User talk:MLB/Archive/2018Jul-Dec

Thrilling Wonder Stories: Adventure House Reprints

Hi, Mark! The first two titles in this series are indexed as MAGAZINES, while the rest are catalogued as ANTHOLOGIES. But shouldn't they be all of the same type (and it seems to me they are of the latter type). Christian Stonecreek 11:23, 5 July 2018 (EDT)

Yes. Period. I was sloppy, I'll change. MLB 00:05, 6 July 2018 (EDT)

Brandy Leah Schwan

I'm holding several edits to make poems by Brandy Leah Schwan variants of new titles by "Brandy Schwan". We currently have "Brandy Leah Schwan" as the canonical name with "Brandy Schwan" as the pseudonym and making these variants is the reverse of that relationship. This could make sense if you are attempting to make "Brandy Schwan" the canonical title and these were the first edits of a multi edit process. However, since 12 out of the 15 poems we have listed are by "Brandy Leah Schwan", the relationship of canonical to pseudonym seems correct. Is there something else that I'm missing that you are trying to accomplish? Thanks. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 09:26, 15 July 2018 (EDT)

The website that goes with the author is in the name of Brandy Leah Schwan, just like the majority of the work we have for her too.--Dirk P Broer 18:50, 15 July 2018 (EDT)

Cancelled my submissions. She seems to have published her poetry collections under the Brandy Schwan name, but not having seen them in person, I don't know what's on the title page. MLB 20:18, 15 July 2018 (EDT)

Translations

I approved Il branco, but a couple of notes on entering translations:

1. When entering a new pub that is a translation, please be sure to enter the translator(s) in the title notes field.
2. When entering a translator, please enter using the translator template: {{TR|NAME}}. This is to allow future implementation of a translator field.

Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 10:00, 21 July 2018 (EDT)

New stuff to learn all of the time. Okay. MLB 19:22, 21 July 2018 (EDT)

K. H. Vaugh(a)n

Could you check Dark Discoveries #26 and see if K. H. Vaughan's name is really printed "Vaughn" on page 104? Thanks. --Vasha (cazadora de tildes) 17:35, 24 July 2018 (EDT)

I'm pretty sure that you're right and it was a ham-fisted typo. Will double check soon. Unlike many of my books, I know where this one is at. MLB 01:53, 27 July 2018 (EDT)

The Ultimax Man

I'm replacing the Amazon cover and cleaning up the notes of this pub [1]. Thanks, Sjmathis 09:40, 26 July 2018 (EDT)

Asimov's Science Fiction, July-August 2018

See my suggestion here. --Zapp 10:45, 28 July 2018 (EDT)

This seems to be your special field of interest, not mine, so I'll take your word for it. MLB 04:25, 29 July 2018 (EDT)

Dead of Night #13, Summer 1995

Hello,

You have two interior art records from Koszowski in Dead of Night #13, Summer 1995 - one on page 25 and one on the back cover. We need to disambiguate them somehow - either by a name change or something else (and if they are the same, variant the two records). Thanks! Annie 11:14, 30 July 2018 (EDT)

I think that ought to do it. MLB 14:02, 30 July 2018 (EDT)

All-American Horror of the 21st Century: The First Decade 2000-2010

I have approved this submission and made the following changes as per Amazon's Look Inside:

• Changed F. Paul Wilson's "Night Drive" to "Night Dive"
• Changed "Mart Powers" to "Mark Powers"
• Merged various duplicates
• Turned "Steagal's Barber Shoppe and Smoke Emporium" into a variant of "Steagal's Barbershoppe and Smoke Emporium"

A couple of questions:

• Would you happen to know if John Everson's novel The Pumpkin Man and his stories "Pumpkin Head" and "The Pumpkin Man" are related?
• Amazon's Look Inside is based on a scan of the 2016 edition. Are we sure that the 2013 edition used the same page numbers?

Ahasuerus 12:22, 1 August 2018 (EDT)

I noticed the mistakes but awaited the approval of my submission to correct them, otherwise I would have had to do it all over again. Thanks.

HellifIknow. Not much of a reader of Everson. While I have read some of his stuff, I've neither read, nor do I own, any of the of the "Pumpkin Man" stuff.

