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{{T|303654|From a Buick 8}} I just added detailed notes... [[User:Ofearna|Susan O'Fearna]] 03:39, 30 June 2020 (EDT)
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This editor, while still participating, is an infrequent contributor and may take awhile to respond to messages left here.

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Hello, Auric, and welcome to the ISFDB Wiki! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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Liminary note

Don't worry, I'm going to put most of your submissions on hold as there are some points that need to be adressed. When making your first additions to the db, it's perhaps best to proceed slowly. Hauck 15:05, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

Alfred Hitchcock's Monster Museum

Hello, I've put your submission on hold. You're giving an artist but don't indicate where your data comes from. If it's from a secondary source, please state it in the notes, if you own the book, it's best to indicate this by becoming a "primary verifier" (via the "Verify This Pub" link on the left of the screen). Thanks. Hauck 14:59, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

The Coming of the Demons

In this case, you're trying to change the publishing date. Please state your sources (see above), note also that, when changing data, our etiquette requires that your clear the matter first with the primary verifiers (here Dstandsh and Chavey) as they may be interested by new data for a book they own. Hauck 15:02, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

The Amazon page says February. [1]--Auric 15:17, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

Dragon's Star: Book One

This one seems to me a comic book (or a graphic novel), a kind of work that is outside the scope of the ISFDB (see point 2 of the definitions).Hauck 15:10, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

Sorry about that.--Auric 15:18, 7 February 2016 (UTC)


Same as above, please notify the PVs, if the signature is readable, please indicate the artist.Hauck 15:13, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

The signature is illegible. Red block letters on a dark background, printed small.--Auric 15:22, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

The House of Cthulhu: Tales of the Primal Land Vol. 1

I've approved this one. If you own the book (as seems likely) think of becoming PV of it. Hauck 15:14, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

Split Infinity

The fact that your copy (I suppose that you own one) is defective is not intrinsicaly worth of a mention except if all the copies share this problem. Please check with the PV. Hauck 15:17, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

No such problem on PV1's copy, I've rejected the submission. Hauck 11:10, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Looking Backward, 2000-1887

Is your copy explicitely dated 1888 like this one? As a later printing, if the publication date is unknown, you should enter "0000-00-00". Hauck 15:21, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

I will, when it is published. There appears to be no way to edit a submission.--Auric 15:37, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
When cloning, the date field is adjustable. I've done this for you, result is here. Hauck 15:40, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

The Call of Cthulhu and Other Weird Stories

Your copy seems to be just slightly different from this one. As it's not primary verified (no one among us owns it) and as the price is quite unusual, perhaps that's the same as yours with a "wrong" price. If it's the case, PV it and modify it at leisure. Hauck 15:26, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

I've changed the price, this publication is yours. Hauck 16:36, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
Now the only difference is that the page numbers are different. My copy has 420. 358388 has 448.--Auric 19:52, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
More frequently wrong than the price at amazon is the number of pages (usually a multiple of 16). Hauck 19:56, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

Server Shutdown.

Just note that, as everyday, the ISFDB will be offline for a few minutes in about three minutes (it's 16:30 for me in France). Hauck 15:28, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

Operation Chaos

Here also, please notify the PVs. Hauck 15:38, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

Working on it. I had no idea this was so complicated.--Auric 15:39, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
Yes, it's usually the most time-consuming part of the process. Just drop them a line along the lines of "I've just uploaded a cover for your verified pub". Hauck 15:41, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

Requiem for a Ruler of Worlds

I can see no changes, sorry just saw the "K". Hauck 16:07, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

Daughters of Darkness

Perhaps is your book this one. Personally I prefer to modify records that have no primary verifiers (they're imported from amazon) than to create new ones. Hauck 16:12, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

My copy lacks the "Become part of the Night World" blazon. The price is also different.--Auric 16:15, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
The cover that amazon "attributes" to a given book is sometimes (frequently?) not the correct one. Has your copy a number line? If if it's the true first edition, then the existing one is a previous printing with a lower price , which is quite suspect. You can safely follow the rule : same date, same printing, same ISBN, just slight difference of data from amazon for a non verified book = it's the same as yours. Hauck 16:20, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
I've uploaded a scan here for clarity. I will be offline for a while and will reply when I get back.--Auric 16:26, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
I've tweaked the existing publication a bit to conform to your copy, result is here, you can verify it. Hauck 16:32, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
Thanks--Auric 19:47, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

The Taint and Other Novellas

I've approved your submission, I've just disambiguated the Introduction by adding the title of the book (if not there will be lots of Introduction for every author (here)). Note that, as you PVed the book, the line "Data from Locus1" can be deleted. Hauck 16:16, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

Request submitted. Also, is there any way to remove the Interior art credit? There isn't any.--Auric 16:21, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
Yes, use the "Remove Titles From This Pub" link then choose what to delete (here the first line under REGULAR TITLES : The Taint and Other Novellas, INTERIORART, Bob Eggleton). Hauck 16:26, 7 February 2016 (UTC)

13 Ghostly Tales

Hello. For interior artwork, the title generally used is the title of the book (except when the artwork is specifically titled). In this case (again except if the artwork is titled Art: 13 Ghostly Tales), the INTERIORART record should be simply titled 13 Ghostly Tales. This is for the "first" piece of art. If there are others by the same artist (and if you want to add all of them, it's not mandatory) they should be titled 13 Ghostly Tales [N] where N>=2 (for example, in this magazine the Simak serial has three illustrations). Another question, what does "TX 875" means? I also see that you're giving the Dewey classification of some titles, are you sure that's worth the trouble (IIRC all SF may fall into the same category by country)? Hauck 07:39, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for clearing this up. "TX 875" is the publisher catalog ID. I can't figure out how to enter it to show as a catalog ID. As for Dewey, not all works have them, so I thought it might be important. I'll take them out.--Auric 12:21, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
Sub approved, for the Dewey, it was just a remark. As the creator of the record, you're the master here ;-). Hauck 12:25, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

The Sacred Seal

I've put this submission on hold as you set the "Nongenre" flag to "Yes". In this case the book is not inside the scope of the ISFDB and should not be entered (there are some not speculative fiction titles that are entered mainly for well-known SF authors). From what I've seen on amazon, this book is in fact genre. Do you concur? Hauck 07:45, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

The problem is that the first two seem to belong to the fantasy genre. The third veers abruptly into speculative fiction, making this a muddle. I'm okay with this being marked as genre, though.--Auric 12:00, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
OK, I've approved the sub and changed the flag. Hauck 12:22, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

The Alien

I've approved your submission, but please notify the other PVs (note that in this case, the information added is not very useful, 1951 being just the date of the first publication). Hauck 07:49, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

The Annotated H. P. Lovecraft

Perhaps were you wanting to enter this review? If so, it's already done. Note that reviews of a given book are entered at the reviewing publication level F&SF in this case and that they appear at the reviewed title level here at the bottom of the screen.

Sorry about that. I forgot I set reviews not to display. Thanks for catching my mistake.--Auric 12:02, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

The Messengers

The only case where a review can be added to a publication is when the review is in the publication (for example in a magazine). I've deleted it (I supposed that you were trying to enter a review of The Messengers and not a review included in the book). Hauck 13:59, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. Really didn't want to cancel and start again.--Auric 14:06, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Isaac Asimov Presents, Volume 7

Re this publication: According to the OCLC record, this was read by Richard Rohan. Also, it doesn't credit Martin H. Greenberg as the editor. Is he explicitly credited on your copy? Mhhutchins|talk 02:07, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Right on the bottom. Thanks for the info. I'll add it.--Auric 10:57, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Scary Stories for Sleep-Overs

Hello, I've put your submission on hold. As per your notes, your copy is a 7th printing so it's unlikely that its publication date is 1991 (it seems that it's for the 1st printing). This mean that the date of your copy should be given as unknown ("0000-00-00"). Do you concur? Hauck 14:28, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

I don't recall anything in my notes about it being a 7th edition. Where do you see that?--Auric 14:35, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
The line "7 9 11 13 14 12 10 8" indicates a 7th printing (the lowest digit), a first printing has if the same format is used "1 3 5 7 9 8 6 4 2". Hauck 14:44, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
Okay. That makes sense. Go ahead.--Auric 14:49, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

The Phantom Menace

As above, your copy seems to be a second printing (it I understand correctly your notes), I've set the date to 0000-00-00. Hauck 14:34, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Again, nothing about a second printing.--Auric 14:38, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
"10-2" is usually a sign of second printing (it can also be "10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2"). What is exactly on the copyright page?Hauck 14:45, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
You've got it right.--Auric 14:57, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

The Devil Colony

With a number of pages of xiv+605, I don't understand how you can have pages numbered 609,646 or 649. Can you be more precise? Note that you also will have to variant all the new texts to James Clemens. Perhaps should also this book be treated as an OMNIBUS because it contains one previously published novel and a short story (not the excerpt). Hauck 14:42, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Pages actually continue explicitly to 647, but those are part of the novella, not the main text. There are no page numbers for the excerpt.--Auric 14:48, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
I've corrected the record, note that the problematic of the page numbers is one of the most thorny here (It's sometimes hard to follow even for me). I've left the book as a NOVEL supposing that the novella is a kind of bonus. Hauck 15:08, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

In a Dark, Dark Room and Other Scary Stories

You should not give a story length to an illustration (you set the field storylen to "ss"), it will trigger an cleanup report. I've corrected it. Note that the wikipedia link should only go to the title page of the whole collection.Hauck 14:48, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Oops. thanks for catching my mistake.--Auric 14:56, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Scary Stories for Stormy Nights

You try to make this a publication series for this publication but already made it a title series the previous time here. It's better to choose only one option. In a nutshell a title series is a group of title linked by some thematic, like the Dune books), a publication series is a series of publications linked by their aspect (for example the Ace Double). Hauck 15:03, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll try again.--Auric 15:16, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

The Magic Path

Hello, I'm not sure that this type of book is to be included in the db. Please inquire at The Moderator Noticeboard. Hauck 17:06, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Seems to be okay. Speculative fiction is a rather broad field.--Auric 18:53, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Foreword (Your Next Fifty Years)

Can you explain why you want to change the date for this item? Thanks. Hauck 17:07, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

At the end it says "Studio City, California January, 1979".--Auric 17:11, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
That's what I was thinking. In fact, for the ISFDB the writing date is not to be entered, only the first publication date is considered valid data (1980 in this case). Such date could eventually (I'm not for such a move) be included in the notes at title level (along the lines of "written in 1979").Hauck 17:26, 9 February 2016 (UTC)


Please merge this title with the correct one this one or that one. As a prose poem it should be entered as such. Hauck 17:24, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

The Magic Path

Did you intend to start a different series with this title? Mhhutchins|talk 20:15, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Yes. See [2] --Auric 20:17, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Sandworms of Dune

It's not likely that a 42 minute cassette can contain a novel-length work (more than 40,000 words). I'm pretty sure this is an excerpt from another Dune novel by Herbert. If so, it should be typed as CHAPBOOK, with a SHORTFICTION content record for the story. If this is actually a new NOVEL by Frank Herbert, then let me know and I'll accept the submission (and announce a new work to the world!) If not, then cancel the submission and enter it as CHAPBOOK. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 20:20, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

OCLC says it contains excerpts from the first three novels in the Dune series. Mhhutchins|talk 20:21, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

(edit conflict) The Worldcat page says "Comprised of portions of his Dune trilogy melded with connective text written by Mr. Herbert". Somehow the OCLC number wasn't submitted when I sent it.--Auric 20:24, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
It seems to fall within the definition of a chapbook, so I'll resend it.--Auric 20:28, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
Record accepted, but as I said above, CHAPBOOKs require a SHORTFICTION content record. Please add that in an update. Also, an OCLC record number should be entered in the format of "OCLC: 12345" (colon and space). Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 21:08, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
It would also be a good idea, once the SHORTFICTION record is in the database, to add a note explaining its nature. Mhhutchins|talk 21:10, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
Done. Thanks.--Auric 21:28, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
There's some misunderstanding here. This is a new work, titled "Sandworms of Dune" which was created by the author for this recording. So the publication should contain a single SHORTFICTION content record titled "Sandworms of Dune", with a note explaining its origin. I'll do it for you. Mhhutchins|talk 21:41, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
Thanks. I thought you meant that since there were part of all three, I shoud put them as three separate entries.--Auric 21:47, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

World's Best "True" Ghost Stories

According to OCLC, this publication is 22 cm which would make it "tp" if it has a soft cover. Is your copy that tall? Mhhutchins|talk 22:28, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

Sounds right.--Auric 22:35, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
Then please update the record. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 01:02, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

The Dragonmaster

I'm holding your submission to clone a record of this title to create another publication record with a different ISBN. According to OCLC, the book you're entering is Terror Under the Earth which is volume 3 in the series. If your book is a different title, you can't clone an existing publication with a different title. Cloning creates another publication with the same title. Mhhutchins|talk 01:01, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

Interesting. The book is correct, however the ISBN inside the book is not. --Auric 01:11, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
If the ISBN on the outside matches the current record, then update that record, leaving the outside ISBN, but adding a note about the inside ISBN. Then cancel the submission. If not, let me know here and I'll accept the submission. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 01:22, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
There aren't any outside ISBNs. Both ISBNs (see note field) are from the copyright page.--Auric 01:24, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
During that time, Tor gave both US and Canadian catalog numbers and prices on the front cover. Does your copy have a catalog number on the cover? It's possible that the copyright page ISBN is a misprint. If you can confirm that your book is The Dragonmaster and the only ISBN on it is 0-812-56040-X on the copyright page, I will accept the submission. Also by the note "'Abrams' on the cover" are you saying that the artist signature is visible on the cover art? If so, that's how it should be worded. Someone could misconstrue that as Abrams is credited on the cover. Sorry to be so picky, but these shorthand notes can be confusing to the average database user, and that's what we're here for. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 03:42, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
I've uploaded a cover image: Image:THDRGNMSTR1985.jpg. 0-812-56040-X is present. The other clearly says "Canadian ISBN". There is no catalog number on the front, however the order page has 56042-6 (56043-4 Canadian).--Auric 11:15, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

