User talk:Willem H./Archive/04

A.G./Angela Slatter

You primary verified this anthology listing, where the author of one of the stories is credited as "A. G. Slatter." I have a copy of the same edition and printing, and in my copy that story is credited to "Angela Slatter." Does your copy actually list the author as "A.G."? Thanks. BrendanMoody 19:49, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Probably my mistake, it's Angela Slatter in my copy too. There is another edition of the book, verified by Bluesman. I asked him to look at the credit in his copy before changing anything, but I will, depending on his response. Thanks for noticing! --Willem H. 20:50, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

The © is to A. G. Slatter but the TOC and title page of the story have Angela Slatter. Feel free to correct at the title level. Good catch! --~ Bill, Bluesman 20:56, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Quick response! I mad the changes, all should be well now. Thanks, --Willem H. 21:08, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Serial as variant of a Novel

Could you take a look/comment on [this] discussion? Thanks. --~ Bill, Bluesman 16:32, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

Survival Printout

Can you confirm that the spelling of "All You Zombies" in this pub includes two single dashes instead of the more common emdash (long dash)? Thanks. Mhhutchins 21:24, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Yes, the contents page and page headers have the emdash, but the story's titlepage has two single dashes. --Willem H. 21:29, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for checking. It's cases like this that makes me against making variants based on punctuation, especially when the more conventional punctuation is also used in the same book. This seems more like a typesetter's choice rather than the editor. Either way, it might be a good idea to record this anomaly in the note field to keep the more anal retentive editors like me from bugging you again with the same question. Thanks again. Mhhutchins 21:57, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Fatal Revenant

Does [this] edition have the 'R.' in the author's name? The other two Gollancz editions are entered as a variant/pseudonym. Thanks! --~ Bill, Bluesman 17:38, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

In spot-checking a few other Donaldson pubs it seems all British editions lack the 'R.', but few variants have been set up or are incomplete. --~ Bill, Bluesman 18:29, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Must have been from my early days. No "R", only on the copyright page. Corrected the two remaining Gollancz editions for this title. I have no other British Donaldson titles. Good find! Thanks, --Willem H. 19:22, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Secret of Sinharat/People of the Talisman

You are the primary verifier for this Ace double, with both stories by Leigh Brackett. At the beginning of "People of the Talisman" there is a one-page "About the Author" essay by Edmond Hamilton (Leigh's husband). That seems worth adding to the contents, so I'm submitting that change. Chavey 04:44, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

I agree totally about the addition, and saw that your edit was already accepted. I merged the essay however with the same one in the first printing of the Ace Double (see here). I copied the note and kept the title (Leigh Brackett (People of the Talisman / The Secret of Sinharat)) from that edition. Thanks for noticing the omission. --Willem H. 19:17, 1 April 2011 (UTC)

And thanks for merging with the other one! Chavey 18:37, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

The Ides of Octember

Two questions for you. 1) Shouldn't the book be listed somehow on the Roger Zelazny page? 2) Can you create a new entry for the separate limited edition that was released last month? I've never created an entry so I don't think I should start now. I can provide the details that you need. ISBN-10: 0-9846092-1-0; ISBN-13: 978-0-9846092-1-5. Published by Camelot Books and Gifts, Inc. Leatherbound, traycased, lettered; traycase has the original cover art inset onto the front; signed by Roger Zelazny; limited to 21 signed lettered copies and 4 unsigned PC copies; the letters used are A-T + Z. Consists of the NESFA trade paperback rebound with two additional sheets inserted: the signature sheet and a new title page which states "SPECIAL LIMITED EDITION Produced by Camelot Books and Gifts, Inc. in cooperation with NESFA PRESS." Backside of new title page explains provenance: "The pages bearing Roger Zelazny’s signature were extra signature sheets from the Ultramarine Press editions of Knight of Shadows (1989) and Prince of Chaos (1991), obtained by Christopher S. Kovacs" and this page also states "Specially Bound Limited Edition, March 2011." Price $500. Released March 2011. Publisher's website is http://www.camelotbooks.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=4016&PHPSESSID=a32ae1166012d9857e1bfc8741057064. There's a low resolution image on the publisher's website but I have a high res version but don't know how best to get it to you. --Ckovacs 19:18, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the data provided. The entry is here. I copied the notes you gave, but reordered them a bit. Please check for completeness. Alas, too expensive for me, but it looks beautiful. I'm on Camelot's mailing list, so I got the notification on March 30, but the book wasn't on their website yet.

About your first question, I wish, I wish, there could be a section "works about" on the author's page for this, interviews, artbooks etc, but there isn't (yet). The best I could do was place the book in the Collected Stories series. I would love to receive the high res image (also to upload it to the wiki). I think the easiest way is to mail me the file. I sent you an e-mail (to the info@c.k. adress), hope you can reply from there. Again, thanks. --Willem H. 20:18, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for doing that! I don't have my own copy in hand yet so I've sent you a photo of the book beside the traycase. That may be all that's needed. But it about a week or so, I should be able to send you a front-on high-res scan if still needed.--Ckovacs 21:50, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

E-mail received, changes made and cover added. Silly of me, not to change paperback to hardcover. I can't verify the data, but you can of course. Thanks, --Willem H. 07:36, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

The Probability Corner, by Walt & Leigh Richmond

You are the Primary2 verifier for this book. I've added some notes to that record about the 5 page story prologue on pp. [vii]-[xi]. Chavey 05:08, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Edit accepted, good catch! Thanks, --Willem H. 15:27, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Stray Authors

Thanks for working on these. I've tried it myself and it's bringing up all sorts of issues. I started talking with Mike Hutchins about some of them (see User_talk:Mhhutchins#Stray_Authors) but I'd appreciate any more comments you have. I suspect that multi-lingual editors will spot even more problems - or "Feature Requests" as I prefer to call them. How's it going for you so far, and how can we make fixing these easier? BLongley 00:47, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

I've only done a few so far, and I've not seen any really weird things. Some have the translator or cover artist as co-author (easy to spot and easy to correct), some have a variant name of the author for the title record or the pub record. These are a bit harder, you have to determine which one is wrong. The only one that took more than a few edits was this Vonnegut omnibus, where I had to replace the entire contents (they were as by Vonnegut, Jr.), and re-merge/variant them all. The most time-consuming action is finding out how the pub should be credited, and I don't think there can be a Feature Requests for that.

I'll try to do my share, but my time on the database is very limited at the moment (a few hours a day at most). I'll contact you if I find other problems. --Willem H. 09:32, 27 April 2011 (UTC)

Gladiator-at-Law by Pohl & Kornbluth

I've submitted an update for your verified pub to change the author from "Cyril M. Kornbluth" to "C. M. Kornbluth". It's on hold at the moment, but I'll accept it if the change is correct. Thanks. Mhhutchins 17:33, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

You're also one of four verifiers of this edition. Should I accept the submission changing the credit to this one also? Mhhutchins 17:35, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

You're right. It's C .M. Kornbluth in all my editions of the title. Please accept the changes. Thanks, --Willem H. 18:49, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Interior art credits for The Illustrated Edgar Allan Poe

This may have been an early entry for you, and the moderator may not have noticed it, but the interior art records should have the same name as the piece which it illustrates. Adding "illustrations" to the title of the record is not the ISFDB standard. Thanks. Mhhutchins 15:30, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

You are right of course. Corrected now. I must do a second pass before you find all my mistakes. :-)--Willem H. 17:36, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

Paizo edition of Robots Have No Tails

According to Amazon, this edition was published in July 2009, which would make it fall better into the series numbering. Does the book itself have a stated date of publication? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 23:33, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

It was too late yesterday to check things after I did the publication series. Yes, Robots Have No Tails has a stated date in the copyright section. Literally: Planet Stories #21, Robots Have No Tails, by Henry Kuttner. May 2001. PRINTED IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

This could be the printing date of course. Amazon is wrong in any case. Locus #583 (August 2009) has it as a June 2009 publication. Locus #584 has #20 in the series, Leigh Brackett's The Sword of Rhiannon as a July 2009 publication. This makes me doubt if they were published in the right order. --Willem H. 19:00, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Hearts, Hands and Voices by Ian McDonald

Can you check to see if this pub was printed under the VGSF imprint? Thanks. Mhhutchins 01:39, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

It has the VGSF logo on the spine, VGSF on the titlepage, A Gollancz paperback on the backcover, and First VGSF edition published 1993 / by Victor Gollancz / an imprint of Cassell on the copyright page. Your choice how to make it ready for the mass change when (if?) the imprint gets it's own field. --Willem H. 19:48, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

There's a debate that's been running over the past couple of days and it's pretty much split about how it should be entered. Either way, just adding VFSF to the publisher field will make sure it's recognized as an imprint that can be shifted when/if an imprint field is ever implemented. Mhhutchins 20:11, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Done so. I noticed the debate and decided to stay far away from it. I did my own thing with the publishers "Paizo Publishing", "Paizo Publishing, LLC", "Paizo Publishing, LLC." and "Planet Stories". All but one zapped now. :-) Thanks, --Willem H. 20:17, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

