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::: When it's indeed a crossover it shouldn't be part of one of the series. So it seems better to reject or cancel the submission. [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 23:35, 5 January 2020 (EST)
::: When it's indeed a crossover it shouldn't be part of one of the series. So it seems better to reject or cancel the submission. [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 23:35, 5 January 2020 (EST)
::::I put in the series, stories where it appears alone.[[User:Hyju|Hyju]] 08:40, 6 January 2020 (EST)
::::I put in the series, stories where it appears alone.[[User:Hyju|Hyju]] 08:40, 6 January 2020 (EST)
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It seems we already have that one in the database: same ISBN, same price, just the format is different. I have put the submission on hold. Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] 03:13, 16 January 2020 (EST)

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Contents

Welcome!

Hello, Hyju, and welcome to the ISFDB Wiki! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

Note: Image uploading isn't entirely automated. You're uploading the files to the wiki which will then have to be linked to the database by editing the publication record.

Please be careful in editing publications that have been primary verified by other editors. See Help:How to verify data#Making changes to verified pubs. But if you have a copy of an unverified publication, verifying it can be quite helpful. See Help:How to verify data for detailed information.

I hope you enjoy editing here! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will insert your name and the date. If you need help, check out the community portal, or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome!.--Dirk P Broer 20:22, 29 March 2019 (EDT)

Dossouye

Hi, I have your submission currently on hold because you can't seem to make up your mind what the title is: a Novel (which only has one title, the Novel itself) or a Collection (multiple stories by one author -as opposed to an Anthology: multiple stories by different authors). A fix-up novel is still a novel, and the various parts can be mentioned on title record level -which I already did, as the title record already said "According to the author's Web site, this is a fix-up of previously published stories organized as a "picaresque novel"." So, what do you want?--Dirk P Broer 21:36, 29 March 2019 (EDT)

Nyumbani Tales

Hi, I've another submission from you on hold. In this case you want 'Nyumbani Tales' entered as an Anthology. Why? You do not give any content, and what I have unearthed so far does not look like an Anthology, but rather a Collection -for the difference see my previous message to you, here above.--Dirk P Broer 05:01, 30 March 2019 (EDT)

I will approve it and make it a Collection, as I found story titles -all by Charles R. Saunders, so definitely not an Anthology- and sequence of stories on Amazon.--Dirk P Broer 05:06, 30 March 2019 (EDT)

Series numbers

Hi, I have twice removed a series number in your submission, once for 'Dossouye' and once for 'Nyumbani Tales'. Both time it was a number high in the 30,000 range, which would make the entered titles part of the longest series in man's history by far. What do you try to enter, and why do you use the series # field for it?--Dirk P Broer 05:36, 30 March 2019 (EDT)

Imarao

Hi, and welcome. I accepted your submission of Imaro but made some changes to it I wanted you to be aware of. While Amazon lists Lulu as the publisher, Lulu states "Sword & Soul Media" as the publisher, so I changed the publisher credit to that. I saw in the Look Inside an ISBN, so I added that; I also noticed Lulu has a different ISBN that seems to be incorrect, so I added a note about that. We have built-in support for linking via Amazon's ASIN, so I removed the Amazon link you provided in the notes and added an External ID of type ASIN to the record, using the ASIN from the link you found. And we don't put anything in the "Pages" field for publications that are unpaginated -- which is true of most ebooks, unless they actually use page numbers on the individual "pages" -- but we do like to record the equivalent page count in the notes, so I did that. Please look it over and make sure I didn't lose anything. I added an extra comment about the artist credit that I happened to notice, too. If you have any questions, please ask! Thanks, and thank you for contributing. --MartyD 09:12, 30 March 2019 (EDT)

Dragon Magazine

Hi. You may reply to notes left on your talk page directly on the note (rather than on the talk page of the person who left you the note). Just edit the section and indent your comments another level by adding one or more colons (:) at the beginning: one colon per level of indentation. That keeps the whole thread in one place.

For The Savage Sword of Conan, I assume you are referring to the comic books? ISFDB policy is NOT to record comics, so those are not included here.

For recording an essay that appeared in an issue of The Dragon Magazine, you would need the issue. We have this series recording the print editions. If Saunders' essay appears in one of those, you can add it: Find the issue, use "Edit this Publication", and then in the Content section add a title for the essay. See, for example this issue, which has a Fritz Leiber essay recorded. Anything you do there will be reviewed by a moderator, so you don't need to worry about making mistakes -- try it, and someone will make sure it is correct and help you with anything that needs to be different.

