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: [ Same here] - the "Thrilling Wonder Stories, April 1937" [ this one] is the only publication on [ this title]. You can change the series if it is wrong but there is nothing to split... [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 02:11, 7 September 2019 (EDT)
: [ Same here] - the "Thrilling Wonder Stories, April 1937" [ this one] is the only publication on [ this title]. You can change the series if it is wrong but there is nothing to split... [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 02:11, 7 September 2019 (EDT)
::Somebody tinkered with the ''Adventure House facsimile reprints'' and ''Pulp Tales Press Facsimile Reprints'' of the '''''Thrilling Wonder Facsimile Reprints''''' and combined them into one series (''Thrilling Wonder Stories (reprints)''). I was trying to keep things more organized. I created one series and carried on from an unknown editor with the other. I just want to put everything else in order. It's a bit tricky when dealing with magazines. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 02:37, 7 September 2019 (EDT)
::Somebody tinkered with the ''Adventure House facsimile reprints'' and ''Pulp Tales Press Facsimile Reprints'' of the '''''Thrilling Wonder Facsimile Reprints''''' and combined them into one series (''Thrilling Wonder Stories (reprints)''). I was trying to keep things more organized. I created one series and carried on from an unknown editor with the other. I just want to put everything else in order. It's a bit tricky when dealing with magazines. [[User:MLB|MLB]] 02:37, 7 September 2019 (EDT)
::: So what I thought initially except in the wrong record. There are two problems:
::: Pulp ones and the Adventure ones are mixed in [ this series] - so go through them and update the Pulp ones to get them out.
::: [ this one] and [ this one] were mixed with their counterparts so I pulled them out.
::: I will let you fix the series inside of the series and on these two. Maybe Pub Series would have worked better here but let's untangle and we will see after that. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]]

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Captain Future, Winter 1941

A couple comments on Captain Future, Winter 1941:

  • The pub notes have an incomplete sent sentence "Cover states that the title of this magazine is" on second line.
  • I rejected your variant of "Letter (Captain Future, Winter 1941): Unpleasantries" and instead merged it with the existing variant (based on the prior reprint) as they are identical.
  • I have your variant of "Letter (Captain Future, Winter 1941): Another Swerdlow Edorser" on hold. It is likely the prior reprint would have used the same title so I will ask Rtrace to double check the misspelling in that version.

Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 17:16, 1 January 2017 (UTC)

Rtrace confirmed the misspelling was only in the database and merged the two records. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 14:01, 2 January 2017 (UTC)

ASF Jan-Feb 2017

Hello, I've made some slight modifications to this issue. Hauck 11:03, 4 January 2017 (UTC)


hi i added one unnumbered page to the count for because the about the author is on a lefthand page,therefore must be 159. gzuckier 04:03, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

Okay, thanx. MLB 07:17, 7 January 2017 (UTC)


I have corrected the capitalization of words such as "an", "from", "with", "the" in titles of some of Ian Watson's works. This affects your verified publication Solaris Rising: The New Solaris Book of Science Fiction. In future, do you want to be notified of such capitalization regularizations? --Vasha 08:28, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

Oh no, go right ahead, anything you can do to make me look smarter than I really am. MLB 01:26, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

One more malicious little mystery

Hi! I think I have found one more item worth adding to this: Caveat Emptor by Kay Nolte Smith. It features one distinct 'M' who is none other than Mephisto(pheles), as I read it. It should be printed five stories before the two Nolan items that are listed last. Would you like to add it? Stonecreek 15:10, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

And then some: I think we consider Barry N. Malzberg as above threshold, so, wouldn't it be better to include all of his stories in this anthology? Stonecreek 20:16, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

In order:
•It will take me a couple of days or so to get a hold of the book so if you have a copy of this anthology nearby please feel free to add the Smith story.
•Yes, I feel he is above the threshold, but, when I have attempted to add above-the-threshold author's stories, including one from Malzberg, from such places as Alfred Hitchcock's and Ellery Queen's they have been rejected. So, while I might verify or re-verify somebody else's listings, I try not to list them anymore. If you want to add the Malzberg story, go ahead, I have no complaints, especially since these non-genre stories tend to end up in these author's collections. MLB 22:30, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for the information. It seems you'd have to wait awhile anyway, as there seem to be more items of speculative contents (I'm going slowly through the book, reading 2-3 stories each evening): yesterday I read the one by Elaine Slater which is also science fiction about overpopulation. Alas, I only have a german edition, so I could only place the stories inside your verified copy without noting the beginning page. Maybe that'd be okay and you'll add the pages later? Stonecreek 05:05, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
Sure. I only skimmed the anthology which is why I put in my notes that there might be other speculative fictions here. Put the stories in as you find them. I'll put the numbers in later. MLB 06:25, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
I have added some items and will do so when I come across more. I'll post a final message when I have read the book in its entirety. Stonecreek 07:13, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
Ready, steady, go! Finally, I got through the book and included the lot. It seems, though, that The Witches in the Closet by Anne Chamberlain has no speculative content. It's more a story on a mental breakdown: the protagonist's wife believes that there are witches in a closet / wardrobe, but there's no evidence for that. What's your opinion? Stonecreek 05:05, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
Would it be okay to remove (and then delete) said story? Stonecreek 05:07, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
As I said, I only skimmed the anthology but you actually read it, so, if you feel the story should be deleted and that there is no speculative content then go right ahead and delete it. MLB 09:05, 16 February 2017 (UTC)
Thanks, Mark! I'll wait for some other answers on the topic until the weekend and then hopefully go ahead. Christian Stonecreek 09:21, 16 February 2017 (UTC)

Asimov's Science Fiction, September 2015

I guess Getty Images as a platform should not be given as cover artist at this pub. The creative part is from CSA Images, see here. Unfortunately there is no name of a person to find. Only Pop Ink - CSA Images. --Zapp 14:46, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

I'll go with your expertise in this. MLB 09:46, 21 January 2017 (UTC)

Thomas or Timons Esaias in Analog Science Fiction and Fact, May 2016"?

Would you check your verified Analog Science Fiction and Fact, May 2016 and see if the author of "Postulate 2" might be Timons Esaias instead of Thomas Esaias? Thanks. --MartyD 02:23, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

Evidently I must of typed this up using my feet instead of my hands. But it's been corrected. MLB 11:59, 23 January 2017 (UTC)

Closing Lists

When closing HTML lists, you need to use "</u>". The last couple of your pub edits have had "<u>" at the end which starts a new list and causes the pub to not display correctly. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 00:13, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

Sorry, I deserve a good slap for that mistake. MLB 00:15, 31 January 2017 (UTC)


I have added story lengths to the Oct-Nov 2016 issue of Asimov's. --Vasha 23:58, 2 February 2017 (UTC)

Filled in missing info for Analog issues

Hi, a few story lengths got overlooked in 2016 issues of Analog (October, November) & I added them from online sources. --Vasha 03:05, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

I can't understand how I got that wrong, but thanks for the help. MLB 06:44, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

Insomniacs chapbooks

Hi, it seems you transformed the contender NOVELs into SHORTFICTIONs, when it'd be correct to transform them to CHAPBOOKs and add the respecrive SHORTFICTIONs. Now the contender CHAPBOOKs have to be added to the individual publications. Christian Stonecreek 14:55, 20 February 2017 (UTC)

Chapbooks without Contents Titles

Hello, there are five CHAPBOOKS (Insomniacs series) without contents titles that you PVed and that show up on our cleanup report, please correct them (note that they also had a length and a series info which is not allowed, I've corrected that). Hauck 13:00, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

Well, let's hope I got it right this time. Then I gotta add the series data. MLB 00:02, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
All done.MLB 14:53, 25 February 2017 (UTC)


If we know the "Stragella" art in your fascimile reprint is by Amos Sewell (how do we know that?), then should we change the credit on this to be the same, either on the same basis or by virtue of the fact that we've been able to identify it for the reprint? --MartyD 14:42, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

I identified the artwork by looking up the story on this site, and, even though it is reproduced badly, the piece of artwork has Sewall's scrawl on it. I didn't change the original because I don't have that issue of Weird Terror Tales, just the facsimile. I can change it and notify the primary verifiers if you wish. MLB 14:52, 25 February 2017 (UTC)

Cemetery Dance, #74/75, 2016

Hi, there's a typo in one of the titles on Cemetery Dance, #74/75, 2016 which you have verified. The Joe Hill novella Snapshot, 1998 should be Snapshot, 1988 and of course the artwork titles also. Thanks. --Jorssi|talk 22:20, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

And another typo in this title. Should be 'disintegration'. --Jorssi|talk 22:46, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

Yet another typo in this title missing an 'f' in Mindfulness. --Jorssi|talk 23:12, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

Okay: Will change. MLB 23:36, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

David Scheinkofer vs David Schleinkofer

Hi, I've changed David Scheinkofer for your verified copy of The Fog Maiden into David Schleinkofer, as I encountered the cover art here.--Dirk P Broer 13:39, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

"The Snatchers" author in Analog SFF March-April 2017

Might the author's name on "The Snatchers" in Analog SFF March-April 2017 be "McDermott" (m) instead of "McDernott" (n)? --MartyD 17:54, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

Yes, noticed that after entering data. Will fix. MLB 18:27, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
One more in that issue, that I missed on the original submission: Should Future-Proofing the Near Future be ESSAY instead of SHORTFICTION? I noticed it on the Editorial series insertion. --MartyD 19:08, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
Yes, getting it fixed. MLB 19:12, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

Twilight Zone nonfiction

... shouldn't be considered as a part of the universe (as it should bear comments on it). I accidentally accepted a submission to make the editorials into a subseries, but I'm inclined to reverse this. I have put the other submissions on hold while waiting for an answer. Thanks, Christian Stonecreek 21:11, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

Well, there's a non-fiction series for books on Star Trek, Star Wars, Space: 1999, etc. I'm sure that there are more Twilight Zone non-fiction books on this site, but I was just trying to get started to get all of these Twilight Zone series and books organized under one umbrella series title for easy reference. If you wish to reject the non-fiction book, then go ahead. MLB 21:24, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
By-the-way, the scripts are fiction, not non-fiction, which should only leave the non-fiction books open to question. MLB 21:33, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
However I can take the editorials out of the Twilight Zone universe though. MLB 22:55, 5 March 2017 (UTC)

Robert Bprslo

When I entered the latest Asimov's did I mean to type Robert Borski, why yes I did, and I have promptly dislocated my knee kicking myself for this. I will fix this when my submission is accepted. MLB 05:31, 7 March 2017 (UTC)

Fifth Voyage - poem?

I have a submission on hold that wants to change the item on p. 136 of this publication to a POEM. Can you please have a look? Christian Stonecreek 16:29, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

No. Shock Totem runs a department in which every author discusses the creation of the work that was published in that issue. Sometimes they are a paragraph, and sometime they are almost a page in length. McHutchins had told me to put (afterword) after each one, and I guess I forgot this time. This item is already listed as a poem in this listing on page 45. I'll put (afterword) after all of the non-fiction in this column and that should clear that up. MLB 21:35, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
Done, I hope that this helps. MLB 21:46, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
Thank you, I'll reject the submission. Christian Stonecreek 07:51, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

"Conan the Buccaneer", by de Camp & Carter

I accepted your publication update to this publication, but restored the publication date. Although it's annoying that whoever put that in didn't explain where they got it from, there's no reason to believe it's wrong. There are many other possible sources for a date: a later printing that listed a bunch of the earlier printings; Locus commenting on a new printing that was just sent them; an advertisement; a review; etc. Chavey 08:38, 16 March 2017 (UTC)

Additions to verified "Frost Burned"

I have made some additions to your verified copy of Frost Burned. I added to Notes - more information about what is on copyright page, Canada price, notes about cover, link to archived Amazon site. I imported the Map and Author's Note from the verified hardcover edition, for consistency. OK? BungalowBarbara 22:30, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

Sure, thanx. MLB 23:37, 19 March 2017 (UTC)

Changes to John G. Hemry/Jack Campbell pubs

I am changing John G. Hemry's canonical name to Jack Campbell; this is affecting some of your verified publications. --Vasha 17:49, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

Dark Voices 5 (and 2) content addition

Hi. In the Dark Voices 5 update that I have on hold, your proposed addition is ESSAY. Should that be INTERIORART? For that submission and the similar submission for #2 (where Linguist is the primary verifier), why do you have "(title page)" added to the titles? There doesn't seem to be any other interiorart, much less other pieces by Carson, such that disambiguation is necessary. --MartyD 10:38, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

Yes, they are artwork. Did late at night, sorry. (title page) as added to one of the books before me, and I kept that designation when I added the artwork. If you want, I can delete that if accepted. MLB 20:50, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
Parenthetical additions are used for disambiguation, not for explanation. There is one exception: maps, where we add "(map)". Anyway, since there is no need to disambiguate, I think you should not add the "(title page)". You could record in the notes that the only interior artwork is on the title page if you wanted to. --MartyD 21:18, 9 April 2017 (UTC)

Blaze of Glory

Hi, for your verified copy of Blaze of Glory I've changed cover artist Xanaxa to Kanaxa, after reading the copyright page at Amazon.--Dirk P Broer 19:06, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

"Mrs. Midnight"

In your verified publication Ghosts: Recent Hauntings, "Mrs. Midnight" is recorded as a short story. However, the author's bibliography indicates it as a novelette, and indeed, I have counted the words as it appears in The Best Horror of the Year Vol. 2, and it is 10,000 words long. I've changed the record; please let me know if you disagree. --Vasha 18:43, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

No, I'm fine with it. MLB 00:13, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

Content page numbers in Lover Beware

Hi. I have on hold your proposed changes to Lover Beware that would add two to each of the page numbers Barbara recorded. Her numbers match what I see in the Amazon Look Inside -- although the text begins on the page numbers you've given, there's a title page for each two pages before that (the page numbers she used). The help's ...on which the content begins. is rather vague, but given the example of using the page number of a preceding illustration as the starting page number, I'd think using the title page's page number would be appropriate. Is there something somewhere that leads you to think differently? Thanks. --MartyD 12:29, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

Well, I've been running on the assumption that the story starts where the content (story, illustration) starts, and not the title page. I don't consider, and I may be wrong, that title pages are art. The formula is: title page, blank page, story. Anyway, after double checking my copy, I found mine to be a later printing, and so anything I have to add to Barbara's entry is moot. I'll delete my entry, and create a new one. Thanks for making me check my listing twice. MLB 23:42, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
Let's hope I got it right this time. MLB 00:13, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
I have quite a number of these anthologies in my collection, but until this is cleared up I can't verify or add any. I don't think title pages are art, especially when followed by one or more blank pages. MLB 01:19, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

Vampire Stories

What I changed in this publication was the date of the story "The Last Sin" to make it jibe with the date of the anthology. --Vasha 22:40, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

Or Suggested by Books?

Please see this edit I have on hold. -- JLaTondre (talk) 15:12, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

Also this one. -- JLaTondre (talk) 15:17, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

No idea. When I follow the link I get this: "Moderator privileges are required for this option". So I don't know what you're referencing. MLB 00:00, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
Sorry, thought you'd be able to see it. The first one is changing 'Or Suggested by Books?': Some Jamesian Touches in the Fiction of Ruth Rendell to 'Or Suggested by Books?' Some Jamesian Touches in the Fiction of Ruth Rendell" (removing hyphen). I assume based on the assumption was a subtitle & therefore didn't the hyphen due to the question mark. However, want to make sure it wasn't in the original pub. The second one was the "Night in the Forest" one posted below. -- JLaTondre (talk) 21:15, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
Gads, sir, that one is going to take a little detective work to find. It's been years since I did that one. I was still a snot-nosed punk of only fifty-three. So much has happened since then, so give me a little while to find it. MLB 07:08, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
No problem. I have rejected the edit for now. Once you have a chance to check, you can update if needed. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 21:48, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

"Night in the Forest"

Hi, is there a typo in this record from one of your verified publications? --Vasha 16:00, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

Yeah. Corrected. MLB 00:01, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

The Amber Witch Artwork

In your Five Victorian Ghost Novels, the The Amber Witch artwork was dated to 1843. However, the artist (Philip Burne-Jones) was born in 1861. While the omnibus may state the artwork is from the first printing, they probably mean the first printing of the Lady Duff Gordon translation (since that is the translation they used) which was 1894 and not the 1844 version. I have adjusted the dates as such. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 15:35, 30 April 2017 (UTC)

Brain Child by John Saul

I added notes to Brain Child by John Saul Susan O'Fearna 03:42, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

Analog Science Fiction and Fact, May-June 2017

Linked both dangling reviews in the issue (waiting for approval), changed one EDITOR to essay (In Times to Come (Analog, May-June 2017)) and added the magazine under its yearly title record. Annie 17:35, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. After entering Analog, and while awaiting approval my computer got sick and I had to take the poor dear in to the computer doctor to get well. Which is why I disappeared in the middle of entering the data for the latest issue of Analog. So sorry to have caused you any problems. MLB 02:17, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
Not at all :) Figured you were offline for a bit so just went ahead and fixed it :) Annie 04:05, 6 May 2017 (UTC)


Hi, Do you have your copy of Snow White, Blood Red handy enough that you can check the length of "Snow-Drop"? You have it down as a novelette in that publication, but the official bibliography says it is 6500 words. --Vasha 14:13, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

It went into storage, however, my listing was a guesstiment, so if you feel if it is a short story, please go ahead and change it. MLB 23:00, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

Comet, May and July 1941 facsimile reprints

Hello, I wanted to check the author attribution on the editorials in these two reprints (pages 68 and 123 respectively). I'm verifying the original magazine issues and in my copies, both of these are signed only "The Editor." Are the reprints this way as well? Thanks, Ldb001 01:59, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

Yes. I think "The Editor" is more accurate, but I have been corrected numerous times, so I may have self-corrected. Please feel free to change my entries if you so wish. MLB 03:29, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for the quick reply! I'll change these to be "The Editor" in both the original and the reprint. I've been instructed in the past to adhere to the author name as stated, so I try to do so. I've been attributing the artists in this magazine somewhat differently too (strictly by the credits given on the contents page) but so far nobody has complained about the inconsistency between magazine and reprint. I'm writing about this particular case because another moderator raised the issue about this case. Thanks again, Ldb001 03:55, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
One more question (the last, I hope) about these 5 reprint issues. The feature "The Spacean" has been entered in the reprints as fiction for three issues, but as essay for the other two. I've entered these as fiction for the original magazines, but in order to merge them we should agree on the "type" field for them. Is calling all of these fiction OK with you? Thanks, Ldb001 15:35, 19 May 2017 (UTC)
Yes. I've always considered these "non-fact" articles fiction, but there seems no hard and fast rule about this. I should have changed the other two long ago. Fun stuff ain't they? MLB 07:14, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
They're almost unreadable for me :-) But I haven't put a lot of effort into them. I think they must contain nods toward things that go completely over my head. They feel like something written in code, and if I could break the code they would make perfect sense. I'll go ahead and change the other two to fiction and merge with the magazine entries. Thanks, Ldb001 14:25, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

Analog Science Fiction and Fact, May-June 2017

Hello, I've added the missing Gord Sellar's text and uploaded cover to your PVed issue.Hauck 17:04, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. MLB 07:15, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

Ancient Voices

I have your edit to Ancient Voices on hold. Did you mean to correct the author's name to Glynn Owen Barrass instead of "Glynn Owen Burrass"? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 00:06, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

No cut and pasting here. I had to write everything down on paper from Amazon and then type it up. I need to write clearer! Will correct. MLB 00:43, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

Flag in Exile

Replaced cover art of Flag in Exile with a scan of my copy (some of the Amazon covers have a white blob on the right hand side). --AndyjMo 20:15, 21 May 2017 (UTC)

Echoes of Honor

Replaced Amazon cover art of Echoes of Honor with a scan of my copy. --AndyjMo 15:17, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Ashes of Victory

Replaced the Amazon Cover art of Ashes of Victory with a scan of my copy. Is there any reason why some of the contents are listed twice? --AndyjMo 15:24, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Planet Stories, Summer 1940 (Adventure House reprint)

Hi, me again: I'm starting to verify the early issues of Planet Stories, and I notice you've verified the facsimile reprints. So I may be checking with you about some odd and ends as I work through these. In this issue I have two letters with different titles from those you list in the reprint. Ackerman's is titled "Ackerman up at Bat!" rather than "Ackerman Up!"; and Wright's second letter is "Right Is Wright" rather than "Right Is Wrong." Could you let me know if the reprint indeed titles them differently? If they are the same, I will change both with your permission. Thanks, Ldb001 04:50, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Go ahead, most, but not all, of my pulp facsimiles just went into storage, so feel free to change these until I can get to mine. And now you've discovered my secret ninja superpower, making typos where none existed before. MLB 09:17, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
Thanks, I'll make those changes. That superpower is shared by many including me. After I make edits, I wait for the moderator corrections to rain down.
One author which was unreadable in the reprint but is clear in the original: "Win Edwards" is the artist responsible for "Sphere of the Never-Dead." I've added that as well. Finally, Kummer's first name in this publication is spelled "Frederick" with a "k" at the end, so I'll change this and variant to the proper spelling. Ldb001 13:41, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Jack London's non-genre stories

In some of your verified editions, you have stories by Jack London that are actually non-genre. I hope it's OK if I mark them as such.

1. In Quickie Thrillers: 25 Mini-Mysteries, "The Leopard Man's Story." It's a story about a circus lion-tamer killed by his lion.

2. In Tellers of Tales and The Golden Argosy, "To Build a Fire." Famous story about a greenhorn's Alaskan journey to a frozen end.

