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== Contacting Aliens: An Illustrated Guide to David Brin's Uplift Universe ==
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== Go Quest ==
  
I'm reaching out to the primary verifiers of the title because I believe it should be re-categorized from "Nonfiction" to "Collection" and I need to gain a consensus. You're marked as a verifier of the 2002 trade paperback edition of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?7947 Contacting Aliens: An Illustrated Guide to David Brin's Uplift Universe]. I think that "Collection" is a better descriptor for the work as it is written in the style of an in-universe guidebook and the contents are all short, encyclopedic entries about fictional alien species and cultures. (Side note, I'm not sure if I am setting up a new topic on your page correctly - my apologies if I've done so incorrectly.) [[User:Leporidae|Leporidae]] ([[User talk:Leporidae|talk]]) 12:11, 13 February 2023 (EST)Leporidae
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5858329; Minor fix to note's C$ price. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 13:03, 13 January 2024 (EST)
:My verification was a transient verification (meaning I only had the book temporary). I don't recall enough about it to weigh in - I'm fine either way. Nonfiction vs fiction for "in universe" writing is a borderline case where valid arguments can usually be made either way. I don't have a strong opinion on it. Though, if you are going to change it to collection, the individual contents should be entered. And yes, you created a new section correctly. The "Add topic" button at the top of the screen will work on any talk page. Thanks. -- [[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 17:13, 13 February 2023 (EST)
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:Approved. Thanks for catching the typo. -- [[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 16:51, 13 January 2024 (EST)
::Thanks for the quick response. I own a copy of the book, so I would be able to tackle adding the individual contents as needed. [[User:Leporidae|Leporidae]] ([[User talk:Leporidae|talk]]) 10:54, 14 February 2023 (EST)Leporidae
 
  
== The Epic of Gilgamesh ==
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== Riding the Nightmare ==
  
Hello JLaTondre!
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Hi, thanks for verifying my very first edit. However, I've obviously done something wrong. The stories on this collection (except 1) are all on the database already and they appear duplicated now instead of the stories already on the database being linked to the collection.
  
Way back in [[ISFDB:Community_Portal/Archive/Archive49#The_Epic_of_Gilgamesh|2020]] you wanted to fix how The Epic of Gilgamesh is presented in the database, and I'd like to return to this discussion, because I think that is extremely wrong to present this work as a "Novel". I have sent to Anniemod how I would like [[User_talk:Anniemod#The_Epic_of_Gilgamesh|to change it]]: what do you think? Thanks, [[User:ErickSoares3|ErickSoares3]] ([[User talk:ErickSoares3|talk]]) 06:11, 4 March 2023 (EST)
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The story "Voices in the Night" first appeared on a 2018 anthology named "Uncertainties, volume III", edited by Lynda E. Rucker which is not on this database. I got the publishing date off Goodreads.
:I have not read the book so I do not have opinion on that change. Thanks. -- [[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 08:09, 4 March 2023 (EST)
 
  
== Dragon's Eye ==
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The story "The Dragon's Bride" is already on the database, but the version included here is a "revised and expanded version" to novella-length as is stated on the copyright page of the stories in the collection. I don't know if it should be linked to the story here or create a separate listing with a (expanded) credit as I submitted.
  
https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?11080; I was looking for St. Patrick's Day-related stuff and came across Conly's work in this book; I think it should be a poem. Also, most of the stories don't have lengths; Baen's site has first 3 stories readable, 2nd and 3rd stories' text was entered on wordcount.com and both are 9,000+ words, novelettes, but I can't say for sure about the rest. I've made an edit just adding uploaded-in-2021 Archive.org link and LCCN ID. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 08:47, 17 March 2023 (EDT)
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Thanks a lot. {{unsigned|Delage82}}
:Edit approved. I changed "Saint Patrick's Last Snake" to a poem. Thanks for pointing that out. As for lengths, feel free to update as you see fit. I'm not one for estimating based on counting words on a page. Unless there is an electronic version to run through a word counter, I don't bother with lengths. -- [[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:18, 17 March 2023 (EDT)
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:When you type in the content records of a publication, it will create new title records for each of the contents. When the contents already exist in the database, it is better to use the Import options and import the existing records. When there are duplicates, you can go to the publication record and click the "Check for Duplicate Titles". This will give you a listing of items that match in title, author, and type and allow you to merge them. I have done that for this publication.  
  