I hope this helps. Ask if anything is unclear. You can also post how-to questions on the Help desk page. The community here is responsive and happy to assist. --MartyD 10:02, 30 March 2019 (EDT)

(You can and should respond here -- I am watching this).
If the issue of Dragon is not present, it needs to be added. I found an online source for issue #122. We only add magazines if they contain fiction that we want to document. In #122, I see "The Prince's Birthday" by Keith Minnion, which qualifies. Plus that Saunders essay. You may add it if you'd like to give it a try, or I can do it for you. To add a magazine issue, use "Add New Magazine" in the Add New Data section of the navigation bar when you are on the main website. You can follow the pattern from one of the other issues, such as this one. Detailed help is also available once you are in that editing screen. In the Contents section, you would add the Saunders essay on p. 22 and the Minnion story on p. 62. I did not see any other content that we would want to record, but if you read the issue and find more stories, include those as well. You can cite the URL for that PDF as the source. And we have permission from Galactic Central to link to images there, so you could use their cover image: http://www.philsp.com/data/images/d/dragon_198706_n122.jpg. --MartyD 12:22, 30 March 2019 (EDT)
Can you add it for me? Hyju 14:01, 30 March 2019 (EDT)
I wanted to put a Brazilian translation of The King in Yellow (O Rei de Amarelo), which has an introduction and comments by Carlos Orsi, but also do not know how to put foreign edition. Hyju 17:03, 30 March 2019 (EDT)
I have entered Dragon Magazine #122 with the essay. Feel free to edit.
We handle translations by using something called "variants". First you create a record for the translated publication, using specifying its language. Here, where it's a collection, you would need to add all of the contents with their translated titles as well -- they will get the same language as what you specify for the main publication. Once that submission is accepted, then go to each of the translated title records and use the "Make This Title a Variant" to link this translation to the record for the canonical, original-language record (or you can make it create a new record if one is not already recorded). For The King in Yellow, see this record and then look at some of the listed translations, an you will see what was done. If you have translation-specific content (such as Orsi's comments) that is original and is not translated, no variant is made. --MartyD 13:51, 31 March 2019 (EDT)
The introduction of Carlos Orsi is exclusive, it is not a translation, so it should not be placed, I will try to put the edition without this introduction, also wanted to create a Brazilian series called Space Opera, since I have seen that Editora Draco is registered and has some authors with entries.Hyju 17:13, 31 March 2019 (EDT)
Sorry if I misled you. You should include Orsi's introduction if you enter the Brazilian book. Unlike the contained stories, which are translations and need to be made variants of the originals, no variant is needed for the introduction. It would exist as a Portuguese-language title that is not a variant/translation of anything. --MartyD 20:56, 31 March 2019 (EDT)
Thanks for the inclusion of issue 122.Hyju 22:04, 31 March 2019 (EDT)
I found a short story from the series Imaro in Dragon # 86, I sent it there, I discovered another publication of this short story in The Chronicler of Cross Plains #2, Fall 2006. Hyju 19:39, 3 April 2019 (EDT)

Varianting titles

I am sorry to inform you that I had to reject your submissions for Portuguese tiles: the reason is that there are no publications associated with them, and they would have been deleted as they would have appeared as 'empty'. Another reason was the capitalization of the titles, for which the rule seems to be 'all lower case, except for names, proper denominations, and title beginnings' in Portuguese. (See for example this discussion).


I also had to upload the image for A Princess of Mars anew since the connection was to a site we have no allowance to link to (we have that allowance for amazon, for example; but you have to be sure they display the actual image for the publication in question; quite often they do display one for another printing that may be similar but not identical). Thanks, Stonecreek 02:51, 4 April 2019 (EDT)

I was trying to add Brazilian translations of these books, from the series Barsoom, only had one, Aleph published the other two and did not continue. The other is a translation of Tarzan of the Apes, but since I am new, I still do not know how to add those translations. Hyju 05:43, 4 April 2019 (EDT)
Well, you do it just the way you add any new thing: by adding a publication (because we are a publication-based db). After that has been approved there'll be some varianting to do in case it's a translation of an existing title (the system automatically generates the titles upon adding a publication). Stonecreek 08:54, 4 April 2019 (EDT)