I guess you're not working from ISFDB:Single Publication Publishers. :-) But any more regularisation is good - so long as it goes my way, of course! ;-) And please don't avoid the discussions - sometimes I can spot the small areas of agreement and take us forward a little. It's looking as though most people would be happier to have imprint and publisher as separate fields, so long as it doesn't mean more work for new entries? It might move us a step closer to harmony. We're already a lot better off than four years ago when "publisher" was a completely free-form text field and things like "Julia MacRae Books, a division of Walker Books Ltd" got by un-noticed. BLongley 23:41, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

I hadn't noticed this list before, but will think about it from now on. Generally I don't avoid discussions, but this one had two opposite opinions colliding, and I don't always feel like mediating. --Willem H. 06:39, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

There were two for and two against. A fifth voice would have tipped the balance to one side or the other. Every opinion counts. Mhhutchins 18:39, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

The Great Fetish (L. Sprague de Camp)

Hi, I've found your cover artist, Steele Savage aka Harry Steele Savage.--Dirk P Broer 16:01, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

"Rhodaniens"

Well, it seems you're the only person interested - email me your postal address and I'll get them in the post later this week. Oh, and as you offered to repay postage, do you want them sent cheaply or quickly? With or without tracking? BLongley 18:52, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Message received and understood. I should deal with more items this way - do you know any Polish readers that would work on ISFDB for free fanzines? BLongley 23:44, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Just to let you know these went in the post today. Sorry about the delay, I haven't been very good about getting out of the house recently. BLongley 19:58, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! There was no big hurry. Hope you're feeling better now. --Willem H. 20:13, 16 May 2011 (UTC)

Imprint / Publisher

Hi, there! I've changed publisher to Gollancz / Orion to respect imprint / publisher convention for this verified pub. Thanks! P-Brane 11:22, 9 May 2011 (UTC).

Revolt in 2100

This printing is listed on the artist's website (www.stanleymeltzoff.com) as the work of Stanley Meltzoff. There's no picture (that I could find), but it's on the list of his book covers and gives the catalog number and the fact that there is red background. Mhhutchins 18:00, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Also The Day After Tomorrow. Mhhutchins 18:10, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

And The Man Who Sold the Moon. Mhhutchins 18:13, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

And The Puppet Masters (later printings in the db give him credit already). 18:15, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

And The Ultimate Invader side of this Ace Double. Mhhutchins 18:18, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for these! Added the credit and notes. --Willem H. 10:01, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Peapod Classics (Small Beer Press)

Could you take a look at the discussion of Peapod Classics at my talk page? The issue is whether "Peapod Classics" are an imprint or a publication series. Thanks, Chavey 16:01, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

Commented there. Thanks, --Willem H. 10:12, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

The Last Warrior Queen

Hi Willem, you verified this book as being published by Unwin Paperbacks. Other books in this same series are verified as being published by Unicorn; Unicorn / Unwin (e.g. this publication or as Unicorn / Unwin Paperbacks, what should be done to make things easier for everyone? We're not talking about great numbers on this--Dirk P Broer 08:27, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

And, to confuse matters even more, there are also "genuine" Unwin Paperbacks, without Unicorn logo, e.g. this publication.--Dirk P Broer 09:03, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

I added the OCLC and also a remark that both front a back cover have the Unicorn logo, and that the back cover states:

Unicorn
Unwin Paperbacks
Fiction/Fantasy
which suggests either a special fantasy imprint, or a series. As such the series is unknown to me. Reginald3 even gives mother company George Allan & Unwin as publisher (in case of first print) with this series(?)/imprint. I think it would be nice to be able to see -in one overview- what was published under a given imprint or publisher (sorted by imprint if he has more of them). As it is now I have to do four lookups.--Dirk P Broer 18:41, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

I agree with the Unicorn imprint, and changed the publisher to Unicorn / Unwin Paperbacks, which seems to me the best way until there is a separate field for imprint. --Willem H. 14:25, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Willem is vacationing in the Mediterranean (the lucky bum). He'll get back with you in a few days, I'm sure. Unless he was ensorcelled by the Sirens of Crete. Mhhutchins 18:46, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

I'll be visiting Manchester this summer, been to Crete last year (and to the UK the year before that, so Manchunian Oxfam shops: Keep your SF books ready, I'll buy every book I don't own already).--Dirk P Broer 21:27, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

You might be OK, I've only relieved Oxfam of all their SF from the shops south-east of Birmingham. ;-) Although I find them the most expensive option of all the Charity shops we have. BLongley 21:59, 12 May 2011 (UTC)

I've already raided London, Brighton, Hastings, Oxford and Cambridge two years ago (and indeed: there is more charity than just Oxfam, though they tend to have more). Might want to visit Rog Peyton in Birmingham, done eBay bussines with him.--Dirk P Broer 14:16, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Galaxy Novel #19: Jack of Eagles

Can you look at this submission and see if it matches your pub? The record currently states there is no stated date of publication. Thanks. Mhhutchins 02:44, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

The edit is valid I think, but the "Publication date is not stated" statement should not be deleted. The copyright page states: Copyright 1952 by GREENBERG PUBLISHERS over Reprinted 1953 by arrangements with the Publisher. This sais (i.m.o.) nothing about the publication date (I think Tuck is right, and it should be 1954). The other Blish Galaxy novel The Warriors of Day has the statement Republished 1953 by arrangements with the Publisher on the copyright page. --Willem H. 08:18, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

I've accepted to the submission but returned the "Publication date is not stated" statement to the record with some slight word rearrangement. Please check it out and change any wording that may be incorrect.

What do you think is the meaning of the two different ways that the date is stated on each of the pubs? I've always thought that "reprinted" means that we, the publisher, have published this title before in an earlier printing, and "republished" means this is our first edition of the title which was previously published by another publisher. Do you think there were two printings by Galaxy? What evidence or sources other than Tuck lead you to believe that Jack of Eagles was published in 1954? Also, the Galaxy edition is supposedly the first book publication of The Warriors of Day. Does the Galaxy statement acknowledge another publisher, other than its publication in the magazine Two Complete Science-Adventure Books? Thanks. Mhhutchins 19:00, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

I think the notes are fine now. I was surprised by the different wording "republished" and "reprinted" in the two Blish Galaxy novels, but I'm not sure it means anything. Only the fact that we have 7 Galaxy novels published in 1953 and only 4 in 1954 made me think Tuck was right .

"The Warriors of Day" only states Copyright 1951 by Wing Publishing Co., Inc. (the publisher of the Two Complete Science-Adventure Books edition). Republished probably means this is a different edition. --Willem H. 19:53, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Female Man

Scanned in a new image and found a signature on the cover of [this]. Took a 600DPI close-up and it jumps out! Bottom left, just below the blue 'ribbon/edge'. Squint! ;-) --~ Bill, Bluesman 18:29, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Wow... even then it's hard for me to see. There is an artist called Morgan Kane (see here). Some of his art has a similar style. Even the signature looks like the one on Female Man. Thanks! --Willem H. 19:16, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Letters from Home

I see that you accepted Stonecreek's submission to change the author credit for Letters from Home. Perhaps you'd not read this discussion? If the book is not specifically credited to Lefanu as the editor, and we're able to confirm that she actually was the editor, the pub record should be credited to "uncredited" and a parent title record should be created giving credit to Lefanu. Stonecreek readily admits that she is not credited as the editor in the book itself, only that the book is copyrighted by her. And we know copyrights are not the basis for pub credit, only the title page, which is this case gives the authors of the book as Pat Cadigan, Karen Joy Fowler and Pat Murphy, and so does the OCLC record. This is the last input I'm giving in the matter, and will allow the primary verifier establish whatever standards he wishes to how this particular book should be credited in the database. Mhhutchins 21:09, 22 May 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, I hadn't seen the discussion, I was on Crete then. I'll look at / repair it when I'm home this afternoon. --Willem H. 07:48, 23 May 2011 (UTC)

Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde

Hi, there! Sorry, I sommehiow missed your message about this pub. The reason for removing US price is that the book was printed in UK and (with probability 1) has only price in pounds. The US price is a distributor price (Trafalgar in this case) and it is stickered to the book, covering the original price. Thanks! P-Brane 01:03, 25 May 2011 (UTC).

