Difference between revisions of "Help talk:How to verify data"

From ISFDB
Jump to navigation Jump to search
(→‎Primary Verification: remove/reword "I" comments)
Line 5: Line 5:
 
Primary verification should mean that all fields are complete...with a few exceptions:  
 
Primary verification should mean that all fields are complete...with a few exceptions:  
 
# ISBN field for older works (roughly pre-1970) may be absent. Supply a catalog number if one is present on the cover, spine, back cover, copyright or title page. (Enter that with a "#" in front to stop the bibliographic warnings.) Magazines may use an ISSN instead.
 
# ISBN field for older works (roughly pre-1970) may be absent. Supply a catalog number if one is present on the cover, spine, back cover, copyright or title page. (Enter that with a "#" in front to stop the bibliographic warnings.) Magazines may use an ISSN instead.
# Price field if there is no printed price on your copy. If your copy has no dustjacket or is price-clipped, note that in the pub's note field. (I rarely verify a pub of this type, hoping that someone else who has a more intact copy will come along.)
+
# Price field if there is no printed price on your copy. If your copy has no dustjacket or is price-clipped, note that in the pub's note field. (Some editors refrain from verifying a publication of this type, hoping that someone else who has a more intact copy will come along.)
 
# Cover artist, where the artist is not credited within the pub.  You can make an educated guess if there is a visible signature, but make a note to that effect in the pub's note field.  
 
# Cover artist, where the artist is not credited within the pub.  You can make an educated guess if there is a visible signature, but make a note to that effect in the pub's note field.  
 
# If the work is an anthology or collection, you should enter all contents before marking the pub is verified.   
 
# If the work is an anthology or collection, you should enter all contents before marking the pub is verified.   
  
*Please feel free to verify any pub that you have in hand and from which you are entering information, whether that pub record was previously created or one which you created yourself.  But '''wait''' until all submissions have been accepted by a mod before verifying the pub.  A mod gets a warning message if a submission changes a verified pub and we have to take an extra step to make sure that the person making the changes is the same one who verified it.
+
*Please feel free to verify any pub that you have in hand and from which you are entering information, whether that pub record was previously created or one which you created yourself.  But '''wait''' until all submissions have been accepted by a mod before verifying the pub.  A mod gets a warning message if a submission changes a verified pub and the moderator has to take an extra step to make sure that the person making the changes is the same one who verified it.
**If a moderator rejects a change, or accepts but adjusts an edit, it's '''YOUR''' name there on the verification and '''YOU''' will get questions. Adding data is usually fine. Correcting data - well, be careful about contents, you're working on every entry for that title we have, NOT just the entry in the work in front of you. We all got caught out with that at least once, and the workaround (Add new title, remove old title, merge new title if necessary) does mean a bit of a wait for approvals at times.
+
**Additional reasons for not verifing chages that have not yet been approved: If a moderator rejects a change, or accepts but adjusts an edit, it's '''YOUR''' name there on the verification and '''YOU''' will get questions. Adding data is usually fine. Correcting data - well, be careful about contents, you're working on every entry for that title we have, NOT just the entry in the work in front of you. We all got caught out with that at least once, and the workaround (Add new title, remove old title, merge new title if necessary) does mean a bit of a wait for approvals at times.
 
*It is a matter of courtesy to inform the verifier of changes you make to their verified pubs and it is strongly encouraged that you notify them first if the change is particularly significant.
 
*It is a matter of courtesy to inform the verifier of changes you make to their verified pubs and it is strongly encouraged that you notify them first if the change is particularly significant.

Revision as of 16:12, 25 January 2008

I would put the following section into this page before the Verification Rules section, were it not locked. Pretty much all of this is adapted from ISFDB:Help desk#Change and verify?. I request a moderator/admin to review this change and insert it if it seems a good idea. -DES Talk 07:01, 25 Jan 2008 (CST)

Primary Verification

Primary verification should mean that all fields are complete...with a few exceptions:

  1. ISBN field for older works (roughly pre-1970) may be absent. Supply a catalog number if one is present on the cover, spine, back cover, copyright or title page. (Enter that with a "#" in front to stop the bibliographic warnings.) Magazines may use an ISSN instead.
  2. Price field if there is no printed price on your copy. If your copy has no dustjacket or is price-clipped, note that in the pub's note field. (Some editors refrain from verifying a publication of this type, hoping that someone else who has a more intact copy will come along.)
  3. Cover artist, where the artist is not credited within the pub. You can make an educated guess if there is a visible signature, but make a note to that effect in the pub's note field.
  4. If the work is an anthology or collection, you should enter all contents before marking the pub is verified.
  • Please feel free to verify any pub that you have in hand and from which you are entering information, whether that pub record was previously created or one which you created yourself. But wait until all submissions have been accepted by a mod before verifying the pub. A mod gets a warning message if a submission changes a verified pub and the moderator has to take an extra step to make sure that the person making the changes is the same one who verified it.
    • Additional reasons for not verifing chages that have not yet been approved: If a moderator rejects a change, or accepts but adjusts an edit, it's YOUR name there on the verification and YOU will get questions. Adding data is usually fine. Correcting data - well, be careful about contents, you're working on every entry for that title we have, NOT just the entry in the work in front of you. We all got caught out with that at least once, and the workaround (Add new title, remove old title, merge new title if necessary) does mean a bit of a wait for approvals at times.
  • It is a matter of courtesy to inform the verifier of changes you make to their verified pubs and it is strongly encouraged that you notify them first if the change is particularly significant.