Legal Name

From our wiki: "Legal Name - This field should contain the most recent legal name for the author. For example, James Tiptree, Jr. was a pseudonym of Alice Sheldon, who was born Alice Bradley. Alice Sheldon is the most recent legal name for this author. Use the format "Lastname, Firstname Middlenames", with all names being given in full. The reason for this format are names like "Patrick Nielsen Hayden" where you can't readily tell whether the last name is "Hayden" or "Nielsen Hayden." No prefixes should be used: "Capt.", "Mrs.", "Sir", and so on, are not recorded in this field. Suffixes that are not part of the legal name -- for example, "Sr.", educational and professional designations such as "Ph.D." or "M.D.", ranks and orders such as "Col.", "K.G." -- also should not be recorded. Certain suffixes such as "Jr.", "II", "III", etc., may or may not be part of the legal name. We assume they are not, unless we have reliable evidence to the contrary. If a suffix is part of the legal name, use the format "Lastname, Firstname Middlenames, Suffix"."--Dirk P Broer 08:56, 4 April 2019 (EDT)

Hi. One additional point about the Legal Name: Last name (surname) goes first, as Dirk says above. So "Vega, Hugo Marcel" instead of "Hugo Marcel Vega". I fixed that one, so just something to keep in mind for the future. Thanks. --MartyD 06:34, 5 April 2019 (EDT)

Addition of already existing titles in a publication ...

... is not the right way, so I rejected your submissions. Instead, it's possible to edit the titles of the existing contents and change as appropriate (here: change the publication date to the first publication).

I also recommend to spend some time with our extensive help pages (see the top of this page): it will give you an idea how we are organized and how to edit things. Stonecreek 14:45, 4 April 2019 (EDT)

Space Opera anthologies

Thanks for submitting those. However, right now I have only approved of the first one (and put the others on hold), since there is no information from where the information stems. You also might want to add information about the lengths of the shortfiction pieces (short story, novelette, or novella?) and on the respective authors / editors. Please also take note of the conventions on entering prices. Thanks, Stonecreek 04:19, 5 April 2019 (EDT)

I sent the moderator links for purchase on Amazon and archive of official website, the current version of the site does not contain the list of short stories, I do not know if they are short stories, novelas or novelettes.Hyju 07:06, 5 April 2019 (EDT)
If you had put the note in the note to the moderator: that is to be lost upon moderating the submission. Please enter any information on sources into the publication's note field: if the information is from amazon, something like this here is sufficient (but be sure that all of the data is from the source you state - you may have to state more than one source, for example if the cover artist is stated at another site). For primary verified publications a bit more of sourcing is wishful (see this example). And please continue with the author updates. Thanks, Stonecreek 12:53, 5 April 2019 (EDT)
I've approved of the next anthology: please update that and the first according to the standard described above, before you proceed with anything else. Thanks, Stonecreek 00:08, 6 April 2019 (EDT)
This is just to remind you of stating the source(s) of data for the respective publications (thanks for the prize). Stonecreek 05:55, 6 April 2019 (EDT)

CHAPBOOKs and ISBNs

For the Weinbaum CHAPBOOK you supplied a 13-digit ISBN for a pre-2005 publication and for that time period it has to be a 10-digit ISBN. Can you suplly that one, please? (Also, the issue of the invalid price format popped up again).

Most importantly a CHAPBOOK needs also a content title, see other examples at various author pages or the section at the help pages. Stonecreek 00:19, 6 April 2019 (EDT)

I'll check the information.Hyju 06:41, 6 April 2019 (EDT)

You have to be cautious ...

... in what you submit. I just rejected a comic album that has no part at ISFDB. There's again the rcommendation to read the help pages (here: the rules of acquisition).

