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Blazer & Soulseer

Been adding a number of items and now have been going back to fill in the other versions (hc, audio etc). However I had two items Blazer (Records 3422931 & 1046102) & Soulseer (Records 3422929 & 1046101) where the publication date was not what I originally put in and I had to fix it. I don't want to continue with these two until they are updated. Figured out what happened, the autofill. It tried to get me on another one but I caught it in the act. aardvark7 (talk) 15:13, 1 March 2025 (EST)

Question of policy

I usually like to add the cover image to the database as outside links can be broken or changed. Many times the tp, hc and ebook all seem to have the same cover. If you try to add all, even with different titles, the Database comes back as says its already on file. I guess you could copy/paste the file link to all the entries but what is the proper policy/proceedure?? aardvark7 (talk) 15:20, 1 March 2025 (EST)

If they all have the same cover (make sure, as there can sometimes be subtle differences, especially with ebook covers), it's perfectly fine for them to all use the same cover image that's been uploaded to ISFDB. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 10:55, 3 March 2025 (EST)

Phishing Email

A caution, I received the following email titled: Fwd:Purchase summary on 03 March 2025 by Jeffery Juniper, addressed to the isfdb moderators group email.Rkihara (talk) 15:07, 3 March 2025 (EST)

There's a group email? ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 15:22, 3 March 2025 (EST)

There was a Gmail-based one a long time ago, but it has been inactive for the last 10+ years. Apparently someone is trying to abuse it. Ahasuerus (talk) 15:49, 3 March 2025 (EST)

Mick van Houten (Houton)... Error Somewhere?

I have recently made several edits relating to K. J. Parker's Colours in the Steel. The last of these edits has been approved so I was looking through all the related records to check everything looks ok... but it does not. I made this submission to make cover artist Mick van Houton an alternate name of Mick van Houten. I'm sure this looked ok after approval but now, Houton's record does not state "Used As Alternate Name By:" and Houten's record does not include Houton in the list of "Used These Alternate Names:". However, "Colours in the Steel (1998) [only as by Mick van Houton] " does appear in Houten's list of Cover Art.
The plot thickens because, looking at the Raw XML View of my make alternate name submission, Houton had record number 394693 but he now has record number 395554.
As there is no edit history for authors, my investigation has ground to a halt. Could a moderator please look into this and advise what has happened? Teallach (talk) 18:43, 3 March 2025 (EST)

Mick van Houton needed to be made and alternate name for Mick van Houten. I've taken care of it.

I see what happened now. Look at the Coverart record edit history for Colours in the Steel. Zapp decided your change was incorrect. He reverted the credit back to Mick van Houten. This effectively deleted author 394693. One minute later, he reversed his change. The software created a new Mick van Houton author record, number 395554. This new record had to be made an alternate, which I have now done. I assume, Zapp did not communicate with you as required. John Scifibones 19:15, 3 March 2025 (EST)

Your assumption is correct. Zapp did not communicate with me. I have issued another post on his talk page. Teallach (talk) 18:33, 4 March 2025 (EST)

R A Garnett

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?395865; Initials need a space between them so as to fit with other works by the artist and not lose bio info; I left PV a note about uploading a real cover (and adding the price). --Username (talk) 10:13, 4 March 2025 (EST)

Fixed here. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 14:18, 4 March 2025 (EST)

Authors with extraneous spaces in disambiguation date ranges

(Posting this to Moderator noticeboard, given that only mods can alter author names; will happily repost to Community Portal and/or Rules and Standards if this is considered non-trivial or needing wider discussion)

I noticed on the Authors Born On This Day section of the homepage that there's a record for "Gordon Cooper (1927 - 2004)". Help:How_to_separate_two_authors_with_the_same_name doesn't explicitly say how these disambiguation year ranges should be entered, but having spaces is (a) inconsistent with how they are formatted just to the right of the name on that section, (b) probably much less common than the spaceless-version and (c) debatably less aesthetically pleasing.

Here are links to all the author records that have these spaces in the author name field, if it's deemed preferable to remove them:

ErsatzCulture (talk) 14:13, 6 March 2025 (EST)

Checking the database, I see that we have 258 author records which use "(YYYY-YYYY)" to disambiguate author names. I agree that we should make the 11 "(YYYY - YYYY)" authors listed above use the "(YYYY-YYYY)" pattern. Ahasuerus (talk) 17:06, 6 March 2025 (EST)

All fixed. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 20:22, 6 March 2025 (EST)

Thanks! Ahasuerus (talk) 22:32, 6 March 2025 (EST)

Thanks both! ErsatzCulture (talk) 05:01, 7 March 2025 (EST)

LRR

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?66264; I've been adding archived links to some Third Alternative issues today and Simpson's story has an "&" in its title as does the TTA anthology cover while The Weird anthology titles it with an "and"; since the Silver Web issue was edited by a co-editor of The Weird I assume it has "and" there, too. So US is "and", UK is "&". Probably an unmerge and variant would be in order. --Username (talk) 19:21, 8 March 2025 (EST)

Frank Edwards

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?21323; Story author almost certainly not the same as the Edwards who wrote a bunch of "non-fiction" UFO books and other similar stuff. --Username (talk) 09:20, 10 March 2025 (EDT)

I submitted a differentiation (but you could have done it also, Username!). Christian Stonecreek (talk) 02:32, 12 March 2025 (EDT)

But then wouldn't author info have been lost, Stonecreek? Isn't that why mods need to change names, Stonecreek? I know you're not a mod anymore so maybe you should leave it to one of them, Stonecreek. --Username (talk) 07:42, 12 March 2025 (EDT)

If it's just splitting the works between two authors with the same name, so there are some works with each, then no author info would be lost. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 10:53, 12 March 2025 (EDT)

Robert Black

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?188821; While adding info for some of his books I stumbled on the fact that Death Angel is not by Holdstock; https://vaultofevil.proboards.com/thread/7211/robert-black-death-angel. The late Black needs a separate record. --Username (talk) 00:05, 12 March 2025 (EDT)

I agree. I've changed it to be by Robert Black (III) as I don't know if it's one of the three other existing Robert Blacks. I removed the variant title, too. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 14:34, 12 March 2025 (EDT)

