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Annie Yotova: Annie - Talk Most days, at all kinds of hours. US Mountain/AZ (UTC-7)
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Contents

Publishers to merge, 2017-05-01

Both The Feminist Press and The Feminist Press at CUNY refer to the entity whose full name is "The Feminist Press at the City University of New York". I think they could be unified under the shorter form because I don't believe there's another Feminist Press. --Vasha 04:35, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

Done. Hauck 06:37, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

Canonical name change: Arlan Andrews, Sr.

Arlan Andrews has more publications by "Arlan Andrews, Sr." now. --Vasha 14:57, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

The note for Andrews reads like a PR blurb. Maybe it should be toned down?--Rkihara 15:19, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
I did actually submit a change removing those encomiums! Will whoever posted them try to change it back, though? --Vasha 19:09, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

author name correction, 2017-05-01

Seamus Sweeney should be Séamus Sweeney. Vasha 19:44, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

And another: D. J. Tyrer should be DJ Tyrer. I have checked just about all of those publications! --Vasha 04:10, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
Done. Hauck 06:36, 7 May 2017 (UTC)

Canonical name change: Peter Rawlik

The majority of Peter Rawlik's fiction is credited to "Pete Rawlik". --Vasha 19:02, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

Publishers to merge, 2017-05-11

Unsung Stories / Red Squirrel and Unsung Stories. I don't think there's any reason to have the parent company of the imprint listed. --Vasha 23:07, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

Done (merged to the simpler one, IIUC). Hauck 07:16, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

Please ignore these Japanese titles

On Japanese Titles with Latin characters, please ignore the following:

  • 狼と香辛料 (18) Spring Log
  • Elements
  • Re:ゼロから始める異世界生活 3
  • Re:ゼロから始める異世界生活 4
  • SFアトランダム(1)—FORRY・4Eのことども—
Done (1 left). Hauck 07:20, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

On Japanese Titles with a Latin Author Name, please ignore:

  • All entries with an author of "Toi8".
Done. Hauck 07:24, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

On Publication Series with Latin Names and Non-Latin Titles, please ignore:

  • Dragon Magazine Special
  • Novaコレクション
Done. Hauck 07:27, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

Thanks! ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 23:14, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

Publisher name to correct 2017-05-13

Hellbound Books should be HellBound Books. --Vasha 20:38, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

Fixed. Albinoflea 20:42, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

Baen Webscription ebooks

Baen Books has been selling eBooks on their web site. They don't use ISBNs but instead have "SKU" numbers. Unfortunately, people have been adding publication records to ISFDB and using the Baen SKU numbers in the ISBN field without prefixing them with #.

Apparently manufacturers are allowed to invent their own SKU numbers. SKU numbers are not regulated nor standardized. The good news for Baen is unlike ISBNs they don't need to pay someone for each number used. Unfortunately, Baen seems to be using SKU's that are the same as ISBNs for earlier editions of a title. They are also using numbers previously used by other publishers such as Ace, DAW, etc. See A.+Bertram+Chandler for an example of their titles.

I have no idea why but one or more people are also converting Baen SKU numbers into ISBN13s prior to adding them to ISFDB. For example, a search for ISBNs starting with 9780879 includes:

Matilda's Step Children2007-12-00A. Bertram ChandlerBaen978-0-87997-845-7$4.00ebookwebsubscriptionSKU 0879978457
Star Courier2007-12-00A. Bertram ChandlerBaen978-0-87997-834-1$4.00ebookwebsubscriptionSKU 0879972920
The Anarch Lords2007-12-00A. Bertram ChandlerBaen978-0-87997-653-8$4.00ebookwebsubscriptionSKU 0879976535
The Big Black Mark2007-06-00A. Bertram ChandlerBaen978-0-87997-726-9$4.00ebookwebsubscriptionSKU 0879977264
The Last Amazondate unknownA. Bertram ChandlerBaen978-0-87997-936-2$4.00ebookwebsubscriptionSKU 0879979364
The Way Back2007-12-00A. Bertram ChandlerBaen978-0-87997-352-0$4.00ebookwebsubscriptionSKU 0879973528
To Keep the Ship2007-12-00A. Bertram ChandlerBaen978-0-87997-827-3$4.00ebookwebsubscriptionSKU 0879978279

All of those were originally DAW books ISBN10s (published in the 1970s and 1980s). The link in the title column is to ISFDB's pub record for the Baen Books eBook edition.

This note is a heads up that:

  1. Ideally people adding these also link to the source on Baen's web site.
  2. That as it's an SKU and not an ISBN that the number be prefixed with # in the ISBN/Catalog # field. It's Baen's catalog number.
  3. That people should not be converting SKU numbers into ISBN13 values.

--Marc Kupper|talk 23:45, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

Errol Le Cain

There is one work in the database by Errol LeCain, COVERART T1007122 primary verified transient by User:BLongley who is bannered no longer active with us.

I submitted TitleUpdate to change the name [1], following Wikipedia Wikipedia, LCCN n79-061362, LC and WorldCat library records for one new collection in the queue [2] (with illustrator credit as "Errol LeCain", which I'll fix later).

