of Heorot - 'Pages'amendment

Do you mind if I change the 'Pages' count in your PV2'd The Legacy of Heorot from "[11]+399+[1]" to "[11]+400", to deal with the last (unnumbered) page of the novel, as outlined in the help pages? Thanks, Astrodan 10:38, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

That's fine - thanksProf beard 11:23, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Book ToC - page numbers discrepancy

Hi, I've posted a query on the Help Desk notice board, today's date, using the same header as this one. It refers to a page count discrepancy in my copy of your PV1'd Berserker, which may be of interest to you. Astrodan 14:06, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

The Galaxy Primes - pub note

I've added a pub note to your PV1'd The Galaxy Primes. Astrodan 22:45, 25 October 2015 (UTC)

Amazing Stories [UK], v1 #1

Hello, I've changed the number of pages from 128 to 132 as per ISFDB usage (that count ALL pages) for your verified pub. Hauck 11:19, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

Fair enough - probably an oversight, thanks Prof beard 11:24, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
Same for v1 #5. Hauck 11:30, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
Oh well - same batch of acquisitions - must have had an off day or lost the plot - I'm sure I knew that "rule" - thanks again :) Prof beard 10:46, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

Tales from Forbidden Planet

Can you confirm the cover art credit for this publication? Could it be "Bolland" instead of "Boland"? Also, does it have interior illustrations also credited to Bolland? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins|talk 03:46, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

You are right! It is Bolland. Will correct in the next few days It does have interior illustrations - I will add them too.Prof beard 10:04, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

George Mann's By Artifice, Alone

You have verified publications containing George Mann's By Artifice, Alone and By Artifice Alone. Would you please check these to see if they are the same story? If so, please variant if the presence/absence of the comma is correct. If they are the same and they should have the same title, please merge under the correct title. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 20:29, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

They should have both have had the comma - I've sorted it... Prof beard 09:31, 8 December 2015 (UTC)

Aaron Dembski-Bowden / Warhammer

Prof, there are three shortfiction titles in the biblio for Aaron Dembski-Bowden that are not serialised in the 'Warhammer' Universe. They appear in your verified collection The Talon of Horus, alongside that Warhammer novel of the same name. Do you know if these three titles are also Warhammer, or are they actually not in that universe? Thanks for checking. PeteYoung 05:05, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

Yes all the titles in the collection are Warhammer 40,000 universeProf beard 11:20, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, I've put them in the series, plus the remaining unserialised titles in the author's biblio that were already in unverified publications within the Warhammer series or sub-series. PeteYoung 13:02, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

Clark Ashton Smith's "Genius Loci"

I added a note to your verified copy of Genius Loci. I linked to the image on the cover artist's site and pointed out that his image showed different (lower) prices and suggested it was price change prior to publication. Doug 17:18, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

Sounds about right to me Prof beard 10:52, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

New Writings in SF 27 cover credit

User Horzel found the cover artist of New Writings in SF 27. I added the artist and a note about the source. Cheers! --Willem 19:52, 19 December 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Prof beard 10:52, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

Roger Zelazny's "Jack of Shadows"

I have replaced the amazon image for Jack of Shadows with a scanned image. Doug 04:08, 29 December 2015 (UTC)

Study War No More

I added the cover artist and a note about the source to this verified pub. --Willem 10:47, 9 January 2016 (UTC)

An ABC of Science Fiction

Hi, I've added a note, a better cover scan and a cover artist (Barry Evans, cover is signed, see here) to this publication. Horzel 09:43, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

John Fey or John Fay

The illustration for the the story Prott in the January 1953 issue of Galaxy is credited to John Fey in our records, whereas the credit in the magazine is as "John Fay". I'd like to correct this, but I wanted to verify that the credit is also "Fay" in the UK edition which you have verified. I'd be surprised if it were. Let me know, and I'll correct all the affected records at once. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 01:14, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

It is down as "Fay" in the UK edition too - go ahead and correct it by all means Prof beard 09:27, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

World Without Men

I've added cover artist Robert A. Osborne to your verified publication, based on signature RAO. Horzel 13:06, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

The Left Hand of Darkness

Cover artist Colin Hay of this is credited on pages 80 and 96 of this art book. Horzel 09:06, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

Added note to your verified, as well as artist's name. Cheers ! Linguist 19:36, 2 April 2016 (UTC).