Thanks for the info. That means i.m.o. that the source of the US price is not unknown as you stated in the notes, but the distributor. I removed the price again, and adapted the notes. Please check here. Thanks, --Willem H. 19:34, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

2nd Editions of The Collected Stories of Roger Zelazny

Willem, can you add entries for the 2nd editions of V1-3 of The Collected Stories of Roger Zelazny? They are designated 2nd editions because there have been revisions and additions to the annotations and biography, as well as corrections of typos. On the respective copyright pages the new editions are indicated like this:

In volume 1: SECOND EDITION, September 2009

In volume 2: SECOND EDITION, December 2009

In volume 3: SECOND EDITION, May 2011

Volume 4 will likely have its second edition within the next several months. Ditto for the bibliography which has sold unexpectedly fast. Volumes 5 and 6 had larger print runs and will take longer to reach 2nd edition status (and may only be designated as 2nd printings if they don't require revisions to the annotations and biography).

The 2nd edition volumes are otherwise indistinguishable from the respective first editions except for their copyright pages.--Ckovacs 22:51, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

2nd editions added of vol.1, vol.2 and vol.3. Can you verify these? And let me know when vol.4 is published, I can't find this information on the NESFA website. Thanks, --Willem H. 09:34, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for doing that. I did the verifications. We haven't done the second edition of volume 4 yet but I will let you know. --Ckovacs 23:11, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Tin Men

Could you verify that the poem Tin Men from Unaccompanied Sonata and Other Stories starts with "I saw an old loop at the museum" and ends with "And returns in darkness with us to our bed". I believe I've submitted the original source of this and think it would be a candidate for merging. Thanks. Albinoflea 07:54, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

You're probably right, I'll check the book when I'm home again this afternoon. --Willem H. 09:41, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Yes, the poems are the same, I merged them. Thanks, --Willem H. 14:58, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Excellent, thanks. Albinoflea 18:17, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Seven Trips Through Time and Space

I have started a mini project at Author:Randall Garrett#Johnathan vs. Jonathan and MacKenzie vs. Mac Kenzie. You have one of the publications involved. --Marc Kupper|talk 01:53, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Added my 2¢ there. The pub is correct. --Willem H. 08:25, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

The Best Science Fiction Stories

Hi! In this verified pub Stapleton is credited as editor. In my copy there is no editorial credit given. Could you please check? Thank you! P-Brane 01:54, 23 June 2011 (UTC).

You are right, Stapleton is not explicitely credited as editor. This was one of my early verifications, when I was still learning the rules. The editorial credit is based on Stapleton's introduction, where at the end he admits to being the editor (an editor's usefulness has it's limits etc.). I changed the credit to "uncredited", vt'd to Michael Stapleton (see here. Can you agree? Thanks for noticing! --Willem H. 15:02, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! That's perfect. Hamlyn did several anthologies in '77 with intros but w/o editorial credits. Cheers, P-Brane 00:18, 27 June 2011 (UTC).

Lord of Thunder

Wondering about the date for [this]. In the ads in the back, specifically 24D, an edition of Exiles of the Stars is listed which has been verified as published July 1972. [But the price of 75¢ seems too low for 1972?] Does your copy have the same ad? --~ Bill, Bluesman 03:02, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Weird this. My copy has no ads at all in the back, did Ace publish the book twice with no.49236? I do have serious doubts about 1969 publication date though. It was there before I verified the book, with no note. My copy does have cigarette adds between pages 96/97 and 128/129, both with copyright 1971 printed, so 1971 seems more likely. --Willem H. 14:38, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

That's ACE!! Since all Ace books are printed in the US, can't know what goes through their minds with the numbering, I'm sure the rest of the world would have been much more logical. ;-) I wouldn't doubt they just used up old stock, plunked in the ads and forgot to change/overwrite the cover price/catalog #. Finding so many recently that demand the existence of extra printings, but no extra numbers to fit into the particular sequence. All that's left is multiple printings with the same number. I'll create another record with a '72 date for mine, noting the ads. A project, which I've had in mind for some time, has been to do as complete a listing of ACE ads as possible, as they seem to be the key to a better dating 'system'. Seems daunting but when you hold two identical copies and the only difference is in the ads, it has to lead somewhere... ?? Thanks for checking! --~ Bill, Bluesman 15:41, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

I think you may have answered the question Ahasuerus asked at User_talk:Nimravus#The_Forever_War - we obviously want more than just stated printing number. BLongley 21:40, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Delany's Nova

Moved here from the changes to verified pubs page.

Hi Willem, Eddie Jones is the cover artist for your Bantam edition of Samuel R. Delany's Nova.--Dirk P Broer 15:31, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

And here as well of course (same book, same cover art).--Dirk P Broer 15:35, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

In the process of linking various instances of the same cover art I discovered that your unknown Nova (3rd edition) was published June 1975 (and now is the oldest verified use of this cover art).--Dirk P Broer 20:31, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

I placed this edit on hold for now, and will reject it later. June 1975 is the publication date of thesecond printing, and you failed (again) to add a note about the source of your information. --Willem H. 21:30, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Hi Willem, as I put in the note: I own the 8th printing, which gives the printing dates of ALL editions up to the 8th. I even said in the note about the 3rd edition that it had the *same* publication month as the 2nd (which btw I suspect has the same cover art). I do not think I failed to mention my source, but I will add a scan for the publication record of the 8th edition.--Dirk P Broer 08:53, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

You can see the copyright page of the 8th edition here.--Dirk P Broer 08:58, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, didn't see the note yesterday (late, sleepy etc). Approved and thanks! --Willem H. 17:57, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

The Birthgrave (Tanith Lee)

In your verified copy of this book, George Barr is listed for "Interior Art". Since the only piece of interior art is the frontispiece, I've added a page number to that content item, and submitted a title change from "The Birthgrave" to "The Birthgrave (frontispiece). Chavey 21:46, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

You're completely right. Thanks for noticing. --Willem H. 08:29, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

Gunner Cade, by Cyril Judd

I added a cover artist credit for your verified Gunner Cade. The photographer credit was listed in the notes, but recent discussions seem to validate putting photographer credits in the cover artist field, so I moved it there from the notes. Chavey 04:51, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

I did the same thing for Outpost Mars. Chavey 04:59, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

I agree, but left the edits for the primary verifier (Bill Longley) to approve. Thanks, --Willem H. 08:34, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

On variants

There seems to be no need to make Dutch titles variants of existing English titles: "The Dutch titles should still be merged with the English titles. They should not be made into variants of any title. Neither should the French, Italian, Spanish, or German titles, all of which should be merged with the English title. There are other databases that might better fulfill what you're trying to do here. If that's appears to be anglo-centric, well that's the way it is. Mhhutchins 22:32, 27 May 2011 (UTC)". Does that save us a lot of time (at least now), or do we still have to do it in the long run (when fulll foreign language support has arrived)? --Dirk P Broer 20:07, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Read this carefully. These are the latest developments. If no automated solution is found, all pubs entered now will take at least three edits to move from the English titlerecord to the Dutch (unmerge, change, variant). --Willem H. 20:20, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Well, you can at least say it not a static environment, ISFDB;) --Dirk P Broer 20:26, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Everything but static. Keeps things interesting. --Willem H. 20:28, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

And we never know exactly when Ahasuerus will have time to implement the next big thing. I code a lot of the changes, and even I have no idea when they'll go live! BLongley 12:08, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Verified Firebird books

I'm updating the existing "Firebird" published books to "Firebird / Penguin" to follow the ISFDB standard of "imprint / publisher". This changes the publisher of your verified books Dingo and The Blue Girl. According to Amazon's "Look Inside" feature for "Dingo", this agrees with the imprint statement in that book. The "Look Inside" feature for "The Blue Girl", however, claims that it was by "Viking / Penguin", and I am unable to find a reference to "Firebird" in there. That may mean that (1) the publishing credit is in error; (2) "Look Inside" doesn't show me enough (e.g. the spine); (3) you have a different edition than Amazon does; (4) the book cover listed with this book is not the one on your book; (5) or various other possibilities. I'm assuming my change for Dingo will be ok, but I would appreciate it if you could check what's going on with "The Blue Girl". Thanks, Chavey 01:58, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

I've realized what my confusion was: The "Look Inside" for The Blue Girl was giving me a different edition of the book than the Firebird edition, hence was giving me the wrong publisher information. So it looks like both of these books are correctly "Firebird / Penguin" publications. But let me know if I've erred in making those updates. Chavey 14:50, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Different timezone here, keeps me away from my collection. Both pubs have the Firebird logo on the spine, and according to the titlepages are published by Firebird, an imprint of Penguin. The edits are valid i.m.o. Thanks, --Willem H. 18:30, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Elmfield Press / The Elmfield Press

Hi Willem, Would you agree that, based upon what is printed on both the spine and the copyright page, "The Elmfield Press" better describes the name of the publisher than just "Elmfield Press"? I discovered that the The Elmfield Press books in my collection were divided in isfdb into Elfield Press and The Elmfield Press. It is about books like Pitman's Progress and Wooden Centauri.--Dirk P Broer 15:39, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

