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Hello, Unapersson, and welcome to the ISFDB Wiki! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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The beta has started as of this morning; so please feel free to dive in. The beta project page is here; if you have any questions, just ask me at my talk page. Mike Christie (talk) 07:33, 22 Dec 2006 (CST)

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Scared Stiff submission

Hi -- I saw the submission for "Scared Stiff"; I see it's a collection. I'm approving it, but I just wanted to let you know that we would like to get the story contents entered too, if that's possible. There's a version of this collection entered already that does have the contents; that's this one. You might find it easier to use the Clone Publication tool, which will show up in the toolbar when you display a publication. The clone tool duplicates all the stories so you don't have to reenter each one.

If you decide to do that, I suggest you just submit a delete request for this one and reenter a new one cloned from the existing one. Otherwise you can just add contents, and hand-merge each story with other versions.

If this doesn't make sense, just ask -- entering story collections is rather less obvious than entering novels, so it might take a bit more explanation. Mike Christie (talk) 08:31, 22 Dec 2006 (CST)

Hi again -- same comments for the omnibus and the other collection -- I won't comment here again, since we're glad to have the new publications entered even without the contents, but it would be great to get the contents too. Thanks -- Mike Christie (talk) 08:36, 22 Dec 2006 (CST)
Oops, you're right -- the "Add Publication" screen doesn't permit you to do that. I'd forgotten that, since I usually just clone collections. Glad to hear you'll be working directly from actual copies. Thanks -- Mike Christie (talk) 08:54, 22 Dec 2006 (CST)

I just approved your contents submission, and had a one quick bit of feedback. The "introduction" and "afterword" should be "ESSAY" type -- we use NONFICTION for booklength works, to indicate that the whole work has no fiction in it. ESSAY is used for any kind of short nonfiction. I've already made the change to the book, so this is just for future reference. Mike Christie (talk) 09:11, 22 Dec 2006 (CST)

Saw your note about the zeros on the dates -- it may have been related to using a single zero for the month and year. However, what's usually the easiest approach is to leave the dates blank. They'll then pick up the date of the overall title, by default. If this isn't accurate, because for example they were actually published earlier, the problem is often resolved when you merge those titles with earlier publications of those same titles -- the other titles will have the earlier date. Mike Christie (talk) 11:23, 22 Dec 2006 (CST)
Also, please note that the date format is YYYY-DD-MM. Anything else, e.g. YY-MM-DD, will cause problems. We should probably add more warning messages in this area. Ahasuerus 11:25, 22 Dec 2006 (CST)
It's actually YYYY-MM-DD; that's just a typo on Ahasuerus's part. I think he was just emphasizing that a 2-digit year would cause problems; e.g. it doesn't understand YY-MM-DD. Mike Christie (talk) 11:43, 22 Dec 2006 (CST)
Thanks, Mike, that's exactly what I meant. Sorry about this attack of dyslexia, I am in the middle of trying to catch a plane and they are slippery this time of the year... Ahasuerus 13:03, 22 Dec 2006 (CST)
Considering slippery, I was just about to reject a submission from someone that used YYYYMMDD and send back a note about using YYYY-MM-DD when I thought; perhaps I should test it first. Whatdeyaknow, YYYYMMDD works fine. Marc Kupper 02:29, 23 Dec 2006 (CST)

Cold Print question

Before I approve the Cold Print update, which looks fine, I wanted to ask about the other publication. The title display show two publications, one of which is listed as having been verified as a novel. Is this a mistake? Or is it a separate publication with the same title? Thanks -- Mike Christie (talk) 11:37, 22 Dec 2006 (CST)

OK, thanks. I see Al just approved it; I'll leave him a note about the mistaken verification. Mike Christie (talk) 11:49, 22 Dec 2006 (CST)

Multiple cover artists

Hi hi! I see that you have submitted an update for a James Herbert book and a new Firestarter publication. Are the multiple artists listed in the submissions all responsible for the cover art? We only capture cover artists in the "Artists" field at this time. Interior art is entered separately in the Content section. Does this make sense? Thanks! Ahasuerus 16:45, 25 Dec 2006 (CST)

Cover art details

Thanks for the updates! I have added them to the Notes section for both editions :) Ahasuerus 11:17, 26 Dec 2006 (CST)

Anthology contents

How do avoid situations like this, where the same publication is listed twice. It happens when publications are merged.

Actually, you can't merge Publication (i.e. edition) records, you can only delete them. You can merge Titles, though. Ahasuerus 10:52, 4 Jan 2007 (CST)

When entering the contents for a collection, the first entry is for the collection itself. Is it necessary for this to be completed? As it seems to create a duplicate collection in the list of collections, which then needs to be merged and results in the problem above. Unapersson 05:03, 4 Jan 2007 (CST)

When entering a brand new Collection, you don't need to enter the Collection Title in the Content section. The software will create it for you behind the scenes and it won't be displayed in the table of contents after the submission is approved. Instead, it will appear as the "Title Reference" at the top of the page. You won't see the Collection Title when you pull up an existing collection in "Publication Edit" either, but there are ways to get to it and potentially mess things up. For example, if you change the publication type from "Novel" to "Collection" (or vice versa), you can see the Collection record. In this particular case, I recall massaging the data (merging story titles, etc) after you submitted it, so perhaps I inadvertantly caused this problem. Let me see if I can fix it and get back to you. Thanks! Ahasuerus 10:52, 4 Jan 2007 (CST)
OK, I was able to fix the problem by Cloning the Publication and deleting the old one. I'll see if I can recreate this problem and perhaps we can put some extra safeguards in place to prevent it from happening. Also, please note that Series numbers have to be regular Arabic numerals; the software doesn't understand Roman numerals in this context. Thanks! Ahasuerus 11:26, 4 Jan 2007 (CST)

Picture of Evil and Family Portrait

A quick question about Picture of Evil and Family Portrait. You seem to be trying to convert the 1985 version of the title into a variant title of the 1986 version of the title. Normally, the title that was used first is the parent title and any subsequent titles are its "variant titles". One reason why we may sometimes do it the other way is that a later title is clearly better known than the original title. Would you say that that is the case with Picture of Evil and Family Portrait? Or is there some kind of date screwup in the database and the order of publication of these two titles is reversed? Thanks! Ahasuerus 11:40, 4 Jan 2007 (CST)

Thanks for the clarification! These things do happen from time to time, but sometimes editors accidentally flip flop the canonical title and the variant title, so we have to be vigilant and double check anything that looks strange :) I'll go ahead and approve the submission now. Thanks, Ahasuerus 13:40, 4 Jan 2007 (CST)

That's a bug

Yep, that's a bug. I'll report it here. It would be possible to get around this, if you had to, by cloning the publication, deleting the badly formatted ISBN, and then deleting the old version of the pub. However, it's probably easier to just wait for Al to fix this -- he's pretty quick on things that cause python errors or crashes. Thanks for reporting this. Mike Christie (talk) 14:30, 6 Jan 2007 (CST)

Al was even faster than usual on this one; it's now fixed and you should be able to edit it. Mike Christie (talk) 14:52, 6 Jan 2007 (CST)

British currency

I just approved a couple of your submissions and noticed you're using the "40p" format for books priced under a pound. The standard format for UK prices (and US) is to use the $ or £ for prices below 1.00, as well as above, so "40p" should really be £0.40. This is not a big deal, as it will be easy to find and change these, and the format you're using is not ambiguous, but I wanted to let you know the standard. Thanks -- Mike Christie (talk) 05:28, 7 Jan 2007 (CST)

