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| − | Could you check your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?35342 The Arsenal Out of Time]? I think I have the same edition, but on the backcover of my copy Kelly Freas is credited for the cover art. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem H.]] 12:19, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
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| − | :I'll have to check on the weekend, book is in storage boxes.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 00:19, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
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| − | ::Mine's the same.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 21:17, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
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| − | The artist for [[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?23865 this]] is Kelly Freas. Confirmed by email with Freas' agent who has the preliminary sketches but had no idea what book the artwork was used for. He's a happy camper! Cheers! --[[User:Bluesman|~ Bill, Bluesman]] 04:22, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
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| − | :Thanks![[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 23:00, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
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| − | == ''The Cingulum'' ==
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| − | Can you check the cover art credit as stated in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?37129 this publication]? I have a suspicion that "Norma" and "Segrelles" are two different credits: one for his art agent and one for him (he's often credited as his last name only.) Thanks for checking. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 21:14, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
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| − | :I'll have to dig this one out of the storage boxes later today.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 16:21, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
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| − | ::"The Cingulum" credited as "Cover art by Norma Segrelles"[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 21:19, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
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| − | The same situation with [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?10803 this publication]. These are the only two credits for "Norma Segrelles" in the database. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 21:15, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
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| − | :On "Downtiming..." it's credited as "Cover art by Norma Segrelles"[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 16:16, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
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| − | == Diving Into the Wreck ==
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| − | Does [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?293153 this 2009 publication] have an ISBN-13 anywhere on it? Thanks for checking. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 02:48, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
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| − | :It does and I've fixed it. Thanks![[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 03:00, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
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| − | == Men Against the Stars ==
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| − | Hello, is it possible that [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?21892 your verified pub] is the same as [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?329954 this quite similar one] ?. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 14:27, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
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| − | :Based on past experience mine will probably be a Canadian printing and sometimes they have a different number, but I'll check and update the listing. Thanks![[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 04:06, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
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| − | ::Here's an example[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisheryear.cgi?20393+1956][[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 04:09, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
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| − | :::Yes, I was thinking along such lines but was surprised by the similar price. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 07:52, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
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| − | == ''Land of the Dead'' ==
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| − | I've added the uncredited poem '"From the Annals of Cuauhtitlan" that appears on page 11 to our [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?282452 verified pub]. It also appears in the earlier volumes in the series. [[User:PeteYoung|PeteYoung]] 23:21, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
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| − | :Thanks![[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 00:47, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
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| − | == The Destiny Dice ==
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| − | [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?38321 This] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?193065 this publication] look identical to me. The title of the book based on my copy is "The Destiny Dice" by David Bischoff. Should these two be merged together? [[User:Taweiss|TAWeiss]] 00:27, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
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| − | :I'll have to pull this one from storage and check the title page.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 01:27, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
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| − | == The Forgotten Planet ==
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| − | Hi, I want to add {{P|40102|The Forgotten Planet}} to the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pubseries.cgi?145 Masters of Science Fiction] series, would you agree?--[[User:Dirk P Broer|Dirk P Broer]] 18:46, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
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| − | :Sounds fine. Thanks![[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 23:42, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
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| − | == Sword of Lankor ==
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| − | Found a signature on the cover of [[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?48240 this]], just beside the front figure's shoulder. Added the artist credit. Cheers! --[[User:Bluesman|~ Bill, Bluesman]] 17:30, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
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| − | :Another mystery solved. Thanks![[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 02:08, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
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| − | == Destiny Dice ==
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| − | Can you look at these entries?: [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?193065 Destiny Dice] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?38321 The Destiny Dice]. They appear to be the same item but with slightly different titles. The correct title is "The Destiny Dice" and I've uploaded a cover scan to that entry. In addition, the cover artist is credited as "Kraft" on one entry and "Craft" in the other. The correct attribution is "Kinuko Craft" according to the copyright page. I think a merge might be in order.[[User:SFJuggler|SFJuggler]] 21:26, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
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| − | :Book is in storage will look on weekend.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 00:30, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
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| − | :Fixed the title but the variant of "Hall" is incorrect.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 04:19, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
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| − | ::[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?38321 This] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?193065 this publication] look identical to me. Shouldn't they be merged?
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| − | :::Deleted the duplicate pub.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 03:23, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
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| − | == If the Stars Are Gods ==
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| − | Can you take a look at your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?17775 If the Stars Are Gods]? My copy states that the Sterbach art is on page 94 and it actually is. The cover art is credited on the copyright page. Mine also came with an errata slip indicating that chapters from the previous version of the novel were accidentally reprinted and that the reader should skip from page 21 to 41.[[User:SFJuggler|SFJuggler]] 05:57, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
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| − | :Book is in storage will look on weekend.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 00:31, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
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| − | :still looking, was not in storage box must be on shelf.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 04:31, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
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| − | ::Mine's the same as yours but without the errata slip, so the current info was added after I verified my copy and the 2nd verifier Bill recently passed away. Ill create a new record and move my verification and add a note about the errata slip in some books. Hows that sound?[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 02:03, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
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| − | == The One-Eyed Man ==
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| − | Replaced the amazon image for [[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?423882 this]], also added the Afterword and the short story. The latter presents the obvious: this is [technically] an omnibus. Also, I'm sure some enterprising editor will present the [novel ;-))] idea that the subtitle be included in the title record [I like them just fine in the notes, though this one is at least interesting ....]. Your call as first PV. Cheers! --[[User:Bluesman|~ Bill, Bluesman]] 05:10, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
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| − | == ''The Ethos Effect'' ==
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| − | Please confirm that an ISBN-13 is present in [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?168081 this 2004 publication]. The ISBN-13 wasn't implemented into 2005, but I suppose it's possible that a publisher may have jumped the gun. Make sure it's not the 13 digit EAN printed above the barcode which was the forerunner of the ISBN but isn't ''exactly'' the same thing. Thanks for looking. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 17:43, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
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| − | :Will check. Thanks![[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 02:47, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
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| − | == Help question on Canadian printings ==
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| − | I posted a query on the [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Help_desk Help Desk] about an apparent Canadian edition. My impression is that you're our resident expert on such issues, so if you have a moment, I'm hoping you'll look at the question. [[User:Chavey|Chavey]] 04:29, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
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| − | == Edward Valigursky ==
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| − | Please see [[ISFDB:Community Portal#Ed(ward) Valigursky|this discussion]] regarding covers by Edward Valigursky. Thanks. --Ron ~ [[User:Rtrace|Rtrace]]<sup>[[User talk:Rtrace|Talk]]</sup> 01:52, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
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| − | == Extremis ==
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| − | Hi. You've verified the hard cover edition of the book [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?343213 Extremis]. I have a copy of the paperback edition. The artwork appears to be identical, but your copy credits Kurt Miller, while my copy credits David Seeley. Someone placed a note in the paperback notes, perhaps when the record was created, which indicated that the credit to David Seeley was not correct, but didn't give a source. I was trying to resolve this, and it was suggested that I contact you to begin with, and ask you to check your copy for the artist. I guess it's possible that it was wrong in the paperback edition, but on the other hand, since it's a later edition, it might reflect a correction, or maybe the artist is using a pseudonym. Thanks, Jack [[User:Sjmathis|Sjmathis]] 18:26, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
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| − | :The cover artist is Seeley but the dust cover credits Miller for illustrations. Have a look at the note I added. Thanks![[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 00:59, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
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| − | ::Thanks very much. Jack [[User:Sjmathis|Sjmathis]] 12:26, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
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| − | == Joel Shepherd's 23 Years on Fire ==
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| − | :- change the page count to 435 - this being the highest printed page number on my copy.
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| − | :- add Stephan Martiniere as the cover artist (from back cover).
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| − | :- add $18.00 as the price in Canada (in the Notes).
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| − | :- change the publication date to just 2013-09-00 because Amazon now states 10th September (not 3rd) & the publisher's website [http://www.pyrsf.com/23YearsOnFire.html here] isn't more specific than September.
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| − | - replace "Data from Amazon.com as of 2013-07-18." with "Month from Amazon US."
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| − | Please advise if these changes are OK by you. --[[User:Clarkmci|clarkmci / j_clark]] 22:50, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
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| − | :That's fine. Thanks![[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 02:21, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
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| − | ::Done. --[[User:Clarkmci|clarkmci / j_clark]] 06:42, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
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| − | == Alan Dean Foster's ''The Dig'' ==
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| − | Long ago, you verified a copy of Alan Dean Foster's [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?38453 ''The Dig'' ]. The image is an Amazon scan. I have a copy of the same publication, except the cover has printed a sticker-like seal stating "SPECIAL OFFER ON The Dig (tm) CD-ROM Game! See Last Page". And on what would be page 312 is a full page offer (after a blank page 311). If your copy matches the existing cover without the offer, I'll create a new entry, otherwise I'll upload my image to this pub. Thanks. [[User:Holmesd|Doug]] 16:45, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
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| − | :Sorry I missed this post. I'll be away till Sept 30, will check boxes when I get back.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 03:47, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
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| − | ::The other verifier (PortForlorn) confirmed his copy had the special offer, so I have updated the image from the Amazon image to my scan. [[User:Holmesd|Doug]] 16:35, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
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| − | == Foundation and Earth / The Story Behind the Foundation ==
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| − | There are two title records for the essay "The Story Behind the Foundation": {{T|1716056|This one}} that appears in a pub record that you verified, and {{T|1676583|this one}} that appears in a pub record verified by [[User:SFJuggler|SFJuggler]]. I believe the two title records refer to the same essay and should be merged. Would this be OK with you? I have invited SFJuggler to join this discussion. Thanks, Patrick -- [[User:Herzbube|Herzbube]] <sup>[[User talk:Herzbube|Talk]]</sup> 00:10, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
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| − | :That should be fine. Thanks![[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 00:52, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
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| − | == L.E. Modesitt, Jr.'s ''The Eternity Artifact'' ==
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| − | Can you verify the Canadian price for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?83823 this pub] of L.E. Modesitt, Jr.'s ''The Eternity Artifact''? The entry claims a Canadian price of $9.99, but my copy has $10.99, visible on the spine and inside front cover. I will also be checking with other two primary verifiers. Thanks. [[User:Holmesd|Doug]] 16:20, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
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| − | : Verified and updated by [[User:Hauck|Hauck]]. [[User:Holmesd|Doug]] 16:43, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
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| − | The title records of CHAPTERBOOKS should not be entered into a series. The SHORTFICTION content should be. I've moved the series data of ''Deadly Night: Jenni and Katie's Untold Tale'' from the CHAPTERBOOK to the SHORTFICTION. Thanks. [[User:Mhhutchins|Mhhutchins]] 07:34, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
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| − | :Thought that's what I had done? Must have done the reverse.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 03:32, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
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| − | Hi, I found your cover artist, it is Dean Ellis, look at this title {{P|1813542|Wenn die Sterne verlöschen}} for the same picture in mirror-image, where Dean Ellis is credited.--[[User:Dirk P Broer|Dirk P Broer]] 10:32, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
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| − | Hi I found the cover artist for your verified copy of {{P|194145|The Rithian Terror}}. It is [http://chrisachilleos.co.uk/book-covers/science-fiction.html#!time_mercenaries_1972 Chris Achilléos]. No vague website here!.--[[User:Dirk P Broer|Dirk P Broer]] 20:00, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
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| − | :OK! Thanks![[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 04:29, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
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| − | ::I don't think Dirk is gonna change anything. I added the artist and a note. --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 09:32, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
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| − | :::I figured he would submit change and never checked. Thanks![[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 23:49, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
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| − | Hi. In [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?3044 your verified pub], does it have a foreword on p.7 by Robert A. W. Lowndes? If so, shouldn't that be entered as a separate content and the page number for the start of the novel be pushed to p.9? Thanks, Doug / [[User:Vornoff|Vornoff]] 21:57, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
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| − | ::It's there please submit update. Thanks![[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 01:00, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
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| − | :::New content submitted. Also added some notes. Thanks, Doug / [[User:Vornoff|Vornoff]] 03:33, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
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| − | Can you look at your copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?40368 The Garbage Chronicles]? My copy has a subtitle, "Being an Account of the Adventures of Tom Javik and Wizzy Malloy in the Faraway Land of Catapulted Garbage" on the title page.[[User:SFJuggler|SFJuggler]] 05:26, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
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| − | :I don't see why mine would be different.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 02:31, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
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| − | My Del Rey/Ballantine hc of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?9141 Darwin's Radio] has the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1091486 Afterword] on p. 419, [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1675914 A Short Biological Primer] on p.421 and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1675915 Short Glossary of Scientific Terms] on p.423. Also the cover image is by David Gifford, not Heather Kern who is credited as the designer. Contacting you as PV1 before I make the changes? [[User:PeteYoung|PeteYoung]] 21:59, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
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| − | :OK. Thanks![[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 02:42, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
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| − | == Chalker Nathan Brazil ==
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| − | You PV'd [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?274058 this book]. My copy also "First published...1986" number line ending 2 definitely has "Cover illustration by Peter Goodfellow" on rear cover. My copy has a white advert block on rear at top for all four volumes. Credit is in this box. Could you check please ? Thanks. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:25, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
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| − | :Will look.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 02:41, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
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| − | Cover art for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?30543 this book] is by Robert Stanley, credit from [http://www.munchkinpress.com/cpg149/displayimage.php?album=20&pos=124 here]. Record amended accordingly. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 05:45, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
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| − | [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?202037 This cover] is credited to Ed Valigursky. The [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?427539 same cover] is part of the artists [http://www.rs-lonati.de/ga/index.php/Mark-Powers-Der-Held-des-Weltalls website R. S. Lonati], cover #26. --[[User:Zapp|Zapp]] 18:25, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
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| − | :They have very similar styles and have unaccredited work. I would suggest dropping Ed as the cover artist and adding a note and the link to Lonati.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 02:50, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
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| − | Please see [[ISFDB:Community Portal#The Mutant Weapon vs. Med_Service]] as a primary verifier of {{P|45325|The Mutant Weapon / The Pirates of Zan}}. Thanks. -- [[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 23:45, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
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| − | When you get a chance, could you please review [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#Followup_to_Translations_not_shown_on_author_page_when_not_logged_in this discussion]? The proposal basically boils down to changing the behavior of the Summary Bibliography when the viewing user is not logged in. Currently only English translations are displayed for unauthenticated users. The proposal would change it to displaying ''all'' translations. The downside is that the Summary page could get longer and harder to navigate.
