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For {{T|2746792|Tobias Buckell: Many Hands Lift}}, can you please confirm the author interviewed himself? While quite possible, it is unusual so want to make sure it's not a database error. Thanks. -- [[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:51, 20 July 2020 (EDT)
For {{T|2746792|Tobias Buckell: Many Hands Lift}}, can you please confirm the author interviewed himself? While quite possible, it is unusual so want to make sure it's not a database error. Thanks. -- [[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:51, 20 July 2020 (EDT)
:It's listed as an interview in the TOC but Buckell is the only person listed. The "interview" ends on page 65 as is by-lined as by Tobias S. Buckell. If you look at some of the earlier Locus listings you'll see that this is not uncommon, an author "interviewing" themselves. Myself, I would list it as an article but Locus lists them as "interviews".[[User:SFJuggler|Jim]] 17:31, 1 August 2020 (EDT)
:It's listed as an interview in the TOC but Buckell is the only person listed. The "interview" ends on page 65 and is by-lined as by Tobias S. Buckell. If you look at some of the earlier Locus listings you'll see that this is not uncommon, an author "interviewing" themselves. Myself, I would list it as an article but Locus lists them as "interviews".[[User:SFJuggler|Jim]] 17:31, 1 August 2020 (EDT)
== A George Turner essay/review ==
== A George Turner essay/review ==

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Near Side of the Moon (map)

I'm holding your edit to "Near Side of the Moon (map)". You moderator note is "Map is the exact one used in Luna: Wolf Moon and it is credited to Senior on the copyright page". Is it credited in Luna: New Moon or Luna: Wolf Moon? If Luna: Wolf Moon, then it should remain uncredited for Luna: New Moon and be varianted to Luna: Wolf Moon version. -- JLaTondre (talk) 22:36, 21 July 2019 (EDT)

It's credited in "Luna: Wolf moon" so I guess variant it. There's also this link: 23:59, 21 July 2019 (EDT)
Edit rejected and varianted instead. For internal art, it should be entered as uncredited if not credited in the pub. Only cover art is credited within the pub via secondary sources. This is because we don't allow uncredited cover art titles. Another of the ISFDB oddities. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 20:22, 22 July 2019 (EDT)
I can live with quirks.Jim 22:35, 22 July 2019 (EDT)

The Magazine of Fantasy & Science Fiction, May/June 2019

Is the review for "Seven Doors in an Unyielding Stone" in your verified about the complete series or for each book individually? Or just for one book? If it is for the series, it will need to become an essay. If it is for the books individually or for one of them, we need to swap the name and/or just connect to the correct book. Thanks! Annie 15:41, 8 August 2019 (EDT)

It's a small review about the entire set followed by a review of each individual book. Let me know how you want to handle that.Jim 11:02, 10 August 2019 (EDT)
Well, we cannot have a review of a series in the form of a REVIEW (unless you find it in a single title anyway). So we have two choices:
  • Make it an essay.
  • Add all of the books one by one (or the ones that are eligible if not all of them are) and then split this review and create a review for each plus an essay for the complete series.
Up to you - your verification, your choice. :) If someone disagrees, they can change it later. Keep in mind that as these are going to be chapbooks, the reviews will need to be attached to the stories, not to the chapbooks title entries. :) Annie 16:02, 12 August 2019 (EDT)
I'll look at the review and see if it covers all the stories and if it can be split cleanly. If so, I'll do one review for each. Probably won't happen until this weekend.Jim 22:20, 12 August 2019 (EDT)
Okay, I think I'm going to go with splitting it into reviews on each book and an essay on the set as a whole. de Lint goes on for quite some time on the set as a whole. Enough so that it warrants essay status. I'll submit the changes shortly.Jim 10:21, 24 August 2019 (EDT)
Any plans to add the books so we can link them? :) In the meantime, can you check the spelling of the name of the author of Black Hat - the publisher shows it differently. We will need to fix it on the review but a note may be in order in case the spelling is like that in the magazine. Thanks! Annie 12:30, 29 August 2019 (EDT)
Fixed the spelling of Hirons. Hadn't planned to add the books but I can go the website and get the information. Will try to do it over the weekend.Jim 12:36, 31 August 2019 (EDT)
When a review is not connected, it pop ups on one of the reports :) So someone needs to add the books sooner or later. Thanks for doing it here - and sorry for the delay - was mostly off for a few days. :) Annie 14:01, 4 September 2019 (EDT)
I removed the essay as per your other note so all is good now. You may want to use the | format for page numbers to order the reviews on page 58 :) Annie 14:03, 4 September 2019 (EDT)
And in the July/August, can you check if this is really about Susan and not Sarah instead? Thanks! Annie 15:44, 8 August 2019 (EDT)
Correction submitted (as well as a page number error I caught going through it). Thanks.Jim 11:02, 10 August 2019 (EDT)
Thanks! I connected the review (when the connection does not happen on the initial creation (due to a typo or a missing title for example), it needs to be done manually) Annie 16:02, 12 August 2019 (EDT)
Thanks! Glad that's over! 01:00, 14 September 2019 (EDT)

