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The Void Between Emotions ebook

I accepted The Void Between Emotions ebook edition, but I removed the ISBN. According to the Amazon page, that ISBN is the source of the page numbers/page count for the ebook. I didn't see any ISBN in the Look Inside. But I searched Amazon for that ISBN and found a trade paperback using it (well, the ISBN-13 form of it), so I created another entry for that, capturing the ISBN. --MartyD 07:15, 2 July 2017 (EDT)

Clockwork Wonderland

Hello,

I accepted your cloning that created Clockwork Wonderland however if I had accepted it as is, it would have created the need for a date change on all 20 titles inside of it one by one (18 in the content, the anthology record and the coverart) - once they are in 2 publications, their dates cannot be changed from one of the publications. Instead I just made a single update on all titles through the already existing publication and then accepted your cloning attempt. Earlier today, I had to do the same for Forever Vacancy: A Colors in Darkness Anthology. Can you please check the dates and submit the date changes before the cloning attempt?

Also - in Clockwork Wonderland - can you look at the last item called "Authors". Is it really a story or is it an essay? Or is it just the few-liners bios that we usually do not record? Thanks! Annie 01:29, 4 July 2017 (EDT)

How do I correct this cloning mistake so you don't have to, I thought everything just merged automatically. Of course, at one time I believed in fairies, Santa Clause, and that chocolate was calorie free. I'm so un-tech literate. Should I just "add publication" and then import the contents then instead of cloning? Do you want me to do it all over again? *Authors is an essay not a story. As to what it is I don't know. A few lines or some detailed bios. The "Look Inside" feature is not clear. If we ever meet at a convention you get the right to slap me once for free for giving you a hard time. MLB 01:54, 4 July 2017 (EDT)
No, I did those before accepting so these are all good now. This was a notification for future cases :)
The merge happens but the dates remain the ones from the original publication entered in ISFDB. Import has the same issue. What needs to happen is before you clone, check the dates. If the existing publication is 2017-01-12 and the new one you are adding now is 2014-01-05, when you clone or import, the publication with date 2014-01-05 will contain titles with a date 2017-01-12 (because when the first one was added, all the dates were set to the pub date automatically). Which is obviously incorrect - if a story was published in 2014, it should not have a 2017 date. So before you clone or import, look at the dates and if the existing pub is after what you are adding now, do Edit Publication on the already existing publication (the 2017 one in my example) and change the dates on all elements except the publication itself (the publication is 2017 but the content needs to be 2014 now - because it was published in 2014). This way when you clone and/or import, the dates of the stories and so on will be the earliest of the dates and all will line up. Does this make sense?
The reason it needs to be done before the clone is that once the auto-merge happens, you cannot change the dates in bulk anymore - the story is in 2 publications so you cannot change the name, author or date from a publication (they are greyed out). If that happens, they need to be changed one by one -- doable but... And if there are already 2 publications and you are cloning from that, it needs to be done one by one anyway - but when we can prevent it, it is so much easier to do it on the publication level.
Let me know if I need to explain better. :) Annie 02:07, 4 July 2017 (EDT)
Well, no, I think I get it, but then that sounds like an awful lot of extra steps as the corrections then have to okayed by the moderator, and then the cloning can happen. MLB 20:55, 8 July 2017 (EDT)
Nope. It is only one edit - changing all the dates (from the publication edit) - just go down through the content and change them all. Then immediately submit the cloning and add a moderator note to tell the moderator that there is a pending date change that needs to go first. :) If the title already has two publications, you cannot do the one submission redating anymore. So if not done before the cloning, it is now a lot of submissions. If is this case, yes, just clone and someone will need to redate. But when it is just 1, doing it first makes sense. Annie 21:09, 8 July 2017 (EDT)
If you say so. And now they are saying that the clone is later than the original. Can we go back to smoke signals? MLB 21:24, 8 July 2017 (EDT)
Which is normal - because the first was not approved yet, you get a warning after submitting. Worked perfectly - thanks! Except that no other moderator besides me could have deciphered your note. How about "date change request pending and needs accepting before this one"? :) Annie 22:42, 8 July 2017 (EDT)

Starship Desolation

Hello, When creating the request for Starship Desolation, you copied the ASIN in the field where Cover Artist goes. I presumed that there is no cover artist so just moved the ASIN where it belongs and deleted the coverart entry. If you know who the cover artist it (I cannot see it in Amazon), can you add it again. Thanks! Annie 21:54, 7 July 2017 (EDT)

I have no idea who the artist is. I don't know why the artist is never given credit (There aught to be a Law!!) for their covers. MLB 22:08, 7 July 2017 (EDT)
Then that one is as good as it can be. Thanks. :) Annie 22:19, 7 July 2017 (EDT)

Today's interesting titles

Hello,

I did some updates on today's interesting titles to get some of the capitalization fixed ("the", "by", "with" and "Is" need to be capitalized this way in the middle of a sentence and I did not fix them when I accepted earlier (note to self - submit the updates...). I also finished fixing the publisher - you started with "The Dishes Are Done, Man", then switched to "The Dishes Are Done, Man!" and it seems to be the latter so the Cruz title needed to join the rest. Annie 03:53, 11 July 2017 (EDT)

You find the oddest things on Amazon. I had no idea that there was such things as Obama and Trump porn, but there you go. Now I have to go and wash my brains out. MLB 04:09, 11 July 2017 (EDT)
Yeah... some titles just cannot be unseen. :) Annie 04:12, 11 July 2017 (EDT)

Publisher for The Dark Times

Hello,

Are you sure that the publisher here is correct? If so, maybe the book you entered earlier should have the same one? Or are they indeed different? Thanks! Annie 21:21, 11 July 2017 (EDT)