Primary verified publication without a binding

Please add the pub format/binding to this record. Mhhutchins|talk 19:44, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Since you've not responded, I tried to look up this publication to add the binding format, and haven't been able to find a current edition for this title. All research has shown that it won't be published until October 2016. Can you confirm that you have a copy and that it is not an advanced copy? If so, please add the binding format. If not, please delete the publication record. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 18:33, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
Still waiting for a response. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 02:16, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
Apologies - I missed this first time. Have edited to show it is hc. Yes I have a copy - not an advance copy. The October date must be for the tp version. Here is the publishers page for my version: http://www.blacklibrary.com/all-products/eye-of-terra-ebook.html Prof beard 08:12, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
Your source gives the price as £30.00, not the £20.00 you have given. And it doesn't give the publication date (month and year which you give.) Is that stated in the book itself? If not, you must give the secondary source for the date in the Note field. Mhhutchins|talk 08:33, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
The link I gave shows "Hardback £20" as far as I can see. I gave the month of publication based on the month it became available (and was purchased) from the publishers site?Prof beard 10:23, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
I guess that being in the US I can only see the US price. If the publication date is not stated in the book, then you must give the source for it in the record's Note field. Please update the record when you get a chance. Mhhutchins|talk 15:49, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

Van Dogen vs Van Dongen

Hi, Your verified copy of Analog Science Fact -> Fiction, February 1962 (UK) contains a story illustrated by Van Dogen. The same story in the US counterpart, Analog Science Fact -> Fiction, October 1961 is illustrated by Van Dongen. Could you please check?--Dirk P Broer 22:57, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

Well spotted - I'm very sorry - a typo on my part, will submit a correctionProf beard 10:04, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

Possible Typos 10-Apr

Here are some possible typos:

Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 19:47, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks! Will sort them outProf beard 10:17, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

The Unexpected Dimension

I added notes regarding cover art credit and catalog number to this pub that you verified. Cheers, Patrick -- Herzbube Talk 21:40, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

Planetkill

Hi, I verified Planetkill as 2nd verifier and slightly altered your publication note. Instead of "First printed in Great Britain in 2008" i made it "First published in Great Britain in 2008". I also added the complete numberline 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1, and the US and Canada prices.--Dirk P Broer 23:24, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

Soul Hunter

Hi, I 2nd verified Soul Hunter and slightly altered your Notes.--~~

Blood Angels: Black Tide

Hi, I 2nd verified your copy of Black Tide, added periods to the lines in the notes and removed the unneeded <enter> between those lines (as [br] -but then with <>- is used, which automatically gives a line break).--Dirk P Broer 12:56, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

The Night of the Puudly

This pub that you verified. I replaced the Amazon image with a cover scan and revised the pub notes as follows:

  • Replace the terse pub note "NEL reissue after two Four Square printings" with a more detailed list of the printing and publishing history from the copyright page
  • Mention the missing cover artist credit
  • Mention where prices appear
  • Re-format the pub notes into a bullet list

Other original information in the pub notes was preserved. Cheers, Patrick -- Herzbube Talk 16:53, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

The Green Hills of Earth

I added a note to this pub that you verified, explaining where the publication date comes from. Cheers, Patrick -- Herzbube Talk 00:15, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

The Shores of Space

This pub that you verified: I found the cover artist and added a pub note. Cheers, Patrick -- Herzbube Talk 00:35, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

The Best of Sci-Fi

Could you please add your opinion to this discussion on my talk page? Thanks, Patrick -- Herzbube Talk 02:10, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

Galaxies Like Grains of Sand

This pub that you verified: I extensively revised the pub notes, with the aim to retain the original information (of course) but to generally be more explicit what is stated in the book. I also noticed what is probably an error: The pub record currently has "Incentive" as starting on page 97, but in my copy of the book the story starts on page 100. Could you please check your book? Thanks, Patrick -- Herzbube Talk 13:00, 20 April 2016 (UTC).