The Fire Chronicle

For this book you added two covers with two different authors: Can you please specify in the pub notes why? I assume one is the inner one and one the red outer one. Correct? --Stoecker 05:18, 18 August 2019 (EDT)

Correct. The system wouldn't let me add an additional artist. Note update submitted.Jim 13:36, 18 August 2019 (EDT)

Seven Doors in an Unyielding Stone by Tom Hirons

I found in Your PV The Magazine of Fantasy & Science Fiction, May/June 2019 a review on page 57 "Seven Doors in an Unyielding Stone" by Tim Hirons. I tried to find that publication, but couldn't. Instead I found a series of seven books with this title here edited by Tom Hirons. So can You please check the review in Your magazine what it says? --Zapp 04:58, 19 August 2019 (EDT)

Zapp, see 2 messages above - he is already checking on that one and figuring out how to record what we have in the magazine. Annie 05:18, 19 August 2019 (EDT)
^^Discussion on this will be above. Thanks.^^Jim 10:17, 24 August 2019 (EDT)

Locus1 verifications

Hello Jim,

You secondary verified a 2017 edition of Quillifer against Locus1. However, this specific verification is for verifications in this index and it stopped being updated in 2007. What exactly did you verify about this book and where when you marked it as verified in Locus1? Thanks!

I'll stop marking them verified in Locus1. I was marking them when they were listed in the magazine. My mistake.Jim 16:42, 21 September 2019 (EDT)
Ah, I see. Easy to mix these up. Thanks for the understanding. The stats page shows 113 Locus1 verifications to your name. If I get a list, I will post it back here - the verifications is one thing that cannot be changed from the moderators. Not urgent but one of those days we need to clean those. :) Annie 16:52, 21 September 2019 (EDT)
I'll update them if you post it. I want things to be accurate.Jim 17:06, 21 September 2019 (EDT)

PS: On a separate topic: the policy is to archive the messages on one's Talk page, not to delete them altogether. I will fish out the ones you deleted awhile back and set an archive page for you later today. :) Annie 12:38, 21 September 2019 (EDT)

My old talk pages were archived and I don't remember deleting them. I sort of wondered where they went. ;)Jim 16:42, 21 September 2019 (EDT)
So there may be a copy somewhere - let me see if I can find it before copying back from history and making a new archive :) PS: this is the update that deleted them. Annie 16:52, 21 September 2019 (EDT)
Found them and found your older archives as well - added the latest to the list and added a link to the list of them on top of the current discussion page - you may want to leave that conversation always on top. Feel free to reorganize if you prefer a different organization. Annie 17:00, 21 September 2019 (EDT)
Thanks. That works for me.Jim 17:06, 21 September 2019 (EDT)

The self-interview thing

A lot of those essays are essentially interviews with questions and answers - thus the self-interview thing :) If another PV decides they want it differently, they can discuss with you. I need to dig my own copies and add the ones we are missing... Annie 21:10, 7 October 2019 (EDT)

PS: Added the series to the editor, added the disambiguation and the series to the last essay and fixed one capitalized "With" in Moreno-Garcia's essay. Will leave you to finalize the rest. Let me know if you need assistance! Annie 21:13, 7 October 2019 (EDT)
Thanks for the info on the self-interviews. Looking over these neither one is a question/answer thing so I'm going to leave them as essays. If someone wants to change them later for consistency's sake I'm not going to quibble.Jim 22:31, 7 October 2019 (EDT)
There is some work to be done on both magazines (reviews to be connected, some column series and so on). Let me know if you need some help with those :) Annie
Yep, just been out and about all day. Just got home and haven't had a chance, yet. ;)Jim 22:47, 7 October 2019 (EDT)
No worries. I had been on planes and airports most of the day so just catching up as well. I will leave you to it :) Annie 22:50, 7 October 2019 (EDT)
Unfortunately editing the title once the review record is created will not link them. You need to manually link - go to the review page and look in the left menu. There is a "Link Review to Title" link. Click on it and link them this way. Annie 23:50, 7 October 2019 (EDT)
Thanks. Didn't know that (it would have saved some time earlier this year). I was more concerned about getting the issue of F&SF into C.C. Finlay's list. The initial entry flashed an error message and said that it would be done automatically.Jim 00:02, 8 October 2019 (EDT)
If you get it right the first time and there is an exact match and only one (if an author has a story and a novel by the same name the software won't know which one to pick), it gets connected. Once the record is created, it needs to be done manually - and if the "subtitle" in the magazine is different from the one on the book, it won't matter really (although a discrepancy should be checked) :) One of those oddities of the DB. If you see the same message, can you copy the exact wording? Annie 00:11, 8 October 2019 (EDT)