I do agree, but not based on spine or copyright page. The title page is leading, but in this case it makes no difference. I will approve your edits. B.t.w., merging the publisher records would have been an easier solution (I believe only moderators can do that). Thanks, --Willem H. 16:30, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Yes, we probably need to publicise that fact a bit more - one request on the moderator noticeboard is better than dozens of individual pub edits. BLongley 16:33, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

I especially want your comments

On ISFDB:Community_Portal#Design_for_phase_4.28.3F.29_of_foreign_language_support, and on phase 3 too. BLongley 00:43, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Bestiary! anthology

Can you confirm the author credit for "Return of the Griffins" in this publication. We have the same story in the db as by "A. E. Shandeling" and I'm trying to determine which may be the canonical name of the author. Thanks. Mhhutchins 19:33, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

Definitely Sandeling on acknowlegement, contents and titlepage. --Willem H. 20:10, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for checking. I'll create a pseudonym and variant record. Mhhutchins 19:52, 22 August 2011 (UTC)

Martin Magnus, Planet Rover

Hello, can you have a look at your copy of this pub. It seems to me that I've got the same book except for the fact that mine is a pb. Can you please check? Hauck 13:57, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

You're absolutely right. I don't even have to look, I know... Corrected and thanks for noticing. --Willem H. 14:00, 21 August 2011 (UTC)

Paratime

Same [question] for you! --~ Bill, Bluesman 22:38, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Impact-20

Hello, if we go by title pages, shouldn't this pub be titled "Impact 20" ? Hauck 17:23, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

I agree. Sharp! Let's see what the other verifiers say. --Willem H. 17:51, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

Done. Hauck 05:45, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

The Executioness

I expanded the notes for The Executioness but also ended up changing a couple of things.

• You had verified with the note "Shipped by the publisher on January 31, 2011." What is the source for this? I revised the note to source Amazon but as they report "Publication Date" and not a publisher's shipping date I removed the original note.
• You had verified it as 104 pages. I see that the story ends on page 102 and is followed by two blank pages. I changed this to 102+[2] per Template:PublicationFields:Pages and added a note "The story ends on page 102 and is followed by two blank pages." --Marc Kupper|talk 17:03, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the expanded (and corrected) notes. One thing, I didn't read anything in the introduction that would lead me to thinking the story could be a joint work between Bacigalupi and Buckell. I.m.o. it's about building a shared world where both authors told their own tale. About my notes:

* Since Subterranean only mentions a year in their publications (and Amazon can't be trusted on sight), I use the shipping dates from William Schafer's e-mails (Subterranean press keeps these messages available on their website, see here). I added a link to that page for the limited edition and the two editions of Bacigalupi's novella (shipped on the same day)

* The pages: my fault, I should have checked these. The companion novella by Bacigalupi ends on page 95 (not 96), I corrected the page count for these and the signed edition of the Buckell. Thanks, --Willem H. 19:08, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

Thank you for the quick response. I updated the publication notes to source the newsletter you noted and made Amazon a secondary confirmation. I also removed the note about the introduction - it was more a subjective thing on my part.

On the shared world/story thing. I had not known about the existence The Alchemist when I read the introduction for The Executioness. While reading the introduction I first thought it was about a shared world and so I looked through the publication for Bacigalupi's story. When I did not find it I thought it was odd that the introduction talked about this shared work and that only Buckell got the credit on the title page and copyright notice. While adding the publication to my personal database I found The Alchemist and The Executioness mentioned on another site. I added that to ISFDB and revised the publication notes I'd been writing up about The Executioness

So you are right - the introduction makes it seem like it's a shared world but in absence of evidence that Bacigalupi wrote a story for that universe I reinterpreted what the introduction meant.

re: "trusting Amazon on sight." I don't trust them either but I also don't trust what's stated in the publications nor on any web site. Instead I simply document who said what and leave it up to the reader to decide, if they want to decide. As it is, Amazon tends to be fairly accurate. They are a garbage-in-garbage-out service with their data mainly coming from publishers and book sellers though it can also be modified by anyone that that creates an account on the Amazon system. --Marc Kupper|talk 03:57, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Can't delete contents

Michael has discovered a content-removal problem which also affects one of your pubs. Can you have a look at ISFDB:Community_Portal#Another_Language_issue and see if you can recall anything strange about this? BLongley 16:53, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

Responded there. --Willem H. 18:06, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

"Singular..." vs. "A Singular..." in 11th Year's Best SF

See User_talk:Scott_Latham#Judith_Merril.27s_11th_.22Year.27s_Best_SF.22. I thought perhaps since Scott doesn't seem to respond to Wiki inquiries and you're the 3-verifier, you might be able to confirm. I have also asked Swfritter (the 2-verifier). Thanks. --MartyD 11:12, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

I responded there, and corrected the title. Good catch! Thanks, --Willem H. 15:02, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

But What Of Earth? by Piers Anthony - pub date

The record for your verified But What Of Earth? has the pub date 1989-06-00 (which is June 1989), but my edition of the same novel has "First Tor edition: July 1989" on the copyright page. Can you check your copy please? I also replaced the default Amazon UK cover image with a scanned image. AndonSage 05:06, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Counting to six is difficult, to seven is nearly impossible. Good catch, I corrected the record and added to the notes. Thanks! --Willem H. 14:51, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks :) I have verified as Primary 2. AndonSage 01:09, 8 September 2011 (UTC)

Nebula Award Stories Two

There are two verified third printings of [this] publication [Dec.'69 editions]. One by Mark Kupper and one by you. Data seems the same? --~ Bill, Bluesman 12:54, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Must have missed that one. Deleted mine and moved my verification. Thanks! --Willem H. 16:25, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Midnight Sun

I'm about to enter the Summer-Fall 1975 issue of Midnight Sun and I've noticed that you have verified 1974 issue. The titles of this magazine seem to all be listed as Midnight Sun, <issue number>, <date>. My issue does not actually have the issue number as part of the title. It does state "Volume 1, Number 2" in various places (below the title on title page, in publication statement below the contents). The cover and acknowledgements section list the title as simply "Midnight Sun". I'm curious as to how the title is listed in your issue. Our records for most magazines do not include the issue number, and since it is only present in my copy in the context of volume number, I'd like to propose dropping the issue numbers from the title of our records and moving it into the notes. How do you feel about this? Thanks. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 16:03, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

It's only "Midnight Sun" on cover and titlepage, the acknowledgements (copyright) page has "Midnight Sun: no.1". No statement of volume or season. Feel free to drop the issue numbers. --Willem H. 20:32, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

Also, Should "Darkness Weaves" be entered as a serial and as "Darkness Weaves (Part 1 of 2)". I've got part 2 in my issue. Miller/Contento lists the whole work as an "extract" presumably of this novel. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 16:29, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

You're right, I changed the title record. Are you sure the second installment was the last one? The editor's note in my issue states "Midnight Sun has decided to re-print this excellent novel in it's entirety, just as Wagner wrote it". So there was at least the intention to serialize the whole novel, and not just publish an extract. Midnight Sun #1 has the prologue and chapter 1, "Those who dwell within tombs". --Willem H. 20:32, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

My source for two parts is Miller/Contento. They list the complete work being serialized as an "extract". I would guess, from the note you mention in your installment, that they intended to serialize the entire novel and ultimately didn't do more than the first 2 installments. I browsed through the serials we have listed and found this. What do you think about listing the serial titles as "Darkness Weaves (Part 1 of ?)" and making them variants of the novel rather than a SHORTFICTION extract? I can drop a question on Rules and standards discussions, if you agree, to see if everyone supports listing serials of unknown length in that form. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 12:45, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. Please go ahead. --Willem H. 14:52, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

I found this discussion which seems to cover our situation, so I went ahead and made the edits. Thanks for all your help on these. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 23:32, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Jack of Shadows

Just verified the sixth printing of [this] which has the same cover. There is a signature, quite small, about 4cm up and 2cm in from the bottom right. Just under the 'globe/sphere' [not the orb the figure is holding]. Letters are in red, Pepper's signature. FYI Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 14:38, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! I hadn't noticed the signature. Adapted my notes. --Willem H. 14:56, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

Lehr cover?

