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If you're writing to inform me that you've either added a COVER IMAGE or NOTES to any of my VERIFIED PUBS, please click HERE and add it to the bottom of the list. A link to the pub record would be appreciated. Once the pub has been reviewed, I'll remove your note from the list. Thanks. Kraang




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The Arsenal Out of Time

Could you check your copy of The Arsenal Out of Time? I think I have the same edition, but on the backcover of my copy Kelly Freas is credited for the cover art. Thanks, --Willem H. 12:19, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

I'll have to check on the weekend, book is in storage boxes.Kraang 00:19, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
Mine's the same.Kraang 21:17, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

News from Elsewhere

The artist for [this] is Kelly Freas. Confirmed by email with Freas' agent who has the preliminary sketches but had no idea what book the artwork was used for. He's a happy camper! Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 04:22, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

Thanks!Kraang 23:00, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

The Cingulum

Can you check the cover art credit as stated in this publication? I have a suspicion that "Norma" and "Segrelles" are two different credits: one for his art agent and one for him (he's often credited as his last name only.) Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 21:14, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

I'll have to dig this one out of the storage boxes later today.Kraang 16:21, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
"The Cingulum" credited as "Cover art by Norma Segrelles"Kraang 21:19, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

The same situation with this publication. These are the only two credits for "Norma Segrelles" in the database. Mhhutchins 21:15, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

On "Downtiming..." it's credited as "Cover art by Norma Segrelles"Kraang 16:16, 16 February 2014 (UTC)

Diving Into the Wreck

Does this 2009 publication have an ISBN-13 anywhere on it? Thanks for checking. Mhhutchins 02:48, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

It does and I've fixed it. Thanks!Kraang 03:00, 17 February 2014 (UTC)

Men Against the Stars

Hello, is it possible that your verified pub is the same as this quite similar one ?. Hauck 14:27, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Based on past experience mine will probably be a Canadian printing and sometimes they have a different number, but I'll check and update the listing. Thanks!Kraang 04:06, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
Here's an example[1]Kraang 04:09, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
Yes, I was thinking along such lines but was surprised by the similar price. Hauck 07:52, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

Land of the Dead

I've added the uncredited poem '"From the Annals of Cuauhtitlan" that appears on page 11 to our verified pub. It also appears in the earlier volumes in the series. PeteYoung 23:21, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks!Kraang 00:47, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

The Destiny Dice

This and this publication look identical to me. The title of the book based on my copy is "The Destiny Dice" by David Bischoff. Should these two be merged together? TAWeiss 00:27, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

I'll have to pull this one from storage and check the title page.Kraang 01:27, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

The Forgotten Planet

Hi, I want to add The Forgotten Planet to the Masters of Science Fiction series, would you agree?--Dirk P Broer 18:46, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Sounds fine. Thanks!Kraang 23:42, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Sword of Lankor

Found a signature on the cover of [this], just beside the front figure's shoulder. Added the artist credit. Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 17:30, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Another mystery solved. Thanks!Kraang 02:08, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Destiny Dice

Can you look at these entries?: Destiny Dice and The Destiny Dice. They appear to be the same item but with slightly different titles. The correct title is "The Destiny Dice" and I've uploaded a cover scan to that entry. In addition, the cover artist is credited as "Kraft" on one entry and "Craft" in the other. The correct attribution is "Kinuko Craft" according to the copyright page. I think a merge might be in order.SFJuggler 21:26, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Book is in storage will look on weekend.Kraang 00:30, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
Fixed the title but the variant of "Hall" is incorrect.Kraang 04:19, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
This and this publication look identical to me. Shouldn't they be merged?
Deleted the duplicate pub.Kraang 03:23, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

If the Stars Are Gods

Can you take a look at your copy of If the Stars Are Gods? My copy states that the Sterbach art is on page 94 and it actually is. The cover art is credited on the copyright page. Mine also came with an errata slip indicating that chapters from the previous version of the novel were accidentally reprinted and that the reader should skip from page 21 to 41.SFJuggler 05:57, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