Don't know. Just copied what I saw. A quick Google search doesn't tell me what P. A. stands for. Yeah, maybe they should be combined, but I don't know if Pat is the same as P. A. An example: I have two brothers P. Baumgart. One is Paul and the other is Phil (oddly enough, one is also a "P. A."). You just don't know for sure as P. A. doesn't have a website or Facebook page. Still, now you're the boss, so I guess the final decision is up to you. MLB 21:53, 11 July 2017 (EDT)
But both books are from the same author so I suspect his/her name is Pat. :) I just noticed and decided to check with you - if this is what is written, this is what is written. We will see if any of them will get more books. Annie 21:57, 11 July 2017 (EDT)

The Horrors of Seward Shores

As requested (I know you did not ask the moderators to do it but it is faster that way than waiting the subsequent updates): The Horrors of Seward Shores. All nicely converted to chapbook, short fiction added, the synopsis moved to the story (As chapbooks cannot have it). :) Annie 21:34, 11 July 2017 (EDT)

Night Terrors: OCLC

Hello,

While moving the OCLC and LCCN number in your verified Night Terrors, I had to replace the OCLC you had (0671002414 - leading to this page which is a different book altogether) with 877595581 and 36246929, both of which lead to the Archway edition of the correct book (one of them says Archway in the publisher field, the other in the comments only). Feel free to remove one of them if you do not think it matches your book. :) Annie 13:01, 17 July 2017 (EDT)

Analog Science Fiction and Fact, July-August 2017

Hello,

Can you check the issue for the spelling of this story's author name. You have it as Aubry Kae Anderson, Analog's site has it as Aubry Kae Andersen and we already have Aubry Kae Andersen in an older Analog issue. So is she really spelled Anderson in this issue or is it a typo? Thanks! Annie 16:15, 17 July 2017 (EDT)

Will I ever get this right? So far, your job is quite safe from me. Will correct this immediately. MLB 18:01, 17 July 2017 (EDT)
The only people that do not do mistakes are the ones that do nothing. And some days I am surprised how small is the number of typos around here especially with the author names. :) Annie 18:07, 17 July 2017 (EDT)

Analog Science Fiction and Fact, July-August 2017

Hello, apart from uploading a scan, I've also changed "C. Stuart Harwick" to "C. Stuart Hardwick". Hauck 12:51, 18 July 2017 (EDT)

Asimov's Science Fiction, July-August 2017

Hello, apart from uploading a scan, I've corrected a mispelled "Freature", changed page for Bishop's story from 143 to 144. I didn't enter the features on page 15, 59, 95, 109 or 163 even if you solely entered Bishop's one on page 148. Hauck 13:00, 18 July 2017 (EDT)

I didn't enter the other features because they were only a paragraph or two, while the Bishop feature was almost a whole page. I have no problem entering all of them if you feel that I should, but I'll only do the substantial ones in the future. Of course, "substantial" is all a matter of perspective. What do you think? All, none, or only the longish ones? MLB 17:17, 18 July 2017 (EDT)
I personnally tend to limit the contents entered to the minimum (fiction, interior art and some of the features), but it's just this, a personnal approach. As the first to enter the publication, you're the leader on this. Hauck 02:14, 19 July 2017 (EDT)
If I was going to list them all I'd have to go all the way back to the first issue of this year. As I said, Bishop's got included because of the length only, listing every remembrance paragraph would seem to lead to a slippery slope. If somebody wants to add them fine, but as you imply, it's a superficial content. Maybe I should just add the page numbers to the notes ("personal notations on pages ..." ) in the future and leave it at that. MLB 01:01, 20 July 2017 (EDT)
I'd vote for noting them in the notes (will be verifying this issue probably over the weekend so can as well say it now and not wait till them to talk to both of you. :) Annie 01:07, 20 July 2017 (EDT)

Murder Squad

I have your latest on hold because it seems like we already have it. Am I missing something? Thanks! Annie 02:03, 19 July 2017 (EDT)

Well, you're missing a lot less than I am it seems, as I completely missed this. No, they're the same book, but I did list the cover artist. I'll transfer that data over to this site's listing and delete mine. Bah! I need more, or better, caffeine. MLB 00:55, 20 July 2017 (EDT)

Black Voltage

So is that thing a publication series or an imprint? You just added one book each way. Do you mind reviewing them and making a decision so they look the same? Thanks. Annie 03:25, 22 July 2017 (EDT)

At the Mountains of Madness

Hello, I've put your submissions on hold. If At the Mountains of Madness is a NOVEL-type text (as it seems the case here), your addtions of novellas to the created records are erroneous (and At the Mountains of Madness, The Call of Cthulhu and The Music of Erich Zann is an OMNIBUS). If it's a SHORTFICTION-type text (of novella length), your submissions should be typed as CHAPBOOKs (and At the Mountains of Madness, The Call of Cthulhu and The Music of Erich Zann is an COLLECTION). What are your thoughts on the matter? Hauck 06:17, 23 July 2017 (EDT)

I agree, it's a novella, how ever it is listed as a novel on its homepage. I thought that an omnibus was several novels bound together, and At the Mountains of Madness, The Call of Cthulhu and The Music of Erich Zann is three stories and not novels. Still, if you think it should be changed from collection to omnibus, I'll go along with that. As far as I can see it, I have two choices, for you to okay these submissions and let me correct them afterwards, or to delete them entirely. Let me know what you want me to do. MLB 07:13, 23 July 2017 (EDT)
In fact technically an OMNIBUS is "A publication may be classified as an omnibus if it contains multiple works that have previously been published independently, and at least one of them is a NOVEL, ANTHOLOGY, COLLECTION, or NONFICTION." (from the Help pages). In order to save your time I'm going to correct the lot (starting with the easiest choice of the text being a NOVEL) please have alook at the result ot see if it's OK.
On a completely unrelated topic, your talk page is quite long by our standards, do you want me to archive it or do you prefer to do it yourself? Hauck 08:08, 23 July 2017 (EDT)