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| − | Letting you know I've merged the three "Author's Notes" that appeared in each separate publication of this Jack L. Chalker trilogy (in which we both have one or more verified publications) as they are all the same essay. I've given them the universal title [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?660525 Author's Note (The Quintara Marathon)] and merged. A note has been added to this title regarding one very minor text difference, but they are essentially the same essay. Thanks. [[User:PeteYoung|PeteYoung]] 14:45, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
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| − | There are seven substantial pieces of interior art in your verified [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?26549 Prayers to Broken Stones] that illustrate individual stories, and for which we have no records. If it's OK with you as PV1 I'd like to add them (PV2 also notified). [[User:PeteYoung|PeteYoung]] 19:41, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
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| − | :That would be fine with me. Thanks![[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 02:22, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
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| − | ::Done. I've had to add a note to the effect that the interior art appears on unnumbered pages that are not part of the book's pagination (which by using the bar method makes the contents listing look a little odd). Also, that the artist's signature is visible on the front cover. [[User:PeteYoung|PeteYoung]] 19:11, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
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| − | :It's Tom Kidd will fix. Thanks![[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 22:23, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
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| − | There are 2 records for the 1st printing of Ballantine #46 'More Than Human'. I believe the one you (and Don Erikson) verified, http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?204081, should be deleted, but first wanted to check with you to see if there's a reason to keep both of the records. The one you verified credits publisher "Ballantine Books". The other record, http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?22862, credits "Farrar, Straus and Young with Ballantine Books" as shown on the title page (and front cover.) Is there a reason to keep record #204081 which does not credit Farrar Straus & Young? Thanks. (And, FYI, I'm checking with Don Erikson, also.) [[User:Markwood|Markwood]] 05:24, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
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| − | :Let me dig out my copy before anything is deleted.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 04:35, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
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| − | ::Ok, I agree delete the record.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 01:34, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
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| − | ::Will do. Thanks, Doug / [[User:Vornoff|Vornoff]] 00:22, 4 January 2016 (UTC) Submitted, except I see now that it looks like "unknown" is standard practice for use if author is a made-up name like "Alexander Blade" which has been used by many authors and the actual author is not known. I left it alone. Thanks, Doug / [[User:Vornoff|Vornoff]] 01:20, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
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| − | ::: Done. Thank you! [[User:BungalowBarbara|BungalowBarbara]] 05:34, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
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| − | ::Sorry I've been away for a few days. Let me check my copies and get back in a couple of days. Del Rey was producing US and CDN printings at this time with different prices to reflect the currency. The current images appear to be wrong and I'd like to figure out what is on the publishers page and on the back. Thank![[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 03:46, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
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| − | Hi, I've imported content for your verified copy of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?38945 The Dying Earth].--[[User:Dirk P Broer|Dirk P Broer]] 01:02, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
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| − | :Sorry I sold my pulps a few years ago and should have removed the verifications.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 03:35, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
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| − | Are there any of those stories you think ARE genre? [[User:Vasha77|Vasha]] 15:17, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
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| − | ADDENDUM: Discussion moved to the [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#Nongenre_stories:_attempt_at_a_roundup Community Portal]. --[[User:Vasha77|Vasha]] 00:50, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
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| − | This is about your PV of {{p|25644|Particle Theory}}. The last story is credited as "Afterword: To See" on 245, at the tops of the odd numbered pages in the story, and in the Contents. The publication had been verified as containing "To See". I went ahead with adding the VT.
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| − | * Added "Another <i>Original</i> publication of TIMESCAPE BOOKS" (on copyright page)
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| − | * Moved "OCLC <A href="http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/8131798">8131798</a>" to the external link thing.
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| − | --[[User:Marc Kupper|Marc Kupper]]|[[User talk:Marc Kupper|talk]] 17:40, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
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| − | :ASFAIC, I tend to skip the "Introduction", "Prologue", "Afterwords" etc... parts of titles as it (IMHO) makes for an "heavy" presentation. In this specific case, I found the varianting a bit of an overkill. [[User:Hauck|Hauck]] 17:54, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
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| − | ::Changes are all correct. Thank, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 19:07, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
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| − | ::: @Hauck, if you chose to not record a title as stated then there should be a pub-note documenting the stated title. Please see [[Template:TitleFields:Title]]. --[[User:Marc Kupper|Marc Kupper]]|[[User talk:Marc Kupper|talk]] 05:56, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
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| − | This is for {{p|197293|Sundiver}}
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| − | * I changed the pub-note "Cover artist is uncredited and signature not visible on cover." to:<br>The cover art is credited as "Cover art © 1980 by Bantam Books, Inc." Signature not visible on cover.
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| − | I'm not sure why there are separate records for the interior drawings as I suspect all Bantam printings have both drawings on adjacent pages. We don't list the page numbers for any of them other than being in the bp section of the publications. Our records for later printings (with the new cover) only have one of the drawings in their contents. I've left a notes with a couple of verifiers as I suspect those printing have both drawings. If that's the case I'd like to propose deleting the {{p|956305|Sundiver [2]}} interior artwork title record and to have the record for {{p|956305|Sundiver}} interior artwork be for both drawings. Another option is to change the titles to "The Sunship - Side View" and "The Sunship - Top View". --[[User:Marc Kupper|Marc Kupper]]|[[User talk:Marc Kupper|talk]] 07:55, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
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| − | Please see [[User_talk:Bluesman#βehemoth]]. --[[User:Marc Kupper|Marc Kupper]]|[[User talk:Marc Kupper|talk]] 02:52, 28 June 2017 (EDT)
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| − | Hi, I've imported content for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?200801 2nd Foundation: Galactic Empire].--[[User:Dirk P Broer|Dirk P Broer]] 18:05, 24 September 2017 (EDT)
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| − | When you're around, can you take a peak at [[http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Willem_H.#Kothar_and_the_Wizard_Slayer this]]? Thanks! --[[User:Bluesman|~ Bill, Bluesman]] 17:12, 7 October 2017 (EDT)
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| − | {{P|35990|The Birth of Flux & Anchor}}: The publication date in this record is “1985-12-00” which matches the copyright page in my copy “First printing: December 1985”. However the Notes say “First Printing: October 1986”. Is this a mistype or are there 2 First Editions? --[[User:AndyjMo|AndyjMo]] 09:14, 27 October 2017 (EDT)
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| − | {{P|12047|Elephant Song}}; the current Notes say that there is no artist signature on the artwork. On my copy there is the top half of a signature <b><i>John Rush</i></b> at the bottom right of the cover. Is it there on yours? --[[User:AndyjMo|AndyjMo]] 07:30, 6 January 2018 (EST)
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| − | == The Strange Case of Mr. Pelham ==
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| − | Hi. At 15:46 you were too quick for me, or I was too slow or sloppy for you, as I worked on the 1st UK ed. of this novel P{{p|408468}}. Commonly I submit a record, notice from the display that I should improve it immediately, and do so without deleting the former from the queue until the improvement is there. Sorry about that. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 16:46, 4 March 2018 (EST)
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| − | I am adding ERB's essay on Jetan or Martian Chess to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?223625 this] publication. ../[[User:Holmesd|Doug H]] 16:27, 9 April 2018 (EDT)
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| − | I have added Lupoff's foreword to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?4369 this] pub and changed the page number for Wollheim's foreword to page 2. ../[[User:Holmesd|Doug H]] 10:31, 10 April 2018 (EDT)
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| − | I've added Wollheim's Foreword to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?43333 this] publication. ../[[User:Holmesd|Doug H]] 15:44, 10 April 2018 (EDT)
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| − | Hi. I have several submissions on hold that propose to change "Orbit" and some other Orbit variation publisher credits to "Orbit (US)" based on ISBN and price. Some of them affect your verified publications. Would you have a look and let me know what you think? I'm posting inquiries to the other active verifiers, too. Thanks. --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] 08:44, 30 June 2018 (EDT)
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| − | :I ended up accepting the proposed change. Please review. --[[User:MartyD|MartyD]] 19:21, 9 July 2018 (EDT)
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| − | [[User:Nitramyeldud|Nitramyeldud]] found the cover artist for {{P|52968|Ursus of Ultima Thule}} based on a [http://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryPiece.asp?Piece=1435988 listing] for the original artwork. As a new user, the submission wasn't quite right so I re-did it with the proper publication note & canonical artist name. Thanks. -- [[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 17:32, 8 July 2018 (EDT)
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| − | User Horzel found the cover artist of your verified [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?209669 Zardoz]. I added the credit and a note about the source. Thanks, --[[User:Willem H.|Willem]] 14:49, 29 July 2018 (EDT)
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| − | Re: [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?22781 this book] - I have been messaged on Twitter by Diane Duane the creator of the map, thus I have made changes. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 12:24, 18 June 2019 (EDT)
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| − | I've submitted cover artist Vicente Segrelles to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?1642 this] Mike Resnick novel, I found the original art in 'Zo Schildert Vicente Segrelles'. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 13:26, 10 September 2019 (EDT)
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| − | Hi, the cover artist of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?55395 this] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?301485 this] is Boris Vallejo, see [https://fineart.ha.com/itm/pulp-pulp-like-digests-and-paperback-art/boris-vallejo-american-b-1941-celestial-cab-1981oil-on-board2625-x-1675-in-sight-signed-and-dated/a/5245-71198.s ha.com] which shows the original signed art. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 15:13, 28 March 2020 (EDT)
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| − | Cover artists for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?24013 this] identified as Alan Guitterez. Credit from the same art used on Altan no. 836 ebook from [https://www.perrypedia.de/wiki/Der_sterbende_Prophet here] --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 19:20, 9 May 2020 (EDT)
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| − | :Credit is actually from the signature on the cover of ''Night of the Dragonstar'' and has been entered that way on the pub record. -- [[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 21:12, 9 May 2020 (EDT)
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| − | Cover art for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?195833 this] is Martin Hoffman. See [https://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/martin-hoffman-illustration-painting-for-visitor-1084c-c-46f4afbadd# here]. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 00:55, 17 August 2020 (EDT)
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| − | Cover artist of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?149801 this] is Davis Meltzer, his signature is in the middle at the very bottom of the front cover, see [https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a4/dc/38/a4dc38fd5bb623bcacc37327e8784fcf.jpg this scan]. [[User:Horzel|Horzel]] 17:30, 27 September 2020 (EDT)
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| − | Cover art for [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?178405 this] conformed as Ray Feibush on the Bruce Pennington Fan Page on Facebook. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 10:29, 9 October 2020 (EDT)
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| − | Long time no see! Welcome back! Hope things are gong well in Kraang-land :-) [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 12:57, 24 September 2021 (EDT)
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| − | :Exploring the infinite universe was taking me long than I thought it would![[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 13:37, 24 September 2021 (EDT)
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| − | :: When you have a moment, could you please review [[Rules and standards changelog]], which lists the changes to our data entry rules since the mid-2010s? TIA! [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 08:28, 25 September 2021 (EDT)
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| − | Under [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Policy#Rules_of_Acquisition which rule] are [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?858270 this] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?858270 this] eligible for addition? The current rules for web-only publication are:
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| − | This is a non-genre webzine and these are single stories inside of non-genre issues (if we bend the second rule to mean "a story" inside of otherwise non-genre issues or just a story out there, we are literally allowing ANY story published online...) I generally am in favor of allowing these types of stories from non-genre webzines BUT we need a rule change for that. Or do you see it as eligible under one of the available categories above? Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 14:50, 27 September 2021 (EDT)
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| − | : I see that this is one of those Rules changes ([[Rules and standards changelog]] 2018-07-05) that were implemented while Kraang was on hiatus. I would recommend reviewing them carefully because some of the language was very carefully crafted to allow certain types of publications while disallownig certain other types. It can be confusing at first :-) [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 15:25, 27 September 2021 (EDT)
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| − | ::Well in my defense I looked at past updates for this webzine and figured it was included[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pub_history.cgi?688686].[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 18:35, 27 September 2021 (EDT)
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| − | ::: That one was a "International Science Fiction" issue which is indeed included as a "Special speculative ''fiction'' issues of non-genre webzines".