Book is in storage will look on weekend.Kraang 00:31, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
still looking, was not in storage box must be on shelf.Kraang 04:31, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
Mine's the same as yours but without the errata slip, so the current info was added after I verified my copy and the 2nd verifier Bill recently passed away. Ill create a new record and move my verification and add a note about the errata slip in some books. Hows that sound?Kraang 02:03, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

The One-Eyed Man

Replaced the amazon image for [this], also added the Afterword and the short story. The latter presents the obvious: this is [technically] an omnibus. Also, I'm sure some enterprising editor will present the [novel  ;-))] idea that the subtitle be included in the title record [I like them just fine in the notes, though this one is at least interesting ....]. Your call as first PV. Cheers! --~ Bill, Bluesman 05:10, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

The Ethos Effect

Please confirm that an ISBN-13 is present in this 2004 publication. The ISBN-13 wasn't implemented into 2005, but I suppose it's possible that a publisher may have jumped the gun. Make sure it's not the 13 digit EAN printed above the barcode which was the forerunner of the ISBN but isn't exactly the same thing. Thanks for looking. Mhhutchins 17:43, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

Will check. Thanks!Kraang 02:47, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Help question on Canadian printings

I posted a query on the Help Desk about an apparent Canadian edition. My impression is that you're our resident expert on such issues, so if you have a moment, I'm hoping you'll look at the question. Chavey 04:29, 19 June 2014 (UTC)

Edward Valigursky

Please see this discussion regarding covers by Edward Valigursky. Thanks. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 01:52, 24 June 2014 (UTC)


Hi. You've verified the hard cover edition of the book Extremis. I have a copy of the paperback edition. The artwork appears to be identical, but your copy credits Kurt Miller, while my copy credits David Seeley. Someone placed a note in the paperback notes, perhaps when the record was created, which indicated that the credit to David Seeley was not correct, but didn't give a source. I was trying to resolve this, and it was suggested that I contact you to begin with, and ask you to check your copy for the artist. I guess it's possible that it was wrong in the paperback edition, but on the other hand, since it's a later edition, it might reflect a correction, or maybe the artist is using a pseudonym. Thanks, Jack Sjmathis 18:26, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

The cover artist is Seeley but the dust cover credits Miller for illustrations. Have a look at the note I added. Thanks!Kraang 00:59, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
Thanks very much. Jack Sjmathis 12:26, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Joel Shepherd's 23 Years on Fire


re the publication you've primary verified here: I have a copy of this book & would like to make the following changes to the publication record:

- change the page count to 435 - this being the highest printed page number on my copy.
- add Stephan Martiniere as the cover artist (from back cover).
- add $18.00 as the price in Canada (in the Notes).
- change the publication date to just 2013-09-00 because Amazon now states 10th September (not 3rd) & the publisher's website here isn't more specific than September.

- replace "Data from as of 2013-07-18." with "Month from Amazon US."

Please advise if these changes are OK by you. --clarkmci / j_clark 22:50, 5 August 2014 (UTC)

That's fine. Thanks!Kraang 02:21, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
Done. --clarkmci / j_clark 06:42, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

Alan Dean Foster's The Dig

Long ago, you verified a copy of Alan Dean Foster's The Dig . The image is an Amazon scan. I have a copy of the same publication, except the cover has printed a sticker-like seal stating "SPECIAL OFFER ON The Dig (tm) CD-ROM Game! See Last Page". And on what would be page 312 is a full page offer (after a blank page 311). If your copy matches the existing cover without the offer, I'll create a new entry, otherwise I'll upload my image to this pub. Thanks. Doug 16:45, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Sorry I missed this post. I'll be away till Sept 30, will check boxes when I get back.Kraang 03:47, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
The other verifier (PortForlorn) confirmed his copy had the special offer, so I have updated the image from the Amazon image to my scan. Doug 16:35, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Foundation and Earth / The Story Behind the Foundation

There are two title records for the essay "The Story Behind the Foundation": This one that appears in a pub record that you verified, and this one that appears in a pub record verified by SFJuggler. I believe the two title records refer to the same essay and should be merged. Would this be OK with you? I have invited SFJuggler to join this discussion. Thanks, Patrick -- Herzbube Talk 00:10, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