Dirk confirmed the page number, so I took the liberty to fix it already. Following Dirk's suggestion, I also changed the publisher from "Granada" to "Panther / Granada". Cheers, Patrick -- Herzbube Talk 15:35, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
All fine with me - thanks Prof beard 08:22, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

The Encyclopedia of Fantasy

This pub that you verified: I added the publication month from Locus1, and some notes (previously there were no notes at all). I would also like to mention that the pub record had a price of £50 even though there is no price anywhere in the physical book, so I documented the source to be Locus1. Please let me know if anything does not match your book. Thanks, Patrick -- Herzbube Talk 17:23, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

All matches EXCEPT my dust jacket (inside front flap) states £50.00 retail price Prof beard 10:26, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
I might have a different printing then. Could you please look up something else? At the bottom of the dust jacket back cover, in the place where normally ISBN and EAN bar code are located, I only have a completely white rectangle with no letters/nummbers/bar code printed inside. How about your book? Thanks for checking, Patrick -- Herzbube Talk 14:07, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
Mine has a white rectangle BUT with the ISBN and EAN bar code printed in it - the rectangle also contains "NOT FOR SALE IN THE USA" Prof beard 08:51, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
Great information! I created a new pub record and shifted my verification to that one. I also updated the notes in your pub record with the information you gave me so that it becomes easier to keep the two pub records apart. I hope this time all is in order, but let me know if it is not. Thanks for your help, Patrick -- Herzbube Talk 20:45, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

The Alien Way

Hello, found artist for your verified. Hauck 07:43, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

Thanks! Prof beard 08:51, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

The Worm Ouroboros

I'm adding Barbara Remington's cover credit to all the Ballantine E. R. Eddison editions that need them, including this one, with a note that the credit for The Worm Ouroboros comes from her website and that she signed one volume (Mistress of Mistresses) of the uniform edition of four books. MOHearn 14:39, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

ThanksProf beard 10:03, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

Cover: Kemlo and the End of Time

I changed the credit for Cover: Kemlo and the End of Time from "A Bruce Cornwell" (missing period after initial) to "A. Bruce Cornwell". Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 13:38, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Prof beard 08:38, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

John Brunner Presents Kipling's Fantasy: Stories by Rudyard Kipling

I have changed my verification on this pub from Primary1 to Transient. You may wish to change your Primary2 to Primary1. -- JLaTondre (talk) 12:53, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

Thanks - have done so Prof beard 08:37, 31 May 2016 (UTC)

Niven's Man-Kzin Wars II

Uploaded a better cover scan for our verified Man-Kzin Wars II. PeteYoung 11:25, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

ThanksProf beard 08:53, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

Inside ● Outside

Please see this discussion about your verified Inside ● Outside. --Marc Kupper|talk 19:08, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

Fighting Slave of Gor

Cover artist of this is Robin Hiddon, since it's the same art as on L'iceberg rouge. Horzel 22:04, 8 June 2016 (UTC)

Missing story in Dark Fantasies record

Hi. I just saw that the record for your primary verified Dark Fantasies anthology is missing Lisa Tuttle's story Skin Deep, but the other publication records contain it. Did you probably forget to enter it? Jens Hitspacebar 10:40, 19 June 2016 (UTC)

Thanks - well spotted - have put in an edit to add it Prof beard 09:47, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
We now had 2 titles called Skin Deep by Lisa Tuttle in the database after your submission because you added a new title Skin Deep to Dark Fantasies. If a title already exists it's a lot easer to use the "Import Content" link on a publication's page and enter the exsiting title's id into the "Individual Titles" field. That would have been "954404". I made a submission to merge the two Skin Deep titles. Jens Hitspacebar 16:40, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
Thanks - sorry I had a dumb moment there - should have known better :) Prof beard 09:43, 26 June 2016 (UTC)

Earthman, Go Home

Credited the cover of Earthman, Go Home to Peter Caras from the initials similar to those used in his full signature elsewhere. MOHearn 02:42, 8 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Prof beard 08:49, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

The Isotope Man

Hey, I have added the cover artist credit to this book. MLB 07:44, 11 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Prof beard 08:49, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

Bill, the Galactic Hero

I have a query about the publication date of Bill, the Galactic Hero. The Publication Notes state "Published in Penguin Books May 1969" on copyright page. However my copy just says "Published in Penguin Books 1969". Can you check this and if they are different I will clone the record. --AndyjMo 16:25, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for this - the pub note on that entry is wrong (I have submitted an edit) - your copy is the same as mine ("May" should not be there) Prof beard 08:38, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
So, shouldn't the Publication Date be 1969-00-00? Unless there is other evidence which shows the month? --AndyjMo 11:12, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
I think that came from another reference - I didn't enter that myself but have the references to check - will do so and and add a note Prof beard 10:43, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
Done Prof beard 10:47, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