(unindent) One more thing: The review goes to the story record, not the chapbook record. Think of the chapbook just as a special container we use here to record single stories - it cannot be in series, it cannot be reviewed... :) Annie 00:16, 8 October 2019 (EDT)

Noted.Jim 00:20, 8 October 2019 (EDT)
And one more - columns need disambiguation - either by a title (if there is one) or by adding the issue name. Otherwise this series and this series will look absolutely useless. And I will fix the few in the latter that are not disambiguated. Annie 00:19, 8 October 2019 (EDT)
Noted.Jim 00:20, 8 October 2019 (EDT)
Magazines can be... fun. Especially our long standing ones with long series... :) Thanks for adding those by the way - we are way behind on magazines this year :( Annie 00:23, 8 October 2019 (EDT)

Starmont Reader's Guides

I'm trying to find out how the cover illustrations were credited in the early Starmont reader's guides. You verified Fritz Leiber and Hal Clement. The credit as we have it now is to 'Stephen Fabian' (Leiber) or 'Stephen E. Fabian, Sr. and Stephen Fabian' (Clement). In my copy copy of the Leiber it's 'Stephen E. Fabian, Sr. and Stephen Fabian, Jr.' and I have a strong suspicion the Clement is credited that way too. Could you check these for me? Thanks, --Willem 15:30, 11 October 2019 (EDT)

Your suspicions serve you well. It is credited to both on the Clement.Jim 01:59, 13 October 2019 (EDT)
Thanks! One more confirmation and I'll start correcting the credits. --Willem 14:02, 13 October 2019 (EDT)
Not sure why I didn't catch that since I entered both in my own catalog.Jim 00:25, 14 October 2019 (EDT)
Thanks for checking. I credited Leiber and Clement to both Fabians, and added a note to the pub series. --Willem 14:37, 19 October 2019 (EDT)
Glad it's fixed.Jim 00:26, 21 October 2019 (EDT)

The Magazine of Fantasy & Science Fiction, January/February 2019


There are still two unlinked reviews in your verified. I was planning to link them but the works they review are not eligible for inclusion in the DB. Do you mind if I convert these two to essays? Annie 04:27, 15 October 2019 (EDT)

Be my guest.Jim 01:20, 18 October 2019 (EDT)
Done. Annie 01:59, 18 October 2019 (EDT)
Thanks!Jim 02:00, 18 October 2019 (EDT)

A Betrayal in Blood

This novel should probably be added somewhere under this series :) Annie 22:31, 21 October 2019 (EDT)

And it was - I moved it though the main series is only for the originals). Annie 22:34, 21 October 2019 (EDT)
Thanks. I'll remember that for any future entries.Jim 22:38, 21 October 2019 (EDT)
No worries, someone will move it if it is not where it belongs. As a rule, when we have new authors into an established 1-author universe (which is not a continuation like Sanderson and the Wheel of Time), we spin them into their own series - either with a parent on top or with the main series as a parent. Keeps things... cleaner. We are not always consistent but still... :) Annie 22:41, 21 October 2019 (EDT)
It works.22:43, 21 October 2019 (EDT)

The Mammoth Book of Steampunk

In comparing our record for The Mammoth Book of Steampunk against an Internet Archive scan, I found a few things that I hope you can double check for me:

  • p31, ISFDB credit is by Elise Tobler, but the scan shows E. Catherine Tobler on the title page.
  • p84, ISFDB has "Muhammed" (e) in the title, but the scan shows "Muhammad" (a) on the title page.
  • p306, ISFDB has "Dr." (period) in the title, but the scan shows "Dr" (no period) on the title page.

Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 18:11, 22 October 2019 (EDT)

Will try to check this when I can. I'm leaving for a trip and won't be back until after the first of November.Jim 23:53, 26 October 2019 (EDT)
Did you ever have a chance to check this? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 13:44, 24 November 2019 (EST)
Have not. Trying to find it. It went back into storage and I haven't found which box it went into yet. I'm still looking.Jim 19:13, 24 November 2019 (EST)
Since you haven't found it and the scan matches that publication record (US first printing), I went ahead and made the changes to match the scan since they are likely database typos. If you find the book and determine the scan differs, ping me and I will restore the prior version and then clone a new record for the scanned version. Thanks for looking. -- JLaTondre (talk) 19:21, 3 December 2019 (EST)

The Da Vinci Cod and Other Illustrations for Unwritten Books

Collections and anthologies require fiction content; artbooks and books of essays are recorded as non-fiction. I changed the type here. Thanks! Annie 22:38, 9 November 2019 (EST)