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| − | ::: Webzines were not allowed at all and this specific issue was one of the reasons we added that specific subclause. As I said, I am in favor of actually allowing these non-genre webzines in the same way we would allow them if they were ebooks or on paper. If I start a Rules discussion, would you support it the rule change? :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 18:49, 27 September 2021 (EDT)
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| − | ::::No. I'll delete the non genre editions. Mostly stayed away from mags and especially web mags in the past. Now I remember why.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 19:02, 27 September 2021 (EDT)
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| − | ::::: They can be a pain... I still think of reopening the discussion - way too many story do not make it to anything but webzines lately... Oh, and welcome back :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 19:04, 27 September 2021 (EDT)
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| − | For now I'll stick with what I know, plus mags and webzines that are all ready established here, the questionable submissions I'll leave in the queue.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 19:13, 27 September 2021 (EDT)
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| − | : And yet: [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?861299 it happened again] (one of the authors pinged on a report). So shall we start a discussion in R&S that will allow these? :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 12:49, 6 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | ::Which author and what story is the problem? "pinged on a report"?[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 16:48, 6 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | ::: I fixed [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/ea.cgi?333395 the author] who pinged (it had a non a-zA-Z letter in the directory name - that last letter is not a straight i). The problem is that this magazine is still not eligible except for their speculative issues (and children literature issue is not that). :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 17:02, 6 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | ::::Should I leave it as is or remove some or all. I've had lots of practice in the past, thousands of pubs and titles.(non genre and early reader books(you read they look at the big pictures)) :)[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 17:13, 6 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | ::::: That's the question. :) If we want to reopen the discussion on non-genre webzines and see where it leads us, we may as well leave it for now and we can delete it if it is decided against. If not, it is technically not supposed to be here. I am all for opening the discussion - the current state of the policy was supposed to be just phase 1 of an expansion allowing us to catalog web-only material... So I think we should leave it for now (just let's keep any new ones on hold) and I will restart the discussion later this week. What do you think? And yeah, deleting is part of life - especially with some of the stuff added early on - that and the novel -> chapbook conversions... :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 17:20, 6 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | I changed it to a non genre webzine and added some warnings. If I had of seen the 2009 webzine labeled non genre I would have passed on the submission. /:[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 17:37, 6 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | : If you see "Editors of" as the author, it is most likely non-genre. We recently changed the rules so we do not enforce the "Editors of" anymore for all non-genre ones but all the older ones will have it if they were not changed and virtually no genre one will. I suspect you may already know that but it had been awhile so... sharing my shortcut :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 17:53, 6 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | : Although, ironically enough, the 2009 issue is actually a genre one - so included here and in full... Always fun with those. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 17:55, 6 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | ::Ok 2009 is genre but 2020 is not, how does one determines what content is in since the 2020 content looked like it was genre to me? I'd like to understand where I've gone wrong so I can make decisions about what webzines to approve and what to leave for others. Is there are page or discussion that I can read to get up to speed?[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 18:10, 6 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | ::: The stories that were added ARE genre, the problem is that non-genre webzines can only have issues added when the issues fall under "Special speculative fiction issues of non-genre webzines". So the 2009 one being a a Speculative Fiction special issue falls under that rule. The 2020 one is a Children Literature one - it has some genre fiction but as it is not a special genre issue (most of the fiction is not genre), it is out. See the top of this thread for the part of the policy I copied that applies to webzines (web-only - once they have an ebook or a paper version, those are back to the normal rule where we can add any issue but the non-genre ones get only genre contents). I will track down the old discussion where the rule was decided and post a link here - although I remember it being the usual meandering mess. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 18:26, 6 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | ::: [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Rules_and_standards_discussions/Archive/Archive16#Inclusion_of_webzines_and_one-time_anthologies This] was the outcome that actually made this 2009 issue eligible (before that, even it was out). The actual discussion linked there is now [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Rules_and_standards_discussions/Archive/Archive16#Online_publications_that_are_not_downloadable here]. Have fun! :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 18:30, 6 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | Ok. This helps explain things better. I'll read the thread and be much more careful in the future. Thanks![[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 19:13, 6 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | : Anytime. You will also see that we called it Phase/Part 1 of the changes. We never revisited because... reasons. I am still considering actually reopening the discussion to at least equalize fiction webzines with e-zines and paper-zines (aka open for non-genre fiction ones at least) - we want these stories, we were just being careful as this was the first time webzines (outside of awards winners and SFWA markets) became eligible and as you can imagine, there are thousands of them. At one point I was tracking 100 crime/mystery webzines (not for here) - allowing non-genre webzines looked like opening the gates too fast; same with the non-issues based blogs/webzines... thus the decision to restrict that way. Let me know if I can assist in any way. And thanks for working the queue on the last weeks! :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 19:25, 6 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | :I've been doing the low hanging fruit subs and probably just went by it by accident and haven't done a run through of the skip ones. Will do them now. THanks![[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 13:58, 2 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | We had changed the policy/practice on that a bit - we convert the review to an essay instead of leaving it as a review and with an empty title. We even have a report to clean the non-fiction non-genre that had been added under the old practice... :) So I deleted "The Birthday Ball" after fixing the review [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?325252 here]. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 15:08, 7 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | :Yes much tidier. Thanks![[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 19:01, 7 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | :(the piped pages numbers)? that's new to me and Notes templates also new, the rest I watch out for as best as possible. You'll note I leave in the queue anything that's really messed up.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 18:00, 11 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | :: The piped numbers are useful because they will keep the contents in the correct order - we did an aborted attempt to change the default order to alphabetical and it was a disaster... So whenever we know the order, we set it in stone with the piped numbers. See how I did it [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/edit/editpub.cgi?493428 here]. That way the order in the book resembles what the PV/editor meant it to show no matter what the default sorting is or what happens to any title (now it is essentially by internal IDs).
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| − | :: Don't take that in a negative way - I am just trying to help - the site had changed a lot on the last few years. And new editors learning bad practices is never a good thing. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 18:10, 11 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | :::Used some of those Templates in the past and I saw how the stories were keep in order without displaying a number, didn't know it had a name.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 18:27, 11 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | :::: [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=Template:PubContentFields:Page The help page]. It's the symbol/character name of | - so piped numbers/pipe method/pipes - you will see it every which way. Sorry for not being clearer initially. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 18:37, 11 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | : For books: /P/ images are bad (they are ISBN based - when the cover changes for the ISBN on Amazon, the image changes. Not good for us for covers. Behind the scenes, Amazon shifts their /P/ pointer to a new /I/ images.
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| − | When moderating Tocchan's submissions, they always require a heavy edit after they are approved:
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| − | * For ebooks, we need ASIN, ISBN when available, price, source notes (they never add notes) and often page numbers need to be moved to the notes.
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| − | They also never record exact dates and that means someone later usually spends the time to fix them (they are a good information to have). Every moderator had tried to work with them multiple times, we are just ignored and the quality does not approve. So if you approve their submissions, you are on the hook to fix them after that - see the edits I did [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5117025 here] and [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5117026 here] for example. :) Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 20:21, 12 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | :OK. Figured something was better than nothing and since not verified, then no issues when updated. A quick scan of their Talk page indicated no replies. Will try to fix the print books but may ignore the ebooks for now until I become more familiar with them. If I can't hold it I don't own it.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 20:55, 12 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | :: Part of the problem is that they are adding future books - which are not properly identified (the lack of ASINs for example makes it impossible for Fixer to know that we already have the book so I get a duplicate and need to deal with it). Plus future books tend to shift and change a lot. So some books end up with 10+ edits in the following months. Thus the attempt to make sure we at least have minimal information when adding.
