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illustrator

ISFDB:Policy > Contents/Project Scope Policy > Definitions

Speculative fiction is defined to exclude: [first two of six items, the only ones that carry question marks]

• Techno-thriller, political thriller and satire works set in a future indistinguishable from the present (?)
• Fairy tales with no known author (?)

collections of folklore with no known editor? oral historian?

adaptation as a novel, perhaps episodic?

adaptation of Homer?

2019

Source disambiguation -done October 2019

The Independent (New York) --not London

The Globe (Toronto) --not Boston

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el   Nicholas Tucker, ed. 30756 (14) 

As editor:

• Suitable for Children?: Controversies in Children's Literature (Chatto and Windus, 1976), https://lccn.loc.gov/77-353524 ; (Sussex University Press, 1978) BL 014011648
• Children's Book Publishing in Britain Since 1945, ed. Kimjberley Reynolds and Tucker (Scolar Press, 1998), https://lccn.loc.gov/97-19546 BL 007460631

Alice

Alice in Orchestralia, published first in the US, contains a Foreword by Walter Damrosch, "long-time director of the New York Symphony Orchestra" (Wikipedia).

Alice in Orchestra Land, published in the UK, contains a Foreword by Malcolm Sargent, "chief conductor of London's internationally famous summer music festival the Proms from 1948 to 1967" (Wikipedia).--fashioned "Dr. Malcolm Sargent, F.R.C.M." on original front jacket

check page numbers of eds./printings

Radio serial adaptation 1934-04-13 Boston [2] NBC-WEEI network today at 5:45; title listing without explanation same day The Globe (Toronto) p8

also NYT -04-15 pX8, SLPD -04-26 and others Apr/May

~270 of 299 listings are 1934/1935, all radio ?

Malcolm Sargent (1895–1967) --Dr. Malcolm Sargent, F.R.C.M EN https://lccn.loc.gov/n82006515 
Walter Damrosch (1862–1950) EN https://lccn.loc.gov/no91016435  
n   .Malcolm Easton 178714 (11) uncertain identity Noted ✓  https://www.worldcat.org/identities/lccn-n50-024423
 lw .Grace Huxtable 232164 (2)[many] 
 lw .Carroll C. Snell 232163 (0)[3] 
elw  Ernest La Prade 232162 (4)[many] 

1. 1925 T2023497 Fo[3](29) --radioplay Adapted by the author from his novel of the same name. o[4] --(c)1950 Music o[5]

LOA..i 1925, ill Snell

BOA..i 1925uk Heinemann --Printed in USA, identical page-count, no report of illustrations

1928 D, Doran o[6]

1930 " " o[7] BL 004100393

1936 " " ASIN: B000JWDYPW o[8] --q

1937 " " ASIN: B0008B3THC (no image)

1938 " " catalogued as musical score o[9]

1941 " " o[10]

1932 34 37 40 43 44 45(D, Doran) 46(Doubleday & Co.) 48 49 52 55 --also found at WorldCat

1925^ 26^ 27^ 28 29 31 32 33^ 36 37^ 38^ 40 41 43^ 44^ 45 46! 49^ 55! --found at ABEbooks (93 hits) (^ w cover, different from our 1925; 26 yellow, 33 orange, 37/38 blue)

! 1926 27 29 30 --at ABEbooks w jacket, same as 1926 newspaper illustration 1930, multiple

!! 1937 43 46 55 --at ABEbooks w jacket, same as our 1925 book cover

1925 w jacket, same as ours, does not state First Edition 1925, spurious?

1925 w cover, orange matches 1926-38, not our 1925 image

1925 no cover image, "2 beautiful plates"

1926 w cover, "Appendix contains notes on the lives of the composers and sample programs."

1926 w cover, "Includes Appendix with Typical Program of Concerts for Children and Young People."

1933 w cover "frontispiece depicts Titania, Queen of the Fairies"

1937 w jacket "Part-color frontis and textual line art."; another w both jacket, cover

1946 D & Co, no image "[xi],171 pp., illus. w/ three-color frontis., b&w plates. 1946 ptg. Pale pink dust jacket ..."

1955 D & Co, w jacket, "xii]+171 pages with frontispiece, illustrations and appendix. Octavo (7 1/2" x 5 1/4") bound in original publisher's green cloth with yellow lettering to spine and cover in original pictorial jacket"

1955 another w jacket, yellow

BLOAm£i 1934uk Orchestra Land, 1st/2nd Fo[11](13)

1935uk, 3rd printing --ASIN: B001PF5C8Y --niW

1949 o[12]

1955, 8th o[13] o[14]

1958, 9th o[15] (year from Index)

1934 35 38 49 51 55 58 --years listed at ABEbooks (18 records)

!! 1934 w jacket, same as 1935 at Amazon multiple

! 51 58 multiple w jacket, differs one as 174pp

2. 1929 T2023502 Fo[16](4)

LOA.$i 1929, decorated by Jay ASIN: B00087PCJO

ABEbooks (6 hits, all 1929 no image, except one 1941 w jacket multiple)

BOA.£i 1952uk Music Land, ill Huxtable Fo[17](5) --ASIN: B0007DT3R6

LO.$ 1953, ill Huxtable --"printed label pasted over imprint" o[18]

ABEbooks (4 hits, all as 1952, one w orange cover matches ours --Alice seated at upright piano)

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ISFDB series Alice

works in fiction Series, not by Lewis Carroll

NOVEL

1895 Richards 831894 ** T831894

1925 La Prade 2023497 ** above #1

1929 La Prade ** above #2

1984 Adair 17817 ** T17817

2004 Carter 152856 T152856 --ni Wikipedia; "Alice's Journey Beyond The Moon" 91pp

2009 Sheppard 1165533 ** T1165533

2015 Maguire 1903301 T1903301 --ni Wikipedia; After Alice

SHORT

1985 Razzi 27134 T27134 --"Alice's Wonderland Adventure" --NEED co-author Carroll

2011 Young 1334017 T1334017 --"The World in a Thimble" novella --one of four novellas in anthology (re)Visions: Alice; others not in ISFDB series Alice

COLLECTION

1988 Amadio T504711 --ni Wikipedia; The New Adventures of Alice in Rainforest Land

Wikipedia: Category:Books based on Alice in Wonderland A

   The Admiral's Caravan -- T1254179 1892 Carryl novella (as NOVEL)
   Alice in Blunderland: An Iridescent Dream -- T975334 1907 Bangs novelette
   Alice in Orchestralia ** T2023497 (above)
   Alice Through the Needle's Eye ** T17817 1984 Adair
   Alice's Adventures in Wonderland Retold in Words of One Syllable
   ArchEnemy == The Looking Glass Wars #3
   Automated Alice -- T5810 1896 Jeff Noon
   Clara in Blunderland -- T1085855 1902 "Caroline Lewis", series Clara #1
   Davy and the Goblin -- T876915 1885 Carryl novella
   From Nowhere to the North Pole --nidb EN 1875 children's novel
"one of the many Alice in Wonderland imitations published in the 19th century"
   Gladys in Grammarland --nidb EN 1897 "educational imitation"
published 2010 by Evertype with Alice in Grammarland
   John Bull's Adventures in the Fiscal Wonderland --nidb EN 1904 "political parody"
published 2010 by Evertype
   The Looking Glass Wars -- 2004 Beddor T184673, series same name #1
   Lost in Blunderland == Clara #2
   New Adventures of Alice -- T1157756 1917 Rae
   A New Alice in the Old Wonderland ** T831894 1895 Richards
   Rollo in Emblemland -- 1902 Bangs & Macauley T1209134
   Seeing Redd == The Looking Glass Wars #2
   Silverlock -- T1211 (Commonwealth of Letters)
   Visitors from Oz -- T19438 1998 Gardner (chiefly Oz)
   The Westminster Alice -- T823825 1902 Saki novelette
   Wonderland Revisited and the Games Alice Played There -- T1165533 2009 Sheppard

not at Wikipedia

   Alice in Blunderland [2] -- T1328796 1983 Anderson & Kidner

Euro2020

updated 2019-11-03 (matches 11-14/16 and 11-17/19)

Euro2020 Qualifying

Many teams have another chance to fill one of 4 places in the 24-team tournament, in playoffs based on last year's Nations League, level A to D.

Teams in Groups A-E (25) have played 6 or 7 games each, out of 8. Points are not comparable to Groups F-J. A Engl 15 v Mont @ Koso ** Czec 12 v Koso @ Bulg * Koso 11 @ Czec v Engl * Mont _3 @ Engl ------ Bulg _3 ------ @ Czec • Kosovo plays both leaders.

B Ukra 19 ------ @ Serb (clinched) Port 11 v Lith @ Luxe ** Serb 10 v Luxe v Ukra (tiny chance) Luxe _4 @ Serb v Port Lith _1 @ Port ------ • Portugal plays two minnows.

C Germ 15 v Bela v NIre ** Neth 15 @ NIre v Esto ** NIre 12 v Neth @ Germ (tiny chance) Bela _4 @ Germ ------ Esto _1 ------ @ Neth • N. Ireland plays both leaders.

D Irel 12 ------ v Denm o (good chance) Denm 12 v Gibr @ Irel * Swit 11 v Geor @ Gibr * Geor _8 @ Swit ------ Gibr _0 @ Denm v Swit • Denmark visits Ireland. • Switzerland plays two minnows. Ireland needs a win, and a 1-goal win is enough unless Switzerland draws one. If Switzerland draw v Georgia (the only plausible draw), Ireland will host Denmark knowing that a 2-goal win is needed, and Denmark knowing that a 1-goal loss is adequate.

E Croa 14 v Slov ------ * Hung 12 ------ @ Wale * Slov 10 @ Croa v Azer * Wale _8 @ Azer v Hung o (good chance) Azer _1 v Wale @ Slov Croatia will clinch with a draw v Slovakia, and will advance with a loss unless Hungary win @ Wales. Hungary practically needs a win, as Slovakia wins the tiebreaker. Wales practically needs two wins, which will be adequate with a Slovakia loss @ Croatia. 3-way tie (good enough for Croatia) requires only if Slovakia win @ Croatia and lose v Azerbaijan --shouldn't happen.