Yes, you can use "3/6" and so on. I suppose a book priced above a pound would be e.g. £1/2/6, but I doubt any books cost that much back then. Mike Christie (talk) 13:46, 7 Jan 2007 (CST)

apologies for the newbie question here but why does the Uk pound sign appear as the letter L on some titles? Should I alter this when i see it if editing a title? Also, is it preferrable to enter only one currency? how do i enter a euro sign if abook is published say, in Ireland or Germany etc? Thomas conneely 18:27, 8 Jan 2007 (CST)

Title merge for Wall of Serpents

I'm looking at your title-merge request for Wall of Serpents and it concerns me as it's quite rare that we would need to merge a shortfiction with a novel. At the moment I see four title records that match "Wall of Serpents"

  1. 1960, NOVEL, The Wall of Serpents (variant title The Enchanter Completed (1980 UK)), no publications
  2. 1979, NOVEL, Wall of Serpents, one publication
  3. 1953, SHORTFICTION, The Wall of Serpents, short story in two collections
  4. 1972, SHORTFICTION, Wall of Serpents, short story in one collection

I could see merging the two novels and the two shortfictions but definately not to merge either of the novel entries with the shortfiction unless you spotted something that I'm missing. Marc Kupper 18:30, 9 Jan 2007 (CST)


Title Merge for The Maker of Moons

I'm looking at your title merge request for The Maker of Moons and again it concerns me as you are merging shortfiction with novels. Please note it's common to have title records for both shortfiction and a longer work format as someone will write a short story and it can then get expanded into a novel of the same title, included in a collection or anthology of the same title, etc. In this case I see four ISFDB records for "Maker of Moons." There's clearly a novel (or more likely a collection) by that name and so we don't want to get rid of that title record. Per Locus there is also a shortfiction by that name (written in 1896) and ISFDB has two title records that may be merge candidates. The last ISFDB title record is for a collection. It's possible the novel is a collection (it's not clear on Amazon if it's a novel or collection and so I'd want to do more digging around before merging these.) Marc Kupper 18:45, 9 Jan 2007 (CST)

Unapersson, I am going to copy/paste and shift the discussion to the ISFDB:Community_Portal as you raised some good points that I'd like feedback from Mike, Ahasuerus, etc. on and at the moment it's hard to follow threads that bounce back and forth between two user-talk pages. Marc Kupper 16:29, 10 Jan 2007 (CST)

Books of Blood, Volume I

Regarding your addition of Books of Blood, Volume I. You have the note "Many of the reprint editions do not include the publication year and simply say published in 1985." but yet also gave a published date of "1984-00-00." I'm confused. If your publication does not state a published date for the edition you have then use 0000-00-00. Usually when I do this I also add a note explaining in detail what is, and is not said on the copyright page. For example, see The Ultimate Weapon which I just added. Marc Kupper 17:51, 24 Jan 2007 (CST)

In defence of Unapersson, I have to say that if we followed the current rules exactly then many British publications will have one definitive first publication date (if we're lucky!) and a dozen 0000-00-00 reprints. Having just acquired old editions of the first three "Books of Blood" today, I think the approach of "Give best date you can, and all notes you can" is probably better than current rules. I've added my pubs, and in a couple of cases where mine predated Unapersson's I think we've established reasonable dates: on the other we have verified pubs with different details of how many reprints there were in one particular year. I'd rather we had "near" dates with notes rather than a huge number of 0000-00-00 ones to look at, but let's take it to Community Portal discussion if needed. BLongley 21:38, 21 Apr 2007 (CDT)

Land of Laughs

Can you tell me the reasoning behind your title merge of "Land of Laughs" with "The Land of Laughs", making "Land of Laughs" the resulting title? I did some research and I can't find any that are titled "Land of Laughs"; my own copy is "The Land of Laughs". Was this just a slip of the mouse? Mike Christie (talk) 18:42, 26 Jan 2007 (CST)

OK, I rejected that sub -- go ahead and resubmit the right way round if you haven't already. Mike Christie (talk) 21:09, 29 Jan 2007 (CST)

Corum

re: the omnibus you added - [Corum. I noticed there is already a title record for Corum: The Coming of Chaos and suspect the new title record you created can be merged with this one. Normally you would first look up the title the publication belongs under and use "add new publication for this title" which saves you from needing to do the extra merge.

The "The Coming of Chaos" part in the existing title record seems like a sub-title that can be removed as we generally do not use sub-titles in title records. We do include sub-titles in publication records though.

I'm not familiar with the "Corum" works but in looking at Moorcock's page it looks like "Corum" is

  1. a series called Corum that contains two Corum related sub-series
  2. a series called "The Tale of the Eternal Champion (White Wolf)" that contains the omnibus "Corum." This does not seem right and I believe this omnibus should be in the “The Swords of Corum” series.
  3. down in Collections is The Chronicles of Corum which probabably belongs in one of the series.
  4. down in Omnibus is Corum whish is the one you added.

Are you working on Moorcock by chance? I just did some obvious title merges and moved a couple of things into the right series but imagine the bibliography needs a bunch of TLC. Marc Kupper 17:27, 27 Jan 2007 (CST)

I have shifted the thread to ISFDB:Community_Portal#Moorckock.E2.80.99s_Corum_and_dealing_with_ISFDB_title_records as it seems like an issue where community input would be useful. Marc Kupper 13:53, 29 Jan 2007 (CST)

Count Brass

I am looking at the proposed deletion of the following Publication: 

Count Brass
Tag 	CNTBRS1993
Year 	1993-00-00
Publisher 	Millennium
Pages 	340
Binding 	tp
PubType 	OMNIBUS
Isbn 	1857980506
Price 	$10.99

and wondering if it's a duplicate since I see another Publication with the same ISBN on file. Could you please clarify if that was the intent? Thanks! Ahasuerus 18:59, 1 Feb 2007 (CST)

Ah, I see! Sure, it makes sense and I have approved the submission. We used to have an "Unmerge" option which would take all editions of a book and create separate titles for them, but it proved to be buggy and was temporarily taken out. Hopefully it will be fixed and make a reappearance soon :) Ahasuerus 13:26, 2 Feb 2007 (CST)

Lovecraft's revisions

Hi! I see that you have entered a Derleth-edited collection/anthology of stories revised by Lovecraft. I recall that HPL actually rewrote many of them, but I don't have the book here to check. I was wondering if you could read Derleth's intro and determine whether these stories need to be made into variant titles "by XYZ and H. P. Lovecraft"? Thanks! Ahasuerus 11:04, 30 Jan 2007 (CST)

There are two steps that need to be taken in cases of ghost written stories and stories with uncredited collaborators. The first step is to do what I believe you have done so far and enter the stories as they are credited in the book. Once the submission is approved, it will create a Title record for each story. The second step is to pull up each resulting Title record, click on the "Make This Title a Variant Title or Pseudonymous Work" option in the navigation bar and use the lower half of the form. You can then enter the real author(s) while keeping the title and year information the same as already entered. When each submission (one per story) is approved, the software creates a new Title record under the real author(s)' name(s) and also creates a link between the two titles. The result is for each uncredited collaborations Lovecraft's summary bibliography will display the following line: 
Title A (1927) (with Joe Author) (as by Joe Author)
and for ghost written titles it will display: 
Title B (1928) (as by Jane Author)
If a story was completely rewritten, then I think it makes more sense to list Lovecraft as an uncredited collaborator rather than as a ghost writer. That way the nature of the relationship between the two "co-authors" will be presumably made more clear. Does this make sense? Thanks! Ahasuerus 16:28, 1 Feb 2007 (CST)

Boris Karloff's anthology

Hi! You have submitted "The Boris Karloff Horror Anthology" as a clone of "Boris Karloff's Favorite Horror Stories". Although the two books contain the same stories, they have two separate titles, so one will have to be made into a Variant Title of the other. Unfortunately, the only way to do this is to use the "New Anthology" option, enter all contents by hand, wait for it to be approved and then manually merge all stories with the existing story Titles -- which is obviously a huge pain.