Also, for the Christie Golden novel from that universe you submitted a pamphlet type of publication (you likely meant tp or pb)? Stonecreek 11:18, 6 April 2019 (EDT)

Pb, This is not a comic, it's the first novel in the series, I only have one source in French: Valérian arrive en roman !, An encyclopedia of the series has already been registered.Hyju 11:20, 6 April 2019 (EDT)
It's a movie novelization. Thanks for the format, I'll approve of the submission and change accordingly. Stonecreek 11:24, 6 April 2019 (EDT)
I will send the novel again with the sources indicating that it is prose and not comics.Hyju 11:27, 6 April 2019 (EDT)

Please also note that it's mandatory to state the translator (if it's a translated work) in the title note field. I have added her for this novel. Stonecreek 11:33, 6 April 2019 (EDT)

In the sources I consulted, it said it was a novel, so much that it is not in the list of comics albums of the series, but I can not prove without showing some page, just another link.Hyju 12:05, 6 April 2019 (EDT)
Yeah, well we have to be pretty sure that a title belongs here: as far as I understand the new link it's only stated that it adresses a juvenile audience, which says nothing about the major direction of the title type (fiction or comic). The same reason it is that lets me hesitate about 'Os Habitantes do Céu': It may well be that the French parent title was installed here by accident or - more likely - just because it was nominated for an award. Stonecreek 17:08, 6 April 2019 (EDT)
I can not log in, i found a series of comic books that are registered as if it were romance, is Crom the Barbarian by Gardner Fox and John Giunta, someone must have been wrong, this one I'm sure is not prose.Hyju 17:29, 6 April 2019 (EDT)
I managed, I'll try another source and post, the Franco-Belgian comic is different from the American, they are few pages per story arc, have more than 200 pages or is an omnimbus or is a novel, in the links that I found, says is a 268-page unpublished "roman", if I had an e-book, I could see what I really think is the same as Marvel's novels.Hyju 17:49, 6 April 2019 (EDT)
I found, in Francophone Wikipedia it says that the novel was republished in 2017 under the title "Paradizac, la ville cachée" and has e-book:Amazon kindle and Amazon paperback, in this second link, Marc Van Buggenhout said: "Réédition de Lininil a disparu, écrit par Pierre Christin et édité chez Mango en 2009. Le livre qui avait 269 pages, fait maintenant le double, mais c'est grâce aux interlignes !".Hyju 17:55, 6 April 2019 (EDT)
I'm having trouble logging in, I put the password, when I try to do something, it asks for the password again.
Apparently, I did, here the online version of the magazine with Crom stories, it seems, was a mixed of pulp magazine with comic book.Hyju 18:31, 6 April 2019 (EDT)
Well, we are afraid that one can't trust amazon in a number of things: publication dates of books that are more than ten years old is one of the things (the older the more untrustworthy), and type is another of those: one can see it in the monthly load of new titles that concentrates on magazines and anthologies: invariably they are catalogued as novels by amazon (and require a considerablke amount of repairment). After all amazon (and other vendors) don't set out to deliver correct bibliographic data, their goal is to sell.
And in the Wikipedia site on Christin the title is not listed under his novels. Stonecreek 04:03, 7 April 2019 (EDT)
Not always Wikipedia is updated, I'm also a Wikipedia editor, while I've put new Saunders books here, updated on Wikipedia, on Christin's website, "Lininil a disparu" is listed in "romans".Hyju 06:24, 7 April 2019 (EDT)
Ah, yes! So it should be eligible for us. Thanks for the research! Stonecreek 07:40, 7 April 2019 (EDT)
Even with 3 books, you can not consider creating a series equal to Star Wars and Marvel Universe?Hyju 11:39, 7 April 2019 (EDT)
Sure! But only one was a little below the threshold. ;-) Stonecreek 12:26, 7 April 2019 (EDT)
I tried to send the cover of Science Fiction, # 3 January 1933 and gave error, does not appear, can not put it in the entry.Hyju 12:25, 7 April 2019 (EDT)
Do you remeber the error report (what went wrong)? Stonecreek 12:28, 7 April 2019 (EDT)
I saw that it is only thumbnail, the file was sent, I sent it to the entry.Hyju 12:33, 7 April 2019 (EDT)

(unident) You had 1/13 instead of 5/53 in the URL address. Why that happened I can't tell - but now it's fixed. Stonecreek 13:02, 7 April 2019 (EDT)

How do I put a book where the author recounts one or more famous work?.Hyju 11:46, 10 April 2019 (EDT)
Hi! It's better to post questions like this at the help desk: on your private page they might easily go along unrecognized.
As to your question: it depends in major part on how the text is credited, to the recounter or to both, the recounter and the original author. If the second is given here might be a helpful example (note that the original text was a NOVEL, but the recounting is only of novella length). Stonecreek 11:56, 10 April 2019 (EDT)

A filha do Inca / República 3000

Hello, there are some issues with your recent bunch of submissions for this:

1) The initial title is indexed as a novel.