== ISFDB File: space for images ==
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:When we have revised / edited works, how we handle them depends on how different the works are. If the changes are minor, we would have one record and add a title note stating that there are revisions for certain versions. When the changes are more extensive, we leave them as separate records and add title notes. I have done that here. We would only include the "(expanded)" if that is how it appeared on the title page which doesn't sound like it.
  
Cover image File:PPPNTHSTHS1970.jpg --Pippi VSB 1970, [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=File:PPPNTHSTHS1970.jpg&oldid=658317 here]-- is on my list to pursue upon return to work here. I see you have cleaned up that page in the meantime by a simple delete of "Licensing" heading and its {Cover image data} template. I believe that I followed Help: instruction that didn't mention "Summary" or "Licensing", nor that the template might be duplicated. Is yours an expected final step, before when the upload has been executed properly? Should the "Licensing" heading sometime be used, with its version of the template alongside (splitting the content data) or instead of the "Summary"? Some pages use the template without any heading.
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:Let me know if you have any questions on the above. Thanks. -- [[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 17:03, 13 January 2024 (EST)
  
(This was the first image I have added to ISFDB, and may have been the first File: page that I have edited.) --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 18:42, 2 April 2023 (EDT)
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== Girl in a Swing Cover Artists ==
:When using the "Upload new cover scan" from a publication page, the software will automatically add a licensing template with all the fields completed. You only need to manually select a licensing template when you are uploading directly to the wiki (for example, when adding author photographs). If you manually select a license template, it will add the template, but you will need to then edit to fill in the fields. Since you manually selected a licensing template when using the "Upload new cover scan" option, it added the automatic filled in license template and also the incomplete license template (which had to be deleted). So when using "Upload new cover scan", do not select a license template. When not using "Upload new cover scan", select a license template and then added the correct parameters. Hope that was a clear enough explanation. -- [[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 08:29, 5 April 2023 (EDT)
 
  
== Dracula TP ==
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https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1503211; I discussed covers on RTrace page recently and I don't think UK HC should be by Murray but instead by Reginald George Haggar. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 19:32, 5 February 2024 (EST)
 
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:Updates made. Thanks. -- [[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:42, 5 February 2024 (EST)
https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5672679; This should be a HC, I think, based on flaps and other similarly priced Walker books in 2010 on ISFDB being HC. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 17:04, 23 May 2023 (EDT)
 
:I will have to dig that one out. It may take a couple days. I remember it as a soft cover, but I will double check. -- [[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 17:39, 24 May 2023 (EDT)
 
:It is tp. The flaps are not from a dust jacket. Instead, the publisher extended the paper cover wider than the book and folded it over. I added a pub note explaining this. Thanks. -- [[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 16:57, 2 June 2023 (EDT)
 
 
 
== Fantasy 2002 ==
 
 
 
https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:GlennMcG#Fantasy_2002; See this message in case you agree those things need changing/adding because active PV rarely responds. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 09:28, 29 May 2023 (EDT)
 
:The PV has updated the record. -- [[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 16:58, 2 June 2023 (EDT)
 
 
 
== VSftAS ==
 
 
 
https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?700067; www.ebay.com/itm/285131768243; It says Metro Books on copyright page with a $6.98 price in back cover barcode. ISFDB has 5 books by Metro Books and 2 by MetroBooks. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 13:03, 29 May 2023 (EDT)
 
:Cloned a record for the fourth printing, updated the publisher for the first printing, and added notes. -- [[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:00, 2 June 2023 (EDT)
 
 
 
== Highwaymen ==
 
 
 
https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?17090; While adding Archive.org link I also fixed title, it's & Rogues. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 14:19, 4 August 2023 (EDT)
 