(BLongley's record does not give a source for the cover artist credit.)

--Pwendt|talk 00:46, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

That seems like the correct thing to do. Chavey 04:45, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

Vintage Crime/Black Lizard

I think that our "Vintage Crime / Black Lizard" publisher names should be changed to "Vintage Crime/Black Lizard"; this is how the name of the imprint appears in books, and it is not an imprint and its parent, the way that " / " is usually used here. Currently we have Vintage Crime / Black Lizard / Vintage Books, Vintage Crime / Black Lizard / SFBC, and Vintage Crime/Black Lizard / SFBC.

: Thanks for doing this. --Vasha 18:02, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

Author names to correct, 2017-04-21

James Robinson Planche to James Robinson Planché, and J. R. Planche to J. R. Planché. Thanks! --Vasha 00:40, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

Done. -- JLaTondre (talk) 01:26, 19 May 2017 (UTC)

Publisher Haikasoru

Can someone merge Haikasoru and Haikasoru / Viz Media. If I am reading the rules correctly, we should use the impring / parent name although either way works for me. Thanks!Annie 03:56, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

That could get tricky. The problem is we have 20 verified pubs under Haikasoru scattered over several years. I'd want to be certain that Haikasoru was never a standalone company. For example MM9 (2012) is for the tp edition. There's an Amazon Look Inside of the Kindle edition which has "Haika" over "soru" on the title page. The copyright page has that Haikasoru is published by VIZ Media. I'd want to check all 20 verified pubs before making the change.
Also, should it be "Haikasoru / VIZ Media" rather than "Haikasoru / Viz Media"? The company seems to use VIZ though https://www.viz.com/company-about does not explain how the name came about. --Marc Kupper|talk 08:42, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
They were officially launched in 2009 as a series that grew into an imprint. So all of the books under both publishers above had always been in the imprint. Not sure about the VIZ/Viz. Never existed as a separate publisher. Annie 10:02, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
PS: I do not mind defaulting on the shorter one (everyone but one PV seemed to prefer that) but then what is the point of our rules about the imprints :) So what is next - get all the PVs together and try to find out what is preferred? Annie 18:09, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
When I verified MM9 I accepted the default at the time which was for "Haikasoru", although the copyright page does add "Published by VIZ Media, LLC". I'm not troubled either way which one we adopt, but I do think they should all be under one name. At the moment we use "Haikasoru" mostly for the tp editions and "Haikasoru / Viz Media" predominantly for the ebook editions (similar to the way we split "Gollancz" and "Gollancz / Orion" for their SF Masterworks publications). Also, I think it should be "VIZ" as opposed to "Viz" – their Wikipedia page uses both but the company's website (e.g. their 'About' page) predominantly uses VIZ. My two cents. PeteYoung 22:26, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
"VIZ" isn't an acronym, though, and we tend to normalize other capitalization. Tor uses "TOR" a lot, but we don't use the all caps version. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 22:44, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
The reason I asked is because I ended up with one of the books in my hands and decided to clear this up before I verify it (so I can verify with the correct publisher) :) Thanks for chiming in! Annie 22:30, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
They have never been separate companies. Haikasoru is actually not a company. It's not surprising that Viz doesn't have any separate entries since they publish mostly manga and anime, neither of which we include here. Haikasoru is their imprint for novels. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 22:44, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Cover artist for Super Science Novels Magazine, May 1941

This verified publication (http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?60764) has Morey listed as cover artist. The artist is not credited in the magazine, but the cover has a clear signature "Gabriel H Mayorga" on the artwork. I'd like to change the attribution for the cover to "Gabriel Mayorga." Thanks, Ldb001 00:38, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

Done. Hauck 06:28, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
Thank you! Ldb001 19:34, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

canonical name change : L. S. Silverthorne

Time to change L. S. Silverthorne to Lisa Silverthorne. --Vasha 02:52, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

Change note in Kurd-Laßwitz-Preis category

Can someone please change the note of the Kurd-Laßwitz-Preis category Beste Grafik einer deutschsprachigen Ausgabe to:

Best artwork first published in a German-language publication. Artwork which has been published in a non-German publication before the German publication is not eligible for a nomination. Superseded "Bester Grafiker" in 1993.

Thanks, Jens Hitspacebar 18:11, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

Done. Hauck 18:22, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

New Moderator nomination

(Moved to the Community Portal as per the standard process. Ahasuerus 14:57, 18 June 2017 (UTC))

Publisher name merges and edits

We have records for both Pyr and Pyr / Prometheus. I see no reason to list the parent company of this imprint (there was never a time when it was different), so please merge these as "Pyr". Thanks --Vasha 12:11, 21 June 2017 (EDT)

Also, per discussion, please merge Apex Book Company into Apex Publications, keeping Publications. --Vasha 07:05, 22 June 2017 (EDT)
Done! Stonecreek 06:46, 1 July 2017 (EDT)

Typos

I submitted the contents for Analog Science Fiction and Fact the July-August 2017 issue, and like a total idiot I misspelled Don Sakers name. If accepted, I will then correct this idiocy. Sorry. MLB 00:26, 25 June 2017 (EDT)

Accepted and fixed after that. :) Annie 01:14, 25 June 2017 (EDT)

Fleetway / Sexton Blake Library

Among five books, this publisher has two Publisher pages: Fleetway Publications / Sexton Blake Library and Sexton Blake Library. One of the books under the first of those has Sexton Blake Library as the Publication Series, so it's entered as "Fleetway Publications / Sexton Blake Library (Sexton Blake Library #458)."