Death's Rival

I've updated the Printing History for Death's Rival and moved the LCCN & OCLC refs. --AndyjMo 16:22, 27 July 2017 (EDT)

"The Crawl Space"

I have just read Joyce Carol Oates's story "The Crawl Space" which is in this magazine you verified, and I think it may be non-genre. It is about a widow who cannot be free of memories of her husband, and feels drawn back to the house where they lived, and down into a basement crawl space where she finds relics of the past and is trapped by memory. It is all very creepy but the haunting is strictly metaphorical, nothing supernatural. I could see it being in an anthology of ghost stories, though, because it would fit in with the tone very well. Do you think non-supernatural ghost stories are "genre"? Whether or not it's marked non-genre, it should stay in the database because of its Stoker Award win. --Vasha 14:06, 3 August 2017 (EDT)

I feel that we've had this argument already. I can't read everything. I've been a subscriber of Ellery Queen's since 1974, and while I have read many an issue, I only skim them now, while only reading selective stories. The Oats story is a prime example of this. Do I think non-supernatural horror stories should be listed here? Well, it depends on the story, which often makes it the choice of the editor and the moderator. There is no real yes or no answer to this question. One editor's speculative story can be another editor's non-speculative story. I've read my share of non-speculative fantasies that were published in magazines like F&SF but are listed here just because of where they were published. Again, I can't give a straight yes/no answer to this. The fact that the Oats' story has won a Stoker pretty much cinches her story's place here on this site. If you want a perfect example of a non-supernatural horror story go read The Haunting of Hill House in which the ghosts are all in the protagonist's mind as she slowly starts loosing her grip on her sanity. The same is true for the story The Yellow Wallpaper. Nobody would be taken seriously if they were to suggest that these stories be deleted, they're canon' by now. MLB 17:45, 3 August 2017 (EDT)
I agree with you that the fuzzy boundary of horror stories should be drawn inclusive... I didn't mark this story non-genre, I just made a note. Thanks for replying and I'm sorry to make you repeat things you've said before. Vasha 18:26, 3 August 2017 (EDT)
Don't be sorry, this site is a living breathing thing, it can't grow without information and people asking questions. It's designed for the curious and those who ask questions and state their genre opinions. MLB 00:38, 4 August 2017 (EDT)

The Very Bloody Marys

Hello, I've approved your clone but you indicate a tp format even if the link provided point to a ebook. Can you check? Thanks. Hauck 03:24, 4 August 2017 (EDT)

Sloppy editing on my end, I've fixed it. Thanks. MLB 03:28, 4 August 2017 (EDT)

Order of texts

Hello, instead of entering "false" page numbers to order your texts, it's better use the "|" method (see here) as I did for your submission. Hauck 07:01, 4 August 2017 (EDT)

Now I know. (I think). MLB 20:59, 4 August 2017 (EDT)

The Lighter Side

I've updated the printing history, added the source of the Cover Artist and moved the OCLC for The Lighter Side. --AndyjMo 10:36, 4 August 2017 (EDT)

Fate's Edge

Replaced Amazon cover art for Fate's Edge with a scan of my copy. Added Copyright statement. --AndyjMo 11:48, 5 August 2017 (EDT)

Blood Challenge

Replaced Amazon cover art for Blood Challenge with a scan of my copy, added the Copyright statement and LCCN. --AndyjMo 16:48, 5 August 2017 (EDT)

Death Magic

Replaced the Amazon cover art for Death Magic with a scan of my copy and added the Copyright statement. --AndyjMo 16:52, 5 August 2017 (EDT)

Maska

Hello ! If the data contained in this pub is written in Cyrillic, as it appears to be, then it should be entered that way. If you have no access to the Cyrillic text (have you tried Fantlab ?), then it would be better to cancel this submission, in my opinion. Thanks, Linguist 06:22, 10 August 2017 (EDT).

No, never tried it, but I can't read it anyway. Unlike you, I don't have the knack for learning any other language but my native one, and its various dialects. I was just trying to fill out the basic information on Koontz' book, having just acquired a used copy. I'll bow to your greater knowledge and cancel the submission. MLB 08:09, 10 August 2017 (EDT)
I think this is what you want; but there are actually four earlier versions of it. I'll deal with them some time this week, as I have a rather tight schedule at the moment. But you can try your hand at it if you like (best way to learn  :o) !), using Google Translation for transliterations. Linguist 08:32, 10 August 2017 (EDT).
Try, try, try again. I took your advice and tried to right a wrong. When you got time it's ready for your perusal. No rush. MLB 10:35, 10 August 2017 (EDT)
See, when you want ! I have approved your submission (the result is here), and made the following corrections : changed the publisher and pub series to their Cyrillic spelling; added transliterations in the corresponding fields (so that the note about it became redundant); changed incorrect ISBN; linked to the scan given by FantLab, the definition of which seemed slightly better than that of Amazon; added FantLab ID to the list; made "Дин Кунц" a pseudonym of "Dean R. Koontz"; varianted Маска to The Mask. Hope I didn't forget anything ! I'll go back to the other Russian editions later. Linguist 12:29, 10 August 2017 (EDT).
Discovered too late you had already varianted it. Sorry, had to cancel this submission ! Linguist 12:34, 10 August 2017 (EDT).