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| − | :: And even if nothing else is fixed, we should never allow a non-verified book without at least one source listed in the notes (that's why we have that weird Yellow " - No Note data" at the bottom of the approval screen like [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5115933 here] - if nothing else, that needs to be fixed upon approval by adding whatever place the moderator checked that the book does exist and the data is correct (and the editors need to be advised - unless it is one of the known ones who never listen). And if you are fixing that anyway, adding the price and a few other pieces usually does not take much longer. A lot easier to track problems when we know the sources. Thanks for the understanding. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 21:06, 12 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | :Figured out how to add the ASIN, but while working on publishers I find a lot of them don't link to anything especially the older ones(ebooks). I was wondering about the "No Note data" now it makes sense. If I don't break something I will never learn how to fix it.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 21:29, 12 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | :: Re: older ASINs. Amazon started removing old unavailable records a few years ago due to marketing reasons (before that they kept everything). However - other sites (Goodreads for example) and other bibliographies and author sites use them as de-facto identifiers so we keep them on record. If an inactive one is found, a note can be added in the publication saying "The ASIN does not work on Amazon.com/UK/whatever anymore as of date" or something like that. Also - sometimes they work on other Amazons (that's why we have 16 on that line). Please note that for most paper books, the ASIN is ISBN10 so we do not record it separately; we want an ISBN only for ebooks, audiobooks, non-ISBN records and for ISBNs starting with 979 (because these do not have ISBN10 - and without the ASIN for these, we do not have direct link to the record anymore - as the Amazon link on the left uses ISBN10 based links - so now it sends us into the "search for ISBN" instead of the source record). And as of a year or so ago, Amazon stopped reporting ISBNs for ebooks - so without the ASINs in play, dots cannot be connected (and Fixer suffers - although this is less important). Amazon can be fun sometimes. :)
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| − | :: The warning is only yellow because if we force the editors to add notes programmatically, they will start clicking "from the publisher site" (which adds automatic text) which defeats the purpose... So yellow warning and education it is :)
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| − | :: If something does look weird, feel free to ping me :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 21:47, 12 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | :Please add art and mention source. Thanks[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 11:30, 13 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | :: Done. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 06:03, 17 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | Will you process [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5120697] while you are still online? Thanks [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 21:35, 15 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | :Done.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 21:39, 15 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | == Borrowed Hearts ==
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| − | Please see [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Taweiss#Deleting_non-genre_publications_with_reviews this] - a few things to keep in mind when approving deletion of books - [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pub_history.cgi?279172 the pub that got deleted]. :) Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 19:47, 19 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | :Use to leave them in the past like this[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?958974], a title only and no publication attached. Do we turn the review into an essay and note why it was switched??[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 21:51, 19 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | :: Yup, the rules were changed some years ago. The new rules are as described in the Help section that Annie linked below. [[User:Ahasuerus|Ahasuerus]] 22:13, 19 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | : I'll hunt down the collection and add it back in with that one story and leave a note.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 22:00, 19 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | :: (after conflict) Because it is not eligible for addition (having a review does not make it eligible) so we follow our own ROA and we do not add books and titles just because a genre publication happens to review it. We had been cleaning the non fiction that was added that way as we have a ton of them - there is a report for that. See also: [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Help:Screen:NewPub#What_to_include the help page for NewPub] - the reviews section of the what to include where we spell it out that reviews of non eligible books are to be added as essays. The list of what is not eligible is just for an illustration of what types of books are ineligible - it really applies to any ineligible book.
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| − | :: Although in this case, the pub should not have been deleted at all to start with as it is eligible as a non-genre book with genre content (so partial contents only to be added). Use the OCLC link I linked in the post I left to get you started with tracking it down. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 22:06, 19 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | :::Already added the ebook will add original HC 1999 next.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 22:22, 19 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | :::: The last sentence was based on your note that you will hunt it down (which sent me in edit conflict) - was just trying to help as I did some digging and no reason to redo all the work from scratch - oclc have ISBNs, then finding a book is easier. And thanks! :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 22:27, 19 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | :Earliest book I found was Sept 2000 and a book review from"The New York times book review. (June 27, 1999)" I wonder if this is where the 1999 date is from?[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 22:40, 19 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | :: OCLC mentions copyright 1999 on at least a few of the 2000 copies (and has them as 1999) so probably at least some of the confusion came from that. [https://www.biblio.com/book/borrowed-hearts-new-selected-stories-demarinis/d/689060671 Biblio] says 1999 as well and this isbn pings as 1999 on a lot of selling sites (among later dates). [https://www.kirkusreviews.com/book-reviews/rick-demarinis/borrowed-hearts/ Kirkus] claims a pub date in 1999 as well. Goodreads also claims 1999 publication but they do not have an entry for it. So it feels like there is a 1999 book. I will do some more digging tomorrow morning. :)[[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 22:54, 19 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | ::: We can also pull the deleted record from the latest site archive and see what was inside and if it gives us anything about the 1999 edition. On a separate note - do you mind if I rewrite your note a bit? We don’t know if the review reviewed just the one story; we include the one as the only known speculative contents basically - not because it got reviewed (which is how your note sounds). Thanks. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 23:04, 19 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | :Change the note to something better and add back the missing bits. Found the 1999 and it appears that it was reprinted in 2003, no idea on the 1999 price.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 23:09, 19 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | :: Changing the notes to "Only the short fiction that is known to be speculative is included; the rest of the collection is believed to be non-genre.". You may want to add some notes about the source of that first edition though. BTW - you do not need to close a li tag :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 23:30, 19 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | ::: All of them need a source actually: unless a pub is verified, we should always have a source listed from where the book was added/checked, with a date attached preferably if the source is online. I fixed the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?864222 ebook] source (As it was obviously Amazon so that was an easy one). I also moved the page number in the notes - for ebooks we never use the Pages field as per [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=Template:PublicationFields:Pages the help page]: "For ebooks, do not enter in this field the number of pages. The estimated number given by the publisher or some sites may be specified in the "Notes" field.". Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 23:35, 19 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | We cannot have serialized essays due to how we define [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php?title=Template:TitleFields:TitleType serials]:
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| − | * SERIAL. Use for a title that would otherwise be either SHORTFICTION or NOVEL, but which is being serialized in a magazine, a fanzine or a series of chapbooks.
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| − | If you would like to propose that we allow essays or other formats (poems?) to be serialized, we need a rules change discussion. :) But as it is now, they need to be treated as separate essays when published in parts. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 01:22, 23 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | :Seemed a logical solution, never was one to read the owners manual, just pushed all the buttons and learned the hard way. Serials mostly only found in magazines and this was never a strong area for me so learning as I go.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 11:48, 23 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | :: While I understand that, I've found that when I am supposed to explain the rules to someone else, it is a good idea to actually check the rules and not assume what they might be. Easier to teach a new editor how to do things than to unteach them in a few weeks/months when someone notices that they are doing something weird because they had been taught so. :)
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| − | :: Magazines can be... challenging. I wish the site had not drifted into two separate patterns and rules books - one for magazines and one for books but we are where we are. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 00:00, 24 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | Li tags do not require their closing /li but you need a ul around them - otherwise it messes up how the site shows the contents. I fixed a few you edited today where you forgot the opening and the closing ul. Thanks! :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 02:21, 23 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | :Only notice one warning, would have fixed it but forgot(cleanup report helps me find them). lots of messy submissions to clean up. Would help if some of these new? submitters would respond.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 11:36, 23 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | :: A couple looked like your own edits - that’s why I stopped by to mention it just in case you have a bad template somewhere or something. It would, wouldn’t it? :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 17:37, 23 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | While approving my submission of the tp [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?864955 The Killing Pledge], you changed my publisher attribution. I entered just the publisher. You decided to change it to imprint / publisher. The standards state that my entry was perfectly acceptable. You might have at least asked my opinion. Yes, the publication is not verified, you were under no obligation to notify me, but, a little consideration. What do you think? [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 22:21, 23 October 2021 (EDT) P.S. I have no problem with using imprint / publisher, only not being pinged.
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| − | :Amazon look inside provided a better publisher name so I added it. Since there was no Primary, Transient or Secondary Verifications a minor improvement was justified. If I notify every submitter for minor changes on this type of submission much few approvals would get done.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 23:49, 23 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | :: On the other hand when we have a newish editor who is eager to learn and is actually paying attention, not notifying them in such cases so they learn how to do things better does not help them grow on the site and moderators will keep needing to change things for them in perpetuity. Just a thought. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 23:57, 23 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | ::: Coincidentally, I am trying to start a discussion on publisher attribution [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/Rules_and_standards_discussions#Help:Screen:NewPub_Publisher in Rules and standards], interested in contributing? [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 08:51, 24 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | Can you point me to the rule based in which you added (Box Set) to [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5129839 this title]? We will have that in the title if it is printed on the title page (or cover if there is no unified title page for paper box sets) but I do not see it anywhere on this one and it is not a practice to add such things to our titles thus making the ebook title different by necessity and requiring us to to additional variants - as they have actual title pages. PS: And if we add it, it will need a space before that (".
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| − | Or did I miss a source showing that as part of the title? [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 19:45, 24 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | :Not ebooks, three pb/tp in a box according to the image and submitters notes.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 19:53, 24 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | :: Did not say it is - I am explaining what will happen if we are changing the paper box sets titles like that - you are forcing a separate variant for the ebook just so we have something in the title that is not printed anywhere. But a paper box containing other books means no title page so we cannot use the usual method to determine a title. Which means we title based on the cover - the only title we have for these sets. We do not make up a name for these out of whole cloth. The "Box Set" part goes into the notes unless it is actually printed on that cover. Unless I missed a rule saying otherwise - so I am asking based on what rule that was added. Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 19:59, 24 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | :::Back to the original Amazon cover. Found this title[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?735216] and added more info from the one I own. The original title I found was "The Expanse Box Set" not my words but no where on the box are the words "Box Set" and the data base is full of these.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 20:14, 24 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | :::Plus this[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?10747][[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 20:22, 24 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | :::: Having older titles or titles added under older rules in the DB is not a good reason to keep making the same type of entries. We did not even allow ebooks until relatively late in the project's life or non-Latin characters in title or author names (not to mention web-only publications) so a lot of things made sense back then. Things keep changing and the DB sometimes get a bit... not uptodate. Is the DB full of weird cases that needs fixing? Yes - just look at the Cleanup reports page and that's the tip of the iceberg. But for newer stuff, the closer we keep to reality and what is printed, the better. Except for the few cases we do regularize (publisher names/pub series names, author names with initials and suffixes and capitalization of titles) :) Just saying. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 20:27, 24 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | :::: PS: IF anything, that Adams should be called "L!fe, the Un!verse and Everyth!ng" if we want to be exact or just "Life, the Universe and Everything" (considering the ! to be inverted i's so falling under the same rules under which we do not record html in titles) because it is the only visible title... What we have now is a description of the book, not a title of it... Although this may be the wrong cover for that ISBN considering the Amazon record's state. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 20:35, 24 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | :Not my work. If the words "Box Set" are not on the box having (box set) in title in brackets indicates to me its not printed but if someone is searching titles you can still find all the box sets. Good luck finding them without it. Based on what I see at the book stores there are a lot more to come.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 20:45, 24 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | :: And "Pub Notes contain "Box Set" is as easy to search for as is (box set) in a title. We can even add a template that puts that in a way that is even easier to search. Will people use it? Same answer as with will they add (box set) to a title - we can keep an eye for them. The difference being that one is actually "title as used" (so if it says "Boxset", "Box Set", "Boxed Set" you do not need to look for all 3 or repeat the "prefered one" in brackets), the other requires us to have a separate record for the box set from its corresponding ebook title record (which can be box set or ebundle or anything like that - and which have proper title pages usually so we have a real title). [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 20:51, 24 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | :This is the same[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?859994] as the the one I was messing around with.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 22:52, 24 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | :: And it has a note on where the title is coming from: "Title based on Amazon's listing; no cover page or box set cover available.". When it was added, I was not sure this is the cover of the boxset - only Amazon showed that one (pre-release) - they tend to shift when the publisher does not have them. I review these usually when the rest of the formats show up (or when I do the monthly reviews for newly added books). Yours not only did not have a note explaining where the title came from but effectively kinda contradicted the note the editor left explaining why they had the longer title. Let me see if the cover of this box set finally stabilized now that it is out. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 22:57, 24 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | ::: Yep, Bloosmbury added the same cover finally so title and note updated. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 23:06, 24 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | You were right to not approve it [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:AlainLeBris#Imajica:_Tome_1 here] - that's a somewhat ongoing issue with the French books. We use the correct value in the ISBN field if we can find it and add a note showing the actually printed one and explaining the change (with a source if possible). If the Catalog ID is empty otherwise, we can add it there (helps visualization) - that also maps to the old practice to add # in front of it (which got abolished when we split the ISBN field into ISBN and Catalog ID fields so now ISBN must be numerically correct). Hope that helps. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 13:31, 25 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | :Remembered adding the # sign. I'll fix and leave message(into the fire).[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 13:39, 25 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | :: Figured you might - that's why I mentioned it and what happened to it. :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 13:45, 25 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | :::Corrected and left note in pub and on original submitters page, all should be well. :/[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 13:53, 25 October 2021 (EDT)