That should be fine. Thanks!Kraang 00:52, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

L.E. Modesitt, Jr.'s The Eternity Artifact

Can you verify the Canadian price for this pub of L.E. Modesitt, Jr.'s The Eternity Artifact? The entry claims a Canadian price of $9.99, but my copy has $10.99, visible on the spine and inside front cover. I will also be checking with other two primary verifiers. Thanks. Doug 16:20, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

Verified and updated by Hauck. Doug 16:43, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

CHAPTERBOOKS =/= series data

The title records of CHAPTERBOOKS should not be entered into a series. The SHORTFICTION content should be. I've moved the series data of Deadly Night: Jenni and Katie's Untold Tale from the CHAPTERBOOK to the SHORTFICTION. Thanks. Mhhutchins 07:34, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

Thought that's what I had done? Must have done the reverse.Kraang 03:32, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

As on a Darkling Plain

Hi, I found your cover artist, it is Dean Ellis, look at this title Wenn die Sterne verlöschen for the same picture in mirror-image, where Dean Ellis is credited.--Dirk P Broer 10:32, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

The Rithian Terror

Hi I found the cover artist for your verified copy of The Rithian Terror. It is Chris Achilléos. No vague website here!.--Dirk P Broer 20:00, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

OK! Thanks!Kraang 04:29, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
I don't think Dirk is gonna change anything. I added the artist and a note. --Willem 09:32, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
I figured he would submit change and never checked. Thanks!Kraang 23:49, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

Armageddon 2419 A.D.

Hi. In your verified pub, does it have a foreword on p.7 by Robert A. W. Lowndes? If so, shouldn't that be entered as a separate content and the page number for the start of the novel be pushed to p.9? Thanks, Doug / Vornoff 21:57, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

It's there please submit update. Thanks!Kraang 01:00, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
New content submitted. Also added some notes. Thanks, Doug / Vornoff 03:33, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

The Garbage Chronicles

Can you look at your copy of The Garbage Chronicles? My copy has a subtitle, "Being an Account of the Adventures of Tom Javik and Wizzy Malloy in the Faraway Land of Catapulted Garbage" on the title page.SFJuggler 05:26, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

I don't see why mine would be different.Kraang 02:31, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

Darwin's Radio

My Del Rey/Ballantine hc of Darwin's Radio has the Afterword on p. 419, A Short Biological Primer on p.421 and Short Glossary of Scientific Terms on p.423. Also the cover image is by David Gifford, not Heather Kern who is credited as the designer. Contacting you as PV1 before I make the changes? PeteYoung 21:59, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

OK. Thanks!Kraang 02:42, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

Chalker Nathan Brazil

You PV'd this book. My copy also "First published...1986" number line ending 2 definitely has "Cover illustration by Peter Goodfellow" on rear cover. My copy has a white advert block on rear at top for all four volumes. Credit is in this box. Could you check please ? Thanks. --Mavmaramis 17:25, 15 May 2015 (UTC)

Will look.Kraang 02:41, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

Sin in Space

Cover art for this book is by Robert Stanley, credit from here. Record amended accordingly. --Mavmaramis 05:45, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

Same cover, different artists

This cover is credited to Ed Valigursky. The same cover is part of the artists website R. S. Lonati, cover #26. --Zapp 18:25, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

They have very similar styles and have unaccredited work. I would suggest dropping Ed as the cover artist and adding a note and the link to Lonati.Kraang 02:50, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

The Mutant Weapon vs. Med Service

Please see ISFDB:Community Portal#The Mutant Weapon vs. Med_Service as a primary verifier of The Mutant Weapon / The Pirates of Zan. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 23:45, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Default display of non-English translations

When you get a chance, could you please review this discussion? The proposal basically boils down to changing the behavior of the Summary Bibliography when the viewing user is not logged in. Currently only English translations are displayed for unauthenticated users. The proposal would change it to displaying all translations. The downside is that the Summary page could get longer and harder to navigate.