I've accepted the submission. Here is the record. Please add notes to describe the location (or lack) of the ISBN. Thanks. (You will have to reload the cover image under the correct publication record.) Mhhutchins|talk 18:00, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

Werewolf, Come Home

What does the "10-1" in the Note field of this publication record mean? Mhhutchins|talk 01:07, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

It's a short way of writing "10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1".--Auric 01:13, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
That should be made more clear in the note, e.g. "Number line 10-1". If someone like me doesn't understand it, I doubt the average database user would. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 01:20, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
I've been seeing it often. I thought everyone knew.--Auric 01:25, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
If you see that in an ISFDB record, please update the record to make it more clear. I've moderated almost a half million submissions to this database and have never seen it as just "10-1".
Also, I recently changed this to a CHAPBOOK with a SHORTFICTION content record based on the page length. An 87-page book is usually only novella-length at the most. Can you confirm that it has more than 40,000 words? Mhhutchins|talk 01:31, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
Interesting. I thought a chapbook was defined here, nor short for a "chapter book". Can you confirm?--Auric 01:36, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
Yes, that is the ISFDB definition of CHAPBOOK: a stand-alone publication of a single work which is either a POEM or SHORTFICTION. The latter is defined as a work of fiction which is less than 40,000 words in length. Thus, a CHAPBOOK contains a single work of fiction which is shorter than a NOVEL, which is defined as a work of fiction of more than 40,000 words. Mhhutchins|talk 01:57, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
I suppose it'll have to do. I always thought of a chapbook as a roughly bound book, like a folded sheet of pulp with the title on it and a few sheets of paper inbetween, not a bound book.--Auric 02:05, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
That's why the ISFDB has a documented definition to explain how we use the term and how it differs from other uses. We weren't able to come up with a new term to describe the type of publication that was unique for our purposes. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 18:04, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

In Search of Dracula

Re this publication: the publisher name should be Warner Paperback Library, not Warner Books. Please remove the data in the field for the publication series (that's an entirely different animal), and then enter the catalog number "78-069" in the Note field. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 01:19, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

I changed "LOC 72-80419" to "LCCN: 72-80419" which is the ISFDB standard format for entering Library of Congress record numbers. I also added "Catalog" before #78-069. Otherwise a database user wouldn't know what it means. Mhhutchins|talk 01:34, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
Thanks.--Auric 02:06, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

Early September

Please add a note to this publication record that only the spec-fic stories are included in the contents. Also, check the spelling of the author credit for the Fritz Leiber story. It would also be nice if you could merge the new content titles with the existing one. Here is the help page for merging titles. Mhhutchins|talk 01:26, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

Working on it.--Auric 01:37, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
Done. Waiting on your approval.--Auric 02:11, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

Journey by Broomstick

What is the publisher given on the title page of this publication? Pan Books wasn't part of Macmillan in 1976. Mhhutchins|talk 03:29, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

Not sure. It has Piccolo on the front, so I'll change it to that.--Auric 10:37, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
You're not sure what publisher is given on the title page? Is no publisher credited there? Where did "Pan Macmillan" come from? Mhhutchins|talk 17:55, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

The Magic Path

I changed this 53 page book from a NOVEL to a CHAPBOOK, and added a SHORTFICTION content record. Mhhutchins|talk 06:44, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

Thank you.--Auric 10:28, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

The Three and many Wishes of Jason Reid

Hello, I've approved your submission but had to add the necessary SHORTFICTION corresponding item. Note that we already have a Hazel Hutchins. Can you confirm the name on the title page of your book? (Amazon's covers usually show Hazel Hutchins and not H. J. Hutchins as you entered). Hauck 16:21, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

This is a pseudonym of Hazel Hutchins.--Auric 19:16, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
Yes, I know this. I just want to be sure of the author's name on the title page as the covers show Hazel Hutchins. Hauck 20:00, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
My cover clearly says H. J. Hutchins.--Auric 20:06, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
If it's H. J. Hutchins on title page (cover doesn't count), you'll have to make the needed variants. Hauck 20:58, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
Yes it is. I'm afraid I don't know what you mean by "make the needed variants". I don't want to mess this up and make the wrong ones.--Auric 21:28, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

The Given Sacrifice audiobook

Re this publication: Can you confirm this is an MP3 CD and not just a regular audio CD? It usually doesn't take 13 discs for a 15-hour recording using MP3 files. Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins|talk 00:45, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

It doesn't say one way or the other. I'll change it. See you late tomorrow.--Auric 01:09, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
The discs themselves should bear a statement of their format. A single MP3-encoded disc can contain as much as 9.5 hours of audio, while a regular CD can't contain more than 74 minutes. 13 CDs at 74 minutes would be about 15 hours. According to the website you link to, there are three formats: audio CD, MP3 CD, and digital download. According to OCLC, the ISBN of the MP3 version is 978-1-4001-6453-0. (The Amazon listing agrees.) And the OCLC record of your edition is for the audio CD version. Mhhutchins|talk 03:28, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

Witches' Brew

I disambiguated the title of the introduction in this publication. Mhhutchins|talk 04:59, 11 February 2016 (UTC) Thanks.--Auric 23:20, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

Art credit for The Dragonmaster

I'm holding your submission to add Karen Abrams as co-artist. Is she explicitly credited for the artwork, or just as a co-holder of the copyright? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins|talk 05:16, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

Co-holder, I think.--Auric 23:31, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
We don't use copyright unless there is no other credit. And it says right there on the cover "Illustrated by Paul Abrams". I'll accept the submission and remove the credit for Karen Abrams. If you wish, you could update the Note field to add the copyright data. Mhhutchins|talk 23:44, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

The Secret Mountain

You need to add a SHORTFICTION content record to this CHAPBOOK publication. That should be done every time a CHAPBOOK record is created. Saves both of us much time. Make sure to date it as 1941. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 00:39, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

Done. Thanks.--Auric 00:48, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

The Curse of Frankenstein

Re this record: did you intend to add a separate SHORTFICTION content record to this book which you entered as a NOVEL? Also, it appears "Horror Classic" is a publication series, and not a title series. How is it stated on the publication? Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 23:10, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

Pages 5-6 are the short fiction. The rest is about game mechanics and text relating to the game I've changed it to a chapbook. I have no idea how to change the type of a series.--Auric 00:00, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
Is this a role-playing gamebook? If so, it's not eligible for inclusion in the database. Mhhutchins|talk 00:03, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
No. it's a CYoA type novel, like Grailquest--Auric 00:12, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
So the story is part of the novel? Any part of a novel is considered the novel and shouldn't get a separate content record. If that's the case here, the SHORTFICTION record should be removed from the publication record and deleted from the database. 02:29, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
With your latest submission, you changed the NOVEL record to an INTERIORART record. Now there are two content records for the same work. You'll have to remove one of them from the publication and delete it from the database (as I suggested in my last note.) If you don't know how to do that, just ask. Mhhutchins|talk 02:48, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
I changed it because there was no way to zero it. The length field has a null value, but for some reason, the entry type doesn't. I'd be grateful if you could tell me how.--Auric 12:23, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
Sorry, I've automatically corrected this myself as the publication was on cleanup report. Hauck 13:07, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
Thanks again. Sorry for all the trouble.--Auric 13:12, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
To remove a content from a publication go to the publication record and click on the link "Remove Titles From This Pub" under the Editing Tools menu on the left side of the page. On the next screen, check the box of the content you wish to remove. Once that is moderated, the title record of the content you removed can be deleted from the database by clicking on the "Delete This Title" link under the Editing Tools menu. Mhhutchins|talk 16:52, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

Titles of maps

I changed the title of this record based on ISFDB standards, and moved your description to the Note field. We try not to give descriptions of the work in the title. We use the disambiguation "(map}" to distinguish a work typed as INTERIORART from other illustrations that appear in the same publication. You have the option of titling the record based on a captioned title. If it isn't captioned (or titled), the map should be given the name of the work in which it appears and then add the disambiguation. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 23:16, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

Also, keep the disambiguation in small letters, i.e. "(map)", "(maps)", "(frontispiece)", "(endpapers)", "(excerpt)", etc... Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 23:18, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks.--Auric 00:01, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

Jack Kirby

Because Kirby isn't known as a speculative fiction artist, a book of his art wouldn't be eligible for the database. We try as much as possible to separate comic books from speculative fiction, and limit eligibility to borderline cases where the artist is chiefly known for their work in the spec-fic field. If you understand my reason and don't wish to argue the point, please cancel the submission. If you disagree, I will continue to hold your submission to allow you to present your case before the group on the Community portal page. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 19:49, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

While I understand your reason, I have chosen to cancel it because of certain errors that only showed up after submission. If only there was a way to preview edits before submission...--Auric 19:54, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

Lord of the Isles audio book

Can you confirm the publisher credit for this record? Sources give it as simply "Nova Audio Books", which is an imprint of Brilliance Corporation. Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins|talk 23:16, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

This page and also this page refer to it as a separate publisher.--Auric 23:22, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
I'm not asking whether a secondary source can confirm the publisher credit. Can you confirm the publisher credit on your copy? Your answer to the question is a million times better than a secondary source. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 23:33, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
Unfortunately, I cannot lay my hand on the physical copy at this present time. I posses over 4000 works. Finding anything not on my shelves can be difficult to access as I have parts stored in two other locations not easily accessible. I try to confine myself to what is in reach, but it is so hard not to add works that I expected to be already listed.--Auric 00:55, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
Please don't do a primary verification of the record for a publication you don't have it in your hand. If you choose to create or update a record for a publication which you own, but the data comes from a different source, that's fine, but you must provide the source for the data in the record's Note field, and then do a PV once you're able to verify the data from the actual publication. (That's what we mean by "primary verification".) I ask that you go back to any records you may have PV'd based on secondary sources (without having the publication in hand), and add the source of the data in the Note field, and then remove the PV indicator.
Thanks for the explanation. Now I understand why some of my questions about your submissions aren't being directly answered. Mhhutchins|talk 01:39, 14 February 2016 (UTC)


Is there a price printed on your copy of this book? It may be the same as the other record we have which is sourced to Locus1. They may have entered the wrong ISBN into their database. Mhhutchins|talk 23:30, 13 February 2016 (UTC)

Author birth place data

Re this author's birth place: ISFDB standard is to enter births in the United States of America as "USA". Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 06:44, 14 February 2016 (UTC)

Price field of a Canadian edition

If this is the Canadian printing, then the price would be Canadian dollars, so it should be entered as "C$2.25". Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 02:10, 15 February 2016 (UTC)


Hello, I've put your submission for this novel on hold. Can you be more precise about its speculative fiction content (it seems to be a kind of societal satire). Hauck 18:21, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

I'm not sure what to say. I've always thought of it as spec-fic, in the same way that Bring Me the Head of Prince Charming is.--Auric 19:07, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
OK. Hauck 19:31, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

A Midsummer Tempest

Hello, if I read correctly the part of your note that states Number line 0-1, this looks more like a first printing to me this one?. What is stated on the copyright page? Hauck 18:26, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

No. The two are completely different. See the cover art for starters. (I haven't attached it yet.) Also no mention of Jim Baen. Cover artist not credited. Only the ISBNs are the same.--Auric 18:44, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
Yes, I saw the cover. What is exactly the number line? It's likely the second printing but the note as entered is not coherent with that. Hauck 18:47, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
The Number line says "0 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1". It is the second printing, I think. "First Tor printing: January 1984 / Second printing: December 1985" --Auric 18:55, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
It's such information that must go in the notes as your number line denotes a first printing, which is contradicted by the explicit mention of being a second printing. I've approved your submission and changed the notes. Please be more explicit in your notes, especially in such complicated cases. I've also merged the poem. Hauck 18:59, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
Thanks.--Auric 19:04, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

Format for entering non-ISFDB records

When entering the record number from an non-ISFDB database, such as the Library of Congress or WorldCat, please use the format "LCCN: 12345" and "OCLC: 12345" in the ISFDB publication record's Note field. The use of the colon will help to search for these records, and will aid in a universal update if we ever add a dedicated field for outside record numbers. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 05:16, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

Sorry.--Auric 11:27, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

Sourcing data

When adding data from a secondary source to a publication record (such as when you added the price to this one), you should give the source in the Note field, not in the Note to Moderator field. Any data entered into the latter field is temporary and will disappear forever once the submission is accepted. That field should only be used for information about the submission', not about the publication. That data should go in the Note field. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 05:19, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

Sorry.--Auric 11:21, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

Authors with initials

When entering authors with two initials, please leave a space between the first and second. I change "E.T. Randall" to E. T. Randall. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 07:00, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks.--Auric 11:20, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

The Summer Tree

Please confirm the publisher credit of this book. The ISBN range was used by Collins, HarperCollins (UK), and HarperCollins Canada, but it's priced in US dollars. And the price seems high for a 1992 US paperback. Also, this title was reprinted in a 1992 paperback edition in the US by another publisher. Perhaps this is a Canadian edition and it should be priced in Canadian dollars. Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins|talk 20:34, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. I'm going to assume it's Canadian.--Auric 20:52, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
Also, when you add something like "+[2]" to the Page Count field, it would help to add an explanation in the Note field. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 21:03, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
Sorry. I forget that not everyone has the same edition as me.--Auric 21:12, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

Submission for Omni Best Science Fiction One

Hello, I've put that one on hold, as the addition of 'Cover art is detail of "Gift of Wonder"' wasn't discussed with the primary verifier and it seems out of context: What is "Gift of Wonder" in the first place? Stonecreek 05:36, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

Gift of Wonder is this painting by Parkes. I've also left a message on the PV's page. --Auric 13:12, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
I've approved your submission and expanded the note by a few words. Thanks for finding the information. Stonecreek 18:37, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

Five Days of the Ghost

Can you see if this book's publisher is based in Canada, and whether the price should be in Canadian or American dollars? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins|talk 14:18, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