Glory Road

Can you have a look at your copy of Glory Road. My copy has the same information on the copyright page but the front cover has "NEL 2658 FOUR SQUARE" at the top left, whereas the one shown has "NEW ENGLISH LIBRARY" on the top right. Also, the back cover only has UK 7/6, Australia 80c and New Zealand 75c, prices shown, which are different to those in the notes. If they are different then should I create a clone? --AndyjMo 20:04, 24 July 2016 (UTC)

Well spotted! The image (not loaded by me) is of the wrong edition. Can you upload the correct one or would you like me to? I've also noted the error re pricing and will submit an edit for that. This is another one from my first days here and I suspect I didnt read the existing entry well enough! The ISBN is correct, as are the other notes. Prof beard 10:00, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
I've updated the Cover Art. --AndyjMo 10:17, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
Thanks! Prof beard 10:41, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

The Menace from Earth

The individual stories in The Menace from Earth do not have page numbers assigned. Would you like me to add them? --AndyjMo 13:22, 25 July 2016 (UTC)

Yes please - many thanks. These entries are from my first days here before I had fully got the hang of things! Prof beard 09:53, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
Page numbers added (btw I had an additional query on 'Bill, the Galactic Hero' just above. --AndyjMo 10:22, 26 July 2016 (UTC)

Amazing Stories, February 1964

I added two letters to Amazing Stories, February 1964 by Billy Wolfenbarger and Jay Kay Klein. MLB 00:34, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

Simak's The Autumn Land and Other Stories

Added overseas cover prices to our verified pub. PeteYoung 03:12, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Prof beard 08:38, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Pohl's Day Million

Added overseas cover prices to our verified Day Million. PeteYoung 20:29, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Prof beard 09:04, 13 August 2016 (UTC)

Ad Astra Issue Thirteen

I have added the cover artist for this issue and adjusted the note pertaining to it. Syzygy 14:53, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

Thanks! Prof beard 14:16, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

Wolf of Ash and Fire

In your verified Eye of Terra, would you mind double checking the first story does not have a "The" (i.e. "The Wolf of Ash and Fire" vs. "Wolf of Ash and Fire"). The publisher's webpage lists it with a "The". I would like to make sure before I variant an alternate publications that does contain the "The". Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 22:56, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

Well spotted - I have made an error "The" should be present - I'd be happy for you to correct this if you wish - or I'll do it myself? Prof beard 09:31, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
I have merged the two records under the 'The' version. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 22:55, 11 September 2016 (UTC)

The Green Hills of Earth

HI, I've imported content for your verified copy of The Green Hills of Earth.--Dirk P Broer 00:52, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Prof beard 08:57, 2 October 2016 (UTC)

Assignment In Eternity

Hi, I've imported content for your verified copy of Assignment In Eternity.--Dirk P Broer 12:35, 24 September 2016 (UTC)


Thanks Prof beard 08:57, 2 October 2016 (UTC)

Fearn's Conquest of the Amazon

Added the Foreword to our verified pub. PeteYoung 15:48, 24 September 2016 (UTC)


Thanks Prof beard 08:58, 2 October 2016 (UTC)

Orbit 3/Three

Hi, I slightly expanded the notes for our verified copy of Orbit Three.--Dirk P Broer 10:32, 1 October 2016 (UTC)

Best from F&SF Third Series.

I'm adding the poem on page 256 that we missed in The Best from Fantasy and Science Fiction, Third Series. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 00:41, 29 October 2016 (UTC)

Beyond the Galactic Rim

Hello, can you have a look at the bc of this pub to see what australian price it bears? Thanks. Hauck 16:39, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

Mine says $4.95 Prof beard 10:29, 6 November 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, the record has been corrected (we all have $4.95). Hauck 10:48, 6 November 2016 (UTC)

The Wanderer

The Cover Artist for The Wanderer should not be identified as Franco Grignani as he is only credited on the back cover as the designer not the illustrator. --AndyjMo 17:00, 22 November 2016 (UTC)

"The Horla" in The Vampire (1965)