No, I don't know, and you know what they say about assuming. Do you want me to delete the page numbers? MLB 17:41, 1 August 2018 (EDT)

I think it would be safer to delete the page numbers. You know how publishers can be when reprinting books: sometimes things change and other times they don't. Thanks! Ahasuerus 18:27, 1 August 2018 (EDT)

Battle Scars

Wanted to let you know I submitted change to notes for your verified pub Battle Scars as follows: oclc moved + statement removed that no WorldCat records existed at time of listing. I verified today, and now WorldCat record 874762367 shows book is carried in several libraries. MagicUnk 12:25, 9 August 2018 (EDT)

Alright, thanks. MLB 18:19, 9 August 2018 (EDT)

Unexpected World

Just a note to let you know that the Amazon API confirms that this publication doesn't have an ISBN. Unfortunately, in most cases Amazon doesn't display ISBNs for e-books even if they exist, so we have to check programmatically. There is a weekly reconciliation process in place. Ahasuerus 14:39, 15 August 2018 (EDT)

Okay. Must have done so by accident. MLB 02:47, 16 August 2018 (EDT)

Sorry, I must not have been clear. Your submission didn't include an ISBN. I was just confirming that, according to Amazon's internal data, there is no ISBN associated with the book.

The problem with ebooks is that even though some of them do have ISBNs, Amazon only displays ebook ASINs -- but not ISBNs -- on its Web pages. You have to query their internal database programmatically to see if an ebook has an ISBN in addition to an ASIN. It's clearly a part of their plot to take over the galaxy! :-) Ahasuerus 09:19, 16 August 2018 (EDT)

Weiblich, ledig, untot

Your PV pub is the only one of publisher Lyx / Egmont. All the others with the same Logo oncover are of LXY. Maybe it's to think about changing? --Zapp 05:54, 26 August 2018 (EDT)

Will do. MLB 20:33, 26 August 2018 (EDT)

Cafe Purgatorium review in Midnight Zoo v2n3

I think the Cafe Purgatorium review in Midnight Zoo v2n3 should use "Charles de Lint" instead of "Charles DeLint", with the discrepancy noted (if the "DeLint" is accurate). We have no other instances of the latter. --MartyD 10:53, 8 September 2018 (EDT)

Okay, just copying down what I saw. MLB 10:55, 8 September 2018 (EDT)

Man or Men?

Hi, Mark Louis! Could you please take a look at the C. Stuart Hardwick shortfiction on p. 83 of Analog 9/16? There's a 2018 reprinted story by him with nearly the same title. Thanks, Christian Stonecreek 09:25, 15 September 2018 (EDT)

I will try to track it down. MLB 16:47, 15 September 2018 (EDT)

Gutenberg Links

There is no point to adding Gutenberg links. Since they are specific to an individual publication, they don't really belong at the title level. Also, the Gutenberg publications automatically link to the Project Gutenberg website. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 16:55, 15 September 2018 (EDT)

John Victor Peterso

I went ahead and changed it to John Victor Peterson. The only thing visible in the Amazon Look Inside is the copyright page and we credit per the title page. It is likely the typo was only on the copyright statement and the title page is correct. In that case, it's not worth waiting until it is verified to correct it. If someone gets the book and finds the title page is wrong also, the pseudonym can be created at that time. I added a note regarding the issue to the pub notes. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 08:52, 16 September 2018 (EDT)

That's fine with me, but if you were to check the trade paperback version you would see how sloppy Positronic Press is. MLB 16:47, 16 September 2018 (EDT)

Matching Variants

When we have variants that match (title, language, & pseudonym), we merge the variants together. We don't have duplicate variants under the same parent. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 17:40, 17 September 2018 (EDT)

typo in Asimov's, Mar-Apr 2018

In Asimov's, March-April 2018 the title of the story on page 96 is perhaps-erroneously given as "Seven Months Out an Two to Go" --Vasha (cazadora de tildes) 12:01, 19 September 2018 (EDT)

Fixed. MLB 16:23, 19 September 2018 (EDT)

The Barbarians

Hello,

I just rejected this one. Same title, same author name, same language - that should be a merge and not a variant. Or am I missing something? Thanks! Annie 21:39, 2 October 2018 (EDT)