We used to have the ability to "unmerge" titles, which would make this task much easier: just clone an existing publication (as you have already done), then use Unmerge to split it off into a separate Title and then make that Title into a Variant Tile of the original Title.

Unfortunately, the Unmerge functionality led to problems in some special cases and has been taken off line. Hopefully, it will come back soon once it has been fixed. I am tempted to approve the submission and make a note for myself to use Unmerge on it when Unmerge is again available, but let me think about it and perhaps discuss the ramification over on the Community Portal :) Ahasuerus 19:02, 2 Feb 2007 (CST)

Nomination for moderatorship

I'd like to nominate you to be a moderator. Are you interested? If so, let me know (here or on my talk page) and I'll post a note at the Community Portal for discussion of the nomination. We have no process yet for reviewing nominations, so we'll probably work that out as we go along. Two pages you might want to look at are Moderator Qualifications and Help:Screen:Moderator. Thanks -- Mike Christie (talk) 13:10, 3 Feb 2007 (CST)

I've read through the supporting documentation and would be happy to do it if accepted. I'll stay away from approving the more intrusive edits until I'm sure I know things inside out. --Unapersson 13:30, 3 Feb 2007 (CST)

Glad to hear it. I'll post a note at the CP and we'll see what people say. Mike Christie (talk) 13:36, 3 Feb 2007 (CST)

The Time Dweller

Hi -- I was just entering my Moorcock books, since I know you're working on that biblio, and I noticed that you had verified this pub. It gives five of the stories being by pseudonyms; I wondered if perhaps this was an oversight on your part. The stories in my copy (this pub) are all listed as by Michael Moorcock; some were certainly published elsewhere under pseudonyms, but this publication doesn't use the pseudonym. So unless I'm missing something, I think these should be as by "Michael Moorcock", with the other titles being variants. Does that make sense? Mike Christie (talk) 12:23, 5 Feb 2007 (CST)

My Experiences in the Third World War

Another Moorcock question. Same as above, for "The Time Dweller"; this pub has the same issue. I actually have a copy of this one, so I took a look. Here's what I'd do -- I'll wait to hear from you before I make these changes, or you can if you wish (or talk me out of them).

  • I'd add a title note to this title explaining it's a comic strip. Maybe it should also be changed to fiction -- ESSAY implies non-fiction, and I think that's more misleading than saying SHORTFICTION.
  • I'd remove the pseudonymous titles, and replace them with ones as by "Michael Moorcock". The titles that are there now would be made variants of the new ones.
  • There are two interior illustrations, pages 19 and 35. I'd enter these as INTERIORART, with a title of the story they're in, and an author of "uncredited", unless you recognize the artist.

I've now entered everything I have by Moorcock in book form. I still have a lot of anthologies and magazines of his to enter, and of course his shortfiction is distributed everywhere. However, I hope you find the additional verifications useful. If you'd like me to dig out printing date histories from any of the later printings I have, just let me know -- I've found these useful to track reprints. I don't know if you care about detail below the edition level, but see Author:Ursula K. Le Guin#A Wizard of Earthsea for an example of how I'm using them. Mike Christie (talk) 21:38, 5 Feb 2007 (CST)

Moderator status

You are now a moderator. Congratulations; ask any of the existing moderators if you have any questions. We all look forward to having an extra helping hand. Mike Christie (talk) 22:05, 6 Feb 2007 (CST)

Thanks Mike, I look forward to piling in. I've been having problems with my internet access over the last few days but should be back up and running again soon. I may just need to get a new router. It's been up and down for days at a time since xmas and haven't have much luck with the ISP diagnosing the problem. --Unapersson 09:22, 8 Feb 2007 (CST)

Oops - The Final Programme

You did a clone of The Final Programme which I accidenially approved and in doing so noticed your name as the screen was changing... Marc Kupper (talk)

That's not a problem. I'll just go back and double check I verified it. --Unapersson 17:35, 22 Feb 2007 (CST)

Best SF Novellas of the Year 1

I see you're trying to delete one of these two duplicates, but the one you're trying to delete has Award data associated with it. Is the longer title with "Science Fiction" written out in full and "#1" what actually appears on the title page of the book? --Unapersson 15:22, 25 Feb 2007 (CST)

I have the actual book, and on both the title page and the cover "Science Fiction" is spelled out completely. There is also a # before 1 in both instances as well. Mhhutchins 17:50, 25 Feb 2007 (CST)
Thanks. I'll let the delete go through, then see what we need to do to ratify the award data. --Unapersson 17:58, 25 Feb 2007 (CST)

Chalker's "Forty Days..."

Thanks for the reminder about the bug in the Moderator Approval screen, that's exactly what it was! The record is feeling much better now :) Ahasuerus 02:21, 26 Feb 2007 (CST)

A Cure for Cancer

Hi -- I just noticed that the copy of "A Cure for Cancer" which I verified per this discussion is still at the 70p price. I assume this should be duplicated so you can verify a 70p pub and I can verify the 75p one; I didn't want to do this without checking with you as I know you're keeping an eye on the Moorcock biblio. Let me know if you want me to do it. Mike Christie (talk) 18:45, 5 Mar 2007 (CST)

Mike, yes go ahead and create the clone. I had no idea they were so duplicious with these Fontana editions. I always thought they were single printings. Interesting what you can find out once you start comparing the actual physical copies. I suspect they kept the interiors and just redid the cover to increase the price. I noticed earlier that the White Wolf TP edition of Kane of Old Mars has the hardcover content, including the ISBN etc. The only differences in the cover itself. --Unapersson 10:36, 6 Mar 2007 (CST)

Tombs anthology

Hi, can you please double check the publication date of Tombs. Several sources (including Contento and Locus) indicate the publication date as June, 1995. Thanks. Mhhutchins 17:54, 19 Mar 2007 (CDT)

--Unapersson 05:03, 9 Apr 2007 (CDT)==Thackery T. Lambshead Pocket Guide== I have NO idea how it qualifies as SF, but you have claimed credit for "The Thackery T. Lambshead Pocket Guide to Eccentric and Discredited Diseases" so it's YOUR problem! ;-) There appear to be two entries for "Fungal Disenchantment", on different pages: can you please delete the duplicate or add a note to explain the difference please? I shall now go put on my rubber gloves and douse myself in Dettol and scrub my eyeballs and vow never to look at your edits without peril-sensitive sunglasses... ;-) BLongley 18:26, 5 Apr 2007 (CDT)

It's SF, Fantasy and Horror :-) That did not make it any easier to type in! Good call on that duplicate, the one on page 86 should be interior art so I've fixed it. --Unapersson 04:34, 6 Apr 2007 (CDT)

Just checking: Is Turbot's Syndrome by Paulo Di Filippo or by Paul Di Filippo? (I may have to find a copy of this book to read...) --WimLewis 01:35, 8 Apr 2007 (CDT) ? While I'm at it: Chronic Zygotic Dermis Disorder: Eliot or Elliot Fintushel?