I am trying to get a sense of how widespread the support for this change is. TIA! Ahasuerus 01:03, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

Author's Note for Chalker's 'Quintara Marathon' trilogy

Letting you know I've merged the three "Author's Notes" that appeared in each separate publication of this Jack L. Chalker trilogy (in which we both have one or more verified publications) as they are all the same essay. I've given them the universal title Author's Note (The Quintara Marathon) and merged. A note has been added to this title regarding one very minor text difference, but they are essentially the same essay. Thanks. PeteYoung 14:45, 21 October 2015 (UTC) Thanks!Kraang 02:54, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

Prayers to Broken Stones interior art

There are seven substantial pieces of interior art in your verified Prayers to Broken Stones that illustrate individual stories, and for which we have no records. If it's OK with you as PV1 I'd like to add them (PV2 also notified). PeteYoung 19:41, 29 October 2015 (UTC)

That would be fine with me. Thanks!Kraang 02:22, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
Done. I've had to add a note to the effect that the interior art appears on unnumbered pages that are not part of the book's pagination (which by using the bar method makes the contents listing look a little odd). Also, that the artist's signature is visible on the front cover. PeteYoung 19:11, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

Vietnam and Other Alien Worlds

The cover credit for our verified Vietnam and Other Alien Worlds is given to "Thomas Kidd", the pseudonym, however does your copy have "Tom Kidd" on both the inside back cover and the copyright page, as mine does? Thanks for looking. PeteYoung 08:13, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

It's Tom Kidd will fix. Thanks!Kraang 22:23, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

Ballantine 1st paperback of Sturgeon's 'More Than Human'

There are 2 records for the 1st printing of Ballantine #46 'More Than Human'. I believe the one you (and Don Erikson) verified,, should be deleted, but first wanted to check with you to see if there's a reason to keep both of the records. The one you verified credits publisher "Ballantine Books". The other record,, credits "Farrar, Straus and Young with Ballantine Books" as shown on the title page (and front cover.) Is there a reason to keep record #204081 which does not credit Farrar Straus & Young? Thanks. (And, FYI, I'm checking with Don Erikson, also.) Markwood 05:24, 16 November 2015 (UTC)

Let me dig out my copy before anything is deleted.Kraang 04:35, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
Ok, I agree delete the record.Kraang 01:34, 19 November 2015 (UTC)

Amazing Stories, December 1947

Hi. Regarding your pv'd Amazing Stories, December 1947 "The Observatory is actually on p.6 instead of 9. On p.84 I was wondering why you have it credited to "unknown" and varianted when it is credited to "Alexander Blade" on the title page? On p.100, the actual title on the title page looks like it should be Space Ships Limited: VI. Life on Other Planets. I see that there are five others, (all with slightly different titling formats) leading off with "Space Ships Limited" - maybe that should have a series. Also, I see that the essay for "The Rain of Fish" never occurred (as you note) but shouldn't the full page artwork (uncredited as far as I can tell) be entered on p.180 (the back cover)? Thanks for any input, Doug / Vornoff 20:03, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

Please make any changes you feel are necessary and someone overseeing magazines will deal with it. Thanks!Kraang 00:10, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
Will do. Thanks, Doug / Vornoff 00:22, 4 January 2016 (UTC) Submitted, except I see now that it looks like "unknown" is standard practice for use if author is a made-up name like "Alexander Blade" which has been used by many authors and the actual author is not known. I left it alone. Thanks, Doug / Vornoff 01:20, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

The Engineer Reconditioned

I have a copy of the mass-market paperback version of The Engineer Reconditioned and noticed a minor mistake. The story "Proctors" begins on p. 184, not 182 as currently stated in notes & contents. Is this true of your copy as well?