I would suggest the two Publisher pages should be merged as simply "Fleetway Publications," since (as with digest series in other countries) "Sexton Blake Library" is indeed the Publication Series and not an imprint or publisher. Fleetway is named on the covers. If a moderator can change those Publisher pages, I'll add the Publication Series to the individual books that need it (none are Primary Verified). MOHearn 13:47, 30 June 2017 (EDT)

None of those are verified and from what I can find, I agree with your analysis. Let's give everyone a few more days for objections (due to the long holiday weekend in the USA) and I will proceed and get them sorted out. I will also ping the secondary verifier to see if he has a reason to keep them that way (some of the verifications are not in online sources so I cannot check and I would rather ask) :) Annie 23:59, 4 July 2017 (EDT)
Currey lists the publisher a couple of ways: Sexton Blake Library Fleetway Publications Ltd for the Moorcock title and just Fleetway Publications Ltd for the Tubb one. If they were lesser known I doubt the series/publisher would even be on here. None of the books are anything but mysteries. At the very least they should be non-genre. No preferences here. --~ Bill, Bluesman 14:41, 6 July 2017 (EDT)
If they are mysteries, should we just nuke them from the DB and solve the issue that way? Or are those in the "above threshold" case? If they are, I can certainly add the non-genre flag while reworking the publishers... Annie 15:38, 6 July 2017 (EDT)
According to SFE3: "The World-Shakers! (1960 chap) by Rex Dolphin (see Peter Saxon) – was a UFO tale. Another – Caribbean Crisis (1962 chap) by James Cawthorn and Michael Moorcock – was Moorcock's first novel." Ahasuerus 15:42, 6 July 2017 (EDT)
Thanks! In they stay then with no flags (for now). I will rework the publisher and the publisher series to get them all together then based on MOHearn's proposal. Annie 15:45, 6 July 2017 (EDT)

Sorry multiple pages in discussion

i created multiples of same query -- could you please remove the additonals? Thnaks —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Akua (talkcontribs) . on 23:10, 4 July 2017 (EDT)

Done and no worries.
PS: If you want to sign your messages, you can just add ~~~~ (that is 4 times the symbol ~ at the end of your messages. Welcome again :) Annie 23:33, 4 July 2017 (EDT)

Extending of input mask

Hello, can we (you) extend the input mask by several fields? E. g. "Translator", "Printing", "Edition", "Weight", "Dimensions". These data can I read often in the notes, but this is confusing. This would be better and more structured. Thanks. --Wolfram.winkler 03:46, 12 July 2017 (EDT)

There are plans to add more fields staring with catalog IDs and improved ISBN/price support. However, it's an involved process and will take time to implement. Ahasuerus 11:46, 12 July 2017 (EDT)
Hello Ahasuerus, please hurry up. --Wolfram.winkler 05:22, 13 July 2017 (EDT)
Alas, there are many competing priorities. I have installed 284 patches this year, but there are only so many hours in a day... Ahasuerus 09:26, 13 July 2017 (EDT)
Please do NOT hurry up. I would much rather see careful, accurate progress. Chavey 05:54, 16 July 2017 (EDT)
I agree with Chavey: Please choose accuracy over speed. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 00:03, 25 July 2017 (EDT)

ISBN-ASIN reconciliation: Part 1

Now that:

  • our software supports third party ISBNs, and
  • the vast majority of ASINs has been migrated to the new field

we can start reconciling ISBNs and ASINs.

As most of you probably know, Amazon typically doesn't display ISBNs for e-pubs. However, they are available via Amazon's back end API which Fixer has access to.

Fixer has identified 578 publications which:

  • have an ASIN external ID
  • do not have an ISBN in the publication record
  • have a matching ISBN in Fixer's database

I have tweaked Fixer's software to create 578 submissions to assign ISBNs to our ISBN-less pubs. You can see the first one here. It's currently on hold pending moderator feedback. If everything looks OK (including Note to Moderator), I will proceed with creating the other 577 submissions, probably in batches of 50 or so. Ahasuerus 20:20, 19 July 2017 (EDT)