It's by Paulo G. Di Filippo, e.g. a pseudonym. Silly names are used for lots of them, but that's the only one that gets used on the contributors list. For Fintushel it's two l's on the contributors index, but one l in the story itself. So I'll change it to the latter as that is probably just a typo in the contributors list. --Unapersson 04:56, 8 Apr 2007 (CDT)
Hm. So I guess we should make Paulo be a vt and pseudonym for Paul? --WimLewis 01:15, 9 Apr 2007 (CDT)
The variant title/author references should all be in place now. --Unapersson 05:03, 9 Apr 2007 (CDT)

Travails of Jane Saint

My copy of this pub 124321 has an extra story, The Pollyanna Enzyme. The other page numbers and total page count are the same as the ISFDB entry, so I added the title to the pub, but could you verify that your copy has this title too? --WimLewis 01:15, 9 Apr 2007 (CDT)

Yes it does, and I could have sworn I'd entered it. There only a handful of stories in that book. Very strange. Thanks for noticing/fixing. --Unapersson 04:57, 9 Apr 2007 (CDT)

Punctuation of a Lupoff story title

I see you have verified The New Lovecraft Circle, so if you still have access to your copy, could you check the story you have as "Lights! Camera! Shub-Niggurath!"? I've just entered a similar title: "Lights! Camera!! Shub-Niggurath!!!", and I'd like to know whether this is a variant title. (Scott Latham 16:16, 10 Apr 2007 (CDT))

Yes, it's as I entered it. Robert M. Price is clearly more grammatically correct :-) --Unapersson 16:26, 10 Apr 2007 (CDT)

The Tomb and Other Stories

Can you please double check this pub and see if the story is "The Descendent" or "The Descendant"? BLongley 08:49, 13 Apr 2007 (CDT)

It is in as "The Descendant" in my copy. I'll fix it and merge it with your version. I wonder if it's a variant or if the others are just typos. Fixed the one in Dagon and Other Macabre tales as well, that just leaves three. --Unapersson 13:58, 13 Apr 2007 (CDT)

Across The Nightingale Floor, Lian Hearn

Sorry to jog your elbow again, but you've verified this publication. It is classed as an Omnibus, like all the others on the page, but not a one has any contents. I started to enter my copy, but to my eye it seems to be a garden-variety novel. Can you shed any light? (Scott Latham 20:52, 17 Apr 2007 (CDT))

It would appear that it may be related to its subsequent appearance in two separate valumes: Across the Nightingale Floor Episode 1 and Across the Nightingale Floor Episode 2. Ahasuerus 22:51, 17 Apr 2007 (CDT)
The problem is the dates: an Omnibus reprints two or more titles previously published separately. What seems to have happened here is that there was an initial publication of a title subsequently reissued iin two parts. It's an unusual situation, but I'd be tempted to designate the first publication as a Novel, with the subsequent (Episode 1 and 2) publications as Variant Titles. (Scott Latham 10:38, 18 Apr 2007 (CDT))
Oh yes, "single volume later split up by publishers into 2+ parts" is a known and annoying issue. As our help pages state:
  • If a book is packaged as a single volume work, and then republished as a multi-volume work, all the publications are novels; there is no need to classify the single volume work as an omnibus.
Unfortunately, it makes it look really messed up in Series display :( Ahasuerus 11:08, 18 Apr 2007 (CDT)
My copy is definitely a novel. I probably just did an add pub and didn't notice the type was set as omnibus. If it was an omnibus I would have added the contents. --Unapersson 17:37, 18 Apr 2007 (CDT)

Seas of Fate

Can you doublecheck this pub please, as the title doesn't seem to match the cover-image, or indeed any of the other pubs? BLongley 15:55, 21 Apr 2007 (CDT)

That's fixed. I must have missed the typo when I was verifying it. It's not one I entered as I don't normally do cover images. At least not until there's somewhere to upload all the ones I've got stored on the hard drive. --Unapersson 16:02, 21 Apr 2007 (CDT)
Ta muchly! I've been revisiting my past mistakes as a newbie editor, and keep wondering how I made it to mod... but I guess nobody's perfect. :-/ I do worry about stomping on verified pubs without checking though. BLongley 21:14, 21 Apr 2007 (CDT)
Oh yes indeed. I've been glad to be able to go back and fix some of my past mistakes, while firmly slapping the forehead at the same time. Some of it is due to assumptions you can make early on that turn out to be completely not the case. On the road to enlightenment you have to unlearn as much as you have learnt :-) --Unapersson 01:43, 22 Apr 2007 (CDT)

BTW, Congratulations on Joining the 1,000 Club

I just noticed you've done your thousandth verification - well done! (Scott Latham 20:05, 29 Apr 2007 (CDT))

From Other Worlds

When you get a chance, could you please double check whether Kendall Foster Crossen's middle name is really spelled "Foste" in this book? Thanks! Ahasuerus 14:26, 11 May 2007 (CDT)

No it is Foster. It's got no title page so you have to search the book to find the contents. I may have merged it with the original when I entered it, not realising the other entry has a possible typo. I normally verify before I go back and merge the titles / create variants etc. so I'm looking at the pure contents. --Unapersson 16:02, 11 May 2007 (CDT)
Thanks! I have confirmed with Worldcat that the author's name was spelled with an "r" in the 1952 edition as well and then changed the attribution accordingly. Ahasuerus 16:06, 11 May 2007 (CDT)

The Genocides

Can you correct the page count for the edition you verified please? BLongley 14:30, 13 May 2007 (CDT)

That's done, but makes no sense whatsoever, even if I was having a very bad day. --Unapersson 15:37, 13 May 2007 (CDT)
My usual bad days are pasting the URL for the front-cover image into the front-cover artist field. I'm sure my edit count is 5% higher than it really deserves because of that. :-/ Still, as I always use "View this Pub" when it appears, I tend to catch my own mistakes. BLongley 16:48, 13 May 2007 (CDT)
Ah yes, I've done that one before, but normally catch myself in time. --Unapersson 17:10, 13 May 2007 (CDT)

The Interpreter by Brian W. Aldiss

Another bad day? "Publisher: 0-450-01457-6" doesn't look right. BLongley 16:39, 25 May 2007 (CDT)

That one's OK now. If you see little ones like that which are obviously wrong just fix them (if you have the book to hand). That's what I normally do, avoids the lag. I've even added a full contents list to verified "novels" before. --Unapersson 05:00, 26 May 2007 (CDT)
Noted. I don't in this case, I was just adding another pub to the title based on a note from the Josh Kirby art book. BLongley 07:12, 26 May 2007 (CDT)

Crossen in From Other Worlds (ed. Derlerth)

Could you take another look at the Crossen story. The original magazine appearance is credited to Kendell (not Kendall) Foster Crossen in ISFDB. If it is mispelled I have made Kendall Foster Crossen a psuedonym since there is little reason to believe they are not the same person. There is at least one magazine where the name was spelled Kendall and I own a copy of it. In either case, once it is dealt with, the story can be merged on the primary Crossen page. Hope you are having a nice Memorial Day. Just noticed there is another talk about this book. Looks like it needed a better publisher.--Swfritter 12:35, 28 May 2007 (CDT)

It's entered as both, Kendall on the copyright page and Kendell on the title page of the story itself. So it's probably best to change it to Kendell. --Unapersson 13:06, 28 May 2007 (CDT)

Algernon Blackwood collection

Can you double check this edition and verify the title of the second story? Should it be "First Hate"? Mhhutchins 17:48, 30 May 2007 (CDT)

Yes it is hate. I've corrected it. I thought I'd be able to merge it but looks like a lot of the Blackwood collections don't have contents listed yet. --Unapersson 16:59, 31 May 2007 (CDT)

The Bane of the Black Sword

You verified The Bane of the Black Sword THBNFTHBLC0000. I have a couple of questions about it.

