User talk:Qshadow

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Hello, Qshadow, and welcome to the ISFDB Wiki! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

Please be careful in editing publications that have been primary verified by other editors. See Help:How to verify data#Making changes to verified pubs. But if you have a copy of an unverified publication, verifying it can be quite helpful. See Help:How to verify data for detailed information.

I hope you enjoy editing here! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will insert your name and the date. If you need help, check out the community portal, or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome! Mhhutchins 16:32, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Adding author data to pseudonyms

We usually don't provide author data for pseudonyms, so I'm holding those submissions that do this for discussion. For example, "J. D. Robb" wasn't born in 1950, but Nora Roberts was. There's a link on the pseudonym page to the canonical author's summary page, where complete author data is provided. Mhhutchins 16:59, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Please see this discussion. Thanks. (One of them was accidentally accepted. I've removed the date.) Mhhutchins 21:12, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
I agree, this seems a reasonable policy. Qshadow 08:33, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Gillian Rubinstein

I have approved the additional data for Gillian Rubinstein, but I wonder whether her legal name is really "Gillian Margaret Hanson Rubinstein". She was apparently born "Gillian Margaret Hanson" and then changed her last name to "Rubinstein", but do we know if she turned her maiden name into a second middle name? Ahasuerus 22:47, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

I must admit that now as you brought my attention to this I am also confused. I saw this http://www.encyclopedia.com/article-1G2-3438015240/rubinstein-gillian-margaret-hanson.html and thought this the legal name. But maybe they are not putting there the "legal name" in our definition? Please choose whatever you see as best. Qshadow 08:27, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
After reviewing the "encyclopedia.com" page that you linked, I think we can follow their lead and leave all middle names as they currently are. It's standard bibliographic practice to list middle names in parentheses if they are not used by the author and the source is pretty solid, so we should fine. Thanks for finding it! Ahasuerus 00:40, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

ISDB dating

All dates should be in the format YYYY-MM-DD. When the month or day is unknown, complete with zeros. I accepted the submission adding birth and death dates to Rodrigues Ottolengui before realizing you'd left off the -MM-DD. That's why the system automatically gives them as "unknown". Please update when you get the chance. Thanks. Mhhutchins 15:05, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Same situation with Victor Hugo, Frank Richardson Pierce, Jean de La Hire, Restif de La Bretonne, William Mudford, Felix Bodin and Rudolph De Cordova. Mhhutchins 15:07, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
And Lucretia P. Hale, J. E. Grinstead, and Charles De Kay. Also, country standard is USA. I'm accepting the ones that have additional information and rejecting the ones that only add dates (incorrectly). Mhhutchins 15:08, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
I will fix it, sorry. Qshadow 15:19, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Author Edits

I've been working on authors for a couple of years now, and I'm a little bothered by some of your recent author edits. Your deletion of a large number of legal names is especially bothersome. As titled this is used for the author's legal name and for the full reading of the canonical name, if initials are used. In many cases these were entered using Gale's Contemporary Authors, Who's Who, and other well known references. In some cases after reviewing your edit history I can see where your edits are heading, in others not. It would be reassuring to me to have a better idea of your intent.--Rkihara 17:55, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, after looking over your entries again it looks like you're cleaning up pseudonym/author relationships.--Rkihara 18:11, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

You do seem to be rushing things a bit though - you confused Kevin David Anderson and Kevin J. Anderson, and Peter Hamilton and Peter F. Hamilton for instance. Please be a little more careful. BLongley 18:13, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
And Al Reynolds and Alastair Reynolds. Please check the dates of the works they've written against the proposed birth date - at least twice you've suggested they wrote stuff before they were born. BLongley 18:19, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
BLongley. I am really sorry. I was a bit tired i guess. Will be much more careful now. Thanks for finding these errors!Qshadow 18:25, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
No worries - that's why we have moderators. BLongley 18:58, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
Rkihara. I always try to move the data from ps to real author. Never do I just delete it (well at least i hope so, I even double checked that no data was lost without moving using previous snapshot of ISFDB). Did you revert any of my edits? Qshadow 18:25, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
I haven't reverted any of your edits. It took me a while to figure out what you were doing, since the edit history is in reverse chronological order. After I reviewed the files in the correct order along with the changes it made sense. I should have realized that these were not standalone edits.--Rkihara 00:20, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Fuzzy Matches Project

I've made a few changes to the project page: 1) split it into sections (to avoid conflicts if more than one editor is working on it at the same time), 2) separated the matched pairs for better display, and 3) changed the designated markings and their definitions. This latter change is closer to the reasons why such problems may exist. It's not the names themselves that are the errors, but possible errors in the title records which created those names. This project is really going to clean-up many errors in the db. Thanks. Mhhutchins 15:08, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

I am glad to help, and I have other ideas as well. I saw that you and BLongley jumped on the cleanup work like two wolves :) Thanks, for the help! I am working on double checking that I haven't missed anything and maybe will add a few more suspicious pairs. Qshadow 18:08, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
When you've been around as long as we have, a new project can be quite rejuvenating. BLongley 20:45, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