Thanks.Jim 23:19, 9 November 2019 (EST)

The Great Snape Debate

Hi, I have corrected the author to 'uncredited', as we credit per what is stated on the title page (and then variant, if the real author / editor is known), and the date, since Amazon really uses the first day of a month if they dont have the exact day of publication. Thanks for that one, anyway. Christian Stonecreek 04:17, 12 November 2019 (EST)

Thanks for the corrections. I'll send the cover.Jim 00:08, 13 November 2019 (EST)

Egg & Spoon

I accepted you edits to Egg & Spoon. Based on your moderator & publication notes, shouldn't the cover art credit be changed? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 13:27, 24 November 2019 (EST)

Yes, it should but it's grayed out in this one. Will have to be changed in another entry. I'm not sure where the Doug Smith attribution comes from unless they're just copying from Maguire's other books.Jim 13:30, 24 November 2019 (EST)
Yup, I changed it. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 13:34, 24 November 2019 (EST)
Okay. I'll kill the change I submitted, then. Thanks.Jim 13:36, 24 November 2019 (EST)

ESB Professional

Are you sure that we want to record this one this way? We credit the artists, this looks like a design/photo arrangements? Annie 00:59, 26 November 2019 (EST)

Ps: That cover had a variant under the wrong name so I fixed that as well. Annie 01:01, 26 November 2019 (EST)
The cover credits the man on the cover to Knowles and the DNA strands to ESB Professional. I'll go with whatever you decide but they distinctly credit 2 different "artists".Jim 01:07, 26 November 2019 (EST)
Let's leave it like that for now - if someone disagrees, we can correct. If I were adding it, I would credit the artist and note the DNA strands in the notes only. But either way works. Thanks for correcting this one! :) Annie 01:15, 26 November 2019 (EST)
No problem. If it bugs someone, I'm okay with a change.Jim 12:12, 28 November 2019 (EST)

Nice for What

Can you check this story and its author name. Is it by any chance "Dominica Phetteplace" instead of "Dominca Phettaplace" on the title page of the story. Thanks! Annie 21:41, 30 November 2019 (EST)

Yes. Correction submitted.Jim 00:30, 3 December 2019 (EST)
So is it "Dominca Phetteaplace" (as submitted by you just now) or Dominica Phetteplace (I have a hold on an edit that changes it do that)?
No. "Dominca Phetteplace". The "a" was supposed to be backspaced out but it apparently didn't take. Thanks for the catch.Jim 00:35, 3 December 2019 (EST)
So Dominca and not Dominica? (sorry - just making sure so we do not need to keep fixing it :). And this is from the title page, correct? Can you check if the contents has the same spelling (if not, I will be happy to write the note for the situation). Annie 00:41, 3 December 2019 (EST)
"Dominica Phetteplace" on both TOC and title page of story. I should have double-checked typing. This will be the last. I promise. ;)Jim 00:44, 3 December 2019 (EST)
I will then approve the one I have on hold that sent me here asking you to check -- and thanks for checking again! Annie 00:45, 3 December 2019 (EST)
You're welcome. Again, thanks for the catch.Jim 00:52, 3 December 2019 (EST)

Foundation and Earth - Asimov

Hi Jim, your Limited Edition here is in discussion at Biomassbob's page here [1]. Perhaps you could take a look? Thanks, Kev. BanjoKev 20:55, 6 December 2019 (EST)

Larry Richards

Thanks for adding the details for this author but I had to massage the data a bit - the format for the legal name is always "Last, First Middles" and as we are an international DB, the birthplace should always contain the country :) Annie 00:50, 8 December 2019 (EST)

Thanks!Jim 00:57, 8 December 2019 (EST)


All EDITOR records need to have a series which will create the grid for them. Now... it may not be worth creating the yearly record when there is only one issue but we do need a series :) Annie 02:05, 15 December 2019 (EST)

I guess it's a must, then. ;)Jim 02:13, 15 December 2019 (EST)

The indexed pieces by Charles Kurts

Hi, it would seem that these works should belong somewhere in the 'Star Trek' universe. Is that so, and could you add the respective series? Christian Stonecreek 10:09, 17 December 2019 (EST)

I've submitted a couple of them. I'll have to dig out the book to get the rest in the proper place.Jim 13:39, 21 December 2019 (EST)
Thanks! Christian Stonecreek 14:05, 21 December 2019 (EST)
No problem! It may take a bit on the rest.Jim 14:07, 21 December 2019 (EST)

World Tales

I approved this by mistake - planned to hold so I can come ask if it is the same as this. If so, would you mind moving your PV and any notes you want and I will delete the new one. If it is different, can we add a line or two on how it is different. Thanks and sorry for the mistake. Annie 18:02, 21 December 2019 (EST)