Teams in Groups F-J (30) have played 8 games each, out of 10. Points are not comparable to Groups A-D.

F Spai 20 v Malt v Roma (clinched) Swed 15 @ Roma v Faro * Roma 14 v Swed @ Spai * Norw 11 v Faro @ Malt (tiny chance) Malt _3 @ Spai v Norw Faro _3 @ Norw @ Swed • Romania plays the two leaders. • Norway plays two minnows. --good chance to finish third Romania needs a win v Sweden and may need another @ Spain.

G Pola 19 @ Isra v Slov (clinched) Aust 16 v Mace @ Latv ** Slov 11 v Latv @ Pola (tiny chance) Mace 11 @ Aust v Isra (tiny chance) Isra 11 v Pola @ Mace (tiny chance) Latv _0 @ Slov v Aust • This is Slovenia. Austria needs only a draw @ Latvia, unless lose to Macedonia by multiple goals.

H Turk 19 v Icel @ Ando ** Fran 19 v Mold @ Alba ** Icel 15 @ Turk @ Mold (tiny chance) Alba 12 v Ando v Fran Mold _3 @ Fran v Icel Ando _3 @ Alba v Turk •

I Belg 24 @ Russ v Cypr (clinched) Russ 21 v Belg @ SanM (clinched) Cypr 10 v Scot @ Belg Scot _9 @ Cypr v Kaza Kaza _7 @ SanM @ Scot SanM _0 v Kaza v Russ •

J Ital 24 @ Bosn v Arme (clinched) Finl 15 v Liec @ Gree ** Arme 10 v Gree @ Ital (tiny chance) Bosn 10 v Ital @ Liec (tiny chance) Gree _8 @ Arme v Finl Liec _2 @ Finl v Bosn • Finland probably doesn't need even one draw.

November

British library search

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publishers

Dent and/or Dutton eds. WB TT (Wonder Book Tanglewood Tales)

1906 --BL 001623520 o[19] ; o[20] xi,406

o[21] as 1906 310pp

1909 --BL 007592762 o[22]

1910 ix, 364 \Granville Fell --BL 001623529 o[23]

[1927] --BL 001623548

[1933] x, 310 --(reset 1924) LC https://lccn.loc.gov/36037038 o[24]

HMCo early eds

1883 o[25] no data

1892 \Crane o[26] vi,421

The Dial 1900-05-01 p340-43 "American Publishing and Publishers", Francis F. Browne, survey covering The Dial's 20 years

McClure, Phillips

[27] NYT 1900-04-14 pBR1 "The first book to be issued ..." (The Green Flag by Conan Doyle is another fc early May; later fc as -05-25; -05-19 as "next Saturday"; -05-26 as "Published To-day", ie yday?)

street address as 131-141 E 25th St (-05-03) 141-155 (-05-12)

Coverage of new books from Doubleday & McClure continues thru 1900.

Swordpoint

Publisher Swordpoint Intercontinental, Limited

Another by (Joseph A.) J. A. Greenleaf and John Quigley

Amazon US as tp 2011-05-10 (ebook ASIN: B004X1U1VK as -04-17)

Roycroft, Kelmscott

1901 newspapers

("roycroft shop") 67 --routine in The Philistine inclg advertisement footers

("roycroft press") 6 --none in The Philistine, in secondary work

("roycroft printing [shop]") 2 --one as proper noun, in secondary work

https://lccn.loc.gov/

• ISFDB publisher Kelmscott Press (52) https://lccn.loc.gov/n82126751 https://www.worldcat.org/identities/lccn-n82-126751

(The) Roycroft Campus, Roycroft Press, Roycroft Printing Shop, Roycroft Shop, ISFDB The Roycrofters, ISFDB Roycroft

[28] The Globe (Toronto) 1901-03-22 "Art in Bookmaking" --lecture by Hubbard, advanced as the event of the art season

[29] The Philistine 1901-10-01 (also -11-01) advertisement as Dreams by O.S. ... The Roycrofters --monthly publication?

[30] NYT 1901-08-17 pBR14 --hourly rail service to East Aurora during Pan-American exhibition

Wikipedia:

"... Although called the "Roycroft Press" by latter-day collectors and print historians, the organization called itself "The Roycrofters" and "The Roycroft Shops".

"Hubbard edited and published two magazines, The Philistine and The Fra. ..."

The Philistine is monthly, evidently as 1901 Oct and Nov are 13.5 and 13.6 ; HDL catalogues 41 semi-annual volumes, publ by "The Society".

v13 n1 opens with advertisement as The Roycrofters unnumbered --192 numbered pages among 398 images

v13 n6 advertisements include Dreams, The Roycrofters, Nov 1901

• Roycroft Shop (34) https://lccn.loc.gov/n79126994 https://www.worldcat.org/identities/lccn-n79-126994

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Schreiner

Olive Schreiner 139764 (79)

FMI [31] --Dreams as 1890 "Donohoe"

ISFDB

• 1890 Dreams, 11-collection T2621275

LOH.. 1891us Robert Brothers --to be continued

O.. 1896 OMNIBUS with Dr. Jekyll

LO.$ 1901 So Here Then Are Dreams --with "Life's Gifts" in fourth place (noted)

d$i 2016 46pp --from Amazon (CreateSpace; now as published by Olive Schreiner)

d$i 2017 84pp --from Amazon w page numbers

• 1923 Stories, Dreams, 22-collection T2118591

O.. 1923uk Unwin --Contents list from Reginald

--nidb-- 1923us Stokes https://lccn.loc.gov/23006694 -HDL

1923 Stories, Dreams, and Alleghories Fo[32](28) --our source of Contents list is unknown; "Life's Gifts" is from Dreams

1923 Stokes t.p. 1923 Stokes with cover and lavish endpapers --2nd printing -03-17 (prior to publication 03-22) --printed US --preface closes "S. C. Cronwright-Schhreiner." and Cape Town, South Africa, October, 1922." --as previously unpublished, but "Life's Gifts" is a title from 1890

FMI [33]

• Modern authors' library #59 --as two different OMNIBUS(?) containing Dr. Jekyll, first, and another work

http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/52421481 118+27 (record implies no collective t.p.)

http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/50266403 118+128 "no collective t.p."

BL

Dreams - Unwin as 1891 2nd 3rd (2 records each); 1892 4th ; 1893 5th

1923uk BL 003296862

2003 Three Works (Dreams -- Dream life and real life -- Stories, dreams and allegories.) BL 019399039 006961606

LC --nidb only

• EN93 1893 Dreams and Real Life https://lccn.loc.gov/12010051 --distinct
• 1909 The Lost Joy, and Other Dreams https://lccn.loc.gov/12038281 o[1053731] --contains 8 of 11
• EN29 1928 Undine https://lccn.loc.gov/29000694 o[423769] xv 374
• 2003 Dreams: Three Works (1890, 1893, 1923) https://lccn.loc.gov/2004445789

WorldCat Dreams Fo[34](267)

[1888?] Munro's, by Ralph Iron o[21566034]

1890 or 1890s Lovell Bros, Lovell Gestefeld, Unwin, Fisher, Munro's, Donohue, Hennneberry, Benn, Conkey, Little Brown, Wilmore Andrews (11 +3)

Caldwell-HDL,

[189-?] Mershon-HDL (ANTH) o[35] 128, 109

[189-?] Home Book Co-HDL (ANTH) o[36] 128, 109

1891 Unwin 2nd 3rd, 5th; Lovell Bros, National, PFCollier (4 +1)

1891 Roberts Bros (Author's ed.)-HDL o[37] 182

newspapers

("olive schreiner" dreams) 1890 (47)

[38] Liberty -02-15 p8 "Three Dreams in a Desert", poem

NYT -03-03 p3 "a small volume of allegories" sent from Cape Town to England

several? stories publ in newspapers or magazines

Ath #3283 -09-27 p417ff [418: Unwin announces ... "In romance: Dreams by Miss Olive Schreiner ..."]

Academy -10-18 "Fcap. 8vo, buckram, gilt, 6s.   [In preparation."

[39] Acad -12-13 p545

National Observer (Edinburgh) -12-20 p132 "Books of the Week" listing 6s.

The Scotsman -12-22 p3 --review (par. 28 of 36)

1891 (104)

[40] Ath 3298 1891-01-10 p46.47 --review

Publication date from notice in "Books and Bookmakers", American Bookseller 1891-01-17 p31, "Roberts Brothers will publish three notable volumes on January 15: ...". Price from listing in "Books Received", NY Times 1891-01-19 p3.

-- another, The Science of Fairy Tales: An Inquiry [in ?] Fairy Mythology. Edwin Sidney Hartland of the Society of Antiquaries. Scribner & Welford. 1891. Cloth, $1.25.

Reviews Life 1891-01-29 p68 (sophomoric maunderings; two "have a value of their own as fanciful writing--"Three Dreams in a Desert" and "A Dream of Wild Bees".); Chi. Tribune -01-31 p13

Current Literature, v6 = 1891-01/04 (change from Jan-Jun, Jul-Dec)

Current Literature v6 n4 (April) advert second edition

The Book Buyer 1891-04-01 p130 "Second Edition. 16mo, cloth, price, $1.00."

[41] The Critic -11-28 pIV Roberts Bros "Some Holiday Books", Author's ed. with portrait. $1.00

--others include Wolfings and Glittering Plain by William Morris

The Spectator 1891-01-31 p142 Fisher Unwin adverts 2nd edition. Front. portrait. Cloth, 6s.

The Observer 1891-03-15 p8 Fisher Unwin advert 3rd edition. Frontis. Portrait. Cloth, 6s.

Ath -11-14 p639, Third, 6s.