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| − | Still work in progress or time to clean [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?247 this note]? :) [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 15:18, 1 November 2021 (EDT)
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| − | :Fixed a few "Vintage Books" to "Vintage (UK)". Most "Vintage Books" in C$ are probably "Vintage (UK)" but without look inside hard to be 100% certain. Most "Vintage Books" in Pound Sterling are Vintage Books / London the other 99% are New York. I think splitting them out might be useful.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 16:55, 1 November 2021 (EDT)
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| − | :: I pinged you mainly because of the note. :) Yeah - one of the things I do occasionally is to look at our "same named across borders" publishers and shift books to where they belong - despite all the warnings and explanations, people enter them where they feel like - some are easier to clear, some can give you a headache tracing. The whole publishers system is a mess in places (thus [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Scifibones#Publishers this] and we will see where that leads. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 17:01, 1 November 2021 (EDT)
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| − | :It probably will make no difference since this imprint will be merged into just "Pyr". But yes feel free to change it. Thanks.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 20:48, 8 November 2021 (EST)
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| − | :Never occurred to me to look for that, just assumed they where stories. Used the look inside and I see the break down, but with out that I would have to accept what is submitted. Thanks for the heads up.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 22:17, 21 November 2021 (EST)
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| − | :: They were NONFICTION and not "SHORT FICTION" in the submitted record though - I would not have noticed a problem if an essay was added as a short story unless the title was very very likely to be an essay (Introduction for example) :) It's one of the things that trip people that only add books occasionally (that and the pb vs tp - so I always look for both). Sorry for not making it clearer that I meant the "NONFICTION" as ISFDB type and not just the non-fiction pieces themselves. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 22:29, 21 November 2021 (EST)
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| − | Hello, Kraang. Thanks for clearing off my pending edits so quickly! Do you think you could approve the issue of Future I submitted? It's been more than a week. Do you know if there's some problem with it? Thanks again.--[[User:Rosab618|Rosab618]] 00:09, 4 December 2021 (EST)
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| − | :It's been done now. Had a look at it just now and it looked fine, probably just missed it.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 09:52, 4 December 2021 (EST)
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| − | :The map is there. Thanks.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 18:46, 12 December 2021 (EST)
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| − | :Please add it. Thanks.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 21:22, 14 December 2021 (EST)
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| − | :Publisher name was changed per note and cover variant was not obvious even after I looked at it several times, a explanation would have helped.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 09:42, 25 December 2021 (EST)
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| − | Intend to submit LCCN and page numbers for {{p|14419|Forward the Foundation}}. [[User_talk:Taweiss#Forward_the_Foundation|lgtm]] [[User_talk:Holmesd#Forward_the_Foundation|lgtm]] [[User:Fjh|Fjh]] 16:16, 2 January 2022 (EST)
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| − | :Proceed. Thanks.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 23:40, 2 January 2022 (EST)
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| − | :Hi! Sorry for answering late. You are right. I have now uploaded a scan of my own copy. [[User:PortOfHamburg|PortOfHamburg]] 04:16, 20 February 2022 (EST)
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| − | :: Thanks - nice to have some confirmation that my memory hasn't degraded as much as it sometimes feels like ;-) [[User:ErsatzCulture|ErsatzCulture]] 10:45, 20 February 2022 (EST)
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| − | :Original submission had no image and all I found was the current one, but as you say its for a later edition, I'll remove the current image. Thanks! Also this submitter only has one edit and you may not hear back. Again thanks.18:13, 17 January 2022 (EST)
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| − | :Change away. Great website I wonder if there's one for all the Ace books out there? Thanks![[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 16:05, 5 February 2022 (EST)
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| − | ::Submitted. I've only found this site for Andre Norton but who knows what's lurking out there? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 18:08, 5 February 2022 (EST)
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| − | :Yes they need to be merged. If you look at the main title for Taltos(covers)[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1255107] you will see the two identical variant cover records you have links to. To merge go to Advanced Search and click titles and search Taltos. You want Coverart results in this case the 2nd & 4th result(Parent Title & Parent Authors) match. Select and merge. This will fix things. Check Duplicates will not find this & it takes awhile to find and use Advance search for this sort of thing.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 14:01, 20 February 2022 (EST)
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| − | ::Merge submitted. Thanks for your help. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 15:46, 20 February 2022 (EST)
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| − | :I used "Stated 1st printing" in the past when there was less detail in the notes. Mine are as yours. I'll approve now. Thanks.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 19:10, 25 February 2022 (EST)
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| − | :I would also drop the "Stated 1st printing" line as it's no longer relevant.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 22:06, 25 February 2022 (EST)
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| − | :Had them on my list of books to get back to. Figured I just approve them & return later and fix them but have been busy approving submissions. Might take a day or a week but I'll always return to finish things. P.S. thanks for doing them, that list is checked off.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 15:09, 6 March 2022 (EST)
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| − | :Will go back & see if there are hc, tp, or ebooks to add. The submitter of these doesn't include everything that's available.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 15:14, 6 March 2022 (EST)
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| − | :: Fixer finds most of the missing ones and I add them when he does - the different formats get loaded on a different schedule to Amazon though so they come in in different batches. :) Which is how I caught these - as the ASIN was missing, Fixer submitted a few of these again so I just untangled all of them so I don’t get more duplicates. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 16:12, 6 March 2022 (EST)
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| − | <br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 07:52, 15 March 2022 (EDT)
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| − | :Looks fine submit changes.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 22:53, 15 March 2022 (EDT)
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| − | :Looks fine submit changes.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 22:53, 15 March 2022 (EDT)
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| − | :The change is fine with me, if you have similar updates for other PV of mine just submit them. My original submissions had only the basic info and only later was the more detailed info being added.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 23:40, 18 March 2022 (EDT)
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| − | :Entered these books back in 2007 will dig them out and check.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 23:33, 18 March 2022 (EDT)
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| − | Hi. You just approved my creation of title/publication:<br>
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| − | I didn't mean to create another title, I was planning to use this one, already existing:<br>
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| − | http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1277638<br>
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| − | I do not know how to proceed now. --[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 07:18, 25 April 2022 (EDT)<p>
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| − | :Just use the "Delete this pub" and submit, a short note about why and the after its deleted go back & delete the Title Record[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?3024801], you will see it is then empty.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 11:34, 25 April 2022 (EDT)
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| − | :: I meant to create the publication, but not a new title. Can i delete the title, leaving the publication without a single title for some time, and then import the correct existing title? --[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 15:54, 25 April 2022 (EDT)
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| − | :::In "advanced search" you can merge the titles records. In "Advanced Search" click on titles & search "Palm Sunday: An Autobiographical Collage". You will get four results. Select the first 1981 that has the parent record & the third which is the one you created 1982 and merge the records. This will get your publication under the correct variant at the same time.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 16:17, 25 April 2022 (EDT)
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| − | :::: Thank you for your help :). I have 3 pending title merges now. I hope I did it right. --[[User:Spacecow|Spacecow]] 19:02, 25 April 2022 (EDT)
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| − | All approved & correct :)[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 20:41, 25 April 2022 (EDT)
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| − | I've applied to be a self-approver, but it's getting buried in other comments. Please weigh in either way.
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| − | http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#Application_for_self-approval_status_--_taweiss
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| − | Thanks [[User:Taweiss|Tom]] 10:57, 2 May 2022 (EDT)
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| − | Hi. Does the publishers project you list for yourself refer to relocation of valuable info from Wiki pages to database publishers, and elimination of the Wiki pages? Or something else?
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| − | Occasionally 2-6 years ago I added info to one of those Wiki pages. Generally, I don't look at them and may not notice that they exist. I suppose they are much reduced in number, now in the 2020s.
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| − | Thanks for your attention as moderator. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 11:21, 5 May 2022 (EDT)
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| − | :Sometimes added to the Wiki page but 99% was on the ISFDB publishers page. I've done a lot on the updates[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/topcontrib.cgi?23] and merging[http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/topcontrib.cgi?24]. I'm still actively interested in this area and I'm always interested in finding things to fix. Need to update the project page now that I'm back from three year break.. Submissions keep me busy.21:36, 5 May 2022 (EDT)
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| − | Thanks for approving [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?897519 my very first edits here]. [[User:ATorsius|ATorsius]] 13:48, 14 May 2022 (EDT)
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| − | Just heads up and a reminder: when approving external IDs and web links, please check that they belong to the edition they are added to. That's part of why we have moderation - second set of eyes and all that :) See [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Hifrommike65#Time_Was this one] for example. Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 14:43, 15 June 2022 (EDT)
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| − | :I do random checks on most submitters(left one problem child for others to play with) but after a while if I find no issues I only do spot checks. All new submitters I check everything. If every link has to be checked my approvals would drop to 10 percent or less and the moderator board is getting rather long.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 16:17, 15 June 2022 (EDT)
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| − | :: May be a good idea to at least make sure you check them when approving changes to PVed books - not all PVs are always around to spot and fix the incorrect change and adding incorrect data to verified books is kinda making the whole verification process meaningless. [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] 22:06, 15 June 2022 (EDT)
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| − | ::: Yeah, Special K, see the problem was that you ran through dozens of edits in a few minutes so it was clear that you weren't taking the time to look at edits closely and were just fulfilling a quota, and on the very rare (2 times) occasions when you rejected an edit you were wrong on both of them and they had to be un-rejected. If that's being a problem, hey, I got 99 problems but a Kraang ain't one. --[[User:Username|Username]] 22:50, 15 June 2022 (EDT)
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| − | Could you weigh in on [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5345522]? Thanks. --[[User:GlennMcG|Glenn]] 16:52, 20 June 2022 (EDT)
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| − | :looks fine. Is there an issue with the change?[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 17:03, 20 June 2022 (EDT)
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| − | :: Nope, nothing wrong. You were entitled to a notifications as a PV. [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 18:00, 20 June 2022 (EDT)
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| − | Today you approved my four submissions toward undoing {{a|Irving Heine}} as a pseudonym of Denis Hughes. Thanks.<br>I expected there would be leftover, never-published chapbook and shortfiction by Denis Hughes, which need to be deleted; but I don't find them. You noticed, and did that manually, I suppose (correct me if wrong). --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 16:37, 1 July 2022 (EDT)
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| − | :Yes I deleted the two title records, If your edits will leave a title record empty just leave a note to the moderator that you will do the title record deletion. Better to do them right away and not have to look at the cleanup report and wonder why it is empty. Thanks[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 20:18, 1 July 2022 (EDT)
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| − | Hello Kraang. I wanted to ask you about [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?46937 this] publication. As you can see the UK edition I have is by A. A. Attanasio not Adam Lee. I know the contents part shows that fact but the publication metadata has it as Adam Lee. Should it not be Attanasio ? --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 15:57, 2 July 2022 (EDT)
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| − | :I'll sort it out. It needs to be unmerged. renamed and then merged back with the parent title under A. A. Attanasio. Will do it now. Thanks[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 16:24, 2 July 2022 (EDT)
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| − | :: Thanks. Sorry to have caused some headache. As you may have noticed I've had a lot of books tooling up over the past few weeks (mostly Attanasio's works). --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:02, 2 July 2022 (EDT)
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| − | Sorry to bug you with another question. It's about this edition of [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?310980 Sandkings].Copyright & title page has "Futura Publications". Copyright page mentions it being a division of Macdonald & Co. Oribt doesn't appear anywhere on the title page or copyright page - the Oribit logo is only on the cover & spine - note does state back cover has "Futura Publications (over) An Orbit Book" - do you think this enough evidence to change publisher to just Futura ? --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 17:09, 2 July 2022 (EDT)
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| − | :No I would leave it as is. The note explains it and all the other books I looked at are very much the same.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 20:33, 2 July 2022 (EDT)
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| − | ::Thanks. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 23:44, 2 July 2022 (EDT)
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| − | <br>Recently, I made a pub update submission on Larry Niven's [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?42113 The Integral Trees], which you approved. Shortly afterward, Mavmaramis also made a pub update submission, which you approved. This was flagged up in My Recently Changed Primary Verifications so I looked to see what had changed and discovered that a comment I had added to the pub notes was no longer there. The comment was:
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| − | <br>I immediately leapt to the obvious conclusion: Mavmaramis had deleted my comment and you had approved the deletion. (Blood starts to boil.... :-) )
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| − | <br>However, after further investigation and inspection of the edit history, I don't think that is the case at all. I think the actual explanation is considerably more alarming: we have a multi user write access problem.