Yes, they are the same as near as I can tell. Here's a proposal: I'll move my notes over and combine them with the existing ones. I'll leave the contents alone. The cover I was going to upload has the included prints next to it so it's more complete than the current one so I'll upload that and we'll call it good. Let me know if this is acceptable and I'll do it.Jim 19:14, 21 December 2019 (EST)
Check with the other PV about the cover maybe - just in case there are two covers actually - which may mean two different editions? Doubt it but... who knows. Annie 20:03, 21 December 2019 (EST)
His cover is identical to mine. It would just be the addition of the 2 inclusions to the right.Jim 21:30, 21 December 2019 (EST)
Ah, okey then. The plan sounds good then. Annie 21:46, 21 December 2019 (EST)
I'll do the changes and submit them.Jim 00:53, 22 December 2019 (EST)
I would have preferred that as a primary verifier, we had discussed these changes before they had been made. I do see some changes that I disagree with. First the change of the title type from NONFICTION to ANTHOLOGY. Under the definition of NONFICTION on this help page states " A publication that contains both non-fiction and fiction should be typed by that which is predominant.". I would argue that this publication is primarily appreciations of the guests of the convention and other essays and thus predominantly non-fiction. My other concern is with the prints that were included with the publication. These are essentially interior artwork (by our definition) and I feel strongly that they should not be included in the cover scan. I'm not a lawyer, but my understanding of the fair use that we assert by providing cover scans (as noted in the template) would not cover the inclusion of additional artwork from the publication which is under copyright. I'll also note that the scan is larger that our standards allow, which should be no larger than 600 pixels in their largest dimension (See here.) I believe that we should revert the image of the cover alone which is also of the proper size. I will also note that I acquired my copy of this book from the secondary market and the prints were not included. I think they probably should be listed as INTERIORART content items with the titles given. We could either leave the page number blank of enter it as "laid in" as appropriate. Please let me know if you agree. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 10:25, 22 December 2019 (EST)
Ron, If you want to change the scan back, I'm good with that. I just included them for the sake of showing the complete publication. As for the change from non-fiction to anthology...I have no idea where that change came from since I never touched it. The only thing I did was copy notes in and upload the new cover. I DID create a new entry for this publication as I did not know that yours existed until anniemod pointed it out but I have put it in for deletion and it's gone.Jim 11:27, 22 December 2019 (EST)
Thanks Jim. I've made the changes as discussed. Annie had changed it to an anthology and I assumed that was in preparation for your changes since her edit was shortly before yours. In any case, please take a look and let me know if it looks good to you. Thanks again. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 07:10, 23 December 2019 (EST)
Yep - the anthology change was me - based on the faulty approval (Jim has it as an anthology as well) and the fact that it had stories. I still would call that an anthology but I am fine with it staying a non-fiction - it did not cross my mind that it is not just as simple typo. Sorry about that. :) Sounds like we are back to normal here? Annie 11:00, 23 December 2019 (EST)
Works for me.Jim 23:38, 23 December 2019 (EST)

Demon Dentist

Hi, why do you want to change the publication date for Deamon Dentist? I have the page here, with March 1, 2016. Take care with the 'Look Inside' view, it often shows another edition.--Dirk P Broer 04:04, 23 December 2019 (EST)

Fatigue. I was looking at the trade paper version.Jim 23:41, 23 December 2019 (EST)

The Psychology of Time Travel

Hello. We tend to record glossaries as ESSAY, not SHORT FICTION. Could you check your PV'd The Psychology of Time Travel and if indeed it's not a short story, adjust accordingly (or conversely, add a note that notwithstanding what its title suggests, that it -is- really a short story)? Thanks! MagicUnk 06:16, 2 January 2020 (EST)

I entered them as short stories because they were "in-universe" as noted in the notes. They were not essays explaining things in the novel from the author's point of view. If they need to be changed to essays then I will go ahead and do that. I'm not exactly sure what the standard is on this. Let me know. Thanks.Jim 23:30, 2 January 2020 (EST)
Hi Jim, see also here for a similar discussion. I agree it's a thin line sometimes, but I record a glossary an ESSAY if it lists & briefly explains/clarifies terminology and (character) names. Conversely, if it does not - for example because the glossary contains extensive 'in-story' description of items, then it can be considered SHORTFICTION. MagicUnk 06:46, 3 January 2020 (EST)
I think I'm going to go with that and remove the shortstory length as it is fiction rather than the author speaking directly to the reader outside the scope of the novel. Correction submitted.Jim 23:02, 3 January 2020 (EST)
Thanks! MagicUnk 16:26, 4 January 2020 (EST)
Glad that's settled.Jim 18:57, 4 January 2020 (EST)

Dickson's The Dragon at War

Added the Canadian cover price to our verified hc. Thanks. PeteYoung 01:03, 14 January 2020 (EST)

Thanks!Jim 14:01, 19 January 2020 (EST)

Clarke County, Space - Allen Steele

Hello Jim, you are PV for this pub. I see that the cover art is credited to Hardy on the dust jacket. I have the Legend 1991 1st pb printing of this and so, whilst trying to sort out the art credit, I found this page showing the art credited to Julian Baum / Science Photo Library. Meanwhile, I've asked Biomassbob if he would have a look in his copy of "Hardyware: The Art of David A. Hardy" to see if there's any reference to this work in there. I've checked Hardy's website links but this art's not there. What do you make of it all?