I put your other submission on hold : would this "Headline (Aus)" be in fact "Hodder Headline Australia" (or another of the Australian Headline variety) ? Linguist 12:39, 10 August 2017 (EDT).

Thanks, thanks, and triple thanks, for the help on the Russian book. Didn't know how to list the Headline version of their version of the Mask. The Australian version states that this Headline is part of the Hatchett group, so, no Hodder Headline, I think. This ebook might be pretty much the same as the British version, except for a completely different cover. MLB 03:38, 11 August 2017 (EDT)
I'm not sure how to deal with this one. I'll ask the community if anyone is more familiar with it. Might take a bit more time… Linguist 04:26, 11 August 2017 (EDT).
After conferring with the community, it appears that it must either be "Hodder Headline Australia" or just “Headline”. If there is no mention of Hodder in the pub you are dealing with, it must then be the latter. Can you confirm this ? Linguist 11:08, 13 August 2017 (EDT).
In the meantime, here are the other four known Russian editions of The Mask. Linguist 06:29, 12 August 2017 (EDT).
Awesome. I really like the cover to this one. Go figure. MLB 16:01, 12 August 2017 (EDT)

Unseen

Unseen: replaced Amazon cover art with a scan of my copy, updated the Printing History. --AndyjMo 05:25, 17 August 2017 (EDT)

Working Stiff

Working Stiff: replaced Amazon cover art with a scan of my copy, updated the Printing History. --AndyjMo 05:32, 17 August 2017 (EDT)

Irish Ghost Stories

Hi. You verified and probably entered this 2005 Wordsworth Collection P363467.

Does this book credit Thomas Crofton Croker for two stories as "Croker" and three as "Crocker", as our record currently shows?

Does this book give any year or source for the Croker selection "Daniel O'Rourke"? If (The four other Croker stories are from the 1825 first volume of Fairy Legends T2075397, and "Daniel O'Rourke" does not appear by that name in any volume.) At Wikipedia the Croker biography lists a book first published in 1829. OCLC 8703297 reports something published as 1828. May the version you have be described as "rhymes of a pantomime" or "libretto"? --Pwendt|talk 15:57, 27 August 2017 (EDT)

Here is one prose "Daniel O'Rourke" attributed to Croker by Yeats in 1888 anthology (p97-105) and I have found others that may differ only by shortening the first paragraph. --Pwendt|talk 16:45, 27 August 2017 (EDT)
Okay, here's what I know. As I have stated elsewhere, a couple of years ago my life was completely turned upside down, and a great deal of my books went into storage, including this one. At present I can't locate it, but, if I remember correctly, this is a corrected verification from an already existing entry. There is no acknowledgement page as I stated in the notes and I am/was unfamiliar with most of the contents of this book, so I don't know where the contents came from. I suspect that this was an instant remainder, hence the sloppiness of its assemblage. According to Amazon’s “Look Inside” feature Thomas Crofton Croker wrote the following stories in this anthology:
•The Haunted Cellar.
•Legend of Battle Hill. ["Bottle"]
•The Legend of Knockgrafton. [as "Crocker" in the 2005 Contents list]
•Daniel O’Rourke. [as "Crocker"]
•Master and Man.
More information: After checking out several listings on Amazon, Irish Ghost Stories, has no editor and it’s a massive anthology. But according to Amazon.com Irish Ghost Stories edited by Rosemary Gray, is a severely truncated edition of the original anthology. For instance there are only nine of the twenty-four stories by L. Sheridan LeFanu, from the original reprinted, and the contents have been re-arranged. This is muddied by David Stuart Davies having his name as an editor on an anthology of short ghost fictions with the same name, and on Amazon.com both Gray and Davies are given editorial credit for the same anthology. Fun stuff. MLB 02:14, 28 August 2017 (EDT)
[Above I annotated three bullet points in brackets.]
Oops, one prose "Daniel O'Rourke" is the 20th chapter, p277-94, of the 1825 Fairy Legends (which is volume 1 of 3). Reading its Contents list at HathiTrust days ago, I simply overlooked that. So the 1828 and 1829 pantomime/libretto works I found at WorldCat are derivative. The chapter is longer than "Daniel O'Rourke" in the 1888 Yeats anthology, and other later versions I found, because it concludes with Croker's note below a horizontal line (see 1825, page 291).
I will convert our Fairy Legends publication record P590383 from the 3-volume work as 1825 to the 1st volume as 1825, and import those stories already in the database. I will say something about multiple versions of "Daniel O'Rourke" (and others?) in one shortfiction title note, create no new title records for versions that differ in fore- and after-notes.
The 2005 anthology I leave to you.
Concerning Crocker/Croker, "Look inside" Contents list shows 2 by Croker, later 2 by "Crocker", finally 1 by Croker, so the latter should be changed: remove variant T1336349 and import at p1063 its parent T83807.
Let me proofread our writer credits for the 2005 anthology ... done, by comparison with the "Look inside" Contents list, where our publication record should follow those pages where the selections begin, if the writers are also credited there. The Contents list implies that we need two new pseudonyms and one note:
  • p1011 needs new pseudonym Herminie Kavanagh
  • p959 note listing/credit "Dublin University Magazine (1839)"
  • p793 needs new pseudonym Dorothy Macardl
Until checking those pages in your book, I would merely Note the discrepancies (Herminie Templeton, Dorothy Macardle, perhaps also Crocker/Croker).
--Pwendt|talk 17:40, 31 August 2017 (EDT)