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E. S. Hartland

el   Edwin Sidney Hartland 166301 (23) 

The Science of Fairy Tales: An Inquiry into Fairy Mythology T1359423

Fo[42](63)
HDL 1891 91 97 04 07 16 68

"1897 W. Scott" (Walter Scott, Ltd.; Scribner's Sons) Scribner's cover and back pages adverts, this series to XXXIV

New Books imported by Charles Scribner's Sons [373-78]; Contemporary Science [379-82]; Ibsen's Dramas [383] --11 unnumbered pages

"1904 Walter Scott" (Walter Scott Publ Co ; Scribner's Sons)

"1907 The Walter Scott Publishing Co., Ltd." (same) ; "1916 W. Scott Pub Co." (same as 1904/1907 except Scribner's now 597 Fifth Avenue)

1968 Singing Tree Press--NOVIEW

Indiana U copy as 1891 is 1968 Singing Tree, mfg Arno Press t.p. 1891 "now reissued", no back pages

U California with original cover; front leaf series list I-XXVI, this vol as XI (implies a later binding if not printing); back pages The Scott Library [373-78] #1-91; Great Writers [379-82]; Books of Fairy Tales [383]; other [384-88] (16 pages unnumbered)

back pages "London: Walter Scott, Limited, Paternoster Square."

Vol XVI published 1894; HDL copy with back pages footer "London: Walter Scott, Limited, 24 Warwick Lane"

HDL 1891 back pages "London: Walter Scott, 24 Warwick Lane, Paternoster Row"

HathiTrust Digital Library provides full view of one copy with original cover (mis-catalogued with one copy of 1968 reissue by Singing Tree Press): -- <a href="https://hdl.handle.net/2027/mdp.39015058483598?urlappend=%3Bseq=2">title page</a> -- Preface, [v]-vi, closes "E. S. H.", 1890-10-24 As assembled at HathiTrust, half-title leaf not included in the pagination between Preface and Contents; appears to belong before title leaf as pp. [i/ii] -- Bibliography, p[353]-65; Index, [367]-72 -- publisher advertisements, unnumbered p[373]-p(376) (viewed at HathiTrust, which features The Contemporary Science Series

maybe published December 1890 (as 1891) (6 hits 1890)

advert Scott as "about 19th December", National Observer (Edinb.) 1890-11-22 p.viii "Crown 8vo, cloth, Price 3s. 6d. per Volume; Half Morocco, 6s. 6d. per Volume."

advert Scribner & W without comment, Literary World: A Monthly (1890-12-06) "Each volume containing 300 or 400 pages and illustrated[ha!]. Cloth, 12mo, each $1.25."

The Academy #971 1890-12-13 p551, listing as "to be published on 15th December"

The Spectator 1890-12-20 p916, listing in "Publications of the Week"

Ath #3297 1891-01-03 p32 "Walter Scott's New Publications", as latest volume

"This volume deals with those fairy tales or folk-tales which contain a supernatural element, and which are known as Sagas and Nursery Tales (or Marchen)--tales which are known to be often of world-wide extension, and the study of which is now an important and fascinating branch of Folk-lore."

Am Bk -01-03 p3 "Latest Publications", as "Il., clo., $1.25." --but unillustrated? [and -01-17 p22 "Latest English Publications", 3/6]

reviews include Joseph Jacobs, Folklore (semiannual), January, p123

Scribner & W --WorldCat

viii 372 o[449853] o[752261693] o[1474036] all as 19cm; o[901813869] as 18cm; and o[1049067323] as XII

(microfilm) viii 335 o[43]

1891us https://lccn.loc.gov/17015426

[1891] Stokes o[44]

1925 Methuen 2nd ed. BL 001607373 xii 372 and BL 007588719 007588800 ; WorldCat #35-43

1968 https://lccn.loc.gov/68031149 -HDL--NOVIEW = W. Scott ; BL 013872151 viii 372 o[449853] ; WorldCat #44-51

21c facsimile of 1914 Scribner's o[45]

LC and BL

• 1890 Scott ; English fairy and other folk tales --BL 007588710 BL 001607362 as Camelot Classics [1890]

1893 Scott BL 001607363 xxxvi 282, illus Brock

• 1891 Scott ; The Science of Fairy Tales: An Inquiry into Fairy Mythology

1891uk https://lccn.loc.gov/04000899 -HDL

as Contemporary Science Series BL 007588718 BL 001607372 viii 372

• 1892 Nutt ; Gloucestershire. Ed., with suggestions for the collection of the folk-lore of the county ; BL 001607361 as "County Folk-Lore. Printed extracts. no. 1 ..."
• 1894/96 Nutt ; Legend of Perseus: a study of tradition in story custom and belief --3vol BL 006822510 007588712 and as Grimm Library BL 001607366
• 1899 Nutt ; Folklore: what is it and what is the good of it[?] --BL 001607365
• 1900 Nutt ; Mythology and folktales; their relation and interpretation --BL 001607367
• 1909 (intro only) Folk-Lore and Folk-Stories of Wales BL 003672787 xiii 350
• 1909/10 Nutt ; Primitive paternity; the myth of supernatural birth in relation to the history of the family --2vol BL 007588715 001607369 011836226
• 1912 BL 002101951 The Folk-Lore of Herefordshire, collected from oral and printed sources
• 1914 Williams ; Ritual and belief; studies in the history of religion --BL 001607371 BL 007588717 007588716
• 1917 Matrilinial [!] kinship, and the question of its priority
• 1921 Methuen ; Primitive society, the beginnings of the family & the reckoning of descent --BL 001607370 BL 007588889
• 1922 Clarendon ; Evolution of kinship; an African study --BL 001607364
• 1924 Methuen ; Primitive law --BL 001607368

Armour Macdougall

els  G. Firth Scott 19766 (5)

The Last Lemurian T1085492 o[6660409] ; BL 003314676 ; Arno reprint o[3630420]

found in UK newspaper (no price) --check again

("the last lemurian") 1897--1899 (32 hits: 2 29 1) chiefly 1898-May to Nov

1897 th #36467 1897-09-18 p388 "The Autumn Publishing Season", listing among "Mr. James Bowden's forthcoming books"

[46] The Academy: Spring Announcements Supplement #1350 1898-03-19 p313-22 p321 "Mr. Bowden sends uus the following list of forthcoming novels:"

Ath #3680 1898-05-07 p599 "cr. 8vo. 6/ cl."

[47] The Speaker -05-14 619-20 "Fiction", 2nd of 3 reviewed

Ath #3682 -05-221 p649 "Mr. James Bowden's Publications" : Crown 8vo. attractive cloth, 3s. 6d. ; With 3 illustrations by Stanley L. Wood.

Sat Rvw #2225 -06-18 p825 "Fiction" brief [48]

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el   Margaret Armour, transl 163288 (14)
el  .W. B. Macdougall 163289 (2) --book illustration mainly/only translations by his sister?

HDL search (18 hits --inclg Eerie 1, Nib[e]lung 9, Gudrun 1)

LC (14 --inclg Eerie 1, Nib[e]lung 9, Gudrun 2)

Works of Heinrich Heine 1891-1905 (multiple translators)

Home and Early Haunts of [RLS] 1895

Gudrun

"In 1910 she translated The Ring of the Nibelung by Richard Wagner, and in 1928 she translated Gudrun." --Wikipedia

LC

[28] Dutton https://lccn.loc.gov/29017273 -HDL

[32] Dent Dutton https://lccn.loc.gov/a32002144

HDL [1928] Dutton xiii 215 front/t.p. undated Dutton v-viii Intro, ix-xi Contents, xii List of Ill, xiii Rhys, p1-215 (216/217)

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The Eerie Book T1337014

BLOH..ic 1898uk Shiells --"Work in progress, not to be completed 2019-11-07: ..."

O.$c 1898us Mansfield

O..ic 1981 Castle Books

HDL 1898 t.p. 1898; p(212) printer "colophon"?

The Supernatural Index (TSI, Ashley/Contento) (viewed piecemeal at Google Books) --Bluesman source for ISFDB Contents

p723 Book Contents "... Details taken from the Castle Books facsimile edition, 1981."

outstanding issues re 1898 contents

Reynolds ex ----NOVEL, 1847 (thus an excerpt)✓

Andersen 1847 or 1848?

Hunt ex ----ANTHOLOGY, 1865 ed. without Contents P281664

Crowe coll. 1859 or 1858?

Crowe The Blind Beggar 1848? ----COLLECTION, 1859 ed. with Contents (only 2 Eerie stories) P444461

A Dream of Death ex

Savile ex (2) ---- Apparitions: A Narrative of Facts, 1874 t.p. 1874 (Internet Archive)

ch XVI 189-97 "The Mysterious Horseman" p189

ch XIX 221-30 "Marshal Blucher" p221

Chambers ex ----SHORTFICTION (2 titles as 1824, 1825) Traditions of Edinburgh, 1824 at Wikipedia

Fouque 1811 or 1818 or 1898 [translation unknown]

excerpt

All "(excerpt)" --is the disambiguation appropriate when a new story title is coined?

What of stories in a frame story, or with nonfiction preface?

• Arabian Nights; especially Sindbad voyages
• A Wonder Book T2263374
• Thomas Crofton Croker, series Fairy Legends and Traditions of the South of Ireland, as (two) COLLECTION of SHORTFICTION such as "The Banshee of the Mac Carthys" T2326237 and one NONFICTION

The Eerie Book credits

1981 Castle Books publication record preserves page numbers from TSI

•• title note "The 1981 reprint is not a facsimile, so annotation may differ."