When adding an ISBN to a pub, does the duplicate ISBN warning logic occur? -- JLaTondre (talk) 20:53, 19 July 2017 (EDT)
Yes, the submission display software will perform the normal checks, including the check for duplicate ISBNs. Ahasuerus 21:10, 19 July 2017 (EDT)
If so, the "Once approved, please check for possible duplicate publications" could be changed to state need to investigate if the warning is present. -- JLaTondre (talk) 20:53, 19 July 2017 (EDT)
Upon reflection, I should probably check for pre-existing duplicate ISBNs at submission creation time. It won't be completely bulletproof since Fixer's database is at least a few hours behind the main database, but it will make the approval process more straightforward. Also, I guess it's possible to have multiple ISBN-less publication records for the same e-book (from Amazon, B&N, etc.) It may be better to keep the moderator note sufficiently vague to account for various permutations. Ahasuerus 21:15, 19 July 2017 (EDT)
Should a pub note be added stating the ISBN source is per Amazon? In this example, the data is per Barnes & Noble. However, searching that ISBN on their site returns no results. -- JLaTondre (talk) 20:53, 19 July 2017 (EDT)
That's a good point, but I am not sure how much I can do at submission creation time. It's easy enough to create a submission to add a missing field value to a pub record. However, editing an existing field (in this case the Note field) is tricky because the value may have changed since Fixer's database was created. If that happens, it may overwrite previously entered data. Ahasuerus 21:19, 19 July 2017 (EDT)
I don't mind having to edit the note. The cases where that will be "necessary" (term used loosely) I'd think would be few. I wonder how many are not Amazon-sourced Fixer submissions in the first place, with an Amazon credit already in the notes. Maybe you could search the notes string Fixer has for Amazon and word the note to the moderator differently? --MartyD 21:25, 20 July 2017 (EDT)
An excellent idea! Ahasuerus 22:56, 20 July 2017 (EDT)
A new version of the same submission has been created for your viewing pleasure. The old one has been rejected. Ahasuerus 18:50, 23 July 2017 (EDT)
I like it. Annie 16:43, 24 July 2017 (EDT)
OK, Fixer's first 10 EditPub submissions have been queued up. It looks like we have quite a few ISBN/ASIN duplicates, so a fair amount of judicious pruning will be required. Please remember to put Fixer's submissions on hold before you begin working on them in order to avoid collisions. Ahasuerus 20:08, 24 July 2017 (EDT)
The first batch has been processed. (Hurray!) Batch #2 is on its way. Ahasuerus 23:32, 24 July 2017 (EDT)
Batch #2 has been processed. Batch #3 has been submitted. Approximately 500 ISBNs remain outstanding. Ahasuerus 10:40, 25 July 2017 (EDT)
I didn't realize that there were batches (just saw a funny new kind of fixer submission). I've processed them. Roughly one half added ISBN to a sole ISBN-less publication, the other half tried to add an ISBN to a duplicate (ISBN-less) of a publication that was already existing with (in most of the cases) exactly the same characteristics. I've rejected the submissions and deleted the extra publications. Hauck 10:59, 25 July 2017 (EDT)
Thanks for reminding me about the duplicate ISBN issue! I have modified Fixer's logic not to create EditPub submissions for ISBN-less pubs whose Fixer-identified ISBNs are currently associated with other pubs. Fixer is aware of 190 "truly new" ISBNs, so we will add them first. Once that's out of the way, we can clean up the remaining 300 pubs. Ahasuerus 11:41, 25 July 2017 (EDT)
And there went the fun - rejecting and deleting duplicates was the funniest part of that exercise. :)
More seriously now... you will need to have Fixer redo those lists a few more times - I am assigning ASINs to the ASIN-less no-ISBN publications. I am doing as much cleanup as I can while I am on it but it is possible that some duplicate pairs may escape. Annie 13:31, 25 July 2017 (EDT)
Sounds good! Fixer's database is typically refreshed on Saturday morning as part of the weekly backup process. With luck, we will have the bulk of the currently outstanding ISBNs processed over the next 3-4 days. Once I refresh Fixer's database, I will rerun the process against the fresh data and see what he finds. Ahasuerus 13:40, 25 July 2017 (EDT)

(unindent) Batch #4 has been submitted. Ahasuerus 00:12, 26 July 2017 (EDT)