When I do my 1991 pb edit, I will be crediting the cover art to Baum. Thanks, Kev. BanjoKev 12:00, 2 February 2020 (EST)

I don't see this image in any of the Hardy collections I can find on-line and it does NOT have his signature in the usual place (although it could have been cropped on the cover). I'm inclined to go with Baum on this. Since you discovered it go ahead and make the change on the original. I'm good with it.Jim 12:19, 2 February 2020 (EST)
Thanks Jim. I'll just wait to see if Bob finds anything before I make the change. I'll add explanation into your pub.notes too. Kev. BanjoKev 13:10, 2 February 2020 (EST)
Thanks for the catch.14:43, 2 February 2020 (EST)

As She Climbed Across the Table

Hi. It would be good if you made yourself a primary verifier on As She Climbed Across the Table. --MartyD 07:42, 17 February 2020 (EST)

Just hadn't gotten around to it after it was approved and before I had to get to work. I'm on it!Jim 23:17, 17 February 2020 (EST)

The Writer's Complete Fantasy Reference: An Indispensable Compendium of Myth and Magic

You were the last one to edit this pub so hoping you might be able to help me. The title transliteration field has David H. Borcherding which is obviously not a transliteration. Do you know what was intended there? Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 12:02, 23 February 2020 (EST)

Yes, that's called entering the information into the wrong field. I meant to put it into the Author1 field since Borcherding is explicitly credited as the editor on the copyright page. I can submit a correction if you want or you can just fix it. Let me know.Jim 18:36, 23 February 2020 (EST)
I've submitted a correction and it has been accepted.Jim 23:35, 23 February 2020 (EST)
Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 17:02, 25 February 2020 (EST)

Jurassic World: Special Edition Junior Novelization

Hi, with this page count and the core of juvenile readers, I do suspect that the text is only of SHORTFICTION length, thus making its publication a CHAPBOOK. Do you have any word count at hand (estimates are also welcome)? Christian Stonecreek 03:21, 25 February 2020 (EST)

I Did a quick rough count and it clocks in at around 30,000 words tops. CHAPBOOK.Jim 09:50, 25 February 2020 (EST)
Thanks for looking this up! Christian Stonecreek 12:53, 25 February 2020 (EST)
No problem.00:34, 27 February 2020 (EST)

Cover art for The Other Sister

Hi! We wouldn't credit a cover designer, and in this case it even would be a cover art for a nongenre publication (which we also don't index and don't upload). I have removed the cover art title and added an amazon image. Thanks, Stonecreek 00:03, 20 April 2020 (EDT)

Okay. The cover designer IS the cover artist in this case but whatever the rules say.Jim 00:06, 20 April 2020 (EDT)

Changing dates


When changing dates on books such as this one, please make sure you change the dates of all internal titles as well. If you are just adding new titles, they will get their dates from the publication date. But if the titles already exist, they will not get changed when a pub date is changed. I fixed all the titles here (pubEdit for the ones that were only published here; one by one for the rest) but just heads up for the future. Annie 16:55, 20 April 2020 (EDT)

Thanks. And noted.Jim 21:58, 20 April 2020 (EDT)

The Hugo Winners: Volume 4

Hello. A new editor wishes to update the starting page number of the first story, Home Is the Hangman by Zelazny, of the anthology that you have PV'd, from 1. to 5. - see this submission. Can you confirm this is actually correct? Thanks! MagicUnk 16:59, 28 April 2020 (EDT)

Hello, new editor here. I apologize for overlooking any steps I should have taken. In my first edition copy, the first story appears to start on page 5. While there is no page number on this particular page, the preceding two pages (containing the 2-page introduction by Asimov) are consecutively numbered as 3 and 4. Similarly, the pages following the title page of Home Is the Hangman are consecutively numbered as 6, 7, 8,... Does this match your copy? Thanks! Riselka 11:39, 30 April 2020 (EDT)
In the meantime, I went ahead and accepted Riselka's edit. Nevertheless, do let us know if there should be an issue regardless. Regards, MagicUnk 13:11, 30 April 2020 (EDT)

War of the Worlds: The Resurrection • novelization

posted to Don Erikson; Nihonjoe; SFJuggler

Hi, You are one verifier of our only publication P53757. I submitted re-classification from series The War of the Worlds to series War of the Worlds Sequels, based on the title note "A continuation of Wells' series, based on the TV series from the 1980s or 1990s."