High Hunt

Looking for something entirely different, I came across the 1986 cover of High Cross (Record # 17039). I also came across another cover that looks to have the same number (32887)but has a cover price of $4.95 also giving the cover artist of Cliff Miller (www.murrayewing.co.uk/mewsings/2025/03/01/high-hunt-by-david-eddings/_). Other than this also being a Ballantine book, I don't know when it came out. Should I add it?? aardvark7 (talk) 13:11, 12 March 2025 (EDT)

If it's not in the database, yes. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 14:37, 12 March 2025 (EDT)

Uploaded wrong image

Sorry uploaded wrong image for the above title. Can this be deleted/removed? Location: https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/File:THCMPLTCHD1998.jpg
ReadingMovies (talk) 14:04, 12 March 2025 (EDT)

Done. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 14:36, 12 March 2025 (EDT)

Mad Max 2 Translation Help

I have made my first attempt to add a translated work and followed the wiki advice page. Main source is this Internet Archive page which shows a 13 digit barcode for a 1983 book which I entered as is, but of course this has flagged up for being a pre 2005 work with wrong ISBN. Is this still ok or should I have used the shorter ISBN say from WorldCat (although this is not on the printed book)? Many thanks for your help. | ReadingMovies (talk) 19:10, 12 March 2025 (EDT)

Perhaps the number at the bottom of the barcode section is an "EAN", i.e. a European Article Number aka International Article Number. The linked Wikipedia article says that EANs began using the "978" prefix for books in the 1980s, but I don't know if they were already being used in France in 1983. Hopefully someone with more experience with French books will chime in and clarify. Ahasuerus (talk) 19:30, 12 March 2025 (EDT)

You are probably right regarding the EAN. I have checked other J'ai'Lu pubs and they all appear to have ISBNs starting with "22..." which this pub has under WorldCat. Should this edit gets approved I will change the ISBN to the shorter one on WorldCat. The main editor of the J'ai'Lu pubs appears to be one Linguist, so I will leave a message on their talk page for help. |ReadingMovies (talk) 19:56, 12 March 2025 (EDT)

159 pages; last page is unnumbered. --Username (talk) 19:43, 12 March 2025 (EDT)

Thanks. I have no access to all the pages. I will correct it in a further edit. |ReadingMovies (talk) 19:56, 12 March 2025 (EDT)

The submission has been approved. The following changes have been made as per the discussion above:

Changed the ISBN value to "2-277-21533-3"
Changed the page count to 159
Turned the translated title into a variant of the 1982 original.

Please feel free to tweak it further. Thanks! Ahasuerus (talk) 08:49, 13 March 2025 (EDT)

Thanks for finishing the edit. I was aiming to add the variant link in stage two - saved me the trouble. Discovered this edition when adding reviews for this edit. Will add review link when approved. I will leave the "tweaking" to a PV as I only know as much as the Internet Arch link. Many thanks! |ReadingMovies (talk) 08:58, 13 March 2025 (EDT)

Change to publication verified by absent member

I am changing the format of this publication of The Guns of Avalon by Roger Zelazny from PB to HC. Faber rarely did PB, they did the previous and following books of the series in HC and the image suggests HC. The sole verifier (Biomassbob) is deceased. ../Doug H (talk) 15:11, 13 March 2025 (EDT)

Graphic Novel Question

I'd like to ask for additional opinions of this submission which I've put on hold. Our policy page defines speculative fiction to exclude graphic novels. However, I am aware that many graphic novels have been allowed in the database (e.g. this series). Our policy does allow for non-speculative book length works published by author's above the threshold. I've looked at the Amazon preview of this graphic novel and Le Guin is the main author credit on the title page. Although, the title page also states "Adapted and illustrated by Fred Fordham". The copyright page bears Le Guin's 1968 copyright for the text. Since Fordham has an illustrator credit, I have to assume that he altered the text in some way. However, I checked the first few pages and they appear to be text directly from Le Guin's novel with significant excisions. Would others recommend approving this submission? I am aware of other problems with the submission, i.e. It's doubtful that it is novel length; the use of Roman numbers for unnumbered page count; the content on the unnumbered pages being listed only in notes and again with Roman numerals that aren't present; not marked non-genre (though if graphic format is not speculative by our policy, all graphic format works would be non-genre). What are other moderators thoughts on this? Thanks. --Ron ~ Rtrace^Talk 17:44, 17 March 2025 (EDT)

I do think it'd be includable: surely Le Guin is as important for us as Gaiman. But if it's only of shortfiction length and Le Guin is the one credited, I think it should be entered as a CHAPBOOK and then varianted to a parent including the artist as co-author. Christian Stonecreek (talk) 02:46, 18 March 2025 (EDT)

I think it is comparable to this Octavia Butler graphic novel. That means Fred Fordham should be co-author, no separate interior art title is needed and certainly no varianting to the original novel. The Amazon preview (titlepage) has the title as "A Wizard of Earthsea: A Graphic Novel". Perhaps our policy of the graphic format should be re-evaluated. --Willem (talk) 08:19, 18 March 2025 (EDT)

I would definitely include it. Did Fordham write any of the content, or only abridge it? If he only abridged it, I wouldn't list him as an author, but I would note that in the Title note and Publication note. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 19:28, 18 March 2025 (EDT)

uploaded wrong cover

https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/File:CRWFLLCDCV2021.jpg

Can a mod please delete this cover. cheers - Gaz Faustus (talk) 13:08, 19 March 2025 (EDT)

Deleted. FYI; the correct image can be uploaded without first deleting the wrong image. Simply use the "Upload a new version of this file" link. John Scifibones

cheers i've not got the cover for that book, the uploaded cover is for a different publication (2nd printing). Gaz Faustus (talk) 14:37, 19 March 2025 (EDT)

Mozart

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?100697; Should he be deleted? He has no contents. --Username (talk) 18:06, 20 March 2025 (EDT)

My guess is that there's a review somewhere that connects to it. Yes, it looks like it's this review. It would be awesome to have some sort of link or something on the profile that showed those. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 20:10, 20 March 2025 (EDT)

And here's the review (bottom of second column on p.99, continuing at top of p.100). It mentions Mozart, and makes some comments about the opera and its music, then discusses how much better the English translation of the lyrics by Auden and Kallman is compared to the original German lyrics. So, it's a bit of a review of both the music by Mozart and the translation by Auden and Kallman. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 20:21, 20 March 2025 (EDT)

Reviews of ineligible works are supposed to be entered as essays, not reviews. If this is just for the music, then it should be an essay. If the lyrics were published as a book, then the book would probably be eligible and should be entered. -- JLaTondre (talk) 11:28, 21 March 2025 (EDT)