•o title note without that statement

oo no title note

1. _5 •• 5 ^ "Allen"
2. 15 •• 15 [no variant] •••• G. W. M. Reynolds, ex [ ] London: George Vickers, 1847 ••••
3. 31 •• 31 Hans Andersen •••• Hans Christian Andersen [under Andersen] 1848 ••••
4. 43 •• 41 HUNT = OK •••• ex ••••
5. 51 oo 49 CROWE = OK ---- no title note
6. 63 •• 61 "Allen"
7. 73 •• 71 UNCREDITED (no annotation) •••• Anon., ss ••••
8. 79 oo 77 Frankenstein (abridged) •••• Mary W. Shelley, ex •••• ^^ Mary Wollstonecraft Shelley's novel or Mrs Shelley's novel [not the current variant] --77-107 (31pp ~12000) p77 -- (Abridged from Mrs Shelley's Novel of that name.) ;; Contents: (Abridged from Mary Wollstonecraft Shelley's Novel.)
9. 115oo 113 CROWE = OK ---- no title note
10. 123•o 121 UNCREDITED (From the Danish.) = OK (title note questions "excerpt" and page span ✓) •••• Anon., ex ••••
11. 131•• 127 SAVILE (not "The Rev. ...") •••• ex ••••
12. 135•o 135 CROWE = OK (title note mistaken source ✓) •••• [under Crowe] follows Armour as (ss) Ghosts and Family Legends; but that collection as T.C. Newby 1858 ••••
13. 141•• 143 CHAMBERS = OK •••• ex [under Chambers] 1824 "also as 'Infernal Major Weir'."(where?) ••••
14. 153•• 153 SAVILE (not "The Rev. ...") •••• ex ••••
15. 159•• 161 [not the current variant] FOUQUE (not "The Baron ...") •••• F. H. ..., ex ••••
16. 169oo 171 De Quincey •••• Thomas De Quincey, ex •••• --171-211 (41pp ~16000)

"From ..." the work [7]

Reynolds, Crowe (3), Savile (2), Chambers

"Abridged from Mrs. Shelley's ..." [1]

stated "Extract" [3] -- Hunt, Fouque, De Quincey

Extract from ... in Robert Hunt's ... Translated Extract from " Undine ... An Extract from De Quincey's ...

others By Poe (2), From the Danish (2), no annotation (1)

10 writers (16 stories: Poe 2, Crowe 3, Savile 2, uncredited 2)

Poe ✓
Andersen ✓
Shelley ✓
el f Baron Friedrich de La Motte Fouqué ✓ --Undine
el   Caroline de la Motte Fouqué 189480 (6) --second marriage for both
el   George W. M. Reynolds 119452 (29) 
 --novel Faust (1847) --niLC
el   Robert Hunt (1807-1887) 120790 (31) 
 --anth. West of England (1865) https://lccn.loc.gov/32029129 -HDL ; NY 1968 https://lccn.loc.gov/68056495
el   Catherine Crowe 19899 (13) 
 --coll. The Night Side (1848), Ghosts (1859) 
el   Rev. Bourchier Wrey Savile 163291 (7) 
 --nidb https://lccn.loc.gov/33024148 Apparitions (1874) only as excerpt 
el   Robert Chambers 162374 (113)
 --nidb Traditions of Edinburgh LC 1912 67 80
el   Thomas De Quincey 19740 (218) 
 --novel Klosterheim (1832) LC 1855 1982 92 (viewed at HDL)

Contents: 16 story titles, 15 bylines and annotations

Acknowledgments (ACK): for 6 stories, 5 publishers and writers(?)

1898 pages to view: 15 41 121

"A Dream of Death"

Amalie Skram (1846–1905), Professor Hieronimus (1895 danish -HDL) Fo[49](63)

1899 John Lane, TBH "translated from the Danish of Amalie Skram by Alice Stronach and G.B. Jacobi" --extract from Chapter III, p24-30 p27(bot)-29

--not yet published 1898

o[474768251] viii 320 , o[5266825] 320

Amalie Skram [50] --nidb EN (25) https://lccn.loc.gov/n79021916

Hans Andersen (1847, 1848?)

• ACK George Routledge & Sons, Ltd.

Andersen, "The Story of a Mother"

"Faust" A Romance (1847?)

• ACK John Dicks, Esq. --heir to writer?

Reynolds, "The Iron Coffin"

... West of England (1865?)

• ACK Chatto & Windus

Hunt, "Tregeagle"

Apparitions (1874, 1880?)

• 1898 ACK W. A. Savile, Esq. --heir to writer?

Savile, "The Mysterious Horseman", "Marshal Blücher" --1874-- weak "excerpt"

Horseman, Eerie 127ff, orig. 189-97 --omits pars 1st, 2nd "I think it will be best to allow Mr. Jones to relate the incident in his own words ..." p188/89 (I.A.)

Marshal, Eerie 153ff, orig. --omits pars 1st, 2nd, 3rd p221/23 (I.A.)

Traditions of Edinburgh (1825, 1847)

• 1898 ACK W. & R. Chambers, Ltd. --first of three 1847 publishers; and 1869 publisher

--1825 publisher, W. & C. Tait

Chambers, "Major Weir" --1847 evidently-- weak "excerpt"

HDL 1825 vol 1, p1-312 --no Contents list or index

text search (major weir) (0 hits) --presumably belongs in vol 2, sections "Characters, &c."

HDL 1825 vol 2, p1-298, 299/300 "Conclusion", closes 1825-09-20, back pages [i]-vi Corrections and Additions

1825 text search (major weir) (0 hits); (weir) (0)

HDL 1847 New ed.

NYPL t.p. 1847 "A New Edition, much amended." --same as California except half-title, title pages

California (with cover) (Selected Writings of Robert Chambers) t.p. undated "A New Edition, as revised in 1846, with some further corrections." (no introduction), Contents [v]-vi, p[7]-344, Index [345]-48

-- Major Weir 32-38 (final paragraph 37/38 omitted in 1898)

HDL catalog 1868? xvi 391 19cm; New ed. (two with cover, one blue one red), portrait, no back pages

HDL 1869 New ed. (with cover) (no portrait) -xvi, 11-386, Index [387]-91, back p(1)-12 catalogue (brown cover)

Major Weir p37, Major Weir 42-49 (final paragraph 48/49 omitted in 1898)

[v]-xii Introductory Notice (1868) "I am about to do what very few could do without emotion--revise a book which I wrote forty-five years ago. ..."

Frankenstein

ISFDB titles as "(excerpt)" includes the full title as ": or," ", or," ", or" (3) and the short title as (excerpt from "; or,") --as well as the short title as simply "(excerpt)".

Klosterheim

p171 -- (An Extract from De Quincey's Romance of " Klosterheim; or, The Masque.")

(1832 at HDL) p137--p305 FINIS. 169 pp ~32000

1832 ... 1898

137-204 = 171-197 (68pp ==> 27pp) mid-Chapter IX--Ch XVI

omit 205- Ch XVII--XXIII

270-305 = 197-211 (46pp ==> 15pp) Ch XXIV--XXVI [last chapter, 16 pages! of 303]

--evidently pp. 137-204 and 270-305 of the 305-page 1832 edition (viewed at HathiTrust) Chapters 9-16 and 24-26 of 26, beginning mid-Chapter IX

Without representation of original chapter breaks or mid-chapter horizontal lines. With one-paragraph summaries of pp. 3-137 and 205-269 in square brackets.

Klosterheim, or The Masque T787197 Fo[51]()

BOH.£ 1832 --multiple issues including 1st

Lm$i 1982 Woodbridge

LOm. 1992 Woodstock Books

-d$ 2002 Gutenberg #6171 --Unknown source edition ✓

Od$i 2011 Valancourt

HDL (4)

1832 --evidently not the 1st issue

1855 with a biographical preface by Dr. Shelton Mackenzi

xxiv, 258 Boston, Whittemore, Niles, and Hall

282

c1982 HDL--NOVIEW "x, 182 p. : port. ; 22 cm." ISBN-0912800984 Woodbridge

LC

1855 https://lccn.loc.gov/06033974 xxiv 258

1982 https://lccn.loc.gov/82008517 x 182 ISBN-0912800984

1992 Woodstock https://lccn.loc.gov/92037028 305

Boston & New York 1855 https://lccn.loc.gov/06033974 -HDL xxiv 258

HDL Harvard(2) t.p. 1855 (no cover) [3]-24 Biographical Notice; narrative p25-282; p[283-86] Whittemore catalog

--and copy 1 also Harvard, identical except back pages (none)

HDL California t.p. 1855(original cover?) and Michigan, paginated [iii]-xxiv, [1]-258, no back pages

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Nibelungen

ISFDB Series

Die Nibelungen Series 38646

primarily Wagner libretto by Wagner and collection/omnibus translations and adaptations --also the medieval poem in Armour rendering at least

(also Die Nibelungen (Holbein / Dewi) Series 53132 --why distinguish this recent series in particular?)

• As a consequence of the comparison of the Nibelungenlied to the Iliad, the Nibelungenlied came to be seen as the German national epic in the earlier nineteenth century, particularly in the context of the Napoleonic Wars. The Nibelungenlied was supposed to embody German bourgeois virtues that the French were seen as lacking. This interpretation of the epic continued during the Biedermeier period, during which the heroic elements of the poem were mostly ignored in favor of those that could more easily be integrated into a bourgeois understanding of German virtue.[83] The translation of Karl Simrock into modern German in 1827 was especially influential in popularizing the epic and remains influential today.[84][85] Also notable from this period is the three-part dramatic tragedy Die Nibelungen by Friedrich Hebbel.
• Following the founding of the German Empire, recipients began to focus more on the heroic aspects of the poem, with the figure of Siegfried in particular becoming an identifying figure for German nationalism. Especially important for this new understanding of the poem was Richard Wagner's operatic cycle Der Ring des Nibelungen, which, however, was based almost entirely on the Old Norse versions of the Nibelung saga. Wagner's preference for the Old Norse versions followed a popular judgment of the time period: the Nordic versions were seen as being more "original" than the courtly story portrayed in the German poem.[25] In the First World War, the alliance between Germany and Austria-Hungary came to be described as possessing Nibelungen-Treue (Nibelungen loyalty), referring to the loyalty to death between Hagen and the Burgundians. While militaristic, the use of imagery from the Nibelungenlied remained optimistic in this period rather than focusing on the doom at the end of the epic.[86]

1898 transl. Alice Horton

• Lay of the Nibelungs, metrical transl. by [Edward Bell, author Alice Horton BL 011494752] by Alice Horton; Preface by Thomas Carlyle BL 008249788; transl. by E. Bell, M.A. BL 002647398 Bohn's Standard Library lxxi 411

spelling "Niebelungs" by others

• 1897 Fo[52](26) --"ie" clerical error in 1 of 26 records

1921 Fo[53](3) --one edition

Forgotten Books o[54]

Armour 1910/1911 (Wagner)

The Ring of the Niblung

Ring of the Niblung \Rackham [23] D,Page https://lccn.loc.gov/24026088 viii 341 "Previously published in 2 vols." viii 341 o[1003186] --first 1910, presumably

HDL The Ring of the Niblung \Rackham 1910/11 Heinemann v1 only; [39*] Garden City; [76*] Abaris 2vol

1976 Heinemann 2 vols facsimile o[76797205] vi 160 25cm [33] ISBN-0434619817

o[76797204] vi 182 [29] ISBN-0434619809

Rhinegold & Valkyrie \Rackham [39] Garden City https://lccn.loc.gov/40004374 viii 159; 76 Heinemann https://lccn.loc.gov/78412256 o[1070199]

Siegfried & Twilight \Rackham [39?] Garden City https://lccn.loc.gov/40004375 ; 76 Heinemann https://lccn.loc.gov/78412255 o[4959811]

LC SH: Operas--Librettos

LC Series: The ring of the Niblung; a trilogy with a prelude, by Richard Wagner

Project Gutenberg

1910 Heinemann; D, Page Ebook #48214

1911 Ebook #49507

The ebook contains images of book cover and interior illustrations, but no Illustrations list. It does not represent page numbers or divisions and the Contents list contains no numerals.