Dracula

I accepted Dracula and will leave the fixing-up to you. While you're at it, take a look at this record. Yours and it share the same ISBN, but there's not enough information in it for me to tell if they're true duplicates. Perhaps your cover will provide a clue. If you think they are the same, I suggest you move the artist credit + source and delete this existing record (and its title). CHAPBOOK + SHORTFICTION/NOVELLA is clearly correct, not NOVEL. --MartyD 20:39, 28 August 2017 (EDT)

My copy seems to be the same book, same company, but different imprint. Mine seems to be an earlier printing before Step-Up Adventures was canceled. Just for fun, Amazon also gives us this: Dracula_-2.jpg again, same book, same illustrator, different imprint, but same publishing house. Stuff like this gives me headaches. On the other hand, Amazon has been wrong before. I'm sure this answers very little. Still, if you want I can update this record with what I know. MLB 01:16, 29 August 2017 (EDT)
More information never hurts, if you're inclined to go to the trouble to add it. My only purpose was to avoid a possible duplicate, which you are confirming they are not. --MartyD 08:14, 29 August 2017 (EDT)

Sleuth series vs. imprint

Hi. For your submission that I have on hold, it looks to me like Sleuth was a Putnam imprint at the time. Via Google I find some verbiage about that on publishersweekly.com, I see we have Sleuth / Putnam, and also searching for "sleuth" in the Look Inside says that in the Front Matter is "SLEUTH / C. P. PUTNAM'S SONS a division of..." Unfortunately, the Look Inside doesn't show the full page for that. Anyway, what do you think about imprint vs. series? --MartyD 20:54, 28 August 2017 (EDT)

Like Hard Case, Sleuth seems to have been a wandering imprint. It has been associated with C. P. Putnam's Sons and with Philomel, both divisions of Penguin. With the Putnam's books that I have Sleuth can be found ("Sleuth Philomel") on the title page, and only on the cover of the Putnam books. It might even have associated with other publishers. Let me know if you think that it should be a publisher's series or an imprint of the publisher. I'll do some correcting if I you want. Let me know which way you think things should go. MLB 02:14, 29 August 2017 (EDT)
It sounds like an imprint to me. How is it mentioned (if it is mentioned at all), in Double Life? --MartyD 08:12, 29 August 2017 (EDT)
On my copies of Double Life and Shadow Beast the only two Invisible Detective books that I own, Sleuth is on the spine of the book and dust jacket (these books have two covers: the dust jacket and the dj’s artwork printed-on-the-cover-boards) and on the inside front dust jacket flap (SLUETH/G. P. PUTNAM’S SONS over "a division of Penguin Young Readers Group"), and nowhere else in or on the books. This is unlike A Tour Of Evil which makes a point of putting Sleuth on its title page. I suppose that despite the two different ways that Sleuth is used, it should probably be standardized. Let me know. MLB 17:38, 29 August 2017 (EDT)
The latter is definitely an imprint-style designation, not a publisher series designation. I think you should go with the "Sleuth / Putnam" we already have as publisher and record these two specific details in the pub notes in case we get more clever about publishers someday. --MartyD 06:26, 30 August 2017 (EDT)

Dublin University Magazine

To make it a pseudonym of two authors, just add another pseudonym (same way you did the original). -- JLaTondre (talk) 08:53, 3 September 2017 (EDT)

Thanks. MLB 17:48, 3 September 2017 (EDT)

Destined for an Early Grave

I’ve added the copyright statement to Destined for an Early Grave. I’ve added the Cover Artist (Thomas Egner) as he is mentioned in the Acknowledgements, and the Canadian Price. The book does not have an inner cover, the gray border is just a gray border. --AndyjMo 13:45, 3 September 2017 (EDT)

Thanks! MLB 17:47, 3 September 2017 (EDT)

Crashcourse

Updated the Printing History for Crashcourse. Changed the LCCN as the one shown (2010714592) was for a completely different book. --AndyjMo 17:30, 4 September 2017 (EDT)

Killing Rocks

Replaced the Amazon cover art for Killing Rocks with a scan of my copy, added the Printing History and LCCN. --AndyjMo 11:05, 5 September 2017 (EDT)

Adding notes, synopses, detailed dates, nongenre markings to Wilkie Collins

I have been going through The Wilkie Collins Information Pages and adding some of their very detailed information to the database. This affects your verified publication Mad Monkton and Other Stories. On the whole, I have not changed anything you originally entered, only added things. However, I marked "The Stolen Letter," "The Lady of Glenwith Grange," and "The Biter Bit" as nongenre on the basis of those synopses and (in most cases) skimming the story. if you've read them and know of anything supernatural (perhaps incidental), please change them back to genre. --Vasha 13:58, 10 September 2017 (EDT)

Ditto for "Mr. Wray's Cashbox" in Crime for Christmas. --Vasha 15:15, 10 September 2017 (EDT)
Collins has been on to-be-read list for quite some time, but I yet to get to him, so I'll bow to your knowledge in this matter. Very often these books from these classic authors were entered before I came on board, and all I could do was tinker and verify, unless I had actually read the stories themselves. I assumed, wrongly it seems, that there were readers of these classic authors working on this site. I try, but I can only read so much. Remember, buy, then verify. Oh, and thanks for the heads up, and feel free to change any mistakes. MLB 18:56, 10 September 2017 (EDT)
Thanks, and welcome back. --Vasha 22:00, 10 September 2017 (EDT)

Dark Shadows - New Series Numbering

I originally accepted your re-numbering of Dark Shadows - New Series, but I've switched them back. There already was a book 2. It just wasn't written by Lara Parker. Parker did write the introduction for it however. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 08:40, 16 September 2017 (EDT)