I am going through a book of 46 Jack London stories and finding that a number of the ones we have in the DB actually are nongenre. London didn't write all that many speculative stories, but his suspenseful adventure stories are included in anthologies of "tales of terror". --Vasha 22:00, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Why some stories are listed on this site I don't know (and I'm looking at you Sherlock Holmes), but I usually list them if in an anthology, or verify them, if they have been previously listed on this site. You can list them as [non-genre] or delete them. Whichever feels best. MLB 22:40, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
I am going to mark them non-genre because otherwise they'll probably get re-added sometime. --Vasha 22:44, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Planet Stories, Fall 1940 (Adventure House reprint)

Requesting to change a couple of small things in the reprint ( (1) regularize the capitalization in a couple of reader letter titles, (2) on the assumption that it is in the reprint, add the letter by Charles Hidley. Thanks, Ldb001 01:11, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Oh yeah, go ahead, always feel free to regularize my capitalizations. I've listed Hidley's letters several times. I think all letters should be listed, but that's just me. MLB 01:20, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
Thanks, I hate to bother you with things this trivial, but I don't like to presume anything with verified pubs.
I can see both arguments for inclusion of letters. Cluttering of the db vs. completeness. One advantage of including all would be that the policy would be unambiguous. But I personally don't have an interest in unknowns who may only have written a letter or two.
For the next issue (Winter 1940), another couple of small things: (1) another letter to add by Hidley, and (2) two artist credits for "Don Lynch" which are listed in the reprint record as "D. L." and "Lynch." Because we have no artist credits, I'd like to change these to the canonical name (unless the reprint adds additional credits beyond those in the magazine). Thanks again, Ldb001 03:18, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
No bother. As these facsimile's were not reprinted in order, I probably entered these before I knew who Don Lynch was. Sadly, his career in sf didn't much outlast the pulps themselves. In the "too much information" department here's an example of Don Lynch's non-pulp artwork. MLB 04:03, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Changes to Maupassant pubs

I am once again working on sorting out translations of "The Horla", so if you are notified of changes to any publications that involve Guy de Maupassant, that is what it is in regard to. I believe I haven't made any alterations that go beyond the information you provided the last time I queried you about these publications, but if you notice I've made a mistake, please do let me know. The only major thing I did was to separate out the translations revised by Dora Knowlton Ranous from the general uncredited translations. Otherwise, I just changed notes and dates. --Vasha 08:38, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

I guess this is where I ask if the translations have caused any significant changes in the story over the years, and which translator has done the best job. I've read various translations of this story over my life, but have not done any significant studying of the text, being more of a casual reader. Who's done the best, or worst, jobs at these translations? MLB 14:50, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
Well, I haven't read the more recent ones (those first paragraphs are gleaned from previews and such). But of the older ones, numbers 1-8 in the list, all of which I've looked into except Laurie... Believe it or not, I think the anonymous 1903 is quite decent. (Ranous's "improvement" makes the text less wordy in places, but not really to its benefit. Maybe she didn't consult the French.)
I wish that some anthology editors had done a comparison. For example, the Everyman's Pocket Library book of ghost stories is beautifully designed and printed, acid free paper and the whole nine yards... but for whatever eccentric reason the editor chose to use the execrable Jamison/Boyd translation. --Vasha 16:51, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
Okay, now I know what look-out for. Fred Pohl did an experiment. One of his stories was translated (into Chinese, I think) and he had the story re-translated into English and ended up with a completely different story. So, I guess that translations are often undependable, but for most of us, that's all we can get to read. Or watch if it's on film, but that's a completely different matter. MLB 20:16, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
Yeah, there have been translations where you wonder if the translator was reading the same book. I suppose you heard about the minor stir that the rediscovered Icelandic Dracula caused last year. None of these differences in "The Horla" are nearly that extreme. I should add that I think the Brian Rhys translation in the older Everyman editions, 1930s to 1970s, is also good. --Vasha 14:42, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

Planet Stories, Spring, Summer, Fall 1941 (Adventure House reprints)

More requests for minor changes on the next three issues of the facsimile reprints. Most are tedious little nits but one or two might be interesting. Let me know if there are issues with any. I'll make the changes if you approve.

Spring 1941 ( 1)Add letters by Hidley and Lynn Bridges. 2)Author's name for "Satellite of Fear" is given as "Frederick Arnold Kummer, Jr." (first name ending in "k"). Should be entered thus and varianted to canonical name.

Summer 1941 ( 1)Kummer's story is credited to "Frederick A. Kummer, Jr." on both story and contents page. 2)"Mutiny Aboard the 'Terra'" art is signed "Leon Rosenthal" (very small, perhaps unreadable in the reprint) so need to add artist's name to record to replace "uncredited." 3)The letter response by Reiss is just credited to "The Editor" so should be listed thus and variant to Reiss. 4) Lesser's letter should have "Boulders" rather than "Boulder" in the title. 5) Ed Smalle. He has three illustrations in Planet that are documented so far, and in all three cases his signature is clearly "Ed Smalle" rather than "Smalley." I think the editor's statement that his name was Ed Smalley was just a boo-boo. A Google of Ed Smalle gets a couple of hits for a comic book artist from that period who must be the same person. I'd like to change all occurrences of his name to "Ed Smalle." (added: I found en editorial reference to "Smalle" in the Fall 1940 issue, so I think this confirms things).

Fall 1941 ( 1) The Raiders of Saturn's Rings: artwork title in the reprint record omits "The" and has "Ring" for "Rings." Both should be corrected. 2) Regularize case in letters. 3) Reiss's responses should be as "The Editor" and varianted. 4) Add Hidley letter.

Winter 1941-42 ( 1) Change all artist names to those credited (last name only). 2) "Zurk" should be by Richard O. Lewis, not Robert O. Lewis.

Final one: Spring 1940 ( 1)Letter-writer Olon F. Wiggins is spelled thus and so needs no variant. 2) Case correction ("the") in last letter title.

Thanks, Ldb001 02:04, 25 May 2017 (UTC)

Let me answer some of these requests for changes.
1) When I first started editing on this site I was told not to use "The Editor" unless the editor was unknown, otherwise use the editor's name. Ditto for initials. Usually "The Editor" was used by editors before me. Some facsimile's were here before I came to this site (in 2012), and I just added to them or imported the basic contents from the various magazines.
Be reassured, I've enforced exactly this rule (and used it myself for british magazines) as I don't see the value of interposing another level of data by using "The Editor" then varianting to the correct person. But It's just one of many moderator's advice, that's the ISFDB. Hauck 07:52, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
2) There is a very mundane reason as to why Hidley's letters started getting added to this site. When somebody started reprinting the Captain Future novels they also reprinted the columns from the self-titled magazine. Suddenly, and he was active into the sixties, his letters became eligible for listing here when before they weren't as they were now being reprinted in these anthologies. So, there are probably other letters out there waiting to be listed in already verified magazines. When you come across them, just feel free to add them.
3) I was also told when I first started editing here that unless the artist is credited, on the title page, full is to be used in the listing, i.e., Leo Morey for Morey. Which is what I try to do. See below.
4) As I'm handicapped and can't just pop over to my storage shed and look these older facsimile's up, I will take your word for most of these changes and correct what I can. MLB 06:57, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
Yes, I think we all have gotten conflicting advice many times from different moderators. What I try to do is read the written policy and follow it. Sadly there is still much unwritten! For instance we're instructed to record authors exactly as they are credited, and I've also explicitly been told by a moderator to credit to "The Editor" when written. But like so many subjects each of us has received different instructions. I was reading the other day several discussions on whether to credit a letters column to "various" or to "The Editor." I saw a lot of discussion but as far as I could see it never resulted in a new policy. One of these discussions arose because some time ago I read a policy to use "N/A" for this purpose. Although it was the only written policy on the topic, I was told not to use it! So it goes.
It sounds like we are in consonance about author credits: use the credited form, or if uncredited use the canonical form of the name.
Generally I would not care much about these things: each editor to some degree chooses a preferred path. Policy should prevent that, but that's the reality. But I wanted the original and facsimile to agree as much as possible rather than unmerging one set of titles from the other and having the publications go in two different directions. In fact I was told by a moderator not to take that path. Thus making changes in the original required some coordination with the verifier of the facsimile. I apprecicate your addressing these questions and spologize for having to take your time with what are trivial mechanical details. All the best, Ldb001 14:38, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
Apart from moderators having deliberate differing agendas (which is quite rare), the main problem is of coordination. With about twenty active moderators (but with very widely different levels of effective moderating -from nearly none to a few hundreds per day-) and an unknown number of contributors, this proves to be a near impossible task. As not every case can be thought about, debated and have a course of action decided, we (the moderators) usually have to do our best and try to keep a certain constancy. Depending on what is moderated (e.g. self-moderating only), this constancy is more or less wide-ranging. You're also victim of the extreme weakness of our decision-making process which is not formalized and so left many issues unresolved because of quite equally split opinions. Add to this the fact that some moderators (alas including me sometimes) on diverse grounds flatly refuse to acknowledge some written rules (based on their ambiguity or fuzziness or the fact that the exact reverse of the rules is also written elsewhere) and you'll have the main reasons for such differences of interpretation. But the main point is that we all try to do our best to offer the more accurate data as is possible. Hauck 15:03, 28 May 2017 (UTC)

A batch of nongenre stories - if you disagree please comment

Currently there are numerous non-genre horror stories that are in the database because it's natural to just enter a book of horror or "tales of terror" without figuring out which stories are supernatural. I don't intend to systematically hunt for them, but when I spot one, I like to mark it nongenre. (In the case of classic stories, marking is better than removing it from the database because it'll just get re-added with some new anthology.) At the moment, I've spotted the following stories that I think need such a change, and I'm consulting people who have them in their verified pubs.

Firstly, there's Great Tales of Terror and the Supernatural (verified copies: (1), (2), (3), (4), (5), (6), (7)), which contains "A Terribly Strange Bed," "The Three Strangers," "The Most Dangerous Game," "Leiningen Versus the Ants," "A Rose for Emily," "Taboo," and undoubtedly other non-supernatural ones that I'm not noticing at the moment. Here are verified publications for those and some other stories:

Are there any of those stories you think ARE genre? Vasha 15:33, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

My goodness, you have been busy. Like other editors, I haven't had the time to read everything, try as I might. So to comment on some of these:
1) I read The Cone by H. G. Wells as a child, but I can remember nothing about it. If you say it is not speculative, then I'll take your word for it. Being a Wells story, may the tag [non-genre] would be appropriate.
2) The Lodger is an influential suspense story. Influential on both the horror and suspense genres, but I have not read it, yet. Someday, someday. Again, perhaps the [non-genre] tag, with a note explaining it's influence on both genres.
3) Ditto for Two Bottles of Relish, a story that I never liked to begin with, although that's neither here nor there.
4) Ditto again for The Most Dangerous Game. The basis for a hundred speculative stories, graphic stories, and movies. See "2" and "3".
5) A Rose for Emily, a non-supernatural gothic horror story? Perfect for Alfred Hitchcock, but I'm on the fence about this one.
6) Leiningen Versus the Ants is also borderline, and the basis for hundreds of other man-against-nature stories, including the whole nature-goes-into-revolt, or nature-goes-berserk genres. I'm for keeping this one, with maybe a note stating how influential it is.
I haven't read the rest, and I'll take your word for them. Perhaps you should take your work, substantial as it is, and start a discussion about these stories. All were here before I even started editing for this site. There are exceptions for "non-supernatural" horror stories. MLB 19:12, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
I agree that these very famous suspense/adventure/gothic/etc. stories have influenced a thousand speculative stories, but they're not genre themselves -- it's not as if SFF writers never read anything but SFF! What sort of note would you suggest adding? (I'm on the fence about "Leiningen", too.)
As for "exceptions for non-supernatural horror stories", the Project Scope Policy doesn't mention any, only "supernatural horror, ghost stories, gothic fiction with supernatural elements..." and it states that "[p]urely psychological horror works that feature no supernatural or fantastical elements" are excluded. --Vasha 19:33, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
Examples of non-supernatural horror fiction on this site would be Psycho by Robert Bloch, The Hound of the Baskervilles by Arthur Conan Doyle, An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge by Ambrose Bierce, and The Tell Tale Heart by Edgar Allan Poe. Bloch, Doyle, and Poe’s stories are crime stories, and Bierce’s is a war story. All four authors do a lot of genre blending in their fiction. And, quite frankly, I’m not even going to touch poetry. I also don’t count dreams, fugue states, and hallucinations as fantasy elements, but others do, and I’m not gonna argue with them. This is why so much literary fiction is listed here.
I’ve yet to read too many horror anthologies that don’t have at least one borderline, or non-supernatural horror story. A lotta crime fictions, modern and pulp, have borderline elements. This is why all of those shudder pulps are listed on this site. I’ve had more than my fair share of stories rejected for being too borderline.
Again, I think a lot of this is wasted on me, as other editors and moderators should be chiming in with their opinions . Although I do agree with you on several stories. As an editor I don’t make policy, and the stories that you point out are long standing contributions to this site. I think stories may have to be taken on a story-by-story basis. I suggest that you lift your research and paste it on one of the moderator boards. Just ask if these stories should be listed as non-genre with a note stating their influence on the genre. State your case, others do it, why not you? This might be a reason as to why the Sherlock Holmes stories are listed here. MLB 23:00, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
Yeah, this should be a general discussion rather than divided into separate pages, I guess. --Vasha 23:18, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
Well, these questions come up periodically, and should be asked. They keep everybody on their toes. MLB 23:36, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
See Community Portal; the list of suggested stories is already longer there. --Vasha 00:45, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

Added contents from another edition

I am working on the Cleanup Report that complains about collections and anthologies that have no contents. Right now I'm importing contents for such works when we have another printing of the same book (by the same publisher) that includes the contents. A book verified by you for which I've done this is: Foundation and Empire. I haven't included page numbers, so this book is still missing that detail. If you have the time, I encourage you to verify this against your own copy. Chavey 20:44, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

Serial Vigilantes of Paperback Fiction

Image URL found for this pub. --Zapp 08:46, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. MLB 18:02, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

Horror Stories

Hi Mark. I've got some questions on who to enter as editor of the 1930s pulp Horror Stories. You've verified the Oct-Nov 1937 issue and you've got the editor as Rogers Terrill, citing info from The citation you mentioned comes from here, I guess, and shows editors as being 1935 – 1939: Rogers Terrill; 1939: Loring Dorst (Dowst); 1940 – 1941: Steve Farrell (Farrelly). This is from the (about) link. Another link, the (Pub Info) link takes you to here, which shows the editor as being Steve Farrelly - Editor: Horror Stories, Jan 1935 – Apr 1941. Obviously a conflict. All other existing Horror Stories entries in ISFDB show Farrelly as editor, rightly or wrongly. I contacted Bill Contento with this and he replied "The entry on Horror Stories in SCIENCE FICTION, FANTASY, AND WEIRD FICTION MAGAZINES by Marshall Tymn and Mike Ashley lists Rogers Terrill as overall editor, no mention of Dorst or Farrelly. Bob Jones's essay "Popular's Weird Menace Pulps" in THE WEIRD MENACE pamphlet from OPAR Press 1972, says Rogers Terrell became Editorial Director of some 14 Popular pulps. Steve Farrelly is mentioned as an editor of Horror Stories, and that he died in 1940. Loring Dowst is listed as serving on Horror Stories in 1938. Unfortunately there are no exact dates. I have photocopies of the table of contents for Horror Stories but there's no mention of editors there. I don't know where the dates on Galactic Central came from, and Phil who runs the site just left for a month's vacation. This has likely raised more questions than answers!". So...we're left with questions. Do you think any of the existing editor info on Horror Stories should be changed, possibly with addition of notes? (Yours is the only prime verified issue). I was going to enter some of the missing issues and wanted to get some other input on it before going ahead. Also, I'll ask Ron to join the conversation since he's secondarily verified some of these issues. Thanks, Doug / Vornoff 18:05, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

Both FictionMags and Miller/Contento list only Steve Farrelly as the editor. Tuck states "Editor: Steve Farrelly with Rogers Terrill as Editorial Director" I'd defer to what is printed in the magazine, though I suspect the editor is not credited. Tuck's characterization may explain why Tymn/Ashley lists Terrill. We generally stick with the main editor, but Terrill could certainly be mentioned in the notes. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 23:44, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
My copy is one of those I picked up second-hand at a flea market, as I wasn't born until twenty-four years later, and my Dad, who claimed to have read some of these pulps was only five. So, this horribly mangled, non-inherited, second-hand edition only contains the body of the pulp; no contents or indicia page. Even the cover image comes from a deck of shudder pulp non-sports trading cards. I'm pretty sure that Terrill wouldn't have read the contents of all fourteen pulps, so I can change the editor to Steve Farrelly if you feel that this is the proper thing to do. MLB 02:54, 8 June 2017 (UTC)
Thanks to both for responding. Looks like the real answers are lost in time. I'm going to go with what seems to be the preponderence of evidence with Farrelly as editor with a note about Terrill. Maybe Phil of Galactic will have some insight for us when he returns from vacation but the odds are against it. Mark, if you changed yours it would at least clean up the EDITOR records a bit, but do as you see fit. Doug / Vornoff 05:23, 8 June 2017 (UTC)

Monstrosity ebook

Hi. Your Monstrosity submission that I have on hold would change the existing entry for the paperback into an ebook and lose the paperback's information. Did you perhaps mean to clone instead and accidentally edited in place? --MartyD 11:20, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, I meant to clone. I'll do it over. Thanks for catching that. MLB 20:10, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

Cloning Backwards in time

Hello, you submitted the cloning of the 2016 publication of this title with a 2014 date. In such cases, don't forget to adjust the 2016 dates in the record, lest it leads to a lot of cleaning up afterward. It's usually better to change all the dates in the existing publication in one go before submitting the cloning. Thanks. Hauck 02:18, 21 June 2017 (EDT)

Another polite reminder to be careful when your new clone is a previous publication than the one you are cloning from - while it is a single publication, it is easy to fix the dates but once the titles are in multiple publications, it needs to be done one by one - the last two clonings you had were like that. If you would like to submit the cloning without waiting for the re-dating to go through, add a moderator note in the clone request to tell the moderators to make sure the date change you also submitted had gone through :) Thanks! Annie 02:41, 30 June 2017 (EDT)

Horror Stories / Costanza masthead art

Hi Mark. Another question on Horror Stories, which relates to your verified issue, Oct-Nov 1937, and specifically the artwork by Costanza on p. 120 for the "Chamber of Horrors" column. This appears to be masthead art and I'll bet it's the same as the art I entered on the March and May 1940 issues. I went ahead and varianted the latter to the earlier but Hervé has brought up some questions on my talk page about entering masthead art. If you want to check the art against your copy, it can be found here. Any input you have would be appreciated. Thanks, Doug / Vornoff 10:55, 21 June 2017 (EDT)


I may be telling you something you already know... but according to discussions here and here, CreateSpace isn't a publisher, but rather a printing and production service (a subsidiary of Amazon, which is probably why they insist on naming it in the "publisher" space on their pages). So we don't list it as a publisher here, instead leaving a blank space (currently -- even though the help says to put the author name; I believe that the help will be updated, but -- as with every other discussion! -- the discussion is still ongoing.) Therefore, I'd like to change all of your verified publications that list CreateSpace -- Astounding Stories of Super-Science: Vol. 1 No. 2 February, 1930, and maybe others I haven't found yet. Thanks! --Vasha 18:06, 23 June 2017 (EDT)

If the copyright page that I can view actually says published by (listed any author) then I list the author as publisher. CreateSpace is has always been a default setting for me, but I'm more than willing to list anything else. Why not "uncredited"? MLB 01:47, 24 June 2017 (EDT)

Galaxy's Edge #1

Hi. I submitted an edit to re-order the first page of the Book Review on your verified above to put the column name first. Also I noticed on my copy that the title of that column is called "Book Reviews", not "Books". I don't know if that's the same in your copy. Doug / Vornoff 20:18, 24 June 2017 (EDT)



I have your addition of Extracted on hold because it seems like we already have it: over here. Am I missing something that makes it different? Annie 02:48, 25 June 2017 (EDT)

Nope, looks like I wasted both of our times. MLB 03:21, 25 June 2017 (EDT)
Now I see what went wrong. The author is listed on this site as RR Haywood instead as R. R. Haywood as per ISFDB protocol. Permission to change his name on this site. MLB 03:34, 25 June 2017 (EDT)
I just changed it - no reason to make you wait for all the edits to get approved. I cannot find a reason why he/she needs to be one of the exceptions :) If someone insist it needs to be RR, they will need to write a note explaining why and leave it on the account :) Feel free to copy all the new data your submission had into the existing publication and submit it again. By the way - for ISBN-less books that have ASIN, the new Advanced search for external IDs is very helpful.Annie 03:50, 25 June 2017 (EDT)

Cordwell Turnbull

Or is it Cadwell Turnbull in the new Asimov's? Mine is still somewhere in the USPS system so cannot check so can you double-check? :)Annie 17:54, 25 June 2017 (EDT)

***Blush*** ***Blush*** I'm so embarrassed. I created a ham-fisted typo. Will correct. MLB 19:31, 25 June 2017 (EDT)
"a" looks a lot like "or" when the letters are not that big (that's my story and I am sticking to it:)) Thanks for the quick check! Annie 19:37, 25 June 2017 (EDT)
Just a notification that I fixed issues with 2 of the reviews in the issue: the name of Michael Miller was misspelled as Michel (if it is indeed Michel in the book, you may want to add a note in the review record) and I added the hardcover of "A Hundred Thousand Worlds" so I can link the review :) Annie 01:18, 26 June 2017 (EDT)

Who Is Willing?