It's a fantasy opera, so it's definitely eligible if it's published in some fashion. The question is whether the review is of the book or of the opera. Having read the review (link above), it appears to be a review of both the music by Mozart and the translated lyrics published as a book. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 13:36, 21 March 2025 (EDT)

Mark Joseph

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/se.cgi?arg=mark+jose&type=Name; First 2 guys are the same; archived link I added to Mexico 21 says his first novel was To Kill the Potemkin. He also has a Wikipedia page. --Username (talk) 19:50, 20 March 2025 (EDT)

Updated. They are all at this one now. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 20:06, 20 March 2025 (EDT)

eBooks

Are there different types of eBooks and do we care?? I am coming across eBooks (Barnes & Noble) that have an ISBN number but no ASIN, but the same title from Amazon (Kindle, has an ASIN but no ISBN. How should these be entered?? aardvark7 (talk) 16:21, 1 April 2025 (EDT)

Depends if they are really different. Barnes and Nobles book will never have an ASIN in their system because this is an Amazon only number. Kindle books often have both ASIN and ISBN (even if Amazon makes the ISBN almost impossible to find - it is often at the end of the book so even Look Inside does not help). In general, if they are the same book but just in different format (epub vs mobi and so on), we add just one book with the ISBN and ASIN and any other identifier added to it and add the sources we have in the notes. If they are materially different, we record both as separate entries. Most publishers use eISBN (which does not exist in theory but is very much used in practice) and use it across all their formats - showing it or not depending on what is needed... Annie (talk) 18:16, 1 April 2025 (EDT)

wrong cover

https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/File:LNGCLDNHLL1966.jpg

can a mod delete this cover please its the wrong one for this edition - Faustus (talk) 14:05, 6 April 2025 (EDT)

Done. -- JLaTondre (talk) 14:16, 6 April 2025 (EDT)

Variants

I need other eyes to look at the 2 next-to-last messages on Dirk's board, am I missing something, I'm trying to merge Can These Stones Speak with Can These Stones Speak? because a copy of Sweet Singers was uploaded and it has the question mark, too, also John R. Pierce is J. R. Pierce in the Hale Nova 1 just like the others, a lot of these false variant name/title things were added years ago, I've fixed a lot of them, these are acceptable and understandable, right? --Username (talk) 18:59, 10 April 2025 (EDT)

How so "false variant name/title things"? Just because you find another name or title in one of the editions, every name or title has to be changed in all editions to the one you have in hand?--Dirk P Broer (talk) 05:38, 11 April 2025 (EDT)

Can I have a list of these merges to check if the same mistakes have been made before?--Dirk P Broer (talk) 05:39, 11 April 2025 (EDT)

Username wants to merge variants with title records that have a variant title and/or author, and does not seem to be able to grasp the difference between a title and a publication.--Dirk P Broer (talk) 20:23, 10 April 2025 (EDT)

I'm still not getting it. Leaving aside the name merge for a moment, the title merge seems very obvious to me. The Sweet Singers has the title of the story with a question mark at the end so all titles should be, after my edit, in the same record with a 1953 date. It might help if someone would approve the Nova 1 and Sweet Singers edits I made and actually search inside the archived copies to see that the name is J. R. Pierce in Nova and the story in Sweet Singers has a question mark. I've done countless merges of this type of thing, some other editor(s) long ago adding many false variants because they were going off sites like philsp.com, I suppose, where they lump stories by an author under one name and/or have many title (and other) errors, which have been approved so I'm not sure what's wrong in these cases. I'm trying to get all instances of the story under J. R. Pierce and all instances of the Dickinson title in the record that has the question mark. How else to do that if not merging? --Username (talk) 01:28, 11 April 2025 (EDT)

That is exactly what I did and I reported to you that my Sphere copy has J. R. Pierce (as has the Delacorte, check archive.org).--Dirk P Broer (talk) 05:29, 11 April 2025 (EDT)

And the Dell too.--Dirk P Broer (talk) 05:33, 11 April 2025 (EDT)

OK, I see my Nova 1 edit adding an archived link was approved; it's a recent upload with no borrowing allowed (and for some reason for the last few days clicking on searched pages of books on Archive.org won't take you there unless it's the front/back covers or the first few pages they offer in the preview, hopefully this is temporary and not a new policy they've implemented). Contents page seems to be missing (or maybe there wasn't one) but searching for Pierce gets 1 hit for John R. Pierce in his bio while J. R. Pierce gets 1 hit on the story's title page. On the plus side while looking into all this I found 5 other archived links for various books in the Nova series (1 of them the retitled Outdated Man) so I've added those in edits and also discovered that the note in the title record for the abridged Hale edition of Nova 1 is wrong because there were actually 4 stories removed, not 3, so I'll have to fix that, too. --Username (talk) 02:22, 11 April 2025 (EDT)

re the Can These Stones Speak? case: Dirk, you said "There are five publication records under the title record, only the 1963 one (the variant) has a question mark in the present database" on your talk page. Unless something has changed since you made that comment, you got it backwards. The Can These Stones Speak? variant is in 4 publications. The Can These Stones Speak parent is only in one publication (1953). If the 1953 publication also had a "?", then the merge is correct. Searching the IA scan [1], shows it does have the "?". -- JLaTondre (talk) 07:11, 11 April 2025 (EDT)

The IA scan has an interesting note My thanks are due to Messrs. William Blackwood and Sons for permission to reprint “‘’'The Sweet Singers ”? which first appeared in Blackwood’s Magazine, and to John Leng and D. C. Thomson Ltd. for permission to reprint ‘‘Can These Stones Speak?” which first appeared, under a different title, in The Scots Magazine.. What would have been that title?--Dirk P Broer (talk) 05:57, 13 April 2025 (EDT)

Good catch. Based on the note, it is more likely that it appeared under a totally different title than simply the absence of the question mark. The question mark absence is more typical of secondary sources. Either way, we can only go with the data we have. I unrejected the merge, accepted it, and then added a title note stating the prior publication with an unknown title & date. -- JLaTondre (talk) 07:53, 13 April 2025 (EDT)

It is the form of the rerquest: "Merge these" without any explanation about the former canonical and variant titles. I am not an approval machine.--Dirk P Broer (talk) 20:28, 11 April 2025 (EDT)