2) Do you still remember the speciality of CHAPBOOKs? (If not please go to the help pages and read the passage about them).

3) Please use the regularization for Portuguese titles explained to you above.

4) From the help: For 'standard' titles you should parenthetically append the container title (title of the novel, collection, anthology, etc) to the title of the essay, i.e. "<generic essay title> (<container title>)" in order to create a unique title. For example, Susan Wood's introduction to the Le Guin collection The Language of the Night was entered as Introduction (The Language of the Night). Standard title are for example "Introduction", "Editorial", "About the Author", "Foreword", or several other similar titles (also in other languages than English).

While waiting for your answers I've put your submissions on hold. Thanks, Stonecreek 14:00, 10 April 2019 (EDT)

I'm a bit confused, in fact, I do not know much English, I thought chaps were cheap publications, but I saw that it's not quite that, I just wanted to record include some publications and authors.Hyju 14:44, 10 April 2019 (EDT)
Well, the only help I can offer is best formulated within the help pages. The first problem here to answer is the one formulated under 1): What are these new publications? Stonecreek 15:49, 10 April 2019 (EDT)
I will first go to Terramarear volumes, but also have the "Edições de Ouro", has a version of Jules Verne's "From the Earth to the Moon" and "Around the Moon" by Paulo Mendes Campos, in a single volume, as if it were a one novel.Hyju 16:03, 10 April 2019 (EDT)

A Volta de Frankenstein

I have put the submission for that on hold:

1) At 128 pages most text turn out to be of novella length, do you have any exact word count at hand?

2) Who is Mary Shelby, by the way (a pseudonym for anoter author, a wrong spelling of Mary Shelley, or a typo o your side)?

3) Again, there's the issue of normalizing the title. Please take note of that, future submissions might get rejected because of not taking of that rule of ours. Stonecreek 03:02, 11 April 2019 (EDT)

I do not have the book, it's possible it's a novella, Mary Shelby is a pseudonym of Rubens Francisco Lucchetti in this story, he later scripted a series of Frankenstein comics, but signing with his own name, the first story is called "A Volta de Frankenstein".Hyju 05:52, 11 April 2019 (EDT)
I still do not quite understand how to put covers images, I uploaded them, but they were not approved, i know that they can not be too big, another thing, I'm suspicious that the cover of "O filho de Tarzan" is not by JU Campos, it looks a lot like the cover of the The Son of Tarzan (1917 edition) by J. Allen St. John.Hyju 07:23, 12 April 2019 (EDT)

Covers

I uploaded the covers but I do not know which links I should put in the books.Hyju 06:06, 16 April 2019 (EDT)

It looks like your recent covers have been added to pubs. Did you figure it out? Or did someone else do it and you still need help? -- JLaTondre (talk) 20:30, 16 April 2019 (EDT)
The ones I put in were the ones that the editors helped, when I try to put it on my own, it does not work.Hyju 20:32, 16 April 2019 (EDT)
After uploading a cover, go to the wiki cover page (example Image:PRNDVMSGZP1979.jpg) and then click on the image. That will take you to a page showing just the image (in the case of the example, [1]). Copy that URL, edit the publication, and paste that into the Image URL field. -- JLaTondre (talk) 21:08, 16 April 2019 (EDT)
Thanks.Hyju 10:34, 17 April 2019 (EDT)

Magazine

I got information about the Genesis Science Fiction magazine, but I do not know how to edit magazines, I have the data, but so far, I only put a single issue of Dragon magazine, I wanted to edit at least 10 editions of Genesis.Hyju 10:34, 17 April 2019 (EDT)

I learned to put magazines by looking at previous examples.Hyju 19:24, 18 April 2019 (EDT)
Hi. If you need help with something, or are unsure of how to do something, post a question on the Help Desk. Members of the community are very good about providing assistance and answering questions. --MartyD 09:36, 19 April 2019 (EDT)

Crediting cover artists

Hi. I have many of your submissions on hold that are adding cover artist credits to various publications. The problem with these submissions is that the source of the artist credit is not documented, and I am finding the credit does not come from the publication itself. It is fine to ascribe an artist credit solely based on the publication's having cover art identical to another publication's, where the artist credit has been established for that other publication, but we consider that a "secondary" source and so need to document in the publication notes the other source. For example, a note might say: "Cover artist not credited and no signature visible, but artwork is the same as for the 1970 Ace paperback, credited to Ima Artist".