Looks like it. Thanks for catching this. There was no other price listed, So I assumed American.--Auric 14:22, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

Flat Stanley

I'm puzzled how this could be the first printing and have a number line 12-8. Mhhutchins|talk 23:02, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

It's the first Scholastic printing. --Auric 23:15, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
So what does the number line 12-8 indicate? Mhhutchins|talk 23:34, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
Unsure. First edition was in 1964, renewed in 1992. Earlier editions? --Auric 23:40, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
Just remembered. Scholastic used (uses?) a double number line. The first indicates the number of the printing and the second indicates the year of printing. So "12 11 10 9 8" and "4 5 6 7 8/0" means this is the 8th printing of the edition, and it was printed in 2004. Is "First Scholastic Printing" actually stated in the book? And is the printing date of September 2003 stated as well? Maybe the first printing was in September 2003, and your copy is from the 8th printing, appearing in 2004. Mhhutchins|talk 03:26, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
That makes sense. It says "First Scholastic printing, September 2003". I'll edit to update.--Auric 13:34, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Stanley's Christmas Adventure

If this doesn't have a printed price, then the price field should be blank, and that should be noted. Mhhutchins|talk 23:06, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

Same situation with this record. Was it published by the Canadian division of Scholastic? What is the publisher given on the title page? Is the stated publication date for this printing or for the first printing? Mhhutchins|talk 23:08, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

All publication dates are for the current printing. I've double-checked and they all seem to have been published in the USA. I've implemented your suggestions about the price. Thanks.--Auric 23:14, 21 February 2016 (UTC)

Beckoning Light

Can you confirm that in this publication "Panda Books" is a publication series, and not a imprint? Also, General Paperbacks appears to be a Canadian publisher. If so, please change the price to Canadian dollars. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 03:12, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

According to Worldcat, it is.--Auric 11:31, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Audio book of Last Action Hero

Can you confirm the ISBN for this recording is 1568760493? That number is assigned to another recording as seen here. Perhaps it should be 1568760116 as seen here? Maybe OCLC has it wrong. Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins|talk 19:46, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

That's correct. Good catch. My copy has a barcode with the wrong ISBN pasted over the real one for some reason.--Auric 19:57, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
I will accept the submission and you can make any necessary changes. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 20:50, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
Thanks.--Auric 21:55, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Google Books (ebook retailer)

I approved your submission adding a new publication record for this work, but it appears that we already have a record for the ebook edition. Whether you purchased it from Google or Amazon, the ebook remains essentially the same. Unless you believe there's a major difference between the two publications, I would suggest that you reconcile the two records into one. The price on Google Play is the same as the Amazon price. Also, are the number of pages user-defined in your copy of the ebook? If so, then the page count field of the record should be blank. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 22:55, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean by reconcile.--Auric 23:21, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
Combine the data from the two records into one record, and then delete the other one. See how I did it below. Mhhutchins|talk 23:26, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
I used Publication Diff. Is that correct?--Auric 23:32, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
I've never used that function, and honestly don't know what it's for other than to compare one publication with the other. It doesn't do anything else. What I'm asking you to do is to update one record, adding the data from one record's Note field to the other one, and then deleting the first record. That way there's one record that has the data for both the Google Play release and the Kindle release. And as I asked you to do, look at [this record to see how I reconciled two publication records into a single record. Mhhutchins|talk 02:10, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
OK, I see you've already done that. I'll make the Note field more clear by breaking the data down into separate lines. Mhhutchins|talk 02:12, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
Also my copy has a note that it is version 3.1. Is the other record the same?--Auric 23:24, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
We don't record separate records for different versions for ebooks in the database. You can note the version of the primary verified edition from which you recorded the data. Mhhutchins|talk 23:26, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

I reconciled this record for another ebook you just added to the database. Mhhutchins|talk 23:02, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks.--Auric 23:21, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

The Swords of Night and Day

Are you certain that this record is not the same as your copy? Is there only a Canadian price on it? Mhhutchins|talk 02:04, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

According to the Amazon Look Inside, it has both UK and Canadian prices on the back cover. And it states a 2005 printing date on the copyright page. Can you compare your copy to the one on Amazon UK? Mhhutchins|talk 02:07, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

Completely different. Canadian price only. No mention of price near barcode. --Auric 11:50, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
I've accepted the submission and added a note that it is priced in Canadian dollars only. Mhhutchins|talk 18:37, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

Making changes to verified publications

Hi. When you make a change to a publication that has a Primary Verifier, you should notify the verifier with a message on the verifier's talk page (or by following instructions you find there). If you are making an addition, it is ok to submit the change and notify the verifier at the same time. If you are changing something, you should ask and get agreement before submitting the change. You don't need to notify me anymore about the submission I have on hold, but you should notify Marc Kupper and Sjmathis about the other ones. Thanks. --MartyD 02:22, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

Sorry. It was getting late and I guess I forgot.--Auric 11:57, 24 February 2016 (UTC)

Magnus Chase and the Gods of Asgard

Hi, One month ago I revised and augmented the first edition first printing P533443, which you verified last week. Mainly I added all but the first of the Notes, namely "More data from library circulating copy, no dustjacket". Now I have in hand another library copy that includes the dustjacket.

I would like to revise the Notes thus:

  • delete "no dustjacket"
  • add "back inside flap: jacket illustration (c) 2015 John Rocco"; "front flap gives prices both US and Canada $19.99"

Then after approval I will verify the record myself, Primary (Transient). OK? --Pwendt|talk 22:12, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

Very good. Thank you.--Auric 22:41, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

Many Waters

I accepted the submission adding this record but zeroed out the publication date field. December 1991 was the date of the first printing, not this 15th printing. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 20:37, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks.--Auric 00:25, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

Goofy in Giant Trouble

This CHAPBOOK record is missing the required SHORTFICTION content record. Mhhutchins|talk 20:39, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

I noticed this just after I submitted. Thanks.--Auric 00:21, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

Imprint / Publisher

The publisher data in this record should be reversed. The imprint goes first followed by a space, slash, space, and then the publisher name. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 20:42, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

You'd think this was the other way around. Thanks for letting me know.--Auric 00:22, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
No, I wouldn't think that, since it's not the ISFDB standard. I know the Locus database does it the other way around, but then, I've always thought that was, well, backward. :) Mhhutchins|talk 03:52, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

Standard case in titles

The title of this publication should be Tales for the Midnight Hour. Note the non-capitalization of "for" and "the". The standards are explained in the "case" subsection of this help page. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 20:45, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

Edited. Thanks.--Auric 00:25, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
You'll also need to correct the case in the title field of the title record. Changing the title field of the publication record has no effect on the title field of the title record. Mhhutchins|talk 04:00, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
Done.--Auric 13:16, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

SFBC editions

Here are the standards for creating records for SFBC editions. Unless there is a change in a printed catalog number or ISBN, there is only one record created for SFBC printings. See this record for how later printings are recorded in the Note field. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 18:44, 28 February 2016 (UTC)

Writing Science Fiction and Fantasy

You might want to correct the author spelling on Writing Science Fiction and Fantasy to "Kilian" rather than "Killian". ;)SFJuggler 17:00, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for catching that.--Auric 15:13, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
As there wasn't any action following that hint, I went ahead and did the correction. Stonecreek 07:50, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
Interesting. I was sure I sent it in. (2016-03-01 10:51:46)--Auric 00:39, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

H. G. Wells Classic Collection

I'm holding your submission to add a 9th printing for this title. What is the source for the date you've provided. Seems unlikely that a book would be in its ninth printing within two weeks of the first printing, and be priced £5 higher. Mhhutchins|talk 06:13, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

I noticed this book the other day at a local Chapters. The price was out of my budget range, so I scanned the relevant portions into Drive, so I could look it up later. (Link) The publishing date is from the Indigo website. --Auric 13:50, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
That's the publication date for the first printing, not the 9th. I'll accept the submission and zero out the date. Please keep this in mind when entering later printings. Quite often a publisher doesn't give the publication date for that specific printing. Without a reliable secondary source for the date, the field must be entered as "0000" which is displayed as "unknown". Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 21:33, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Seven Deadly Wonders

Re this record: I think you mean that the pages of the interview are unnumbered (without numbers), not unpaged (without pages). Also, because you've created a content record for the interview, you should include it in the page count field. For example, if the interview is 5 pages long, the page count field would be entered as "547+[5]". Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 16:28, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

Sorry. I meant to put "unpaginated". Also, how should the interview be counted? There are 10 pages worth of content, but only 6 actual pages.--Auric 17:08, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
I'm not sure what you mean by that question. How can there be 10 pages of content in 6 pages? Remember, we count both the front and back of pages that contain text. (That's how numbered pages work as well.) Mhhutchins|talk 17:53, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
The front and back of one page can contain 2 pages of content. One of the pages, the "title" page has content on one side but not the other.--Auric 18:38, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
If the first page is [548] and the last page is [557], we enter that as "+[10]" regardless of how many pages have text. We don't go through a novel and deduct the number of blank pages in it, so why should we do it for a range of unnumbered pages? Mhhutchins|talk 22:48, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
I see your point. Correction sent.--Auric 23:09, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

Dipper and Mabel and the Curse of the Time Pirate's Treasure

Re this record: Publications which are more than 90 days from publication shouldn't be entered into the database. Experience has shown that the further away from publication that a book is, the more likely that some information may change. It's also not likely that the original editor will keep track of these records and update them when necessary. One other thing: the price you gave was Amazon's sale price ($7.38), not the list price ($12.99). I will correct the price and leave the record since we are approaching the 90-day window. Please keep this in mind for any future submissions. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 18:24, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

Oops. Sorry.--Auric 18:02, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

The Oath

The ISBN in this publication is missing a digit. Please recheck the book when you can. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 19:27, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

Change submitted. Thanks.--Auric 19:30, 31 March 2016 (UTC)


I'm assuming you have a copy of this publication based on your latest update to the record. If so, you should adjust the Note field accordingly (about Amazon being the source), and do a primary verification of the record. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 20:43, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

Forgot about that. Thanks for reminding me.--Auric 20:47, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

Grosset & Dunlap Wizard of Oz

I'm going to have to reject your edit to the 1963 Grosset & Dunlap printing of The Wizard of Oz. By changing the data of the date if the 1963 printing to 1965, you are effectively deleting the 1963 printing, which is reviewed in the Spring 1965 issue of The Baum Bugle. Is there some reason that you believe that review to be in error? Worldcat has an entry for the 1963 edition. They have a different entry for the 1965 edition that includes the Clemens novel. Given this evidence, I'm nearly certain that your book is not the same one reviewed in the Bugle.

There is another problem with the edit. Per the description you were adding, this should not be entered as a novel. Instead, it should be entered as an OMNIBUS, which is how we add books that include multiple novels. Ordinarily, you would enter both novels as content to the omnibus. However, since the Clemens novel isn't eligible for inclusion, you should only mention it in the notes. You should title the omnibus as "The Wizard of Oz / The Prince and The Pauper" and you can list both authors for the omnibus itself. After the edit is approved, you'll need to make the new title record into a variant with the canonical name of "Mark Twain" for Clemens. You'll also need to merge the new title for "The Wizard of Oz" that will be created with the existing title. It would probably be a good idea to add the Worldcat number for the omnibus (i.e. "OCLC: 798644959", or better yet "OCLC: <a href="">798644959</a>." which will create a link). Finally, you'll want to move your primary verification from the 1963 edition to the new omnibus. I can help you with any of these steps if you have any questions. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 01:28, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for your help on this. --Auric 02:05, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
Use the OCLC Permalink, if you're going to link the OCLC record to the IFSDB record. That is found in the upper right corner of the OCLC webpage for that record. Using the URL in your browser's address window may cause problems down the line (and it usually contains excessive, unnecessary characters.) Thanks. 02:32, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
Thanks, mysterious person.--Auric 03:08, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

Canadian edition

I updated this record, changing the publisher to "Collins (Canada)" and the price to "C$5.95". Mhhutchins|talk 21:38, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks.--Auric 21:40, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

Cover artist credit

Can you confirm the cover artist credit for this publication? Could it be Alun Hood? Mhhutchins|talk 06:08, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

Maybe, but the credit clearly says "Alan Hood".--Auric 13:05, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
Thanks. I'll create a variant (even though, in my opinion, an obvious typo in art credit should be noted and corrected.) Mhhutchins|talk 15:51, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone

I changed the date of this publication to "0000" (displayed as "unknown"). Unless a book has an actual statement of printing, and you don't have a reliable secondary source for the date, you should enter "0000" as the publication date. (This title didn't appear in softcover for a couple of years after it was first published, and the fifth printing would have been even later.) Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 18:53, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. That number line still puzzles me. The back cover art means it was printed before 2001, since later editions (after the film) show a plump Dumbledore.--Auric 19:04, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
Publishers have different ways of indicating a printing. The more titles you come across, the easier it becomes to figure them out. This one was rather simple. Scholastic's is a doozy. See below. Mhhutchins|talk 19:08, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Scholastic's number line

I added the publication date for this record based on the number line you provided in the Note field. Scholastic's two-part number line indicates the printing number on the left, and the publication date on the right. In the date portion, the first number is the year of the decade, and the number after the slash is the decade. So "2 3 4 5 6 7 / 9" would be "1992". Mhhutchins|talk 19:06, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks.--Auric 19:07, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
This doesn't mean that they thought there would be no new printings after 1997. A copy printed in 1998 would have the number line "8 9 / 9 0 / 0 01 02". Crazy! Mhhutchins|talk 19:11, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Sonia R. Hillios

One of the websites you linked to this author isn't working. Please check the URL. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 21:18, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Is it okay to change it to an archived version?--Auric 21:20, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
As long as no registration is required to view it. And it must be a direct link. Users shouldn't have to jump through hoops to see it. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 22:42, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
No problem. I always use Wayback.--Auric 22:55, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Working with Amazon image URLs

Hi. Amazon's image URLs often embed formatting information as part of the file name. The information can be about sizing, a white box background, or other adornments -- all of which we do not want. This information is inserted between the last two periods in the file name. When you use a link to an Amazon image, delete that information and one of the periods. For example, instead of:,204,203,200_.jpg,204,203,200_.jpg


Some more detail and other examples is available in the "Amazon" bullet of Help:Screen:NewPub#Image_URL. I did fix up the above two; this is just something to keep in mind for the future. Thanks. --MartyD 12:11, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. I've been removing what was between the underscores, as the link says, but it doesn't mention removing the other stuff.--Auric 16:04, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

Coville story or serial

Can you determine whether the SHORTFICTION content that you added to this publication is whole and self-contained or part of a larger work? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins|talk 18:38, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

It looks like your addition to this publication pretty much answers my previous question. Each part should be typed as SERIAL, titled "Disaster on Geembol Seven (Part 1 of x)", and then varianted to a parent record. Do you know if the complete work would total more than 40K words? If not, variant each of the SERIAL records to a single SHORTFICTION record.