Yes, Username's communication manner (both style and clarity) is problematic, but that doesn't make the submission wrong. -- JLaTondre (talk) 06:59, 12 April 2025 (EDT)

re The Higher Things case: This merge also looks valid. The John R. Pierce version is only in one pub. The IA scan (which Username added in another edit) shows that pub actually uses J. R. Pierce[2] like the other versions. Username's merge kept the J. R. Pierce so it would only have changed the one pub that needed changing. However, the resultant title record would have need to have been revarianted back to a John R. Pierce parent. I probably would have done an unmerge and then merged the new record to the variant in order to keep the existing parent but either way works. -- JLaTondre (talk) 13:24, 11 April 2025 (EDT)

Usernames'rejected merge would have removed all J. R. Pierce instances for this title, just because he found one John R. Pierce for the Hale SF edition.--Dirk P Broer (talk) 20:28, 11 April 2025 (EDT)

No, it would not. You are reading the merge backwards. It keeps "J. R. Pierce" (the green value) and removes "John R. Pierce" (the red value). -- JLaTondre (talk) 06:59, 12 April 2025 (EDT)

Except that J. R. Pierce is the variant author name, so it will be replaced with John R. Pierce for the canonical title record.--Dirk P Broer (talk) 07:07, 13 April 2025 (EDT)

Dirk, take a look at this Help section: How merge works. It is a relatively recent addition to the Help notes and is an excellent explanation. Teallach (talk) 13:46, 12 April 2025 (EDT)

JLaTondre, Would you dare unreject the merge and try to find out what it causes? Be prepared for a lot of repair work afterwards....--Dirk P Broer (talk) 05:34, 13 April 2025 (EDT)

Rejected it once again note the exact affected records.--Dirk P Broer (talk) 05:52, 13 April 2025 (EDT)

I unrejected it, merged it, and then varianted the result (as I said would need to be done above) to John R. Pierce. See the result where everything is fine. All solutions to solving required at least 2 edits (merge/variant, import/remove, add/merge/remove). But none break anything and require "a lot of repair work afterwards". -- JLaTondre (talk) 07:53, 13 April 2025 (EDT)

The result looks exact as I saw it eight hours ago, so what is preventing Username to start the complete circus yet again?--Dirk P Broer (talk) 13:05, 13 April 2025 (EDT)

It is not the same as before. The unverified pub that used to have it as by John R. Pierce now has it as by J. R. Pierce (matching the IA scan). The parent no longer has any pubs. -- JLaTondre (talk) 13:23, 13 April 2025 (EDT)

This is the real parent record (not the +2 version), looking just like the previous parent record did: the canonical name (John R. Pierce) with all publications under it, including those of the variant name (J. R. Pierce) as variant title. So Username can again merge those two titles because he thinks one of them is a fake variant -don't say I did not warn you!--Dirk P Broer (talk) 18:05, 13 April 2025 (EDT)

I will make one last attempt, then I am going to drop it. As he states above, Username was fixing the issue where the one pub had John R. Pierce as the credit when it should really have been J. R. Pierce. The merge, following by a variant, is a valid method to resolve that. I have explained this several times and shown the difference in the database state pre- and post- change. Your link and my link are both the real parent. The +2 version shows that there is no longer a pub that has the canonical title. Username is not going to submit another merge as what he was trying to achieve has been achieved. If you still are not getting it, then maybe someone else can explain it better. -- JLaTondre (talk) 18:50, 13 April 2025 (EDT)

Please enlighten me, was a merge of the canonical title record and the variant title record the best procedure here, or could it just as well have been resolved with a simple 'remove title' and 'add title' to that specific publication? --Dirk P Broer (talk) 18:25, 15 April 2025 (EDT)

[3] -- JLaTondre (talk) 12:10, 16 April 2025 (EDT)

Variants Again

For whatever reason the mod above has a problem with 2 of my edits and even after another mod explained they were both acceptable he's still complaining so what I'm going to do is do both of them over again and another mod can approve them. OK, I just made them. --Username (talk) 23:13, 11 April 2025 (EDT)

You should have waited for the discussion to be completed. -- JLaTondre (talk) 07:01, 12 April 2025 (EDT)

Look, I've had trouble with this mod and others incorrectly rejecting my edits for their own personal reasons. It wastes too much time trying to convince them otherwise so you, as the mod who said both were acceptable, could accept my new edits and end this whole thing. Every minute I have to reply on this board is time lost for making other edits. --Username (talk) 07:04, 12 April 2025 (EDT)

You might make use of the 'note to moderator' field to give the moderator more info, and you might be rightfully proved wrong, when it concerns variants.--Dirk P Broer (talk) 06:00, 13 April 2025 (EDT)

Dickinson title and Pierce name merges have both been accepted by another mod so obviously my edits were correct in the first place; in the future don't waste our time with your incorrect rejections because you're mad about whatever and also read the link someone provided you about merging so this doesn't happen again in the future since, as a part-time mod these days, you may have missed some of the updated rules. --Username (talk) 08:49, 13 April 2025 (EDT)

Can you try to explain to me why the present Pierce situation is so much better than two days ago?--Dirk P Broer (talk) 18:07, 13 April 2025 (EDT)

I've already explained above. -- JLaTondre (talk) 18:51, 13 April 2025 (EDT)

chapbook conversions

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2069447

I have just sent in the chapbook conversions for the seven books under this title. Gaz Faustus (talk) 08:36, 11 April 2025 (EDT)

Approved, thanks for the heads up. John Scifibones 08:48, 11 April 2025 (EDT)

Another chapbook conversion

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2520611

the 2 pubs under this title have been submitted for converting - Gaz Faustus (talk) 12:21, 12 April 2025 (EDT)

Approved. Parent created, thanks for the heads up. John Scifibones 13:08, 12 April 2025 (EDT)

yet another chapbook conversion

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2764251

Just submitted these two for converting - Gaz Faustus (talk) 12:42, 16 April 2025 (EDT)

chapbook conversions

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1708845

Another set of step 2 submissions. Faustus (talk) 08:26, 17 April 2025 (EDT)