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| − | <br>3) 2022-07-01 12:56:58 Mavmaramis makes submission 5353339: PubUpdate
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| − | <br>4) 2022-07-01 14:32:43 Kraang approves Teallach's submission
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| − | <br>5) 2022-07-02 13:15:00 (approx) Teallach visually inspects the pub record to check it has been updated as expected. All looks good. The Glossary Comment is present in the pub notes.
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| − | <br>6) 2022-07-02 13:16:37 Teallach PVs pub record
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| − | <br>8) 2022-07-02 18:00:00 (approx) Teallach sees that The Integral Trees has been flagged up in My Recently Changed Primary Verifications, visually inspects the pub record, sees Mavmaramis' additional remarks and discovers that his Glossary Comment is missing from the pub notes.
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| − | <br>So I guess what has happened is that during stage 3), Mavmaramis' submission took a copy of the Pub Notes field which, at that time, did not contain the Glossary Comment and added his own remarks. This was then held until stage 7) when it overwrote the Pub Notes field which, in the meantime, had been updated with the Glossary Comment. Therefore the Glossary Comment vanished.
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| − | <br>Teallach's submission also changed other fields, such as the number of Pages. These changes have been retained. It is only the pub notes field that has been affected and I guess this is because that is the only field that was changed in both submissions.
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| − | <br>If I am correct then I have to say that I am extremely surprised that the ISFDb software permits this sort of thing to happen. Multi user write access is a well known, age old problem with computer databases. Prior to this experience, I had assumed that when an editor makes a submission, the ISFDb software would lock affected records, make them read-only and forbid another editor from making a submission on the affected records until the first editor's submission had been processed. I also find it very hard to believe that this is the first time this scenario has ever happened and that I am the first person to notice it. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 14:07, 3 July 2022 (EDT)
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| − | : Just wanted to add my tuppence worth. I cannot recall if the Glossary Comment was present or not when I added two items to the notes. I'm not in the habit of deliberately deleting meaningful or worthwhile notes and if it did happen it was entirely accidental. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 15:07, 3 July 2022 (EDT)
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| − | ::I've never run into this problem before(as far as I can remember, been here since 2007 so who can remember everything) and I've always been aware of the issue you are describing, but never realized it was a problem in databases, my back ground is not computer oriented. You may want to approach Ahasuerus since he deals with software updates. When I've noticed this type of deletion in the past on PV pubs I usually Hold and inquire or just replace the deleted info. With processing a 1200 to 1500 submissions a week a few mistakes happen, but all can be made well. I can see in history what is missing so I will add it back. Hope this sorts everything out. Thanks![[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 16:01, 3 July 2022 (EDT)
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| − | :::Mavmaramis: The Glossary Comment would not have been present at the time you made your edit. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 18:36, 3 July 2022 (EDT)
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| − | ::::Kraang: That's fine. I certainly wasn't expecting you to fix the write access problem. I just wanted to sound you out first to make sure I wasn't jumping to any daft conclusions. I will now draw Ahasuerus' attention to this situation. You did not make a mistake. The Glossary Comment would not have been flagged as a deletion in the warnings column of Mavmaramis' submission. This is a perfect example of why it is so dangerous to allow multiple users to have simultaneous write access. I have seen that you have restored the Glossary Comment today. Many thanks. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 18:38, 3 July 2022 (EDT)
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| − | :Couple of points:<br>A) I wasn't aware that a submission could potentially affect so many records. I have a background in computer databases so I appreciate what you're saying about locking affected records: "it would be doable if we threw enough man-hours at it, but it would require a lot of work.". I accept that we just have to be aware of this situation and learn to live with it.<br>B) As you suggested, I took a look at submission 5353339 and could not believe my eyes. When I was first investigating this problem, I looked at the relevant submissions in the edit history and I will swear blind that this sub now looks different. Previously, it did not show the deletion:<br> <nowiki>-<li></nowiki>Novel ends on page 235. Dramatis Personae on pages 236-237. Glossary on pages 238-240<br>in the Warnings column. Having thought about it, I think what has happened is that the current view of this sub has been changed by the [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5355423 subsequent submission 5355423] which Kraang made to restore this comment. So this means that at the time Kraang approved Mavmaramis' submission 5353339, the warning would not have been there. Is this deduction correct? [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 18:10, 4 July 2022 (EDT)
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| − | Hello Kraang. I want to ask you about [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?1091 this series]. Title pages on the trade paperback copies I bought recently have the "A Requiem for Homo Sapiens" as a subtitle on the title page - I made notes about that on the two publications from the series I own - so should the titles not be edited to relect this. I note that only one book in the sequence - and one specific edition - [http://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?139791 this one] has it but in brackets. What do you think ? --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] 15:00, 3 July 2022 (EDT)
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| − | :We use to add these in the past, but no, series names in the title are not added, best to just leave a note about the title page.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 16:04, 3 July 2022 (EDT)
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| − | : I think it should be entered. Re Help page "8888-00-00 - The publication was announced (to be released in the past) but was not published." Just use the date in the example and it will appear as unpublished.
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| − | :Best to check with the other PV's and see what their books say. It looks like they both imported the Artie name so maybe a variant needs to be created.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 23:25, 8 July 2022 (EDT)
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| − | <br><br>Thanks! [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] 08:16, 30 July 2022 (EDT)
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| − | :The changes are fine. Thanks![[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 12:43, 30 July 2022 (EDT)
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| − | :Ok by me, remember Brain Child is a variant and after the change it needs to be unmerged and remerged with the parent title.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 22:39, 16 August 2022 (EDT)
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| − | ::My intention is to import the parent "The Brain Child" and then remove the variant "Brain Child". I believe that will avoid the need to unmerge / remerge. I need to make a further tweak to the Ursa Major story though. See [http://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Spacecow#Edmund_Cooper_.2F_Tomorrow.27s_Gift this discussion] on Spacecow's talk page about the space. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 17:45, 17 August 2022 (EDT)
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| − | ::It can be done several ways, just remember to delete the empty title record it will generate.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 22:19, 17 August 2022 (EDT)
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| − | ::: Just remove the faulty titles (both are variants) and import the (existing) 'new' title records. The Brain Child is the canonical in this case. It will auto-merge. Just saw you opened a new can of worms with M81: Ursa Major...--[[User:Dirk P Broer|Dirk P Broer]] 09:18, 18 August 2022 (EDT)
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| − | ::::I have just submitted the first edit. You say "remember to delete the empty title record". I presume you are referring to "Brain Child". However, I won't be able to do this because it won't actually be empty. It will still be contained in one publication: the Canadian printing. It seems very likely that this pub record has corresponding errors but it has been PVd by an editor who is no longer active (Bluesman) so I cannot ask him. So I will just have to leave it alone. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 18:32, 18 August 2022 (EDT)
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| − | :I have numerous books of this era & later that are US & CDN printings & the contents are always the same. This was done as a trick to get around content rules involving duties & taxes on printed material. Change the other to match unless there is strong objection.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 22:49, 18 August 2022 (EDT)
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| − | ::I have long suspected that US and Canadian printings of that era and later had identical contents but as I don't have the Canadian printing of Tomorrow's Gift, I can't PV it and another editor has PVd it so I was very reluctant to alter it. Nevertheless, based on your recommendation, I will now do so. These two pub records both require multiple edits so to assist myself in keeping track of where I am I will:<br>1) first make all the edits to the US printing<br>2) then make all the edits to the Canadian printing<br>3) then the title record for the variant "Brain Child" will be empty so I can delete it.<br>[[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 13:51, 19 August 2022 (EDT)
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| − | :The 1993 pamphlet is already hyphenated so just unmerge it and then make it a variant of the 1988 tp.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] 22:48, 26 August 2022 (EDT)
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| − | ::Thanks, I'm with it. Unmerge submitted. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] 08:06, 28 August 2022 (EDT)
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| − | Hi, Kraang. I have several Atheneum, Aladdin, Argo publisher updates in the queue from this week. One was approved by Anniemod two hours ago, {{pubr|1498|Aladdin}}. In fact that new annotation fits only about 1% of 2000 publications. What do you think of this plan?
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| − | * by 15 or so publication updates, change the name of the Macmillan-era children's imprint, about 1984-1994 (which my Note covers), from Aladdin to Aladdin / Macmillan. That will leave about 2000 "Aladdin" records as broadly contemporaneous with >200 as "Aladdin Paperbacks / Simon & Schuster" and >30 as "Aladdin Paperbacks" representing the Simon & Schuster era, 1994 to date.
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| − | * annotate the three later Aladdin publisher/imprint records, perhaps only slightly as cross-reference to the predecessor.
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| − | :I think we should proceed. If it helps, I can merge a publisher into one or the other name. As a moderator I have more leeway with publisher records.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] ([[User talk:Kraang|talk]]) 21:14, 18 September 2022 (EDT)
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| − | :: I have started work toward such a change, by improving some publication records without yet change in publisher name. Just now two genuine Macmillan-era Aladdins thus (submissions 5431216 5431222).
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| − | :: For one, all of 0-671- ISBN may be mis-attributions to Aladdin during this era, because Simon & Schuster later reissued those as Aladdins. Anniemod may be approving that batch this hour.
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| − | :: Don't know if/when I'll be back to that today Friday. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 14:14, 23 September 2022 (EDT)
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| − | ::: One small improvement is to rename the 1950s publisher {{pubr|31303|Aladdin Books}} as '''Aladdin Books / American Book Company'''. The short name is an "attractive nuisance"; we should not expect to handle such nuisances adequately by publisher notes such as --in this case, at publisher Aladdin-- "The Atheneum lineage is not related to the older publisher Aladdin Books."
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| − | ::: I suppose that you, as a moderator, can execute such a rename at https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/publisher.cgi?31303 --which will preserve the publisher ID 31303 and its current Webpages, Notes.