I will work through your submissions and accept them and add the appropriate notes, but please include this information on future submissions. Thanks. --MartyD 10:06, 19 April 2019 (EDT)

I understood, usually when the cover is approved, I put edict and say that it is variant of some other, some recent I put sources, some are of the own original stories, but others are of covers of old magazines pulps or paperbacks. I use a lot Reverse image search of the Google Images and [https://www.tineye.com Tineye.Hyju 10:13, 19 April 2019 (EDT)
That is very good work, and the variants will document the original appearance but not whether the new publication explicitly credits the artist. If the notes do not say, the assumption is the credit DOES appear in the publication. That assumption is true for any data in the record, so when the information is not present in the publication, then a note is needed to identify the source. p.s. I am setting up the variants as I go along. --MartyD 10:46, 19 April 2019 (EDT)

"Mystery World" date change

Hi. I have your proposed date change for Mystery World on hold. You would give it a 1948 date, yet it appears in a 1941 magazine. Is the 1948 a mistake, or what are you trying to do? Thanks. --MartyD 11:53, 19 April 2019 (EDT)

I think it's just another story with the same name and even author, Mystery World present in the Megapack was a two page tale of the series Jon Jarl in the magazine Captain Marvel Magazine, would have to see if it is the same material, may be the same story rewritten for the series.Hyju 11:58, 19 April 2019 (EDT)
Ah. I see. What we would need to do if they are two different titles is first "unmerge" to make them into two separate titles, then fix up the newer one to have the information we want. Google Books has a scan of the Megapack and shows it going from p. 134 to p. 139. In the 1941 magazine, the story following it starts 10 pages later, so the lengths may be close. This is where primary verifiers can help. I left a note for Ron Kihara, who is the primary verifier for that issue of Thrilling Wonder Stories and asked him to check. I will keep your submission on hold until he answers. --MartyD 13:20, 19 April 2019 (EDT)
The pages [2] and [3].Hyju 15:41, 19 April 2019 (EDT)
Ron confirms that it is a completely different story. I will split them up and add notes about the differences. I will end up rejecting your date change, since the 1941 date is correct for the version that's in Thrilling Wonder Stories. We will put the other date on the new title. I will post a link here when I am done. --MartyD 17:01, 19 April 2019 (EDT)
Fixed up one is here. I put it in the series, which I am hoping is appropriate. Feel free to edit further. --MartyD 17:17, 19 April 2019 (EDT)
Thanks, little by little I add the other stories in the series, did not have a third volume of Megapack.Hyju 17:22, 19 April 2019 (EDT)
I realized when I went to reject the held submission that I used the February 1949 date from the Megapack's acknowledgements, but I see your submission wanted to assign November 1948. You may need to change the dates if that Megapack credit is incorrect. --MartyD 17:27, 19 April 2019 (EDT)
Yes, I had this doubt, but comics have dates on the cover, the Comic Book Plus (which had to withdraw because of a request from Warner), is based on the Grand Comic Database, the date is written on the cover, this question is a bit complicated, see this article on Wikipedia, cover image.Hyju 17:34, 19 April 2019 (EDT)
For magazines, the ISFDB uses the cover date, not the date of publication. So November 1948 would be correct, then, based on that cover. I will correct the dates and notes. Thanks. --MartyD 06:27, 20 April 2019 (EDT)

Cover credits redux

As MartyD stated above, when you are adding a cover credit that is not directly from the pub, you need to add a publication note giving the source. This needs to be done even if you are basing it on a prior publication. Varianting is not sufficient. Variants does not tell us the publication didn't credit the cover artist; only a note can do that. It would be appreciated if you started adding the notes. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 21:13, 19 April 2019 (EDT)