Approved Who Is Willing? but shouldn't the format be "digital audio download"? Audible are downloadable so it matches. Annie 21:14, 25 June 2017 (EDT)

I don't know. The Amazon listing only states that this is an audiobook. It could be a digital audio download, or on a CD. I know nothing about Audible. If you say it's a digital audio download then I'll change it. MLB 21:19, 25 June 2017 (EDT)
Actually it says "Audible Book", not just AudioBook in the title and then in the details ("Audible Audio Edition"). Audible is an audio download only company so if you see Audible, it means downloads. They have audiobooks, dramas and radio-programs though - thus the type saying audiobook in the details. (sorry if you know that already). :) Or are we looking at different pages in Amazon. The ASIN leads here. Annie 21:25, 25 June 2017 (EDT)
No, it's the same one. **Sigh** I knew nothing about Audible, but now I know. Will change. MLB 00:21, 26 June 2017 (EDT)



I had to hard-reject 3 of your variants because one of the titles is not there anymore so it cannot variant into it (or from it). I found 2 that seemed to be what you were trying to do (the result is here but can you check the entries and resubmit any that I missed? Thanks! Annie 19:35, 27 June 2017 (EDT)

Everything looks fine, although there is still one trade paperback to add to this entry. Self-published books are fun to enter ain't they? I have since found out that Amazon is giving the wrong publishing dates for Duncan's ebooks! Sadly, very few people seem to be interested in listing these indie fantasy/horror books, or updating these authors. MLB 20:05, 27 June 2017 (EDT)
Oh, yes. They are a riot. Part of the reason for some of the cleanup, the whole ASIN moving to new field thing and so on, is to allow some of these to be added automatically when they do not have ISBNs. That should help somewhat. If you get bored, some help here won't harm :) Other from that - it comes down to priorities I guess - too many books, too little people to add them. I tend to work through an author when I stumble on one that needs it but it does not happen too often. Or whole small publishers. Thanks for working on these. :) Annie 20:16, 27 June 2017 (EDT)
I still have a ton of my own books to list on this site, but my main interests are pulp fiction, horror/indie horror, juveniles from before 2000, detective fiction, pre 2000 sf, fanzines (along with Biomass Bob), and media tie-ins. F'r instance this and this are all mine. Unfortunately, I live on a disability, so I can only do so much, so your job is still safe. :-) MLB 20:42, 27 June 2017 (EDT)

The Oldest Living Vampire Saga: Volumes I, II & III


I wondered if I should reject that one and just do it manually but figured I can fix it after the approval. You had misspelled Joseph Duncan as James Duncan in the contents (autocomplete from your browser maybe? James Duncan seems to be someone that wrote back during the pulp times and you are working on those...). I fixed it and did some merging to get the publication and author back on track. And I added the content to the title record while I was around. The result is here and the content is visible in the series list :) Annie 00:29, 28 June 2017 (EDT)

The Void Between Emotions ebook

I accepted The Void Between Emotions ebook edition, but I removed the ISBN. According to the Amazon page, that ISBN is the source of the page numbers/page count for the ebook. I didn't see any ISBN in the Look Inside. But I searched Amazon for that ISBN and found a trade paperback using it (well, the ISBN-13 form of it), so I created another entry for that, capturing the ISBN. --MartyD 07:15, 2 July 2017 (EDT)

Clockwork Wonderland


I accepted your cloning that created Clockwork Wonderland however if I had accepted it as is, it would have created the need for a date change on all 20 titles inside of it one by one (18 in the content, the anthology record and the coverart) - once they are in 2 publications, their dates cannot be changed from one of the publications. Instead I just made a single update on all titles through the already existing publication and then accepted your cloning attempt. Earlier today, I had to do the same for Forever Vacancy: A Colors in Darkness Anthology. Can you please check the dates and submit the date changes before the cloning attempt?

Also - in Clockwork Wonderland - can you look at the last item called "Authors". Is it really a story or is it an essay? Or is it just the few-liners bios that we usually do not record? Thanks! Annie 01:29, 4 July 2017 (EDT)

How do I correct this cloning mistake so you don't have to, I thought everything just merged automatically. Of course, at one time I believed in fairies, Santa Clause, and that chocolate was calorie free. I'm so un-tech literate. Should I just "add publication" and then import the contents then instead of cloning? Do you want me to do it all over again? *Authors is an essay not a story. As to what it is I don't know. A few lines or some detailed bios. The "Look Inside" feature is not clear. If we ever meet at a convention you get the right to slap me once for free for giving you a hard time. MLB 01:54, 4 July 2017 (EDT)
No, I did those before accepting so these are all good now. This was a notification for future cases :)
The merge happens but the dates remain the ones from the original publication entered in ISFDB. Import has the same issue. What needs to happen is before you clone, check the dates. If the existing publication is 2017-01-12 and the new one you are adding now is 2014-01-05, when you clone or import, the publication with date 2014-01-05 will contain titles with a date 2017-01-12 (because when the first one was added, all the dates were set to the pub date automatically). Which is obviously incorrect - if a story was published in 2014, it should not have a 2017 date. So before you clone or import, look at the dates and if the existing pub is after what you are adding now, do Edit Publication on the already existing publication (the 2017 one in my example) and change the dates on all elements except the publication itself (the publication is 2017 but the content needs to be 2014 now - because it was published in 2014). This way when you clone and/or import, the dates of the stories and so on will be the earliest of the dates and all will line up. Does this make sense?
The reason it needs to be done before the clone is that once the auto-merge happens, you cannot change the dates in bulk anymore - the story is in 2 publications so you cannot change the name, author or date from a publication (they are greyed out). If that happens, they need to be changed one by one -- doable but... And if there are already 2 publications and you are cloning from that, it needs to be done one by one anyway - but when we can prevent it, it is so much easier to do it on the publication level.
Let me know if I need to explain better. :) Annie 02:07, 4 July 2017 (EDT)
Well, no, I think I get it, but then that sounds like an awful lot of extra steps as the corrections then have to okayed by the moderator, and then the cloning can happen. MLB 20:55, 8 July 2017 (EDT)
Nope. It is only one edit - changing all the dates (from the publication edit) - just go down through the content and change them all. Then immediately submit the cloning and add a moderator note to tell the moderator that there is a pending date change that needs to go first. :) If the title already has two publications, you cannot do the one submission redating anymore. So if not done before the cloning, it is now a lot of submissions. If is this case, yes, just clone and someone will need to redate. But when it is just 1, doing it first makes sense. Annie 21:09, 8 July 2017 (EDT)
If you say so. And now they are saying that the clone is later than the original. Can we go back to smoke signals? MLB 21:24, 8 July 2017 (EDT)
Which is normal - because the first was not approved yet, you get a warning after submitting. Worked perfectly - thanks! Except that no other moderator besides me could have deciphered your note. How about "date change request pending and needs accepting before this one"? :) Annie 22:42, 8 July 2017 (EDT)

Starship Desolation

Hello, When creating the request for Starship Desolation, you copied the ASIN in the field where Cover Artist goes. I presumed that there is no cover artist so just moved the ASIN where it belongs and deleted the coverart entry. If you know who the cover artist it (I cannot see it in Amazon), can you add it again. Thanks! Annie 21:54, 7 July 2017 (EDT)

I have no idea who the artist is. I don't know why the artist is never given credit (There aught to be a Law!!) for their covers. MLB 22:08, 7 July 2017 (EDT)
Then that one is as good as it can be. Thanks. :) Annie 22:19, 7 July 2017 (EDT)

Today's interesting titles


I did some updates on today's interesting titles to get some of the capitalization fixed ("the", "by", "with" and "Is" need to be capitalized this way in the middle of a sentence and I did not fix them when I accepted earlier (note to self - submit the updates...). I also finished fixing the publisher - you started with "The Dishes Are Done, Man", then switched to "The Dishes Are Done, Man!" and it seems to be the latter so the Cruz title needed to join the rest. Annie 03:53, 11 July 2017 (EDT)

You find the oddest things on Amazon. I had no idea that there was such things as Obama and Trump porn, but there you go. Now I have to go and wash my brains out. MLB 04:09, 11 July 2017 (EDT)
Yeah... some titles just cannot be unseen. :) Annie 04:12, 11 July 2017 (EDT)

Publisher for The Dark Times


Are you sure that the publisher here is correct? If so, maybe the book you entered earlier should have the same one? Or are they indeed different? Thanks! Annie 21:21, 11 July 2017 (EDT)

Don't know. Just copied what I saw. A quick Google search doesn't tell me what P. A. stands for. Yeah, maybe they should be combined, but I don't know if Pat is the same as P. A. An example: I have two brothers P. Baumgart. One is Paul and the other is Phil (oddly enough, one is also a "P. A."). You just don't know for sure as P. A. doesn't have a website or Facebook page. Still, now you're the boss, so I guess the final decision is up to you. MLB 21:53, 11 July 2017 (EDT)
But both books are from the same author so I suspect his/her name is Pat. :) I just noticed and decided to check with you - if this is what is written, this is what is written. We will see if any of them will get more books. Annie 21:57, 11 July 2017 (EDT)

The Horrors of Seward Shores

As requested (I know you did not ask the moderators to do it but it is faster that way than waiting the subsequent updates): The Horrors of Seward Shores. All nicely converted to chapbook, short fiction added, the synopsis moved to the story (As chapbooks cannot have it). :) Annie 21:34, 11 July 2017 (EDT)

Night Terrors: OCLC


While moving the OCLC and LCCN number in your verified Night Terrors, I had to replace the OCLC you had (0671002414 - leading to this page which is a different book altogether) with 877595581 and 36246929, both of which lead to the Archway edition of the correct book (one of them says Archway in the publisher field, the other in the comments only). Feel free to remove one of them if you do not think it matches your book. :) Annie 13:01, 17 July 2017 (EDT)

Analog Science Fiction and Fact, July-August 2017


Can you check the issue for the spelling of this story's author name. You have it as Aubry Kae Anderson, Analog's site has it as Aubry Kae Andersen and we already have Aubry Kae Andersen in an older Analog issue. So is she really spelled Anderson in this issue or is it a typo? Thanks! Annie 16:15, 17 July 2017 (EDT)

Will I ever get this right? So far, your job is quite safe from me. Will correct this immediately. MLB 18:01, 17 July 2017 (EDT)
The only people that do not do mistakes are the ones that do nothing. And some days I am surprised how small is the number of typos around here especially with the author names. :) Annie 18:07, 17 July 2017 (EDT)

Analog Science Fiction and Fact, July-August 2017

Hello, apart from uploading a scan, I've also changed "C. Stuart Harwick" to "C. Stuart Hardwick". Hauck 12:51, 18 July 2017 (EDT)

Asimov's Science Fiction, July-August 2017

Hello, apart from uploading a scan, I've corrected a mispelled "Freature", changed page for Bishop's story from 143 to 144. I didn't enter the features on page 15, 59, 95, 109 or 163 even if you solely entered Bishop's one on page 148. Hauck 13:00, 18 July 2017 (EDT)

I didn't enter the other features because they were only a paragraph or two, while the Bishop feature was almost a whole page. I have no problem entering all of them if you feel that I should, but I'll only do the substantial ones in the future. Of course, "substantial" is all a matter of perspective. What do you think? All, none, or only the longish ones? MLB 17:17, 18 July 2017 (EDT)
I personnally tend to limit the contents entered to the minimum (fiction, interior art and some of the features), but it's just this, a personnal approach. As the first to enter the publication, you're the leader on this. Hauck 02:14, 19 July 2017 (EDT)
If I was going to list them all I'd have to go all the way back to the first issue of this year. As I said, Bishop's got included because of the length only, listing every remembrance paragraph would seem to lead to a slippery slope. If somebody wants to add them fine, but as you imply, it's a superficial content. Maybe I should just add the page numbers to the notes ("personal notations on pages ..." ) in the future and leave it at that. MLB 01:01, 20 July 2017 (EDT)
I'd vote for noting them in the notes (will be verifying this issue probably over the weekend so can as well say it now and not wait till them to talk to both of you. :) Annie 01:07, 20 July 2017 (EDT)

Murder Squad

I have your latest on hold because it seems like we already have it. Am I missing something? Thanks! Annie 02:03, 19 July 2017 (EDT)

Well, you're missing a lot less than I am it seems, as I completely missed this. No, they're the same book, but I did list the cover artist. I'll transfer that data over to this site's listing and delete mine. Bah! I need more, or better, caffeine. MLB 00:55, 20 July 2017 (EDT)

Black Voltage

So is that thing a publication series or an imprint? You just added one book each way. Do you mind reviewing them and making a decision so they look the same? Thanks. Annie 03:25, 22 July 2017 (EDT)

At the Mountains of Madness

Hello, I've put your submissions on hold. If At the Mountains of Madness is a NOVEL-type text (as it seems the case here), your addtions of novellas to the created records are erroneous (and At the Mountains of Madness, The Call of Cthulhu and The Music of Erich Zann is an OMNIBUS). If it's a SHORTFICTION-type text (of novella length), your submissions should be typed as CHAPBOOKs (and At the Mountains of Madness, The Call of Cthulhu and The Music of Erich Zann is an COLLECTION). What are your thoughts on the matter? Hauck 06:17, 23 July 2017 (EDT)

I agree, it's a novella, how ever it is listed as a novel on its homepage. I thought that an omnibus was several novels bound together, and At the Mountains of Madness, The Call of Cthulhu and The Music of Erich Zann is three stories and not novels. Still, if you think it should be changed from collection to omnibus, I'll go along with that. As far as I can see it, I have two choices, for you to okay these submissions and let me correct them afterwards, or to delete them entirely. Let me know what you want me to do. MLB 07:13, 23 July 2017 (EDT)
In fact technically an OMNIBUS is "A publication may be classified as an omnibus if it contains multiple works that have previously been published independently, and at least one of them is a NOVEL, ANTHOLOGY, COLLECTION, or NONFICTION." (from the Help pages). In order to save your time I'm going to correct the lot (starting with the easiest choice of the text being a NOVEL) please have alook at the result ot see if it's OK.
On a completely unrelated topic, your talk page is quite long by our standards, do you want me to archive it or do you prefer to do it yourself? Hauck 08:08, 23 July 2017 (EDT)

Death's Rival

I've updated the Printing History for Death's Rival and moved the LCCN & OCLC refs. --AndyjMo 16:22, 27 July 2017 (EDT)

"The Crawl Space"

I have just read Joyce Carol Oates's story "The Crawl Space" which is in this magazine you verified, and I think it may be non-genre. It is about a widow who cannot be free of memories of her husband, and feels drawn back to the house where they lived, and down into a basement crawl space where she finds relics of the past and is trapped by memory. It is all very creepy but the haunting is strictly metaphorical, nothing supernatural. I could see it being in an anthology of ghost stories, though, because it would fit in with the tone very well. Do you think non-supernatural ghost stories are "genre"? Whether or not it's marked non-genre, it should stay in the database because of its Stoker Award win. --Vasha 14:06, 3 August 2017 (EDT)

I feel that we've had this argument already. I can't read everything. I've been a subscriber of Ellery Queen's since 1974, and while I have read many an issue, I only skim them now, while only reading selective stories. The Oats story is a prime example of this. Do I think non-supernatural horror stories should be listed here? Well, it depends on the story, which often makes it the choice of the editor and the moderator. There is no real yes or no answer to this question. One editor's speculative story can be another editor's non-speculative story. I've read my share of non-speculative fantasies that were published in magazines like F&SF but are listed here just because of where they were published. Again, I can't give a straight yes/no answer to this. The fact that the Oats' story has won a Stoker pretty much cinches her story's place here on this site. If you want a perfect example of a non-supernatural horror story go read The Haunting of Hill House in which the ghosts are all in the protagonist's mind as she slowly starts loosing her grip on her sanity. The same is true for the story The Yellow Wallpaper. Nobody would be taken seriously if they were to suggest that these stories be deleted, they're canon' by now. MLB 17:45, 3 August 2017 (EDT)
I agree with you that the fuzzy boundary of horror stories should be drawn inclusive... I didn't mark this story non-genre, I just made a note. Thanks for replying and I'm sorry to make you repeat things you've said before. Vasha 18:26, 3 August 2017 (EDT)
Don't be sorry, this site is a living breathing thing, it can't grow without information and people asking questions. It's designed for the curious and those who ask questions and state their genre opinions. MLB 00:38, 4 August 2017 (EDT)

The Very Bloody Marys

Hello, I've approved your clone but you indicate a tp format even if the link provided point to a ebook. Can you check? Thanks. Hauck 03:24, 4 August 2017 (EDT)

Sloppy editing on my end, I've fixed it. Thanks. MLB 03:28, 4 August 2017 (EDT)

Order of texts

Hello, instead of entering "false" page numbers to order your texts, it's better use the "|" method (see here) as I did for your submission. Hauck 07:01, 4 August 2017 (EDT)

Now I know. (I think). MLB 20:59, 4 August 2017 (EDT)

The Lighter Side

I've updated the printing history, added the source of the Cover Artist and moved the OCLC for The Lighter Side. --AndyjMo 10:36, 4 August 2017 (EDT)

Fate's Edge

Replaced Amazon cover art for Fate's Edge with a scan of my copy. Added Copyright statement. --AndyjMo 11:48, 5 August 2017 (EDT)

Blood Challenge

Replaced Amazon cover art for Blood Challenge with a scan of my copy, added the Copyright statement and LCCN. --AndyjMo 16:48, 5 August 2017 (EDT)

Death Magic

Replaced the Amazon cover art for Death Magic with a scan of my copy and added the Copyright statement. --AndyjMo 16:52, 5 August 2017 (EDT)


Hello ! If the data contained in this pub is written in Cyrillic, as it appears to be, then it should be entered that way. If you have no access to the Cyrillic text (have you tried Fantlab ?), then it would be better to cancel this submission, in my opinion. Thanks, Linguist 06:22, 10 August 2017 (EDT).

No, never tried it, but I can't read it anyway. Unlike you, I don't have the knack for learning any other language but my native one, and its various dialects. I was just trying to fill out the basic information on Koontz' book, having just acquired a used copy. I'll bow to your greater knowledge and cancel the submission. MLB 08:09, 10 August 2017 (EDT)
I think this is what you want; but there are actually four earlier versions of it. I'll deal with them some time this week, as I have a rather tight schedule at the moment. But you can try your hand at it if you like (best way to learn  :o) !), using Google Translation for transliterations. Linguist 08:32, 10 August 2017 (EDT).
Try, try, try again. I took your advice and tried to right a wrong. When you got time it's ready for your perusal. No rush. MLB 10:35, 10 August 2017 (EDT)
See, when you want ! I have approved your submission (the result is here), and made the following corrections : changed the publisher and pub series to their Cyrillic spelling; added transliterations in the corresponding fields (so that the note about it became redundant); changed incorrect ISBN; linked to the scan given by FantLab, the definition of which seemed slightly better than that of Amazon; added FantLab ID to the list; made "Дин Кунц" a pseudonym of "Dean R. Koontz"; varianted Маска to The Mask. Hope I didn't forget anything ! I'll go back to the other Russian editions later. Linguist 12:29, 10 August 2017 (EDT).
Discovered too late you had already varianted it. Sorry, had to cancel this submission ! Linguist 12:34, 10 August 2017 (EDT).

I put your other submission on hold : would this "Headline (Aus)" be in fact "Hodder Headline Australia" (or another of the Australian Headline variety) ? Linguist 12:39, 10 August 2017 (EDT).

Thanks, thanks, and triple thanks, for the help on the Russian book. Didn't know how to list the Headline version of their version of the Mask. The Australian version states that this Headline is part of the Hatchett group, so, no Hodder Headline, I think. This ebook might be pretty much the same as the British version, except for a completely different cover. MLB 03:38, 11 August 2017 (EDT)
I'm not sure how to deal with this one. I'll ask the community if anyone is more familiar with it. Might take a bit more time… Linguist 04:26, 11 August 2017 (EDT).
After conferring with the community, it appears that it must either be "Hodder Headline Australia" or just “Headline”. If there is no mention of Hodder in the pub you are dealing with, it must then be the latter. Can you confirm this ? Linguist 11:08, 13 August 2017 (EDT).
In the meantime, here are the other four known Russian editions of The Mask. Linguist 06:29, 12 August 2017 (EDT).
Awesome. I really like the cover to this one. Go figure. MLB 16:01, 12 August 2017 (EDT)


Unseen: replaced Amazon cover art with a scan of my copy, updated the Printing History. --AndyjMo 05:25, 17 August 2017 (EDT)

Working Stiff

Working Stiff: replaced Amazon cover art with a scan of my copy, updated the Printing History. --AndyjMo 05:32, 17 August 2017 (EDT)

Irish Ghost Stories

Hi. You verified and probably entered this 2005 Wordsworth Collection P363467.

Does this book credit Thomas Crofton Croker for two stories as "Croker" and three as "Crocker", as our record currently shows?