Does Jane Frank note Lehr as the artist for [this]? The credited artist has no other artwork in the db, and without that credit I'd swear it was Lehr. Thanks! --~ Bill, Bluesman 18:09, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

It looks a lot like Lehr, but this one isn't in Jane Frank's list. Sorry. --Willem H. 11:36, 20 September 2011 (UTC)

Full Spectrum 3

I added the two short essay 'About the Authors'/'About the Editors' and added a note on the included preview in this. (I also recalibrated Wolfgang Jeschke's novelette into an alternate title with pub. date 1991). Thanks for the good wishes on my being a moderator! Stonecreek 18:05, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Morrow's The Philosopher's Apprentice

Can you confirm that the publisher of this book is stated as "William Morrow / An Imprint of HarperCollins Publishers"? Most of these books are entered as William Morrow / HarperCollins since Morrow's purchase by HarperCollins in 1999. I'm in the middle of an effort to clean up the post-1999 titles from the William Morrow listings as a publisher before it became an imprint. Thanks. Mhhutchins 22:56, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

Same situation with Neal Stephenson's Quicksilver, The Confusion, and The System of the World. (I'd ask Al von Ruff about this trio but he's been gafiating to the mundane world for a long while now.) Mhhutchins 23:03, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

All four have the statement "William Morrow / An Imprint of HarperCollins Publishers" on the titlepage. I corrected these pubs. Thanks, --Willem H. 15:05, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

Thank you. That means, for now, all Morrow publications have been separated into the listings for before and after purchase by HarperCollins. Mhhutchins 23:16, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

Bruna & Zoon vs. Bruna Pockethuis

Dirk and I would appreciate your opinion in this discussion. Stonecreek 15:15, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Lester Del Rey - Tunnel Through Time

I updated your verified pub Tunnel Through Time to include an interior art credit for Frenck (And I suspect he did not do the cover art, but I didn't change that - Compare the cover art from the paperbacks to the HC original - Also Currey states that this wasn't even written by Del Rey... but that's a whole other ball of wax). I also expanded the notes to add a little more detail. (There was an old note about your copy missing the copyright page which I also removed). Thanks Kevin 15:33, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Since my copy is actually missing the copyright page, I can't verify any of this. Feel free to take over the primary verification, then I can take P2. I.m.o. the style of the cover art does look a bit like that of the interior illustrations. There's no signature anywhere (or it must be the vague scribbling a little above left center of the backcover), so no proof. The Jane Frank and Robert Weinberg books have no entry for Frenck. --Willem H. 15:53, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Ok. I'm marked as Primary now, you can grab P2. I did some more digging on the net and found quite a few representative samples of what are claimed to be Franck covers.. and they do match in style (sweeping watery colors.. for lack of better / correct terms). I also dug out my Clute/Nicholls which states "PWF [Paul W. Fairman] wrote several juvenile novels based on outlines by Lester Del Rey and published under del Rey's byline, including ... Tunnel Through Time. Several of these others are already have a Fairman co-author variant, so I'm going to list the source (concuring with the Currey reference) and do the same to this title record. Thanks Kevin 16:26, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Good job. Thanks! --Willem H. 18:36, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

"Planets of Adventure", by Basil Wells

You verified this publication, which we list as having 280 pages. Contento1 claims the page count is "12+280". Could you check whether there's any good cause to list those other 12 pages? Thanks, Chavey 18:39, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

I have no idea where Contento finds the extra pages. The first story starts on page 11, and counting backward there are no pages before 1. No illustrations or extra pages anywhere in the book and 280 is the last page, nothing after that. --Willem H. 18:48, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

"Kinsman", by Ben Bova

And this verified pub is listed by Contento1 as 245 pp, while we have it at 280 pages. Could you check that also? (You might be able to tell that I'm verifying Contento1 alphabetically by author's first name. I'm in the B's :-) Chavey 18:43, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Looks like we can't trust Contento's pagecount. The novel ends on page 280, so that should be it (or [8]+280, but there's nothing worth mentioning on the first 8 pages). --Willem H. 18:53, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for both checks. It seems that when I find disagreements between Contento1 and ISFDB, we are invariably more accurate than they are. Chavey 19:07, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Lester del Rey - Best Science Fiction Stories of the Year, Second Annual Collection

I corrected the entry in Best Science Fiction Stories of the Year, Second Annual Collection for "Miscount" to be 'as by C. N. Gloeckner', instead of by Caroline Gloeckner. This matches my copy in hand. Thanks Kevin 18:46, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Good find! I normally correct these myself. Must have missed it. Thanks! --Willem H. 18:55, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Scribner

Please look at this topic when you get a chance. Thanks. Mhhutchins 20:12, 12 October 2011 (UTC)

Greybeard

Think the year, if not the month, for [this] can be determined from [here]. Signet was a lot like DAW in assigning catalog #s, always in order. --~ Bill, Bluesman 04:34, 13 October 2011 (UTC)

Orson Scott Card - Songmaster

I noticed that you put a note in your verified pub Songmaster - Dell 1st Printing about the cover artist being "probably Lucinda Corwell", based on the cover art record for the hardcover from the Dial Press first edition. Is there anything to support that this is not the same artist? If it hadn't been for your note I would have added the cover artist myself when I verified. Thanks - Kevin 02:51, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

I think I put the note there instead of crediting the artist because there was no art attached to the hardcovers. Corrected now. Thanks for finding this! --Willem H. 15:05, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

Orson Scott Card - Hot Sleep & Capitol: The Worthing Chronicle

I added your verified pubs Hot Sleep: The Worthing Chronicle and Capitol: The Worthing Chronicle to a Publication Series "An Analog Book" - Thanks Kevin 03:38, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

Flight to Opar

Dated [this] from Jaffery. Since it was issued a new DAW # it gets another entry in his book. Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 19:17, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! Added to my database. --Willem H. 19:26, 24 October 2011 (UTC)

UY1081

From the cover scan of [this] I can't see the catalog #. Is it on the spine? This number would put the publication date as November 1973, using Jaffery's Retrospective. --~ Bill, Bluesman 22:07, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

The # is on the spine. Added the date. Thanks! --Willem H. 09:22, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

Non-English variants

I see your Negenhonderd Grootmoeders is quite like the So frustrieren wir Karl den Großen I entered, but the contents don't seem to have the correct language on. Is this because it was actually entered as an English collection first? (I've spent a day trying to look at things from a non-English point of view and found us sadly wanting, but am happy to try and improve things.) BLongley 02:00, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

Looks like something I did wrong. The Russell collection has the same problem. I'll correct these when I'm home this evening, and do some tests to see is it's me or the software. Thanks for noticing this! --Willem H. 07:37, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

Angela Carter's "Black Venus"

In doing a 2nd verification on your verified publication, I realized that the cover, a photograph, is credited to Peter Letts (back DJ flap). I think the policy of crediting such photographers as "cover artist" is fairly recent, probably since you verified this, so I went ahead and added the photographer as the cover artist. Chavey 05:34, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll take a look when I'm home this afternoon. --Willem H. 08:24, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

World Publishing print codes

I'm doing some research on the existence of certain "printing date" codes used by World Publishing Company on their books, such as we've been discussing at the Community Portal. You did a verification of two such books: Fur Magic and Explorers of the Infinite, and I was hoping you could look at the copyright page and see if there are such printing codes on those pages. Thanks, Chavey 02:15, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

Responded on the community portal to keep the data in one place. --Willem H. 17:41, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

The Wizard and the Plumber = Der Magier und der Klempner ?

Hello, Willem. I strongly suspect that the afterword by Aldiss in your verified pub and this essay are one and the same - only translated - but would you be so kind to take a look, if the afterword is really on Karel Thole? There is a chance that Aldiss re-used only the title. Stonecreek 14:59, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

You are absolutely right. Aldiss describes it as a trubute to the plumber (a.k.a. Karel Thole). I think this calls for a variant. --Willem H. 15:45, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

Thank you very much for checking! I'll alternate this title. Stonecreek 16:00, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

"Fur Magic", by Andre Norton

I added a content item to this book for the internal illustrations by John Kaufman, with a note about them. Chavey 06:14, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. Looks good. --Willem H. 20:17, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

"Fungi from Yuggoth & Other Poems", by Lovecraft

You are the primary verifier for this book, which lists "Gervasio Gallardo" as the cover artist. Contento1 claims that the cover artist is "Frank Utpatel". I suspect that Contento1 is incorrect, but I was hoping you could verify that for me. Thanks, Chavey 22:33, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

If you enlarge the cover scan, on the bottom right it sais "Illustrated by Frank Utpatel", probably where the (incorrect) Contento credit comes from. I few centimeters above that statement is Gallardo's signature. I'll check the book for interior credit when I'm home again this afternoon. --Willem H. 06:49, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

I hadn't noticed that signature under the cover image. That already seems pretty definitive, hence confirming that it's Contento's error. I added a note to the book's "Bibliographic Comments" about the error. Chavey 15:35, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Gervasio Gallardo is also credited on the copyright page. I added a note about this. Things should be clear now. --Willem H. 15:47, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

The Trail of Cthulhu

I added a publication series and a link to Derleth's The Trail of Cthulhu. I also wanted to ask if you think we should swap out the stories for their variants that include the subtitles. I've also got the hardcover edition which had the stories without subtitle. After going back and forth I decided to change them there, but wanted to give the other verifiers a chance to weigh in before changing the paperback. I'm leaving this same note on the other verifier's talk page. Thanks. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 03:04, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

I have no problems with the titlechanges. The subtitles are on the titlepages, so I think including the subtitles is even preferred. Thanks, --Willem H. 16:01, 1 December 2011 (UTC)

Airmont Science Fiction series

I am organizing the Airmont Science Fiction series, and have added your verified pubs: The Duplicated Man, The Tower of Zanid, Day of the Giants, Invaders from Rigel, and Lords of Atlantis to that series.