On second thought I notify the active verifiers (3). If it is not a sequel, then I suggest the note needs amendment and H. G. Wells should be booked as a co-author. --Pwendt|talk 23:21, 29 April 2020 (EDT)

Already changed so no input needed.Jim 13:01, 2 May 2020 (EDT)

Science Fiction from China

Hello. As one of the primary verifiers of 29108, I wanted to check-in with you about a missing short story, "Death Ray on a Coral Island" by Tong Enzheng (English translation of 2394091), that should begin on page 97. Does this match your copy? Thanks! Riselka 14:19, 2 May 2020 (EDT)

Unfortunately, this book has gone back into storage so I am unable to get to it at the moment to check. I'll put it on the "to do" list.Jim 15:46, 2 May 2020 (EDT)

Jules Verne translations

I have been documenting the various translations of Jules Verne's works and trying to identify a piece of text from each translation so editors can position their publications under the correct title record. You are on record as a primary verifier for one or more publications for which I am looking for text or which are placed under a generic translation title. I would be grateful if you could assist in this by checking your copies, as listed below, and providing the initial text for missing translations or an indication of the translation for those unspecified. These are listed on the Jules Verne Translations wiki. Thank you. ../Doug H 15:08, 14 May 2020 (EDT)

This book has gone back into storage and is not available for quick retrieval at the moment. I will put it on the "to do" list.Jim 15:49, 17 May 2020 (EDT)
I've been at this for 2 years and am at the stage of ticking boxes to cover off what I can. If it takes more than a month or two, please try to ping my Talk page as a reminder. Thanks. ../Doug H 17:10, 17 May 2020 (EDT)
Will do. I admire your persistence.Jim 18:07, 17 May 2020 (EDT)

The Croquet Player

Hi, You verified our record of a February 1937 US edition P417007. Is that date stated in the book?
Is yours a dustjacket image?

You don't say whether the front illustration is clearly by an artist different from the credited interior illustrator Clifford Lines. What do you think of that, and also the other cover illustrations we show: P304122, P486889. (We don't report from usual sources whether the former UK edition is illustrated inside. I will check newspaper coverage.) --Pwendt|talk 14:25, 21 May 2020 (EDT)

I'm thinking it's a different person. The signature on the front could be "stubbs" or "suggs" or something like that but I've never been able to pin it down.Jim 16:32, 23 May 2020 (EDT)

Legal Name format reminder

Just a friendly reminder that Legal Names should always be in "Last, First Middle(s)" format. I fixed it here after your update :) Annie 22:47, 24 May 2020 (EDT)

D'oh! Thanks.Jim 23:33, 24 May 2020 (EDT)


Hello. As you've PV'd this pub, I wanted to ask you if you would mind I changed the page numbering for the map from bp to [1], and correspondingly changed the pagination to [2]+391 (as that is the more common approach, and signifies the map then appear on the first page of the two unnumbered pages preceding page 1). And I wanted to add following to the notes: 'Novel ends on p.388. Acknowlegments on pp.[389] through 391, signed --Suzanne [over] NOVEMBER, 2018'? Thanks! MagicUnk 16:38, 26 May 2020 (EDT)

Go for it. While you're in there could you change " puts the publication date at 2019-04-02." to "Catalog of Copyright Number TX0008767429 puts the publication date at 2019-04-02."? The Copyright office has finally registered the copyright on this.Jim 19:21, 30 May 2020 (EDT)
Done! MagicUnk 09:28, 31 May 2020 (EDT)
Thank you!Jim 13:04, 31 May 2020 (EDT)

The Hugo Movie Companion: A Behind the Scenes Look at How a Beloved Book Became a Major Motion Picture

Is this book only about the making of the movie? If so, I am not sure it falls under out Non-fiction eligibility (as clarified in the last few weeks):

  • Published non-fiction works about speculative fiction which can be plausibly linked to published (as defined above) speculative fiction. This rule allows the inclusion of secondary bibliographies, i.e. bibliographies of bibliographies, which are two steps removed from published speculative fiction. It also allows the inclusion of non-fiction works about shared cross-media universes like "Doctor Who" and "Star Wars", but only as long as there is a plausible connection to the universe's published component. Thus a book about "Star Trek physics" can be included (because it applies to all types of media including novels) while a book about Star Trek movie outtakes and bloopers should be excluded.