Does this book give any year or source for the Croker selection "Daniel O'Rourke"? If (The four other Croker stories are from the 1825 first volume of Fairy Legends T2075397, and "Daniel O'Rourke" does not appear by that name in any volume.) At Wikipedia the Croker biography lists a book first published in 1829. OCLC 8703297 reports something published as 1828. May the version you have be described as "rhymes of a pantomime" or "libretto"? --Pwendt|talk 15:57, 27 August 2017 (EDT)

Here is one prose "Daniel O'Rourke" attributed to Croker by Yeats in 1888 anthology (p97-105) and I have found others that may differ only by shortening the first paragraph. --Pwendt|talk 16:45, 27 August 2017 (EDT)
Okay, here's what I know. As I have stated elsewhere, a couple of years ago my life was completely turned upside down, and a great deal of my books went into storage, including this one. At present I can't locate it, but, if I remember correctly, this is a corrected verification from an already existing entry. There is no acknowledgement page as I stated in the notes and I am/was unfamiliar with most of the contents of this book, so I don't know where the contents came from. I suspect that this was an instant remainder, hence the sloppiness of its assemblage. According to Amazon’s “Look Inside” feature Thomas Crofton Croker wrote the following stories in this anthology:
•The Haunted Cellar.
•Legend of Battle Hill. ["Bottle"]
•The Legend of Knockgrafton. [as "Crocker" in the 2005 Contents list]
•Daniel O’Rourke. [as "Crocker"]
•Master and Man.
More information: After checking out several listings on Amazon, Irish Ghost Stories, has no editor and it’s a massive anthology. But according to Irish Ghost Stories edited by Rosemary Gray, is a severely truncated edition of the original anthology. For instance there are only nine of the twenty-four stories by L. Sheridan LeFanu, from the original reprinted, and the contents have been re-arranged. This is muddied by David Stuart Davies having his name as an editor on an anthology of short ghost fictions with the same name, and on both Gray and Davies are given editorial credit for the same anthology. Fun stuff. MLB 02:14, 28 August 2017 (EDT)
[Above I annotated three bullet points in brackets.]
Oops, one prose "Daniel O'Rourke" is the 20th chapter, p277-94, of the 1825 Fairy Legends (which is volume 1 of 3). Reading its Contents list at HathiTrust days ago, I simply overlooked that. So the 1828 and 1829 pantomime/libretto works I found at WorldCat are derivative. The chapter is longer than "Daniel O'Rourke" in the 1888 Yeats anthology, and other later versions I found, because it concludes with Croker's note below a horizontal line (see 1825, page 291).
I will convert our Fairy Legends publication record P590383 from the 3-volume work as 1825 to the 1st volume as 1825, and import those stories already in the database. I will say something about multiple versions of "Daniel O'Rourke" (and others?) in one shortfiction title note, create no new title records for versions that differ in fore- and after-notes.
The 2005 anthology I leave to you.
Concerning Crocker/Croker, "Look inside" Contents list shows 2 by Croker, later 2 by "Crocker", finally 1 by Croker, so the latter should be changed: remove variant T1336349 and import at p1063 its parent T83807.
Let me proofread our writer credits for the 2005 anthology ... done, by comparison with the "Look inside" Contents list, where our publication record should follow those pages where the selections begin, if the writers are also credited there. The Contents list implies that we need two new pseudonyms and one note:
  • p1011 needs new pseudonym Herminie Kavanagh
  • p959 note listing/credit "Dublin University Magazine (1839)"
  • p793 needs new pseudonym Dorothy Macardl
Until checking those pages in your book, I would merely Note the discrepancies (Herminie Templeton, Dorothy Macardle, perhaps also Crocker/Croker).
--Pwendt|talk 17:40, 31 August 2017 (EDT)


I accepted Dracula and will leave the fixing-up to you. While you're at it, take a look at this record. Yours and it share the same ISBN, but there's not enough information in it for me to tell if they're true duplicates. Perhaps your cover will provide a clue. If you think they are the same, I suggest you move the artist credit + source and delete this existing record (and its title). CHAPBOOK + SHORTFICTION/NOVELLA is clearly correct, not NOVEL. --MartyD 20:39, 28 August 2017 (EDT)

My copy seems to be the same book, same company, but different imprint. Mine seems to be an earlier printing before Step-Up Adventures was canceled. Just for fun, Amazon also gives us this: Dracula_-2.jpg again, same book, same illustrator, different imprint, but same publishing house. Stuff like this gives me headaches. On the other hand, Amazon has been wrong before. I'm sure this answers very little. Still, if you want I can update this record with what I know. MLB 01:16, 29 August 2017 (EDT)
More information never hurts, if you're inclined to go to the trouble to add it. My only purpose was to avoid a possible duplicate, which you are confirming they are not. --MartyD 08:14, 29 August 2017 (EDT)

Sleuth series vs. imprint

Hi. For your submission that I have on hold, it looks to me like Sleuth was a Putnam imprint at the time. Via Google I find some verbiage about that on, I see we have Sleuth / Putnam, and also searching for "sleuth" in the Look Inside says that in the Front Matter is "SLEUTH / C. P. PUTNAM'S SONS a division of..." Unfortunately, the Look Inside doesn't show the full page for that. Anyway, what do you think about imprint vs. series? --MartyD 20:54, 28 August 2017 (EDT)

Like Hard Case, Sleuth seems to have been a wandering imprint. It has been associated with C. P. Putnam's Sons and with Philomel, both divisions of Penguin. With the Putnam's books that I have Sleuth can be found ("Sleuth Philomel") on the title page, and only on the cover of the Putnam books. It might even have associated with other publishers. Let me know if you think that it should be a publisher's series or an imprint of the publisher. I'll do some correcting if I you want. Let me know which way you think things should go. MLB 02:14, 29 August 2017 (EDT)
It sounds like an imprint to me. How is it mentioned (if it is mentioned at all), in Double Life? --MartyD 08:12, 29 August 2017 (EDT)
On my copies of Double Life and Shadow Beast the only two Invisible Detective books that I own, Sleuth is on the spine of the book and dust jacket (these books have two covers: the dust jacket and the dj’s artwork printed-on-the-cover-boards) and on the inside front dust jacket flap (SLUETH/G. P. PUTNAM’S SONS over "a division of Penguin Young Readers Group"), and nowhere else in or on the books. This is unlike A Tour Of Evil which makes a point of putting Sleuth on its title page. I suppose that despite the two different ways that Sleuth is used, it should probably be standardized. Let me know. MLB 17:38, 29 August 2017 (EDT)
The latter is definitely an imprint-style designation, not a publisher series designation. I think you should go with the "Sleuth / Putnam" we already have as publisher and record these two specific details in the pub notes in case we get more clever about publishers someday. --MartyD 06:26, 30 August 2017 (EDT)

Dublin University Magazine

To make it a pseudonym of two authors, just add another pseudonym (same way you did the original). -- JLaTondre (talk) 08:53, 3 September 2017 (EDT)

Thanks. MLB 17:48, 3 September 2017 (EDT)

Destined for an Early Grave

I’ve added the copyright statement to Destined for an Early Grave. I’ve added the Cover Artist (Thomas Egner) as he is mentioned in the Acknowledgements, and the Canadian Price. The book does not have an inner cover, the gray border is just a gray border. --AndyjMo 13:45, 3 September 2017 (EDT)

Thanks! MLB 17:47, 3 September 2017 (EDT)


Updated the Printing History for Crashcourse. Changed the LCCN as the one shown (2010714592) was for a completely different book. --AndyjMo 17:30, 4 September 2017 (EDT)

Killing Rocks

Replaced the Amazon cover art for Killing Rocks with a scan of my copy, added the Printing History and LCCN. --AndyjMo 11:05, 5 September 2017 (EDT)

Adding notes, synopses, detailed dates, nongenre markings to Wilkie Collins

I have been going through The Wilkie Collins Information Pages and adding some of their very detailed information to the database. This affects your verified publication Mad Monkton and Other Stories. On the whole, I have not changed anything you originally entered, only added things. However, I marked "The Stolen Letter," "The Lady of Glenwith Grange," and "The Biter Bit" as nongenre on the basis of those synopses and (in most cases) skimming the story. if you've read them and know of anything supernatural (perhaps incidental), please change them back to genre. --Vasha 13:58, 10 September 2017 (EDT)

Ditto for "Mr. Wray's Cashbox" in Crime for Christmas. --Vasha 15:15, 10 September 2017 (EDT)
Collins has been on to-be-read list for quite some time, but I yet to get to him, so I'll bow to your knowledge in this matter. Very often these books from these classic authors were entered before I came on board, and all I could do was tinker and verify, unless I had actually read the stories themselves. I assumed, wrongly it seems, that there were readers of these classic authors working on this site. I try, but I can only read so much. Remember, buy, then verify. Oh, and thanks for the heads up, and feel free to change any mistakes. MLB 18:56, 10 September 2017 (EDT)
Thanks, and welcome back. --Vasha 22:00, 10 September 2017 (EDT)

Dark Shadows - New Series Numbering

I originally accepted your re-numbering of Dark Shadows - New Series, but I've switched them back. There already was a book 2. It just wasn't written by Lara Parker. Parker did write the introduction for it however. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 08:40, 16 September 2017 (EDT)

Well, okay. I was just going by what Amazon stated. I should have checked first. Sorry. MLB 12:53, 16 September 2017 (EDT)

verification Request

Could you please take a look at Steampunk Cthulhu and see if DJ Tyrer's name is spelled "D. J." or "DJ" in it? If necessary, please change the records to the correct form... thanks! --Vasha 00:52, 22 September 2017 (EDT)

Tales of Mystery and Terror

Hi, I've added Marjorie P. Katz as author to Tales of Mystery and Terror, so I can merge Tales of Mystery and Terror with Tales of Mystery and Terror. If you follow the links, you'll find it less crazy than it reads here.--Dirk P Broer 08:02, 3 October 2017 (EDT)

The Secret Garden

Hi, I've added Malvina G. Vogel as author to The Secret Garden, as it is an abridged adaption. May want to make it a chapterbook too.--Dirk P Broer 08:08, 3 October 2017 (EDT)

Minor correction to verified publication

In The Thing in the Swamp and More Not-So-Scary Stories I changed the publisher from "Prentice Hall" to "Prentice-Hall." --Vasha 09:54, 12 October 2017 (EDT)

Okay. MLB 22:25, 13 October 2017 (EDT)

The Devil's Playground

I've updated the Printing History for The Devil's Playground. I've changed the interior artist's name to ' Agnieszka Michalska' (with an "h") as that is how it is spelt on the Copyright Page and there are no other links to the other name. --AndyjMo 08:57, 14 October 2017 (EDT)

Thanks, and thanks for revealing my super-hero identity as "Super Typo Man" (c). MLB 13:57, 14 October 2017 (EDT)

Don't Open This Book!

In Don't Open This Book!, would you please verify the story on page 127 is by Patrick LoBrutto and not Patrick Lobutto? I meant to hold an edit changing it from the latter to the former, but approved it instead. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 16:52, 23 October 2017 (EDT)

Ah yes, typos. I do believe you got that right. Feel free to change. MLB 19:30, 23 October 2017 (EDT)

Armchair Fiction cover scans

Hi Mark, just a heads-up that deep-links to Armchair Fiction covers, while entirely OK and within the rules, can result in the display of a full size image over 3000 pixels wide and more than 7Mb in size, and are therefore very slow to load and display. I've taken the liberty to replace the cover for Cosmic Kill/Beyond the End of Space with a 95k image file instead. Thanks. PeteYoung 17:29, 31 October 2017 (EDT)

That's fine, but I should inform you that this image didn't come from me. I was looking up one of the authors and noticed that one of the covers was from Emsh (it is signed) and thought that I would identify it. MLB 02:08, 1 November 2017 (EDT)

Tales of Terror

I accepted Tales of Terror, but had a question: Is the essay by Nelson Omsted actually titled by his name or was that an error? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 12:11, 5 November 2017 (EST)

Indeed. There is an introductory paragraph then four paragraphs of Nelson Omsted talking about his life. Not really any different than so many of these things that are found in the pulps. MLB 22:15, 5 November 2017 (EST)

The world's finest mystery etc. no. 1

I've looked through The World's Finest Mystery and Crime Stories; First Annual Collection which you verified and have a few changes to suggest. (On a minor matter, that semicolon in the title should be a colon as is standard for this DB.)

  1. "The Mummy Case" is subtitled "A Midnight Louie Past Life Adventure" at the head of the story.
  2. I'd like to mark "The Case of the Headless Witness" nongenre; Biggle may be a genre writer, but this particular story isn't.
  3. Conversely, "'53 Buick" and "Not Long Now" are speculative and should be added.
  4. I think Joyce Carol Oates counts as an author of genre significance, so maybe add "The Dark Prince" and mark it nongenre.
  5. Are you sure it's a good idea to include separate records for the author bios? They're really quite short.

--Vasha 17:54, 7 November 2017 (EST)

Ah yes, the first year of my tenure here, back when I was honing my ability to create typos to that of a fine art. I just skimmed through this collection so I concede that I may have missed some, and made mistakes on others. I will correct #1-4, and #5. Yes. Unfortunately, you'll have to add the notes as my copy seems to have gone walkabout. Much has changed around here, and in my life, so a lot of books went into storage, this was one of them. MLB 21:24, 7 November 2017 (EST)

With the Lightnings

My copy of With the Lightnings has the Copyright date as 1998. Is the date of 1995 in the current record a typing error? --AndyjMo 12:32, 12 November 2017 (EST)

Out of this World Adventures, December 1950

Hi Mark. I've added the cover artist to the December 1950 issue of Out of This World Adventures of which you've verified the reprint. The artist is identified in Miller/Contento and in another book that I'm in the process of entering. I've got a few other changes that I'd like to make, but since they will affect both our publications I'm discussing them first. For the comics in the center of the magazine, I think these should be split into two titles each. One for the short fiction, another for the illustration. We don't have written standard for this situation since comics are not ordinarily eligible. However, I've added other comics in this manner (with 2 titles) when they've occurred in other genre magazines or collections. I'd also recommend that we use the pseudonyms as credited for Kubert (J. Kubert) and Wollheim (D.A.W.). These are already mentioned in the notes. I've also taken a stab at deciphering the signature for the artwork on page 83. With the aid of a magnifying glass, it looks to me like it might be "William McWilliams". Lastly, I also noticed that you don't have the illustration that appears on page 43. While that may be by design, I don't think the reprint would omit that one based on where it appears in the original. Let me know how you feel about my proposed changes. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 12:47, 12 November 2017 (EST)

First: feel free to revamp any and all of my entry for the December 1950 issue of Out of This World Adventures. Second: When I first found this site the pulp was listed, but when I entered the facsimile the pulp had been deleted (?). I suppose because of the comic content, but the pulp was reentered using my facsimiles as a model. How you enter comics is how I now enter comics and comic strips. I've never heard of a William McWilliams before but there was a comic artist by the name of A. McWilliams. You can check out his signiture here in my Amazon review where I also post some (poor) scans of McWilliams artwork. There is also a signature example here. Still, congrats on possibly discovering a new artist. As I said, please feel free to change any and all of my entry to make it better. MLB 18:03, 12 November 2017 (EST)
One last thing, I remember reading somewhere that E. J. Bellin was a pseudonym of C. M. Kornbluth, but I wouldn't swear to it. MLB

18:17, 12 November 2017 (EST)

Just discovered this on this site. Maybe? MLB 18:24, 12 November 2017 (EST)
Also, this site tells all. MLB 18:33, 12 November 2017 (EST)
Excellent research! I've made the edits. Let me know if you see anything else that needs to be changed. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 21:09, 13 November 2017 (EST)
Looks good. I also added, when accepted, the above internet address to this page. MLB 00:30, 14 November 2017 (EST)

"Hearing Aid" by David Langford

In your verified publication 100 Hilarious Little Howlers, "Hearing Aid" by David Langford appears. There was a note with a recent anthology publication of this story: "David Langford's 'Hearing Aid' first appeared in SF in Practical Computing (London, October 1982) in a badly mutilated form; reprinted in full in Phoenix magazine (Wantage, August 1983)." (But I have not seen the story itself to be able to make a comparison of texts.) Is there any information in 100 Hilarious Little Howlers that would allow you to figure out whether it is reprinted from SF in Practical Computing or in full there? --Vasha 21:51, 12 November 2017 (EST)

Here is what the acknowledgements page sez: "Hearing Aid by David Langford, copyright 1982 David Langford. Reprinted by permission of the author." Which tells us little, although I can gather from the copyright date, that your information is correct, although this still doesn't tell us if the version in the 100 Hilarious Little Howlers anthology is the full version or not. I can type out random paragraphs if you want, but as my scanner is taking a vacation (damn those scanner gremlins!!) I can't scan random pages for you. MLB 22:51, 13 November 2017 (EST)
Wouldn't help, I don't have the text of either version to compare. I merely made a note on the story saying that we don't know which version is in Hilarious Little Howlers. Thanks for checking. --Vasha 22:54, 13 November 2017 (EST)
Pete Young contacted the author and figured matters out (all reprints are the full version) and I have updated the note. --Vasha 12:40, 28 November 2017 (EST)


Hi, Mark Louis! I have transformed the second cover for Amazing Stories Replicas, May, 1944—Vol. 18, No. 3 into a piece of interior art, as that's the way we handle art reproduced on back covers. A Cover2 is possible on dos format publications or publications that reproduce more than one cover art pieces on their cover (such as OMNIBUSes). Thanks, Christian Stonecreek 02:57, 16 November 2017 (EST)


Regarding your note in the submission, where are you trying to add Binder? I am not sure what you are trying to do so I do not know how to answer the question :) Annie 12:38, 20 November 2017 (EST)

Eando Binder is, at the time of Cosmo's writing two people, Earl Binder and Otto Binder. So I wasn't sure, in this mess of names how to list a joint pseudonym. MLB 15:47, 20 November 2017 (EST)
Ah, I see. I would add it as 1 person on the original title (as used then - Eando) and then make it 2 names in the parent so it goes to the proper pages. Let me know if you would like me to fix that? Think of it this way - the original record should have the names as listed (plus standardization for capital letters and so on) and then in the adding of the parent, you replace the pseudonym name with the list of names needed (so it goes in their proper pages). If that means that 5 authors become 20 once the pseudonyms are split so be it. Annie 15:51, 20 November 2017 (EST)
Yeah, please go a head and do it. It would probably save a couple of steps. MLB 15:53, 20 November 2017 (EST)
Take a look and tell me if that looks fine. All that seemed to remain was to add Otto Binder to the parent. :) Annie 16:09, 20 November 2017 (EST)
And does this invalidate this? Or does yet another variant needed? Annie 16:10, 20 November 2017 (EST)
Looks fine. And yes, Lloyd Arthur Eshbach invalidates Lloyd A. Eshbach. This is a messy submission, sorry for the trouble. MLB 16:17, 20 November 2017 (EST)
Not a problem at all. Multi-author books are a pain (especially when we have joint pseudonyms). Why cannot people just use one name... Annie 16:19, 20 November 2017 (EST)
Should I just leave this submission alone now, or should I list the contests, as each chapter is written by a different author. MLB 16:24, 20 November 2017 (EST)
This is the reprint of something in a fanzine, right? Was it a serial in the fanzine or presented as individual stories? If it is a classical serial there, I would leave it as is. If they were stories that we want to connect one on one, then list the content. I had never seen the fanzine but I had seen novels like that - and I would not list the separate chapters one by one... But as you are the verifier, up to you. Annie 16:30, 20 November 2017 (EST)
This was serialized as a series of separate booklets attached to a regularly published fanzine. Or so I understand. Precocious as he was, Dad was still only three at the time of this novel's serialization, so I have no personal knowledge of Cosmos' printing history except from what I have read. I think that I'll just leave it as it is. MLB 16:47, 20 November 2017 (EST)

High Adventure, #155

I accepted High Adventure, #155, but the submission had a bad ISBN (missing the "-594" from the middle). I found it on Amazon and in Amazon's Look Inside, so I corrected it. --MartyD 05:59, 21 November 2017 (EST)

Horns since you're the primary verifier... could you check as to whether the listed "Acknowledgements, Notes, Confessions" is a typo of "Acknowledgments, Notes, Confessions"? that's the title in the copy i'm looking at. thanks. gzuckier 22:41, 26 November 2017 (EST)

Yes, it's a typo. MLB 16:30, 27 November 2017 (EST)
I just put the request on hold. From the looks of it, the essay in its current name is used in only 2 publications - yours (above) and its 11th printing - I suspect it is in both because of an import. So instead of removing it from your publication and adding a new one (which then will need to be varianted and I suspect then deleted when we chase down the other copy), I am planning to ping the other verifier, make sure it is indeed a typo there and then just rename the essay itself. Any objections? Or is there anything I am overlooking? Annie 17:20, 28 November 2017 (EST)
No, that is fine with me. MLB 17:22, 28 November 2017 (EST)
Note left - once Susan responds back, I will either accept your update and do all needed variants and deletions to finalize or reject your update and just rename the thing. Thanks! Annie 17:26, 28 November 2017 (EST)
let me go grab the book...Acknowledgments, Notes, Confessions Susan O'Fearna 11:47, 29 November 2017 (EST)
Thanks! Essay name adjusted and we are all set. Annie 11:52, 29 November 2017 (EST)

The Man Eater

I added some notes to this pub regarding source of art credit and international prices. Doug H 21:32, 5 December 2017 (EST)

Yeah, I suspect that Shroud Publishing was a bit liberal in its editing practices, but couldn't prove anything. So, thanks. MLB 23:28, 5 December 2017 (EST)

1923 Alice omnibus

Hi. You verified the 1923 omnibus P390680 with 4 plates by Edwin John Prittie, and I suppose you are the author of the entire record.

I submitted publication update that reconciles the second illustrator name as "Edwin John Prittie" (the correct full name), rather than "Ewin John Prittie" in three listed Contents. And I added External links to two WorldCat records that report:

"xiii, 319 pages, [4] leaves of plates : illustrations (some color) ; 22 cm."
"xiv, 319 pages : illustrations (some color) ; 23 cm"

Your page-count 149+166 implies two series of arabic page numbers. from the page-numbered Contents imply a single series. I suppose that we/you should follow one of the WorldCat records (xiii+319, xiv+319) or nearly so if that can be improved.

To be continued --if I find more information about the book. I am disappointed to find in auto-search of 1920 to 1925 newspapers no hits for ("Edwin John Prittie") or (alice prittie). But encouraged in a way to find only one hit for any book that he illustrated, a single notice of The Mary Frances Story Book by Jane Eayre Fryer. I don't really doubt the 1923 date.