Also, if the serial appears on unpaginated pages, then the page count field should reflect that. In the case of the second book, it should be something like "172+[20]". (You'll have to make the final determination, of course.) Mhhutchins|talk 18:42, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

The story was published in the first six novels of the series. There was no pagination in the story in the first part. I'me not sure it was ever collected. I'll start work to fill in.--Auric 21:50, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
Titles typed as SERIAL shouldn't have a length. Leave it blank. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 22:44, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
Oops. Sorry.--Auric 22:47, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

The Last Olympian submission

Hi. I have your submission adding a 2009 hardcover edition of The Last Olympian on hold. There's a problem with the ISBN in the submission -- I think it should be 9781423101475 not 9781432101475 -- but I also think it would duplicate this entry. Would you double-check? If it's a duplicate, please cancel the submission and augment the existing entry. If it is appropriate to keep but the ISBN's wrong, I will fix it upon acceptance (I don't like to have bad ISBNs floating around). Thanks. --MartyD 13:55, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for catching that.--Auric 14:38, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

The Secret of Platform 13

Re the publication date given in this record: The last number in the left side of the number line indicates the printing number (8th printing, in this case). The right side of the number line indicates the year (2001, in this case). What is your source for the month and year of your copy's publication date? Mhhutchins|talk 18:54, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

"First Scholastic Printing December 2000" on the copyright page. I'll put in a request to change it.--Auric 20:12, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

Chris Sheeban / Sheban

If the art credit (either cover or interior) is obviously an error, you have the option to correct it, and then note the mispelling or miscrediting. This will avoid the creation of a false pseudonym for the artist and an unnecessary variant. This is not the case for true pseudonyms (e.g. "Emsh" for Ed Emshwiller). Also, you don't have the same option for the misspelling or miscrediting of an author. Those credits must be entered as published. Thanks. Mhhutchins|talk 20:25, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for catching that. I thought it was the same for both.--Auric 22:47, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
While some editors (and moderators) believe it is the same, there's nothing in the rules that say artist credit should be handled the same as author credit. It's those differences that allows us to credit covers even when there is no stated credit. If an author is uncredited, we must enter it as "uncredited", but an uncredited artist can be credited when there is only a secondary source for that credit. When a publisher fails to change the cover art credit when a book is reprinted with a different cover, we can change that credit without making, for example, Frank Frazetta into a pseudonym for Ken Kelly just because the publisher screwed up. Mhhutchins|talk 07:40, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

The Wicked, Wicked Ladies in the Haunted House

Hi, I've put your submission on hold as you specified January as month of publication, without giving a source for this information. Could you please state it? Stonecreek 20:04, 3 May 2016 (UTC)

Sorry. Stated on the copyright page "1st printing January 1971".--Auric 20:34, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
Thanks. I added this to the notes. Stonecreek 04:05, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

Worlds of Star Trek Deep Space Nine Volume Two: Unjoined; Fragments and Omens

Hello, I've put your submission on hold. Please clear the matter with PV1. Thankls. Hauck 09:40, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

I left a note at their Verifications subpage earlier. I've now left one at their talkpage.--Auric 11:39, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
Thanks. Approved. Hauck 13:23, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

Le maléfice de Muncaster suivi de Brangwyn Gardens

Hello, I've regularized publisher and publication series this one for your recent submission. I've also added translator at title level. Hauck 15:30, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Thanks. I could have sworn it was published by Hachette jeunesse.--Auric 15:53, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
It's probably the case but it was decided a long time ago that we'll use "Le livre de poche". Hauck 16:10, 13 May 2016 (UTC)


I have your clone of Canticle on hold. It looks like you are creating a duplicate of this pub. While the current pub's note states "First Printing: October 1991" [Locus1 has November], it is unverified & the source is not listed. It is likely (especially given the Locus1 comment) that yours is the same pub and the note in the current pub is incorrect. Is there another reason you cloned a new pub? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 13:15, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

No. I'll cancel my submission and edit the other. Thanks.--Auric 16:43, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

"Swords of Dragonfire", by Ed Greenwood

You submitted a publication update to this book, to add the note " linked to Matt Stewart", where Matt Stewart is the cover artist. I'm not sure what that note is intended to mean. A search of that web site found no occurrence of the name "Matt Stewart" there. So what were you trying to tell us about? Chavey 18:43, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

On the copyright page it says "Cover Art by Matt Stewart (". I thought it should be mentioned. Matt Stewart's art was previously featured on the site. --Auric 18:47, 21 May 2016 (UTC)
Thanks! I'll re-word it to make it a little easier to understand, and add that Wayback Machine link you found. Chavey 03:26, 22 May 2016 (UTC)

Dating Scholastic publications

Hi. I am handling two of your submissions that deal with Scholastic editions. Scholastic embeds the publication date in the number line. See this for some info. A Scholastic number line with 12-7 5-8/0 would indicate a 7th printing in 2005, and 12-5 4-8/0 would indicate a 5th printing in 2004. Do you see any other numbers? --MartyD 01:44, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

To save you some edits, I changed the date on Stanley in Space to 2004 and on Stanley and the Magic Lamp to 2005 and added to the number lines a note to explain the date derivation. --MartyD 01:50, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
Thanks. Scholastic's number line's confuse me sometimes.--Auric 02:01, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
One more that I updated: Trapped in the Principal's Office. The 8-10/0 means 2008. --MartyD 02:03, 1 June 2016 (UTC)

One Second After addition

I think your proposed One Second After clone that I have on hold creates a duplicate of this entry. See what you think. Thanks. --MartyD 10:58, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

My copy says May 2011.--Auric 11:16, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
Yes, but notice the other entry's information came from Amazon. Information from your real book wins. :-) I think you should just edit and verify that entry. If you want, you could mention that Amazon dates it in April but the book dates itself in May, but that's not even necessary. --MartyD 11:42, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
Okay. Thanks for the suggestion.--Auric 11:49, 3 June 2016 (UTC)

Environments Out There

You have a note on Environments Out There "3rd printing, no price given". The puzzle is you also uploaded a cover image that shows "TX 757 60¢" on the upper-right of the main photograph (below the title and to the right of the author name). If the cover is for your publication then the price should be entered in ISFDB as $0.60. --Marc Kupper|talk 07:54, 11 June 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for spotting this!--Auric 20:37, 11 June 2016 (UTC)

Thuvia, Maid of Mars

You already had a note on Thuvia, Maid of Mars with 'Glossary title misspelled as "A Glossary of Names and Terms Used in the Martin Books"'. The publication record was using the glossary title with correct spelling of "Martian". It turns out we already had a title record for the mis-spelled title. I've updated your publication record to use this title on the theory that we should be entering stuff exactly as spelled in the publications. --Marc Kupper|talk 07:34, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

Blizzard of the Blue Moon

I accepted your edits to Blizzard of the Blue Moon, but something is missing from the page count. Thanks. --MartyD 01:04, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for spotting that.--Auric 01:07, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
Here is another. --MartyD 01:50, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

Tales to Tremble By

Hi, from my copy I have added a new cover image, catalogue number, some notes, and the cover artist credit to Tales to Tremble By. I can also assign the proper illustration to each story if you want. I have no life. :) MLB 03:08, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

Go right ahead. Thanks.--Auric 10:51, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
Done. MLB 02:08, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

French capitalization

Hello, when entering titles in french, please use the french capitalization rules: Capital only on first word and proper nouns, and use the accents so Le Reveil de la Momie should be entered as Le réveil de la momie. Hauck 19:48, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for clarification about the titles. I only noticed the accents after I submitted it. --Auric 19:52, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

Ghost Stories of an Antiquary

Hi, could you check out your copy of Ghost Stories of an Antiquary? My copy has a price tag of $1.75, which may indicate an earlier printing than the one that you verified. Although with Dover you sometimes never know. MLB 19:16, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

Further inspection of my copy leads me to believe that it is actually this undated edition. I've swapped my verifications accordingly. Thanks for catching this.--Auric 20:35, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

The Return of the King binding

I accepted your The Return of the King submission, but might its binding be pb instead of hc? I notice the 69th with the same ISBN and page count is pb. Thanks. --MartyD 22:50, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

No, it's definitely hc.--Auric 22:52, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
Thanks. Guess I'll go ask a different, but similar, question of the verifier of the 69th. :-) --MartyD 03:06, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

The Warmasters

Hello, I've approved your submission here but was wondering if the publication date shouldn't be set to "0000-00-00" as the date you gave is for the first printing. Have you other data than can confirm this simultaneity? Hauck 13:20, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

The copyright page gives the same date for the first and second printing, May 2002.--Auric 14:47, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
OK, I've slightly modified the notes. Thanks for having a look. Hauck 15:15, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

Mark Twain's Best

Hello, I've put your submission on hold. IMHO this book should only be credited to Twain as we do not reccord (except in the notes) the editor of collections. Hauck 13:02, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

Okay. I wasn't sure. Thanks.--Auric 18:49, 17 August 2016 (UTC)
Approved and corrected. Hauck 19:08, 17 August 2016 (UTC)
Thanks again.--Auric 10:21, 18 August 2016 (UTC)

A Book of Boys' Stories

I've changed the type of this publication from COLLECTION (one author) to ANTHOLOGY (more than one) and supposed that both authors are its editors (if not it should be credited to "uncredited"). Hauck 18:05, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

It's listed at SFE as a collection. [3].--Auric 18:10, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
Alas we're not the SFE, see here for a more detailled explanation. Hauck 18:46, 19 August 2016 (UTC)

Image Size

Hello, please respect the maximum of 600 pixels for your uploaded images. Thanks. Hauck 12:46, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

Can you link to that policy? I can't find it.--Auric 12:41, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
For example, it's spelled here or there. Hauck 12:52, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
Okay. I was expecting a separate policy page. Maybe one should be written.--Auric 13:01, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

Aspects of Science Fiction

Hi, I've imported content for your verified copy of Aspects of Science Fiction.--Dirk P Broer 19:55, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for your help.--Auric 22:27, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

"Dragonbone Chair", by Tad Williams

Can you please recheck your verification of this book? You say that it's the 23rd printing, with a $9.99 price. But the 24th printing is verified at $7.99, and the 33rd is verified at $8.99. Furthermore, another verification of the 23rd printing says it was $7.99. So it seems that either you have the wrong printing, or you have entered the Canadian price, or something else unusual is going on. Chavey 14:36, 7 September 2016 (UTC)

You're right, it was the Canadian price. Thanks for catching that.--Auric 22:23, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

Stranger in the Mist

Hello, I've put your submission on hold as your proposed publication looks to me a lot like this already existing one (apart from the publisher). What are your thoughts on the matter? Hauck 14:12, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

I agree it's similar, but the publisher is different. --Auric 14:23, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
As the record is not PVed, the data is probably from our robot and so the publisher is "tentative" (you'll also note that yopu're both using the same amazon image). In this case, due to the sameness of the ISBN and after some research that shows that the publishers may be the same here for example, you can confidently take the PV1 spot of the existing publication where I've added your data. I've rejected your submission. Hauck 14:51, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
Thanks very much.--Auric 17:36, 15 September 2016 (UTC)

Tapping the Dream Tree

I imported content for Tapping the Dream Tree which you verified... Susan O'Fearna 04:17, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for doing that.--Auric 17:29, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

Merging of excerpts

Hello, I've put your submission to merge excerpts of Perelandra on hold. Are sure that the excerpts are exactly the same? (It seems that you're not PV of the anthologies). Hauck 13:52, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

I'll cancel it if you think they aren't the same.--Auric 16:30, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
I've dug out my copy of the anthology, the excerpt starts with "There was no casket now." and ends with "become convex again.". Is it the same for yours? Hauck 17:01, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
Guess not. Mine starts with "As I left the railway station". It's part of the first chapter.--Auric 17:27, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for having a look, I'll reject the submission. Hauck 17:29, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
I've already cancelled it, as I said I would.--Auric 17:29, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Wingert's Grasp the Stars

Added the Canadian cover price to our verified pub. PeteYoung 21:22, 24 September 2016 (UTC)

Thanks.--Auric 02:25, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

The Andreasson Affair

Hello, I've put your submission on hold as I don't see how this book is speculative fiction or about speculative fiction and is not by an author above the threshold. Can you be more precise? Hauck 12:35, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

We already have one NF by him (The Watchers) which deals with the same subject, alien abductions.--Auric 12:42, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
The existing one is likely here because it's reviewed in a SF publication. I've rejected your submission. Hauck 12:44, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
I see you've deleted the author as well.--Auric 12:50, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
Yep! Hauck 15:43, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

Secondary Sources

When a publication is primary verified, it is assumed the information comes from the publication. If there is information that is not in the publication, then a secondary source can be used. However, the notes should state what information is from the secondary source. I have accepted you edits to The Golden Princess, but you left "Data from Amazon (date) and Locus Magazine #646 as of 2014-11-06." in the notes. If all the data is in pub, then this note should be removed. If something is from the secondary sources (i.e. you kept the Amazon date), then it should be rewritten to be more precise (ex. "Date from Amazon as of 2014-11-06."). However, in that case, you should also indicate what date information was in the pub in the notes (i.e. if there is a printing statement). Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 02:20, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