Armour 1897

The Fall of the Nibelungs T2641583

Fall of the Nibelungs 1897 Dent https://lccn.loc.gov/01005569 -HDL ; [28] Dent Dutton https://lccn.loc.gov/36037686 xviii 235 ""First issue of this edition 1908. Reprinted ... 1928." Everyman's Library (Romance) #312 o[2806162]

Nibelungenlied Fo[55](35) \Legrand 60 https://lccn.loc.gov/2010368737 xxiii 250, LEC 1500 copies #318 May 1960 ; [61] Heritage https://lccn.loc.gov/61004173

The Fall of the Nibelungs ("Niebelungs" as Gutenberg #3636)

Fo[56](37) [57](2)

The Fall of the Nibelungs: Done into English by [MA] ... Illus. and Decor. by [WBM] o[58] o[59]

The Fall of the Nibelungs: A Prose Translation o[60]

The Fall of the Nibelungers Fo[61](3)

• WBM The Fall of the Nibelungs: Fourteen Illustrations o[62]

• The Song of the Nibelungs, Leaves of Gold Press, 2012, 6th ed. o[63] "First pub. as The fall of the Nibelungs: London, J.M. Dent & Co., 1897."

HDL The Fall of the Nibelungs 1897 08 08 28

HDL 1897 (4 with plain covers, UMichigan lacking several front pages)

Prefatory Note (on the source and translation) p(vii)

1908 Dent Everyman's BL 002647399 xviii 235

HDL The Nibelungenlied [49*] Dent xviii 235; [61*] Heritage xxiii 250 --*NOVIEW

1897 newspapers (40 hits)

ann.

listing in the publisher's "New Books", -10-09 Spectator p458, Sat Rvw p401 *suggests* not yet complete "With from 16 to 20 Full-page Drawings, &c. Small fcp. 4to. printed upon rough antique paper, 6s. net." [there are 16 plates not included in the pagination, some double, ie facing on two leaves

same Academy #1329 -10-23 p95 "With 16 20 Full-page Drawings, &c. Small fcap. 4to. printed upon Rough Antique Paper, 6s. net."

Ath #3651 10-16 p531 "Christmas Books" --lead review, follows Simrock (good); "The literary style of the translation is manifestly modelled on the archaistic phraseology adopted by the late William Morris, and has its beauties in combination with several faults."; exceptionally negative on the illustrations, concluding "Happily the illustrations, being outside the text, can be cut out of the book without hurting it."

The Outlook (NY) 1897-10-16 p436 --brief review, positive on the product, "a series of interesting illus. by Mr. W. B. M--."

also p439 "Books Received (for week ending October 1)"

The Dial -11-01 p258 List of New Books (recd since last semi-monthly issue) "uncut, pp. 260" $2.50

The Dial -12-01 334-41? "Holiday Books" ... "William Morris has much to answer for in these holiday books. Mr. W. B. M-- [...] has studied his work too superficially. That kind of illustration is only justified by being done extremely well; and no such excuse can be offered for the pictures in this book." Armour's "plain prose rendering" "is elaborately archaic, her effort to bring it close to the original resulting in much that is artificial and stilted. ...[and is not beautiful either]" positive on product --p338?

--all in sharp contrast to the William Wells Newell ed. of Arthurian legends, "King Arthur and the Table Round" (Houghton) based on Chretien de Troyes. --p339?

Undine (Macmillan) illus Pitman, exceptionally positive on the illus. --p340?

William Morris

William Morris

(advert The Critic 1891-11-28 pIV, above)

• Tale of the House of the Wolfings T4249 Fo[64](123)

(of >10 ISFDB publs)

BO. 1889 Reeves

Hm. 1890 Roberts --NEW

m$c 1978 Newc --PV Rtrace --q

(1980 Borgo nidb)

(no Dover)

d. 2001 Gutenberg #2885 P336370 --from 1904 Longmans; no Contents list! full title:

The House of the Wolfings: A Tale of the House of the Wolfings and All the Kindreds of the Mark Written in Prose and in Verse

NOVEL title? User talk:Rtrace#The House of the Wolfings 2019-11-04

Roberts Brothers, Wolfings

1890 387p -HDL

1890 199p 21cm o[65] o[66] -- "On verso of t.-p. : 1st ed. December, 1888."

1890 387+16 20cm large paper ed, limited ed o[67] o[68] -- "Spine title: House of the Wolfings."

1892 o[69]

HDL 1889 90 90 96 1900 01 06 14 79

1889 Reeves & Turner (UMichigan, 21cm) (plain dark red cloth cover) t.p. 1889 UK t.p. verso "Chiswick Press :--Charles Whittingham and Co. // Tooks Court, Chancery Lane." p[1]-199; back pages catalogue "Publications and Remainders" (p[1]-13, 14-30 "Bowden, Hudson & Co., Printers, Red Lion Street, Holborn, London." back page 9, "Works of William Morris"

1896 Longmans 199 21cm, 2nd ed. "On verso of t.-p.: 1st ed. December, 1888." --1st Longmans ed. --evident reprint after title leaf; t.p. verso "Chiswick Press:--C. Whittingham and Co., Tooks Court, Chancery Lane, London." p[200] as 1889 with logo; no back pages

1901 Longmans 161 30cm "Printed at the Chiswick Press ..." two-column; no t.p., no back pages half-title ! not-t.p. pages 0-1 p(162) closing printer

1979--NOVIEW London: G. Prior "Reprint of the 1909 ed. published by Longmans, Green, London, under the title: A tale of the house of the Wolfings and all the kindreds of the mark." 0860432777 199 23cm

Roberts Brothers copies (2 HDL records) all as 387pp, 20cm

Harvard contains large paper statement, photo portrait

Virginia may also be 1890

two others are later than 1894, probably

Longmans US

1900 NY: Longmans 387 20cm --reprint of 1890 Roberts after t.p. t.p. 1900 (plain cover) (no back pages)

1906 NY: Longmans 387 20cm --matches 1900 except t.p. and back pages adverts (389/90) "Mr. Morris's Works."

1914 NY: Longmans 387 20cm --same (389/92) "Mr. Morris's Works."

LC (5 as identically fashioned title)

Reeves & Turner 1889 large paper https://lccn.loc.gov/75319126 -HDL

1890 https://lccn.loc.gov/07026102 -HDL

1901 Longmans https://lccn.loc.gov/2005587970

1978 Newcastle https://lccn.loc.gov/78105005

1980 Borgo https://lccn.loc.gov/80019670

[70] The Times of India 1889-01-23 p2 (price 3-12)

[71] Ath #3229 1889-09-14 p347-50 --review reprinted in the Roberts ed. (indexed p345 and online as MORRIS'S HOUSE OF THE WOLFINGS)

"Boston Letter" by Alexander Young, The Critic [72] 1890-02-08 p70 (signed -02-03)

[73] 1890-03-15 p132 "are to bring out this week"

Two New Books, The Book Buyer 1890-03-01 p75 "One volume, 8vo, cloth. Edition limited to five hundred copies."

Recent Publications, Am Bk 1890-03-01 p141 "[title.] Written in Prose and in Verse by William Morris, author of ^The Earthly Paradise^." Edition de Luxe. Limited to 500 copies. Bound in antique style. Crown 8vo. Price, $3.00."

The Dial -03-01 p299, under heading "Two Books Which Are Nearly Ready"

• Roots of the Mountains T903700 Fo[74](63)

(of 10 ISFDB publs)

1889 Reeves

(no US)

m$c 1979 Newc --PV Rtrace

(no Borgo)

d 2004 Gutenberg #6050 --from 1896 Longmans (with 1st/2nd dates); with page numbers and closing printer statement

HDL 1890 90 96 96 1906 13 79

LC

1890 Reeves & Turner https://lccn.loc.gov/75314798 -HDL superior ed on Whatman paper, 250 copies

1893 Reeves & Turner https://lccn.loc.gov/04016843

1896 Longmans, 2nd ed. https://lccn.loc.gov/2012657985

1901 Longmans https://lccn.loc.gov/2005587971 limited ed, 315 copies

1979 Newcastle https://lccn.loc.gov/79127008

1980 Borgo https://lccn.loc.gov/80019676 "with new introduction"

2003 Inkling https://lccn.loc.gov/2003114406 -TOC

[75] Ath #3283 1890-09-27 p409-11 --leads this issue ("Literature", lead review)

• Story of the Glittering Plain T4251 Fo[76](30) Fo[77](16)

(of >10 ISFDB publs)

LO.. 1891 Kelmscott

LOHm$ 1891 Roberts (facsimle, Limited 500) --maybe expand HDL commentary

.. 1894 Kelmscott, illus. Crane

BO.. 1913 Longmans pocket edition --NEED page-count confirmation (LCCN 1924) --CHECK NEWSPAPERS

m$ic 1973 Newc --PV Rtrace, Don Erikson --illus Howard Pyle, source unknown

.. 1980 Borgo "Rebinding of the Newcastle edition for the library market."

2001 Gutenberg #2565 --pocket library

Am$i 2001 Wildside --Amazon note done

Ad$i 2012 ReadHowYouWant --Amazon note done

i d$i 2013 Leaves of Gold Press --Amazon note done --NEED coverart evidently by Crane (distinct)

(1987 Dover nidb)

i 2019 Dover (2) --Amazon note done --tp NEED correct page-count, libraries

i = 1894 illus. Walter Crane (noted)

Roberts, Glittering

1891 187p o[78]

1891 Roberts reprinted in facsimile o[79]

other

LC

1891 Roberts https://lccn.loc.gov/07026103 , https://lccn.loc.gov/84125735

--regular and special?