  1. Can you please re-check the ISBN and or cover price? I would have expected 0-87997-316-1 is $1.25 and 0-87997-421-4 is $1.50 but you have 0-87997-316-1 $1.50.
  2. Is the DAW No. stated as 254? It's probably in the yellow box in the upper-right corner of the front cover.
  3. Also in or near the yellow box does it state UY1316 or UW1421?
  4. Is the ISBN a single line on the spine 0-87997-421-4 150?
  5. Is the copyright 1977?
  6. Exactly how is the first printing and the number line worded? Is it "First Printing, August 1977 / 3 4 5 6 7 8 9"? (I guessed 3rd printing as you did not state which is is).
  7. Is it Printed in USA (at the bottom of copyright page)
  8. Finally - there is a cover scan of the 1st printing at [1] but I can't quite read what it says under the title in red. It looks like "The 5th ??? in Elric of Melniboné". What's the word after 5th and is the rest accurate?

TIA! Marc Kupper (talk) 22:40, 4 Jun 2007 (CDT)

I'll try and dig it out tomorrow and have a look. --Unapersson 18:07, 5 Jun 2007 (CDT)

The Oxford Book of Fantasy Stories

I've held this submission although it looks correct: I own a copy myself and this image looks fine, but I'm a bit worried about Brin1's recent edits adding the wrong cover-art to one of MY verified pubs, so I'd like to start a mod-level discussion about when it's OK to add things to verified pubs or not. Feel free to approve it anyway. BLongley 15:58, 6 Jun 2007 (CDT)

New Worlds for Old

Please comment on User_talk:Hall3730#New_Worlds_for_Old and which is a pub-update to something you verified. Thank you. Marc Kupper (talk) 06:02, 7 Jun 2007 (CDT)

The Lost Travel(l)er

Can you double-check the number of "L"s in this pub please? BLongley 15:35, 25 Jun 2007 (CDT)

You win this round. Mine was a duplicate, so I've sent it to /dev/null. I can't believe I missed the two l thing, as that's one of my pet peeves. I hate the one l spelling :-) Clearly it causes me so much psychological trauma that I've started mentally blocking it out. --Unapersson 17:24, 3 Jul 2007 (CDT)
I read so many American publications that I lose track of what my peeve is about at times! I'm still pretty sure about "Grey/Gray" variants (although I've seen "Gray" on British editions now :-( ) and "Color/Colour" but I am now very confused about "-ize" versus "-ise". It used to be so easy to taunt the Americans with offers of missing "U"s - OK, I can usually still do that - but the Z/S switch might be a sneaky fight-back against the Queen's English... ;-) And I'll always have my favourite peeve over apostrophes, so I can remain a grumpy old man indefinitely. :-) BLongley 17:54, 3 Jul 2007 (CDT)
Have you looked at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/-ize#-ise_.2F_-ize recently? :) Ahasuerus 18:33, 3 Jul 2007 (CDT)
No - I think I'll let the Firefox spell-checker deal with that for the moment until I come down with a definitive opinion. I've survived my trip to St James's Park (apostrophe and/or second "s" arguable) underground/tube station (terminology arguable), to visit New Scotland Yard ("New" questionable), and am still debating about the "alternative train service" that involved walking for forty-five minutes on my way back home. Still, I survived the ordeal, and may even have appeared on CNN or a few other foreign TV channels as "man walking by looking nervous". I DO have a "MIB Visitor" souvenir now, so that's going to look cool tomorrow! :-) BLongley 18:50, 3 Jul 2007 (CDT)

Spell of the Witch World

Hi. You verified Spell of the Witch World. I have a copy of the book and it differs in some details from the publication record that you verified. Being a newbie on ISFDB, I am unsure what to do now. Maybe I really have a different publication in front of me, but first I would like to double-check with you before I do anything rash :-) Can you please help me with the following questions?

  1. The publication record states (in the Notes field) that it is a third printing. Where does it say so on your copy of the book? I cannot find any hint about the printing anywhere in my book, but maybe I am missing something.
  2. The publication record does not have an artist reference. However, on the verso of the title page of my book there is a sentence "Cover and interior art by Jack Gaughan." Do you have that sentence, too?
  3. The publication record lists the content in a different order than they appear in my book. I have "Dragon Scale Silver", followed by "Dream Smith" and finally "Amber out of Quayth". Do you have the same order? Or does the ISFDB software simply list publication content in alphabetical order?

Maybe the following helps to determine whether we have the same or different publications:

  • Does your copy have this cover illustration?
  • Does your copy have an advertisement in between pages 96 and 97? My copy has one, it's about Kent cigarettes.

Thanks for your help. Herzbube 18:50, 1 Jul 2007 (CDT)

I can't answer the first two, but as Unapersson seems a bit quiet at the moment, I can help with the third: you have to enter the page numbers to get the entries into the right order, the lack of them in this publication means you can't imply anything about the order in his edition. BLongley 14:16, 2 Jul 2007 (CDT)
To address the first question, are you familiar with what they call "the number line" in the industry? There is an explanation in our archives, which we hope to convert to a proper Help page soonish. Ahasuerus 14:27, 2 Jul 2007 (CDT)
My first idea what the "number line" is came from [this help screen page]. Nice and simple. The archived explanation that you point out is much more frightening, and I am glad that the book I have here has no number line, so I don't have to think about it :-) Thanks anyway for the link, it's in my bookmarks now. Herzbube 18:39, 3 Jul 2007 (CDT)
And another thing it took me a while to find that you may not have encountered yet - Daw actually has quite a good publisher section here. BLongley 14:35, 2 Jul 2007 (CDT)
Massive. Thanks for the pointer, good to know for future edits! Herzbube 18:39, 3 Jul 2007 (CDT)
I am still around. Just had a few days sick last week and spent a couple evenings trying to fix a half upgraded remove Linux server. I'll catch up in a few days. --Unapersson 15:52, 2 Jul 2007 (CDT)
Welcome back, you've been missed! BLongley 16:10, 2 Jul 2007 (CDT)

The Quest for Tanelorn

Just a heads-up that I've added the coverart for your verified pub if you'd like to double-check it. BLongley 10:44, 8 Jul 2007 (CDT) Also An Alien Heat. BLongley 12:09, 8 Jul 2007 (CDT)