:Approved. Thanks for finding. -- [[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 20:13, 5 August 2023 (EDT)
 
 
 
== (The) Weight of Light ==
 
 
 
You're the PV of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?707743 ''Weight of Light'']. The [https://csi.asu.edu/story/weight-of-light/ HTML version] doesn't have "The" before the rest of the title. However, all the other versions do have "The" at the beginning. Should we create a variant for the webpage (HTML) version, or just add a note indicating that difference? I have the epub, Apple books, PDF, and [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3217368 print] versions of this book, and all of those have "The" in the title. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 19:39, 17 August 2023 (EDT)
 
:I added the "The" as I have the MOBI edition also and then merged the title record with the tp edition. I removed "Interior art credit per HTML version" as looking at the MOBI version, the artists are credited in it also. Regarding note or variant, I could go either way. I guess I would lean toward the note, but not a strong opinion. Do you have a preference. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 20:18, 18 August 2023 (EDT)
 
::I'd also lean toward the note, since that's the only difference I can see. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<font color="darkgreen">日本穣</font>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<font color="blue">投稿</font>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]]</small> 21:41, 21 August 2023 (EDT)
 
 
 
::: Hi, there's the one essay "Designing in Sunlight" by multiple authors in both of the verified copies, but one lists '''J'''oshua Loughman, the other '''L'''oshua Loughman (I'd think the first is correct, but please do check it). Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] ([[User talk:Stonecreek|talk]]) 02:16, 23 August 2023 (EDT)
 
::: Also, the essay by Samantha Janko is titled differently in the two entries. Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] ([[User talk:Stonecreek|talk]]) 04:34, 23 August 2023 (EDT)
 
::::I double checked the ebook and the record matches the publication. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 17:31, 23 August 2023 (EDT)
 
 
 
== Dalby Tiger ==
 
 
 
https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?191077; https://richarddalbyslibrary.com/collections/newest-shopify-test/products/richard-dalby-the-anthology-of-ghost-stories-tiger-books-1994-first-edition-1; Price really is £9.95. Notes are in your style so if you want to add price and where it came from that's OK because I'm off most editing until October otherwise I'd do it myself. EDIT: I think the last word in note should be edition, not addition. There's also a British book by Tiger Books on ISFDB; related to this Tiger, maybe? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 13:41, 17 September 2023 (EDT)
 
:I added a note about the richarddalbyslibrary.com price, thanks. "Addition" is correct. The sticker is a latter addition to the book; not that the book is a latter edition. I clarified the wording so hopefully that is clearer. It is possible Tiger Books and Tiger Books International are the same. You may want to ask [[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] to double check his book. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 14:12, 17 September 2023 (EDT)
 
::OK. What's the rule for adding the price to the record's "price" field outside of just the note? Because it's not there. Should I add it myself? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 17:08, 17 September 2023 (EDT)
 
:::Fixed it. I missed it wasn't entered. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 18:00, 17 September 2023 (EDT)
 
 
 
== Held Submission ==
 
 
 
Hi JLaTondre
 
 
 
You may have missed my response to your [[User talk:Rtrace#In the Companhy of Battered Women|question]].  The same editor has submitted a duplicate prompting a further question.  You can go ahead and approve the first submission.  I've asked the other editor to reject the second as a duplicate.  Thanks.  --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 15:53, 20 September 2023 (EDT)
 
:Approved. Thanks for pinging me. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 17:38, 20 September 2023 (EDT)
 
 
 
== Bradbury Chronicles ==
 
 
 
https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5782439; I noticed your copy was transient so letting you know there's this copy and also a 3rd printing, https://archive.org/search?query=0060545844+2006, which I'm not sure about because PV, who hasn't left a message on their page for 5 years, didn't specify printing. The date can't be correct because it's the same as the first printing but the price does match. Also, the P.S. in the titles should probably be removed because that's an extra section in the later editions, not actually part of the title. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 08:28, 4 October 2023 (EDT)
 