Show me an example, I do not understand the need to put notes in classic covers that are constantly republished, but are not credited.Hyju 21:24, 19 April 2019 (EDT)
Here is an example. Data in a publication record is supposed to be from the publication. If data is entered that is not from the publication (but rather from a secondary source), than there needs to be a note stating what data is from what source. We weren't so good with this early on, but we have tightened the rules. The community consensus is that we designate which data is from secondary sources vs. the publication itself. This avoids confusion in the long run. This is especially true of pubs that have already been verified. -- JLaTondre (talk) 21:40, 19 April 2019 (EDT)
It has covers that I'm sure are from the pulps or paperbacks, but have tried to identify and I could not.Hyju 22:03, 19 April 2019 (EDT)
Pardon? I'm not sure what you are referencing. The example I linked to is one you found the original source of the cover. -- JLaTondre (talk) 22:12, 19 April 2019 (EDT)
I mentioned some covers in the Megapack series, I tried to identify them, but I could not.Hyju 22:18, 19 April 2019 (EDT)

Merge vs Variant

When two records for the same work have identical titles and identical author credits, they should be merged instead of varianted. Variants are for the same work with a different title and/or different author credit. I rejected some recent variant submissions which I merged instead. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 21:20, 19 April 2019 (EDT)

I have to see how to merge works, I did not understand when something is an excerpt, I put it as variant?Hyju 21:26, 19 April 2019 (EDT)
I'm talking about the stories in this pub. Per Amazon's description, these are not excerpts. It is a collection of her previously published stories.
If something is a excerpt, it should neither be merged or varianted. An excerpt is not the same work as the original, but a significant modification. It should remain a separate record with appropriate notes.
-- JLaTondre (talk) 21:45, 19 April 2019 (EDT)

Magazines with the same name

I discovered that King Kong had a two-part story in Mystery Magazine, but I went to see in Galactic Central and says that it is a magazine different from that registered in ISFDB and that before had another name.Hyju 06:37, 21 April 2019 (EDT)

Big Big Book

We credit per the publication. While the external reference site may lump them together, these two books were published under this name so should be credited this way. -- JLaTondre (talk) 08:58, 21 April 2019 (EDT)

Os Extraordinários

Hi, I get the feeling that this is a comic book (banda desenhada? história em quadrinhos?). Am I right?--Dirk P Broer 17:18, 24 April 2019 (EDT)

No, it's an anthology of versions of the stories by Lucchetti.Hyju 17:24, 24 April 2019 (EDT)
I know I can not publish comic books, Lucchetti started in pulp magazines and is the author of several paperbacks.Hyju 17:50, 24 April 2019 (EDT)
Why so many authors? Is there an editor? If not, can't Lucchetti be that?--Dirk P Broer 04:54, 25 April 2019 (EDT)
They are recreations of the stories, I did as in others where the original author is credited as coauthor, the editor is Dario Chaves, I think it better to submit again.Hyju 05:52, 25 April 2019 (EDT)

Data sources and A Prince of Mars

Hi. I accepted A Prince of Mars and added the price and link to the cover, both from Amazon. I also gave Amazon as the source of the data in the pub notes. Please remember to document the source of data if you don't have the book. Thanks. --MartyD 08:03, 1 May 2019 (EDT)

I did the same with the submissions for the other four books in that series. --MartyD 08:12, 1 May 2019 (EDT)
Thanks.Hyju 08:26, 1 May 2019 (EDT)

Swords of Aerides

I rejected your submission for this pub. At the least, you misspelled the series name. Amazon names the series for this pub as "Darius of Avinon" and "Prince of Avinon" (obvious inconsistency). But I suggest you use one or the other of the Amazon suggestions. Bob 19:17, 1 May 2019 (EDT)

I think it is better not to put a series, since there is only one book, if another one comes out, it may be that this is clarified.Hyju 19:40, 1 May 2019 (EDT)

Prometheus II

Instead of submitting a moderator note stating the variant, you can make the variant yourself. To do that:

  1. Go to the cover art record for the original publication, Amazing Stories, February 1948
  2. Copy the URL
  3. Go to the cover art record for the newer publication, Prometheus II
  4. Click the "Make This Title a Variant" under "Editing tools" in the left menu
  5. In Option 1 section at the top of the screen
  • Paste the URL from step 2 into the "Parent #" box
  • Click the "Link to Existing Parent" button

I have left this one for you to try. -- JLaTondre (talk) 09:20, 4 May 2019 (EDT)