Great, those both look fine. I'm gearing up to start a cover art push soon. Just coding up a local application first to help me. --Unapersson 14:00, 8 Jul 2007 (CDT)
Oh, interesting! What kind? I've got my manual methods pretty well sorted now, but anything that would, for instance, check all possible Amazon titles on the various sites that already have cover-art or customer images before I go look would help. Or something that would copy my lazy upload to the US site (for quick publishing) back to the UK site where a British publication really belongs, would be good. BLongley 14:36, 8 Jul 2007 (CDT)
I'd written some SQL to get a list of publications I'd verified from a local copy of the ISFDB. I was then going to use that info to generate a local page linking to my verified pubs. I got caught up in plan B though. So I've written three bookmarklets that I can use when on an edit screen. It will insert a link to the pub in the image field and open a window with the image at the same time so I can double check it has picked up the correct image. I've got it working on my N800 as well, which means I'll be able to verify at my shelves rather than carrying piles of books up and downstairs as I was doing. I'll just need to carry down smaller piles of books to scan. I'm also running Conduit to sync a local directory with my web server when I save some scanned images. At the moment I'm scanning and saving two copies at different sizes, so I may also do an inotify based program to automatically create the smaller image when the larger one is saved. --Unapersson 07:21, 9 Sep 2007 (CDT)
Also, The Blood-Red Game. BLongley 15:49, 8 Jul 2007 (CDT)
And The Winds of Limbo. BLongley 16:26, 8 Jul 2007 (CDT)
And The Ice Schooner - but I've added some more notes too, please check this one at least. BLongley 16:59, 8 Jul 2007 (CDT)
And Phoenix in Obsidian. BLongley 17:08, 8 Jul 2007 (CDT)

We do seem to overlap a lot: we should each hire a van, take all our books to a neutral playing ground, and try the world's biggest game of "SNAP!" sometime. ;-) BLongley

So I wasn't just imagining it then? They look fine but I'll dig out The Ice Schooner. I think I've got all the Sphere editions of that one, they had a different cover with every reprint. --Unapersson 17:21, 8 Jul 2007 (CDT)

Behold the Man

I did some minor edits to your verified pub Behold the Man.

  • Added cover image
  • Added publication notes
    • 3rd printing – The copyright page states “First Avon Printing, May, 1970 / Third Printing, November, 1972.”
    • The cover artist is not credited. A signature is visible on the back cover but I can't quite figure out a name that matches an existing artist in ISFDB. It looks like “r. Catir”. Marc Kupper (talk) 01:37, 16 Jul 2007 (CDT)
That all looks fine, not sure about the signature either. It looks like M. Carter to me, but nothing seems to match in the db. It's not exactly an uncommon image so may not be a genre artist. --Unapersson 16:40, 30 Jul 2007 (CDT)

The Revenge of the Rose

Could you please double-check whether the sub-title of this pub really is "A Tale of the Albino in the Years of His Wandering". Looking at my 1992 Grafton paperback edition, I suspect that it should be "A Tale of the Albino Prince in the Years of His Wandering". The bit of research I did (worldcat, fantasticfiction, multiverse.org) seems to point in the same direction: Almost all sources that list the sub-title do so with the word "Prince" in it - the only notable exception is locusmag.com. Thank you. Herzbube 15:52, 16 Jul 2007 (CDT)

ISFDB Moderator e-mail

Unapersson - I don't have your e-mail handy but am setting up an e-mail account so that people can contact the moderators as a group to help with things such as wiki-blocks. Can you please contact me via http://marc.kupper.googlepages.com/contact and I'll forward the e-mail to you that I've already sent to those moderators for who I know their e-mail address? Thank you. Marc Kupper (talk) 16:25, 19 Jul 2007 (CDT)

New Worlds March 1966

You've verified this one but left this other one alone - would you care to compare both, save the useful info, and delete the spare please? BLongley 08:32, 22 Jul 2007 (CDT)

This dates from a time when I really struggled to find magazines using the search and probably added a few duplicates. I'd merged them all under the one title a more recently but haven't had the chance to revisit them since. I'll pick that up again as part of looking over the Moorcock page. --Unapersson 16:42, 22 Jul 2007 (CDT)
No hurry, I'm a bit tired of New Worlds myself - I just tidied up a few year's worth of Carnell magazines today and thought I'd better finish off the remaining Moorcock era ones. I think I only have ONE as a physical edition. BLongley 17:02, 22 Jul 2007 (CDT)

E. Hoffmann Price

A quick question about E. Hoffmann Price. You have verified two publications where Price's name is spelled with one "n": Skull-Face Omnibus: Volume 1: Skull-Face and Others and The Howard Collector. Could you please double check the spelling? Thanks! Ahasuerus 17:38, 30 Jul 2007 (CDT)

That's tidied up. No matter how many times I see that name it still looks wrong with the two nn's so I'm constantly mistyping it. --Unapersson 15:50, 7 Aug 2007 (CDT)

The War Lord of the Air

Another image check please? Just to prove there IS a Space in "War Lord". BLongley 16:11, 14 Aug 2007 (CDT)

A Cure for Cancer

And does your cheap pub look like mine with the extra silver? ;-) BLongley 16:16, 14 Aug 2007 (CDT)

Indoctrinaire

OK? BLongley 13:12, 15 Aug 2007 (CDT)

Against a Dark Background

Is the art on your verified pub right? That looks like the current edition rather than a 1995 one. Note that I didn't put it there, but Amazon may have switched the image on us. :-/ BLongley 16:01, 18 Aug 2007 (CDT)

That's definitely wrong. I'll update the image with the recent batch I've been doing. --Unapersson 04:09, 19 Aug 2007 (CDT)
Oh, and is it really "pb" or "tp"? I don't think I've ever seen a British edition paperback of his in proper paperback size - that put me off buying his works for years. He's currently lucky in that the "A-B" bookcase can cope with that size for the moment. If he was destined for the "P", "R" or "S" bookcases I wouldn't have bought any of his titles today, they wouldn't fit here. BLongley 16:01, 18 Aug 2007 (CDT)
It's a tp. I too have a special shelf for those, Angela Carter, Iain (M.) Banks, Peter Ackroyd, Jonathan Carroll etc. They all seem to come in that slightly bigger / slimmer size.
Your cover references above look fine. I can confirm Indoctrinaire, but need to dig the others out before I can confirm those. --Unapersson 04:09, 19 Aug 2007 (CDT)

More covers

The Rituals of Infinity, Inversions, The Dark Light Years, Best of British SF 2. BLongley 13:15, 20 Aug 2007 (CDT)

Moorcock's Book of Martyrs

I'm a bit suspicious of your verified pub and the Quartet one the same year - I think I have the same edition as you (see cover-art I added) but I think they may refer to the same publication, see notes. Are there references to Quartet in your pub too? BLongley 11:29, 27 Aug 2007 (CDT)

I always thought the rule was the favour the imprint, so I'll normally put that rather than the publisher in cases like this. And will favour what's on the spine rather than the title page as the same content can go through several imprints, and though they change the copyright date they'll often refer to the old publisher name within (i.e. Mayflower in the Granada pubs). Not usual with Moorcock books which seem to have lots of reprints and make it through lots of publisher changes. At least until Murdoch took over HarperCollins. You could mention all the different publisher names mentioned within a pub, but I think it just looks messy when displayed.
I've got lots of the Orbit/Sphere/Quartet books. Moorcock, REH and others, and the imprint logo on the spine shows the transitions than what's stated inside. I'm looking forward to seeing a global titles ordered by date view, where all the Orbits, Sphere, Mayflower, etc. transitions are all neatly aligned.
As I review these I'll note any conflicts in the notes section.
This goes back to when I was a twelve year old ordering the Elric novels from a book shop. I was asked who the publisher was, and slightly confused, said Grafton or Granada. At which point, the woman in the bookshop said they were the same thing. I'm sure there's some fascinating story behind it all, but it makes things more complicated. I see it a lot like waring empires, with the victor wiping out all references to the original empire.