:Edit approved. I will look into the other edition & update that in next couple of days. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:58, 4 October 2023 (EDT)
 
::Harper Perennial edition updated. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 09:16, 7 October 2023 (EDT)
 
 
 
== CoFL ==
 
 
 
https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5782976; We crossed edits. I corrected title (in 3 places), added OCLC, and cleaned up a couple of words in one line of the notes. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 19:56, 4 October 2023 (EDT)
 
:Please do not immediately edit works that have just been submitted. Editors may still be working on them. I rejected the your submission as it would have changed back items that had already been corrected. I then fixed the title and typo. Thanks for finding those. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 20:04, 4 October 2023 (EDT)
 
::OK. You seem to be done so I added OCLC in a new edit and fixed a typo in your Gutenberg edition's note. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 20:22, 4 October 2023 (EDT)
 
 
 
== Gothic Tales ==
 
 
 
https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?872173; This is actually 3rd printing of 2009 ed. as defined by 3 at bottom of copyright page. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 19:45, 6 October 2023 (EDT)
 
:Correct. That is what the quoted printing history states. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 08:27, 7 October 2023 (EDT)
 
 
 
== Vampire Stories ==
 
 
 
https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5790080; There's also a Clydesdale edition, https://archive.org/search?query=skyhorse+conan+doyle, if you're interested. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 17:50, 15 October 2023 (EDT)
 
:I added the Clydesdale edition. That is an odd one. It has the Skyhorse copyright page including the ISBN of the Skyhorse edition. From what I could find, Clydesdale is a promotional imprint of Skyhorse. Maybe some type of remaindered edition? --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 19:09, 16 October 2023 (EDT)
 
 
 
== Sword History ==
 
 
 
https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/se.cgi?arg=sword+h&type=Publisher; You entered Outlander because of its award but there was an earlier book with a slightly different spelling of the publisher so the 2 books should probably be combined under one publisher. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:56, 17 November 2023 (EST)
 
:Combined under "&" version. The earlier book also used "&" per the Amazon Look Inside on the e-book version. --&nbsp;[[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 18:40, 17 November 2023 (EST)
 

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Go Quest

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5858329; Minor fix to note's C$ price. --Username (talk) 13:03, 13 January 2024 (EST)

Approved. Thanks for catching the typo. -- JLaTondre (talk) 16:51, 13 January 2024 (EST)

Riding the Nightmare

Hi, thanks for verifying my very first edit. However, I've obviously done something wrong. The stories on this collection (except 1) are all on the database already and they appear duplicated now instead of the stories already on the database being linked to the collection.

The story "Voices in the Night" first appeared on a 2018 anthology named "Uncertainties, volume III", edited by Lynda E. Rucker which is not on this database. I got the publishing date off Goodreads.

The story "The Dragon's Bride" is already on the database, but the version included here is a "revised and expanded version" to novella-length as is stated on the copyright page of the stories in the collection. I don't know if it should be linked to the story here or create a separate listing with a (expanded) credit as I submitted.

Thanks a lot. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Delage82 (talkcontribs) .

When you type in the content records of a publication, it will create new title records for each of the contents. When the contents already exist in the database, it is better to use the Import options and import the existing records. When there are duplicates, you can go to the publication record and click the "Check for Duplicate Titles". This will give you a listing of items that match in title, author, and type and allow you to merge them. I have done that for this publication.
When we have revised / edited works, how we handle them depends on how different the works are. If the changes are minor, we would have one record and add a title note stating that there are revisions for certain versions. When the changes are more extensive, we leave them as separate records and add title notes. I have done that here. We would only include the "(expanded)" if that is how it appeared on the title page which doesn't sound like it.
Let me know if you have any questions on the above. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 17:03, 13 January 2024 (EST)

Girl in a Swing Cover Artists

https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1503211; I discussed covers on RTrace page recently and I don't think UK HC should be by Murray but instead by Reginald George Haggar. --Username (talk) 19:32, 5 February 2024 (EST)

Updates made. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 19:42, 5 February 2024 (EST)