It's been published as by John Sentry and John A. Sentry, technically different names. Personally, I would trust Psychotronic Publishing as far as I could throw them, but John Sentry is the name this story is listed under on Amazon. MLB 21:43, 2 October 2018 (EDT)

But you are trying to variant the two parents (these two records have the author set as Algis Budrys - created to get the stories into the proper author page), not the two Sentry records. They need to be merged - that will put both their children (the two Sentry records under the same parent - the newly merged record). If we variant them, then we will need to go and delete the one that is now a child (and I don't like doing two actions when I can do just one) :) Annie 21:48, 2 October 2018 (EDT)

Oh. ***blush-blush*** I'm so embarrassed. MLB 21:50, 2 October 2018 (EDT)

Done. Now I know. MLB 21:51, 2 October 2018 (EDT)

Approved. Variant + delete would have done the same - but a merge is still cleaner and does not require a follow up. Thanks for the fast reaction! Annie 21:54, 2 October 2018 (EDT)

"My Base Pair" in May/June Analog

According to Rocket Stack Rank "My Base Pair" on page 101 of this year's May/June Analog is 9,493 words long although labeled "short story" in the magazine ... please check this and correct the DB if necessary --Vasha (cazadora de tildes) 07:23, 23 October 2018 (EDT)

Addendum: typo alerts: "A Barrow for the Living" in May/June p. 118; "The Unnecessary Parts of the Story" in Sept/Oct p. 58 --Vasha (cazadora de tildes) 07:36, 23 October 2018 (EDT)

Yes, stupid me :(. I corrected the typos for "A Barrow for the Living" and "The Unnecessary Parts of the Story". "My Base Pair" is listed as a short story in the magazine. I have no intention of checking the wordage of every story in every magazine, collection, or anthology that I list. I just have to take the editor's word for it. Honestly, I have seen novelettes as (X) pages long, while an accompanying short story 1½ times as long. That's a insane number of mountains of words to check, and I don't want to take a trip to arrive at the mountains of madness. MLB 19:56, 23 October 2018 (EDT)

I certainly agree that one should not normally check lengths if the editors are helpful enough to tell you the length class! But my point was that RSR said, giving an alleged exact word count, that there's an error in the magazine. It should be not too hard to verify by eyeballing the pages whether the story is really a full 2,000 words over the short story limit; then put the real length into the DB with a note of the error in the magazine. I would do it myself except I don't know where to get a copy of the magazine. --Vasha (cazadora de tildes) 20:18, 23 October 2018 (EDT)

Beastmaster: Symbiosis

Hello,

Can you check your BN number in this one? It does not find anything on Barnes and Noble... Is it by any chance another type of identifier? GoodReads? OCLC? Something else? Annie 21:34, 24 October 2018 (EDT)

Ah what a dope am I. Fixed. MLB 21:38, 24 October 2018 (EDT)

Happens to us all. Approved :) Annie 21:51, 24 October 2018 (EDT)

Flotsam submissions

Hi. There were three submissions by you of new novels, Flotsam. I accepted this one, but the other two I have on hold because they look like duplicates due to a double re-submit. Let me know if I'm missing something -- it certainly would not be the first time! --MartyD 16:42, 4 November 2018 (EST)

No, you got it right. A recent computer melt-down has me working on a new computer with sub-par programs. For some reason, it sometimes duplicates submissions. I usually catch them, but I guess I didn't this time. I'll add the alternate (ebook and audio) versions a little later. I'll delete the other submissions and then link the review. MLB 17:17, 4 November 2018 (EST)

Flotsam

Can you check your BN link here? It does not lead to a valid page. Is it because your IDs are not the ones we expect or is something else going on? Thanks! Annie 22:18, 4 November 2018 (EST)

Looks like I've been copying the wrong number all of this time. Unless somebody's got a good suggestion on how to fix this, I got a lot of repairwork to do. MLB 22:36, 4 November 2018 (EST)

Can you post here the correct page for that book and I will see if I can rig something up to find the correct link for the rest of the ones we have? We have less than 1K BN identifiers in the DB so if I know what I am looking at, that won't take that long and there may be a way to automate a bit... Annie 23:05, 4 November 2018 (EST)

here is the page and what I was doing was copying the first number instead of the second. I hate this. MLB 23:22, 4 November 2018 (EST)