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| − | ::: I will be able immediately to follow-up and complete such a rename. There is only one use of template link {publisher|Aladdin Books} and a few text references; and one is needed at {{pubr|5223|American Book Company}}. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 14:37, 6 October 2022 (EDT)
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| − | ::::renamed, only two books involved.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] ([[User talk:Kraang|talk]]) 11:04, 7 October 2022 (EDT)
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| − | {outdent} Are you active this month? I expect to begin use of '''Aladdin Books / Macmillan''' (although Aladdin Books itself is now vacant). At least this weekend, all will be updates publications with LC catalog records as Aladdin Books, etc. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 12:15, 12 November 2022 (EST)
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| − | : Initially two: [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5485515 submission 5485515] and 5485518. When approved I will re-write and re-link as appropriate at publishers Aladdin / Atheneum; Aladdin; Aladdin Paperbacks / Simon & Schuster. --[[User:Pwendt|Pwendt]]|[[User talk:Pwendt|talk]] 13:27, 12 November 2022 (EST)
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| − | == Dick ~ Tubb / The Man Who Japed ~ The Space-Born ==
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| − | <br>I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?43778 The Man Who Japed ~ The Space-Born] and propose to change the date from 1956-00-00 to 1956-12-00 and add a pub note stating the source: [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?360808 Galactic Central Bibliography]. I will also add the month to the associated records (title and coverart). I will be adding the month to several other PKD books in the near future. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 16:45, 27 October 2022 (EDT)
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| − | : That's fine with me. Thanks![[User:Kraang|Kraang]] ([[User talk:Kraang|talk]]) 11:57, 29 October 2022 (EDT)
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| | Please keep an eye for the "Language mismatch" warnings when approving imports: [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5246823 this] should not have been approved - instead a new cover should have been created for the Dutch books and then varianted. We match the art language to the book language even when the titles are the same. I had unmerged and I am working through a series of these you approved so just dropping you a note. Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 13:54, 30 May 2023 (EDT) | | Please keep an eye for the "Language mismatch" warnings when approving imports: [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5246823 this] should not have been approved - instead a new cover should have been created for the Dutch books and then varianted. We match the art language to the book language even when the titles are the same. I had unmerged and I am working through a series of these you approved so just dropping you a note. Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 13:54, 30 May 2023 (EDT) |
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| | + | == Zebrowski - Ashes and Stars == |
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| | + | Hello, I'm letting you know I'm adding Reginald3 ID# to your PV'd {{P|186781|pub here}}. Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 02:08, 2 June 2023 (EDT) |
| | + | :Also to {{P|44249|The Monadic Universe}}. Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 16:06, 2 June 2023 (EDT) |
| | + | :If just adding ID's or extra data to notes I'm fine with that , no need to notify me, but thanks anyways. :)[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] ([[User talk:Kraang|talk]]) 16:01, 3 June 2023 (EDT) |
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| | + | == Zebrowski - The Omega Point Trilogy == |
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| | + | Hello, with regard to your {{P|93651|Canadian edition}}, I'm assuming that it's essentially the same as the {{P|277309|US edition}} which has pages as viii+295. Does yours have roman numeral numbered pages? If so, I suggest they should be recorded - even though there is/might be no content needing recording - per the pages help guide. What do you think? Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 19:46, 2 June 2023 (EDT) |
| | + | :The contents are the same just the cover is different, I'll update the page number. Thanks.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] ([[User talk:Kraang|talk]]) 16:03, 3 June 2023 (EDT) |
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| | + | == Cat People == |
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| | + | https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5675093; Some confusion here, in case you can clear it up. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:04, 7 June 2023 (EDT) |
| | + | :This was a stray pub, the database was full of them in the early days so I created a title record for it and moved on to the next one. The searching of databases & sellers is a lot easier now with all the links. All fixed now.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] ([[User talk:Kraang|talk]]) 19:41, 7 June 2023 (EDT) |
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| | + | == Zelazny - The Chronicles of Amber: Volume I == |
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| | + | Hello, way back when, you moderated the last two submissions for {{T|39628|this title}}. I can't find any justification or source for the date being 1979-01-01 instead of the Doubleday 1979-01-00. What do you think? Thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 21:20, 8 June 2023 (EDT) |
| | + | :No idea, just slipped in, so I'll make it go back one day to 1979-01-00.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] ([[User talk:Kraang|talk]]) 22:02, 8 June 2023 (EDT) |
| | + | :: :) thanks, Kev. --[[User:BanjoKev|BanjoKev]] ([[User talk:BanjoKev|talk]]) 22:16, 8 June 2023 (EDT) |
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| | + | == Jack Campbell: Invincible == |
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| | + | I have a pending submission to remove the series name from your PVed record. [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/mod/submission_review.cgi?5712286 submission]. Any problem with me finishing the approval? [[User:Philfreund|Phil]] ([[User talk:Philfreund|talk]]) 08:15, 7 July 2023 (EDT) |
| | + | :No problem change away.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] ([[User talk:Kraang|talk]]) 10:17, 7 July 2023 (EDT) |
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| | + | == Seedling Stars == |
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| | + | https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?128431; A copy was uploaded to Archive.org last fall so I've added a link in a PENDING edit but neither Open Library or Amazon seem to have the cover so maybe you'd like to upload yours or an online cover that looks like yours. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 08:46, 11 July 2023 (EDT) |
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| | + | == Recent approvals. == |
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| | + | Greetings Kraang, I've asked a new editor what makes a number of his new publication submissions eligible for inclusion. You may wish to comment [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/User_talk:Twisty#Speculative_Fiction.3F here] since you approved them. Thanks, [[User:Scifibones|<b>John</b> <small>Scifibones</small>]] 13:29, 12 July 2023 (EDT) |
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| | + | Hi! It would also be appreciated if you could keep an eye on text lengths. For example, [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?959237 this] - with 32 pages - can't be a novel as initially approved (I changed this one to CHAPBOOK). Thanks, Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] ([[User talk:Stonecreek|talk]]) 10:45, 13 July 2023 (EDT) |
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| | + | == Magazines dating question == |
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| | + | Hello Kraang, |
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| | + | Can you clarify the approved date [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5678636 here]? We date magazines based on their cover date and if another means is used, it needs to be in the notes. That applies to magazines where Amazon may have an exact date as well... I do not see a note explaining the dating. Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 14:18, 14 July 2023 (EDT) |
| | + | :Deal so little with magazines I forget about all the different rules, only approved the edit to get the stories. Please change the date to what it should be, I'll try to be more careful with magazine submissions in the future or I might just avoid magazine submissions altogether no matter how correct it looks. THanks![[User:Kraang|Kraang]] ([[User talk:Kraang|talk]]) 16:17, 14 July 2023 (EDT) |
| | + | :: I will work with the editor - they seem to have changed the date similarly in more than one magazine. Thanks! [[User:Anniemod|Annie]] ([[User talk:Anniemod|talk]]) 17:31, 14 July 2023 (EDT) |
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| | + | == Joe Haldeman / Camouflage - Cover Image == |
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| | + | I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?63142 Camouflage]. The Amazon image on this pub record is [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?351561 Artwork A] whereas my copy has [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1866095 Artwork B]. Can you please check your copy. If you agree, I will scan my cover, upload it and also correct the coverart record. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 18:56, 21 July 2023 (EDT) |
| | + | :Mine has the correct cover image ArtwokA.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] ([[User talk:Kraang|talk]]) 21:12, 21 July 2023 (EDT) |
| | + | :Had a better look & it's similar to ArtworkA but a bit different, but not at all like ArtworkB, will have to upload mine or find new Amazon image. Thanks![[User:Kraang|Kraang]] ([[User talk:Kraang|talk]]) 21:17, 21 July 2023 (EDT) |
| | + | :Replace image from Amazon with correct cover, will do a scan of covers in the future & replace this and some others.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] ([[User talk:Kraang|talk]]) 21:22, 21 July 2023 (EDT) |
| | + | ::The new Amazon image to which you have linked is the correct cover and it is Artwork B; it's just that the hb cover is much darker than the pb and ebook covers. The image is not ideal because it has the "Copyrighted Material" watermarks at top and bottom. Let me know whether you'd like me to upload and link a scan from my copy or whether you'd prefer to do it yourself. Also, the pub record needs to have the current Artwork A coverart record removed and the Artwork B coverart record imported. Again, please let me know whether you'd like me to submit edits for this or whether you'd prefer to do it yourself. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 11:18, 22 July 2023 (EDT) |
| | + | ::Please go ahead and upload your cover, plus all the necessary changes. Thanks![[User:Kraang|Kraang]] ([[User talk:Kraang|talk]]) 12:21, 22 July 2023 (EDT) |
| | + | :::I have submitted the first 3 of 5 edits. I will submit the last 2 after the first 3 have been processed. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 16:48, 22 July 2023 (EDT) |
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| | + | == Gaiman/Pratchett - Ein gutes Omen == |
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| | + | Hi, |
| | + | [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?961539 this submission] of mine was wrong. Don't know what happened there, may have mistakenly pressed enter or a browser hickup. Was intended for the 3rd printing of the Piper edition, which i've entered separately. As the faulty one was approved too, i have corrected it to an entry for the first printing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5722245]. Please take a look. [[User:Welo|Welo]] ([[User talk:Welo|talk]]) 02:57, 22 July 2023 (EDT) |
| | + | :No problem approved. Thanks![[User:Kraang|Kraang]] ([[User talk:Kraang|talk]]) 09:21, 22 July 2023 (EDT) |
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| | + | == The Hounds of God == |
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| | + | You recently moderated [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?41701 this] publication but did not take account of the note I made in reference to the cover art credit which is still wrong - shows Kevin Eugene Johnson not Steve Crisp. I can't edit the credit to the correct one since it's linked to the 'other' cover (the one by Johnson) that is decidedly not the same as the Steven Crisp cover. Take note that Steven Crisp and Steve Crisp are one and the same person. If you could use your moderation wand to sort that out that'd be great. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] ([[User talk:Mavmaramis|talk]]) 01:15, 28 July 2023 (EDT) |
| | + | :to fix this I'll unmerge the incorrect cover then change to Steven Crisp and last create variant to parent name Steve Crisp.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] ([[User talk:Kraang|talk]]) 10:27, 28 July 2023 (EDT) |
| | + | :There was an existing record for this cover[https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/title.cgi?1688421] under Steven Crisp name already variated to the parent name so I just merged the two records.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] ([[User talk:Kraang|talk]]) 10:34, 28 July 2023 (EDT) |
| | + | ::I was aware of the pb edition but, obviously, couldn't edit the incorrect data for the hardback edition. Thanks dfor waving your magic wand over that and sorting it out. --[[User:Mavmaramis|Mavmaramis]] ([[User talk:Mavmaramis|talk]]) 15:17, 28 July 2023 (EDT) |
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| | + | == Impact-20 == |
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| | + | https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?17894; http://bookscans.com/Publishers/pblib/pblib01.htm; I'd like to replace Impact-20 Amazon cover with Bookscans cover, color is less faded, if that's OK. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 09:21, 28 July 2023 (EDT) |
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| | + | == Alpha Yes, Terra No! / The Ballad of Beta-2 == |
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| | + | ● Can you please check your copy of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?282001 Alpha Yes, Terra No! / The Ballad of Beta-2]? According to [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?968140 Paperback Fantastic, Volume 1: Science Fiction] the cover of <i>The Ballad of Beta-2</i> is by Jack Gaughan, who is credited with <i> Alpha Yes, Terra No!</i> instead. Before permanent credit is assigned, I would like to know. [[User:MLB|MLB]] ([[User talk:MLB|talk]]) 23:59, 29 August 2023 (EDT) |
| | + | :The crediting is correctly stated but the cover credited to Ed Vligursky does not have the usual red color somewhere on the main character.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] ([[User talk:Kraang|talk]]) 00:22, 30 August 2023 (EDT) |