I added information at Edwin John Prittie, also in the submission queue as I write. --Pwendt|talk 17:41, 6 December 2017 (EST)

Well, thanks for the added information. I found this book at a church book sale. Edwin John Prittie may have been a professional free-lance artist who did work for forgotten or non-genre sources. Sadly, so many contributors to literature are now lost to time, as their contributions were never seriously documented. MLB 18:37, 6 December 2017 (EST)

Splatterspunk: The Micah Hayes Stories

Hi, you verified this pub. I'm going to to add the German translation and found some inconsistencies: A) The foreword in the German book is credited to Micah Hayes, not Mikah Hayes, B) The Prologue is not an ESSAY but a fictional text and should be defined with type SHORTFICTION C)There is an "Epilogue" at the end of the German book. Is this missing in the English original? Thank you very much! Boskar 08:43, 16 December 2017 (EST)

And does it seem reasonable that the foreword is really by the two authors? Stonecreek 08:50, 16 December 2017 (EST)
There was a time when I bought and read everything by Edward Lee, but then I kinda lost interest. Do to that and some personal upheavals in my life that book got kinda shuffled off somewhere, but I did read it so, from my memory: If there was a Epilogue, I would have listed it, I think. When I can, I'll look for the book to see. A foreword by two authors? Not unusual when the book is by two writers.
Michah Hayes instead of Mikah Hayes? Typo.
I believe that I entered this entry before I read it, so if you say so, then the Prologue by Hayes is a piece of fiction. I can change that.
When I can, I'll try to find this book and see what it sez about some of my omissions. MLB 00:29, 18 December 2017 (EST)
With the 'foreword by two authors' I meant that 'Micah Hayes' may be just a pseudonym for the two authors. Stonecreek 03:47, 18 December 2017 (EST)
Well, it seems the most likely thing and I established a variant. Christian Stonecreek 09:01, 20 December 2017 (EST)

13: Resurrected: An Anthology Of Horror and Dark Fiction

Please do a date correction first for the contents (and the title) of this anthology; now: 2017-12-09. Thanks, Christian Stonecreek 05:16, 20 December 2017 (EST)

Aye-aye. MLB 05:27, 20 December 2017 (EST)

Cemetery Dance #70

I believe there is a typo in the last content item here --Vasha 21:51, 29 December 2017 (EST)

It'll take a while to track down that issue, but, yeah, that sentence hurts. MLB 21:58, 29 December 2017 (EST)

Dene Bebbington or Debe Bebbington ...

... in The Ripple Effect, or both? Christian Stonecreek 16:04, 30 December 2017 (EST)

No, it's a typo, and Dene. Will change. Don't know how other people do it, but I had to hand copy the contents, and then type them onto this site. Trying to read my writing is a dangerous thing. MLB 23:09, 30 December 2017 (EST)
Well, I usually do a double-check and copy & paste the names already entered; one or the other error does slip through this way, alas. Have a good end of the year! Christian Stonecreek 06:06, 31 December 2017 (EST)
And may you have a good end of the year also! MLB 18:02, 31 December 2017 (EST)

Black Static #41

Ralph Robert Moore's website says his story "Ghosts Play in Boys' Pajamas" was published in Black Static #41, and their website agrees, but you don't list it in your verified record. Could you check that? Thanks. --Vasha 18:45, 9 January 2018 (EST)

Some cover artists additions ...

... were supplied by a new editor for publications PVed by you. The cover artist in question is David Mann. CHristian Stonecreek 00:04, 17 January 2018 (EST)

Cool, anything to make me look brighter than I really am. MLB 01:20, 17 January 2018 (EST)

KJ Kabza

Since you verified the Magazine of Fantasy & Science Fiction for November-December 2013, could you please confirm that KJ Kabza's name is in fact printed without periods between the intials there? --Vasha 17:09, 22 January 2018 (EST)

Thrilling Adventures, July 1933

In your Thrilling Adventures, July 1933, is the story "Valley of the Giants" (as is shown as the title) or "Valley of Giants" (as is listed in the publication notes)? A reprint is listing it as "Valley of Giants" so want to check before varianting. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 21:03, 23 January 2018 (EST)

I guess I must of rewrote the title in my mind and then let my fingers do my thinking for me. Bah! Humbug! I'll correct immediately. MLB 21:27, 23 January 2018 (EST)

Author initials

In a R&S discussion, Ahasuerus has explained what he thinks the current policy is about author intials without periods. Do you have any comments? --Vasha 10:57, 28 January 2018 (EST)

Allison Rides the Rapids

Is this book speculative fiction? There is nothing in the provided synopsis that makes it sound like it is. -- JLaTondre (talk) 21:03, 29 January 2018 (EST)

Wow! I had forgotten that I even had this book. The stuff you find at garage sales. If I remember correctly, kids find old clothes in an attic, whose I can't remember, and when they wear the clothes they are whisked back in time to that time. I never read the book, so I can't tell you if it is an imaginary adventure or not. I believe that this is what is called a slipstream novel, and this trope was very popular in the romance genre. I consider these things speculative.
Here is a quote from the product page on Amazon "Three girls each find adventure when they open an old clothes trunk in a neighbor's attic. When each child puts on an article of clothing (a different one each time the trunk is opened), she is suddenly transported to the period or place of the costume." A kid's book to be sure, but speculative in nature. Besides romances, L. Sprague de Camp gave us The Glory That Was back in 1952 (which I have read) and Mark Twain gave us A Connecticut Yankee . . . (which I haven't read). Perhaps a revamping of the synopsis is needed. MLB 04:38, 30 January 2018 (EST)
I updated the synopsis. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 17:34, 30 January 2018 (EST)

Weird Fiction Review

I'm about to enter three issues of The Weird Fiction Review. You're the only other active verifier of the issues we have in the database. I'd like to convert this from a series of anthologies to a magazine. The fact that the issues have dates and are referred to as issues as opposed to volumes make me think that it is really a magazine. Additionally it is listed both at FictionMags and Galactic Central, two magazine web sites. Would you object if I converted it to a magazine? Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 21:52, 29 January 2018 (EST)

Your point is a good one, I'm ashamed to say that it never occured to me. This bookzine clearly falls into a grey area of publishing, so go ahead, reorganize these bookzines into something more coherent. MLB 04:57, 30 January 2018 (EST)
I've converted your issue. I also tweaked the title per the standards for magazines and adjusted the date to 2012. You had a note that the publisher's website didn't list a date. They do now and thus I went with that date. I was unsure whether to go with the more specific October 2012, though I think that may be part of the Mad Magazine parody and thus left the month off which is how we would date a Fall 2012 issue in any case. Thanks again. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 21:39, 30 January 2018 (EST)

A Walk In The Moonlight: True Tales of Hauntings and Strange Coincidences

I have your addition of A Walk In The Moonlight: True Tales of Hauntings and Strange Coincidences on hold. Based on the title & synopsis, this doesn't seem genre (regardless of whether ghosts are real or not, this is marketed as true stories so is not fiction) and the author doesn't seem above the threshold for non-genre works. Your thoughts? -- JLaTondre (talk) 17:41, 30 January 2018 (EST)

I'm working my way through her works for this site, and she has about twenty-five novels and chapbooks to be entered here. And still writing. I thought that this chapbook collection should be entered as non-genre, but it's not worth fighting about. Feel free to do what you want. If you want, you can wait until this project is done and then decide. There are so many independent authors that should be listed here that have fallen between the cracks. MLB 17:56, 30 January 2018 (EST)
Check out here if you want. MLB 17:59, 30 January 2018 (EST)
I've rejected it. I'm not seeing anything that she's above the threshold for non-genre works. -- JLaTondre (talk) 18:11, 30 January 2018 (EST)
Okay, now I know. MLB 18:13, 30 January 2018 (EST)

Beverly Kills

Hi. I have your proposed Beverly Kills addition on hold. Is that spec-fic? The little I can find about it makes it look like a slasher story. Thanks. --MartyD 10:52, 3 February 2018 (EST)

You know as much about this novel as I do. I own nothing, nor have I read anything, by this author. I stumble across these indie authors, and seeing that they are not listed on this site, will do so. It's a dirty job, but...yadda, yadda, yadda. Since we have listed on this site authors like Chris Pike, R. L. Stine, Diana Hoh, and adult authors like Michael Slade, all of whose works often, or mostly, deal with non-supernatural, visceral horror I thought completeness should work. Who knows? There might be something in there, I just haven't read it. We list books of terror on this site all of the time, but ultimately, I guess this is a case-by-case procedure. What I would include, you might not, so, since you're my boss in these things, I will leave it up to you. Pretty passive/aggressive eh? MLB 16:09, 3 February 2018 (EST)
Well, the standard for horror's inclusion is supposed to be supernatural elements. That's of course subjective, and the murkiness (or inconsistent application of the standard) is compounded by cases of writers who vary between supernatural and non-supernatural from work to work or are "above a certain threshold". In this particular case, we have little from this author, and what I can judge of the book from the blurbs and the part available via Look Inside doesn't suggest anything close to truly supernatural, or even to seemingly supernatural. So my inclination is that we shouldn't include it. I know you're leaving it up to me, but this is a community effort, not a dictatorship, so let me know if you disagree with my thinking. If so, I'm open to reconsidering; otherwise, I'll reject it. Thanks. --MartyD 10:58, 4 February 2018 (EST)
I rejected it. We can always reconsider if we learn more about it in the future. Sorry about the extra work. --MartyD 12:51, 7 February 2018 (EST)
I'm not complaining, however this discussion has come up numerous times before, I know, I've been involved is several. See [1] as an example. The conclusion was that the atmosphere and attitude was as equally important as the speculative elements. Sometimes. Just look at all of those juvenile horror novels. Most were slashers and terror novels, ditto for the weird menace/shudder pulps. I'll go with the whole "it will be judged on a case-by-case basis" rule. Somebody who will eventually read this novel will have the last word. Thanx for explaining your viewpoint, time to move on, so many indie authors to investigate. MLB 21:00, 8 February 2018 (EST)

Brood Company

I'm holding your proposed variant of "Brood Company". You are varianting a short story to a person that has been solely an artist. Is this what you intended? Especially since the names don't match. -- JLaTondre (talk) 08:36, 4 February 2018 (EST)

No. MLB 14:45, 4 February 2018 (EST)
Cancelled the submission. MLB 15:01, 4 February 2018 (EST)

Safety Maid: Nancy Rose and After the Queens of the Sicarii

Why do you want to make the older title a variant of the later one? This is bound to give an error "publication date before title date".--Dirk P Broer 17:28, 8 February 2018 (EST)

You can of course alter the publication date of the main title too...--Dirk P Broer 18:16, 8 February 2018 (EST)

Wayside School

Hi. You verified undated paperback printings of the second and third books, publications 454676 and 454690.

1. In what sense are these books novels? Sachar presents the first one as a collection:

Introduction (viewed at Amazon as "Look inside" the 1998 hardcover): "This book contains thirty stories about the children and teachers at Wayside School. ... ... So there are thirty stories from the thirtieth story of Wayside School."

2. You cite LC catalog records that do not match the books. That of the second book does not match even the publisher. That of the third book matches the publisher at best; none of imprint, ISBN, and page-count.

--Pwendt|talk 15:20, 10 February 2018 (EST)

I'll correct what I can, but they were borrowed (hence the transient moniker), and that person no longer has them. MLB 21:33, 10 February 2018 (EST)
According to Amazon's readers for Wayside School Gets a Little Stranger they refer to this book as a novel, and not having read it, I won't argue with them. Wayside School Is Falling Down might be a collection, but until somebody has a physical copy to look at, I don't think it should be changed, you can do so if you want. No problem. The stories in these books can be interwoven short stories, or individual stories, again, I haven't read these books, just skimmed them when I listed them. Have eliminated one LCCN, but left the other. Sites like LCCN and Worldcat often get page numbers, and imprints (which can be transitory) wrong. Try listing Scholastic Books sometime. Those will slap their imprint on the back and front cover, but keep all the vitals from the original publishing house intact. The ISBN for Wayside School Gets a Little Stranger that I listed on this site, and the one on LCCN will both take you to the same book. Amazon, sadly enough, is not a bible. In the last ten years or so, I've posting reviews on them since 2009, I've seen ISBNS change, covers change, printing dates change, books disappear, and the raw data disappear or change, all overnite. If you want to delete the remaining LCCN, go ahead. MLB 22:56, 10 February 2018 (EST)
I changed the first book from NOVEL to COLLECTION before adding two more early publications. I did read its Introduction and Chapter One (and that's all from the series) as "Look inside" at Amazon yesterday. At Wikipedia these are called children's novels and I decided to ask for opinion there before making another such change here.
Concerning the library records, I was inclined to improve your 2nd and 3rd book publication records by linking appropriate WorldCat records. But that may be too much work, I think after yesterday experience with the three 20th century publications of book one.
Probably I will add the 1st eds. of your two books. That is my cup of tea, or bottle of beer, and I shouldn't spend time on more than that for recent works.
Thanks for the prompt reply. --Pwendt|talk 19:15, 11 February 2018 (EST)


Hi. I don't have time this morning to research it myself, but it occurs to me that you might be able to use "litRPG" or "litRPG Collective" (whatever's appropriate) as a publication series. In looking at the Look Inside, I'm wondering if the publisher should be "LitRPG Freaks", with Amazon Digital Services just the platform, a la self-publishing. Just quick ideas. --MartyD 06:54, 13 February 2018 (EST)

Mystic Warrior

I've had to cancel this submission. You were changing an earlier hc version to a later tp version. You need to clone it instead. -- JLaTondre (talk) 09:21, 18 February 2018 (EST)

Done. MLB 20:47, 18 February 2018 (EST)

Words from the Editors (Cemetery Dance)

Hello, I've simplified your submissions to "Editorial (Cemetery Dance)" as separating editorials by authors is not a thing that we seem to do (see here). There is already too much (IMHO of course) series and nested series and nested-nested series that some of our pages are nearly unreadable (like this extreme example).Hauck 05:32, 25 February 2018 (EST)

I certainly see your point. It would be a slippery slope best not traveled. MLB 17:40, 1 March 2018 (EST)
Thanks for that. Hauck 02:08, 2 March 2018 (EST)

Sisters of Tomorrow: The First Women of Science Fiction

Approved the update but have a few questions:

  • There are two "Lilith Lorraine" essays (pages 106 and 256). If they are the same, we will need to rename one and variant them. If they are not, can we add some identifier on one of them?
  • I did a lot of merging of the poems. Any chance you import them instead of adding them? You are obviously looking them up because you got the dates correctly and if you import, we do not need the extra steps (from the import screen, you can import a comma-separate list of IDs (the lower part of the screen). Less typing for you, less likely to make a typo, less work for the handling moderator or someone else later :)

Thanks! Annie 00:13, 26 March 2018 (EDT)

I'll fix the Lilith Lorraine entries, I also see that I didn't disambiguate any of the biographies, I'll have to do that to in the future. As to part two, honestly, it never occurred to me. To keep everything straight in my mind I just roll from A to Z in an effort to not make any mistakes. Of course, we all see how well that works. So, maybe I'll try it, but it does take an extra step. And third, no, the printing date is marked on every single entry in the book, cool eh? Wish every book was this clear on where and when each story was published. Anyway, thanks for the suggestions, I'll try to do better. MLB 03:08, 26 March 2018 (EDT)
Not a problem, they can be merged later :) I find it easier to import than to type but up to you so decided to mention it. Annie 03:15, 26 March 2018 (EDT)
Hello, I've rejected all the disambiguations and corrected the ones that were already present. We do dismabiguate when there is more there one strictly similar "Title/Author" couple. In this case, I've verified them all, there are no such ambiguities. I've also changed the Lilith Lorraine entries. Hauck 03:35, 26 March 2018 (EDT)
Thanks, now I know. MLB 04:16, 26 March 2018 (EDT)
I've merged the existing titles for your last submission, have a good night! (Here it's 10AM). Hauck 04:24, 26 March 2018 (EDT)
I've approved your latest submission, I've had to tweak some of your non-standard page numbers ("334A"), disambiguated one essay (I've also changed the X) section title format that our cleanup reports do not like) and merged what could be. Hauck 03:58, 27 March 2018 (EDT)
Okay, thanks. MLB 05:03, 27 March 2018 (EDT)
Took your cue and disambiguated the rest of the chapter titles. Added some notes to several of the entries, and with any luck I am now dune with this book and can move on. MLB 05:43, 27 March 2018 (EDT)

Legion of the Godhand

I accepted this one by mistake (was planning on a hold) - you have the title date as 2017-12-00 now and the earliest publication as 2016-01-04. Can you clarify all these dates? Thanks! Annie 22:03, 2 April 2018 (EDT)

It drives me crazy. uses the date of an earlier edition on the new publication, but Goodreads lists all editions and their dates, as far as I know. Picture a large handicapped man dancing about his front room tearing out his hair and banging his head against the walls. This the latter edition of Legion of the Godhand, and this is the original. I'm not even sure if the cover artist that is listed on Amazon is the right artist, but what can you do? You can only use the information that is given to you. I thought that I had updated the publishing information. My head hurts. MLB 22:21, 2 April 2018 (EDT)
I only discovered the earlier editions after I had listed the later one. MLB 22:23, 2 April 2018 (EDT)
Yeah but it was 2016 and you changed it to 2017. Looks like you hit the title instead of the publication - I've done that before. All looks ok now after I accepted the last batch of updates.  :) Amazon is... amusing sometimes. And sometimes I want to swear that it is plain crazy. It still is making things a lot easier than it would have been without it though... Annie 22:50, 2 April 2018 (EDT)

The publishers


When a work is independently published or only lists CreateSpace as a publisher, leave the publisher field empty or put the author name as a publisher. You can add the CreateSpace note in the notes if you want :) I edited the two Drowsy books that came in with "CreateSpace" and "Independently Published". Annie 14:19, 10 April 2018 (EDT)

Well, thanx. Now I know. Looks like your job is still safe from this corner of this Wiki site. MLB 18:57, 10 April 2018 (EDT)

Protected by the Damned

Fixed capitalization in the new series you just created. Unless there is a good reason not to, keeping these capitalized as expected makes it easier for anyone that adds the next books :) Annie 20:09, 10 April 2018 (EDT)

Thanx again. I was cutting and pasting and didn't notice. Just the second in the series. Note: I don't think Michael Todd exists. A duel pseudonym, I think, for Laurie Starkey and Michael Anderle. According to Starkey is known under several names, and I will have to clean that up on this site when I list the next two books in the Protected by the Damned series. MLB 20:26, 10 April 2018 (EDT)
No worries, you are welcome :) And have fun with all the pseudonyms and what's not - why cannot people just use their own names (I know, I know... where is the fun in that)? Annie 20:29, 10 April 2018 (EDT)
Copyright page of the fourth book in this series states that Michael Anderle is Michael Todd Anderle. Mystery solved. MLB 20:53, 10 April 2018 (EDT)
Great. And it is a bad day for your capitalization :) I just fixes "the" and "and" in one of the titles (no need to be capitalized) and "Is" in another (that one needs to be capitalized) :) Annie 21:10, 10 April 2018 (EDT)

Orphans in the Black


I cannot see a difference between your submission and this publication. Am I missing something? Thanks!Annie 03:06, 12 April 2018 (EDT)

Me neither. I just didn't notice the previous entry (**blush-blush**). I was just adding the page numbers. I'll cancel my submission and add the page numbers to the previous entry. MLB 03:11, 12 April 2018 (EDT)

Half Magic

Hi. You verified a copy of the Odyssey Classic ed., namely P488431. I believe the publication series is all trade paperback format, and the WorldCat record you cite reports size 20 cm, so I changed the format from pb to tp. --submitted, now in the queue

You note,

Copyright page lists the LOCN number 84-19816, but it doesn't lead to a page for this book.

Does the copyright page report Cataloging-In-Publication data for LCCN 84-19816, which is probably similar to most of the data displayed at (online format of same catalog record)? If so, this LCCN is intentional, and since it's also another publication of the same work, I would note

Copyright page gives CIP data for LCCN 84-19816, the 1982 Voyager/HBJ paperback ed. (ISBN 0156379902).
Copyright page gives CIP data for LCCN 84-19816, the 1982 Voyager/HBJ ed.

(The more informative if it were not in the database, but I noticed that this one is in[2].)