I would also like to change the notes to add some information, so that they would end up like this:

  • Printing date from Locus1
  • The copyright page has no printing information nor is it contained anywhere else in the book.
  • The title page says “Cosmos Books” for the publisher.
  • Copyright page says “Published by Dorchester Publishing Co., Inc. . . . in collaboration with Wildside Press LLC.” Also “Copyright © 2006 by Neal Asher.” Copyright page and UPC label on back of book give both ISBN-13 and ISBN-10.
  • Each story begins with a brief (1-page or less) introduction by the author, with the exception of “Snairls.”
  • The contents page of this edition does not include "Proctors" page 184 and "The Gurnard" page 292.
  • The short story "Snairls" begins on page 114 with the sentence “The other passengers went to their cabins. . .” It is untitled and not included in the contents page.
  • On back cover: Art by Ian Field-Richards. Design by Gary Nurrish.
  • On back cover below UPC code: $6.99 US $8.99 CAN £5.99 UK $14.95 AUS
  • OCLC <a href="">213856887</a>

Note also left with Wjmvanruth. BungalowBarbara 03:09, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

Make the changes. Thanks!Kraang 03:08, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
Done. Thank you! BungalowBarbara 05:34, 12 January 2016 (UTC)

More on the contents of The Engineer Reconditioned

I just obtained (from my local library) a copy of the earlier trade-paperback version of The Engineer Reconditioned and have been able to compare it to the mass-market paperback version verified by yourself, Wjmvanruth and myself. This has revealed that the mass-market edition does include the stories of "Jable Sharks" and "The Thrake". Like the story "Snairls", in the mass-market version, they do not have any preceding introduction or even a story title. One story ends and the other one begins after a short gap on the page. They are not listed in the Table of Contents. (Plainly this version was not proof-read properly!!)


In the trade version, "Spatterjay" ends with the sentence "Her own blueness was hidden by the natural colour of her skin, though Ambel had told her she had a pretty blue-white circle in the middle of her back." "Jable Sharks" starts with the sentence "The ship: three masts stitched across the horizon, black against the lemon sky." See page 151 of the mass-market paperback, where one story ends and the other begins with no title or introduction, just a gap.
In the trade version, "Jable Sharks" ends with the sentence "He wonders what the Captain read that frightened him so badly, and if he ever read any more." "The Thrake" starts with the sentence "To Mark, the runcible was the altar to some cybernetic god of technology, and he felt like an acolyte come before it for the first time." In the mass-market version, "Jable Sharks" ends at the bottom of page 164, with a gap with three asterisks in it. "The Thrake" starts at the top of page 165 with no title or introduction.

I will be making changes to notes and contents of the mass-market paperback. Note also left with Wjmvanruth. BungalowBarbara 01:32, 13 January 2016 (UTC)

Unibook date 'codes'

My brain is slipping ... totally neglected to post you on [this]. Harry isn't here anymore and Rhschu hasn't responded on his/her talk page in a couple of years. If your copy has the same code, can you or Willem amend the record? I just noticed the date-code in a first pass and won't get back to that book for about a week [piles and piles on my desk ...] or I can do it when I get back to that stack. Thanks! --~ Bill, Bluesman 00:34, 24 February 2016 (UTC)


Image URL found for this pub. --Zapp 13:15, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

Cover artist for Extremis by Steve White and Charles E. Gannon

Please see the discussion here. The artist is Dave Seeley, and I've submitted corrections for the cover title and notes on the the entries. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 05:00, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

The Web of the Chozen

The Cover Art for The Web of the Chozen shows a price of $2.95 in the top right hand corner. My copy has $2.50 on the front page and matches all the publication details. Would you like me to upload a scan of my copy? --AndyjMo 16:19, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

Sorry I've been away for a few days. Let me check my copies and get back in a couple of days. Del Rey was producing US and CDN printings at this time with different prices to reflect the currency. The current images appear to be wrong and I'd like to figure out what is on the publishers page and on the back. Thank!Kraang 03:46, 6 September 2016 (UTC)

The Dying Earth

Hi, I've imported content for your verified copy of The Dying Earth.--Dirk P Broer 01:02, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