Sorry, I forgot to take that part out. Thanks for letting me know.--Auric 19:36, 14 October 2016 (UTC)


Your verified Darkspell has a Publication Date of 1994-12-00 but the Notes state the Number Line as OPM 19-12. Shouldn't the Publication Date be 0000-00-00? I've just added the December 1994 version which has a number line of [OPM 0 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1] which makes it the first printing. --AndyjMo 14:29, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

I'll change it. Thanks.--Auric 18:48, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

Possible Typos 30-Oct

Here are possible typos in your verified pubs:

If the typo is in the database, it should be corrected. If the typo is in the publication, notes should be added to the title records stating the spelling is per the publication. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 17:45, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for catching this.--Auric 18:53, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

I added the Canadian price to your verified

I added the Canadian price to your verified [4].Don Erikson 19:14, 31 October 2016 (UTC)

Thanks.--Auric 18:41, 1 November 2016 (UTC)

Chrome Circle

I've added the source of the Cover artist for Chrome Circle. --AndyjMo 19:00, 9 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks.--Auric 15:19, 10 November 2016 (UTC)


Judging from amazon's look inside it is only Roar (instead of ROAR), as we usually normalize titles with capitals only (unless it's an abbreviation). Is this or any other reason given here? Thanks for looking, Stonecreek 16:44, 19 November 2016 (UTC)

In grave danger about forgetting on this topic I've moved ahead and changed the record. Stonecreek 07:56, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
Thanks. Sorry I haven't been around for awhile.--Auric 19:56, 24 November 2016 (UTC)

Afterword in The Lost Gate

Hi. When dealing with a clone of your verified The Lost Gate, I noticed that the afterword had been titled "The Lost Gate (Afterword)". That seemed to be backwards. The verifier of the cloned edition confirmed the title is "Afterword" in his edition, and I found the same to be true in the Look Inside on Amazon for the ebook and hardcover editions, so I changed that title (it is shared) in place to "Afterword (The Lost Gate)". Please check your copy and make sure that is ok. Thanks. --MartyD 11:36, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

Looks fine. Thank for noticing.--Auric 21:04, 27 November 2016 (UTC)

Out Of This World

As it is a well-known fact that I have no life, do you mind if I add the individual illustrations to Out Of This World from my copy as you are the primary. MLB 01:25, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

I have now added the illustrations, I will variant them when accepted. MLB 07:13, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
Thanks for doing this. Any time you want to do something similar, go ahead.--Auric 19:55, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

ISBN on Dragon of the Red Dawn

Hi. The ISBN on your submission for Dragon of the Red Dawn (054508239X) isn't valid. Might it be 054508539X instead? --MartyD 02:27, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

Yes, sorry about that.--Auric 13:57, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
Just checking. There have been plenty of publications with incorrect ISBNs on them. I accepted the submission and corrected the number. --MartyD 14:03, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
By the way, while researching the ISBN, I found on Amazon this cover image, if that's the right one. --MartyD 14:06, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

Editor for Here Come the Holidays!

Your submission for Here Come the Holidays! has the editor as "unknown", but also has you as primary verifier/book-in-hand. Do you have the book? If so, and there's no editor credit, we should use "uncredited". If your information is from a secondary source that doesn't identify the editor, then we'd use "unknown". Thanks. --MartyD 02:36, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

I checked and it says "Only Award Bibliography is available for "uncredited" ". --Auric 12:52, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
I assume you mean this page? That only means that there are too many "uncredited" records to display so only the award bibliography page is available for display. Basically, we don't have an author page for uncredited works and you have to use the search function to find them. The help is specific in stating If the work is not credited at all, use "uncredited", with a lower case "u". -- JLaTondre (talk) 13:46, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
Okay, I see. I thought it meant that uncredited was only to be used for awards.--Auric 13:56, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
No problem. I just wanted to be sure you had the book. I've accepted the submission and changed unknown to uncredited. Thanks. --MartyD 14:01, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

Tonight on the Titanic

I have your edit to clone Tonight on the Titanic on hold. It looks like you are creating a duplicate of this pub? -- JLaTondre (talk) 13:40, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

Sorry, I forgot to change the price. It's $3.99.--Auric 13:50, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
They are most likely the same one and the $4.99 price is an Amazon artifact. But instead of making you re-enter the data, I accepted your edit, changed the price to $3.99, and deleted the other one. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 14:27, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

EQMM Cover Art

Cover art for non-genre magazines is only included if it illustrates genre content. As such, I have removed the cover art from the March 1989 issue. For the July 1984, it looks like this might illustrate the listed genre story? Would you please confirm? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 14:13, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

I wondered why there were so few covers for EQMM. Unfortunately, I can't quite remember where my copy of this issue went. It may be a while before I can dig it out again.--Auric 20:55, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

Dark Dreams

Your verified Dark Dreams is a duplicate of an prior existing publication which is also verified. Please move your verification over to the other publication and I will deleted your duplicate. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 19:25, 25 December 2016 (UTC)

Not sure how I missed that, but thanks.--Auric 04:09, 27 December 2016 (UTC)

Ellery Queen's Mystery Magazine, March 1987

I accepted your addition of Ellery Queen's Mystery Magazine, March 1987, but I have a question on the Cover Story review. This looks like a techno-thriller at best and not a book that is illegible for inclusion based on web synopses. If so, it should not be included. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 00:32, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

I wasn't sure. Forbes is a pseudonym for Raymond Harold Sawkins.--Auric 13:27, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

A String in the Harp

Just corrected a spelling mistake that I made on my submission of the book A String in the Harp way back when. MLB 23:04, 30 December 2016 (UTC)

I added the Canadian price to your verified

I added the Canadian price to your verified [5].Don Erikson 18:23, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks.--Auric 22:59, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

Interior art + notes in Harry Potter et la Chambre des Secrets

I accepted your changes to Harry Potter et la Chambre des Secrets, but the note says there are no interior illustrations, while left the interiorart record (although you changed the artist). Is one of those two things a mistake? Thanks. --MartyD 03:56, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

It clearly says on the back: "Illustrations:Jean-Claude Götting" yet there are no interior illustrations. Two illustrations appear on the back cover.--Auric 13:03, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Deep Fathom

I just added a more complete cover to your verified record of Deep Fathom. MLB 04:52, 26 January 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. I have no way to do this without sacrificing the book.--Auric 03:27, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
Well, my book wasn't in the greatest of shape to begin with. MLB 10:19, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

The Illustrated Eric

I added a cover scan and some notes to your verified pub The Illustrated Eric. Bob 22:45, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

The Clan Corporate

I approved your edit to The Clan Corporate. However, as you gave the page count as 300+10 with the excerpt starting on 303, I'm assuming those 10 pages were unnumbered. As such, I updated the page count to 300+[10] and the page number to [303] as that is our standard for unnumbered pages. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 03:35, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

Actually, only the pages 301-303 are unnumbered.--Auric 18:50, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
If the 304-310 are numbered, than it should be entered as 310. Is that the case? -- JLaTondre (talk) 22:21, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
Okay, I'll change it.--Auric 17:01, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Fire Star date

Hi. Where did you get the 2006-09-00 date for Fire Star? I believe the 07-11 portion of the numberline means 2007 (and the 10-4 part means fourth printing). --MartyD 02:15, 22 February 2017 (UTC)

On the copyright page, it says "This edition first printing, September 2006".--Auric 02:54, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
I think that is the date of the first printing, but this one's the fourth printing, based on the 10-4 part of the number line (10 9 8 7 6 5 4?), and then the 07-11 (07 08 09 10 11?) means 2007. --MartyD 02:54, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
Makes sense. I've put in a correction to 2007.--Auric 03:16, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

"Lost in Space", by Joan D. Vinge

Could you check the publication date of your verified publication? It currently says "April 1998", but that data appears to be from Locus. My 2nd printing says "First paperback printing: May 1998". Chavey 04:28, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

Based on your comment, I'm removing my verification, since I now believe my copy is actually 339362. Thanks.--Auric 20:18, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

Interviewee in Omni, April 1987

Hi. Could you please check if the interviewee in this interview in your primary verified Omni, April 1987 is the scientist Konrad Lorenz? Thanks. Jens Hitspacebar 14:08, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

I'm not quite sure what you mean. This is Konrad Lorenz, author of On Aggression, who passed away in 1989. Did you have someone else in mind?--Auric 19:58, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
No, that was exactly who I had in mind. I asked because Konrad Lorenz is not an uncommon name, there were no other data attached to his database record except for his name when I posted my question, and we already have another Konrad Lorenz in the database (which needs disambiguation). Thanks for checking and completing his database record. Jens Hitspacebar 22:13, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
We do not list interviews of people "exterior" to the genre (scientist, movie stars, etc...) as it would clutter the db (you'll notice that it's the sole record for this person). I've changed the INTERVIEW to an ESSAY. Hauck 19:36, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

Piratas / Pirates variant

Hi. Your make-variant submission for "Piratas después del mediodía" to "Pirates Past Noon" is trying to make the Spanish CHAPBOOK title a variant of the English SHORTFICTION title, which isn't right. You'll need to do two variants: Spanish CHAPBOOK to English CHAPBOOK and Spanish SHORTFICTION to English SHORTFICTION. I've left it on hold so you don't have to redo the work of finding those two. Thanks. --MartyD 19:36, 26 February 2017 (UTC)

Note also that the ISBN given matches the one on this publication which may warrant some thought. Hauck 19:42, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
I noticed that on accepting the original submission. I can't tell where the entry for the 2004 edition came from. If you search for "piratas al mediodia", it comes up with three Turtleback / library editions, but all three entries, while titled "Piratas Al Mediodia", show the same "Piratas después del mediodía" cover (this combination is widespread throughout the net -- it's not just at Amazon). --MartyD 03:16, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
So maybe "Piratas Al Mediodia" is a variant title for "Piratas después del mediodía"?--Auric 15:30, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
More likely "Piratas al mediodía" ("Pirates at Noon") was the title they first planned, but then they decided on a different translation, and it was never published using "al" only "después del". Anyway, there is plenty of evidence for "después del" so you should go ahead with those variants (or I can do it if you'd rather). --MartyD 11:42, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
Please. I can't figure out how to do it.--Auric 12:12, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
Just in case you're wondering, I've cleaned up some orphan titles and the variant in error. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hauck (talkcontribs) .
Ok, I rejected the original, mismatched submission and made the variants. See this for the results. --MartyD 02:04, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
Thank you very much for sorting this out.--Auric 02:06, 1 March 2017 (UTC)

Many Waters

I added the cover artist to your verified pub Many Waters and a note explaining the source of the information. Bob 01:59, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Thanks.--Auric 11:37, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Le Camp des Saints ; précédé de Big Other

Hello, I've approved your submission but had to make some changes:

  • Price changed to €22.50 (instead of 22,50 €).
  • Type changed to tp (dimensions are 14 x 3,3 x 21,6 cm).
  • French capitalization used.
  • Title simplified (Big other is just the name of the foreword).
  • Title merged with the existing one (you should have used "Add Publication to This Title").

Hauck 12:19, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. I was confused by "Big other". Usually I see "foreword by". I thought it might mean a previous title in a series. The price is how it was printed on the back.--Auric 12:25, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
I've approved your two submissions but please, please, please, do not use abebooks as a source. The J'ai Lu is this one so is of course not a hc (it's 11x16.5 cm) and can't possibly have an ISBN-13, the Livre de Poche is this one and also can't have an ISBN-13.Note that both books are likely to have pubseries# (they can be found here). Hauck 16:14, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
Thanks. So why do both abebooks and have an isbn-13 attached? I find it rather strange.--Auric 16:26, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Question about "The Book of Night With Moon"

Do you still have the SF Book Club edition of The Book of Night With Moon? Could you go to page 338 and check the title of that section? You have it as "A Very Partial Alurian Glossary" -- I have the mass-market paperback edition, and that section is titled "A Very Partial Ailurin Glossary." Not sure if you made a mistake entering it, or if I should treat them as variants. BungalowBarbara 05:40, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

No, this was a mistake on my part. Thanks for pointing it out. I've put in a correction.--Auric 23:43, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
Thank you! I'll import it into the mass-market version I'm verifying. BungalowBarbara 20:09, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

Now I have another question about the Ailuran Glossary, if you don't mind. Does the Glossary in The Book of Night With Moon match the one in To Visit the Queen, which you also verified? BungalowBarbara 00:36, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

Yes it does. I've put in another correction. The proper spelling is "Ailurin". Thanks for figuring this out.--Auric 18:30, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Charles Dickens Author Image

Hello, I've placed your submission on hold as LibraryThing is not listed as an approved site to link an image from according to the Image Linking Permissions page, which also explains why permission is required. Thanks, Albinoflea 04:19, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

Strange, since the link I'm replacing is from LibraryThing as well. If it's not approved, how was it linked in the first place?--Auric 09:23, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
I also found four LT links listed on this page: , of whom, Frank R. Stockton and Lord Alfred Tennyson's images both link to LT, both dead links. --Auric 09:27, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for bringing this up; I hadn't noticed that the old link was also from LT. It looks like LT changed the directory their images were stored in and that has broken their older links.
As to why it was linked in the first place... it's possible someone approved a submission despite the warning, or that at the time of the original submission the warning didn't flag it... the warning system itself is constantly evolving and sometimes lags behind the rules and best practices.
Regardless, sorry to have been the bearer of bad news. I imagine we can find other images of those authors in the public domain. Albinoflea 14:08, 29 March 2017 (UTC)

Scare Scape

Hello, I've put your submission on hold. It seems to me that your book is likely this one. In order to avoid multiplying publications, It's better for you to "take over" the existing publication instead of creating a new one. Hauck 17:12, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