Long story, not so long request! As I'm sure you know, back in the early days of the DB, different translations of the same story weren't separated out into different title records. That's the practice now, though, meaning a whole lot of slow revision of previous work... I am trying to identify the translators for Guy de Maupassant's "The Horla" -- at least twelve to date, not all with publications in the DB. The editors of Blood and Roses: The Vampire in 19th Century Literature (1993) credit the version they print to Marjorie Laurie. However, it actually isn't the same text as what Everyman's Library have been crediting to Laurie since 1934; one of these editions is mistaken, and I'm inclined to think it's the recent one. Now, on the basis of a comment in a thesis I found while searching the web, I believe that the same translation, with the same attribution, was used in The Vampire, edited by Ornella Volta and Valeria Riva. Would you please confirm that, since you verified the publication? One of the last pages of the story will contain the more-or-less exact wording "...with it came a shudder, a shudder of fear. The birds awoke. A dog began to howl. It was like sunrise. Presently two other windows fell out, and I could see that the whole lower storey of my house was nothing less than a raging furnace. Then a horrible shrill shriek rent the air..." If it's the same, please tell me what the entire first paragraph of the story is-- that's what I'm chiefly using to compare translations, and I couldn't get it from the Google Books snippet view of Blood & Roses. So anyway, if the translator is misidentified again in The Vampire, that doesn't get us any closer to knowing who really did the work, but it does help in grouping translated records together.

You also verified H. P. Lovecraft's Book of Horror. The translation in that anthology is (I'm almost entirely certain) one first published in 1903, which you can see here; I would appreciate you checking if there's any mention of the translator's name in the anthology, although this translation is generally published uncredited. Also, does the title at the head of the story have a subtitle: "The Horla, or Modern Ghosts" (so this version is often called).

Thanks very much for the help! --Vasha 22:58, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

My copy attributes the translation to Marjorie Laurie. Section towards the end is as you give. First paragraph: "What a glorious day! I have spent the whole morning lying on the lawn in front of my house, under the spreading tree which shelters and shades it entirely. I love this country-side, where I have my roots, those deep-searching, delicate fibres, which attach a man to the land where his ancestors were born and died, which link him to the local ways of thought, local diet, local idioms, to the intonations of the country-folk, to the odours of the soil, the village, and very atmosphere."
In the second book there is no attribution of the translation and the title has no subtitle. Hope this helps. Prof beard 09:46, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

So... back to report that I've solved this mystery. Having finally looked at a copy of the Everyman edition, which states on the title page that it is translated by Marjorie Laurie, I find that only "The Horla" has a different translator, Brian Rhys. So in fact, it isn't a problem that the text which Volta & Riva attribute to Laurie is different from the Everyman text. I've changed the note on your edition. --Vasha 18:35, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Great Science Fiction Adventures

I added pub month with explanatory pub note to your PV'd http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?15923. Markwood 23:19, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

The View from the Stars

Can you please check the list of other prices on the back cover of The View from the Stars. My copy has the New Zealand price as (6/6) 65c. If your verified record is correct then I'll create a clone for my copy. --AndyjMo 11:17, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

You are right! Thanks for spotting that - it is indeed 65C. Feel free to correct it. 09:07, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

"Virtue of the Sons" vs. "Virtues of the Sons"

When you have a moment, could you please check if "Virtue of the Sons" in your verified Death and Defiance is the same as "Virtues of the Sons' in your verified War Without End? TIA! Ahasuerus 20:28, 11 December 2016 (UTC)

My error I'm afraid - it should be "Virtues" in both cases. Will you correct? Thanks Prof beard 10:21, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
Corrected and merged. Hauck 10:34, 18 December 2016 (UTC)
Thanks! Prof beard 09:47, 19 December 2016 (UTC)

The Barsoom Project

I've added the Printing History, Cover Artist source and other prices to the Notes of The Barsoom Project. --AndyjMo 15:13, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

Year of the Unicorn

I've added the source of the Cover Artist to Year of the Unicorn. --AndyjMo 13:24, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

Search the Sky

Added the source of the Cover Designer to Search the Sky. I've also replaced the Cover with a scan of my copy (not so used). --AndyjMo 16:25, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

Carnacki, the Ghost-Finder

Cover artist for this is Peter Goodfellow, as can be seen here. Horzel 12:17, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

Dark Voices #4

Added a slight amount of content to your verified Dark Voices #4. MLB 04:54, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

Sentinels from Space

Updated Sentinels from Space with Printing History and source of Cover Artist. --AndyjMo 12:25, 20 April 2017 (UTC)

'Gave Thorpe'

Hi! Shouldn't this item be credited to Gav Thorpe (could you please check)? Stonecreek 03:13, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

There is no credit for the editor in my copyProf beard 09:11, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

Arlan Andrews, Sr.