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-== Inactive editor ==
-I really don't know who to talk to about this, but [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Fangfan408592 this editor] hasn't posted since 2018, or answered any messages since 2014.  I think it's safe to say that they are inactive and will not reply to any messages.  I discovered this while updating Weirdbook magazine.  Anyway, I guess they get to have one of those banner thingies declaring them inactive. [[User:MLB|MLB]] ([[User talk:MLB|talk]]) 04:19, 1 February 2025 (EST)
-: Done. Thanks for the tip! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 11:24, 2 February 2025 (EST)
-== Please add Ido to the language pop-up ==
-I have a Wizard of Oz translated into Ido. Please can a Bureaucrat add Ido to the "Add New Language" popup? The ISO 639-1 code is "io" and the ISO 639-2 code is "ido". Thank you. [[User:Evertype|Evertype]] ([[User talk:Evertype|talk]]) 06:38, 2 February 2025 (EST)
-: Done! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 11:22, 2 February 2025 (EST)
-::Thank you. I just posted a number of Ozzes and used Esperanto for the language for this one as a placeholder, but when I add the cover image I can change it to Ido. [[User:Evertype|Evertype]] ([[User talk:Evertype|talk]]) 09:43, 3 February 2025 (EST)
-== Mermaid of Zennor and Other Cornish Tales ==
-https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?6160302; Can someone approve this? I found a copy online that shows the copyright page and it does say April 1946 so I'm going to add that to the notes. Also, I made another edit changing title story to a short story as it says in Argosy's contents at FictionMags; I guess editor making it a novelette was just a mistake. There is an Eileen Molony born in the UK on IMDB, https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1573919/, but her birth year doesn't match ours. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 08:48, 3 February 2025 (EST)
-:Approved by Chris J on 2025-02-09 22:24:15 . ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 13:06, 17 April 2025 (EDT)
-== Report: Publications with incomplete content and no template ==
-Looking at this report, if I well interpret its meaning, I guess that the following publications can be removed from it:
-*{{P|1025987}}: the content includes all the genre stories;
-*{{P|584317}}: the word "incomplete" is in the notes, but is not about the content list;
-*{{P|374685}}: the word "incomplete" is in the notes, but is not about the content list (although probably the interiorart is missing);
-*{{P|398281}} and {{P|398282}}: the content listing is complete (the content of the original collection is split into two volumes).  --[[User:Fantagufo|Fantagufo]] ([[User talk:Fantagufo|talk]]) 11:32, 3 February 2025 (EST)
-: Done. I have changed the Notes in {{P|398281}} and {{P|398282}} to clarify that they are "split publications". [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 16:03, 3 February 2025 (EST)
-== Please add "Artificial languages" to the language pop-up ==
-The audiocassette accompanying ''Always Coming Home'', called ''Music and Poetry of the Kesh'' has language content but it is not in English, it is in Kesh. ISO 639 has some codes dedicated to individual constructed languages (See [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codes_for_constructed_languages Codes for constructed languages] on the Wikipedia), but Kesh is unlikely to get such a code. Please can a Bureaucrat add "Artificial languages" to the "Add New Language" popup? The ISO 639-2 code is "art". Thank you. [[User:Evertype|Evertype]] ([[User talk:Evertype|talk]]) 13:10, 3 February 2025 (EST)
-: [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/languages.cgi Done]. Given the nature of the material that we catalog, I figured it was liable to happen sooner or later... [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 15:54, 3 February 2025 (EST)
-== 2007 Nebula Award ==
-https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ay.cgi?31+2007
-the script titles are showing up wrong(and for 1 of the 2008 ones) - Gaz [[User:Faustus|Faustus]] ([[User talk:Faustus|talk]]) 14:14, 3 February 2025 (EST)
-: There were 17 award records with corrupted titles. The corruption was due to the award portion of the ISFDB software incorrectly processing double quotes and apostrophes back in the late 2000s and early 2010s. The software was fixed over 10 years ago, but the problems with these award records remained unnoticed until now. I have re-filed the 17 award records, which fixed the problem. Thanks for identifying the issue! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 16:32, 3 February 2025 (EST)
-::>10 years and nobody noticed it - crikey thats a sobering thought..... [[User:Faustus|Faustus]] ([[User talk:Faustus|talk]]) 17:00, 3 February 2025 (EST)
-::: The problem was not visible on regular award pages. You had to view one of the affected awards on one of the annual award pages in order to see the corruption. And it was only 17 awards out 75,697 that we have on file, so the average user's chances of coming across the issue were slim. [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 17:13, 3 February 2025 (EST)
-== Petition: BanjoKev for Self-Approver ==
-Apropos [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:BanjoKev#Self-approving.3F this post], I'm petitioning to put myself forward to be considered for Self-Approver status. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 07:40, 4 February 2025 (EST)
-: Support (for the reasons I already mentioned in the post). [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 09:01, 4 February 2025 (EST)
-: Support - I have reviewed a great deal of Kev's work, it's consistently excellent. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 12:04, 4 February 2025 (EST)
-: Support. Does a good job. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 13:04, 4 February 2025 (EST)
-: Support: ok, perhaps as moderator in future --[[User:Wolfram.winkler|Wolfram.winkler]] ([[User talk:Wolfram.winkler|talk]]) 16:47, 4 February 2025 (EST)
-: support. [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] ([[User talk:MagicUnk|talk]]) 18:30, 4 February 2025 (EST)
-:: Also, I would also approve Kev being a moderator ;) [[User:MagicUnk|MagicUnk]] ([[User talk:MagicUnk|talk]]) 12:47, 5 February 2025 (EST)
-=== Petition: BanjoKev for Self-Approver - Outcome ===
-Hearing no objection, I have set the self-approver flag on BanjoKev's account. Congratulations! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 14:59, 11 February 2025 (EST)
-:Thank you all for setting this value on my work, I really appreciate it! Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 15:43, 11 February 2025 (EST)
-== Uncredited cover art ==
-I just realized that in [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?6160563 this submission] I entered "uncredited" as cover artist instead of leaving it blank (sorry!). I'd very much like not to have to cancel and re-enter it... can a moderator delete it? I'll then replace it with a note. thank you! --[[User:Fantagufo|Fantagufo]] ([[User talk:Fantagufo|talk]]) 15:23, 4 February 2025 (EST)
-: It happens. Moderators will usually approve and eject the coverart post approval (and come talk to you about it) - noone will make you reenter all these stories. :) Approved and the COVERART entry had been ejected and deleted. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 17:16, 4 February 2025 (EST)
-:: Thanks a lot Annie! I added the note and submitted completion of the content titles. --[[User:Fantagufo|Fantagufo]] ([[User talk:Fantagufo|talk]]) 17:37, 5 February 2025 (EST)
-== Report:Publications with ASINs in Notes ==
-{{P|1041652}}  has a note containing the word "ASIN", but it's a comment; I think it can be removed from the report. --[[User:Fantagufo|Fantagufo]] ([[User talk:Fantagufo|talk]]) 11:23, 5 February 2025 (EST)