C. Henry = Henry van Dyke

What is your source that "C. Henry" who had the story "The Ruling Passion" in a 1930 issue of Weird Tales is Henry van Dyke? True, van Dyke had a collection of stories titled The Ruling Passion: Tales of Nature and Human Nature, but no story by that name appears in the collection. Thanks. Mhhutchins 18:46, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

I found that Henry van Dyke had the same title story, but I still was not sure, so I submitted it for review. I wanted to write a comment for moderator about submission that I am not sure about this edit, but no comments possible there. Is it possible to add comments fields? Qshadow 18:54, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
Comments to Mod like this? Image:Mkpseudo.jpg BLongley 21:46, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
If so, it should be fairly trivial, although adding such to Remove Pseudonym may make the screen rather cluttered. Or are you asking to have permanent notes for the reason stored in the database? BLongley 21:46, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
Blongley, this solution would be perfect. I do not need it to be permanent notes. For permanent notes there is the Bio page that I will use. Thanks, Qshadow 22:16, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
OK, change submitted for Ahasuerus to look at when he returns from his travels. BLongley 23:11, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
By the way, don't be afraid to request enhancements at our Sourceforge page. We'd rather know where we could improve, even if we haven't got the resources to do it just yet. But as you can see, we've squashed 75% of the bugs and implemented almost a third of the Feature Requests. BLongley 23:41, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
Thanks, I will. Qshadow 00:38, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
It's probably better to inquire on the Help Desk before submitting when you're not sure about pseudonyms. We've added a "Note to the Moderator" field in many submissions, but haven't made one yet for this type (making pseudonyms.) Thanks. Mhhutchins 19:39, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
No problem, will use the Help Desk if it is easier for you. Qshadow 19:43, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
Better, not easier. If a "Note to the Moderator" field is added to this type of submission, it should be used the same as other types: to provide the moderator with additional information that will guide them to approve the submission. If you have doubts, questions or concerns about the pseudonym, don't make a submission. Make an inquiry at the Help Desk. Thanks. Mhhutchins 22:50, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

Schema:license_keys

You asked "no longer exists, or is it future Schema?" - I believe it exists still, but isn't included in the public downloads for security reasons. (We don't want people to be able to pose as other users do we?) BLongley 18:03, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Gilles Thomas/Julia Verlanger

Hello, I've put on hold your submissions which intended to make Verlanger a pseudonym of Thomas as, it seems to me that the Verlanger name (of Elaine Taieb) is more the canonical one, cf. the Julia Verlanger Price here. What do you think ? Hauck 18:51, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Probably you are right, but my change only made variant titles, so Julia Verlanger was marked as PS of Gilles Thomas, before me. Regards, Qshadow 19:53, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
Everything is corrected now. Hauck 20:31, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Night of the Big Fire

I've rejected the submission making this title by John E. Muller into a variant of a collaborative novel by three of the authors who are known to have used the housename "John E. Muller". According to The Science Fiction Encyclopedia it was written by John S. Glasby alone. I've made it into a variant by him. Mhhutchins 21:00, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Yes, i was not sure about this one and waited to see if it gets approved. Next time i see multiple authors, i will ask in the help desk first. Qshadow 21:19, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

"A Spot on the Sun" by Joseph Mois

What is your source that attributes this title to Erroll Collins? According to the SFE, "Some sources list all the other authors of the latter [Fantastic Science Thriller pocketbook] series – William Causett, Clyde Marfax, Joseph Mois and Simon Querry – as Redknap [Erroll Collins] pseudonyms; from stylistic evidence this seems unlikely. [JC/SH]". Thanks. Mhhutchins 21:06, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

I think there is a misunderstand of my edits, I am not changing any Author-Pseudonym relationships, and I am not making any new pseudonyms, if you look at 137808 (Joseph Mois), you will see that he is already marked as a pseudonym of "Erroll Collins", the only thing i do now is making the titles (e.g. under Joseph Mois) match this information, of course i assume that this information is correct (since it is already in ISFDB). Qshadow 21:15, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
Oh, i just though, maybe you mean that "Joseph Mois" is a REAL person, and also was used as a pseudonym of Erroll Collins? Qshadow 21:21, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
No. All I'm asking for is the source of the data that warranted your submission to make Erroll Collins the author of "A Spot on the Sun." If it was only because there's an established pseudonym between Collins and "Mois", I have to reiterate: just because a pseudonym relationship has been created between two authors doesn't mean that all of the work published under the pseudonym was published by that author. As I state above, "Joseph Mois" is a housename (which SFE corroborates), but there is no evidence that any particular work published as by "Mois" was written by Collins. We have to be careful when attributing work originally published under a housename. As it appears that your only source for the submission was the ISFDB itself, I'll reject the submission. If research provides some other source for the author credit, we can always create a variant. Thanks. Mhhutchins 03:39, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
Got it, I will check in the SFE (I didn't know they already went online). Regards, Qshadow 10:12, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Series "281"

Hi, I assume you ment to enter "Dying Earth" which in the data base is numbered 281 so I re-entered the correct series name.Kraang 00:39, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Yes, Thanks! Qshadow 15:15, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
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