User talk:Jthorne

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The Worm Ouroboros

Hello, and welcome again! Thanks for your submission. I have put it on to hold, as we do need some more information: is there any information supplied on the edition? Also, the format 'Octavo' is somewhat curious as it is usually used only for magazines (maybe it is the "New and Cheaper Edition" by Jonathan Cape, that is mentioned at Wikipedia?). Please supply here some more details after taking a second look. Stonecreek 04:18, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

Thank you. I will try to clarify your questions. Firstly, I am the webmaster and co-writer of The Silver Stallion (jamesbranchcabell.org) and currently co-writing a new bibliography of Cabell's works. I have been reading and collecting Eddison's works for over thirty years.

I am surprised by your comment re 'octavo'. This is a specific technical term referring to book sizes. In my experience, it is not normally used in reference to magazines, although of course it could be. May I refer you to http://www.trussel.com/books/booksize.htm? See Table II, Scale of the American Library Association, for the modern usage of the term. It is the appropriate designation for this size book.

Yes, this is the "New and Cheaper Edition," Jonathan Cape, 1924, although the real situation is more complicated than that. I was able to enter some of the data for the edition, but I haven't yet figured out how to add information to what I've already written. My luddite tendencies showing, I suppose. I will correct the page as soon as I read enough of the instructions to figure out how to do so.

Well, ISFDB has some specialities, one of them being the format/binding, see this help section. For book sizes the most commonly used are 'hc - hardcover', 'tp - trade paperback' and 'pb - paperback', with dos, ph & digest being used for some special cases. It does seem that your copy of The Worm Ouroboros likely falls into either our hardcover or trade paperback category (?).
Also, please remember to sign your name for comments on our wiki talk pages using four tildes (Stonecreek 15:17, 20 June 2017 (UTC)). Thanks, Stonecreek 15:17, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
I finally approved your submission, but concluded from the wikipedia bit that it also has to be a hardcover edition. I also added the page count of the first edition and added a referring note. I hesitated to also add the cover artist of the first edition. Maybe you could help. Thanks, Stonecreek 13:38, 22 June 2017 (EDT)

Yes, the 1924 edition is hc. You are correct not to show Henderson as a cover artist - this edition has the same internal illustrations by him that were used in the 1st edition, but the dust jacket is not illustrated - text only. How do you verify an issue? I can't find it in the help files. Jthorne 20:38, 22 June 2017 (EDT)Jthorne

Well, for this publication you have clicked on the right spot upon submitting it. For other publications there's a link 'Verify This Pub' on the left tool bar. Stonecreek 02:13, 23 June 2017 (EDT)

Page numbers in The Worm Ouroboros

Hello,

I accepted your updates but wanted to verify that we are talking about the same numbers. ISFDB is counting only printed pages (see here for a complete explanation but the relevant part is "For books, the general rule is to use the last printed page number". So can you verify that when you counted 446 in the main book body, there is something printed on page 446 (page number, text, something else?)? Thanks and welcome to ISFDB :) Annie 18:49, 25 June 2017 (EDT)

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