The problem is that the cover art and pagecount is different.--Auric 17:14, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
Both fields are notoriously unreliable when coming from amazon. As yours is the first printing, it's coherent enough with the date for the amazon record to be quite sure of our approach. Hauck 17:20, 1 April 2017 (UTC)
Okay then. Thanks.--Auric 17:26, 1 April 2017 (UTC)

40th Dolphins at Daybreak

I accepted Dolphins at Daybreak, but I'm pretty sure the "4 5/0" in the Scholastic numberline means 2004. As the other part of the numberline tells us it's a 40th printing, 2004 seems reasonable. Do you see an explicit statement above it about September 1998? If so, that probably refers to the first printing (which we have dated in 1997 off of Amazon information; you could fix up that date and those records based on the statement from this edition). --MartyD 14:01, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

Done. Thanks.--Auric 14:10, 2 April 2017 (UTC)

Hide and Shriek

I have your edit to Hide and Shriek on hold. Your edit is for a third printing per the number line in your proposed notes. However, the date is left at 1995-07-00 which would be the presumed first printing. Is there a date specific to the third printing? If not, it should be entered as '0000-00-00'. (Technically, in that case, you should leave the original version and clone a new version for the later printing. However, since you have entered all the information already. I can accept it as is and clone the original back.) -- JLaTondre (talk) 23:18, 4 April 2017 (UTC)

I have gone ahead and accepted the edit, but changed the date to '0000-00-00' & edited the notes to reflect it is a third printing per the numberline. Please double check the record. I also 're-created' the original record for the first printing. -- JLaTondre (talk) 21:17, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for doing that. I missed your first post.--Auric 00:10, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

More on The Book of Night with Moon

Hi, I have now obtained my own copy of The Book of Night with Moon and will be verifying it. I have updated the image link to a more stable form (it's the same image, just a different URL). I have also added Notes about what's on the copyright page, Canada price, and the existence of an Epilogue. BungalowBarbara 20:35, 5 April 2017 (UTC)

"Dragon Rider", by Cornelia Funke

You verified this publication of Dragon Rider, and listed it as being published in Sept. 2004. You also show the number line, which tells us that this was a 4th printing. So your publication date says this was published in the same month as the first printing? Do you have any reason to believe this is the actual publication date of your copy? Chavey 22:35, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

Also, I corrected the spelling of the translator from "Althea Bell" to "Anthea Bell". Chavey 22:44, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
It says "First American edition, September 2004". The rightmost part of the numberline is "04 05 06 07" The leftmost number of that is usually the last two digits of the publication year. --Auric 23:48, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
The phrase "First American edition, September 2004" means that the original printing occurred in Sept. 2004, but probably not the later printings. The rightmost part of the number line shows that your copy was printed in 2004, but doesn't give any indication that it was in September. So the publication date should probably be changed to "2004-00-00". Chavey 00:58, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
Okay, submitted correction.--Auric 02:48, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
Thanks. Chavey 04:14, 17 April 2017 (UTC)


Hello, I've approved your submission but can you check the ISBN? Thanks. Hauck 17:21, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

Correction submitted. Thanks.--Auric 18:45, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

The Wicked Wizard

I accepted your addition of The Wicked Wizard, but changed it to a CHAPBOOK. At 89 pages, especially for a Scholastic publication, this wouldn't be long enough for a full novel length. -- JLaTondre (talk) 00:45, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Thanks.--Auric 00:59, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

"The Little Giant Book of "True" Ghost Stories"

I used the WorldCat record to add the contents to your verified publication. Of course WorldCat doesn't record the page numbers, and I leave those to you if you wish to fill them in. Chavey 08:32, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for doing this.--Auric 12:10, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
No problem! I have a macro that does a full copy of contents from WorldCat to us. I also just imported the contents for your verified Tales of the Greek Heroes; again, without page numbers. Chavey 12:47, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

A batch of nongenre stories - if you disagree please comment

Currently there are numerous non-genre horror stories that are in the database because it's natural to just enter a book of horror or "tales of terror" without figuring out which stories are supernatural. I don't intend to systematically hunt for them, but when I spot one, I like to mark it nongenre. (In the case of classic stories, marking is better than removing it from the database because it'll just get re-added with some new anthology.) At the moment, I've spotted the following stories that I think need such a change, and I'm consulting people who have them in their verified pubs.

Firstly, there's Great Tales of Terror and the Supernatural (verified copies: (1), (2), (3), (4), (5), (6), (7)), which contains "A Terribly Strange Bed," "The Three Strangers," "The Most Dangerous Game," "Leiningen Versus the Ants," "A Rose for Emily," "Taboo," and undoubtedly other non-supernatural ones that I'm not noticing at the moment. Here are verified publications for those and some other stories:

Are there any of those stories you think ARE genre? Vasha 15:28, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

The odd story out here is The Cone, which Wikipedia has classified as science fiction.--Auric 18:49, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
Well yeah, but their own description contradicts that...
In any case, the discussion has been moved to the Community Portal. --Vasha 00:56, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

Fireside Reader

In your verified pub Fireside Reader, "TIckets Please" by D. H. Lawrence is definitely nongenre. --Vasha 01:24, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

And?--Auric 11:47, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
I would like to remove it if that's OK with you. Doesn't need to be marked because it only shows up in this one publication, and is very unlikely to be re-added to the database. --Vasha 13:53, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
If you want to.--Auric 20:06, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
Can we make sure there is a note added what is skipped and why (or even just a blanket "Only speculative stories are added in the TOC below") so it is clear that this is not the complete TOC? Not everyone that gets here understands how we add TOCs and what we include or exclude and having an incomplete TOC with no explanation on why may make them wonder what else is wrong in the DB. Annie 20:10, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
I used to be able to add a biographical note, but I can't find the link to add one anymore.--Auric 20:15, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
Use the Pub Notes field - we are migrating all the old notes that were in Wiki to these fields now. Annie 20:22, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
I do always make a note saying "only speculative content has been included", and if I have omitted a few stories from a mostly speculative collection, I list them in the note. Is there anything in the advice to new editors that says what to do with partially-relevant anthologies? --Vasha 20:29, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

The Rocky Mountain Monster

Hello, I've approved your submission but the publication series here may have to be somehow disambiguated. Hauck 18:08, 3 June 2017 (UTC)

The Little Giant Book of "True" Ghost Stories

In your verified The Little Giant Book of "True" Ghost Stories, "Spook House" by John Macklin is listed twice. Is this correct? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 20:35, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

Chavey added the contents to that entry. Likely an error on their part.--Auric 14:08, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

I added the Canadian price to your verified

I added the Canadian price to your verified [6].Don Erikson 02:04, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark number line

I think the Scholastic numberline you cite in Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark, 12-8,2-4/9, means this is the 8th printing of the 1989 Scholastic edition (the 12-8), and it's from 1992 (the 2-4/9 -- the "/9" indicating 199x). --MartyD 14:49, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. I've submitted a correction.--Auric 14:56, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
Which I had to reject, as we'd like to keep the first printing, too. Please use the clone function instead. Thanks, Stonecreek 15:23, 11 June 2017 (UTC)


Removed reference to number line, moved external identifier.--Dirk P Broer 09:25, 8 July 2017 (EDT)

External Identifiers and templates


I approved your moving of the OCLC in the two books. However we have templates in addition to the external identifiers (including ones for BNF and OCLC). So when there is a direct link that matches what the template does, it is a good idea to change the direct link as well. The full list of them is here. If you would rather just move the OCLC anyway, that is fine (someone else will change the others later) but in cases like this one for example I will also pull the BnF number down in the External identifiers and then leave just text for WorldCat and BnF (as I updated it now) or if you prefer links, you can use the templates.

The less direct links we have in the notes, the less likely is that someone will need to manually change them when an external site moves or changes how they define their links :) Annie 18:05, 17 July 2017 (EDT)

Price on Sombre destin

Hi. I accepted your Sombre destin submission, but the price of "8,99$" is not formatted correctly. Would you please check it and fix it? Thanks. --MartyD 21:29, 20 July 2017 (EDT)

Sure. And remember, its --~~~~ for a signature.--Auric 19:20, 18 July 2017 (EDT)
LOL. Sorry, I have no idea what happened there (I normally just use the button). I was in a rush and having computer freeze-up problems all at the same time, or I would have tried to check and fix up the price myself. Anyway, thanks for taking care of it. --MartyD 21:29, 20 July 2017 (EDT)

Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell

Quick question about this pub, I believe the title should not include the . after Mr. I've been correcting this in other pubs. Thanks TAWeiss 21:58, 20 July 2017 (EDT)

Is this also an SFBC edition? There is one already in the list. TAWeiss 22:01, 20 July 2017 (EDT)
The ISBN is different. Also I believe I ordered this from Quality Paperback Book Club. Not sure if the two used the same source or not.--Auric 17:07, 25 July 2017 (EDT)

External Identifiers

I have rejected your edit to The Gypsy Morph. External identifiers (OCLC, LCCN, etc.) should no longer go into the notes field, but now into the new External Identifiers field on the publication editing screen. Select the specific type from the pull down, and just enter the number. The software makes the link automatically. If you have more than one, use the "Add External ID" button. I have updated that pub appropriately. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 22:46, 27 July 2017 (EDT)

Now I'm confused. I was advised by Annie not to do this (see #External Identifiers and templates above) and instead use the OCLC, etc. templates. --Auric 10:06, 1 August 2017 (EDT)
It was for direct links that cannot become external identifiers (for example when you are comparing to another ASIN or another OCLC) or if you want to have the link in the note anyway. External identifiers are the preferred way when the number/ID belong to the book. If they do not belong to the book but need to be cited, use templates. You can also use templates if you want to have the link in an addition to the external identifier below. Which is why I said "in addition to the external identifiers". The ultimate goal is to have less direct links in the notes field and to move as many identifiers as we can into the External field. Annie 12:16, 1 August 2017 (EDT)


Image URL found for this pub. --Zapp 01:51, 5 August 2017 (EDT)


Hi. I accepted your Dracula submission, but I think it should be a CHAPBOOK instead of a NOVEL, with a NOVELLA record as content. I see it is only 96 pages, and all of the other Dracula instances are short fiction. Do you know how to fix that up? If you need help or prefer that I do it, let me know. Thanks. --MartyD 21:36, 27 August 2017 (EDT)

I tried, but got "Only SHORTFICTION titles can have Length values". When I did that, I got "When editing publications, the Regular Titles subsection of the Content section must contain one title whose type matches the publication type. For Magazine and Fanzine publications the matching title type should be EDITOR." I'm not sure what to do.--Auric 21:49, 27 August 2017 (EDT)
You should be able to do this:
  1. Edit the publication
  2. Change the publication type to CHAPBOOK
  3. Change the NOVEL content record's type to CHAPBOOK
  4. Add a SHORTFICTION content record that has the same information that's in the NOVEL -> CHAPBOOK content record.
Or you can switch #3 and #4 -- make the NOVEL entry a SHORTFICTION and add a CHAPBOOK content. When you make the publication type CHAPBOOK, the system will insist that a matching CHAPBOOK entry be present (CHAPBOOKs are like 1-work COLLECTION/ANTHOLOGY -- you need one title for the "container" and another title for the "content"). --MartyD 22:39, 27 August 2017 (EDT)
That worked. Thanks.--Auric 09:44, 28 August 2017 (EDT)

Dracula Variant

I have reject your varianting of this to this. A CHAPBOOK cannot be a variant of a NOVEL. What were you attempting to accomplish? -- JLaTondre (talk) 17:09, 30 August 2017 (EDT)

Classic Tales of Science Fiction & Fantasy

I have added a note to your verified pub indicating the translation used for A Journey to the Center of the Earth. Doug H 14:13, 21 September 2017 (EDT)

Haunted Houses


I approved your addition and the result is here. I had to do a small edit after that though - you had the word Houses starting with a small letter in the Publication title (the content titles were correct). Annie 19:04, 21 September 2017 (EDT)

Thanks for catching that.--Auric 19:33, 21 September 2017 (EDT)


In The Book of Imaginary Beings, the first forward has "Zooology" (three "o"s). Is this per the pub or a typo in the database? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 21:47, 24 October 2017 (EDT)

It's a typo. Thanks for catching that.--Auric 21:49, 24 October 2017 (EDT)

The Mystery Boxes

I have your addition of The Mystery Boxes on hold. Your title note states "Seven Graphic Stories". Are these truly graphic stories or illustrated stories? If you really meant graphic stories (as in graphical novel, manga, etc.) than they are not eligible for inclusion. We only make limited exception for very notable genre authors. -- JLaTondre (talk) 20:37, 31 October 2017 (EDT)

Okay, I've cancelled my submission.--Auric 07:30, 1 November 2017 (EDT)

Sepron the Sea Serpent ISBN

Hi. I accepted your Sepron the Sea Serpent clone. Would you check if there is an ISBN-13 on it, and not just an ISBN-10? If there is an ISBN-13, that should be used. With a publication date later than 2007, we would expect an ISBN-13 to be present. Thanks. --MartyD 06:59, 8 November 2017 (EST)

Die Sonde

Hi, I've put your submission on hold as there are some issues with it: amazon is not the right source for data ca. pre-2005, especially not prices and dates of publication: here, the price is obviously wrong (likely from a secondhand retailer). In addition, the submission has an 13-digit ISBN for a pre-2006 publication. Shall I reject the addition or are you willing and able to supply better data (for example from Deutsche Nationalbibliothek, a reliable source for all German publications)? Stonecreek 10:26, 13 November 2017 (EST)

Interesting. My submission (3617694) is not on hold as far as I can tell. I cancelled the earlier one with the ISBN13. --Auric 10:34, 13 November 2017 (EST)
Nevermind, I see it is now. I'll cancel. --Auric 10:35, 13 November 2017 (EST)
Thanks. Alas, amazon's data is in many cases corrupted. They only are quite strong when it comes to new publications. But as prices change, after a few months that also will be obsolete.
You may be interested that there is a German publication, though from a different publisher (hardcover). Stonecreek 10:57, 13 November 2017 (EST)