1891 Kelmscott https://lccn.loc.gov/22019574 188p 21cm, limited ed. 200 plus 6

1894 Kelmscott https://lccn.loc.gov/22019573 177p 30cm, limited ed. 250 plus 7 (second copy on vellum)

1898 Longmans (London, New York, and Bombay) https://lccn.loc.gov/04016844 -HDL 172p 19cm

1924 Longmans https://lccn.loc.gov/36013890 vi 161 (pocket ed., November 1913) o[2099866]

1980 Borgo https://lccn.loc.gov/80019460 xvi 173 (c)1973 --reprint 1973 Newcastle #1

1987 Dover https://lccn.loc.gov/87009048 177p

2019 Dover https://lccn.loc.gov/2018056099 177p

HDL 1891 91 91 92 92 94 96 96 98 1905

1892, 1892 Roberts 220 ; 1896 220 20cm

1894 Kelmscott 177 30cm p0/1 opening spread p(178/79) closing spread, no back pages ("limp vellum" binding)

1896, 1898 Longmans 172 19cm

latterday cover illustrations

p84/85 "Chapter XIII. Hallblithe beholdeth the woman who loveth him"

<a href="https://hdl.handle.net/2027/nc01.ark:/13960/t0ms3rp9v?urlappend=%3Bseq=100">1894, p. 84</a> (viewed at HathiTrust)

p170/71 "Chapter XXII. They go from the Isle of Ransom and come to Cleveland by the Sea" --COVERART note submitted

One of 23 woodcut illustrations by Crane published in the 1894 Kelmscott Edition, namely the chapter 22 headpiece "Chapter XXII. They go from the Isle of Ransom and come to Cleveland by the Sea". <a href="https://hdl.handle.net/2027/nc01.ark:/13960/t0ms3rp9v?urlappend=%3Bseq=186">1894, p. 170</a> (viewed at HathiTrust)

Do 22 of 23 woodcuts serve as chapter headpieces? If so then chapter 1 alone contains two illustrations, with a tailpiece too 1894, p. 4

(2019 publication) The front cover illustration is one by Crane originally reproduced as the ch. 22 headpiece, namely "Chapter XXII. They go from the Isle of Ransom and come to Cleveland by the Sea" (see the cover record). Probably it is displayed identically in this book.

1891 Roberts, facsimile of Kelmscott (2, no cover)

1891 500 copies, facsimile [Princeton copy lacks this page]

1891 Roberts 187p (with cover) t.p. 1891 assembled off-by-one, p1-187

1891 Reeves & Turner 172p (no cover) t.p. 1891 Chiswick Press, p1-172

[80] N-Y Tribune 1891-09-11 p8 "Literary Notes" --UK publication, also a cheaper edition on inferior paper

MacManus

2019-11-01 this section features Seumas MacManus and --loosely related, all re 1899--1901 activity--

• (little) publishers Doubleday & McClure and McClure, Phillips
• illus. Gustave Verbeek
  • illus. Frank Ver Beck
  • poet Guy Wetmore Carryl
• illus. Blanche MacManus

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Blanche McManus

OMNI 2015 Pook Press ISBN-1473322200

publisher, 22 "illustrations in three colors" Book Buyer 1899-12-01 p522 "Each volme, $1.50. The set in a box (2 vols. 4to), $3.00." [one month earlier ann. as "some [24] illustrations in color ..."

also The Dial -12-01 and [81] NYT -12-09

review, same issue p394ff(398?) "two mighty octavos", each "twelve pictures in color"

"List of New Books" (Holiday and Juvenile only) The Dial -12-01 438ff(440) "Each with 12 illustrations in colors" $1.50 (hyphen) [82]

Looking-Glass Fo#231-40

1899, 11-139, 26cm, 12 full-page illus. o[3442680]

(c)1899, 2nd half of OMNI, 10 full-page illus. o[83]

[1899](c)1899, 139pp, 10 plates as Baldwin library, 12 full-page illus.

Baldwin LHCL t.p. no date with cover, "12 full-page illus.", no list ; MISSING some illus. (only front +7 ?) (small red drawing endpapers)

cover, endpapers, frontis., t.p., 36a 54a 62a 74a 88a 100a 116a 134a

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Verbeek

The Magical Monarch of Mo = novel A New Wonderland T197749 (short stories at Wikipedia) --illus. Frank Ver Beck

1. ABE as 1903 Bobbs 1st printing, with cover and interior images inclg t.p. ("Pictures by Frank Verbeck", no date)
2. ABE as 4th printing "Endpapers illustrations by Fanny Y. Cory."
3. ABE as later printing
4. ABE as 1905 Donahue 2nd ed. with jacket image (design identical to 1903 Bobbs cover)
5. 1947 Bobbs \Evelyn Copelman ABE as MMM ; ABE as Surprising Adventures $2.00

OL 5611708M [84] HDL 1968 Dover https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/102109771

Gutenberg #16259 as "Suprising" and "Ver Beck"

• ch 9 "The Wizard and the Princess" at Gutenberg (color images)
• end ch 2 "The Strange Adventures of the King's Head" (ie The Purple Dragon) --woodcut from 1900? (up one page) --ask Rtrace

apparently signed "FRANK VERBECK"(1), "Frank Ver BecK"(2), scripty "Frank Ver Beck"(3), "VerBecK"(5), unsigned?(6, 9-14), scripty "Ver Beck"(7 8), and so on

ABEbooks frontispiece [none at Gutenberg]

"You see", remarked the King, "the Fox has proved his innocence."

LC ! only 2

[1947] Bobbs https://lccn.loc.gov/47031282

[1968] Dover https://lccn.loc.gov/68019550 as "Ver Beck"

el   .Frank Ver Beck 130668 --with mistaken credit for Donegal Fairy Stories 
el f .G. Verbeek 185229

FMI

Ver Beck, Frank http://www.philsp.com/homeville/fmi/s/s8309.htm#A214420

Verbeck, William http://www.philsp.com/homeville/fmi/s/s8310.htm#A214433

(art) Ver Beck and Verbeek http://www.philsp.com/homeville/fmi/c/c536.htm#A20759

13 FMI "Illustration" records as by Gustave Verbeek

Goode 1896

Hill 1898

MacManus 1900-01 Cosmopolitan "Pathrick's Proxy" pp. 343-48 w 3 illus, one full-page (Signed [GUSTAVE] VERBEEK) (one credited Gustave Verbeek)

Osbourne 1900-09

London 1900-09 (repr. 1901-10)

White 1901-05

Jenks 1901-06

Kinnosuké 1901-09

Earle 1902-12 (repr. 1903-10)

Horton 1903-10

Sharp 1904-10

Gustave Verbeek (real name Verbeck) credited as Frank Ver Beck

1968 Dover https://lccn.loc.gov/68028406 xii 256 --repub 1900 McClure, Phillips ISBN-0486219712 o[1821] o[85] both as "Frank Verbeck" Amazon as 2012

[1976] o[86] o[87] xv 256 ; xvi 256

(c)2003 Swordpoint https://lccn.loc.gov/2006543220 xi 148 o[88] ISBN-095445300X both as "Frank Verbeck" --with list of Contents inclg "Hookedy" and "Bum-Clock"

o[89] as originally D,Page; "This new ed. retains all the character and fun of the original stories, without the archaic spelling and sentence structure, and is set in a modern typeface that is much more readable"

Amazon ebook

Amazon UK as tp 2013-03-18 (but (c)2003)

Amazon US as tp 2003-02-28, Buy New $9.99

Contents list shows [a] no page numbers; [b] two variant titles "Hookedly" and "Cockroach"

Fo[90]

https://lccn.loc.gov/12014048

The Upside-Downs of Little Lady Lovekins and Old Man Muffaroo (1903-1904; graph coll under same title 1905) by Gustave Verbeek (1867-1937) can lay some claim to being the world's first fantasy comic strip: its two protagonists adventured in a world of bizarre creatures and strange landscapes. (Verbeek here also innovated the idea of creating a strip that could also be read upside-down – rotating the page gave the conclusion of the same six-panel story, each title character becoming the other when inverted – but no other artist has yet had the courage to pick up this particular gauntlet.) Verbeek followed this with the rather more nightmarish Terrors of the Tiny Tads (1905-1916), which appeared along with another new strip, Winsor McCay's Little Nemo in Slumberland (1905-1927).

--Encyc "Comics" by [DR/SH/RT]

newspapers, etc ("gustave verbeek") 1899--1900 (45: 1 44) newspapers, etc ("gustave verbeek") 1896--1903 (105: 30 12 0 1; 44 8 9 1) --of which 75 without "Carryl"

1899 [91] NYT -02-05 p15 human interest the Verbeek brothers

book publisher credit as Gustave Verbeek in 1900 newspapers

Donegal Fairy Stories NYT -10-06 and -11-10 -12-01 -12-08 -12-22 "With forty illustrations by Gustave Verbeek." (later as $1.25)

Mother Goose for Grown-Ups NYT -10-20 pBR4, Newell and Verbeek, Harper & Bros [92] --also Rafnaland, beyond the North Pole

newspaper/magazine credit as Gustave Verbeek

[93] LHJ 1900-Apr p3-4 (heading credit)

Cosmopolitan 1900-Sep p481-94 (caption credit p485)

Cosmopolitan 1901-Jun p174-76 (" " p175)

McClure's 1901-Dec p124ff (Contents credit p2)

reported credits

1896 (30), probably all as illus. The Sprightly Adventures of Marsac (Scribner's) [94] earliest publisher Scribner's advert 1896-09-12

1897 incl listing as illustrator for Harper's Monthly, September

1900 incl Everybody's Magazine, Christmas Number

1900 review Carryl [95]

1900 Carryl received listing NYT-11-03 BR10 $1.50

1901 Nash Amer listing as Harper's illustrator July, August

1901 Nigger Baby and Nine Beasts, publisher Ess Ess advert 1901-09-01

1902 review Rataplan, WP 1902-06-30 p7

1902 Rataplan, publisher Henry Altemus advert

✓ 2019-10-31 thru 1902-06

Bangs, Over the Plum-Pudding, 1901 collection T1008622 --now as illus. by "G. Verbeek" only, from signature "G VERBEEK".