Batch #5, which includes the remaining "easy" ISBNs, has been submitted. Once the data has been processed, I will start submitting batches of duplicate ISBNs which will require additional massaging. Ahasuerus 12:04, 26 July 2017 (EDT)
Fixer has identified and submitted ISBNs for a few oddball publications which can't be easily categorized. Once they have been processed, I'll start submitting "known duplicate ISBNs", which will require additional cleanup. Fixer is currently aware of 295 of them. Ahasuerus 14:57, 26 July 2017 (EDT)
These are done. Now can we have the fun ones again? :) Annie 18:05, 26 July 2017 (EDT)
Certainly! As soon as I finish refreshing Fixer's database, I'll ask him to submit a bunch. Ahasuerus 18:42, 26 July 2017 (EDT)
Batch #7 has been submitted. Enjoy! Ahasuerus 19:15, 26 July 2017 (EDT)
Put one on hold (D Is for Dinosaur) that is an error. It is trying to add the tp ISBN to the ebook. I confirmed that via Amazon Look Inside which shows a different ISBN for the ebook. Don't know if this is an Amazon screw-up or a bug. -- JLaTondre (talk) 19:54, 26 July 2017 (EDT)
Voices & Edge of Sundown are more cases. Seems something is wrong with this last run? -- JLaTondre (talk) 19:59, 26 July 2017 (EDT)
So is Altar. And then there are cases like Coexist (which is totally messed up and I am still looking at it - and finally remembering to put hold on the ones I am working on.) I deleted a couple of dozen so far that were real duplicate publications but most of the ones that are not real duplicates are weird Annie 20:01, 26 July 2017 (EDT)
Glory and Splendour is similar, but in that one's case, Amazon Look Inside shows the same copyright page for the physical & ebook (including ISBN) so assuming that one is on Amazon's side. -- JLaTondre (talk) 20:08, 26 July 2017 (EDT)
Fixer's submissions are based on what Amazon returns via its API. Occasionally the API does weird things, e.g. when Fixer sends it an ASIN, it returns both the e-book ISBN and the tp ISBN. I have added a certain amount of bulletproofing over the years, but sometimes things slip through. If you see consistent patterns, please let em know and I will try to add more bulletproofing to Fixer.
Also, it occurs to me that Fixer is using the ISBNs that Amazon's API returned back when the data was first captured. I should probably get Fixer to re-query the API in case some ISBN have changed. I am not 100% sure that the new data will be better than the original data, but it seems likely. Ahasuerus 20:47, 26 July 2017 (EDT)
So should we opt on the side of caution and reject anything that looks weird? We won't lose any existing data this way and if that ISBN comes up again, we can deal with it then and there... Thoughts? Annie 20:53, 26 July 2017 (EDT)
I guess there are a few ways to approach this issue since there are fewer than 200 outstanding ISBNs left. For example, if the number of questionable records is reasonably low, then the reviewing moderators could reject them. I would then re-run the "rejects" against the Amazon API to see if the ISBN has changed. Ahasuerus 21:41, 26 July 2017 (EDT)
If we go that way, you will need to look for rejects that are still in the DB only - I am rejecting updates that try to update a duplicate as well (followed by deleting the one Fixer tried to update after moving whatever relevant information is missing (usually none but an artist name now and then). If that is the agreed upon process, I can go and reject my holds from yesterday. Between me and JLaTondre, we seem to be holding 9 from yesterday's batch - the rest were cleared. Annie 13:17, 27 July 2017 (EDT)
Sounds like a plan. I'll go ahead and submit the 200 "new" ISBNs that Fixer is currently aware of. Ahasuerus 15:06, 27 July 2017 (EDT)

(unindent) After updating Fixer's database with the latest backup file, I examined our history of rejected Fixer-generated EditPub submissions. I then resubmitted the affected ASINs to the Amazon API to make sure that the ISBNs were still valid. Everything checked out except for one publication record, now updated.

Many thanks to the moderators who have worked on these submissions. I can now start working on Phase 2 of the project, which will add ASINs to ISBN-13-enabled e-books. Ahasuerus 18:42, 29 July 2017 (EDT)

Publishers to merge, 2017-07-22

Please merge Kristell Ink into Kristell Ink / Grimbold Books (keeping the latter). Thanks --Vasha 19:26, 22 July 2017 (EDT)

Done. --Ron ~ RtraceTalk 22:00, 22 July 2017 (EDT)

Suspect Untitled Awards

What is this report supposed to list? I ask because the three items there right now are not untitled awards as far as I can tell. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 22:13, 24 July 2017 (EDT)

The three listed awards were flagged because:
  • they were not linked to titles
  • their award categories contain the word "story", which suggests that they should probably be associated with title records
The first listed award was given to "the trilogy as a whole". We don't have an omnibus edition of the trilogy, so there is nothing to link to. If an omnibus edition exists in the wild, we can enter it into the database and then link the award to it. If not, then it will have to remain an "untitled award".
The second and the third awards were given to stories which we don't have on file yet, but we know where they appeared. Once the pubs have been entered, we can link the award records. Ahasuerus 22:48, 24 July 2017 (EDT)
Is there a current feature request to allow awards to be given to a series? This has happened in quite a number of cases (not just Japanese awards), so this might be good to have on the list. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 23:03, 24 July 2017 (EDT)
There are feature requests to allow linking awards to author records (FR 583) and to publisher records (FR 269), but not to series records. I agree that series awards are becoming more common -- even the Hugos have been changed to support series awards -- so it's something to consider. It will take some work, but it's definitely doable. It's actually harder to add support for author- and publisher-based awards because we'll need to decide how to handle record auto-deletion (which we don't do for series at this time.) Ahasuerus 23:31, 24 July 2017 (EDT)

A few extra mod eyes, please

I think OCLC has the wrong cover for a submission. Details at User talk:Zapp#Cover of Leaving Fishers. Thanks! ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 16:28, 29 July 2017 (EDT)

Just Another Screw-Up

I just submitted an entry for the book La mascara by Dean R. Koontz and I listed ASIN: 454112 instead of Goodreads 454112. Bah! I’m an idiot. Anyway, I’ll change it if my submission is accepted. MLB 19:20, 9 August 2017 (EDT)

Approved and fixed for you. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 19:39, 9 August 2017 (EDT)

canonical name change: B. W. Clough

I think it is time to change B. W. Clough to Brenda W. Clough. Vasha 13:27, 10 August 2017 (EDT)

Sounds good. Ahasuerus 13:59, 10 August 2017 (EDT)

Making head or tail of Headline

Hello. Regarding this submission and the last three entries of this exchange, I am not sure what to do with this "Headline (Aus)" publisher, as part of the Hachette group. Would anyone know how to deal with it ? TIA, Linguist 04:36, 11 August 2017 (EDT).