The initialism is LCCN for LC Catalog Number. The records are labeled "LC Online Catalog" but I suppose it's only one catalog and/or "LCOC" is confusing with "OCLC". --Pwendt|talk 17:57, 13 April 2018 (EDT)

P.S. I wonder what HBJ copyright in 1982, the cover illustration and design? --Pwendt|talk 17:59, 13 April 2018 (EDT)


Hi, in your verified copy of He Stepped Through you grant the He Stepped Through (cover art) to a certain Zack McCain, and you also mention that name in the notes. Me I think that it is Zach McCain -and Amazon does too: Can you please check? --Dirk P Broer 10:43, 21 April 2018 (EDT)

My antiquated computer is operated by steam, and it got sick this week, and I had to take time off to chop wood to burn to create the steam to run it. However, be that as it may, I do believe that you're right. I must of typed this entry up with my feet. Will correct. MLB 20:55, 22 April 2018 (EDT)

Analog title question

Hi, Mark! Do you think you could give us your input here on title conventions used in Analog, for which you contribute a lot? Thanks, Doug / Vornoff 15:13, 23 April 2018 (EDT)

Done. You got my two bits worth. MLB 22:18, 23 April 2018 (EDT)

review titles in Dead Reckonings #6

Hi -- By chance I happened to look at the publication record for Dead Reckonings #6 and noticed a lot of inconsistencies in how the unlinked reviews are given essay titles. Examples are: 1. Review of "Ennui and Other States of Madness" by David Niall Wilson 2. Review "The Man Who Collected Psychos: Critical Essays on Robert Bloch" by Benjamin Szumskyj 3. Review of _D. D. Murphry, Secret Policeman_ (Clark & Massie) [contrary to DB practices for how to enter italics in titles; are the underscores in the magazine?] . Is there anything there you want to correct? --Vasha 09:42, 28 April 2018 (EDT)

Yes, I will correct these in the near future. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. MLB 18:44, 28 April 2018 (EDT)

The Paupers' Graveyard


Approved the addition but did a few changes:

  • Added the missing ' after Paupers. Amazon drops it in their title for some reason (I am submitting a correction to them now...) but it is there on the cover and in the Look inside and in WorldCat so I would say that it is there :)
  • Cleaned up the image address (it contained all the amazon sizing instructions)
  • Fixed the note to say 2018-04-29 and not 2018-02-29 - it is April (believe it or not) and 2/29 did not exist this year :)

Result is here. Annie 02:36, 30 April 2018 (EDT)

I also connected the review :) Would you mind checking where the apostrophe in this one is? Typo in the magazine or in our record? Annie 02:41, 30 April 2018 (EDT)
This entry is driving me crazy. This is a magazine that went walkabout after the reorganization of this household after the Queen Mum's death two years ago (RIP mom), so I'm reconstructing the best I can, but who knows?, it could turn up tomorrow. Two, somebody did some considerable editing on this submission other than me, without telling me, including adding reviews as essays, and adding _ underlining marks _, which I've never used. I've re-edited quite a bit here, and I'm sure I missed something else. I'm just about to write this submission off. Oh well, let me know if there any more mistakes. MLB 04:08, 30 April 2018 (EDT)
I suspect that the reviews -> essays had been someone cleaning up (and choosing to convert as opposed to adding the books and connecting the reviews as most people would.... Not good that you were never notified though and cannot even think of why someone would add underlines (unless we have some copy/paste mistake somewhere). Anyway - thanks for taking care of this one :( Annie 13:14, 30 April 2018 (EDT)


Fixed the ISBN (you somehow missed a number "5" in the middle), the language (from English to German) and the translator (when looking at German records, look for Übersetzer; Herausgeber means Editor (that's what Raulf) is here). I also changed the Translated note to use the template and copied it to the title level and added the DNB and OCLC numbers (while I was checking there anyway) :) The result is here and its title here. Annie 20:21, 30 April 2018 (EDT)

PS: The pub series is "Heyne Hardcore" and not "Heyne Hard Core" so fixed this here and in the other 2 that I suspect you added earlier. And did the variant. I think that this book is now looking as it is supposed to :) Annie 20:25, 30 April 2018 (EDT)
Thanks. Moderators like you make editors like me look less of an idiot than I really am. But, now I know. MLB 20:37, 30 April 2018 (EDT)
We cannot know all the languages - I just happen to know where to look for German and as I can see that you are working on translations lately, figured I might as well mention what to look for in a record. .:) Annie 20:46, 30 April 2018 (EDT)
One note on translators: would you mind using the {{Tr|Name of translator}} template instead of free-texting when adding the translator (it is a preparation for supporting translators one day) and we need this information in the title note (if you want it in the pub note as well, that's fine) - so that if a second German edition is added, we know if we need to merge (same translator) or leave it as a new variant (new translation) without needing to open each publication. :) Annie 22:33, 30 April 2018 (EDT)
Now you tell me. I need a drink. Or two. :) MLB 22:52, 30 April 2018 (EDT)
I have added the price and changed the format & page count according to the information stated at the more correct DNB (amazon counts all the pages, DNB states the last numbered one). Thanks, Stonecreek 03:25, 1 May 2018 (EDT)
I though I got the price but apparently missed this one. Thanks for getting that one sorted out Christian. Annie 14:01, 1 May 2018 (EDT)

The TM thingie

You find it somewhere online such as here and copy it from there :) Here it is if you want to save it for future references: ™ And I fixed it in the title. Annie 23:38, 3 May 2018 (EDT)

Thanx, now I know, I think. MLB 23:56, 3 May 2018 (EDT)


I added "Hexenhaus" in your verified publication Dark Discoveries #29 to the series "The Normal and Nadine Adventures" based on it being described as part of a series in the author's latest collection. --Vasha 16:12, 4 May 2018 (EDT)

Oh, cool. Always good to know about these minor series. MLB 18:50, 4 May 2018 (EDT)

SF Conventional Calendar

I just entered the contents of the May-June issue of Asimov's, and YES, I FORGOT, I will add the above, and a cover image when, and if, my initial entry is accepted. So don't tell me I messed up, I know, I know already. MLB 20:48, 4 May 2018 (EDT)

May/June 2018 Asimov's

I approved your entry of the issue. I think one of the authors of this story may be a typo and is perhaps this guy as listed on the magazine's website. Could you double check? Thanks --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 07:27, 5 May 2018 (EDT)

I was only waiting for my submission to be accepting so I could finish the job. So: Image added, spelling mistake corrected, column titles added, missing content added, and magazine waiting to be merged. Only thing left is for me to add a book to the database so I can link a book with the review. Will, have to wait though, it's eight o'clock ayem, and I need my beauty coma. Will do that later. MLB 07:57, 5 May 2018 (EDT)
Oops, looks like the book was already there, the name was Christopher Brown (I) and so I didn't see it. Review linked, and now, good-night one and all, looks like my job here is done. MLB 08:01, 5 May 2018 (EDT)

Excerpt titles in Tales from the Crossroad

Hi. I accepted your Tales from the Crossroad submission and saw your note about the excerpts. What you did to recording them as listed is fine; recording what's in the publication is appropriate. That said, I think for most (all?) of them, the trailing " (excerpt)" could and should be omitted. The purpose of the parenthetical in "TITLE (excerpt)" is to disambiguate the excerpt from the full work when the excerpt is published using the same title as that full work. When the excerpt is published with a different -- and in this case, spot-on explanatory -- title such as "Exerpt: TITLE..." or "Preview of TITLE..." or "Chapter X from TITLE...", there's no need for further disambiguation. --MartyD 12:07, 6 May 2018 (EDT)

Canadian $ question

You verified this [3] as having a C$8.99 while my copy says C$6.99.Could you check please if it is a variant though it seems unlikely.Don Erikson 16:08, 8 May 2018 (EDT)

Blood Wings

Cover artist Jim Thiesen found for this pub on this website. --Zapp 05:49, 13 May 2018 (EDT)

Paul Seiple's The Great Dying books

Sorry I didn't get back to you re: these submissions yesterday; there was a lot going on.

After approving the 5 chapbook submissions, I checked Amazon. I saw the author saying that it was a "series of stories", so I converted the SERIAL titles to SHORTFICTION. However, now that we have their combined version on file (as well as the 2017 sequel), I agree with your original classification. I have converted the SHORTFICTION titles back to SERIALs and set them up as variants of the novel title. Hopefully everything looks OK and sorry about the confusion! Ahasuerus 12:13, 13 May 2018 (EDT)

P.S. Also, I removed the disambiguators from the SERIAL titles as per Help:Use of the SERIAL type:

  • If the title of a SERIAL part is unique, e.g. "Butterflies in the Kremlin, Part Eight: As the Bear Turns" or "Ciężki bój (cz. 1)", then use the full form of the title. If, on the other hand, the title is shared by all SERIAL installments, append a parenthetical statement such as "(Part 1 of 3)", preceded by a space, to the title.

Ahasuerus 13:20, 13 May 2018 (EDT)

Let's Get Invisible!

Hi, could it be You forgot to verify this pub? --Zapp 08:45, 19 May 2018 (EDT)

I guess so, how could you tell it was mine? MLB 15:24, 19 May 2018 (EDT)
Because You uploaded the cover scan. ;) --Zapp 16:20, 4 June 2018 (EDT)

Jon Hrfstrom vs Jon Arfstrom

Hi, I think that Jon Hrfstrom, artist of Cartoon: Untitled in Mystic Magazine, January 1954 is either a typo for Jon Arfstrom or you may have misread his autograph. Could you please check?--Dirk P Broer 18:01, 19 May 2018 (EDT)

Misread it seems. Corrected. MLB 20:41, 19 May 2018 (EDT)

Review of Starry Wisdom Library in Dark Discoveries #30

Hi. Would you please see this discussion about the review of Starry Wisdom Library in your verified Dark Discoveries #30? Thanks. --MartyD 21:58, 20 May 2018 (EDT)

The Prentice Hall Anthology of Science Fiction and Fantasy

Hello Mark,

I just approved the addition of a missing story: 320 • The Malaysian Mer • (1982) • short story by Jane Yolen in your verified - all I could find indicates that the story is indeed there. Can you check anyway (just in case) and if it is not, I can reverse it. Thanks! Annie 19:27, 22 May 2018 (EDT)

This was a textbook for a class that I took, and I created this listing from scratch, so I'm not surprised that I missed something. Having suffered a knee injury, this book is in storage, so it might take time to get to it. I trust you though, if you say it's there then I believe you until I can dig up the original text. MLB 22:06, 22 May 2018 (EDT)
It's in all online content lists I could find and it fits based on its date. No table of content anywhere that I can get my hands on - I need to check my library eventually. It is also on my list of books to track down one day. Easy to remove it if it somehow managed to make it on all lists but not to the book. I hope your knee get better quickly. :) Annie 23:43, 22 May 2018 (EDT)
Look for it cheap. I had to buy it, and because it's meant to be a textbook it's way way, way overpriced. Check it out from a library first. MLB 15:32, 23 May 2018 (EDT)
That’s the plan. I tend to buy books when I want them but that one is a bit too expensice for what it is. Textbooks pricing is just maddening. Annie 16:27, 23 May 2018 (EDT)
Just looked it up on Amazon, and I damn near pooped my pants, a new copy could cost you $191.40. Maybe if it were a little cheaper they'd sell more copies. MLB 17:00, 23 May 2018 (EDT)

Earthblood and Other Stories

Earthblood and Other Stories; A Note states that the Library of Congress Catalog Data is 200703971. Shouldn’t this reference be: 2007038971? --AndyjMo 09:22, 30 May 2018 (EDT)

Yep, you are 100% right. Will change. MLB 21:40, 31 May 2018 (EDT)

Secret in The Sky

My copy has 'Kenneth Robeson' as the author. I'd like to update the pub if you agree. TAWeiss 23:26, 1 June 2018 (EDT)

Go right ahead. Don't know how I got it wrong. MLB 02:24, 2 June 2018 (EDT)
I accepted that change to the pub and also removed the Dent-credited title and replaced it with the Robeson-credited variant. --MartyD 11:13, 2 June 2018 (EDT)

Gerald Kersh

You may know Harlan Ellison has a site dedicated to Gerald Kersh, and it has a wealth of bibliographic detail (eg. here and here) which I would like to use to enhance our records. This would probably alter some of the detail in publications you have verified, eg. more accurate dates for The Secret Masters/The Great Wash and some of his collections. Also, given the great amount of genre short fiction we have for him, would you consider Kersh to be 'above the threshold' as I do? I would like to add the non-genre short stories that are included in his many collections, but I want to get other verifiers opinions first. Given his standing as a highly respected genre author I think our biblio page for him is lacking and ought to more resemble that of Kurt Vonnegut, who also has a large number of non-genre short stories listed. What do you think? PeteYoung 13:10, 3 June 2018 (EDT)

Not a great reader of Kersh anymore as his stuff is hard to get a hold of. Still, if I remember correctly, much of his stuff fell into the dark suspense genre, which is a borderline horror genre at times. Still, I'm not as familiar with Kersh's stuff as I should be, but, I have no problem with your suggestion. MLB 19:46, 3 June 2018 (EDT)

Translations in Skeleton Keys

In Skeleton Keys, could you confirm whether "The Queen of Spades" is translated by Rosemary Edmonds or someone else? Also, who translated "Stone from the Stars"? Thanks. --Vasha 15:46, 12 June 2018 (EDT)

youtube link in Farenheit 451

Hi. The youtube link in the submission I have on hold doesn't really seem appropriate as a link with more information about that title. But I've been known to be dense: Am I missing something? Thanks. --MartyD 22:17, 12 June 2018 (EDT)

"The Dom" as he likes to be called, runs a site that compares the novel and the filmed version of the same novel. On this episode, he talks extensively about the novel, then discusses how the sixties movie compares to the novel, such as what from the novel was kept in the movie, what was changed, and what was totally excised. There is a great deal of the novel discussed here. True, the filmatic essay was created as entertainment, but it is still a real discussion of a book into a film. I liked it, but, ultimately, the final arbitrator will be you. I just attempted to list it, and now I've moved on. There's some surprising things to be found on Youtube. Check out Morgan Scorpions narrations of Dark Fantasy stories sometime. Anyway, thanks for asking. MLB 22:31, 12 June 2018 (EDT)
P.S.: The woman on this episode is just a guest host. MLB 22:34, 12 June 2018 (EDT)
Ok, good enough for me. --MartyD 07:44, 13 June 2018 (EDT)

The Traveler (Tom Abrahams)

So is it "The Traveler (Tom Abrahams)" as you set it on the first 4 books or "The Traveller (Tom Abrahams)" as you added it on the last 2 (I corrected to a single l to connect them again but thought I should come and ask :) Annie 00:30, 14 June 2018 (EDT)

Spelling is not my strong suite, but yes, one "el". MLB 12:58, 14 June 2018 (EDT)
Everyone makes typos - some days I feel like that is all I am doing :) The funny part here is that my mind screams that it should be double "l" (the British spelling) and not a single one (the American one) - I was taught British English first. :)
Then we are good - I left a single "l" there. Thanks for the confirmation. :) Annie 13:02, 14 June 2018 (EDT)

Firefly Non-Fiction

I approved this Edit Title submission a few minutes ago, but then it occurred to me that one of the publications was primary-verified by User:Nihonjoe. Should we ask him what he thinks about putting these essays in a series? Ahasuerus 15:07, 28 June 2018 (EDT)

I see that the rest of your "Firefly Non-Fiction" submissions have been approved in the meantime. I'll go ahead and leave a note on Nihonjoe's Talk page in case he wants to review the book/series. Ahasuerus 15:41, 28 June 2018 (EDT)
OK, apparently I do not need to leave the similar notes - they had been sitting here and not being submitted for a few hours (oops). Annie 15:49, 28 June 2018 (EDT)
No worries! Whether we have these essays organized as a series or leave them as standalones is a relatively minor issue; I am sure Nihonjoe will chime in soon enough. Ahasuerus 16:01, 28 June 2018 (EDT)
I'm fine with organizing them into a series, though shouldn't all of them in that book be in the series? Also, I created a meta series, Firefly Universe, so they could be organized together with the fiction. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 16:55, 28 June 2018 (EDT)
And further into Firefly Essays. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 17:00, 28 June 2018 (EDT)
MLB had been doing them in batches so I suspect that it is still work in progress... :) Ping him and ask him if you want? Annie 17:14, 28 June 2018 (EDT)
This is on his talk page, so I'm sure he'll notice. :) ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 17:16, 28 June 2018 (EDT)
Do'h. Of course it is - why would I glance at the top of the screen... :) I seem to be having a weird day where titles of pages are concerned. Annie 17:24, 28 June 2018 (EDT)
Mom always said I'd grow up to be trouble. Sorry about all of this fuss. MLB 18:32, 28 June 2018 (EDT)
No problem whatsoever! Everything got sorted out quickly and efficiently and we now have a brand spanking new series! Ahasuerus 21:05, 28 June 2018 (EDT)
I looked up an author, found that she had edited an anthology of Firefly essays, so I looked around and found more non-fiction books on the television series and thought that I would put them into the Firefly Non-Fiction listing, which was already there. I was doing this in segments as I know everybody works here for free. I think. I try to keep my submissions in small batches as I don't want to overwhelm and/or annoy any moderator. I still have a few Serenity items to add to this list. In the end, I think that anybody looking for Firefly/Serenity materials, outside of game books, should find this page helpful. I'm just hoping I'm not stepping on anyone's feet. MLB 18:32, 28 June 2018 (EDT)
By-the-way, when I finish putting the rest of the essays into the Firefly Essays, should I then import these essay listings into the other editions of this book? MLB 18:38, 28 June 2018 (EDT)

Thrilling Wonder Stories: Adventure House Reprints

Hi, Mark! The first two titles in this series are indexed as MAGAZINES, while the rest are catalogued as ANTHOLOGIES. But shouldn't they be all of the same type (and it seems to me they are of the latter type). Christian Stonecreek 11:23, 5 July 2018 (EDT)

Yes. Period. I was sloppy, I'll change. MLB 00:05, 6 July 2018 (EDT)

Brandy Leah Schwan

I'm holding several edits to make poems by Brandy Leah Schwan variants of new titles by "Brandy Schwan". We currently have "Brandy Leah Schwan" as the canonical name with "Brandy Schwan" as the pseudonym and making these variants is the reverse of that relationship. This could make sense if you are attempting to make "Brandy Schwan" the canonical title and these were the first edits of a multi edit process. However, since 12 out of the 15 poems we have listed are by "Brandy Leah Schwan", the relationship of canonical to pseudonym seems correct. Is there something else that I'm missing that you are trying to accomplish? Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 09:26, 15 July 2018 (EDT)

The website that goes with the author is in the name of Brandy Leah Schwan, just like the majority of the work we have for her too.--Dirk P Broer 18:50, 15 July 2018 (EDT)
Cancelled my submissions. She seems to have published her poetry collections under the Brandy Schwan name, but not having seen them in person, I don't know what's on the title page. MLB 20:18, 15 July 2018 (EDT)


I approved Il branco, but a couple of notes on entering translations:

  1. When entering a new pub that is a translation, please be sure to enter the translator(s) in the title notes field.
  2. When entering a translator, please enter using the translator template: {{TR|NAME}}. This is to allow future implementation of a translator field.

Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 10:00, 21 July 2018 (EDT)

New stuff to learn all of the time. Okay. MLB 19:22, 21 July 2018 (EDT)

K. H. Vaugh(a)n

Could you check Dark Discoveries #26 and see if K. H. Vaughan's name is really printed "Vaughn" on page 104? Thanks. --Vasha (cazadora de tildes) 17:35, 24 July 2018 (EDT)

I'm pretty sure that you're right and it was a ham-fisted typo. Will double check soon. Unlike many of my books, I know where this one is at. MLB 01:53, 27 July 2018 (EDT)

The Ultimax Man

I'm replacing the Amazon cover and cleaning up the notes of this pub [4]. Thanks, Sjmathis 09:40, 26 July 2018 (EDT)

Asimov's Science Fiction, July-August 2018

See my suggestion here. --Zapp 10:45, 28 July 2018 (EDT)

This seems to be your special field of interest, not mine, so I'll take your word for it. MLB 04:25, 29 July 2018 (EDT)

Dead of Night #13, Summer 1995


You have two interior art records from Koszowski in Dead of Night #13, Summer 1995 - one on page 25 and one on the back cover. We need to disambiguate them somehow - either by a name change or something else (and if they are the same, variant the two records). Thanks! Annie 11:14, 30 July 2018 (EDT)

I think that ought to do it. MLB 14:02, 30 July 2018 (EDT)

All-American Horror of the 21st Century: The First Decade 2000-2010

I have approved this submission and made the following changes as per Amazon's Look Inside:

  • Changed F. Paul Wilson's "Night Drive" to "Night Dive"
  • Changed "Mart Powers" to "Mark Powers"
  • Merged various duplicates
  • Turned "Steagal's Barber Shoppe and Smoke Emporium" into a variant of "Steagal's Barbershoppe and Smoke Emporium"

A couple of questions:

  • Would you happen to know if John Everson's novel The Pumpkin Man and his stories "Pumpkin Head" and "The Pumpkin Man" are related?
  • Amazon's Look Inside is based on a scan of the 2016 edition. Are we sure that the 2013 edition used the same page numbers?

Ahasuerus 12:22, 1 August 2018 (EDT)

I noticed the mistakes but awaited the approval of my submission to correct them, otherwise I would have had to do it all over again. Thanks.
HellifIknow. Not much of a reader of Everson. While I have read some of his stuff, I've neither read, nor do I own, any of the of the "Pumpkin Man" stuff.
No, I don't know, and you know what they say about assuming. Do you want me to delete the page numbers? MLB 17:41, 1 August 2018 (EDT)
I think it would be safer to delete the page numbers. You know how publishers can be when reprinting books: sometimes things change and other times they don't. Thanks! Ahasuerus 18:27, 1 August 2018 (EDT)

Battle Scars

Wanted to let you know I submitted change to notes for your verified pub Battle Scars as follows: oclc moved + statement removed that no WorldCat records existed at time of listing. I verified today, and now WorldCat record 874762367 shows book is carried in several libraries. MagicUnk 12:25, 9 August 2018 (EDT)

Alright, thanks. MLB 18:19, 9 August 2018 (EDT)

Unexpected World

Just a note to let you know that the Amazon API confirms that this publication doesn't have an ISBN. Unfortunately, in most cases Amazon doesn't display ISBNs for e-books even if they exist, so we have to check programmatically. There is a weekly reconciliation process in place. Ahasuerus 14:39, 15 August 2018 (EDT)

Okay. Must have done so by accident. MLB 02:47, 16 August 2018 (EDT)
Sorry, I must not have been clear. Your submission didn't include an ISBN. I was just confirming that, according to Amazon's internal data, there is no ISBN associated with the book.
The problem with ebooks is that even though some of them do have ISBNs, Amazon only displays ebook ASINs -- but not ISBNs -- on its Web pages. You have to query their internal database programmatically to see if an ebook has an ISBN in addition to an ASIN. It's clearly a part of their plot to take over the galaxy! :-) Ahasuerus 09:19, 16 August 2018 (EDT)

Weiblich, ledig, untot

Your PV pub is the only one of publisher Lyx / Egmont. All the others with the same Logo oncover are of LXY. Maybe it's to think about changing? --Zapp 05:54, 26 August 2018 (EDT)

Will do. MLB 20:33, 26 August 2018 (EDT)

Cafe Purgatorium review in Midnight Zoo v2n3

I think the Cafe Purgatorium review in Midnight Zoo v2n3 should use "Charles de Lint" instead of "Charles DeLint", with the discrepancy noted (if the "DeLint" is accurate). We have no other instances of the latter. --MartyD 10:53, 8 September 2018 (EDT)

Okay, just copying down what I saw. MLB 10:55, 8 September 2018 (EDT)

Man or Men?