Well, okay. I was just going by what Amazon stated. I should have checked first. Sorry. MLB 12:53, 16 September 2017 (EDT)

verification Request

Could you please take a look at Steampunk Cthulhu and see if DJ Tyrer's name is spelled "D. J." or "DJ" in it? If necessary, please change the records to the correct form... thanks! --Vasha 00:52, 22 September 2017 (EDT)

Tales of Mystery and Terror

Hi, I've added Marjorie P. Katz as author to Tales of Mystery and Terror, so I can merge Tales of Mystery and Terror with Tales of Mystery and Terror. If you follow the links, you'll find it less crazy than it reads here.--Dirk P Broer 08:02, 3 October 2017 (EDT)

The Secret Garden

Hi, I've added Malvina G. Vogel as author to The Secret Garden, as it is an abridged adaption. May want to make it a chapterbook too.--Dirk P Broer 08:08, 3 October 2017 (EDT)

Minor correction to verified publication

In The Thing in the Swamp and More Not-So-Scary Stories I changed the publisher from "Prentice Hall" to "Prentice-Hall." --Vasha 09:54, 12 October 2017 (EDT)

Okay. MLB 22:25, 13 October 2017 (EDT)

The Devil's Playground

I've updated the Printing History for The Devil's Playground. I've changed the interior artist's name to ' Agnieszka Michalska' (with an "h") as that is how it is spelt on the Copyright Page and there are no other links to the other name. --AndyjMo 08:57, 14 October 2017 (EDT)

Thanks, and thanks for revealing my super-hero identity as "Super Typo Man" (c). MLB 13:57, 14 October 2017 (EDT)

Don't Open This Book!

In Don't Open This Book!, would you please verify the story on page 127 is by Patrick LoBrutto and not Patrick Lobutto? I meant to hold an edit changing it from the latter to the former, but approved it instead. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 16:52, 23 October 2017 (EDT)

Ah yes, typos. I do believe you got that right. Feel free to change. MLB 19:30, 23 October 2017 (EDT)

Armchair Fiction cover scans

Hi Mark, just a heads-up that deep-links to Armchair Fiction covers, while entirely OK and within the rules, can result in the display of a full size image over 3000 pixels wide and more than 7Mb in size, and are therefore very slow to load and display. I've taken the liberty to replace the cover for Cosmic Kill/Beyond the End of Space with a 95k image file instead. Thanks. PeteYoung 17:29, 31 October 2017 (EDT)

That's fine, but I should inform you that this image didn't come from me. I was looking up one of the authors and noticed that one of the covers was from Emsh (it is signed) and thought that I would identify it. MLB 02:08, 1 November 2017 (EDT)

Tales of Terror

I accepted Tales of Terror, but had a question: Is the essay by Nelson Omsted actually titled by his name or was that an error? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 12:11, 5 November 2017 (EST)

Indeed. There is an introductory paragraph then four paragraphs of Nelson Omsted talking about his life. Not really any different than so many of these things that are found in the pulps. MLB 22:15, 5 November 2017 (EST)

The world's finest mystery etc. no. 1

I've looked through The World's Finest Mystery and Crime Stories; First Annual Collection which you verified and have a few changes to suggest. (On a minor matter, that semicolon in the title should be a colon as is standard for this DB.)

  1. "The Mummy Case" is subtitled "A Midnight Louie Past Life Adventure" at the head of the story.
  2. I'd like to mark "The Case of the Headless Witness" nongenre; Biggle may be a genre writer, but this particular story isn't.
  3. Conversely, "'53 Buick" and "Not Long Now" are speculative and should be added.
  4. I think Joyce Carol Oates counts as an author of genre significance, so maybe add "The Dark Prince" and mark it nongenre.
  5. Are you sure it's a good idea to include separate records for the author bios? They're really quite short.

--Vasha 17:54, 7 November 2017 (EST)

Ah yes, the first year of my tenure here, back when I was honing my ability to create typos to that of a fine art. I just skimmed through this collection so I concede that I may have missed some, and made mistakes on others. I will correct #1-4, and #5. Yes. Unfortunately, you'll have to add the notes as my copy seems to have gone walkabout. Much has changed around here, and in my life, so a lot of books went into storage, this was one of them. MLB 21:24, 7 November 2017 (EST)

With the Lightnings

My copy of With the Lightnings has the Copyright date as 1998. Is the date of 1995 in the current record a typing error? --AndyjMo 12:32, 12 November 2017 (EST)

Out of this World Adventures, December 1950

Hi Mark. I've added the cover artist to the December 1950 issue of Out of This World Adventures of which you've verified the reprint. The artist is identified in Miller/Contento and in another book that I'm in the process of entering. I've got a few other changes that I'd like to make, but since they will affect both our publications I'm discussing them first. For the comics in the center of the magazine, I think these should be split into two titles each. One for the short fiction, another for the illustration. We don't have written standard for this situation since comics are not ordinarily eligible. However, I've added other comics in this manner (with 2 titles) when they've occurred in other genre magazines or collections. I'd also recommend that we use the pseudonyms as credited for Kubert (J. Kubert) and Wollheim (D.A.W.). These are already mentioned in the notes. I've also taken a stab at deciphering the signature for the artwork on page 83. With the aid of a magnifying glass, it looks to me like it might be "William McWilliams". Lastly, I also noticed that you don't have the illustration that appears on page 43. While that may be by design, I don't think the reprint would omit that one based on where it appears in the original. Let me know how you feel about my proposed changes. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 12:47, 12 November 2017 (EST)