I am changing the canonical name for Arlan Andrews, Sr.; this will affect some verified pubs of yours, such as issues of Analog. Vasha 15:45, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

A batch of nongenre stories - if you disagree please comment

Currently there are numerous non-genre horror stories that are in the database because it's natural to just enter a book of horror or "tales of terror" without figuring out which stories are supernatural. I don't intend to systematically hunt for them, but when I spot one, I like to mark it nongenre. (In the case of classic stories, marking is better than removing it from the database because it'll just get re-added with some new anthology.) At the moment, I've spotted the following stories that I think need such a change, and I'm consulting people who have them in their verified pubs.

Firstly, there's Great Tales of Terror and the Supernatural (verified copies: (1), (2), (3), (4), (5), (6), (7)), which contains "A Terribly Strange Bed," "The Three Strangers," "The Most Dangerous Game," "Leiningen Versus the Ants," "A Rose for Emily," "Taboo," and undoubtedly other non-supernatural ones that I'm not noticing at the moment. Here are verified publications for those and some other stories:

Are there any of those stories you think ARE genre? Vasha 15:04, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

ADDENDUM: Discussion moved to the Community Portal. --Vasha 01:04, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

Jack of Shadows

Added the Printing History to Jack of Shadows. --AndyjMo 14:48, 30 June 2017 (EDT)

A Plague of Demons

Hello, the real artist has been found for this pub. Hauck 05:16, 14 July 2017 (EDT)

Beasts of Gor

Hi, the cover artist of this is Walter Wyles, see Todaysinspiration blog. Horzel 11:05, 31 July 2017 (EDT)

Feel free to update - thanksProf beard 04:51, 31 August 2017 (EDT)

Fighting Slave of Gor

Cover artist of this is Robin Hiddon, same cover art as on L'iceberg rouge. Horzel 11:11, 31 July 2017 (EDT)

Feel free to update - thanksProf beard 04:52, 31 August 2017 (EDT)

Dark Voices 2 cover art

Hello. Concerning the cover art of these pubs, my copy clearly indicates on bc "Cover illustration by Marshall Arisman". Do you confirm the name of Dave Carson (whose style is utterly different) on yours ? In this case, there seems to be a slight problem ! Thanks, Linguist 05:26, 11 August 2017 (EDT).

This is entirely my error - the TITLE PAGE is Carson - the cover is not credited on my copy Prof beard 04:49, 31 August 2017 (EDT)

The Starry Rift

Hi, I changed the page count from 256 to 250 and added the short story At the Library that appears at pages 248-250 of The Starry Rift.--Dirk P Broer 11:39, 11 August 2017 (EDT)

Rings of Ice

Updated the Printing History for Rings of Ice. --AndyjMo 08:16, 18 August 2017 (EDT)

Var the Stick

Updated the Printing History for Var the Stick (added statement about Corgi edition and Copyright statement). The OCLC number listed is for a 1975 edition by Transworld Publishers. There seem to be a number of records for this edition in WorldCat e.g. 877355538, which gives the ISBN and lists Corgi as the publisher. Should this be the link? --AndyjMo 10:36, 19 August 2017 (EDT)

Vicinity Cluster

Updated the Printing History for Vicinity Cluster. --AndyjMo 11:56, 19 August 2017 (EDT)

Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency

Updated the Printing History for Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency and added the price in New Zealand. --AndyjMo 17:00, 24 August 2017 (EDT)

Spectrum IV

Updated the Printing History for Spectrum IV and added other prices. --AndyjMo 17:25, 29 August 2017 (EDT)

The High Crusade

Updated the Printing History for The High Crusade. Added the New Zealand price. --AndyjMo 09:19, 30 August 2017 (EDT)

The Star Fox

Added the Printing History to The Star Fox and replaced the (slightly tired) Cover Art with a scan of my copy. --AndyjMo 13:48, 30 August 2017 (EDT)

The Wind from Nowhere

Updated the Printing History for The Wind from Nowhere, added the source of the cover artist and moved the OCLC. --AndyjMo 08:14, 5 September 2017 (EDT)

Tiger! Tiger!