Hi, Mark Louis! Could you please take a look at the C. Stuart Hardwick shortfiction on p. 83 of Analog 9/16? There's a 2018 reprinted story by him with nearly the same title. Thanks, Christian Stonecreek 09:25, 15 September 2018 (EDT)

I will try to track it down. MLB 16:47, 15 September 2018 (EDT)

Gutenberg Links

There is no point to adding Gutenberg links. Since they are specific to an individual publication, they don't really belong at the title level. Also, the Gutenberg publications automatically link to the Project Gutenberg website. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 16:55, 15 September 2018 (EDT)

John Victor Peterso

I went ahead and changed it to John Victor Peterson. The only thing visible in the Amazon Look Inside is the copyright page and we credit per the title page. It is likely the typo was only on the copyright statement and the title page is correct. In that case, it's not worth waiting until it is verified to correct it. If someone gets the book and finds the title page is wrong also, the pseudonym can be created at that time. I added a note regarding the issue to the pub notes. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 08:52, 16 September 2018 (EDT)

That's fine with me, but if you were to check the trade paperback version you would see how sloppy Positronic Press is. MLB 16:47, 16 September 2018 (EDT)

Matching Variants

When we have variants that match (title, language, & pseudonym), we merge the variants together. We don't have duplicate variants under the same parent. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 17:40, 17 September 2018 (EDT)

typo in Asimov's, Mar-Apr 2018

In Asimov's, March-April 2018 the title of the story on page 96 is perhaps-erroneously given as "Seven Months Out an Two to Go" --Vasha (cazadora de tildes) 12:01, 19 September 2018 (EDT)

Fixed. MLB 16:23, 19 September 2018 (EDT)

The Barbarians


I just rejected this one. Same title, same author name, same language - that should be a merge and not a variant. Or am I missing something? Thanks! Annie 21:39, 2 October 2018 (EDT)

It's been published as by John Sentry and John A. Sentry, technically different names. Personally, I would trust Psychotronic Publishing as far as I could throw them, but John Sentry is the name this story is listed under on Amazon. MLB 21:43, 2 October 2018 (EDT)
But you are trying to variant the two parents (these two records have the author set as Algis Budrys - created to get the stories into the proper author page), not the two Sentry records. They need to be merged - that will put both their children (the two Sentry records under the same parent - the newly merged record). If we variant them, then we will need to go and delete the one that is now a child (and I don't like doing two actions when I can do just one) :) Annie 21:48, 2 October 2018 (EDT)
Oh. ***blush-blush*** I'm so embarrassed. MLB 21:50, 2 October 2018 (EDT)
Done. Now I know. MLB 21:51, 2 October 2018 (EDT)
Approved. Variant + delete would have done the same - but a merge is still cleaner and does not require a follow up. Thanks for the fast reaction! Annie 21:54, 2 October 2018 (EDT)

"My Base Pair" in May/June Analog

According to Rocket Stack Rank "My Base Pair" on page 101 of this year's May/June Analog is 9,493 words long although labeled "short story" in the magazine ... please check this and correct the DB if necessary --Vasha (cazadora de tildes) 07:23, 23 October 2018 (EDT)

Addendum: typo alerts: "A Barrow for the Living" in May/June p. 118; "The Unnecessary Parts of the Story" in Sept/Oct p. 58 --Vasha (cazadora de tildes) 07:36, 23 October 2018 (EDT)

Yes, stupid me :(. I corrected the typos for "A Barrow for the Living" and "The Unnecessary Parts of the Story". "My Base Pair" is listed as a short story in the magazine. I have no intention of checking the wordage of every story in every magazine, collection, or anthology that I list. I just have to take the editor's word for it. Honestly, I have seen novelettes as (X) pages long, while an accompanying short story 1½ times as long. That's a insane number of mountains of words to check, and I don't want to take a trip to arrive at the mountains of madness. MLB 19:56, 23 October 2018 (EDT)
I certainly agree that one should not normally check lengths if the editors are helpful enough to tell you the length class! But my point was that RSR said, giving an alleged exact word count, that there's an error in the magazine. It should be not too hard to verify by eyeballing the pages whether the story is really a full 2,000 words over the short story limit; then put the real length into the DB with a note of the error in the magazine. I would do it myself except I don't know where to get a copy of the magazine. --Vasha (cazadora de tildes) 20:18, 23 October 2018 (EDT)

Beastmaster: Symbiosis


Can you check your BN number in this one? It does not find anything on Barnes and Noble... Is it by any chance another type of identifier? GoodReads? OCLC? Something else? Annie 21:34, 24 October 2018 (EDT)

Ah what a dope am I. Fixed. MLB 21:38, 24 October 2018 (EDT)
Happens to us all. Approved :) Annie 21:51, 24 October 2018 (EDT)

Flotsam submissions

Hi. There were three submissions by you of new novels, Flotsam. I accepted this one, but the other two I have on hold because they look like duplicates due to a double re-submit. Let me know if I'm missing something -- it certainly would not be the first time! --MartyD 16:42, 4 November 2018 (EST)

No, you got it right. A recent computer melt-down has me working on a new computer with sub-par programs. For some reason, it sometimes duplicates submissions. I usually catch them, but I guess I didn't this time. I'll add the alternate (ebook and audio) versions a little later. I'll delete the other submissions and then link the review. MLB 17:17, 4 November 2018 (EST)


Can you check your BN link here? It does not lead to a valid page. Is it because your IDs are not the ones we expect or is something else going on? Thanks! Annie 22:18, 4 November 2018 (EST)

Looks like I've been copying the wrong number all of this time. Unless somebody's got a good suggestion on how to fix this, I got a lot of repairwork to do. MLB 22:36, 4 November 2018 (EST)
Can you post here the correct page for that book and I will see if I can rig something up to find the correct link for the rest of the ones we have? We have less than 1K BN identifiers in the DB so if I know what I am looking at, that won't take that long and there may be a way to automate a bit... Annie 23:05, 4 November 2018 (EST)
here is the page and what I was doing was copying the first number instead of the second. I hate this. MLB 23:22, 4 November 2018 (EST)
We have some good news - most if not all the valid ones start with 294 (that's the BN ISBN-ish start) - which catches 513 from the BN ones we have in the DB. There are 106 starting with 1 and a handful in the higher numbers. There are 2 in the starting with two that are not 294 ones - these two will take digging but I will find them (or we can ignore them until someone stumbles on them). Leave these with me this/next week - I am traveling so not sure if I will get to them tomorrow but I will clear them up. I'll do a spot check on the 294 ones but I am pretty sure they are in the clear. Will ping you if I cannot find something :) Annie 23:38, 4 November 2018 (EST)
Bless you. I don't know how to thank you (but, no, you can't have my bank account number) :). MLB 01:45, 5 November 2018 (EST)
No worries at all. One thing I discovered while digging - we need a BN number recorded only if the book does not have an ISBN or it differs from the ISBN for some reason - this is an EAN number that seems to be the same as ISBN13 when it exists. Which means that if you see one starting with 978/979, we do not need it in the BN field - the standard links work for those; we need only the 294 ones :). Should make everyone's life easier...
On a related note, I tracked down the two non 294 ones that started with 2 - turned out to be Goodreads and not BN IDs coded as BN ones :) I will keep working on the ones that do not fit the pattern. Annie 02:23, 5 November 2018 (EST)

(unindent) Took me a bit longer to get to them than I thought but these are all cleaned now :) Annie 21:44, 10 December 2018 (EST)

Old queries

I am going through my watchlist looking for unanswered queries. There are three on your page that may have slipped your mind: this, this, and this. For the first two, if you can't find your copy of those publications, I think it'd be OK to go ahead and fix them anyway. The third one's not all that important ... --Vasha (cazadora de tildes) 11:32, 6 November 2018 (EST)

The Witch of Blackbird Pond

Please come participate in this discussion. Thanks! ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 15:04, 15 November 2018 (EST) Since it was decided that this book does not contain any speculative fiction elements, here's the publication information if you wish to keep it:

  • Publication: The Witch of Blackbird Pond Publication Record # 580177 [Edit]
  • Author: Elizabeth George Speare
  • Date: 1973-01-00
  • Catalog ID: 9577
  • Publisher: Dell
  • Price: $0.75
  • Pages: 223
  • Format: pb
  • Type: NOVEL
  • Notes:
    • Printing history:
      • First Dell printing—April 1971
      • Second Dell Printing—August 1971
      • Third Dell Printing—October 1971
      • Fourth Dell printing—March 1972
      • Fifth Dell printing—July 1972
      • Sixth Dell printing—September 1972
      • Seventh Dell printing—January 1973
    • No number line
    • The artist is not credited, no visible signature on the artwork
    • Printed in the US
  • External IDs:
    • OCLC/WorldCat: 779053205

···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 13:52, 19 November 2018 (EST)

Thanks for the information. MLB 15:04, 19 November 2018 (EST)

Sister Satan


Are you sure this is not the same as this? Same date, same ISBN. I can see the different publisher but I just cannot imagine two publishers publishing the same book in pb at the same time with the same ISBN? What do you think? Annie 01:31, 16 November 2018 (EST)

Banner of Truth, like BMI, or Book Margins was an instant remainder arm of Leisure. I remember walking into drugstores and big retailers here in Michigan, and seeing bins of books, westerns, romances, sf, horror, mysteries all tossed in there under either the Banner of Truth, or the BMI imprint, and ALL were former Leisure, Love Spell, or Dorchester books. Dorchester was known for many shady deals, they started off as a tax dodge as a porn publisher, dealing with their properties. They were being sued by many people when they finally gave up the ghost. There was a lot written about them on the internet and in the fan/semi-prozines during their last days. It all happened before you arrived on our shores I believe. It wouldn't be the first time either. During the seventies Gold Key and Charlton Comics published assorted comics under a different name and sold them in big retail stores in remainder plastic bags, Belmont (or was it McFadden?) published a special "4 for a dollar" bunch of paperbacks that were only sold in K-Mart stores, hence the "4 for a dollar" stick printed right on the cover, Zebra Books were printed under a different name in Canada (I got some), the whole Belmont/Unibooks thing. And those are just off the top of my head. It wasn't unusual for the shady lower tier companies to publish knock off of their own books. So, yes they would. I need a life. MLB 05:19, 16 November 2018 (EST)
There is a Banner of Truth site here, but I hardly think that they were the publisher mentioned. MLB 05:37, 16 November 2018 (EST)
Also if you want to learn more about some of the shady things Leisure/Dorchester was involved in check this out. Most of the info about Dorchester has been scrubbed from the internet. MLB 06:58, 16 November 2018 (EST)
Thanks for the explanation. :) Submission approved. I will update the publisher's notes later today so that the next person does not end up wondering what is going on. I had read some of those stories through the years but between growing up elsewhere and never seeing a fanzine until a few years ago, I miss some of the backstory :) Annie 13:57, 16 November 2018 (EST)

Audible ASINs


Audible Audiobooks have two ASINs - the one that Amazon shows (this one still goes into the ASIN field); and the one you can find by going into Audible - which goes into the Audible ASIN field. I edited this one - moved the one you had in the Audible field to the ASIN one and added the real Audible one. Annie 22:56, 16 November 2018 (EST)

Fixed the rest that you submitted in the last batch as well. :) Annie 23:00, 16 November 2018 (EST)

Call for Obstruction

You are editing the tp version to make it into an ebook. Did you mean to clone instead? The current record appears valid. -- JLaTondre (talk) 17:01, 20 November 2018 (EST)

Yes, I'll cancel my submission. MLB 17:12, 20 November 2018 (EST)

Scierogenous II submission

Hi. Sorry, but the system forced me to reject your Scierogenous II submission because one of the contained titles present when you cloned it is gone (probably the subject of a previously-submitted merge that was accepted). You'll need to redo it. You should be able to get at all of the information in the submission. Let me know if you can't, and I can get it for you. I don't have time this morning to do it myself. --MartyD 06:10, 21 November 2018 (EST)

Tales of Mystery and Terror, Edgar Allan Poe and Marjorie P. Katz (1994 & 2008)

Hi, I've imported content for your verified copies of Tales of Mystery and Terror (1994) and Tales of Mystery and Terror (2008) from Tales of Mystery and Terror (unknown).--Dirk P Broer 11:27, 4 December 2018 (EST)

Okey dokey, thanks for letting me know that I was of use. MLB 19:10, 4 December 2018 (EST)

Tales of the Unanticipated #30

Hi -- I'm trying to figure out whether the K. C. Wilder who has a poem in your verified publication Tales of the Unanticipated #30 is this one or this one; it presumably must be the former, the poet/musician rather than the novelist, but I'd like confirmation. Could you check the bio information and also see if the name is printed with or without periods (the poet/musician doesn't use periods usually). Thanks. --Vasha (cazadora de tildes) 19:18, 7 December 2018 (EST)

Five years is a long time in dog years, and a lot has happened around here since then. I really don't know where it is, but I too suspect that it is the former, but I just don't know. I can try and do some research on this author but right now I am a bit busy. MLB 19:50, 7 December 2018 (EST)
Well, I presume it would be OK if I assumed the author was K. C. Wilder the poet and not K. C. Wilder (I) the writer of a young-adult paranormal novel and kept it filed on the former author page. No need to look it up. thanks. --Vasha (cazadora de tildes) 19:55, 7 December 2018 (EST)

Factor Four Magazine

Hi, I have put your submission for updating an issue on hold as you give an unusual page count (i+56), which is quite impossible per our rules. Can you give the actual structure of the page count? Christian Stonecreek 10:39, 13 December 2018 (EST)

In Amazon's "Look Inside" feature, the Notes From the Editor page is listed as being on page "i". However, the "Look Inside" feature doesn't show that page, so I only listed "i" as I don't know how many actual pages that this introductory article actually has. I guess the primary verifier will have to put the correct page number. I was just updating the Hayley Stone page when I came across this magazine. That's the long and short of everything. MLB 18:19, 13 December 2018 (EST)

Venom vs Vicious?

You recently entered 696420, the title of which does not match the show cover. Can you check? MagicUnk 01:36, 14 December 2018 (EST)

Dammit, dammit, dammit. You're definitely right. Will correct immediately. Thanks for catching that. MLB 02:37, 14 December 2018 (EST)

Analog, April 2016

Contacting you as a verifier of Analog, April 2016. Various secondary sources say that issue contains "Lonely Hearts of the Spinward Ring" but our record doesn't show it. --Vasha (cazadora de tildes) 11:23, 16 December 2018 (EST)

The Icy Touch

Added cover scan to your verified The Icy Touch.SFJuggler 14:38, 16 December 2018 (EST)

This keeps happening. I know that I used Amazon for a cover image, but that listing must of changed, and the image was lost. So thanks. MLB 21:29, 16 December 2018 (EST)

Landrigan's essay

Hello and happy holidays,

Why is the Landrigan's essay in Alfred Hichcock's Mystery Magazine, January-February 2019 eligible for inclusion? I'd check it myself but my magazine is not here yet :) Annie 00:32, 26 December 2018 (EST)

It was the introduction to the E. F. Benson ghost story. Landrigan talks a little about Benson, his collection (where his story is reprinted from), and, briefly, about the story itself. It's about a third of a page long, if that helps. Oh, and I hope you are having some happy holiday memories yourself. MLB 02:41, 26 December 2018 (EST)
Thanks! And yeah - then it qualifies. :) Annie 02:42, 26 December 2018 (EST)

Aerie Books Ltd./The War of the Worlds

The publisher Aerie Books Ltd. is currently known in this database as "Aerie" but, judging from some of their books I've seen, the form they use on both title pages and copyright pages is "Aerie Books Ltd." I am going to request the publisher name be edited if verifiers confirm; please check your book The Legend of Sleepy Hollow or The War of the Worlds or the other The War of the Worlds. Thanks!

With regards to those WotW editions ... I have one with the ISBN 0-938-81910-0 using the same cover art as your ISBN 0-938-81975-5. Mine states on the copyright page, "All new material in this edition is copyright © 1986, 1987 by Aerie Books Ltd." Worldcat has a date of 1987 for this ISBN so I've gone with that.

See the note on this unverified publication for why "The Life of H. G. Wells," unsigned and undated in my edition, is in the database as by James Gunn, 1986. --Vasha (cazadora de tildes) 23:02, 31 December 2018 (EST)

It doesn't really matter. It's been done before. That is, standardizing a publisher. Numerous publishers constantly shade their names. If it is the same company, instead of having multiple versions of the name of the same company so you just standardize the publishers name. So go ahead and change the publisher's name. I've already addressed this issue in one form above in a discussion about Leisure Books, which also published bootleg editions of their own books under the B. M. I. and Banner of Truth imprints, the names of which were stolen from more legit book companies. So standardize away. MLB 02:49, 1 January 2019 (EST)
In case you're curious, a discussion on Aerie came up before. Go here to see what happened when I first entered this book on this site. MLB 03:08, 1 January 2019 (EST)
Leaving aside the unimportant matter of what the publisher's standardized name should be, I'm trying to figure out the history of James Gunn's introductory material. A 1988 Tor edition says that the bio and intro are "Copyright 1986, 1987 by Aerie Books Ltd." so, somewhat to my surprise, Tor acquired them from Aerie rather than the other way around. Maybe Aerie only started doing questionable shenanigans later, what with their multiple ISBNs and bargain-bin editions and editions with no copyright info.
According to Worldcat, Aerie's first printing of The War of the Worlds was 1987 but they had The Time Machine in 1986, so a date of 1986 for the bio and 1987 for the intro seems like a safe bet. I still am not sure that Gunn is the author of the bio, though. --Vasha (cazadora de tildes) 03:14, 1 January 2019 (EST)
Well, if I remember correctly, the essay in my edition wasn't signed either. I just used the information already on this site, in fact, this page had already existed, I just added to it. In fact, I think that I got my information from here from editor Dragoondelight who quit in a huff before I joined. MLB 03:36, 1 January 2019 (EST)
I've created a record for the uncredited bio, it's this, in case you want to swap it into your publications in place of the record attributed to Gunn. --Vasha (cazadora de tildes) 23:15, 2 January 2019 (EST)
No, that's fine. MLB 23:23, 2 January 2019 (EST)

Narrator template


Just wanted to let you know that we added a new template to record the narrators for audiobooks ({{Narrator|Stefan Rudnicki}} for example). I changed it here and also added the Audible ASIN :) Annie 17:03, 15 January 2019 (EST)

Will you STOP that!!!!! Every time I turn around you people are changing this or updating that! Good Grief, don't you people have lives? I know I don't, but still... Okay, thanks. :) MLB 17:31, 15 January 2019 (EST)
Naah, not going to stop at all - if we stop, the world will stop turning! And what is that "life" you are talking about? Now you will make me go and pull my dictionaries...  :) It is similar to the translator template - the idea is that one day when we have "other people responsible for this work/pub" kind of thing, this will make it easier to find and migrate these. :) Annie 17:36, 15 January 2019 (EST)

The Indexes

These should be January-December (the previous year) - look at the few I have on hold - they have the CURRENT ISSUE disambiguation so when you change the year to the previous year, it does not make sense... For example this one should either be "Index (Asimov's, Volume 40, January - December 2016)" or "Index (Asimov's, January-February 2017)" (which means that it is the in Jan/Feb 2017 issue... Making it Jan 2016 does not make sense. Or am I missing something? Annie 03:08, 17 January 2019 (EST)

It was late at night and I was tired. No excuse, but I will fix in a little bit, as I am on my way out of the house. MLB 11:34, 17 January 2019 (EST)
I was wondering if it was not just a half-asleep brain ( mine or yours.) :) Thanks! Annie 11:48, 17 January 2019 (EST)
The new set you just sent have the same problem: this should either be "January 2015" or "January-December 2014". "January 2014" does not make sense at all for the 2014 list published in January 2015. Annie 20:51, 17 January 2019 (EST)
Please tell me I got it right this time. I must be loosing my mind. MLB 22:26, 17 January 2019 (EST)
Yep, perfect - there was a missing comma in one of them but I added it so they line up. Annie 01:16, 18 January 2019 (EST)

Last Dance of the Lochkray

Hi, I have put the submissions for this on hold. wondering how it's possible that the review precedes the title by eight years (!?). Christian Stonecreek 04:37, 30 January 2019 (EST)

I found ~on Goodreads that the title was first published in March 2005, and changed the title record as such.--Dirk P Broer 06:52, 30 January 2019 (EST)
Thanks very much, Dirk. I approved of the submissions. Christian Stonecreek 07:12, 30 January 2019 (EST)

Asimov's Readers' Poll Results

While adding the finalists for this year's Asimov's Readers' Poll awards, I noticed that we did not have the full poll results for 2017 nor 2018. Unfortunately the magazine's website only lists the winners. The SFADB also seems to be missing the full results for 2017 and, curiously, the novella results for 2018 (they have the others). I was wondering if the editorials announcing the results, in the September/October issues for each year, happen to publish the full results. If so, would you mine either updating the awards for those years that we still have as finalists. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 09:26, 10 February 2019 (EST)

Holee Kow!!! I've been editing here since 2012 and I didn't even know this was on the site!!! So much to keep learning about ISFDB. Don't even know how to update this. Will start searching immediately. MLB 19:58, 10 February 2019 (EST)
Happy to introduce you to something new. If you have any questions about how to update the awards, feel free to ask. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 22:08, 10 February 2019 (EST)

Anything But Empty

I accepted your edit to add Anything But Empty to the db, but you will also need to add the short story as contents as this is a chapbook. Thanks. PeteYoung 06:32, 15 February 2019 (EST)

Tags for Translator in pub notes

Hi. I thought one was a copy/paste thing, but I've run into another. Don't include
tags around the
(and similar templates) in the notes. These are flagged as not-allowed HTML, and they're not needed. Thanks. --MartyD 22:18, 20 February 2019 (EST)
Fine. I was only following instructions from previous moderators. They gave me the formula to follow. See here and here. MLB 01:04, 21 February 2019 (EST)
It looks like there's been some confusion. The
tags were included to make it (the example template) appear correctly when viewing the template here on your talk page. Those nowiki tags make the wiki (which this talk page is part of) not interpret the {{TR|NAME}} template as an actual template here in the wiki. Only the {{tr|NAME}} part should be used. I hope that makes it more clear. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 16:36, 21 February 2019 (EST)
Yeah. MLB 00:06, 22 February 2019 (EST)

The Devil and Daniel Webster

Hi. You entered and verified a copy of the 1965 HRW edition, P490250.

Concerning whether this is a reprint of the 1937 edition:
Moments ago I added the 1st ed. (Countryman Press, 1937) submission from contemporary newspaper coverage mainly, but also a WorldCat record that reports page-span 13-61, which matches your report. See also the last bullet item.

HRW was created by 1960 merger of Henry Holt, Rinehart & Company (successor to Farrar & Rinehart), and John C. Winston. So it would hold their backlists.