First: feel free to revamp any and all of my entry for the December 1950 issue of Out of This World Adventures. Second: When I first found this site the pulp was listed, but when I entered the facsimile the pulp had been deleted (?). I suppose because of the comic content, but the pulp was reentered using my facsimiles as a model. How you enter comics is how I now enter comics and comic strips. I've never heard of a William McWilliams before but there was a comic artist by the name of A. McWilliams. You can check out his signiture here in my Amazon review where I also post some (poor) scans of McWilliams artwork. There is also a signature example here. Still, congrats on possibly discovering a new artist. As I said, please feel free to change any and all of my entry to make it better. MLB 18:03, 12 November 2017 (EST)
One last thing, I remember reading somewhere that E. J. Bellin was a pseudonym of C. M. Kornbluth, but I wouldn't swear to it. MLB

18:17, 12 November 2017 (EST)

Just discovered this on this site. Maybe? MLB 18:24, 12 November 2017 (EST)
Also, this site tells all. MLB 18:33, 12 November 2017 (EST)
Excellent research! I've made the edits. Let me know if you see anything else that needs to be changed. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 21:09, 13 November 2017 (EST)
Looks good. I also added, when accepted, the above internet comics.org address to this page. MLB 00:30, 14 November 2017 (EST)

"Hearing Aid" by David Langford

In your verified publication 100 Hilarious Little Howlers, "Hearing Aid" by David Langford appears. There was a note with a recent anthology publication of this story: "David Langford's 'Hearing Aid' first appeared in SF in Practical Computing (London, October 1982) in a badly mutilated form; reprinted in full in Phoenix magazine (Wantage, August 1983)." (But I have not seen the story itself to be able to make a comparison of texts.) Is there any information in 100 Hilarious Little Howlers that would allow you to figure out whether it is reprinted from SF in Practical Computing or in full there? --Vasha 21:51, 12 November 2017 (EST)

Here is what the acknowledgements page sez: "Hearing Aid by David Langford, copyright 1982 David Langford. Reprinted by permission of the author." Which tells us little, although I can gather from the copyright date, that your information is correct, although this still doesn't tell us if the version in the 100 Hilarious Little Howlers anthology is the full version or not. I can type out random paragraphs if you want, but as my scanner is taking a vacation (damn those scanner gremlins!!) I can't scan random pages for you. MLB 22:51, 13 November 2017 (EST)
Wouldn't help, I don't have the text of either version to compare. I merely made a note on the story saying that we don't know which version is in Hilarious Little Howlers. Thanks for checking. --Vasha 22:54, 13 November 2017 (EST)
Pete Young contacted the author and figured matters out (all reprints are the full version) and I have updated the note. --Vasha 12:40, 28 November 2017 (EST)

Cover2s

Hi, Mark Louis! I have transformed the second cover for Amazing Stories Replicas, May, 1944—Vol. 18, No. 3 into a piece of interior art, as that's the way we handle art reproduced on back covers. A Cover2 is possible on dos format publications or publications that reproduce more than one cover art pieces on their cover (such as OMNIBUSes). Thanks, Christian Stonecreek 02:57, 16 November 2017 (EST)

Cosmos

Regarding your note in the submission, where are you trying to add Binder? I am not sure what you are trying to do so I do not know how to answer the question :) Annie 12:38, 20 November 2017 (EST)

Eando Binder is, at the time of Cosmo's writing two people, Earl Binder and Otto Binder. So I wasn't sure, in this mess of names how to list a joint pseudonym. MLB 15:47, 20 November 2017 (EST)
Ah, I see. I would add it as 1 person on the original title (as used then - Eando) and then make it 2 names in the parent so it goes to the proper pages. Let me know if you would like me to fix that? Think of it this way - the original record should have the names as listed (plus standardization for capital letters and so on) and then in the adding of the parent, you replace the pseudonym name with the list of names needed (so it goes in their proper pages). If that means that 5 authors become 20 once the pseudonyms are split so be it. Annie 15:51, 20 November 2017 (EST)
Yeah, please go a head and do it. It would probably save a couple of steps. MLB 15:53, 20 November 2017 (EST)
Take a look and tell me if that looks fine. All that seemed to remain was to add Otto Binder to the parent. :) Annie 16:09, 20 November 2017 (EST)
And does this invalidate this? Or does yet another variant needed? Annie 16:10, 20 November 2017 (EST)
Looks fine. And yes, Lloyd Arthur Eshbach invalidates Lloyd A. Eshbach. This is a messy submission, sorry for the trouble. MLB 16:17, 20 November 2017 (EST)
Not a problem at all. Multi-author books are a pain (especially when we have joint pseudonyms). Why cannot people just use one name... Annie 16:19, 20 November 2017 (EST)
Should I just leave this submission alone now, or should I list the contests, as each chapter is written by a different author. MLB 16:24, 20 November 2017 (EST)
This is the reprint of something in a fanzine, right? Was it a serial in the fanzine or presented as individual stories? If it is a classical serial there, I would leave it as is. If they were stories that we want to connect one on one, then list the content. I had never seen the fanzine but I had seen novels like that - and I would not list the separate chapters one by one... But as you are the verifier, up to you. Annie 16:30, 20 November 2017 (EST)
This was serialized as a series of separate booklets attached to a regularly published fanzine. Or so I understand. Precocious as he was, Dad was still only three at the time of this novel's serialization, so I have no personal knowledge of Cosmos' printing history except from what I have read. I think that I'll just leave it as it is. MLB 16:47, 20 November 2017 (EST)

High Adventure, #155

I accepted High Adventure, #155, but the submission had a bad ISBN (missing the "-594" from the middle). I found it on Amazon and in Amazon's Look Inside, so I corrected it. --MartyD 05:59, 21 November 2017 (EST)