Where do they get "Headline (Aus)" from? The Look Inside on AMazon doesn't show anything about "Headline", with or without "(Aus)". If anything, based on Look Inside, it should be Berkley or Penguin. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 14:07, 11 August 2017 (EDT)
Looking at the Australian Look Inside, it shows "Headline" or "Headline Publishing Group". No "(Aus)". ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 14:09, 11 August 2017 (EDT)
We may want to check with User:Clarkmci or User:Chris J, our resident Down Under experts. Ahasuerus 18:35, 11 August 2017 (EDT)
Thanks for your answers. I'll ping them and see how it goes. Linguist 04:38, 12 August 2017 (EDT).
All I can find is Hodder Headline Australia and Hachette Australia.--Chris J 16:47, 12 August 2017 (EDT)
Thanks a lot. I'll see with MLB if this tallies on not. Linguist 11:04, 13 August 2017 (EDT).

Publisher name to correct 2017-08-12

Gray Whisper Graphics Productions should be GrayWhisper Graphics Productions --Vasha 22:28, 11 August 2017 (EDT)

Done, and added their website. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 00:50, 12 August 2017 (EDT)

Editor vs. series editor

Does a series editor get credited as the editor for a title, or is it just the editor? I ask because of this submission. I couldn't find anything about this in help or elsewhere in the wiki. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 02:02, 12 August 2017 (EDT)

And apparently this submission, too. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 02:03, 12 August 2017 (EDT)
IIRC, I've already refused quite exactly the same submission (a different contributor that made a tantrum). I've replied that we credit only the book's editor and not the series' and cited some PVed publications in this series. Hauck 04:56, 12 August 2017 (EDT)
This talk page sums it all: a "JJ", who claimed not to be John Joseph Adams tried to make the same updates that are now submitted by a "Johnjosephadams"; "a massively award-winning SF editor and magazine publisher whom I am sure has absolutely no time to spend faffing around on the ISFDB" my ass. Hauck 05:06, 12 August 2017 (EDT)
This issue was discussed a while back in the context of magazine editors. Magazines frequently list multiple "editorial" positions like "contributing editor", "editor-at-large", "editor in chief", "editor emeritus", "roving editor", "managing editor", etc. We only enter the person/people who had overall responsibilities for the publication. Everyone else can be optionally recorded in notes. Ahasuerus 14:44, 12 August 2017 (EDT)

Philip Dick's 'The Unteleported Man': proposed edits

There are two Philip Dick works titled 'The Unteleported Man': the 1964 novella and the expanded novel version which has 3 variants which were first published in 1983 as 'The Unteleported Man', 1984 as 'Lies, Inc', and 2004 as 'Lies, Inc'. Right now, all instances starting with the Ace Double publication of the novella are lumped together under a single title record as a 1966 novel. I'd like to sort that out by moving all of the novella publications from 1966 through 1979 to the novella title record, then changing the date of the novel title record to 1983. Comments? Objections? Alternate ideas? Thanks Markwood 20:35, 13 August 2017 (EDT)

Canonical name change: Glynn Barrass

Glynn Barrass actually uses the name Glynn Owen Barrass considerably more often. --Vasha 08:26, 14 August 2017 (EDT)

New ISBNs - 2017-08-15

Fixer has identified and submitted approximately 70 new ISBNs for ASIN-only books which have been entered since the last run some weeks ago. I have further tweaked Fixer's logic to:

  • auto-reject ISBNs for pre-1968 books
  • use ISBN-10s for pre-2005 books

If you find any other issues with Fixer's logic, please let me know.

Once these ISBNs have been processed, Fixer will submit another ISBN batch for ASIN-only books whose Amazon-provided ISBN is already on file for another pub. Like the last iteration, they will need additional TLC and merging/deletion. Ahasuerus 15:46, 15 August 2017 (EDT)

Duplicate ISBNs have been submitted. Please treat them gently. Ahasuerus 01:35, 18 August 2017 (EDT)
After founding by this way and deleting some duplicates (the same book, one with and one without ISBN) perhaps a direct SQL search on publications with the same title, an "e-book" format and the same publication date will find some more. Hauck 03:16, 18 August 2017 (EDT)
That's a very good point. A little digging suggests that we have at least 269 titles with possible duplicate e-pubs. I'll see if I can create a cleanup report. Ahasuerus 15:16, 18 August 2017 (EDT)