28-year renewal of the 1937 copyright must be expected in 1965, the year of your publication. But you note that it states only 1937 copyright. --Pwendt|talk 23:00, 25 February 2019 (EST)

ASIN vs Audible ASIN

Hi, I just corrected invalid ASINs for a title where you merged a title, The Bantam: A Phantom Traveler Novella. I assume the wrong codes were either entered by you, or became wrong codes because of the merge. What did I need to correct? There was a ASIN given that was in fact the Audible ASIN and on the palce of the audible ASIN there was a 10-digit string. Both ASIN and Audible ASIn can't be 10-digit strings. The correct ASIN for 'The Bantam: A Phantom Traveler Novella' is B078VTQWL2 (see the ebook), the correct Audible ASIN is B07N49BHWZ (see the audiobook). Now I'm left with '1551171342' which is not a OCLC number, nor an ISBN. Do you have a clue?--Dirk P Broer 05:16, 27 February 2019 (EST)

No. Get rid of it. MLB 06:36, 27 February 2019 (EST)

Buy or Die: There Cometh a Time of Ruthless Advertising

All looking better) now. Annie 21:13, 15 March 2019 (EDT)

Five Victorian Ghost Novels

1. A\The Phantom Lover

Hi. You verified this 1971 Dover omnibus in some undated printing, P381181. Please check whether it does contain "A Phantom Lover" under variant title "The Phantom Lover". The library records we cite for the original 1971 printing both show the original title "A Phantom Lover": LCCN 77-102771, which you cite in the Notes, and WorldCat OCLC 876263121, indirectly in a quoted 2018 GoodReads review. --Pwendt|talk 13:28, 18 March 2019 (EDT)

British Library also reports "A Phantom Lover", BL 000375769.
2. The Amber Witch. We should also know what info Dover provides concerning this text of "The Amber Witch" --translator, year, and more if available. Sources differ concerning the year and we have both 1844 and 1846 titles in the database, T1365996 as a NOVEL and T1146197 as a short story. (Our one publication record for the latter shows that the work must be a short story, most likely an excerpt from one unrevised translation --or minimally revised, to present the excerpt adequately by itself.) --Pwendt|talk 14:13, 19 March 2019 (EDT)
Okay, this is one of my first edits on this site and a lot of crap has has happened around here since then, including two deaths, and a lot of sicknesses, so to be honest, I don't, at present, know where that volume is at. I'll look for the book, but, it'll take a while. Change what you think needs changing, and I'll go on a scavenger hunt when I can, and when I find that book I'll fix anything that needs fixing. I'll change the verification in the meantime. MLB 17:28, 19 March 2019 (EDT)
I am sorry to read about all that. I am familiar only with the part about owning books that are not at hand, so I don't do much verification here. --Pwendt|talk 18:18, 20 March 2019 (EDT)

Allan Quatermain

Here P578321 is one that you are likely to recall, I infer from your deliberate publication Note, "Misspells Quatermain's name as Quartermain on the cover" (with image that shows that stray 'r' on the spine). To me you imply correct spelling on the title page, so that the publication title and NOVEL title as "Quartermain" are mistakes, for your F. M. Lupton edition.

We have several publications of that NOVEL with two spelling errors in the title, "Allan Quartermain: Being and Account", presumably propagated by copy-paste from no more than one intentional entry of a mis-spelling. I don't propose to touch yours unless you recall that no mis-spelling is intentional.

If/when you find the book, it may provide helpful information about the publisher F. M. Lupton --most likely a street address. I have 7 different ones from 1880s to 1900s, gathered today in somewhat-related research. --Pwendt|talk 18:36, 20 March 2019 (EDT)


Sorry, but I was the one who corrected the erroneous submission for an ANTHOLOGY. This is impossible per ISFDB standard. I'll wait until tomorrow but it seems that a new erroneous submission would have to be rejected. Stonecreek 15:14, 29 March 2019 (EDT)

Well, this is certainly not a chapbook, so how does one list it? Maybe as a collaboration? One piece of fiction by one author, in a book filled by different authors certainly seems to fit the definition of an anthology to me, even if the other pieces are there to explore the themes of that one piece of fiction. Anyway, I'm not being hostile, I truly would like to know how to list this type of book, as there are plenty of them out there. I have read books like this dealing with Lovecraft, and James' The Turn of the Screw.
This also leads up to a second question. There are a LOT of sequels, prequels, and spinoffs of Carmilla. They should be put into a series, but Carmilla is already part of a series . . . so how would one go about organizing these stories. Some of this is above my pay grade y'know. Maybe "Carmilla Universe", and then make Martin Hesselius the parent series? Just trying to be a better editor. MLB 18:14, 29 March 2019 (EDT)
It really seems to be a CHAPBOOK: after all the shortfiction by Le Fanu (who is defined as author as per title page and cover) takes more than half of the space (ANTHOLOGY is ruled out per our definition of it). Stonecreek 02:06, 30 March 2019 (EDT)
Yeah, but half the space, it's a two hundred page book, is taken up by extraneous material. This is not just a couple of forewords or afterwords. These are full-length articles/criticisms. I can't see a two-hundred page book filled with multiple authors rendered down to a chapbook. Still, I'm just a lowly editor, but, the rules are the rules, and if the rules say it's so, what do I know. Time to move on. Lots of indie authors that need to be on this site. I think. No big deal. MLB 02:33, 30 March 2019 (EDT)

The Carol Singer

A quick question about your verified "The Carol Singer" by Chris Fox. The Locus Index says that it is the same story as "The Carol Singer" by Chris Naylor which appeared in The Young Oxford Book of Christmas Stories in 2001. However, the Naylor story is currently listed as having been first published in 1988 while our database record says that the Fox story was first published in December 1998.

When you have a free moment, could you please check your chapbook to see if it contains anything that may shed additional light on this issue? TIA! Ahasuerus 13:08, 30 March 2019 (EDT)

I'll look, but it wouldn't matter I fear, the pamphlet was just some loosely folded pages that were meant as a give-away. As I stated in my note, there is no date. I got it when a story of mine was rejected. If other sources state that the original publishing date is 1988, then that's what it is. However, shouldn't the Fox and Naylor pages be merged? MLB 21:19, 30 March 2019 (EDT)
Well, the fact there was another "Chris Fox" active around the same time made me wonder if Locus may have been mistaken. My thinking was "Perhaps the two Carol Singers shorts are two separate stories by two different authors". However, their theme is the same, the word count is close - 2 pages vs. 4 unnumbered pages -- and the FictionMag Index also thinks that Chris Naylor used "Chris Fox" as a pseudonym in the late 1990s and early 2000s. I ended up creating VT/pseudonym associations for the two stories. Now to make sure that our bibliography of the latest addition to the "Chris Fox" brigade is up to date. No rest for the wicked :-) Thanks! Ahasuerus 23:35, 30 March 2019 (EDT)

Signal Red

Hi Mark, I accepted your edit to add Signal Red, but I'm bothered by "Penguin Global" as the publisher as I can't find reference anywhere to this being an actual Penguin imprint. Amazon Look Inside shows the pub as having "First published by Penguin Books India 2005" on the copyright page. Can you clarify where Penguin Global comes from? Also, the ISBN-13 is for publications from 2007 onwards. The pre-2007 ISBN-10 for this pub is 0143032623 (according to Amazon). Thanks. PeteYoung 23:35, 2 April 2019 (EDT)


Cover images should be uploaded using the "Upload new cover scan" option on the publication. If you are adding a new publication, you should wait for the publication to added and then upload it using the link. The link will properly name the image as well as apply the correct templates. When uploading non-cover images directly to the wiki, you need to manually apply a license tag to the image. Help:How to upload images to the ISFDB wiki provides instructions for this. Looking at your contributions, you have a lot of images that need to be fixed. Please go through your history and apply the proper templates. If they are not appropriately marked, they are not complaint with copyright. -- JLaTondre (talk) 20:53, 24 April 2019 (EDT)

Well, somebody should have explained this before. But, ignorance is no excuse for incompetence, so if you go here could you check and see if I’m doing it right? MLB 01:02, 25 April 2019 (EDT)
Wiki edits are not moderated. Unfortunately, that means things like this can be missed for awhile.
As for this edit, that is not sufficient. You need to edit the page and add an appropriate image license template (they are listed in the help page I linked above). For this author image, I would assume you would use the fair use one (Template:Author Image Data), but you need to pick the correct one based on the true copyright status (so fair use, by permission, public domain, create commons, etc.). Once you pick the right license, go to the license template page (they are all linked on the help page) and it will give you the instructions for what you need to enter on the image page.
I moved your post from my talk page to here. It is easier to keep conversation grouped and I have watchlisted this page. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 20:55, 25 April 2019 (EDT)
This all boils down to whether or not I understand computerese. Perhaps I overstepped myself. Well, okay, I DID overstep my boundaries. I did this but I know its wrong, and/or I don't know how to link it to anything. MLB 22:14, 25 April 2019 (EDT)
Sorry for not making it simpler. You don't edit the template page. You edit the image page and copy the template to it. So edit Image:Trevor.jpg and replace the text contents with:
{{Author Image Data
|Name=Trevor Quachri
|Source=[ Analog Science Fiction and Fact website]
That will add the template, with the correct parameters filled in, to the image page. -- JLaTondre (talk) 23:09, 25 April 2019 (EDT)
Well, it looks like your job is still safe from me. It all seems like magic to me, but is this correct now? Sorry to take so long. I got caught by some ransomware. MLB 20:51, 1 May 2019 (EDT)
Yes, it's correct. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 18:54, 2 May 2019 (EDT)

The Girl Who Was Burned Alive

In Tales of Magic and Mystery, March 1928, the essay The Girl Who Was Burned Alive is credited to Howard Thurston, but varianted as by Walter B. Gibson. However, Thurston and Gibson are different people. As there no note indicating the pub had an incorrect credit, is this variant correct? -- JLaTondre (talk) 14:52, 4 May 2019 (EDT)

I know nothing. I was looking at somebody's messages and they had mentioned that Gibson had ghost written Thurston's stuff. I'm more that willing to be wrong about this, but see this from where I checked. If you want to change it back, I'm fine with it. MLB 16:28, 4 May 2019 (EDT)
I've seen sources saying that Gibson ghostwrote two of Thurston's magic books. This is entered as an essay. Is that correct? Does it say it's by the magician (as apposed to another Thurston) or state it's reprinted from somewhere? Also, the one pub has it listed as "Burned Alive" and the other "Buried Alive". Can you double check that as well? -- JLaTondre (talk) 08:44, 11 May 2019 (EDT)
The pulps were pretty shifty when it came to giving credit where credit was due. So I don't know if the Thurston article was an article or an excerpt. This is something that an expert in magic could tell you, which I am not. But, I suspect that if Gibson ghost-wrote Thurston's books, then he probably did Thurston's articles as well. My copy is in storage, but Amazon states that the article is BURNED alive, and I copied my submission directly from the replica itself (which I got for the Lovecraft story). Being unable to drive, when I can get to my storage container I'll double check, but not right away. Family, you can't choose 'em. Again, until there is proof positive, maybe the article should be changed back to just Thurston with a note on the writer's page. MLB 20:46, 11 May 2019 (EDT)
I have merged the two stories under "Burned" since that is what you verified it as. However, please double check when you have a chance. Other sources quote it as "Buried" and Amazon listings are not the most accurate. I found other sources that state this was ghostwritten so I have left the variant in place with a note to that affect. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 09:36, 12 May 2019 (EDT)

Thanks for Noticing

Nice of you to notice I became a moderator. Thank you. I think it would have been impossible if Michael Hutchins was still active; he and I fought constantly when I first started participating. But Ron Kihara and I got together at the Windy City Pulp and Paperback Show this year, and he offered to nominate me. I was curious to see what would happen, and lo and behold, now I'm a moderator. Bob 13:57, 14 May 2019 (EDT)

Well, we keep running into each other when it comes to pulp fiction and the small presses. I just wish I had the money, and room around here, to buy more. Good luck. MLB 19:36, 15 May 2019 (EDT)

Doubled back cover

Hi, there were two of them here. I dropped the incorrect one and put the other one into the page count. Christian Stonecreek 10:42, 20 May 2019 (EDT)

HTML coding

Hi, can you please take a look at how to properly make a bold italic text using html? I have corrected umpteen of these today.--Dirk P Broer 22:17, 29 May 2019 (EDT)

Now I know. No hard feelings. Always willing to learn to do better. MLB 22:26, 29 May 2019 (EDT)
I hope that I got my last two entries correct this time. MLB 22:56, 29 May 2019 (EDT)
No problems with the HTML. If only you'd stop using double bullets....--Dirk P Broer 04:51, 30 May 2019 (EDT)
Mom said I'd be trouble when I grew up. I'll try harder. MLB 04:53, 30 May 2019 (EDT)

"War of the Giant Apes" merge

Hi. I accepted your War of the Giant Apes merge, but the submission had an issue with the length. It wanted to lose the SHORTFICTION/novella length in favor of NOVEL, but the record is a variant of another SHORTFICTION/novella parent, so that would have been a mismatch. I took a look at the appearances and only verification we have, and it seemed to me that SHORTFICTION/novella is likely the correct length, so I put that back. If it should be NOVEL, multiple edits will be needed to produce a consistent result, plus checking with the primary verifier for the one verified appearance. Thanks. --MartyD 06:50, 7 June 2019 (EDT)

Any way you want it. I really didn't know how to merge Alexander Blade, as no real author was credited with it, so I took a leap of faith, and tried to figure it out. Having never seen a copy of either the book or the magazine (Amazing Stories), I can't verify anything except what the ERBville site states. If they discover oil on my property then I can afford to buy everything that catches my fancy, but until then . . . MLB 15:55, 7 June 2019 (EDT)

Novels in Magazines

I'm going to reject your two edits to change the title type of two stories ([5] and [6]) to novels. When a novel appears in a single installment in a magazine, we treat it as a serial instead of a novel. Additionally, the title should be changed by appending "(Complete Novel)". This is described under Title->Serials and Title Type->SERIAL in this help section. I did approve the variant relationship for these two titles, but you'll need to change these to titles to SERIALs. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 09:08, 8 June 2019 (EDT)


Hi, I think you ought to read this before entering more errors in the ISBN field (like Barnes & Noble id nos.).--Dirk P Broer 20:02, 17 June 2019 (EDT)

So...Nook Books shouldn't be entered? MLB 21:53, 17 June 2019 (EDT)

Tek covers

Hi. I replaced the cover on Tek Secret with one having a slightly higher resolution. Jack Sjmathis 15:05, 23 June 2019 (EDT)

Hi. I replaced the cover on Tek Vengence with one having a slightly higher resolution. Jack Sjmathis 15:15, 23 June 2019 (EDT)

Okay, thanks. MLB 19:29, 23 June 2019 (EDT)

Asimov's Science Fiction, May-June 2019

Hi the listing for "The Doing an Undoing of Jacob E. Mwangi" seems to be a typo, it should be "The Doing and Undoing of Jacob E. Mwangi". So I'll change it if you don't mind. Thanks. gzuckier 23:14, 25 June 2019 (EDT)

Okay. Just got out of the hospital, so I couldn't right back to you. MLB 18:40, 27 June 2019 (EDT)

Ty Game in 2014

Hello, I think you are responsible for the addition of this? If, so, could it be that it is erroneous? I can't find any sign of the publication in the given source Dogpatch Press, and the Wikipedia entry states this as a 2018 title (not 2014). Can you take a closer look? Stonecreek 02:30, 30 June 2019 (EDT)

Okay, eliminate it. I was juggling several screens at once, and I must of mistaken this page for for the Ty page, as I entered both on this site at nearly the same time. Very sorry. MLB 03:22, 30 June 2019 (EDT)

I Will Follow to Eternity and Beyond

When the source is Goodreads, please do not forget to add the GR number to the record (we have an External ID for those). Can you find it again and add it here? Thanks! Annie 17:06, 12 July 2019 (EDT)

I stopped adding them when they stopped going anywhere. I'll add the only number that I can find. MLB 17:11, 12 July 2019 (EDT)
What do you mean? The GR ones are pretty stable in my experience. If you find one that does not lead anywhere even though you are seeing it, please ping me - maybe we need to change the way we build the URL? Annie 17:15, 12 July 2019 (EDT)

Zombie Bigfoot

"7 hours and 55 minutes, or 396 minutes in listening length." -- these two cannot be right at the same time here. 475 minutes is not the same as 396 minutes... :) Annie 17:32, 12 July 2019 (EDT)

Your right, where did I get 396???? MLB 17:36, 12 July 2019 (EDT)

His for the Claiming

Did you do an Edit by mistake here instead of Clone? Annie 18:12, 12 July 2019 (EDT)

Yes. Sorry. MLB 22:57, 12 July 2019 (EDT)
no worries. I rejected it and did a proper cloning so we are all set. Annie 12:34, 15 July 2019 (EDT)
Thanks. MLB 14:32, 15 July 2019 (EDT)


Does this author really has (I) in his legal name? Annie 15:51, 19 July 2019 (EDT)

The reason that I did that is because this Ron Fleshman started publishing in the nineties, and this Ron Fleshman was publishing fan art in the fifties, and I didn’t want them confused. Maybe I was wrong, feel free to correct if need be. MLB 16:02, 19 July 2019 (EDT)
We do not differentiate in the legal name - it is literally the person name. We can add a note to explain it is a different Fleshman - I will do that.
Now I know. Won't happen again. MLB 16:17, 19 July 2019 (EDT)
It is not a problem -- and done Annie 16:25, 19 July 2019 (EDT)

To the Dark Tower

Found the cover artist Lou Marchetti of this pub on artists website. --Zapp 18:02, 23 July 2019 (EDT)

Capitalization (and accents) variation in author credits

Hi. It's futile to try to make a title record that has an author credit differing only in capitalization or diacriticals/accents from an existing author record that is otherwise spelled the same. The software matches what you have provided to the existing entry -- despite those differences -- and uses the existing entry, essentially ignoring your variations. So the only way to have one title with LaDonna instead of Ladonna is to change the canonical author record to use LaDonna. Then all titles will have LaDonna instead of Ladonna. It's not currently possible to have some as LaDonna and others as Ladonna. I will take a look and see about changing the author record if LaDonna is predominant among the appearances of the titles we have. --MartyD 12:29, 11 August 2019 (EDT)

I edited the author record and changed it to LaDonna. --MartyD 12:38, 11 August 2019 (EDT)
Y'know, I wasn't trying to cause trouble, all I was trying to do put down her name as she lists it. Didn't know the trouble I was causing. Sorry. MLB 19:48, 11 August 2019 (EDT)
Oh, it wasn't any trouble. Just one of those ISFDB quirks that bites people, and it looked like you didn't know about it. --MartyD 06:33, 13 August 2019 (EDT)

The Wish List

In you credit the cover to "Keijiro Komine". Is this stated in the book? Can you add a pub note about it? I'd like to copy that information to other pubs with the same cover. --Stoecker 05:39, 18 August 2019 (EDT)

My health has been going sidewise for a while now and people have been shifting some of my stuff around, and during a recent hospital stay some stuff got really messed up. So, I don't really know where this book is. What I know is that Keijiro Komine is a real photographer and some of his stuff can be found on Getty Images. I also know that I wouldn't have listed Komine's name unless it had been mentioned in the book in someway. Until I find it I'll temp verify this book, although none of this answers your questions. MLB 18:21, 19 August 2019 (EDT)

"The Waters of a New World" submission

Hi. The submission I have on hold is presented as if the author is being changed, but it's being changed to the same author, so it's effectively doing nothing. I can't tell what you intended, so I decided to hold it and have you take a look in case something got lost. Thanks. --MartyD 07:25, 22 August 2019 (EDT)

No, my computer, stooopid computer, ate my first draft of this submission, so I quickly, and carelessly, did it a second time, leaving several mistakes in my wake. Most were corrected by the editor, but I mistakenly thought this author's name was not corrected, so I corrected a correction. Hardly a great mystery for the ages, but an explanation none-the-less. Hope this helps. MLB 14:16, 22 August 2019 (EDT)

Oriental Stories

Apparently it contained enough of our stories to have been considered genre and Miller/Contento added at last some issues to the checklists. So... guess it is one of ours :) Annie 17:44, 6 September 2019 (EDT)

Okay MLB 17:47, 6 September 2019 (EDT)
Thanks for adding all those reprints! We need them in the DB - although I did not need to know that they existed... :) Annie 17:48, 6 September 2019 (EDT)
Well, I'm not gonna read them all, but it's good to know that this part of early American puplishing is easily available to readers again. MLB 18:02, 6 September 2019 (EDT)

Protoplasmic Station

OK - I thought that we have the 2 separate reprint merged but apparently not. What are you trying to do here exactly? The unmerge you sent will split the short story into separate copies which is not what you are trying to do I think. The story is in one anthology here and one magazine. I know that some are reprinted twice - and these are in separate series the way you organize them but this one seems to have only one reprint. So... what are you trying to split from what? Annie 02:08, 7 September 2019 (EDT)

Same here - the "Thrilling Wonder Stories, April 1937" this one is the only publication on this title. You can change the series if it is wrong but there is nothing to split... Annie 02:11, 7 September 2019 (EDT)
Somebody tinkered with the Adventure House facsimile reprints and Pulp Tales Press Facsimile Reprints of the Thrilling Wonder Facsimile Reprints and combined them into one series (Thrilling Wonder Stories (reprints)). I was trying to keep things more organized. I created one series and carried on from an unknown editor with the other. I just want to put everything else in order. It's a bit tricky when dealing with magazines. MLB 02:37, 7 September 2019 (EDT)
So what I thought initially except in the wrong record. There are two problems:
Pulp ones and the Adventure ones are mixed in this series - so go through them and update the Pulp ones to get them out.
this one and this one were mixed with their counterparts so I pulled them out.
I will let you fix the series inside of the series and on these two. Maybe Pub Series would have worked better here but let's untangle and we will see after that. Annie
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