Added the Printing History and the source of the cover artist to Tiger! Tiger! . Moved the OCLC. --AndyjMo 11:55, 6 September 2017 (EDT)

Traveller in Black

Hi, I've imported content for Traveller in Black.--Dirk P Broer 17:52, 24 September 2017 (EDT)

Earthman, Come Home

Earthman, Come Home: the ID on the front cover is “2205-8” (at the top left under the Mayflower Dell logo). On the spine it is 2205 (over) 8. Should the Catalog ID be changed to match this? --AndyjMo 17:28, 26 October 2017 (EDT)

"The Hitchhiker"

I am marking Roald Dahl's story "The Hitchhiker" non-genre which affects your verified publication Death on Wheels. --Vasha 16:24, 5 November 2017 (EST)

Dangerous Visions 2

Replaced Amazon cover of Dangerous Vision 2 with one from my own collection --Mavmaramis 12:09, 10 November 2017 (EST)

Thanks Prof beard 06:35, 28 December 2017 (EST)

Ahead of Time

Hi, the cover artist of this is René Magritte, see this gallery ("The Ready-Made Bouquet"). I found a different version in a book about Magritte. Horzel 11:22, 21 November 2017 (EST)

A Gift from Earth

A Gift from Earth;.This record has an ISBN recorded but the book does not actually have an ISBN (just the ID ‘63886’ on the spine). I believe that the ISBN has been copied from the OCLC record. Should this ISBN be recorded in the ISBN field or should it just be a note? Neutron Star identifies the same problem but does not include the ISBN. --AndyjMo 15:56, 19 January 2018 (EST)

The Expert Dreamers

The Expert Dreamers; This has the Note “£0.60 In U.K. (new price) / 6/- in Australia”. My copy has “60c AUSTRALIA 6/-“ on the back cover. The price on the front cover is 3/6 which in ‘new money’ converts to 18p. I think that the 60c refers to the Australian ‘new price’. I suggest that the Note should read “60c AUSTRALIA 6/-“. --AndyjMo 07:32, 24 January 2018 (EST)

SF: The Other Side of Realism

I added my PV for http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?265552, and made 3 additions to notes: (1) "Edited by" credit for Clareson, (2) info from copyright page, and (3) artist attribution for the 2 illustrations (based on ISFDB info about "Drowsy", plus the Internet Archive images of "Drowsy"). Markwood 15:01, 12 March 2018 (EDT)

Tales of Terror from Outer Space

Our verified Tales of Terror from Outer Space has the story "The Head Hunters" as "The Head-Hunters" (hyphenated). There's already a variant, so I propose changing it. Cheers. PeteYoung 12:27, 15 April 2018 (EDT)

It's been an month and no reply, so I've made the edit. Thanks. PeteYoung 20:47, 16 May 2018 (EDT)

Cat's Cradle

Please see discussion of your verified 288816 here. --AliHarlow 13:17, 16 April 2018 (EDT)

The Unfriendly Future cover art

I thought I posted this here already but it seems to have disappeared. I'm nearly 100% sure that the cover of The Unfriendly Future is by Gino D'Achille, because the "gd" initials on the cover match the g and d on his signature on the first image at this link. Yes, it's five years before D'Achille's first credited cover, but he was in London doing other book work (illustrations for Bible stories, etc.) so it's plausible, especially given the initials. I want to know whether that's enough evidence to make the attribution. Mphillips 21:57, 3 June 2018 (EDT)

A Maze of Death

Hello. I've added "Author's Foreword" to our verified. Cheers, Linguist 08:32, 3 July 2018 (EDT).