We have some good news - most if not all the valid ones start with 294 (that's the BN ISBN-ish start) - which catches 513 from the BN ones we have in the DB. There are 106 starting with 1 and a handful in the higher numbers. There are 2 in the starting with two that are not 294 ones - these two will take digging but I will find them (or we can ignore them until someone stumbles on them). Leave these with me this/next week - I am traveling so not sure if I will get to them tomorrow but I will clear them up. I'll do a spot check on the 294 ones but I am pretty sure they are in the clear. Will ping you if I cannot find something :) Annie 23:38, 4 November 2018 (EST)

Bless you. I don't know how to thank you (but, no, you can't have my bank account number) :). MLB 01:45, 5 November 2018 (EST)

No worries at all. One thing I discovered while digging - we need a BN number recorded only if the book does not have an ISBN or it differs from the ISBN for some reason - this is an EAN number that seems to be the same as ISBN13 when it exists. Which means that if you see one starting with 978/979, we do not need it in the BN field - the standard links work for those; we need only the 294 ones :). Should make everyone's life easier...

On a related note, I tracked down the two non 294 ones that started with 2 - turned out to be Goodreads and not BN IDs coded as BN ones :) I will keep working on the ones that do not fit the pattern. Annie 02:23, 5 November 2018 (EST)

(unindent) Took me a bit longer to get to them than I thought but these are all cleaned now :) Annie 21:44, 10 December 2018 (EST)

Old queries

I am going through my watchlist looking for unanswered queries. There are three on your page that may have slipped your mind: this, this, and this. For the first two, if you can't find your copy of those publications, I think it'd be OK to go ahead and fix them anyway. The third one's not all that important ... --Vasha (cazadora de tildes) 11:32, 6 November 2018 (EST)

The Witch of Blackbird Pond

Please come participate in this discussion. Thanks! ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 15:04, 15 November 2018 (EST) Since it was decided that this book does not contain any speculative fiction elements, here's the publication information if you wish to keep it:

• Publication: The Witch of Blackbird Pond Publication Record # 580177 [Edit]
• Author: Elizabeth George Speare
• Date: 1973-01-00
• Catalog ID: 9577
• Publisher: Dell
• Price: $0.75
• Pages: 223
• Format: pb
• Type: NOVEL
• Notes:
  • Printing history:
    • First Dell printing—April 1971
    • Second Dell Printing—August 1971
    • Third Dell Printing—October 1971
    • Fourth Dell printing—March 1972
    • Fifth Dell printing—July 1972
    • Sixth Dell printing—September 1972
    • Seventh Dell printing—January 1973
  • No number line
  • The artist is not credited, no visible signature on the artwork
  • Printed in the US
• External IDs:
  • OCLC/WorldCat: 779053205

···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 13:52, 19 November 2018 (EST)

Thanks for the information. MLB 15:04, 19 November 2018 (EST)

Sister Satan

Hello,

Are you sure this is not the same as this? Same date, same ISBN. I can see the different publisher but I just cannot imagine two publishers publishing the same book in pb at the same time with the same ISBN? What do you think? Annie 01:31, 16 November 2018 (EST)

Banner of Truth, like BMI, or Book Margins was an instant remainder arm of Leisure. I remember walking into drugstores and big retailers here in Michigan, and seeing bins of books, westerns, romances, sf, horror, mysteries all tossed in there under either the Banner of Truth, or the BMI imprint, and ALL were former Leisure, Love Spell, or Dorchester books. Dorchester was known for many shady deals, they started off as a tax dodge as a porn publisher, dealing with their properties. They were being sued by many people when they finally gave up the ghost. There was a lot written about them on the internet and in the fan/semi-prozines during their last days. It all happened before you arrived on our shores I believe. It wouldn't be the first time either. During the seventies Gold Key and Charlton Comics published assorted comics under a different name and sold them in big retail stores in remainder plastic bags, Belmont (or was it McFadden?) published a special "4 for a dollar" bunch of paperbacks that were only sold in K-Mart stores, hence the "4 for a dollar" stick printed right on the cover, Zebra Books were printed under a different name in Canada (I got some), the whole Belmont/Unibooks thing. And those are just off the top of my head. It wasn't unusual for the shady lower tier companies to publish knock off of their own books. So, yes they would. I need a life. MLB 05:19, 16 November 2018 (EST)