Thanks. Good move. --Willem H. 15:22, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

Stranger Than Life

Just an FYI that the Ace Image Library gives the artist for [this] cover a first name of Cosimo. Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 20:09, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! For me that's enough to change the credit. --Willem H. 20:15, 4 December 2011 (UTC)

Gestrand op Mars

Just entered [this] edition, totally from OCLC. Could you check it please? Most times I can pick the publisher from the city, not sure in this case. Thanks! --~ Bill, Bluesman 03:04, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

I'll check the pub when I'm home this afternoon. Changed the publisher to "De Verkenner", Baarn is the city. Thanks, --Willem H. 07:11, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Changed the pagenumber and verified this one. At the rate I'm going now, it will be a year before I get to the rest of this series. :( --Willem H. 15:54, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Bring 'em on over and I'll help!! :-)) --~ Bill, Bluesman 17:35, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Another one, [Strandet på Månen]. Thanks! --~ Bill, Bluesman 03:23, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Nice try, had to change the language to Danish however (anything with å is Scandinavian). --Willem H. 07:11, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

I do appreciate the check! --~ Bill, Bluesman 09:29, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

Shaw's Other Days, Other Eyes

As one of the primary verifiers, you may be interested to know that several items noted in this record are no longer true. The point about it being listed in the ISFDB as a collection may have been valid at one time, but that's since changed. The listing of stories in this fix-up have been added to the title record, so it's no necessary to repeat them here. Also, the artist identified by his signature "JHB" is J. H. Breslow who painted several other Ace covers during this period. Mhhutchins 06:30, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

If Marc or Ron don't change it, I will. Thanks, --Willem H. 07:15, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

I'm fine with the changes. I'll give Marc a chance to chime in first, though. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 12:59, 6 December 2011 (UTC)

A contributor's question on Laumer

Hello, Willem! Could you please take a look intothis question? Maybe you're able to help him. Regrettably, I am no Laumer expert. Stonecreek 13:14, 10 December 2011 (UTC)

Responded there. --Willem H. 10:16, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Hamilton's City at World's End

Do you know if the pub gives the publication date stated in this record? According to Tuck, it was published in 1956. Also, he gives the publisher as simply Crest, instead of Fawcett Crest (he may have only given the imprint). Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 02:42, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

The copyright page states: "First CREST printing, September 1957". It also explicitely has Crest as an imprint of Fawcett (CREST BOOKS are published by FAWCETT WORLD LIBRARY). Hope that helps. --Willem H. 16:15, 13 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification. There are a few records that give the publisher as Crest Books / Fawcett World Library. Do you think we should go through those early Crest Books and move them all under the same publisher? I believe in the early-to-mid 60s Fawcett World Library became just Fawcett Publications, but I don't know what the exact cut-off date is. Mhhutchins 03:46, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

I checked a number of my Crest verifications, and moved them from "Crest" to "Crest Books / Fawcett World Library". That leaves only a few verified pubs under this publisher. --Willem H. 10:13, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Well, there goes one theory down the drain. Your scan for this record shows they were still using "Fawcett World Library" until at least 1967. Could that be a publication series, or is that given as the publisher on the copyright page? Mhhutchins 04:30, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

This is a nice one. It has the Crest logo on the frontcover, "A Fawcett Crest Book" on the spine, title page and copyright page, "Fawcett Publications, Inc." on the titlepage and "Published by Fawcett World Library" on the copyright page and "Fawcett World Library" on the backcover. That would make the publisher "Fawcett Crest / Fawcett World Library"? I left this ona as it was for now. --Willem H. 10:13, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

One more book to check: the cover of this record gives the publisher as Fawcett Gold Medal. Is the interior credit different? Thanks. Mhhutchins 03:50, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

The title page states "GOLD MEDAL BOOKS" over "Fawcett Publications, Inc.". Funny though, it also states "Fawcett World Library" on the backcover. --Willem H. 10:13, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

It looks like in 1965 the exterior credit of most books began to state either "Fawcett Crest" or "Fawcett Gold Medal". (The images on this site give a good idea of when this happened. Go to "d814" published in June 1965. Every image after that one credits "A Fawcett Crest Book".) As they are distinct imprints I feel they should remain separate and that we stay with those names without adding a publisher because of the publisher's inconsistency in dealing with their credits. It may even be better for all pre-1965 records to be either "Crest Books" or "Gold Medal Books" because of the publisher's inconsistency. This should also be done for post-1965 books (like the one above) that don't credit Fawcett on the front covers. I hate to use cover images to identify the publisher credit, but most of these pub records are not primary verified. When I get a better grasp of the publisher's credits I'll present my findings to the group. Mhhutchins 15:15, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Fungi from Yuggoth And Other Poems

I replaced the general interior art title in Fungi from Yuggoth And Other Poems with individual titles for each drawing. I considered using the line of the poem appearing in the caption for the title, but decided to use the title of the poem they illustrate per this help item. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 01:19, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

I nearly forgot I also added the subtitle to "The Poe-et's Nightmare: A Fable" and removed the quotation marks from "Drinking Song from the Tomb" which was listed as Drinking Song from "The Tomb". Thanks. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 01:29, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. Good changes all! --Willem H. 10:16, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Knight's Beyond Tomorrow

In my research into the Fawcett imprints I found this pub, whose publication date appears to be based by the original verifier on the year of copyright. All of the original publications that are close to this catalog number were first published in 1969. This date would seem to be more consistent with the price as well (in 1965 the average Fawcett pb was around 40 cents.) It's also not likely in the sixties that a mass-market paperback reprint would appear in the same year as the hardcover edition. Thanks for looking. Mhhutchins 15:24, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

You're absolutely right. Changed the date to 1969 and added a note. Thanks! --Willem H. 15:57, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Pennington cover?

Found a very nice image for [Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch] and the seller has the cover as by Pennington. It's not on his site, would Jane Frank give a credit? --~ Bill, Bluesman 05:01, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Have a look here ;-). Hauck 06:34, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Nice find. Jane Frank confirms Pennington, so I added some credit and some notes. Thanks! --Willem H. 13:17, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Well, that's a blow to my theory that "Series Covers" are less likely to be reused! Note that it was actually used as early as 1972 for Dune though, perhaps earlier. BLongley 17:55, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

I stand corrected. Adapted my notes again. Thanks, --Willem H. 19:41, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

The Skylark of Space

Just entered [this] seventh printing. You also have a verified [seventh] printing but with a higher price and later catalog #. If your edition is a typical Pyramid there is probably at least one ad in the back to help date the printing. Anything to avoid the dreaded 0000-00-00! Additionally the OCLC record has the publisher as Pyramid Communications, a change from Pyramid Publications which also might help to date. --~ Bill, Bluesman 23:56, 19 December 2011 (UTC)

This makes my edition at least an 8th printing. I think Pyramid forgot to update the copyright page (including the "Pyramid Publications" statement). There's no ad in the back, only for a free catalog. I do remember ordering the whole Skylark series somewhere around 1974. The others are all 7th and 8th printings from 1973, so I suppose "The Skylark of Space" is too. I adapted the notes and changed the publication date. Thanks for this! --Willem H. 20:08, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

You remember 1974???? That whole decade, at least the first part, is a blur [afterimages of the 60s]. ;-) --~ Bill, Bluesman 22:08, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

My short-term memory is completely gone, but 1974 is quite clear. Ok, I admit the 60's are a bit fuzzy, but for a different reason.:-. --Willem H. 19:45, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Dorsai!