Thanks, I was in doubt, there is a cover that is credited to Corbis, but I discovered the author, can I change? The Mammoth Book of Golden Age Science Fiction is a same cover of Science Stories, February 1954.Hyju 16:34, 4 May 2019 (EDT)
We credit per the pub so if the pub makes an error, we still enter the pub credit and then variant to the correct name. This is the same case so I left it Corbis, but varianted to the original artwok and added a title note with an explanation. -- JLaTondre (talk) 09:03, 5 May 2019 (EDT)
I have another doubt, I found one more adaptation of King Kong, but the magazine has a name similar to another publication, how do I?
I'm not sure what you are asking. If you provide links, I'll take a look. -- JLaTondre (talk) 09:03, 5 May 2019 (EDT)

From Galactic Central. Galactic Central credits Edgar Wallace, but Wikipedia and other sources say that the ghost writer of this adaptation was Walter F. Ripperger.Hyju 12:40, 5 May 2019 (EDT)

It would be credited to Edgar Wallace and then varianted to Walter F. Ripperger. Notes regarding the ghost writing should be in both the magazine publication notes and the title notes. That will avoid any confusion down the road. -- JLaTondre (talk) 13:05, 5 May 2019 (EDT)
When I added this adaptation, I discovered that it was another magazine, the Mystery Magazine that is registered only has the years 1926 and 1927, this story would have been in 1933, so I went to see the other issues in the Galatic Central and says that this Mystery Magazine began to be published in 1929 and was called The Illustrated Detective Magazine until 1932.Hyju 13:11, 5 May 2019 (EDT)
The magazine Adventure Gaming got the issues out of order, can you fix it?Hyju 21:08, 5 May 2019 (EDT)

Cover Art Editions

I'm holding several edits that would add cover art credits to pubs. What is the source for the cover credit? When data is not from the publication itself, the secondary source needs to be listed in the pub notes. This is especially true of verified pubs. Let me know and I'll accept and update the notes. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 09:02, 25 December 2019 (EST)

I look for other editions, when the art looks like no other, I use OCR and I find in the searchers, the cover of Quest for Fire is from the movie poster, La Guerra del Fuoco joins two Frazetta arts, Isaac Asimov Presents the Best Science Fiction of the 19th Century I found in OCR, I will credit them later. Hyju 10:13, 25 December 2019 (EST)

Writers of the Future, Volume 30 cover artist credit

Hi. What is the source of your proposed cover artist credit for L. Ron Hubbard Presents Writers of the Future, Volume 30? I don't see that credit on Amazon, which is the only source given for the data. The notes need to be adjusted to reflect where it comes from. Thanks. --MartyD 07:05, 31 December 2019 (EST)

Generally, the covers of this collection are repeated in different formats, I searched the ISBN and found in Google Books, the ISBNs inside the book and there was the Kindle version. Googl Books.Hyju 07:10, 31 December 2019 (EST)
Sorry about the delay. That is fine, but then you should record that information in the publication's notes. For example "Cover art credit from Kindle edition". Then if someone finds some contradictory information (for example, perhaps they find a source showing it has a different cover), they will be able to decide whether to adjust the record or make another one for a different edition. I will add that note. --MartyD 13:45, 4 January 2020 (EST)

The War of the Worlds

The cover of the Belgian edition of 1906 is not Alvim Correa's art, they use an interior art as if it were the cover, the cover is here: La Guerre des Mondes.Hyju 09:04, 31 December 2019 (EST)

So much so that this cover is uses the same illustration of the other covers.Hyju 09:07, 31 December 2019 (EST)

Doctor Omega and the Shadowmen

Hi. I have your submission on hold to add this anthology to the Shadowmen series. Doesn't the series 'Doctor Omega' also take a role? Or is it independent from it and the titling is just coincidence? Thanks, Stonecreek 04:55, 5 January 2020 (EST)

I had this doubt, but I saw that all the books are linked as Tales of Shadowmen and the tales in their respective series, since you can not put two series, some crossovers are complicated as King Kong vs tarzan and Doc Savage: Skull Island.Hyju 05:47, 5 January 2020 (EST)
When it's indeed a crossover it shouldn't be part of one of the series. So it seems better to reject or cancel the submission. Stonecreek 23:35, 5 January 2020 (EST)
I put in the series, stories where it appears alone.Hyju 08:40, 6 January 2020 (EST)

Queen of the Martian Catacombs

It seems we already have that one in the database: same ISBN, same price, just the format is different. I have put the submission on hold. Christian Stonecreek 03:13, 16 January 2020 (EST)

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