Publisher name to correct 2017-08-15

Egmont Books Ltd should be Egmont Books. --Vasha 10:02, 16 August 2017 (EDT)

Done. Hauck 11:22, 16 August 2017 (EDT)

Removing Inc. (etc.) from publisher names

As I understand it it's policy (official or unofficial?) not to include Inc./LLC/Ltd. and so forth in publisher names. Right now there are 121 with LLC, 200-odd with Inc., 217 with Ltd or Pty Ltd. If I agreed to check all those to make sure the suffix is really unnecessary, would you want to edit them all? --Vasha 13:48, 16 August 2017 (EDT)

Where did you see this policy? Our help even has an example that shows how Inc stays and gets regularized when present :) . I am against changing the name of a publisher to remove such elements when they are always presented in publications - the closer we are to what the book actually says, the better we are. Annie 16:06, 16 August 2017 (EDT)
I've had it mentioned to me multiple times over the years, and I've had moderators remove it from new publishers I've submitted. Whichever way we decide to go, we should make it consistent (if possible) and clearly spell it out in the policies. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 16:40, 16 August 2017 (EDT)
Due to irreconcilable positions on the whole subject of publisher's name regularization (of which this precise point is only a small part), I've stopped caring about it. Just for the record (again), my opinion is that publishers should be regularized (if only for casual browsers) and that changes of capitalistic nature to their structure (e.g. from an incorporated individual to a limited liability company) are not that bibliographically important. Hauck 01:30, 17 August 2017 (EDT)
I agree that regularization is a good thing. It certainly makes looking them up easier. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 19:56, 21 August 2017 (EDT)

(unindent) I will take this as a qualified "yes," then: remove them but be cautious about it. In that case, I will start by recommending removing all of the LLCs. I have checked those to make sure that they are not needed for disambiguation purposes.

Also, concerning IFWG Publishing Incorporated, they don't currently use the "Incorporated" on their website nor on the title pages of books. The two books from 2010 where Amazon gives the publisher as "IFWG Publishing Incorporated" don't allow preview of the title page. Two from 2011 use "IFWG Publishing, Inc." on the title page and another one uses "IFWG Publishing." After that they don't use "Inc." So I think IFWG Publishing Incorporated should just be merged with IFWG Publishing. --Vasha 11:01, 22 August 2017 (EDT)

I would not call this definitive based on the above. Until the help page reads what it does now, I would not remove them unless if I can confirm that they are not always there. Just my 2 cents. Annie 11:42, 22 August 2017 (EDT)
OK then, skip the LLCs, it's no big deal. But I stand by what I said about IFWG. --Vasha 11:47, 22 August 2017 (EDT)
I do not disagree about that one at all :) As you were the only PV in one of the books (and not PV elsewhere), I went ahead and merged them. Annie 12:47, 22 August 2017 (EDT)

Author name to correct, 2017-08-18

Jo Nesbo should be Jo Nesbø (English-language publishers do, in fact, use that spelling) --Vasha 18:09, 20 August 2017 (EDT)

Are there any that do not? ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 18:42, 20 August 2017 (EDT)
Well, I looked at all the editions we have... If there were any, I'd make a note on it. --Vasha 19:03, 20 August 2017 (EDT)
Okay, I've updated the author name based on that. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 19:58, 21 August 2017 (EDT)

The same goes for Alf Proysen: all the English editions we have print his name "Alf Prøysen." --Vasha 19:03, 20 August 2017 (EDT)

I've also updated the entry for this author. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 19:58, 21 August 2017 (EDT)

Fixer's Armchair Fiction submissions

Fixer has submitted about a dozen Armchair Fiction pubs. Please note that this publisher uses at least 8 publication series, which is not reflected in Amazon records, so additional fine-tuning may be needed. Ahasuerus 20:35, 20 August 2017 (EDT)

Fixer's Tor submissions

Fixer has submitted a couple dozen older AddPubs for Macmillan-owned imprints, including Tor. Normally, the Amazon API sends the original list price to Fixer, but something appears to be wrong in this case. Prices are way too high across the board and some ISBNs are not listed by OCLC. Please exercise caution. Ahasuerus 17:42, 24 August 2017 (EDT)

user Doshin

Hello, it seems nobody welcomed this user, his talk page is empty [3]. Henna 12:58, 25 August 2017 (EDT)

Done. You're always welcome to welcome new users with {{welcome}} ~~~~. :) ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 14:18, 25 August 2017 (EDT)
Hallo Nihonjoe, next time, maybe. Thanks Henna 14:28, 25 August 2017 (EDT)

Canonical name change: Jaspre Bark

Jaspre Bark should be changed to Jasper Bark at this point. --Vasha 14:08, 25 August 2017 (EDT)

Done. --Vasha 10:54, 26 August 2017 (EDT)

publishers to merge, 2017-08-27

Legume Man Books and LegumeMan Books should be merged as the latter. --Vasha 00:45, 27 August 2017 (EDT)

Done. -- JLaTondre (talk) 08:06, 27 August 2017 (EDT)

Canonical name change: E. Saxey

Esther Saxey should now be E. Saxey. --Vasha 16:40, 2 September 2017 (EDT)