Wending my way through Dickson. Jaffery's Retrospective would place the printing date for [this] in November 1977. Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 22:10, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! I found further proof in Locus #207. Changed the date and added notes and frontispiece. --Willem H. 19:57, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Price's Introduction to Alien Flesh

You've verified Seabury Quinn's Alien Flesh which contains an introduction by E. Hoffmann Price. The introduction is reprinted in Price's Book of the Dead with the title "Seabury Quinn: An Appreciation". Could you double check that the introduction is titled simply "Introduction" or whether it has the title of the reprint. I'm trying to determine whether I should merge or make a variant. Thanks. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 01:15, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

You're right. It's as Ïntroduction" on the contents page but as "Seabury Quinn: An Appreciation" on the titlepage. I merged the two under this title. Thanks! --Willem H. 20:03, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Also expanded the notes and added the separate interior art pieces. --Willem H. 20:27, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

The Distant Suns interior art

Hello Willem! The question arose if in your verified pub also is a whole bunch of illustrations (and not only one) and if therefore my merging them was right (see here). Could you be so kind and take a look? Stonecreek 14:38, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

Answered there. --Willem H. 16:14, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

The Cyberiad

Since your [copy] is involved. Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 20:30, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

The Last Castle

Scanned in a new image and adjusted the date for [this]. By checking the ads in the back there are several books verified for September '76 and at least three for October '76. The record had 1973, clearly incorrect. Date chosen still arbitrary but it's the earliest this printing could have been published. --~ Bill, Bluesman 20:31, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Looks reasonable to me. Maybe some of the confusion came from the Ace image library. They list this edition for 1973, but it seems likely they overlooked Ace 47071. Perhaps that one was published in 1973. --Willem H. 21:28, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Comtes[s]e d'Aulnoy

I have on hold an edit to Comtese d'Aulnoy that would add the apparently missing "s" -> Comtesse. This name appears in your verified Supernatural Cats. Would you be so kind as to check it? Thanks. --MartyD 00:19, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

The pub sais Comtesse, so you can approve the edit. Thanks for informing me! --Willem H. 15:57, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Done. Thank you for checking. --MartyD 17:46, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Comtese -> Comtesse

Hi Willem, I saw you once verified the anthology Supernatural Cats, containing a story by a certain Comtese d'Aulnoy. Can you check whether that was a publisher typo, or a typo made earlier for the contents of that anthology? According to my French it ought to be Comtesse d'Aulnoy. For your consolation: it is also mentioned in WorldCat as Comtese, so it looks very much like a publisher goof-up. --Dirk P Broer 09:03, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi Dirk, this was a good catch (see above), but the next time you should ask before submitting. Thanks, --Willem H. 15:59, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

It seemed like such a glaring fault in the canonical name that I edited it before realising the consequences of an edit of the canonical name. Normally I stay away from that field and concentrate on the legal name, birth place and dates of birth and death, plus the occasional weblink and links to wikipedia and IMDb. Won't happen again. --Dirk P Broer 16:04, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

Fall of the Towers

Scanned a new image for [this] and dated it from two ads in the back, both of which have 12-72. Oddly, one of the ads has this book listed. --~ Bill, Bluesman 17:11, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Looks better like this. Thanks! --Willem H. 19:33, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Dutch omnibus

Entered [this] publication, mentioned by Tuck in the Asimov listings. So his story I know what the English is. The other four ...... pretty sure the Heinlein is The Puppet Masters; don't think the Dahl title is in the db at all; the other two I'm stumped. Seem to have lost my Dutch/English dictionary. Could you be so kind as to have a look? Thanks! --~ Bill, Bluesman 02:42, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Nice try. I changed a few things. You were right about Heinlein, but the Brown and Dahl are short short stories, so there's some logic in the fact you couldn't find them. The titles are almost literal translations (Clarke's "Het Einde van het Begin" would have been "Beginning's End" but well, childhood is the beginning of something). I don't think I would have entered this pub before 2013 :( --Willem H. 20:05, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Haven't you trained those cats to type yet?? I didn't think about short stories but then OCLC gave no lengths. Thanks for checking! --~ Bill, Bluesman 23:37, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Rudam for mod?

You seem to have worked with him quite a bit, do you think he's ready for Moderator? (Christian and I have been discussing him, but we haven't actually asked him if he's willing yet.) Christian also thinks Dirk is getting there, but I must admit I almost only ever see Author Updates from him, and not a full range of edit types, so I'd like another opinion or several on him. He's certainly very active! BLongley 19:51, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

I will fully support Rudolf's nomination. I moderated a large number of his edits, with hardly any questions the last months. I would be more careful before letting Dirk loose. He certainly does a lot of good work (wish I had that much spare time), but it took a lot of effort to convince him of the need to source the data in his edits and even more before he started notifying primary verifiers about changes to their pubs. I'm not certain he understands what a primary verification means and I would like to see him ask questions before submitting, when in doubt. Only my opinion of course. --Willem H. 20:10, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the comments. Christian has now asked Rudolf if he thinks he's ready, so if he agrees we'll probably have another European Moderator soon. I'm not sure how to deal with Dirk - if we can get him to push his boundaries a bit and do more general edits than just Author updates, and talk a bit more, then I'm sure he will get to Mod level eventually. But editing activity isn't the only measure, or we'd have Jonschaper and Don Erikson moderating by now. Hmmm.... maybe we need a training course for potential mods? And what happened to GaborLajos? We could really do with some Hungarian expertise. BLongley 22:45, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

Bachman's The Regulators

I've updated and verified this record, adding extensive notes and a record for the credited map. Even though there is no LCCN (that I could find), I kept the record's previous link to the LoC's page. Does your copy contain the LoC CiP data? I also changed the page count from 475 to 466+[9] based on current ISFDB standards, which were changed after Al von Ruff verified the record in 2006. Mhhutchins 01:31, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the additions. Looks good, and conforms with my pub, except for the LCCN note. Yes, my copy contains the full LoC CiP data, including #96-8931 on the copyright page. Shall I change the note? --Willem H. 15:56, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Odd, even for a Stephen King book... Yes, please change the note, perhaps stating that the Primary3 copy has a different copyright page. Here's a scan of the copyright page of my copy. Mhhutchins 20:17, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

I Adapted the note (please check). The LCCN statement is the only difference I can detect. --Willem H. 20:32, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Looks good. Thanks. My copyright page is pretty full. Where does the CiP data appear in relation to the other items shown on the scan of my copy? Mhhutchins 20:47, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

I think they pushed the lines a little closer together. Here is my copyright page. Where yours states the CiP data is available on request, mine has the full data. --Willem H. 21:00, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Curiouser and curiouser... I've been trying to find out if there's any mention of this on the internet. You know there are King completists who know must have figured this one out. Mhhutchins 21:19, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Yes, very strange. Another thing, all three King novels you asked about have the "90000" in the barcode where the price should be. I have one more of those, Dolores Claiborne which you also verified. I'm sure I bought all of these in the Netherlands. Could it have something to do with part of the printrun being exported? On the other hand, I bought more King books over here, that have normal ISBN boxes. Just a thought. --Willem H. 21:48, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

That number appears to be a dead-end. Eight of the ten King Viking editions I have carries the "90000" number, and the other two have "83538" (for a $22.95 book) and "83953" (for a $24.95 book). So I don't know how Viking uses that barcode, certainly not for the price like other publishers. Mhhutchins 22:27, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Poe reviews

Per this discussion I'm going to convert the four dangling Poe reviews to Essay (well, I still may leave the Astoria one a review and add the pub as nongenre -- I'm open to your opinion on that). Doing that will affect your verified The Complete Tales and Poems of Edgar Allan Poe. Let me know if you have any objections. Thanks. --MartyD 02:45, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

A question: How is the reviewed author identified (if at all) in the "Magazine-Writing -- Peter Snook" review? We have it set up as Anonymous, but I'm suspecting it should have been uncredited. I found some information on the Edgar Allan Poe Society site that says the actual author was James (Forbes) Dalton. I did find this seeming to corroborate that. --MartyD 12:20, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

I have no problems with these changes, including the Peter Snook review. I agree, it should have been "uncredited", probably my mistake, I can't remember. --Willem H. 16:13, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Ok, thank you. I will work on them this weekend. --MartyD 11:31, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

King's The Eyes of the Dragon

I was going to add notes to this record when I realized that my copy is not a first edition. There is no statement of edition or number line on the copyright page, and there is no price printed on the dustjacket. In the price section of the barcode on the back of the dustjacket, only the number "90000" appears instead of a price. And to top it all, there's a maple-leaf impressed on the back at the bottom of the cloth section of the book. So I'm thinking my copy may be a Canadian edition and I'm removing my verification of the record. If your copy has a number line, printed price, etc. please take over the primary1 position. Thanks. Mhhutchins 16:47, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

I just noticed that the cover scan you uploaded has the same barcode as mine: "90000" where the price normally is. Mhhutchins 18:31, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

It is a weird one, this. My copy does have a printed price on top of the front flap of the dustjacket (ISBN 0-670-81458-X FTP>$18.95), but no maple leaf anywhere. On the bottom of the front flap is another row of numbers (02182587) that could correspond with the february 1987 publication date mentioned on Locus1. A scan of the copyright page is here so you can compare it with yours. --Willem H. 20:09, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

Your copyright page is identical to mine. The date/price code "02182587" does not appear on my front flap. I've asked Bill (Bluesman), if he's familiar with books published for the Canadian market by American publishers. Mhhutchins 20:25, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

King's Rose Madder

I've updated the notes for this record, adding a note that the LCCN is not stated in the book itself. Could this be the same situation as The Regulators? Mhhutchins 20:45, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

We're lucky with this one. Mine has the same statement. --Willem H. 21:05, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

King's Cycle of the Werewolf

I converted all the pubs of this title (including your verified record) from novels into chapterbooks, adding a novella content record to each. Mhhutchins 03:42, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