Horns

http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?340003 since you're the primary verifier... could you check as to whether the listed "Acknowledgements, Notes, Confessions" is a typo of "Acknowledgments, Notes, Confessions"? that's the title in the copy i'm looking at. thanks. gzuckier 22:41, 26 November 2017 (EST)

Yes, it's a typo. MLB 16:30, 27 November 2017 (EST)
I just put the request on hold. From the looks of it, the essay in its current name is used in only 2 publications - yours (above) and its 11th printing - I suspect it is in both because of an import. So instead of removing it from your publication and adding a new one (which then will need to be varianted and I suspect then deleted when we chase down the other copy), I am planning to ping the other verifier, make sure it is indeed a typo there and then just rename the essay itself. Any objections? Or is there anything I am overlooking? Annie 17:20, 28 November 2017 (EST)
No, that is fine with me. MLB 17:22, 28 November 2017 (EST)
Note left - once Susan responds back, I will either accept your update and do all needed variants and deletions to finalize or reject your update and just rename the thing. Thanks! Annie 17:26, 28 November 2017 (EST)
let me go grab the book...Acknowledgments, Notes, Confessions Susan O'Fearna 11:47, 29 November 2017 (EST)
Thanks! Essay name adjusted and we are all set. Annie 11:52, 29 November 2017 (EST)

The Man Eater

I added some notes to this pub regarding source of art credit and international prices. Doug H 21:32, 5 December 2017 (EST)

Yeah, I suspect that Shroud Publishing was a bit liberal in its editing practices, but couldn't prove anything. So, thanks. MLB 23:28, 5 December 2017 (EST)

1923 Alice omnibus

Hi. You verified the 1923 omnibus P390680 with 4 plates by Edwin John Prittie, and I suppose you are the author of the entire record.

I submitted publication update that reconciles the second illustrator name as "Edwin John Prittie" (the correct full name), rather than "Ewin John Prittie" in three listed Contents. And I added External links to two WorldCat records that report:

"xiii, 319 pages, [4] leaves of plates : illustrations (some color) ; 22 cm."
"xiv, 319 pages : illustrations (some color) ; 23 cm"

Your page-count 149+166 implies two series of arabic page numbers. from the page-numbered Contents imply a single series. I suppose that we/you should follow one of the WorldCat records (xiii+319, xiv+319) or nearly so if that can be improved.

To be continued --if I find more information about the book. I am disappointed to find in auto-search of 1920 to 1925 newspapers no hits for ("Edwin John Prittie") or (alice prittie). But encouraged in a way to find only one hit for any book that he illustrated, a single notice of The Mary Frances Story Book by Jane Eayre Fryer. I don't really doubt the 1923 date.

I added information at Edwin John Prittie, also in the submission queue as I write. --Pwendt|talk 17:41, 6 December 2017 (EST)

Well, thanks for the added information. I found this book at a church book sale. Edwin John Prittie may have been a professional free-lance artist who did work for forgotten or non-genre sources. Sadly, so many contributors to literature are now lost to time, as their contributions were never seriously documented. MLB 18:37, 6 December 2017 (EST)

Splatterspunk: The Micah Hayes Stories

Hi, you verified this pub. I'm going to to add the German translation and found some inconsistencies: A) The foreword in the German book is credited to Micah Hayes, not Mikah Hayes, B) The Prologue is not an ESSAY but a fictional text and should be defined with type SHORTFICTION C)There is an "Epilogue" at the end of the German book. Is this missing in the English original? Thank you very much! Boskar 08:43, 16 December 2017 (EST)

And does it seem reasonable that the foreword is really by the two authors? Stonecreek 08:50, 16 December 2017 (EST)
There was a time when I bought and read everything by Edward Lee, but then I kinda lost interest. Do to that and some personal upheavals in my life that book got kinda shuffled off somewhere, but I did read it so, from my memory: If there was a Epilogue, I would have listed it, I think. When I can, I'll look for the book to see. A foreword by two authors? Not unusual when the book is by two writers.
Michah Hayes instead of Mikah Hayes? Typo.
I believe that I entered this entry before I read it, so if you say so, then the Prologue by Hayes is a piece of fiction. I can change that.
When I can, I'll try to find this book and see what it sez about some of my omissions. MLB 00:29, 18 December 2017 (EST)
With the 'foreword by two authors' I meant that 'Micah Hayes' may be just a pseudonym for the two authors. Stonecreek 03:47, 18 December 2017 (EST)
Well, it seems the most likely thing and I established a variant. Christian Stonecreek 09:01, 20 December 2017 (EST)

13: Resurrected: An Anthology Of Horror and Dark Fiction

Please do a date correction first for the contents (and the title) of this anthology; now: 2017-12-09. Thanks, Christian Stonecreek 05:16, 20 December 2017 (EST)

Aye-aye. MLB 05:27, 20 December 2017 (EST)

Cemetery Dance #70

I believe there is a typo in the last content item here --Vasha 21:51, 29 December 2017 (EST)

It'll take a while to track down that issue, but, yeah, that sentence hurts. MLB 21:58, 29 December 2017 (EST)

Dene Bebbington or Debe Bebbington ...

... in The Ripple Effect, or both? Christian Stonecreek 16:04, 30 December 2017 (EST)

No, it's a typo, and Dene. Will change. Don't know how other people do it, but I had to hand copy the contents, and then type them onto this site. Trying to read my writing is a dangerous thing. MLB 23:09, 30 December 2017 (EST)
Well, I usually do a double-check and copy & paste the names already entered; one or the other error does slip through this way, alas. Have a good end of the year! Christian Stonecreek 06:06, 31 December 2017 (EST)
And may you have a good end of the year also! MLB 18:02, 31 December 2017 (EST)
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