Omni, Winter 2017

re Omni, Winter 2017: Is the interview of Elizabeth Blackburn that of a genre author? Or is it this person? If it is not a genre author, it should be entered as an essay. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 17:16, 17 November 2017 (EST)

Thanks. I've submitted the change.--Auric 19:27, 17 November 2017 (EST)
I entered an explanatory note so there is not future confusion. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 20:14, 17 November 2017 (EST)

Passage to Moauv / In Vino Veritas / The Crier in Emptiness


I just put this on hold because I have a question. It looks like it contains 3 short stories - which would make it a collection and not an omnibus. Is the content incomplete? Or is it really just the 3 stories? If it is just the 3 stories, I will accept and change it to collection. Annie 11:39, 20 November 2017 (EST)

Collection is just fine. There were others, but these three (plus one more) are the ones that have known authors.--Auric 18:53, 21 November 2017 (EST)
I will accept and change it then. Annie 18:54, 21 November 2017 (EST)

Creatures from Beyond

Added a better cover image of Creatures from Beyond.SFJuggler 00:08, 2 December 2017 (EST)

Thanks for doing that.--Auric 17:10, 4 December 2017 (EST)

Unfinished Tales of Númenor and Middle-Earth

I think you have a typo in the title for Unfinished Tales of Númenor and Middle-Earth. It appears to be missing the accent in "Númenor" which appears on the title page. If you agree, I can update the title. TAWeiss 11:02, 9 December 2017 (EST)

Technically the title should just be "Unfinished Tales", but I wasn't sure what to put.--Auric 10:29, 16 December 2017 (EST)

The Wheel of Darkness

Found an image for this pub at Can You confirm? --Zapp 08:38, 10 December 2017 (EST)

Yes, but I didn't think Abebooks was on the allowed list.--Auric 10:27, 16 December 2017 (EST)

Andrew Lang's Fairy Tale Anthologies

As a verifier of one of these publications, please see this discussion. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 19:23, 25 January 2018 (EST)

Per the outcome of the referenced discussion, your Green Fairy Book has been converted to an anthology. I have not done anything with the contents yet as I need to know how the stories were credited. In the original 1892 edition, he utilized footnotes and the preface to credit them. Was that done the same way here (i.e. was it a reprint of the original including the footnotes)? Or were there credits for the individual stories? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 18:15, 2 February 2018 (EST)
Searching. I moved a lot of books around at Christmas. Didn't think I'd need to find this one.--Auric 13:31, 4 February 2018 (EST)

The Art of Discworld

I just wanted to let you know that I have added the individual titles for each of the illustrations in this publication of The Art of Discworld. I'm just letting you know in case you want to import those contents into your verified copy. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 21:29, 14 February 2018 (EST)

Thanks.--Auric 16:05, 19 February 2018 (EST)

Omni, January 1994

I've corrected the title of Paul Park's story from "Man on Crutches" to "A Man on Crutches" because of a PDF of the magazine. --Vasha 01:00, 2 March 2018 (EST)

Dave Dashaway and His Giant Airship or A Marvellous Trip Across the Atlantic

I have converted this to a chapbook (novella) as it is only 39k words long. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 20:16, 2 March 2018 (EST)

Are you sure? 206 pages would seem to be at least long enough for a novel. The Clock of Dreams is 190 pages in its first printing and still considered a novel. --Auric 11:14, 6 March 2018 (EST)
Yes, we base type on word count, not page count (see help). As this has been transcribed by Project Gutenberg, we have an accurate word count from copying their text into MS Word. Page length can vary dramatically based on page word density. Older juveniles tended to use larger print, less text per page, and more chapter breaks (resulting in more white space). By the way, have you been able to find the Green Fairy Book discussed above? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 17:04, 6 March 2018 (EST)
Yes, I have. There are two appendixes, but I hadn't added them as I wasn't sure to credit them to Alderson or Lang. The first is the 1892 preface and the second is Lang's 1892 retelling of the Three Little Pigs. There is also a section on the exact sources by Alderson.--Auric 11:37, 8 March 2018 (EST)

D'Étranges Photos

Hello, I've put your submission on hold as I don't understand it. You gave the language as "English" but the title seems to be in french, but its capitalization is wrong (it should be, if in french, D'étranges photos), the price is bizarrely formatted (4,95$ should be $4.95 or perhaps C$4.95), there is a Title series that will disappear when varianted, you indicate that there's an exclamation mark (on title page, I suppose) but do not put it in the title proper. I'm puzzled about what you're trying to de here. Hauck 13:17, 20 March 2018 (EDT)

Sorry. I forgot to change it to French. The price is as it is on the cover. The series order is different than the English Goosebumps series. The exclamation mark does not appear on the cover or the copyright page but does on the two internal pages and the series order list. Very confusing. --Auric 13:22, 20 March 2018 (EDT)
I've tried to salvage what I could, result is here. Hauck 13:38, 20 March 2018 (EDT)
Thanks for doing that.--Auric 13:39, 20 March 2018 (EDT)

Sorting order


When you put something in the number of pages that is not a number, it sorts before all the numbers. You can use the sorting characters to order them as needed - so instead of "end", you put "end|2" for example which means "show "end" as the number of page in the content section but order (and display it in the position it would have been if if it was page 2). I changed it here; feel free to edit it again if you prefer a different number or if I misunderstood your intent (apologies in this case) :) Annie 15:03, 12 April 2018 (EDT)

Thanks for letting me know about this. In this case, "end" stands for "endpapers". The map is displayed on both the front and back endpapers. I believe the convention is to display where an illustration first appears in a work. I'll change it to front so that others will hopefully be less confused. --Auric 09:10, 14 April 2018 (EDT)
Ah, I see. We have a few special designations for these: described here. In this case, it would be "fep" (front end paper) and I would also add a note in the publication note that it also appears at bep (or back end paper). Annie 15:57, 14 April 2018 (EDT)

Rymdens Erövrare


A few notes on your latest update:

  • The {{P|ID|Title}} template does not work in Notes (it is a wiki template). If you want to do the link, you need to use the <a href="link">text</a>
  • The same art is denoted by varianting - which is already done.
  • Can you do me a favor and when editing a publication with OCLC in the notes, move the OCLC to the external field while you are there. No worries if you forget but any help is appreciated. :)

I edited the publication, removed your new sentence and moved the OCLC. I also changed the translated by note to use its template (easier to migrate when we have a system in place). Let me know if you have any questions :) Annie 13:27, 16 April 2018 (EDT)

Thanks for telling me.--Auric 14:34, 17 April 2018 (EDT)

Otto and the Rex Stone titles

Hi, what is the source for the year of publication for Otto? Stonecreek 00:22, 18 April 2018 (EDT)

Everything I can find about the book ([7] [8]) says 1983.--Auric 09:10, 18 April 2018 (EDT)
Well, that seems to be for the first edition and the first printing. However, the no. line you supplied indicates a fourth printing. Stonecreek 10:00, 18 April 2018 (EDT)
I don't know what to say.--Auric 11:11, 18 April 2018 (EDT)
A higher printing was likely published in a later year. Is there any indication for that year or just a copyright statement for 1983? Stonecreek 13:40, 18 April 2018 (EDT)
Paperback in 1987.--Auric 15:17, 18 April 2018 (EDT)
Hmm, as this is a hc, it mut have been published after that, but still the exact year of publication seems unidentifiable. I've set the date to '0000-00-00' (unknown). Stonecreek 15:56, 18 April 2018 (EDT)
Thanks for doing that.--Auric 19:24, 18 April 2018 (EDT)

Re: the Dinosaur Cove titles. These seem to be CHAPBOOKs (a NOVEL with less than 80 pages usually is none, and I have seen some of the titles in this series), so I changed Tracking the Diplodocus / Tracking the Gigantic Beast accordingly. In addition, you verified a first printing, while the no. line you initially supplied was for a later one. I suggest you remove your verification and clone the publication instead. Stonecreek 03:37, 18 April 2018 (EDT)

Thanks for letting me know.--Auric 09:10, 18 April 2018 (EDT)

Goosebumps Haunted Boxed Set contents enumeration

Hi. The omnibus contents list (enumeration of the book #s collected) has been added to Goosebumps Haunted Boxed Set, affecting your verified pub. --MartyD 11:11, 6 May 2018 (EDT)

The Magical Ms. Plum ...

... very much seems to be rather a SHORTFICTION than a NOVEL. What do you think? Stonecreek 15:23, 8 May 2018 (EDT)

I've changed the title type & added the art pieces. Stonecreek 12:06, 11 May 2018 (EDT)

Vampire Breath

Cover artist Tim Jacobus found for this pub on his own website. --Zapp 13:31, 10 May 2018 (EDT)

Thanks. Correction sent.--Auric 17:32, 10 May 2018 (EDT)

The Judas Strain

FYI, I have changed the title type of Steve Prey's "The Judas Strain (maps)" from SHORTFICTION to INTERIORART in your verified The Judas Strain. Ahasuerus 22:51, 11 May 2018 (EDT)

Thanks for catching that.--Auric 15:20, 12 May 2018 (EDT)

Opinion about canonical name of Oscar Arias Sánchez?

Hi-- You verified an issue of Omni in which the politician Óscar Arias Sánchez is interviewed (his only appearance in this database, since he never wrote science fiction). I am currently wondering whether his canonical name ought to include the accent on the Ó, even though it wasn't printed that way in his one and only magazine appearance (I think-- maybe you could look at the magazine and make sure it isn't there?) Sorry to bother you about such an annoyingly trivial matter, but do you have an opinion on whether to make the canonical form of his name the "proper" spelling or the way it was in Omni? Thanks, --Vasha 14:40, 9 June 2018 (EDT)

Classic Tales of Science Fiction & Fantasy

Hi-- I'm not sure why you didn't import all of the contents to Classic Tales of Science Fiction & Fantasy. When you get a chance, please import "The Diamond Lens" and Looking Backward. I may do it myself if you aren't around for a while, but I'd rather have you check the original copy for the correct variant and page number. Thanks. --Vasha (cazadora de tildes) 03:17, 28 June 2018 (EDT)

Thanks for catching that.--Auric 12:49, 24 July 2018 (EDT)


Hi. You verified a 1986 copy of More Scary Stories to Tell in the Dark P558627 as publisher HarperTrophy. That should be publisher Harper Trophy.

The earlier "Harper Trophy" and later "HarperTrophy" imprints will no longer overlap in their database timespans after approval of 3 corrections that are now in the submission queue (late 1990s, unverified records), correction of this one, and one verified record of a 2008 publication (see User talk:Don Erikson#HarperTrophy). --Pwendt|talk 18:53, 27 July 2018 (EDT)

Correction submitted.--Auric 15:20, 28 July 2018 (EDT)

George Webb Dasent

On page 95 of your verified Stories About Giants, Witches and Dragons To Read Aloud, Dasent's middle name is spelled as "Webb" vs. the actual "Webbe". Would you mind double checking that this is not a database type before I create a pseudonym from George Webb Dasent to George Webbe Dasent? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 19:52, 29 July 2018 (EDT)

I'm in the midst of resorting my collection. It may take me some time to locate it again. Sorry.--Auric 07:49, 30 July 2018 (EDT) has a version on-line. It shows none of the stories as being credited. I have updated the record appropriately. When you get a chance, please double check against your version. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 10:01, 3 August 2018 (EDT)

The Isis Pedlar

A quick note re: your verified The Isis Pedlar. I have approved the submission, but I had to spell out "GST". In countries without a Goods and Services Tax (or a General Sales Tax), the abbreviation GST may not be clear. For example, in the US "GST" is the stock ticker symbol for the company "Gastar Exploration" :-) Ahasuerus 15:11, 1 August 2018 (EDT)

In Canada, where I live, GST also means Goods and Services Tax. I would think our American neighbours would understand this in context. Also. I checked the Wikipedia disambiguation page for GST. The various GSTs are near the top. Gastar Exploration appears nowhere on there. :-) --Auric 15:58, 1 August 2018 (EDT)
Don't forget that we are an international site - the US people may understand it but someone from Russia or Bulgaria will have a hard time figuring out what it may stand for (the context will tell them that it is some type of a tax but is it "general sales" one or "good and services"?). That's the reason when we also always spell out state names (even if anyone that grew up with English will recognize that AZ means Arizona, we always use Arizona in notes and birth places) Annie 16:06, 1 August 2018 (EDT)
I see. It's rare for me to see GST on a cover, since it's usually included in the price.--Auric 16:17, 1 August 2018 (EDT)
"When in doubt, spell it out" :-) Ahasuerus 16:28, 1 August 2018 (EDT)

The Coming Storm

I'm holding your edit to The Coming Storm. You are editing the record for the first printing, but the number line you are adding indicates it is the third printing. Each printing should have it's own record. In this case, we already have an entry for the third printing. It looks like you should move your verification to that version and edit it. Can you please double check? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 18:45, 1 August 2018 (EDT)

You're right. Thanks. I've cancelled my edits and submitted them in the new printing,--Auric 10:09, 2 August 2018 (EDT)

Miss Pickerell Goes to the Arctic

Hi. You verified a copy of the 1966 Scholastic edition P562475 as by Dora Pantell+Ellen MacGregor (unless someone else later revised the novel record). The cited WorldCat record does not credit Pantell, OCLC 1368901. Nor does the Library of Congress record of a 1967 McGraw Hill edition, LCCN 67-3286. I doubt that the book mentions Dora Pantell. If so, what does it say where?

According to Wikipedia, "After MacGregor's death in 1954, McGraw-Hill searched unsuccessfully for someone to continue the series until 1964, when they selected Dora Pantell, a social worker, and a writer of publicity and educational curricula." Probably the original novels were reissued in the 1960s, as the series was extended by Pantell (beginning with Miss Pickerell on the Moon (1965), per Wikipedia).