As it should have been. Thanks for the change! --Willem H. 21:11, 25 January 2012 (UTC)

The Fury Out of Time

Emailed Currey about this book and he replied that it does state "First Edition" and has a gutter code of "G17" [he currently has one for sale]. I also asked a seller on AbeBooks and the response was the same. So it looks like the publication date from TWSFDB#3 is probably correct. Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 18:20, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. For now I adapted the notes and the publication date. If another primary verifier comes along, I can always clone it for the 2nd printing mine probably is. --Willem H. 20:50, 27 January 2012 (UTC)

Watchers of the Dark

Changed the date of [this] from a note in the OCLC record which has 1975 and "Date supplied by author." Seemed sufficient. Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 04:01, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Good enough for me. Thanks! --Willem H. 08:34, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Monument

Found an OCLC record for [this] that has "Bookjacket illustrated by Tim White" noted. Any chance you missed it? --~ Bill, Bluesman 00:50, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

And [this] later pb with the same cover credits White as well. --~ Bill, Bluesman 00:59, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Searched the pub again, but I missed nothing. Added the credit and a note. Thanks! --Willem H. 18:08, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

"Dark of the Moon" and Other Stories

I've been chatting to Greg Luce over "Armchair Fiction" titles, are you OK with my proposed edit to give him and Leanne Editor credits? BLongley 04:24, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

No problem with me. I added another note, only Gregory J. Luce is credited in the pub. --Willem H. 18:12, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

Cover credit for The Towers of Utopia

Artist for this pub is Bruce Pennington, based on the credited use of the same cover art here. I'll update the record. Mhhutchins 18:25, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! I added the credit to both covers. --Willem H. 20:13, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Perry Rhodan: 'Silberbände'

Hello, Willem! Since you started the entering of the German Perry Rhodan series, maybe you are also interested in this discussion? Stonecreek 19:37, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Laumer's The Monitors

I've accepted a submission that adds the price to the verified record of your price-clipped copy. Mhhutchins 20:44, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Price is logical for that time. Thanks! --Willem H. 21:05, 8 February 2012 (UTC)

Another price added to one that was price-clipped. Mhhutchins 01:08, 9 February 2012 (UTC)

The Dream Master

You verified http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?211637 The Dream Master from Gregg and gave the original price as $10.00, saying it was from a Gregg catalog. In Underwood-Miller's "Amber Dreams", a Roger Zelazny bibliography put together by Daniel J.H. Levack with a number of collaborators in 1983, it shows the original price as $8.50 (p. 36). Any thoughts? Biomassbob 22:55, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for noticing this. I found additional proof in Locus #190 (Books published in June), so I changed the price & notes. Also added the publication month from the copyright page (I managed to miss that). --Willem H. 19:26, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

The Doors of His Face The Lamps of His Mouth by Zelazny

You verified http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?267201 The Doors of His Face, etc by Zelazny. In the notes you say that this edition was published 1971 by F&F. 1971 was Doubleday; F&F published in 1973, as shown on the copyright page. Would you like to change this, or shall I? Biomassbob 17:31, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

You're absolutely right. Corrected this. It looks like you own an impressive Zelazny collection. Trying to make me jealous? :-) --Willem H. 19:32, 14 February 2012 (UTC)

I do have a good many Zelazny books, mostly hardcovers. Some were bloody expensive, as I'm sure you know, although I feel I got them for good prices on a relative basis. At least I can afford Zelazny, unlike say Heinlein. I have noted that I have few new Zelazny books to contribute here; I had more Keith Laumer books to add. And I know of several Laumer books that are not in the data base at all (which I don't own, but know about), which is not true for Zelazny. So you've done a great job for this author before I came along. Biomassbob 20:09, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

I know (sigh), which is why I was so glad with the 6(7) part Nesfa edition. Now at least I have (nearly) every word Zelazny ever published. Most of the Zelazny bibliography was already there before I came along too and, like you, I just added what I had and knew. --Willem H. 20:30, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

The Hugo Winners, Volume 2 (Two)

Another editor has added a later printing of the Doubleday edition of this title, but gave the title with "Two". Can you confirm that your copy of the first printing has "2" on the title page? Thanks. Mhhutchins 19:15, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

Two it is, corrected on pub and title. Should the Locus poll title be changed too? The results in Locus #111 give the title with "Vol.2". Thanks, --Willem H. 19:34, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

I'm not sure that it makes that much difference, since the awards are not linked by title, but by record number. Mhhutchins 00:10, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Cover art credit found

I've found the same art used on the cover of this book on the artist's website. See #8 in the book cover gallery. Mhhutchins 00:05, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

And for this book see #7. Mhhutchins 00:08, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Credite & note added for both. Thanks! --Willem H. 19:45, 16 February 2012 (UTC)

Weird Heroes 8

Is Farmer's foreword in this record spelled correctly? Mhhutchins 03:47, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Yes it is. Should we add notes for this kind of misspelling? --Willem H. 08:36, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Just read your message to Biomassbob. We should to avoid confusion, so I added a note. Thanks! --Willem H. 08:45, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

The Stainless Steel Rat Sings the Blues Harry Harrison 2nd printing

There is advertising in this book with the date 4/97. I think that the publication date for this book is the 1997 too. BarDenis 18:04, 17 February 2012 (UTC)

Makes sense. I changed the date and added a note where it came from. Thanks, --Willem H. 19:53, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

"Night Flight"

Can you check the author credit for the story on page 107 in this collection? Most sources give it as Josephine W. Johnson. Other ones give it as just Josephine Johnson. I believe all records in the db may have been cloned from an incorrect record. Thanks for looking. Mhhutchins 22:01, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

I went ahead and accepted the submission changing it to "Josephine W. Johnson". Please let me know if this is incorrect. Mhhutchins 16:25, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

I couldn't respond sooner, work keeps me away from my collection too often. "Josephine W. Johnson" is abslutely correct, don't know how I missed that. Thanks! --Willem H. 16:42, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Dagen van Gras, Dagen van Stro / Ringing Changes

Shouldn't the Variant for [this] be the other way around? Dutch edition precedes the sole English one by five years! And it seems really odd to have three of the Dutch stories as variants of the English versions when they were the first such titles and have yet to be reprinted?? --~ Bill, Bluesman 22:20, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

I agree it looks weird, but I only followed the rules "If a book was written in one language, but a foreign language translation was published first, then the original language title is entered as the canonical title and the translated title is entered as a Variant Title." Lafferty certainly didn't write Dutch. --Willem H. 14:46, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Rocannon's World

Dated [this] from ads in the back and found a signature on the cover. Maybe you know the full name? --~ Bill, Bluesman 22:41, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the date! No idea about the artist (could be Gabe Leonard if he was active in 1972, or an infinite number of other Leonards) --Willem H. 15:12, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Ships to the Stars

Please have a look at [this] discussion/note. Thanks! --~ Bill, Bluesman 00:23, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Looked and despaired. Sigh... --Willem H. 16:05, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Earthman's Burden

Please see this discussion. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 01:37, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

Seen. Thanks for noticing. --Willem H. 06:45, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

"Let There Be Light" in Heinlein's The Man Who Sold the Moon

Can you confirm that the story is not in quotation marks on its title page in this publication? Some of the later Signet printings and NEL editions have it in quotes. Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 22:29, 3 March 2012 (UTC)

No, the quotation marks are there (and in my other edition too). I sure missed a lot in those early verifications. I corrected the title for the first and 9th Signet printing. Should the variant relation not be reversed, since we have the Shasta edition with quotation marks too? Thanks, --Willem H. 09:54, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

If it's determined that the majority of reprints used the marks, I agree that the relationship should be reversed. I'll leave notes on the other verifiers to recheck their publications. Thanks. Mhhutchins 15:43, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

"Jirel of Joiry", by C. L. Moore

As a primary2 verifier, you may be interested in the note I left for the primary verifier:

I've corrected an error in your verified edition of this publication. The ToC of that book lists "Hellsgarde" as starting on p. 140, and that's what's entered in our contents. But that story actually begins on p. 139, so I've corrected that entry, and made a note about the ToC error. Chavey 05:20, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Good correction. Thanks! --Willem H. 10:15, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Burn, Witch, Burn! cover artist

Hello Willem, I added the cover artist for this pub. My source was Woodroffe's Mythopoeikon. Also take a look at this pub. Stonecreek 10:56, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Good find. Thanks! --Willem H. 11:13, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Earthman's Burden

Please see this discussion. Thanks. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 16:10, 4 March 2012 (UTC)

Evolution

Hi, Willem. Could you please check that this verified pub indeed has 10-ISBN (and not 13-ISBN) listed in the book. Cheers, P-Brane 01:50, 5 March 2012 (UTC).

Only the 13-ISBN. Corrected now. Thanks for catching this! --Willem H. 16:03, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

Thanks!