Nightwings

Regarding this edition of Nightwings, the cover artist is Dave Pether. I just bought the original painting from him and it is now in the Welshgriffin Collection. Welshgriffin 01:17, 8 August 2018 (EDT)

Malodrax

In your verified publications Malodrax and Tech-Priest you have the art credited to "Helge C Balzar." That artist's name is usually spelled "Helge C. Balzer;" could you check again for typos? (For the moment, I have simply pseudonymed these titles to Balzer.) --Vasha (cazadora de tildes) 14:10, 23 August 2018 (EDT)

Lest Earth be Conquered

Re - this I added other prices and also changed the pagination from 142 to 144 --Mavmaramis 07:06, 8 September 2018 (EDT)

The Science Ficiton Book

Re this book - a recent post on Twitter brought my attention to this image:

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As "Satellite of Extraterrestrial Civilization by Andrey Sokolov"

It's been modified (redrawn perhaps) and had additions but defuinatly the same base image.

It is viable to put Sokolov as covert artist or merely make a note about it ? --Mavmaramis 09:07, 21 April 2019 (EDT)

Swords of Mars

Amended the notes of this with the full printing history. --Mavmaramis 11:48, 7 September 2019 (EDT)

Science Fiction Stories

The cover artist of Your PV pub Terry Oakes is credited in first printing. --Zapp 02:38, 13 October 2019 (EDT)

The Best of Hammer and Bolter Volume One

Hi, I dropped the now erroneous 'Data from Amazon.co.uk', put the publication's title into line and imported the further pieces of interior art. Thanks, Stonecreek 02:55, 21 December 2019 (EST)

Master's Choice 2

The covers of Master's Choice 1 (in the lower left corner, see Flickr) and this (in the circle at about half past four) both do have a signature Panos. Horzel 07:32, 11 February 2020 (EST)

A New Settlement of Old Scores

Hi, I added a link to the NESFA site for your verified copy of A New Settlement of Old Scores that might be usefull when you want to enter content -I tried it at the other record for this title and there are some questions left as to the amount of songs and how many pieces of interior art are exactly -and which is by whom.--Dirk P Broer 17:25, 22 February 2020 (EST)

The Syndic

Cover art of this confirmed as Fred Gambino by artist himself via Twitter. --Mavmaramis 02:35, 11 April 2020 (EDT)

Survival Game

Cover for this is same (minus the star chart) as the Dobson edition where credited to Richard Weaver. --Mavmaramis 17:52, 14 May 2020 (EDT)

Far Boundries

I added a note to your verified copy of Far Boundries. MLB 22:29, 2 June 2020 (EDT)

Alien Worlds

Ian Schoenherr has confirmed that John Schoenherr was the cover artist of Alien Worlds (Paperback Library 1964). Horzel 17:10, 4 June 2020 (EDT)

The Best of Frank Herbert 1952-1964

Cover art for this conformed as Ray Feibush on the Bruce Pennington Fan Page on Facebook. --Mavmaramis 10:31, 9 October 2020 (EDT)

Yandro, #173 July 1967

A quick FYI re: your verified Yandro, #173 July 1967: I have corrected the spelling of "Juanita" in the publisher's name. Ahasuerus 15:01, 4 November 2020 (EST)

Early Williamson

Finally got round to replacing the Amazon cover of this for one scanned from my own copy. --Mavmaramis 08:20, 14 November 2020 (EST)

Skylark DuQuesne

Relaced Amazon cover of this --Mavmaramis 03:39, 17 November 2020 (EST)

Dangerous Vision 2

Cover of this is Joe Petagno. It is signed vertially on the extreme left very close to the spine near the bottom on my copy but may be cropped. --Mavmaramis 07:58, 22 December 2020 (EST)

New Worlds 10

Cover art for this is Mike Little. Credired on p.165 of this publication. Almost certainly the same artists responsible for the cover of this as well. --Mavmaramis 08:22, 24 December 2020 (EST)

Guardians and Rogue of Gor

Hi, Simona D'Achille has checked the archives and confirmed by email that her father Gino D'Achille painted the cover art of Rogue of Gor and Guardians of Gor. Horzel 15:20, 26 January 2021 (EST)

Same for Robert Sheckley's Options. Horzel 15:25, 26 January 2021 (EST)

Impulse, April 1966

Replaced linked Galactic Central cover art of this with one scanned from my own copy. --Mavmaramis 13:19, 25 March 2021 (EDT)

Kemlo and the Star Men

Hello Prof. Could you check your copy of this book please. Mine has the price 2/6 printed on the cover top right. --Mavmaramis 06:19, 1 April 2021 (EDT)

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