A. McWilliams / Alden McWilliams

Hi. Alden McWiliams (Al McWilliams) is the same person as A. McWiliams, as seen here and other websites. I've pseudonymed A. McWilliams to Alden but that leaves a string of titles that normally would need to be varianted. So my question is: You have verified titles attributed to A. McWilliams on this list. If that was by actual credit, they should be varianted to Alden but if it was by a signature only, the name should be changed to Alden McWilliams, as I see it by our rules. Here are the ones you've verified, could you check them and make any changes? Sorry to burden you with this but I thought it was the right thing to do to. I'm sending this out to RTrace, Rkihara and MLB, who have different issues with the same situation.
Citadel of the Green Death (3) in Planet Stories, Fall 1948
Preview of Peril in ditto.
Thanks, Doug / Vornoff 04:22, 25 September 2016 (UTC)

Sorry I sold my pulps a few years ago and should have removed the verifications.Kraang 03:35, 13 October 2016 (UTC)

Unearthly Neighbors

User Horzel found the artist (Robert (Bob) Blanchard) for this verified pub. I added the credit and a note about the auction of the original art. --Willem 10:03, 30 October 2016 (UTC)

The Pirates of Zan

Hi, the cover artist of The Pirates of Zan (Ace double 1971) is Gil Cohen, as can be seen on Thanks. Horzel 12:56, 14 November 2016 (UTC)

Thanks submit the change.Kraang 01:23, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

Geliebter Roboter

Hi, here are different pubs with different contents and different pages together only since they have the same title and author. Is this right? --Zapp 15:38, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

Changes to John G. Hemry/Jack Campbell pubs

I am changing John G. Hemry's canonical name to Jack Campbell; this is affecting some of your verified publications. --Vasha 17:52, 31 March 2017 (UTC)

A batch of nongenre stories - if you disagree please comment

Currently there are numerous non-genre horror stories that are in the database because it's natural to just enter a book of horror or "tales of terror" without figuring out which stories are supernatural. I don't intend to systematically hunt for them, but when I spot one, I like to mark it nongenre. (In the case of classic stories, marking is better than removing it from the database because it'll just get re-added with some new anthology.) At the moment, I've spotted the following stories that I think need such a change, and I'm consulting people who have them in their verified pubs.

Firstly, there's Great Tales of Terror and the Supernatural (verified copies: (1), (2), (3), (4), (5), (6), (7)), which contains "A Terribly Strange Bed," "The Three Strangers," "The Most Dangerous Game," "Leiningen Versus the Ants," "A Rose for Emily," "Taboo," and undoubtedly other non-supernatural ones that I'm not noticing at the moment. Here are verified publications for those and some other stories (yours is bolded):

Are there any of those stories you think ARE genre? Vasha 15:17, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

ADDENDUM: Discussion moved to the Community Portal. --Vasha 00:50, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

Particle Theory

This is about your PV of Particle Theory. The last story is credited as "Afterword: To See" on 245, at the tops of the odd numbered pages in the story, and in the Contents. The publication had been verified as containing "To See". I went ahead with adding the VT.

I also updated the pub notes:

  • Change "First Timescape Books printing, October, 1981" to "First Timescape Books printing October, 1981" (the pub record had an extra comma) to match how it's formatted on the copyright page.
  • Added "Another Original publication of TIMESCAPE BOOKS" (on copyright page)
  • Change "Printed in the US" to "Printed in the U.S.A." to match how it's formatted on the copyright page.
  • Moved "OCLC <A href="">8131798</a>" to the external link thing.

--Marc Kupper|talk 17:40, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

ASFAIC, I tend to skip the "Introduction", "Prologue", "Afterwords" etc... parts of titles as it (IMHO) makes for an "heavy" presentation. In this specific case, I found the varianting a bit of an overkill. Hauck 17:54, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
Changes are all correct. Thank, --Willem 19:07, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
@Hauck, if you chose to not record a title as stated then there should be a pub-note documenting the stated title. Please see Template:TitleFields:Title. --Marc Kupper|talk 05:56, 13 June 2017 (UTC)


This is for Sundiver

  • I changed the pub-note "Cover artist is uncredited and signature not visible on cover." to:
    The cover art is credited as "Cover art © 1980 by Bantam Books, Inc." Signature not visible on cover.
  • Added "bp" page number for Sundiver [2] interior artwork to fix the ordering.
  • Added notes to the title records for the interior drawings one and two describing them.

