User talk:Wollman
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Hello, Wollman, and welcome to the ISFDB Wiki! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:
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Note: Image uploading isn't entirely automated. You're uploading the files to the wiki which will then have to be linked to the database by editing the publication record.
Please be careful in editing publications that have been primary verified by other editors. See Help:How to verify data#Making changes to verified pubs. But if you have a copy of an unverified publication, verifying it can be quite helpful. See Help:How to verify data for detailed information.
I hope you enjoy editing here! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will insert your name and the date. If you need help, check out the community portal, or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome! Hauck 18:58, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
Love Beyond Body, Space, and Time
Hi, thanks for adding & verifying the paperback copy. I have two queries... Firstly, I've changed the date to 2016-09-15 according to information from the editor's website; is there anything in your copy indicating that that isn't correct? Secondly, the ebook edition has the title of Grace L. Dillon's essay as "Beyond the Grim Dust of What Was to a Radiant Possibility of What Could Be: Two-Spirit Survivance Stories" at the head of the essay, with the shorter title in the table of contents. Could you check your copy, and change the record to the longer title if it's there? Thanks --Vasha 03:37, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
The Abyss Surrounds Us
Hello, I've put your submission on hold. If you have a physical copy of the book, it would be better to Primary Verify it (meaning that you have access to the book), if not please give your sources. Thanks for contributing. Hauck 10:01, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
- I thought, perhaps erroneously, that I shouldn't "verify" a publication when the details shown in your database do not match the copy in my hands. If you have a different practice, please advise, as it's not at all obvious. Wollman 18:09, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
- In this case, you're right not to verify the publication. The question is now: "Where does your data come from?". You can't modify data (even unverified) without giving a justification.Hauck 18:29, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
- It comes from the copy of the book in my hands, as I said. Wollman 01:05, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
- OK, to summarize: 1) you've got a copy of the book and publication (globally) matches your book and there is no PV listed => the record is yours for the taking, you have to PV it (it will help moderators to review your submission), add or change data; 2) you've got a copy of the book and publication (globally) matches your book and there is one or more PV listed => the record is not "free" to modify, you can PV it, add data that is not present or eventually change data but this must be done in accordance with the other PVs (when changes are necessary, there is usually something fishy); 3) you've got a copy of the book and publication does not match your book (for such evident data as price or printing) => you've got a different publication, do not modify anything and instead create a new publication; 4) you haven't got a copy of the book (but work by comparison, e.g. for the cover artist, or by using a secondary source) and there is no PV listed => change the publication but list your sources in the notes; 5) you haven't got a copy of the book (but work by comparison, e.g. for the cover artist, or by using a secondary source) and there is one or more PV listed => contact the PVs BEFORE making changes, if not your submission will likely either put on hold or rejected. Hauck 08:12, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
- Maybe to add that for 1) & 4) if you try to add a different printing please nevertheless add a new pub. record as we try to capture them as well. Stonecreek 08:40, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
- OK, to summarize: 1) you've got a copy of the book and publication (globally) matches your book and there is no PV listed => the record is yours for the taking, you have to PV it (it will help moderators to review your submission), add or change data; 2) you've got a copy of the book and publication (globally) matches your book and there is one or more PV listed => the record is not "free" to modify, you can PV it, add data that is not present or eventually change data but this must be done in accordance with the other PVs (when changes are necessary, there is usually something fishy); 3) you've got a copy of the book and publication does not match your book (for such evident data as price or printing) => you've got a different publication, do not modify anything and instead create a new publication; 4) you haven't got a copy of the book (but work by comparison, e.g. for the cover artist, or by using a secondary source) and there is no PV listed => change the publication but list your sources in the notes; 5) you haven't got a copy of the book (but work by comparison, e.g. for the cover artist, or by using a secondary source) and there is one or more PV listed => contact the PVs BEFORE making changes, if not your submission will likely either put on hold or rejected. Hauck 08:12, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
- It comes from the copy of the book in my hands, as I said. Wollman 01:05, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
- In this case, you're right not to verify the publication. The question is now: "Where does your data come from?". You can't modify data (even unverified) without giving a justification.Hauck 18:29, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
Your recent submissions
Hello, I'm sorry but had to reject some of your submissions. You'll be able to access them and my reasons via the "My Rejected Edits " link. Mostly it concerns changes to publications that you don't seem to own without citing your sources (see above), addition of data pertaining to another printing (e.g. data about the second printing of Flight in Yiktor in the first printing's notes). As we have many idiosyncrasies, perhaps is it better for you to wait for the result of each submission (for the time being of course). Hauck 10:19, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
Additions to your verified "Miranda and Caliban"
Hi, I added Notes to your verified Miranda and Caliban. No serious changes -- I added more information about what's on copyright page, source of artist name, also the Canada price & LCCN. Cheers! BungalowBarbara 23:13, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
Love Beyond Body, Space, and Time: An Indigenous LGBT Sci-Fi Anthology
A quick note re: your verified Love Beyond Body, Space, and Time: An Indigenous LGBT Sci-Fi Anthology. The note field has been updated by User:Auric to say that "Canadian and US prices are the same". Hopefully it matches your data. Ahasuerus 15:01, 15 September 2018 (EDT)