-: Done. Also, I think we may want to modify this cleanup report to skip <nowiki>{{ASIN|</nowiki> strings. It should reduce the number of false positives quite a bit. Does it sound like a reasonable idea? [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 11:47, 5 February 2025 (EST)
-:: Part of the challenge when we introduced the ASIN template was that people were using it instead of the External ID because they saw that in the documentation and did not read all the way to the External IDs... which is why the report was implemented like that. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 12:05, 5 February 2025 (EST)
-::: Oh, I think I remember it now. No harm in keeping the report the way it is then. [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 12:08, 5 February 2025 (EST)
-== Image delete [x4] ==
-Please delete the following old images: [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/File:NDLNTMSTCK2021.jpg 16 Jan 2025], [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/File:NQNCHBLFRS2012.jpg 25 Jan 2014], [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/File:PVNJBDZQRR2013.jpg 14 Oct 2013 + 7 Oct 2023]. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 07:36, 6 February 2025 (EST)
-: Images? What images? :) Done! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 10:00, 6 February 2025 (EST)
-:: :o, ah :) Thanks Annie. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 10:02, 6 February 2025 (EST)
-== Testing the Prisoner ==
-I received a message on my Talk Page today out of the blue from a moderator named "Username" who claimed to have made revisions to one my novels, Testing the Prisoner. This was what "Username" claimed to have done:
-https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?330041; I added a link to the Archive.org copy uploaded a few years ago, added excerpt starting on p. 181, fixed page count to 191. --Username (talk) 11:11, 6 February 2025 (EST)
-However, when I checked the listing, none of the changes mentioned were made. I replied to "Username" stating as much. Also, I clicked on "Username" and was brought to this bio page: https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User:Username
-The content of this bio concerns me, especially the mention of "Make America Great Again" and "WE WILL NOT COMPLY." Not sure what that's all about? Is this a legitimate moderator? I'm surprised to see political slogans on this site and would appreciate it if people would keep their politics to themselves. Is there a way I can request that only moderators who are willing to identify themselves can touch my records? Why does this site allow anonymous moderators?!?!
-My Talk Page can be found here: https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Pgiunta#Testing_the_Prisoner
-Thank you. <small>—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Pgiunta|Pgiunta]] ([[User talk:Pgiunta|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pgiunta|contribs]]) .</small> 20:11, 6 February 2025‎ (EST)
-: Username is a legitimate editor, not a moderator, so the mentioned modifications will take a while to be approved (or rejected, if you feel they are not founded in reality).
-: Politics should not play a role at ISFDB. However, what someone does with or on his personal talk page is the person's matter (as long as there's no offence or insult included).
-: Hope that does help you in assessing this. Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] ([[User talk:Stonecreek|talk]]) 02:16, 7 February 2025 (EST)
-::As long as it's someone legitimate, that's fine. As a corporate IT professional for 30 years, I was alarmed to see someone with a generic username editing records. In most situations, that's bad practice due to a lack of accountability and could compromise data security. Thanks for allaying my suspicions. [[User:Pgiunta|Phil]] ([[User talk:Pgiunta|talk]]) 04:39, 7 February 2025 (EST)
-::: A quick clarification re: ISFDB usernames. We use MediaWiki software to create/maintain user accounts and to run this Wiki. It saves development time since we don't need to develop/maintain Wiki capabilities of our own, but it also limits what we can do on the Wiki side, including managing usernames.
-::: The only MediaWiki-supported limits on usernames that I am aware of are described [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgInvalidUsernameCharacters on this MediaWiki page]. It lets Wiki administrators disallow certain characters in usernames, but it doesn't let them disallow generic usernames. [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 11:29, 7 February 2025 (EST)
-::::[https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgReservedUsernames This] can be used in LocalSettings.php to create an array of disallowed usernames. If this is added here, I recommend adding in all the defaults it lists in order to prevent any issues. Instead of this, however, I recommend using the following if you want to implement something like this: [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TitleBlacklist This extension] can be used to prevent people from creating accounts with specific usernames (see [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:TitleBlacklist#Example:_Using_TitleBlacklist_to_control_user_account_creation this section]). ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 19:18, 7 February 2025 (EST)
-:::::No worries and no need to implement anything different. I was merely concerned at first because I thought my record was hacked. I then learned that Username is a legitimate editor here and has been editing records since December 2020. That's good enough for me. We can close out this matter. Thanks! [[User:Pgiunta|Phil]] ([[User talk:Pgiunta|talk]]) 08:48, 8 February 2025 (EST)
-== Installment vs. Instalment ==
-There are 9 instances of the spelling 'Installment' on [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:NewPub#Date this page]. Should it be 'Instalment'? There may be other pages with the same spelling. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 16:44, 9 February 2025 (EST)
-:Depends on the region. Installment is correct in the USA. Instalment is correct in the UK. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 17:17, 9 February 2025 (EST)
-::Thanks, I thought that may be the case. Ok as it is then. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 17:26, 9 February 2025 (EST)
-== Pseudonym clearance ==
-Please, could a moderator approve of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?6166008 this] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?6166005 that] submission? Background: I was approached in an email conversation that ISFDB likely does err in that the authors [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?166627 Herbert W. Maly] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?5561 Wolfgang Jeschke] would have to be unvarianted (as having nothing to do with each other). As I got proof that this ain't the case (by approaching one of the contributors of the anthology in question), it'd be nice if we could show we were right as soon as possible. Thanks, Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] ([[User talk:Stonecreek|talk]]) 07:48, 10 February 2025 (EST)
-Oh, and it'd be nice if [https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Author:Herbert_W._Maly this page] would be deleted, as it is now obsolete. Thanks, [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] ([[User talk:Stonecreek|talk]]) 07:52, 10 February 2025 (EST)
-:As requested. The template <nowiki>{{Deletion candidate|reason}}</nowiki> will save you a post on the moderator noticeboard. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 09:10, 10 February 2025 (EST)
-== Jay Wolf / M. Daniel McDowell ==