1901 Harper, 12 stories, 17 illus.

3 copies with original cover (U California best); interiors evidently identical p[iii](t.p.)-[245]

Cornell U copy contains back pages adverts only 3 pages rather than 6 pages, p[247-53]; and a different photo portrait

Ack permission to republish from Harper's Round Table, Harper's Weekly, The Delineator, Life, Brooklyn Life, (NY) Mail and Express.

[1969] Books for Libraries Press [1969] --reprint, NOVIEW

Facing pages

#1-2, 4, 11-12 unillustrated

3) 48 ?oughton

5) 88 [Spooks, low quality]

94

98

100 "G. VERBEEK"

6) 108

126

7) 148 signed 93 FI?

150 ---- FI?

8) 162 ---- FI?

166 ---- FI?

170 ---- FI?

9) 188 signed

10) 200 ---- FI?

202 enninger? 94

204 FI? (probably F. is enninger)

FictionMags lists only "A Glance Ahead" (of 12) and that as published here.

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Carryl

Guy Wetmore Carryl, humorist poet; parody collections 22630 (12)

• Fables for the Frivolous (with Apologies to La Fontaine) (1898), illustrated by Peter Newell – based on fables by Jean de La Fontaine; https://lccn.loc.gov/98000847

HDL 1898 99 99 00 04 1898, multiple

none with cover t.p. 1898, color; 6 illus.

• Mother Goose for Grown-Ups (1900), illus. Newell and Gustave Verbeek https://lccn.loc.gov/00005919

HDL 1900 (2 copies) one from Harvard U with original cover t.p. 1900 (U California shows t.p. 1900 color); 5 illus. (front +4) ; 5 illus.

front. Newell

10 GUSTAVE VERBEEK facing p10

40 Newell

78 Newell

114 unsigned Verbeek?

• Grimm Tales Made Gay (1902), illus. Albert Levering https://lccn.loc.gov/02025182

HDL 1902 70 t.p. no date(October 1902) with cover ; small line drawings thruout

Seumas MacManus

MacManus stories and other articles in 1900 US newspapers and magazines --only as found by ProQuest search.

1899-07-16 to -09-24, 10 of 15 collected in In Chimney Corners

1. Billy Beg and the Bull (1899) ------ 1899-07-16 "The Adventure of Billy Beg"
2. Murroghoo ------ 09-10
3. The Queen ------ 08-13
4. The Widow's Daughter (1899)
5. Shan Ban
6. When Neil ------ 07-30
7. The Black Bull ------ 09-04
8. The Old Hag of the Forest (1899) ------ 09-17
9. Rory
10. Myles
11. Nanny
12. The Apprentice Thief (1899) ------ 07-23
13. Manis ------ 09-24
14. Jack and the King Who Was a Gentleman (1899) ------ 08-06
15. The Giant ------ 08-27

other Sunday newspaper publ dates

08-20 John Conn and Hugh Flynn

10-01 Death and Dan Maloney

other news/mag publ dates

99-Aug McClure's : St. Patrick, The Sarpints, and the Sinner

99-08-05 The Outlook : The Priest's Boy

"Apologia" --no story title Notes; few length

1. The Bewitched Fiddle (1900)
2. f The Wisdom of Dark Pathrick (1900) -- FMI: 1899-11 Century
3. When Myles Maguire Melted (1900)
4. f Pathrick's Proxy (1900) -- FMI: 1900-01 Cosmopolitan ; 1900-03 Pearson's
5. Corney Clery's Balance (1900) ------ 99-May Frank Leslie's
6. The Staff of the 'Universe' (1900)
7. The Cadger-Boy's Last Journey (1900) ------ 99-09-02 The Outlook
8. f The Three Master Tradesmen (1900) -- FMI: 1900-02 Outlook
9. Condy Sheeran's Courtin' (1900)
10. f Billy Lappin's Search for a Fortune (1900) -- FMI: 1900-02 Century

2019-10-28 --no story title Notes; few length

"Our Tales"

1. The Plaisham (1900) ------ 1900-07-15
2. The Amadan of the Dough (1900) ------ 1900-09-16
3. f Conal and Donal and Taig (1900) ------ 1900-07-29 -- FMI: 1901-06 Pearson's
4. Manis the Miller (1900) ------ 1900-08-19
5. Hookedy-Crookedy (1900) ------ 1900-08-26 --WPost with "Verbeek" illustrations including "Leaped the Walls, Which Were Nine Miles High" p.27
6. Donal That Was Rich and Jack That Was Poor (1900) ------ 1900-09-09
7. The Snow, the Crow, and the Blood (1900) ------ 1900-09-02
8. The Adventures of Ciad, Son of the King of Norway (1900) ------ 1900-08-12
9. The Bee, the Harp, the Mouse, and the Bum-Clock (1900) ------ 1900-07-22
10. The Old Hag's Long Leather Bag (1900) ------ 1900-08-05

MacManus in McClure's Magazine volume Index (U Michigan copies)

v12 --NO INDEX, to page 576, then adverts

v13 --"St. Patrick ..." p304, ("Mac"), illus. Gustave Verbeek p304 ("Sent Pathrick" in text)

v14 --NO INDEX/t.p.

v15 --dnf

v16 --dnf

CHECK other copies

v12 Minnesota --dnf

v14 Harvard --NO INDEX/t.p. at front

newspaper adverts

Chimney --nidb

Sat Rvw -03-10 p306 Harper 6s

Bewitched T[96]

NYT -03-24 p182 "Books Received" 75c; review -04-07 p231

Donegal T[97]

NYT -09-15 p10 "Books and Authors" notes Gaelic-language preface, book evidently in hand ; -11-10 p770 "Published This Week" M,P (below) ; -11-17 BR18ff "Books Received"

price $1 The Dial -10-01 p237 "The Season's Books for the Young" (Fall Books, contd)

[98] NYT 1900-12-01 pBR1 "Topics of the Week" --notice of novel forthcoming 1901, with account of MacManus stories in America

HDL

• The well o' the world's end, and other folk tales 1939 49 --NOVIEW Kirkus(1939-08-08)
• Chimney 99 04 14 17 19

006810661 1899 D,McClure \Pamela Colman Smith t.p. 1899 D,M xii 281

009158281 1904 M,Phillips \Smith " " [8] leaves of plates (c1899)

009939020 1914 D,Page " " (c1908)

011158249 1917 D,Page " " (c1908)

006933828 1919 D,Page " "

• Bewitched 00

008666398 1900 D,McClure ix 240 HDL(2 with cover) "Apologia" vii-viii, Contents ix, 3-240 (w title leaves)

• Donegal 00 00 15 18 19 20 30(NOVIEW) 39 68(NOVIEW)

"1900" M,P 3rd printing 1901-10 t.p. 1900 M, Phillips (w cover), 1st printing stated 1900-09 ; evidently half title and 4 full-page illus. each story (10pp lost from nominal length of each story); narrative 3-256

"Our Tales" closing "Seumas MacManus." and "Donegal, Old Lammas Day, 1900." (or Lughnasadh, or 1 August in the north; honouring Lugh) (Lughnasaid)

numbers of pages: 28 30 16 20 40 16 24 36 20 26

" " text pages(?): 18 20 6 10 30 6 14 26 10 16 = 156 text pages

• [4]
• [4]
• 63 71 [2] Conal and Donal and Taig from p59: title leaf 59/60, illus pp 63 71 [only two]
• 81 87 91 [3]
• 109 131 [2] Hookedy
• 139 143 147 [3] Donal
• 155 161 165 169 [4] Snow
• 179 187 195 199 207 [5] Ciad
• 215 225 [2] Bee
• 235 239 247 253 [4] Old Hag

33 illustrations?

4 4 2 3 2 ; 3 4 5 2 4 --count from collection at HDL

--count from Washington Post at ProQuest

"The Plaisham" nominally 1-28 spans 9 leaves text, title leaf p[1-2], and four full-page illustrations included in the pagination

• p11, While Shamus was crying there, up to him comes a Wee Red Man. (1 of 2 in WP)
• 15, There eyes were opened to see the magnificent castle that was standing finished. (1 of 2 in WP)
• 19, He found the ring hanging from one of the branches of the sciog bush.
• 23, Everyone that got hold of it stuck to it.

"The Amadan of the Dough" 31-[57]

• p35 41 (first two only in WP p27) 51 55, again four illustrations (all 4 in Atlanta Constitution pB1)
• 51, "The Cat came out and asked the Amadan who he was and how he had the impudence to come there to meet her." (1968 cover illustration) p.51

100325225 1900 M,Phillips xii 255 genuine 1st ed., 3rd printing (t.p. MCM) with cover

100546496 1915 D,Page 256 (c1900 D,Page) with cover

100108203 "c1900" Doubleday is 1916 D,Page with cover

100143304 1918 D,Page " " (c1900)

012457266 1919 D,Page " " (c1900)

009181232 1920 D,Page " " (c1900)

100620239 1930 D,Doran " "

007033267 1939 D,Doran xv 256 (c1900)

001032072 [1968] Dover xii 256 "unabridged and unaltered republication of the work originally published by McClure, Phillips in 1900" --HDL credits Frank Ver Beck

"1900" D,Page t.p. 1916 D, Page

[99] NYT -10-06 forthcoming $1.00 (earliest McClure, Phillips panel?)