--Unapersson 13:42, 27 Aug 2007 (CDT)

I keep meaning, when I've run out of primary verifications to do, or cover-art to scan, to research and then explain British publishers' imprints to the rest of the world here. Grafton/Granada is one of the simpler ones! But as I'm having so many troubles with Pocket/Archway, Corgi/Bantam, etc, I'm not sure if I can ever even get a good start on my own. I think I'll start with early Puffin/Penguin/Pelican and such-like: Target Books: Tandem or Universal-Tandem: Orbit and Sphere early days: it SHOULD be possible to explain which companies owned which imprints for which times, I think? Amazon almost HELPS us by back-dating publisher's current ISBN ranges back to the current parent company. BLongley 14:24, 27 Aug 2007 (CDT)
Although I suspect, judging by the latest hundred acquisitions or so this weekend (I succeeded in finding four out of five attempted car-boot sales) I may still avoid the problem a bit longer - I'm a master of procrastination in some ways. I'm already regretting NOT going back to the lady that sold me half-a-dozen Moorcocks at 20p each, that I knocked-down to six-for-a quid: I suspect I could have had the remaining two-dozen books for another quid or two at most. Easily justified for "upgrading" my previous grotty editions, they were near-pristine copies as opposed to mine: but I'm going to have to start SELLING my spares at some point, I've run out of book-cases. :-( BLongley 14:24, 27 Aug 2007 (CDT)
I'm having to seriously think about my collection these days. We've got a two bedroom house, two kids and only so much space. I must have got at least six copies of The Ice Schooner for instance! --Unapersson 14:39, 27 Aug 2007 (CDT)
I'm only in a two bedroom house, without a wife or kids, so my needs aren't SO pressing. Except that I can trip over books in the living room, dining room, bathroom, and am GUARANTEED to do so in the so-called second bedroom. And now I realise that I've just left a note to the cleaner to move the video-cassettes to the shelves in the bedroom so I can fill the spaces with books... damn, I must be close to bursting! I must get rid of those pesky cook-books, there's room in the kitchen still... ;-) BLongley 15:33, 27 Aug 2007 (CDT)
As a point of reference, a single 72" bookcase, properly double-stacked with hc's and tp's (bottom 50%) and pb's (top 50%), will hold about 850 books. This assumes that (a) you don't mix formats, which wastes a lot of space, and (b) you have all books cataloged and labeled, otherwise the second row of stacks is as good as gone. Also keep in mind that "minimaxed" bookcases can be quite heavy, so putting too many of them in the same room on the second/third floor can be iffy. Ahasuerus 22:04, 27 Aug 2007 (CDT)
I have very few hardbacks (too bulky), and even fewer trade paperbacks (which seems to combine the worst aspects of hardbacks and paperbacks). And most of my bookcases are still as designed, i.e. wasting a lot of space. I added an extra shelf to a couple where there were enough pre-prepared holes allowing it to be done simply, but really all of them could do with some adjustment. I'm into double-stacking now, which is a pain, but I don't actually have enough floor-space to do any carpentry! And they're not book-cases I'll keep long-term anyway - when I do settle down somewhere more permanent I can do floor to-ceiling shelving, maybe with a sliding set of shelves in front if I need to double-stack... ah well, time to search the property pages for a spare Nuclear Bunker again, there's been quite a few around at reasonable prices in past years and with the recent floods a perfectly-sealed underground environment may be better than a not-far-enough-above-ground one. BLongley 14:08, 28 Aug 2007 (CDT)

NEL hc edition of The Golden Barge

I added a couple of items (price and cover artist) to your verified edition of this title based on the 10/83 Locus listing. Please check to see if they're the same as your copy. Thanks. Mhhutchins 08:51, 29 Aug 2007 (CDT)

Mine's an ex-library copy, if those fields aren't completed it's probably because they were obscured in my copy. --Unapersson 12:43, 30 Aug 2007 (CDT)

Authorship of The Shadow Out of Space

You verified the The Survivor and Others so I hope you might have it handy. That collection entry does not show August Derleth as a co-author. When The Shadow Out of Space was republished in the February 1962 issue of Fantastic it was published under both Lovecraft's and Derleth's names and Moskowitz specifically states that Derleth wrote the story from Lovecraft's notes. Is there anything in the collection to indicate that Lovecraft was the only author? The Lovecraft/Derleth authorship issue is a confused mess.--swfritter 11:55, 5 Sep 2007 (CDT)

Thanks. I think there are two stories and other sources indicate that all the stories are collaborations.--swfritter 09:47, 11 Sep 2007 (CDT)

New Worlds 10

I messed about with your verified New Worlds 10 quite a bit. Cover-art, of course, but also added pagination (I presume this was an early verification?), corrected some typos, and then wandered off into Author Data so I can't quite remember the details. :-/ It might be worth another look if you have it handy. BLongley 17:06, 11 Sep 2007 (CDT)

Worms of the Earth

Correct Cover? BLongley 15:01, 4 Oct 2007 (CDT)

Yes, that's the right one. --Unapersson 02:46, 6 Oct 2007 (CDT)

Lovecraft's The Colour Out of Space

Can you check your verified copy of this pub? There's a few differences between your copy and the info in William J. Denholm III's Lancer Checklist (Megavore #10, 1980). First he gives the complete title as The Colour Out of Space and Others and gives the price as $0.75. I had changed the title and added the cover credit before realizing that you had already verified this edition. I appreciate your taking the time to clear up the discrepancies. Thanks. Mhhutchins 21:08, 7 Oct 2007 (CDT)

I think that's fixed. It looks like my was the uncredited fourth printing. So I've moved my verification to that and updated it. You might want to check the third still matches up with the source you had. --Unapersson 15:44, 13 Oct 2007 (CDT)

Lancer edition of "Sword of the Dawn"

Can you verify that the title of this pub includes the initial "The" in the title? According to Denholm's Lancer Checklist, the title is simply Sword of the Dawn. Also he credits Jeff Jones as the cover artist. Thanks. Mhhutchins 17:57, 8 Oct 2007 (CDT)

The Huntsman

Correct cover? And Warriors of the Wasteland? And Son of the White Wolf? BLongley 14:18, 9 Oct 2007 (CDT)

Yes to all (as ever :-)) --Unapersson 15:45, 13 Oct 2007 (CDT)

Verified pub Lumley's The House of Cthulhu

Entry "How Kank Thad Returned to Blur-Esh" is it that or "How Kank Thad Returned to Bhur-Esh"? The second title appears in the June 1977 issue of Fantastic and Locus/Contento also uses the second spelling for the collection.--swfritter 14:51, 16 Oct 2007 (CDT)

Poseidonis

In Poseidonis there is a Editor's Note that is marked as short fiction. Is this right? You might also want to put which story the several notes are about in parens, I almost merged them since they were in the same pub. Dana Carson 01:19, 21 Oct 2007 (CDT)

Tramontane / The Wrecks of Time

Right Covers? BLongley 16:11, 31 Oct 2007 (CDT)

Yes, but boy do I hate those ace doubles :-) --Unapersson 18:27, 31 Oct 2007 (CDT)
I don't mind the "Two by Same Author" but how do I shelve the ones that aren't is always the question. :-/ BLongley 13:39, 1 Nov 2007 (CDT)

Dai-San

I was verifying my (van) Lustbaders and noticed that the 1985 printing of his Dai-San has 246 pages according to your verified record. I have the 1983 reprint of the Star edition and it contains 262 pages. Could you please double check the page count when you get a chance? TIA! Ahasuerus 20:18, 2 Nov 2007 (CDT)