-Submission #6138742 to make M. Daniel McDowell (#380097) an alternate name of Jay Wolf (#390170) has been pending since 2025-01-08.  Is there a problem with the submission, or is additional information needed for approval?
-All of my other submissions made around the same time (or after) have been approved, and there have been no messages regarding this one.
-Thanks.
-[[User:MikePalumbo|MikePalumbo]] ([[User talk:MikePalumbo|talk]]) 09:06, 10 February 2025 (EST)
-: Sorry about the delay! The issue with this submission was that we needed to determine whether {{A|M. Daniel McDowell}} or {{A|Jay Wolf}} was going to be the canonical name and which one the alternate name. As per [[Template:AuthorFields:CanonicalName]] (also linked from the ISFDB FAQ):
-:* The canonical name is the name under which a particular author's bibliography is organized. For authors who publish under multiple names, the canonical name is the most recognized name for that author within the genre. The canonical name may be a pseudonym, for instance Cordwainer Smith [snip]
-: In this case we have the author's [https://mdanielmcdowell.substack.com/p/and-the-writer-is Substack announcement], which says:
-:* "I am retaining M. Daniel McDowell for my fiction writing", but "If you want to follow some of my other whatnot, the easiest place to find me on social media is through my carrd—I'm @jayxwolf just about everywhere".
-: Given that we list two novels as by {{A|M. Daniel McDowell}} and one essay as by {{A|Jay Wolf}}, I have made "M. Daniel McDowell" the canonical name. Thanks for the submission! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 23:58, 10 February 2025 (EST)
-== Report: Publishers with Latin Names and Non-Latin Titles ==
-It looks like the first 6 publishers in this report, and Foreign Languages Press (China) too, are entitled to have non-latin titles and could be removed from the report, IMHO. --[[User:Fantagufo|Fantagufo]] ([[User talk:Fantagufo|talk]]) 11:26, 11 February 2025 (EST)
-: Updated, thanks! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 13:17, 11 February 2025 (EST)
-== The Blade Runner Experience Publication date ==
-Before I edit [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?372010 this one]. I would like some thoughts on this before I make some edits.
-Firstly I think the publication dates of the [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?80504 tp] and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?372010 hc] are possibly transposed. My Wallflower Press hardback copy in hand has no reference to 2006, but definitely states 2005 for pub year.  I would simply edit pub date to 2005-00-00 as no month or day is known for this copy. But there are a few online sources including Amazon and [https://cup.columbia.edu/book/the-blade-runner-experience/9781904764304 Columbia U Press] (who now own Wallflower) who state the pub date is 2006-02-21.
-Also the book in hand has 250pp not 240 as the previous sources state. [https://search.worldcat.org/title/61129818 WorldCat] also states 250pp. So I trust this is ok to at least alter.
-Please let me know how I should proceed regarding the hc record - Alter the date to 2005-00-00? Common sense say use the the date in the book, but prefer to check before making a long edit to include detailed notes. Thanking you in advance. [[User:ReadingMovies|ReadingMovies]] ([[User talk:ReadingMovies|talk]]) 17:21, 12 February 2025 (EST)
-:An archived HC copy was uploaded recently so I added a link and fixed count to x+250 in a PENDING edit. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 18:03, 12 February 2025 (EST)
-::Thanks for correcting the page count and adding the archive link. That was on my list of additions too. I will add other notes to the record. [[User:ReadingMovies|ReadingMovies]] ([[User talk:ReadingMovies|talk]]) 09:47, 14 February 2025 (EST)
-== Blue Apes ==
-https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?6172189; I think there's a problem, my image created a separate page instead of replacing someone else's image, fix needed. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 21:56, 17 February 2025 (EST)
-:There is no issue. The image URL for the pb version had been reused on the the hc edition. Yours was the first upload of the hc version. I approved your submission. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 07:33, 18 February 2025 (EST)
-== TWO identical listings: Full Spectrum 3 trade paper edition ==
-just noticed the trade paper version of Full Spectrum 3 has two identical listings. Quoting from lyrics of the Dire Straits song "Industrial Disease": "... Two men say they're Jesus. One of them must be wrong." :) Thx in advance for cleaning up. <small>—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Markwood|Markwood]] ([[User talk:Markwood|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Markwood|contribs]]) .</small> 16:03, 19 February 2025‎ (EST)
-:[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?651862 One] has a number line (per the notes), and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?14818 the other] does not. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 19:25, 19 February 2025 (EST)
-::Oh. Missed that. Sorry to bother you. Thx! [[User:Markwood|Markwood]] ([[User talk:Markwood|talk]]) 21:20, 19 February 2025 (EST)
-:::No worries. It's good to keep an eye out for duplicates, as they do pop up now and then. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 21:37, 19 February 2025 (EST)
-== My tags ==
-When I was putting in some tags for some books for [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?290186 J. R. Frontera]'s books, and I got [https://isfdb.org/wiki/images/d/df/Tags.jpg this message]. Am I doing something wrong? [[User:MLB|MLB]] ([[User talk:MLB|talk]]) 06:56, 20 February 2025 (EST)
-: I tried on the same book ([https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?2826906 this one] and managed to add and remove a tag. Can you try again - maybe the server was in the middle of something? [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 11:35, 20 February 2025 (EST)
-:: It looks like it may have been a software problem. The tag "Aquarius" already existed in the database and its internal ID was 21299. However, the screenshot that MLB posted shows that the software thought that it was 21300, an "off by one" error. I am going to ask the other user of this tag, [[User:Gzuckier]], if he was doing anything with this tag this morning. Thanks for reporting the issue! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 12:37, 20 February 2025 (EST)
-:::No, whenever I use the <b>"Show All Tags"</b> link at the bottom, I get the same thing. I tried it with a story by Robert E. Howard and  get the same thing. My fault? [[User:MLB|MLB]] ([[User talk:MLB|talk]]) 19:47, 20 February 2025 (EST)
-:::: Nope, not your fall! With the additional information about "Show All Tags", I was able to recreate the issue. It looks like a database index got out of sync, perhaps due to the backups. I will work on it on the development server starting tomorrow morning. Thanks for the report! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 22:16, 20 February 2025 (EST)
-:::::: Fixed -- see [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/edit/edittags.cgi?2826906+1 this Web page]. [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 12:16, 21 February 2025 (EST)
-:::::Speaking of "Show all tags", could a duplicate button for that be placed at the top of the tag listing page? Would that be something easy to implement? ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 11:45, 21 February 2025 (EST)
-:::::: It would be easy to implement. However, Al is currently in the middle of making system-wide changes to facilitate migrating the software from Python 2 to Python 3. I try to minimize the number of software patches since every patch means that Al has to re-do some of what he has already done. For now, I have created {{FR|1639}}, "Enhance the Tag Editor". [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 12:37, 21 February 2025 (EST)