--Pwendt|talk 12:53, 4 August 2018 (EDT)

I'm not sure myself. I can't lay my hands on the book right now, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and apply to have it removed. Thanks.--Auric 20:21, 4 August 2018 (EDT)

Treks Not Taken

In Treks Not Taken, all of the titles in our records have an uncapitalized "not" in them. Is this deviation from standard practice important enough to keep (do you think it would falsify the collection authors' intentions to capitalize them)? If it's not important, please change them to capitals. --Vasha (cazadora de tildes) 22:16, 31 August 2018 (EDT)


Hello Auric. Added cover scan to your verified. Cheers ! Linguist 10:34, 14 September 2018 (EDT).

Thanks for doing this.--Auric 13:00, 15 September 2018 (EDT)

Niigaan Sinclair's legal name

Thanks for submitting this author's legal name! I have approved the submission and changed the order of the name components as per the following section of Help:Screen:AuthorData:

  • Legal Name ... Use the format "Lastname, Firstname Middlenames", with all names being given in full. The reason for this format are names like "Patrick Nielsen Hayden" where you can't readily tell whether the last name is "Hayden" or "Nielsen Hayden."

Ahasuerus 15:04, 15 September 2018 (EDT)

Thanks. I can't believe I forgot about that.--Auric 15:13, 16 September 2018 (EDT)

Ghost Flight

Hi, You verified our record of the Arrow Books edition as 1981, tp format, "Second edition by history", 621917. I hope you will check the book, and find that it is mass market pb format, or a later printing. (I suppose it is Second edition stated, 1st printing implied.) This is our only "tp" report of Arrow Books before 1986, and the only WorldCat record OCLC: 16537552 reports "1981, ©1980", 18 cm (top of pb range).

Other questions:

  • Does the book provide any information about its author William Katz, even his nationality?
  • Does it identify the first edition (even UK or US?), or confirm publication year 1980?

Now in the submission queue are possibly earlier Dell and Severn eds. of this novel (from WorldCat and Amazon sources), AuthorUpdate and novel TitleUpdate, both of the latter with related Notes.

My submitted NOVEL Title note anticipates that yours is not a 1981 tp printing. I plan to revise it when you reply. If that is quite a while, please ping me. --Pwendt|talk 17:20, 10 October 2018 (EDT)

(from the submitted NOVEL Title note): "Amazon UK/US product pages give publication dates 1980-05 (US, Dell pb), 1981-05-29 (UK, Severn pb), and 1981-11-16 (UK, Arrow pb); and those dates have been entered in the two new unverified publication records."
Feel free to enter the latter date, or simply November, as from Amazon; or not enter it. Anyway these dates don't have the reliability to identify 1st ed., 2nd ed., ... so (note to myself) I have a cautious note on the reported 1980 Dell to revise AddPub if your book identifies the 1st ed. --Pwendt|talk 17:28, 10 October 2018 (EDT)
I'll change it. Thanks for catching this.--Auric 11:03, 12 October 2018 (EDT)
Thanks for checking but :-)
Should my NOVEL title note stand as far as your book is concerned? It doesn't identify Dell as the 1st ed. or 1980 as the year (only as copyright year)? --Pwendt|talk 13:02, 12 October 2018 (EDT)

Hans Christian Andersen's Fairy Tales to Read Aloud

Your verified publication Hans Christian Andersen's Fairy Tales to Read Aloud was listed as a CHAPBOOK and I corrected that to COLLECTION. --Vasha (cazadora de tildes) 02:36, 26 October 2018 (EDT)

Thanks for catching that.--Auric 14:37, 26 October 2018 (EDT)

Haunted Houses

Query about your verified publication Haunted Houses. The summary on Amazon says it "discusses ten documented cases of ghosts and poltergeists from the past and present and suggests various theories to explain them." Is this accurate? If so, this is a nonfiction book about "true" paranormal phenomena, which is outside the scope of the database & should not be included ... --Vasha (cazadora de tildes) 04:23, 27 October 2018 (EDT)

The LC Catalog puts it under "Ghosts--Juvenile literature". Also nonfiction is subjective, and depends on whether or not you believe in ghosts.--Auric 23:48, 29 October 2018 (EDT)
"Whether or not you believe" is exactly the reason books marketed as nonfiction are excluded from this database I think ... Yeah, it's sometimes hard to know. There was one case (I can't recall the title unfortunately) where a book was first published as nonfiction and later as a novel and so is in the DB. I'm going to put Haunted Houses to a vote on the Community Portal ...--Vasha (cazadora de tildes) 12:38, 4 November 2018 (EST)
LC also puts a Dewey number of 133 on it - which is non-fiction. The subject suffix of "Juvenile literature" does not refer to fiction, there's an entry for biographies (Contemporary heroes and heroines) with a subject of "Biography--20th century--Juvenile literature". ../Doug H 08:39, 6 November 2018 (EST)


Several questions on Relic:

  • Per the notes, it says it is the first print of the January 1996 edition, but it is dated 0000-00-00. Which is correct?
  • The publication title is given as "Relic", but the container title is The Relic. What is on the title page?

Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 10:33, 4 November 2018 (EST)

The edition Relic already already exists, and is almost identical, except it's by Forge instead of Tor and has no mention of the excerpt, leading to my confusion, since it can't have been published on the same date.--Auric 17:15, 4 November 2018 (EST)
Forge is an imprint of Tor. The cover image for that version has Tor on the front cover. For Forge books, they typically have "A Forge book published by Tom Doherty Associates" (or something similar) on the copyright page. I don't recall them having a Tor marking on the cover, but I don't know for certain. As for the excerpt, not every user includes them (either in notes or contents). Unfortunately, Bluesman hasn't been active lately. What about the title? How is it listed on your copy's title page? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 12:41, 5 November 2018 (EST)

Night in Funland

Hi, do you have your copy of Night in Funland handy? Please check the author of the story on page 13; I think it should be "Peden" instead of the "Penden" that's in the database currently. --Vasha (cazadora de tildes) 10:18, 6 November 2018 (EST)

Haunted Houses (again)

Hi. You verified a 1969 Xerox paperback edition, P634331.

1. Does year 1969 appear anywhere other than as copyright date?

  • We say that publisher "American Education Publications "changed its name to Xerox Education Publications in 1972."
  • I see the 1969 copyright statement in one secondary image at, which also shows numberline "6 / 83 82 81 80 79".
  • You note "Numberline 1-6/ 76-72". I suspect that means 1st printing, 1972 --and the one quoted above means 6th printing, 1979. I will ask about that at Community Portal.

2. Library of Congress record LCCN 69-14269 reports the 1969 Morrow hardcover ed. (which I added to the database today, P694798) so it should only be linked in the Notes, not in the External IDs.

3. Reviews suggest NONFICTION contents, and that must be expected from author Larry Kettelkamp. One review of the 1st ed. notes that Kettelkamp covers various explanations in a last chapter. Library of Congress gives classification BF (psychology) and summary, "Discusses ten documented cases of ghosts and poltergeists from the past and present and suggests various theories to explain them."

--Pwendt|talk 15:20, 29 November 2018 (EST)

There are just too many issues. I'm just going to request deletion.--Auric 06:42, 6 December 2018 (EST)

Unfinished Tales of Numenor and Middle-Earth

Hi, I've imported content for your verified copy of Unfinished Tales of Numenor and Middle-Earth. Please check (e.g. page numbers).--Dirk P Broer 07:54, 13 December 2018 (EST)

Raga Six artist

I've credited the cover of Raga Six to Gene Szafran, with a note that the blurry signature is recognizable on the larger Brazilian edition, and that it's listed on a Szafran bibliography. MOHearn 09:24, 25 February 2019 (EST)

The Ghosts of Devil's Marsh

Hello, this most certainly is not a NOVEL, but the text is of SHORTFICTION length, so it's a CHAPBOOK publication. I'll approve of the submission on hold and change the title type(s). I've put the submission and will wait for a short while (if you're objecting to this). Thanks, Stonecreek 12:39, 26 March 2019 (EDT)

Thanks. I can't put chapbooks into a series for some reason.--Auric 14:29, 26 March 2019 (EDT)
Yes, that's because we decided for this some time ago. I'll put the SHORTFICTION into the series. Stonecreek 03:16, 27 March 2019 (EDT)

Currencies and states

Hi, those $-signs at the records you enter do not appear as by magic: we moderators have to put them there, as you forget them. Also, with the US citizens you enter, please let them be born in the USA (as Bruce Springsteen sings: 'Born in the USA'), as there are umpteen countries that are the 'United States' of things.--Dirk P Broer 16:18, 17 April 2019 (EDT)

Sorry, I guess I thought it was automatically added since I didn't get an error message. Maybe one should be added? I've also been adding information on another site that prefers United States to USA and forgot about the conventions here.--Auric 20:33, 17 April 2019 (EDT)


I have a question about the prices on front cover of Your PV pub here. As I can recognize on the cover image it differs from $2.25. It seems to be $1.50. Maybe the cover shows an earlier printing as your verified pub? Did You scan it by Yourself? This image seems to show $2.25. If the Canadian price is readable it should be mentioned in notes. --Zapp 14:22, 24 July 2019 (EDT)

I didn't notice that. The cover was uploaded by Chris J.--Auric 09:02, 31 July 2019 (EDT)
I'll ask him. --Zapp 15:47, 8 August 2019 (EDT)


Added cover scan, notes & external IDs to your verified Trollhunters.Jim 11:24, 10 August 2019 (EDT)

Thanks for doing that.--Auric 18:00, 13 August 2019 (EDT)

Billy and the Bubbleship


I approved Billy and the Bubbleship however all sources of the 1982 editions (OCLC, Google Books, other online sources) seem to be crediting it as "Billy & the Bubbleship". Where does the "and" come from? Thanks! Annie 14:44, 17 September 2019 (EDT)

Sorry about that. I saw it in the author bio in "Secret of the Lost Empire" as Billy and the Bubble Men. I was going to change it when I couldn't find it elsewhere, but my kitten walked on the enter key and submitted it. --Auric 10:38, 20 September 2019 (EDT)
Well, I hope the kitten does not get too upset for being used as a stand-in for the dog in the good old "the dog ate my homework" - unlike the dogs, kittens tend to use their claws when they are upset :) Thanks for updating it! The whole &/and is a nightmare sometimes... Annie 03:26, 21 September 2019 (EDT)
Don't I know it. The last time I had to pull her down, her claws had hooked the G key and it came off.--Auric 11:33, 3 October 2019 (EDT)

Tales of Deltora

Hi, I've imported content for your verified copy of Tales of Deltora from Australian edition, having the same number of pages and publisher.--Dirk P Broer 19:44, 29 September 2019 (EDT)

Thanks for doing this.--Auric 11:31, 3 October 2019 (EDT)

Treasure of Eden

It is not the cover that matters for our records, it is the title page. Can you make check who is credited on the title page for this one? Thanks! Annie 02:15, 14 October 2019 (EDT)

The cover and title page have one author, but the copyright page and authors page have two.--Auric 16:51, 18 October 2019 (EDT)
Which authors page - the one with the introductions and so on? If the title page has only one, we note the second in the notes and that's all. Annie 17:35, 18 October 2019 (EDT)
It's the very last page, with a little bit about the author(s) and a headshot.--Auric 04:10, 19 October 2019 (EDT)

Numberline 10-1

This means first printing. Are you sure we cannot find a date or at least a year for this? OCLC says 1997? Annie 12:30, 22 October 2019 (EDT)

I'm not sure what it would be. The copyright page says "First published in Great Britain in 1997 by Pavillion Books Limited", implying a later date.--Auric 12:37, 22 October 2019 (EDT)
Not necessarily a later year though - just a later publication (may be by a day , may be by a month - I've seen that when they were the same date even). But if you do not feel comfortable adding it as 1997 based on OCLC, I am fine with that - just wanted to check. Annie 12:43, 22 October 2019 (EDT)

Stories of Ghosts

Chapbooks are only for single stories/poems - think of them as special containers that allows us to add collections with 1 single story/poem. The moment you have a second piece of fiction, it becomes a collection or an anthology, regardless of size - even if it is 4 pages pamphlet for example. So I fixed this one and fixed the capitalization as per the policies a while I was editing anyway. Annie 12:48, 22 October 2019 (EDT)

Thanks for doing that.--Auric 12:49, 22 October 2019 (EDT)

Ebooks and number of pages


For non-paginated e-formats (Kindle, Nook and so on), we record the number of pages in the notes only. See the help page: For ebooks, do not enter in this field the number of pages. The estimated number given by the publisher or some sites may be specified in the "Notes" field. I updated this one. Thanks! Annie 21:01, 16 November 2019 (EST)

Demon Lover vs Demonlover

In your verified Hotter Blood, would you please double check the "Demon Lover" title (page 72)? Subsequent editions use "Demonlover" so wondering if this is a database typo or change between editions. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 09:10, 24 November 2019 (EST)

The Riddle-Master of Hed

Happy New Year 2020. You are one verifier of the stated Second Canadian Printing: February 1979 P558920. Is the closing essay "People and Places" credited to McKillip, or dated 1976, as the publication record now reports? The novel is by McKillip, first edition 1976.
Currently we have Riddle-Master essay(s) "People and Places" as credited to McKillip, 1976 T1969559, and as uncredited, 1979 T133164; both with earliest publication report 1979.
--Pwendt|talk 15:56, 31 December 2019 (EST)

Round the Moon

I've moved this publication to a new title to reflect it's translator - which I've identified as Edward Roth from my copy. ../Doug H 13:25, 29 February 2020 (EST)

Mrs. Piggle-Wiggle

Added content for the various titles, which were changed form 'NOVEL' to 'COLLECTION'.--Dirk P Broer 17:21, 9 March 2020 (EDT)

Zombie Surf Commandos from Mars!

At 97 pages and based on what I am seeing in Look Inside, this has less than 40K words (we will need 400+ words per page for it to be a novel). So downgraded to a chapbook. If you still have the book and a count shows that it is somehow a novel, we can always revert it. Thanks! Annie 18:20, 9 March 2020 (EDT)

From a Buick 8

From a Buick 8 I just added detailed notes... Susan O'Fearna 03:39, 30 June 2020 (EDT)

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