There is a Banner of Truth site here, but I hardly think that they were the publisher mentioned. MLB 05:37, 16 November 2018 (EST)

Also if you want to learn more about some of the shady things Leisure/Dorchester was involved in check this out. Most of the info about Dorchester has been scrubbed from the internet. MLB 06:58, 16 November 2018 (EST)

Thanks for the explanation. :) Submission approved. I will update the publisher's notes later today so that the next person does not end up wondering what is going on. I had read some of those stories through the years but between growing up elsewhere and never seeing a fanzine until a few years ago, I miss some of the backstory :) Annie 13:57, 16 November 2018 (EST)

Audible ASINs

Hello,

Audible Audiobooks have two ASINs - the one that Amazon shows (this one still goes into the ASIN field); and the one you can find by going into Audible - which goes into the Audible ASIN field. I edited this one - moved the one you had in the Audible field to the ASIN one and added the real Audible one. Annie 22:56, 16 November 2018 (EST)

Fixed the rest that you submitted in the last batch as well. :) Annie 23:00, 16 November 2018 (EST)

***Sigh***

Call for Obstruction

You are editing the tp version to make it into an ebook. Did you mean to clone instead? The current record appears valid. -- JLaTondre (talk) 17:01, 20 November 2018 (EST)

Yes, I'll cancel my submission. MLB 17:12, 20 November 2018 (EST)

Scierogenous II submission

Hi. Sorry, but the system forced me to reject your Scierogenous II submission because one of the contained titles present when you cloned it is gone (probably the subject of a previously-submitted merge that was accepted). You'll need to redo it. You should be able to get at all of the information in the submission. Let me know if you can't, and I can get it for you. I don't have time this morning to do it myself. --MartyD 06:10, 21 November 2018 (EST)

Tales of Mystery and Terror, Edgar Allan Poe and Marjorie P. Katz (1994 & 2008)

Hi, I've imported content for your verified copies of Tales of Mystery and Terror (1994) and Tales of Mystery and Terror (2008) from Tales of Mystery and Terror (unknown).--Dirk P Broer 11:27, 4 December 2018 (EST)

Okey dokey, thanks for letting me know that I was of use. MLB 19:10, 4 December 2018 (EST)

Tales of the Unanticipated #30

Hi -- I'm trying to figure out whether the K. C. Wilder who has a poem in your verified publication Tales of the Unanticipated #30 is this one or this one; it presumably must be the former, the poet/musician rather than the novelist, but I'd like confirmation. Could you check the bio information and also see if the name is printed with or without periods (the poet/musician doesn't use periods usually). Thanks. --Vasha (cazadora de tildes) 19:18, 7 December 2018 (EST)

Five years is a long time in dog years, and a lot has happened around here since then. I really don't know where it is, but I too suspect that it is the former, but I just don't know. I can try and do some research on this author but right now I am a bit busy. MLB 19:50, 7 December 2018 (EST)

Well, I presume it would be OK if I assumed the author was K. C. Wilder the poet and not K. C. Wilder (I) the writer of a young-adult paranormal novel and kept it filed on the former author page. No need to look it up. thanks. --Vasha (cazadora de tildes) 19:55, 7 December 2018 (EST)

Factor Four Magazine

Hi, I have put your submission for updating an issue on hold as you give an unusual page count (i+56), which is quite impossible per our rules. Can you give the actual structure of the page count? Christian Stonecreek 10:39, 13 December 2018 (EST)

In Amazon's "Look Inside" feature, the Notes From the Editor page is listed as being on page "i". However, the "Look Inside" feature doesn't show that page, so I only listed "i" as I don't know how many actual pages that this introductory article actually has. I guess the primary verifier will have to put the correct page number. I was just updating the Hayley Stone page when I came across this magazine. That's the long and short of everything. MLB 18:19, 13 December 2018 (EST)

Venom vs Vicious?