I'm not sure why there are separate records for the interior drawings as I suspect all Bantam printings have both drawings on adjacent pages. We don't list the page numbers for any of them other than being in the bp section of the publications. Our records for later printings (with the new cover) only have one of the drawings in their contents. I've left a notes with a couple of verifiers as I suspect those printing have both drawings. If that's the case I'd like to propose deleting the Sundiver [2] interior artwork title record and to have the record for Sundiver interior artwork be for both drawings. Another option is to change the titles to "The Sunship - Side View" and "The Sunship - Top View". --Marc Kupper|talk 07:55, 13 June 2017 (UTC)


Please see User_talk:Bluesman#βehemoth. --Marc Kupper|talk 02:52, 28 June 2017 (EDT)

Between Planets

Turns out there were two printings of the title under the same catalog #. Notes explain the one difference. [1] and [2] --~ Bill, Bluesman 15:03, 2 September 2017 (EDT)

2nd Foundation: Galactic Empire

Hi, I've imported content for 2nd Foundation: Galactic Empire.--Dirk P Broer 18:05, 24 September 2017 (EDT)

Kothar and the Wizard Slayer

When you're around, can you take a peak at [this]? Thanks! --~ Bill, Bluesman 17:12, 7 October 2017 (EDT)

The Birth of Flux & Anchor

The Birth of Flux & Anchor: The publication date in this record is “1985-12-00” which matches the copyright page in my copy “First printing: December 1985”. However the Notes say “First Printing: October 1986”. Is this a mistype or are there 2 First Editions? --AndyjMo 09:14, 27 October 2017 (EDT)

Elephant Song

Elephant Song; the current Notes say that there is no artist signature on the artwork. On my copy there is the top half of a signature John Rush at the bottom right of the cover. Is it there on yours? --AndyjMo 07:30, 6 January 2018 (EST)

The Strange Case of Mr. Pelham

Hi. At 15:46 you were too quick for me, or I was too slow or sloppy for you, as I worked on the 1st UK ed. of this novel P408468. Commonly I submit a record, notice from the display that I should improve it immediately, and do so without deleting the former from the queue until the improvement is there. Sorry about that. --Pwendt|talk 16:46, 4 March 2018 (EST)

The Chessmen of Mars

I am adding ERB's essay on Jetan or Martian Chess to this publication. ../Doug H 16:27, 9 April 2018 (EDT)

Beyond the Farthest Star

I have added Lupoff's foreword to this pub and changed the page number for Wollheim's foreword to page 2. ../Doug H 10:31, 10 April 2018 (EDT)

The Lost Continent

I've added Wollheim's Foreword to this publication. ../Doug H 15:44, 10 April 2018 (EDT)

Orbit -> Orbit (US) changes

Hi. I have several submissions on hold that propose to change "Orbit" and some other Orbit variation publisher credits to "Orbit (US)" based on ISBN and price. Some of them affect your verified publications. Would you have a look and let me know what you think? I'm posting inquiries to the other active verifiers, too. Thanks. --MartyD 08:44, 30 June 2018 (EDT)

I ended up accepting the proposed change. Please review. --MartyD 19:21, 9 July 2018 (EDT)

Ursus of Ultima Thule

Nitramyeldud found the cover artist for Ursus of Ultima Thule based on a listing for the original artwork. As a new user, the submission wasn't quite right so I re-did it with the proper publication note & canonical artist name. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 17:32, 8 July 2018 (EDT)

Cover artist for Zardoz

User Horzel found the cover artist of your verified Zardoz. I added the credit and a note about the source. Thanks, --Willem 14:49, 29 July 2018 (EDT)

A Dark Travelling INTERIORART

Is the interior art in your verified pub the same illustration as the cover art for this edition? That same illustration appears inside the Hutchison hardcover. Bob 17:39, 25 September 2018 (EDT)

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