-:::::::That's a good thing to be doing (moving to Python 3). I'm fine with waiting. Thanks to you and Al for all your work on the backend stuff. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 13:10, 24 February 2025 (EST)
-== Dragonheart Image delete ==
-Hi. Sorry, I have managed not only to upload twice but have the wrong pixel height for upload. Can these be deleted? This [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/File:DRGNHRTHZK1996.jpg one] and this [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/File:BKTG13510.jpg one]. I will upload the correct size shortly. Many thanks. [[User:ReadingMovies|ReadingMovies]] ([[User talk:ReadingMovies|talk]]) 16:38, 20 February 2025 (EST)
-:Use the upload new version link in the file history section and then I'll just remove the old image. for [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/File:DRGNHRTHZK1996.jpg this one]. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 16:47, 20 February 2025 (EST)
-:: Meanwhile these two are deleted as requested. I (or another moderator) can undo if needed... [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 16:48, 20 February 2025 (EST)
-:::Thanks for your help guys and swift response. I have made the upload and new edit. Hope this is now ok. Many thanks. [[User:ReadingMovies|ReadingMovies]] ([[User talk:ReadingMovies|talk]]) 17:02, 20 February 2025 (EST)
-== Image delete (x8) ==
-Please delete the old images, all dated 10 February 2025: [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/File:THCLLCTDST2023.jpg], [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/File:THCLLCTDSD2023.jpg], [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/File:THCLLCTDSG2023.jpg], [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/File:THCLLCTDSF2023.jpg], [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/File:THCLLCTDSK2023.jpg], [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/File:THCLLCTDSJ2023.jpg], [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/File:THCLLCTDSM2023.jpg], [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/File:THCLLCTDSL2023.jpg]. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 14:40, 21 February 2025 (EST)
-:All eight deleted as requested. Remember the time each user see is based on their time zone. They were all dated February 9th between 9PM and 10PM for me. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 15:01, 21 February 2025 (EST)
-::Thanks John! ...I had to use something, as they were all dated in February - but you got it nonetheless :) Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 15:20, 21 February 2025 (EST)
-:::Maybe it would be better if I used "earliest dated" in future that would solve it. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 15:58, 21 February 2025 (EST)
-::::For each publication, It's clear you uploaded anew image and your intent is to get rid of the older one. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 16:29, 21 February 2025 (EST)
-== ''The Time Machine'' length ==
-I suspect many of us have seen it and averted our eyes....  In the queue is a [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?6134636 submission] that would change the length of {{T|25149|The Time Machine}} from NOVEL to NOVELLA, because its word count is significantly below 40,000 (low to mid 30s).  What do we want to do about that?  I somehow can't see converting hundreds of pubs to chapbook. --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] ([[User talk:MartyD|talk]]) 07:56, 22 February 2025 (EST)
-:Sorry, I missed a discussion about this same topic on the Community Portal. --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] ([[User talk:MartyD|talk]]) 08:33, 22 February 2025 (EST)
-== Do you need additional help assessing and moderating new content? ==
-Hi, I'm Marcus Whitnell, a science Fiction author and the current Nebula Awards Commissioner for the SFWA. I often use your database to validate submissions to our reading list and, after adding the details of my 1st book to your catalogue, noticed the waiting time for validation.
-I live in the UK and see you only seem to have one moderator on this side of the puddle.
-I'd be happy to muck in and assist where I can with your backlog (I'm guessing the process is very similar to the Nebulas: research, validate publication information and confirm legitimacy of ascribed contributor details).
-Let me know if this is useful, and if so, what you need from me.
-Best wishes,
-Marcus <small>—The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:Mwhit|Mwhit]] ([[User talk:Mwhit|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Mwhit|contribs]]) .</small> 17:27, 27 February 2025‎ (EST)
-: Welcome to the ISFDB project, Marcus! New editors are always great to have and yes, as you mentioned, we have a significant backlog at the moment. Re: becoming a moderator, we have [[Moderator Qualifications]], a Web page which describes what moderators need to know and what they are expected to do. The most important thing for moderators is to have an in-depth knowledge and understanding of [[ISFDB:Policy#Contents.2FProject_Scope_Policy]], which describes what is eligible for inclusion, and our extensive web of interlinked [[Help:Contents|Help pages]] starting with [[Help:Screen:NewPub]], which covers the data entry basics.
-: One thing that is not covered by the current version of [[Moderator Qualifications]] is the fact that we added an intermediate level of approver privileges a couple of years ago. In the past, we had "editors" and "moderators"; experienced and willing editors eventually became moderators. Now we have "editors", "self-approvers" and "moderators", so the typical path is "editor" -> "self-approver" -> "moderator".
-: Again, welcome to the project! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 19:14, 27 February 2025 (EST)
-== Length ==
-While editing an anthology I had a thought that it would probably be cleaner to have the drop-down menu when adding length to a story read "short story, novelette, novella" instead of "novella, short story, novelette" as it is now. Is there an easy way for a mod to do that? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 19:57, 28 February 2025 (EST)
-: Moderators can't do it; it would require a software change.
-: That said, I think I made a similar suggestion a few years ago, but the idea didn't gather much support. If you think it would be beneficial, I would suggest posting on the Community Portal. If there is enough support, I will create a Feature Request. [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 15:36, 1 March 2025 (EST)
-::not a top priority, but I would support the request --[[User:Fantagufo|Fantagufo]] ([[User talk:Fantagufo|talk]]) 17:11, 1 March 2025 (EST)
-::If you're creating a feature request, perhaps make it so ''any'' drop-downs are sorted alphabetically (or at least displayed alphabetically). When I first started editing here, it was confusing trying to find the right choice in some of the drop-downs since they seemed to be randomly arranged. This includes the Title Type and Length drop-downs in various submission forms, and the Search (the main one at the top left of the vertical menu bar in the database) drop-down. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 10:52, 3 March 2025 (EST)
-::: FYI, the proposed FR is currently being discussed over on the [[ISFDB:Community_Portal#Feature_Request_--_Sort_order_of_.22Length.22_values|Community Portal]]. [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] ([[User talk:Ahasuerus|talk]]) 11:05, 3 March 2025 (EST)
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