You recently entered 696420, the title of which does not match the show cover. Can you check? MagicUnk 01:36, 14 December 2018 (EST)

Dammit, dammit, dammit. You're definitely right. Will correct immediately. Thanks for catching that. MLB 02:37, 14 December 2018 (EST)

Analog, April 2016

Contacting you as a verifier of Analog, April 2016. Various secondary sources say that issue contains "Lonely Hearts of the Spinward Ring" but our record doesn't show it. --Vasha (cazadora de tildes) 11:23, 16 December 2018 (EST)

The Icy Touch

Added cover scan to your verified The Icy Touch.SFJuggler 14:38, 16 December 2018 (EST)

This keeps happening. I know that I used Amazon for a cover image, but that listing must of changed, and the image was lost. So thanks. MLB 21:29, 16 December 2018 (EST)

Landrigan's essay

Hello and happy holidays,

Why is the Landrigan's essay in Alfred Hichcock's Mystery Magazine, January-February 2019 eligible for inclusion? I'd check it myself but my magazine is not here yet :) Annie 00:32, 26 December 2018 (EST)

It was the introduction to the E. F. Benson ghost story. Landrigan talks a little about Benson, his collection (where his story is reprinted from), and, briefly, about the story itself. It's about a third of a page long, if that helps. Oh, and I hope you are having some happy holiday memories yourself. MLB 02:41, 26 December 2018 (EST)

Thanks! And yeah - then it qualifies. :) Annie 02:42, 26 December 2018 (EST)

Aerie Books Ltd./The War of the Worlds

The publisher Aerie Books Ltd. is currently known in this database as "Aerie" but, judging from some of their books I've seen, the form they use on both title pages and copyright pages is "Aerie Books Ltd." I am going to request the publisher name be edited if verifiers confirm; please check your book The Legend of Sleepy Hollow or The War of the Worlds or the other The War of the Worlds. Thanks!

With regards to those WotW editions ... I have one with the ISBN 0-938-81910-0 using the same cover art as your ISBN 0-938-81975-5. Mine states on the copyright page, "All new material in this edition is copyright © 1986, 1987 by Aerie Books Ltd." Worldcat has a date of 1987 for this ISBN so I've gone with that.

See the note on this unverified publication for why "The Life of H. G. Wells," unsigned and undated in my edition, is in the database as by James Gunn, 1986. --Vasha (cazadora de tildes) 23:02, 31 December 2018 (EST)

It doesn't really matter. It's been done before. That is, standardizing a publisher. Numerous publishers constantly shade their names. If it is the same company, instead of having multiple versions of the name of the same company so you just standardize the publishers name. So go ahead and change the publisher's name. I've already addressed this issue in one form above in a discussion about Leisure Books, which also published bootleg editions of their own books under the B. M. I. and Banner of Truth imprints, the names of which were stolen from more legit book companies. So standardize away. MLB 02:49, 1 January 2019 (EST)

In case you're curious, a discussion on Aerie came up before. Go here to see what happened when I first entered this book on this site. MLB 03:08, 1 January 2019 (EST)

Leaving aside the unimportant matter of what the publisher's standardized name should be, I'm trying to figure out the history of James Gunn's introductory material. A 1988 Tor edition says that the bio and intro are "Copyright 1986, 1987 by Aerie Books Ltd." so, somewhat to my surprise, Tor acquired them from Aerie rather than the other way around. Maybe Aerie only started doing questionable shenanigans later, what with their multiple ISBNs and bargain-bin editions and editions with no copyright info.

According to Worldcat, Aerie's first printing of The War of the Worlds was 1987 but they had The Time Machine in 1986, so a date of 1986 for the bio and 1987 for the intro seems like a safe bet. I still am not sure that Gunn is the author of the bio, though. --Vasha (cazadora de tildes) 03:14, 1 January 2019 (EST)

Well, if I remember correctly, the essay in my edition wasn't signed either. I just used the information already on this site, in fact, this page had already existed, I just added to it. In fact, I think that I got my information from here from editor Dragoondelight who quit in a huff before I joined. MLB 03:36, 1 January 2019 (EST)

I've created a record for the uncredited bio, it's this, in case you want to swap it into your publications in place of the record attributed to Gunn. --Vasha (cazadora de tildes) 23:15, 2 January 2019 (EST)