Sorry, but there wasn't a positive comment (also, no negative one). I don't see the meaning in making the stub version of a name into the canonical one unless there's a overwhelming majority of titles listed for the former. Similarly, I'd also prefer the legal name above any pseudonym in likewise conditions. Christian Stonecreek 09:07, 5 September 2017 (EDT)
In this case, there isn't an overwhelming majority, but there is a majority, and the author is still publishing under the new name; and there's the additional consideration of courtesy to the author by using the name that fits with their gender. Together those two reasons are absolutely compelling. --Vasha 09:46, 5 September 2017 (EDT)
Okay, it seems that no one besides Stonecreek cares about this, and that's not a consensus against changing things. So, being as this is important as politeness to the author, I am going to make the change. If anyone wants to argue against, speak now or forever hold your peace. --Vasha 20:12, 6 September 2017 (EDT)

Pulbisher name correction

The Ed Greenwood Group Inc. should be "The Ed Greenwood Group" as that is how they refer to themselves. --Vasha 19:33, 2 September 2017 (EDT)

Done. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 19:39, 2 September 2017 (EDT)

Thomas Berger

Hello, I need a Thomas Berger born in 1965 in Munich :) Thanks Henna 15:01, 10 September 2017 (EDT)

I have disambiguated the authors. -- JLaTondre (talk) 16:56, 10 September 2017 (EDT)
Thank you very much Henna 17:45, 10 September 2017 (EDT)

Assignment of ISBNs to pubs without ISBNs - 2017-09-11

Fixer has submitted approximately 70 ISBNs for ISBN-less pubs. 7 of them are duplicates and will require additional TLC.

P.S. I have been dealing with a nasty flu lately and it has affected Fixer as well as the development schedule. I think I am doing better now, but it will take some time to catch up. Ahasuerus 19:23, 11 September 2017 (EDT)

Import Content Problems

I recently tried to import 30 short stories from magazines into an anthology. I got an error message that one or more of the items did not exist (tough error message because the error or errors are not identified; it might be better to import the "correct" items and leave off the errors). But when I checked each individual entry number, all were correct. However, when I plugged several of the numbers in, they did say that the story didn't exist. Double checking showed that the numbers were correct, however. I gave up and I'm importing only ten stories at a time. But I hope the software glitch can be fixed. Bob 09:49, 12 September 2017 (EDT)

Could you please post the ID of the anthology and the IDs of the titles that you were trying to import? Ahasuerus 11:16, 12 September 2017 (EDT)
Sure. The anthology is The Best of Subterranean and all of the stories are from Subterranean magazine. The stories are 561421,1500098,1764608,1004049,1005963,1011491,1119663,1120055,1120226,1353304,345231,1296991,1353300,1385177,1366131,1323519,1429268,1120425,1572668,1572669,1764598,1120218,1764615,1296971,1687565,1296970. There are two other stories in the anthology that have titles slightly different from the original stories; those had to be entered separately and varianted. The stories have now been entered, so you can just look at that pub. Bob 19:58, 12 September 2017 (EDT)
Thanks! There is an older version of the database on the development server. It's a copy of the main database as of 3 days ago, so it had the publication record but no Contents items as of 10 minutes ago. I tried entering the titles that you listed, both separately and as a comma-delimited string, and was successful in all cases.
I suspect that the problem is that something gets added to the copy-and-paste buffer when you copy the record number. Depending on the operating system (Windows, Mac, etc) and on the browser, it may be one of any number of invisible (so-called "control") characters. These kinds of problems are tough to debug because the details vary by OS/browser and because invisible characters are... well, invisible :-)
The next time you run into this issue, could you please try to enter the title number(s) manually, without copying and pasting? If it resolves the problem, then we'll be reasonably sure that the issue is on the browser side. Ahasuerus 20:43, 12 September 2017 (EDT)
Most interesting, thank you for your trouble! I'll try that next time. Bob 00:13, 13 September 2017 (EDT)

Stupidity knows no limits

I just entered the September-October 2017 issue of Ellery Queen's Mystery Magazine, because of several included stories, but, like a cretin, I forgot to put the date of the magazine on the entry. Aaaaaaaarrrrrggggghhhhh! If accepted, I'll go back and put the date in. MLB 20:47, 12 September 2017 (EDT)

exodus 14

Hello, I uploaded a wrong cover. Please delete the old one. Thanks Henna 14:35, 18 September 2017 (EDT)

Done Annie 14:59, 18 September 2017 (EDT)
Thanks Henna 15:55, 18 September 2017 (EDT)

Authors to merge: Jessica Barber with Jess Barber

Could somebody please merge the author record for Jessica Barber with the author record for Jess Barber? These are both me, but I use "Jess Barber" exclusively now. Thank you! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by JessBarber (talkcontribs) . on 11:40, 19 September 2017 (EDT)

Done. The changes should show up by this evening. --Vasha 12:17, 19 September 2017 (EDT)
Thank you! JessBarber 16:29, 19 September 2017 (EDT)
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