Finally managed to dig this one out. Yes it is 246 pages, I do have the edition that was reprinted somewhere as well. The reprint is a standard paperback sized edition whereas the first printing was slightly oversized. --Unapersson 08:23, 11 Nov 2007 (CST)
I may be somewhat confused, but isn't your verified Star publication a 1985 reprint? If so, it sounds like the first (1981) printing was oversized, my verified 1983 reprint was regular size, and the 1985 reprint was once again oversized. Or am I even more confused than I realize? :-) Ahasuerus 12:58, 11 Nov 2007 (CST)
This is confusing, my 1985 reprint is regular size. I'll have to try and dig up that 1981 copy and see how many pages that one has :-) --Unapersson 13:59, 11 Nov 2007 (CST)

Pemberl[e]y's Start-Afresh Calliope

The title of this H. G. Wells parody is "Pemberley's Start-Afresh Calliope" in Pocket's The Best of John Sladek, but it was "Pemberly's Start-Afresh Calliope" in your verified New Worlds Quarterly and The Steam-Driven Boy and Other Strangers. I changed the spelling of this Title to include an extra "e", but then realized than we may have a legitimate Variant here, so I was wondering if you could double check your editions? TIA! Ahasuerus 08:17, 4 Nov 2007 (CST)

It's definitely "Pemberly" in New Worlds Quarterly. Now I just need to find The Steam-Driven Boy. --Unapersson 08:31, 11 Nov 2007 (CST)
Thanks! I have created a Variant Title for Pocket's version of the story for now. Ahasuerus 12:44, 11 Nov 2007 (CST)
I have the same "The Steam-Driven Boy" edition. There, it's "Pemberly's Start-Afresh Calliope . . ." on the contents page but "Pemberley's Start-Afresh Calliope" (new line) "or, The New Proteus" on the first page of the story. BLongley 13:44, 11 Nov 2007 (CST)
Looking closer, this is a nightmare pub. For the parodies, the credited authors on the contents page don't match the authors on the first page of the stories. Some attempt to merge the "author" credits into the title has been made. Lots of notes needed, I think: whether we want to create 10 pseudonyms (and 10 from contents page?) is another matter. BLongley 13:54, 11 Nov 2007 (CST)
Ah, OK, I see you started. BLongley 14:04, 11 Nov 2007 (CST)
I wouldn't treat those as real pseudonyms as they're clearly not meant to be taken as such, much like the authors in Kevin J. Anderson's War of the Worlds anthology. It's just an attempt to make it clean which author is being satirised^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H paid tribute to. --Unapersson 14:06, 11 Nov 2007 (CST)
The currently existing composite titles, e.g. "Engineer to the Gods...R*b*rt H**nl**n (Hitler I.E. Bonner)", originally came from Contento. I think it's a reasonable way of capturing and displaying pseudo-pseudonym (!) information, but we will probably want to add Notes to each title record. Ahasuerus 14:26, 11 Nov 2007 (CST)
Some are worse than others - e.g. "One Damned Thing After Another--A Co-ordainer's Myth" is a title, not a title plus pseudo-pseudonym. But please Note away at your pleasure! (Goes to check whether I've verified anything else with such awful problems, my head hurts enough already...) The variants seem a bit pointless if we're amalgamating Contents and Title-Page entries though. BLongley 14:50, 11 Nov 2007 (CST)

The Shub-Niggurath Cycle: Tales of the Black Goat With a Thousand Young

Re: this verified publication, I have changed the values in the story length field from "shortfiction" to "short story"/"novelette" as appropriate. BTW, do you happen to know anything about the Cthulhu Cycle series? We have 3 separate titles that claim that they are volume 10 in the series. I wonder if there are multiple series involved or perhaps undocumented Variant Titles? Ahasuerus 19:13, 6 Dec 2007 (CST)

I'll pick these up as a project and try and sort them out. I don't have all ten but can certainly fill in the gaps with a bit of research. The Berglund Disciples of Cthulhu will need to reduced to one #10 (The Second Edition) as the original edition was by a different publisher with slightly different contents. --Unapersson 03:22, 9 Dec 2007 (CST)
Sounds great, thanks! :) Ahasuerus 11:16, 9 Dec 2007 (CST)

The Rivals of Frankenstein: A Gallery of Monsters

Have made "The Iron Man" by Otto Binder as Eando Binder in your verifie pub a variant of "Iron Man" from Future #28 based upon Contento. If you want to double check that it is the same story the first line is 'Charley Becker dropped his tools and announced, "I'm going to get oiled."'--swfritter 19:32, 17 Dec 2007 (CST)

New Worlds 6

I fiddled with your verified edition a bit: added reviews, notes, and corrected a couple of author credits. Please check. BLongley 09:14, 20 Dec 2007 (CST)

Does Mr Price not know what a Yeat is?

There's a suspicious looking author in your verified pub - is it really Yates or Yeats? BLongley

Myths of the Near Future

Can you check the publisher on your pub please? It doesn't seem to match the ISBN. (Cloned from the hardback, maybe?) BLongley 14:42, 24 Dec 2007 (CST)

This one is fixed now (finally). --Unapersson 15:22, 24 Jan 2008 (CST)

Beyond Lands of Never

Can you check if Hode of the High Place • shortfiction by Jessica Amanda Salmonsen in Beyond Lands of Never is Salmonsen or Salmonson? Dana Carson 04:13, 25 Dec 2007 (CST)

It is Salmonson so I've fixed it. --Unapersson 17:12, 4 Feb 2008 (CST)

Corsairs of the Second Ether

I have a problem with Corsairs of the Second Ether, which is included in Blood: A Southern Fantasy verified by you. Could you check if it is a story (novelette?) split into 3 parts or tree short stories or something else? It was also published as 3 'instalments' in New Worlds 2. Perhaps it should be added to the contents listing in Blood? Thank you. --Roglo 14:41, 2 Jan 2008 (CST)

Feast of Fear

Can you please check the ISBN on your verified pub - it's showing up on our bad ISBN list but we don't know if it's as printed or a typo. BLongley 04:18, 13 Jan 2008 (CST)

Unfortunately, that's what's printed on the spine of the book and there's nothing inside to disagree with it. --Unapersson 14:35, 18 Jan 2008 (CST)

Also Thuvia Maid of Mars - should be 0450022889? BLongley 05:33, 13 Jan 2008 (CST)

Illustrations (Strange Eons)

I've changed Illustrations (Strange Eons) in your verified publication Strange Eons from SHORTFICTION to INTERIORART. --Roglo 13:22, 14 Jan 2008 (CST)

Alhireth-Hotep the Prophet

In your verified pub Nyarlathotep Cycle: Tales about the God of a Thousand Forms you listed "Alhireth-Hotep the Prophet" as a Poem. However, the same title appears in The Gods of Pegana, Beyond the Fields We Know, and The Complete Pegana as a work of shortfiction (albeit very short, no more than three paragraphs). Can you double check if the version in Nyarlathotep Cycle is actually different from the version in the Project Gutenberg edition of The Gods of Pegana? -DES Talk 15:31, 12 Feb 2008 (CST)

Flesh and Blood

Is this pub really a hardcover? If so, it seems to be the only one Mandarin published. BLongley 12:06, 25 Mar 2008 (CDT)

According to this bibliography of Masterson's horror novels, William Heinmann published the hardcover edition in 1994 and Mandarin did the paperback version in 1995 (ISBN 0-7493-1671-3). Ahasuerus 13:51, 25 Mar 2008 (CDT)
It is a paperback, so I'll fix it. That's my biblio as well. Ouch. --