If I am reading correctly what the book is about, it will fall under the last category so ineligible. The second way to include it will be as a non-genre If Brian Selznick is considered above treshold - which will open the door for every book he ever did. What do you think? I will also seek other opinions but thought I start here. Annie 04:19, 6 June 2020 (EDT)

Probably falls into the second category even with the essays about automatons and Georges Méliès (A Trip to the Moon, etc.).Jim 14:19, 6 June 2020 (EDT)
Is there any discussion on the technology inside of the novel and so on? Or is it strictly a movie book? The last two notes does make it sound like it may have enough non movie stuff to be borderline enough to get it in. Annie 15:14, 6 June 2020 (EDT)
The essays about automatons and Georges Méliès still circle back to their connection with the film. I don't think it meets the threshold.Jim 16:44, 6 June 2020 (EDT)
I am trying to find a reason to let it in - as you did the work on adding it (I hate losing work done by editors) and it is from the author of the novel, it is enough in the grey area to be good to have if we can find that plausible connection (and document it so someone does not delete it next week for being non-genre) :) Even if it circles back to the film, if the novels' ideas and how they are getting implemented is covered, I will approve. As you are the only one that had seen the book, up to you. If it is indeed about the movie only, I will reject. You may also check this for some more thoughts. At this point I am inclined to reject based on what you are saying :( Annie 17:00, 6 June 2020 (EDT)
It IS by the author of the original work but other than that it's still gray area. I've had other entries reject and if it is rejected I'm okay with that. The work is not lost as I've also entered it into Open Library (OL24853605M).Jim 17:28, 6 June 2020 (EDT)
Based on what you said and based on what I can find, I am going to reject it as not "plausibly" connected. These days we have a "unreject" so the decision can be revised if further discussion proves that it is indeed needed in the DB. Sorry :( Annie 23:29, 9 June 2020 (EDT)
No worries.Jim 18:14, 20 June 2020 (EDT)

War in 2080

Added cover art credit for this from Book Club Associates edition. --Mavmaramis 06:45, 7 June 2020 (EDT)

Thanks. Since I noted in the notes that the cover art was credited I'm not sure why I didn't put it in the listing. Oversight, I guess.Jim 18:13, 20 June 2020 (EDT)

Added content ...

... to Machine Man. Christian Stonecreek 02:41, 9 June 2020 (EDT)

Cool.Jim 18:17, 20 June 2020 (EDT)


I changed a review in The Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fition, January-February 2020 that you verified from a review to an essay, since the pub is a comic book and the artist is rightly not in the data base. Bob 20:18, 16 June 2020 (EDT)

Noted.Jim 18:18, 20 June 2020 (EDT)

The Magazine of Fantasy & Science Fiction, January/February 2020

In Your verified magazine there is a Review of the comic book "Farmhand". But there are at least two volumes #1 and #2. What do You think is the one of the review? --Zapp 14:18, 18 June 2020 (EDT)

The review is a general overview of the Farmhand universe/storyline. He specifically mentions Volume 2 in the third paragraph as currently being out (including publisher and price details).Jim 18:23, 20 June 2020 (EDT)
JLaTondre rejected the submitted associated publication as an ineligible work (comic) and Biomassbob changed the review into an essay. --Zapp 08:07, 21 June 2020 (EDT)
Okay.Jim 14:28, 4 July 2020 (EDT)

Tobias Buckell: Many Hands Lift

For Tobias Buckell: Many Hands Lift, can you please confirm the author interviewed himself? While quite possible, it is unusual so want to make sure it's not a database error. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 19:51, 20 July 2020 (EDT)

It's listed as an interview in the TOC but Buckell is the only person listed. The "interview" ends on page 65 and is by-lined as by Tobias S. Buckell. If you look at some of the earlier Locus listings you'll see that this is not uncommon, an author "interviewing" themselves. Myself, I would list it as an article but Locus lists them as "interviews".Jim 17:31, 1 August 2020 (EDT)

A George Turner essay/review

May I draw your attention to this? Your verified pub Philip K. Dick: Electric Shepherd has an essay by Turner, Philip K. Dick by 1975: Flow My Tears, The Policeman Said, which has been varianted by someone as a review by Turner of the same book in SF Commentary #76. In my verified SFC76 it appears as a review (ie. "Reviewed: Flow My Tears, the Policeman Said by Philip K. Dick") and begins "One of the disadvantages of writing reviews...". Can you check if the essay in your pub is indeed the same, and if so would you prefer it listed as an essay or review? I'm fine either way. Cheers. PeteYoung 16:09, 22 July 2020 (EDT)

This one has gone into deep storage so it won't be easy to get it back right now. But since "Philip K. Dick: Electric Shepherd" is a "Best of..." collection and probably contains no new material I suspect that it just a direct reprint from Commentary #76 and is most likely a review.Jim 17:27, 1 August 2020 (EDT)
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