--nidb with Yankee Enchantments Loomis\Cory $1.25 "Fantastic Stories ..." fc -10-18

https://lccn.loc.gov/01029077 t.p. 1900 M, Phillips with cover

NYT -11-10 "Published This Week" $1.00 -- "McClure, Phillips & Co., Publishers, // 141-155 East 25 Street, New York."

but -12-01 and -12-18, Donegal and Yankee both $1.25

[100] Current Lit 1900-12 p19 -- M,P panel advert

("seumas macmanus") 1900 only (141 hits: 20 19 19 10 11 18; 10 10 11 3 3 7) --including peak coverage of new collections Jan, Jun, Dec

Pathrick's Proxy -- 00-Jan Cosmopolitan

[101] Nash Amer 1900-01-27 p6 ann. series of "six specially prepared articles from the pen of Seumas MacManus" -02-04 to -03-10 (nonfiction)

-- Feb 04 11 18 25 Mar 04 11

Nancy Hannigan's -01-28 BG 42

Billy Lappin's -- 00-Feb Century

Nancy Hannigan's -02-04 (-02-03 PhiInq advert)

-02-04 Nash Amer [one week delayed], LA Times (later weeks) AC, BG, SFChron (some "off by one" week)

When Myles -03-11 BG 42 (-03-16/17 PhiInq advert)

A Celtic Beauty -- 00-Apr Lippincott's 586-94?

[At Home/Life] in the Irish Mountains -04-29 AC a3, BG 37 ; Home Life in the Hills of Donegal DFP C1

Boy Life in the Irish Mountains -05-06 DFP C2 ; two variant titles AC, BG

The Home ... -05-13 AC a3

Little Village in the Mountains -05-20 AC a6, DFP c6

The "Masther" and the Mountain School -05-27 AC pA3

Lippincott's June p3 "The New Lippincott" lists MacManus among "the names to appear in forthcoming numbers"

School Teacher? -06-03 BG 40

Good Father in Donegal -06-03 DFP C3 ; Man of God in the Hills BG 17

The Doctor of Donegal -06-10 DFP C6

The Editor of Donegal(?) -06-17 AC, DFP, PhiInq 37

'The Parvarted Bachelor' -06-24 BG 38

Cleverness of Dan -07-01 SFC 29

-07-08 dnf

D1 The Plaisham -07-15 WP 27 ---- to -09-16 all 10 collected in Donegal Fairy Stories

The Plaisham [viewed in The Washington Post, one of all 10, with 2 illus.]

D9 The Bee 07-22 WP 27

The Bee, The Harp, The Mouse : and the Bum-Clock [WP 2]

(two nonfiction?) -07-22 BG 16, 35

D3 Conal and Donal and Taig -07-29 WP 27

Conal and Donal and Taig [WP 2]

Stephen Chane's Prophecy --August

D0 The Old Hag's -08-05 AC b1, WP 27 (AC as long title)

The Old Hag's Long Leather Bag : An Irish Fairy Tale [WP 3] The Old Hag's Long Leather Bag : And the Way the Widow's Three Daughters Were Tested [AC, 3 illus.]

D8 Adventures of Ciad -08-12 AC c1, WP 27, PhiInq

The Adventures of Ciad, Son of the King of Norway : A Traditional Folk-Tale from the Ancient Gaelic [WP 3] The Adventures of Ciad, Son of the King of Norway [AC, 1 illus.]

D4 Manas, the Miller -08-19 WP 27

Manas, the Miller [WP 2]

D5 Hookedy-Crookedy -08-26 WP 27

Hookedy-Crookedy : An Irish Fairy Tale by SM [WP 3]

D7 The Snow -09-02 AC c1, WP 27, PhiInq

The Snow, the Crow, and the Blood [WP, 2] The Snow, the Crow and the Blood [AC, 2 illus.]

D6 Donal That Was Rich -09-09 WP 27

Donal That Was Rich and . . . Jack That Was Poor [WP 2]

D2 The Amadan -09-16 AC b1, WP 27

" " [WP 2] The Amadan of the Dough [AC, 4 illus.]

D5 Hookedy-Crookedy -09-23 PhiInq p3 illus signature(?) "he put the mare on the walls, which are nine miles high"

no short stories subsequently published in newspapers?

2016

2016-04-07/08 search archives

fairy folkl folkt 'folk '

adapt retell (pass over "adapt" in the sense of graphic novels)

myth legend

13. 2015

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12. 2014

Rules and standards discussions/Archive/Archive12#Clarifying the ISFDB definition of COLLECTION

Rules and standards discussions/Archive/Archive12#Rules of Acquisition: Myths and Legends

Tarzan --and more recent

"presented as fiction"

11. 2013 (from Oct 2012)

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Rules and standards discussions/Archive/Archive11#Title Page for stories/essays

10. 2012 (Apr to Sep)

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9. 2011 (to Mar 2012)

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Rules and standards discussions/Archive/Archive09#Changing Help for non-English translations

Rules and standards discussions/Archive/Archive09#Policy Change: Should we make translated titles into variant titles?

Rules and standards discussions/Archive/Archive09#Note to Moderator

maybe comes to some conclusion but no action taken; still "Note to Moderator"

8. 2010 (from August 2009)

Rules and standards discussions/Archive/Archive08#Fairy Tales and Ghost Stories

followed by: Rules and standards discussions/Archive/Archive08#Adaptations and Retellings

and then: Rules and standards discussions/Archive/Archive08#LCCNs in pub notes

Series:Crossroads Adventure RPG

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7. 2009 (Jul to Aug)

one instance "Oh, I left the other Hillerman book undelelted, although i haven't read it, because it appeared to be a retelling of an authentic folktale. -DES Talk 02:28, 16 August 2009 (UTC)"

6 2009 (from Nov 2008)

Rules and standards discussions/Archive/Archive06#Musicals -- partly about co-author credit for originators of this and that (not only musicals)

5 2008 (to Oct)

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? Rules and standards discussions/Archive/Archive05#Merging Audio Dramatizations with Stories?

4 Talk Page (May 2006 - April 2008)

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3 Aug 2007 to Jan 2008

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2 2007 (Mar to Jun)

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1 2006 Apr to Jan 2007

Rules and standards discussions/Archive/Archive01#Proposed Scope of the Project

Speculative fiction is defined to exclude:

techno-thrillers, political thrillers and satires set in a future indistinguishable from the present (?)

fairy tales with no known author (?)

animal books for very young children (?)

--Ahasuerus 14:42, 4 May 2006 (CDT)

Comment 2016: no change in wording; resolution of the third question mark

2017

Does it matter whether the name of the work differs only in subitle

Undine: A Northern Romance

Undine

or punctuation that may represent equally be represented as a subtitle

Undine, a Northern Romance --compare with above

or use of ampersand and dash

Sintram and His Companions

Sintram & His Companions

--all that in contrast to a difference in the main title

Sintram and His Companions

Sintram

For shortfiction do we have a consensus that both fiction title records and chapbook title records should fully represent the different translations, differently fashioned names of the work, and differently fashioned names of the writer? --so that with 2 translations, 2 variant names of the work, and 2 variant names of the writer, we have potentially 8 shortfiction title records and 8 chapbook title records?

Or is some economy appropriate? A single chapbook title record that covers the same original story in multiple translations, or multiple names of the work (differences that show up only in publication titles and perhaps shortfiction titles), or multiple names of the writer.

Cover image file URL

Should Image URL with "LZZ" filenames be replaced, when the image appears to be identical? 2017-05-08 i replaced 0142501689.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg at the 2003 Puffin ed. of William Shakespeare's A Midsummer Night's Dream (whose "a" I also capitalized).

page numbers +[40]

supported by notes

2017-05

import from /later, mainly related to Shakespeare, Grimm, etc ; also chapbooks series, etc

Friedrich de la Motte-Fouqué

Friedrich De La Motte Fouque

Baron Friedrich de La Motte Fouqué (canonical)

likely to be phoney

Fouqué's Works #3, 1844 (really 1844?) Fouqué's Works #2, 1845

Baron Friedrich de La Motte Fouqué may not be in use by publishers --or worst of all, in use by some current e-publishers who use it as the ISFDB canonical name

"Baron" or "Freiherr" appears in about one-third of the 15 child-variant names but some of those may be spurious.

User talk:MartyD#Diacritics as well as caps

There are multiple issues here.

1. The manual implies that it's possible to book a work or a publication as by Author name spelled with diacritics, also as by otherwise-identical Author name spelled without diacritics. And in some respects including diacritics it instructs meticulous entry of that version which matches the title page --at least, for a book (something similar for book/magazine contents), when title page/image is available and title page does show some explicit byline.
2. Insofar as characters are supported but not distinguished, and we want to distinguish them, it's possible to disambiguate them manually, as we distinguish identical character strings when they refer to different entities (cf. "Richard Kennedy (I)", "Alice's Adventures in Wonderland [2]"). For instance "Willy Pogany" and "Willy Pogany [á]", or "Willy Pogány" and "Willy Pogány [a]".
3. Your inchoate proposal, Vasha, evidently concerns which of multiple database names for a person should be the unique parent and which should be children. And you seem to have in mind that the criterion should be correctness in some sense, rather than its use by publishers. So you may be happy with "Mary Louisa Molesworth" as canonical name, "Mrs. Molesworth" as its variant. Or might prefer making canonical that version a living writer prefers, or that which a past writer preferred at a crucial time in life (compare the person's last legal name as Legal Name).

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"Wizarding World" some current corporate entity or active partnership

I suppose I would create meta-series, not named Universe, in order to group material such as 1969 novel Bored of the Rings T22750 and 21c series Barry Trotter with the relevant works by JRRTolkien and friends, and by JKRowling and friends

Same as for 1980s/90s stories in the Peter Pan series (not up in Neverland Universe) and perhaps 100 latterday stories in the Oz series (not up in Oz Universe) --where even the last numbered novel

series Baron Munchausen

1971 Doris Orgel

T2157223 also belongs in Series Munchausen

2010 p.b. at Kirkus

Grimm Tales for Young and Old T1585351 as by Pullman, JG, WG

The Complete Grimm's Fairy Tales T2037727 at Amazon

Carol Ann Duffy 22907 https://lccn.loc.gov/n86014747

1996 Grimm Tales (play)

1997 More Grimm Tales (play) https://lccn.loc.gov/2003447999 xiii+113

1999 Rumpelstiltskin and Other Grimm Tales (16) p1-190

Hans Christian Andersen "Snedronningen" [102]

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P.S. There is a database series Coville's Shakespeare, known as Shakespeare Retellings on the writer's official website [103]. Evidently Coville and his illustrators have done 7 of the bard's plays, including all 5 that we recognize. Amazon provides some Look Inside that shows the books to be heavily-illustrated, probably novelette-length stories. We have only 3 of them, as NOVELs.