| | + | ::Well okay. I think I got that attribution straightened out. [[User:MLB|MLB]] ([[User talk:MLB|talk]]) 02:41, 2 September 2023 (EDT) |
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| | + | == This World Is Taboo == |
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| | + | Please see [https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#This_World_Is_Taboo this conversation] which would impact your verified {{P|202037|Ace Books edition}}. Thanks. -- [[User:JLaTondre|JLaTondre]] ([[User talk:JLaTondre#top|talk]]) 06:45, 1 October 2023 (EDT) |
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| | + | == Pillar of Fire == |
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| | + | https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5781830; Title is missing comma after the first "tomorrow". --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 11:41, 3 October 2023 (EDT) |
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| | + | == Death's Head == |
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| | + | You are PV2 for this title: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?97321 I just submitted this edit: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?97321 Cheers. [[User:Hifrommike65|Mike]] ([[User talk:Hifrommike65|talk]]) 22:53, 7 October 2023 (EDT) |
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| | + | == In the Ocean of Night == |
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| | + | Hi. I'm adding the lccn # to |
| | + | [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?18103 In the Ocean of Night] if that's OK with you. Thanks. [[User:Gzuckier|gzuckier]] ([[User talk:Gzuckier|talk]]) 23:21, 13 October 2023 (EDT) |
| | + | :One of the books I sold that I missed moving to transient, it appears that the LCCN is invalid did you miss type it?[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] ([[User talk:Kraang|talk]]) 11:18, 14 October 2023 (EDT) |
| | + | ::Just rechecked, it definitely says 77-87161. I guess I'll change that to a note. Thanks. [[User:Gzuckier|gzuckier]] ([[User talk:Gzuckier|talk]]) 20:54, 16 October 2023 (EDT) |
| | + | :::Approved the new update.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] ([[User talk:Kraang|talk]]) 22:35, 17 October 2023 (EDT) |
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| | + | == Conquest of the Amazon == |
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| | + | https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5791504; Should publisher be changed to either Orbit / Futura, Orbit / Futura Publications, or Orbit Book / Futura Publications, all of them publishers already on ISFDB, since Futura is also on the title page of this book? --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 21:57, 17 October 2023 (EDT) |
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| | + | == Avon Lem == |
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| | + | https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?165731; While adding Archive.org link in a PENDING edit I noticed there was no price so I entered it, $1.25, from top right corner. --[[User:Username|Username]] ([[User talk:Username|talk]]) 20:28, 5 November 2023 (EST) |
| | + | :It appears Stonecreek revered my title change & deleted the price(without notifying me), the records don't go back far enough to see what it was(the price).I no long have this book, if I was notified in 2021 I could have checked before I sold it.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] ([[User talk:Kraang|talk]]) 22:29, 5 November 2023 (EST) |
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| | + | == Eça de Queiroz == |
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| | + | There are differences, the translation reduces the 20 chapters to 17, I've read that it changes some things, but I would have to compare, Le caverne dei diamanti is described as a version of the story and not just a translation. |
| | + | [https://pt.wikisource.org/wiki/As_minas_do_rei_Salom%C3%A3o Eça de Queiroz's version on Wikisource].[[User:Hyju|Hyju]] ([[User talk:Hyju|talk]]) 08:36, 19 November 2023 (EST) |
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| | + | : Please be careful when adding additional authors: a reducement of chapters points toward an abridgement (which is no new version). These do occur quite frequently within translations. |
| | + | : For "King Solomon's Mines" [https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/As_Minas_de_Salom%C3%A3o Portuguese Wikipedia] only writes of a translation, and notes no differences; as does the cover of [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?979572 this publication]. Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] ([[User talk:Stonecreek|talk]]) 10:32, 19 November 2023 (EST) |
| | + | :: I found a [http://classicoslitinf-juvportuguesa.blogspot.com/2014/12/as-minas-de-salomao-eca-de-queirosking.html Portuguese blog] that says that Allan (called Alão Quartermar) in Eça's version, mentions knowing about Ophir, something that is not in the original text, I read and compared the two chapters on Wikisource: |
| | + | [https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/King_Solomon%27s_Mines/Chapter_II Haggard]: |
| | + | ''"'Ay,' said Evans, 'but I will spin you a queerer yarn than that;' and he went on to tell me how he had found in the far interior a ruined city, which he believed to be the Ophir of the Bible, and, by the way, other more learned men have said the same long since poor Evans' time. I was, I remember, listening open-eared to all these wonders, for I was young at the time, and this story of an ancient civilisation and of the treasures which those old Jewish or Phœnician adventurers used to extract from a country long since lapsed into the darkest barbarism took a great hold upon my imagination, when suddenly he said to me, 'Lad, did you ever hear of the Suliman Mountains up to the north-west of the Mashukulumbwe country?' I told him I never had. 'Ah, well,' he said, 'that is where Solomon really had his mines, his diamond mines, I mean.' '' |
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| | + | [https://pt.wikisource.org/wiki/As_minas_do_rei_Salom%C3%A3o/II Queiroz]: |
| | + | ''And he then told me that in the interior, very inland, he had discovered an ancient city, completely in ruins, which he was sure was Ophir, the famous Ophir of the Bible. I remember well the impression and amazement with which I heard the story of this Phoenician city lost in the African wilderness, with its remains of palaces, pools, temples, collapsed columns!... But then Evans remained silent, wondering. Suddenly he says: |
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| | + | — Have you ever heard of the Suliman mountains, some large mountains that lie beyond the territory of Machuculumbe, to the northwest? |
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| | + | — No, I never heard. |
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| | + | — Well, my boy, that's where Solomon truly had his mines, his diamond mines!ersion |
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| | + | — How do you know? |
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| | + | — How do you know!? It's funny! It is perfectly known. What is Suliman if not a corruption of Solomon? The name of the mountains, in fact, has always been Solomon's mountains. Furthermore, a witch from the district of Manica, an old woman over a hundred years old, told me everything... That is, she told me that beyond the mountains there live a people who are of the Zulu race, and speak a dialect Zulu; but as strength and corpulence, and courage, it is worth more than the Zulus. For among these people there are seers, great sorcerers, who from generation to generation have brought the secret of a prodigious mine, which belonged to a very ancient white king, and which is still full of white stones that shine... Luckily that there is no doubt. |
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| | + | For me there was all doubt. The ruins of Ophir interested me, as well as our belief and the Bible; but at the mines of shining white stones, known in secret by Zulu sorcerers, I would certainly have laughed had it not been for the respect due to such a worthy hunter as Evans. At dawn Evans left, ending up sadly on the butts of a buffalo. And I no longer thought about Solomon, nor about his diamond mines.'' ~ |
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| | + | It is possible that there are other excerpts added by Queiroz. |
| | + | [[User:Hyju|Hyju]] ([[User talk:Hyju|talk]]) 18:44, 19 November 2023 (EST) |
| | + | :I'm not sure what this is about and why it's on my page? Is this to do with a submission I approved?[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] ([[User talk:Kraang|talk]]) 23:30, 19 November 2023 (EST) |
| | + | ::You approved, but I saw that it wasn't you who changed the status of the title, it was Stonecreek. [[User:Hyju|Hyju]] ([[User talk:Hyju|talk]]) 05:30, 20 November 2023 (EST) |
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| | + | :: Still, adding a bit of information (or bettering an original text) in a translation does not add up to a completely new version. Other translators would perhaps add something like that in a footnote. There are numerous examples of translators enhancing an original version but don't getting any credit (except in note). And that's the crucial point here: according to the help pages, the author's name ''should be entered exactly as it actually appeared in the publication'' (that is, the title page of a novel publication). In this case there is no hint that Queiroz is credited as author. Christian [[User:Stonecreek|Stonecreek]] ([[User talk:Stonecreek|talk]]) 02:23, 20 November 2023 (EST) |
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| | + | Hi |
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| | + | You kindly moderated a new book record I added, and I'm having trouble adding the cover image. I've uploaded the image but can't figure out how to attach it to the book record. The "how to" page makes my head spin! |
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| | + | Would you be kind enough to add the image to the record? |
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| | + | Book record: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?989057 |
| | + | Image file: https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/File:DRKRSHDNWS2024.jpg |
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| | + | Many thanks in anticipation 😊 |
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| | + | [[User:Nimravus|Nimravus]] ([[User talk:Nimravus|talk]]) 03:25, 20 January 2024 (EST) |
| | + | :Image added. After upload go to the above Image file and click on the image itself. It will take you to this wiki image page[https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/images/4/42/DRKRSHDNWS2024.jpg], use this page. Hope this helps.[[User:Kraang|Kraang]] ([[User talk:Kraang|talk]]) 11:09, 22 January 2024 (EST) |
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| | + | :: Thanks for your help 🙂 [[User:Nimravus|Nimravus]] ([[User talk:Nimravus|talk]]) 15:11, 30 January 2024 (EST) |
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| | + | == Theodore Sturgeon / Some of Your Blood == |
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| | + | I am editing and PVing [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?230029 Some of Your Blood] and will supply the month: 1961-01-00 and state the source: [https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?360893 Galactic Central Bibliography]. [[User:Teallach|Teallach]] ([[User talk:Teallach|talk]]) 13:34, 28 February 2024 (EST) |
| | + | :Approved. Thanks![[User:Kraang|Kraang]] ([[User talk:Kraang|talk]]) 23:22, 28 February 2024 (EST) |
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SF: The Year's Greatest Science-Fiction and Fantasy Second Annual Volume / Title change discussion
Please respond at GlennMcG talk. --Glenn (talk) 19:52, 1 January 2023 (EST)
Reeve - Station Zero
Hi, first off, thanks for your moderating my submissions! Out of curiousity, what went wrong with this submission where you fixed the HTML? Was it two spaces instead of one between the text and the link? That's the only difference I can see. Thanks for fixing it anyway! Kev. --BanjoKev (talk) 07:00, 8 January 2023 (EST)
- There was an extra "< / ul >" that appeared to be the problem, since you use a similar template in notes I looked at a previous one & removed the extra. Happy to moderate submissions, took a couple of months of now I'm back.Kraang (talk) 21:26, 8 January 2023 (EST)
- Ah, found it, thanks, and welcome back! Incidentally, these two submissions 5530361 and 5530366 have been hanging around for a while. I wondered if they've dropped out of moderators sight...? Kev.--BanjoKev (talk) 10:55, 9 January 2023 (EST)
- Wow! Thanks! Kev. --BanjoKev (talk) 16:04, 9 January 2023 (EST)
Daniel Boring
Hi, Kraang. I have a (slightly ridiculous) question about David Boring. Back in 2009, you added the note about it being reviewed in an SF publication. Do you know which? It doesn't have any reviews listed right now. I know it's been years, but I'm curious. Thanks! —Rosab618 (talk) 03:13, 20 January 2023 (EST)
- No idea now. I did a lot of cleanup of non-genre & graphic novels at the time. Possibly a link to the review has been deleted, being of a graphic novel. Now all that is left is the novel & my note. Hope this helps.Kraang (talk) 12:11, 20 January 2023 (EST)
- Aha! I found it: [1]. I'll change it back to a review. —Rosab618 (talk) 12:16, 20 January 2023 (EST)
- I would not change it to a review - the graphic novel is NOT eligible to be here... Annie (talk) 12:54, 20 January 2023 (EST)
La canción de Bêlit
The novel was published in Brazil, but they divided it into four parts, only volume 1 came out, how do I register?Hyju (talk) 14:16, 29 January 2023 (EST)
- Add the publication in as a Chapbook and in the Regular Title section add (Part 1 of 4) or (Vol 1) after title, then make title type a serial. Are the other three parts going to be published? If not then a note would help explain it's intension to be a novel but has not been completed. Hope this helps, I'll lookout for your submission.Kraang (talk) 23:33, 29 January 2023 (EST)
- the publisher's page says it would be published in two volumes, the cover artist's Facebook page says in four parts, however, only the first volume was published, nothing was said if there will be continuation. I think the illustrator is right, as the original book has 572 pages and this one has 176. In the original book, it seems to already be divided into 4 parts. Hyju (talk) 12:21, 30 January 2023 (EST)
- Looking at the original (2017) Spanish text, I see the following note:
- Robert E. Howard's [novelette] "La Reina de la Costa Negra", which is included in its entirety in this novel, was originally published in Weird Tales in May 1934 as "The Queen of the Black Coast." The Spanish translation is the work of Rodolfo Martínez [...]
- This explains why the title page and the cover credit both Howard and Martínez. I suggest that we add Howard's name to the Spanish title as well as to the proposed Portuguese title.
- I can also confirm that the Spanish original consists of 4 "cuarta"s ("quarters"), so it seems likely that a 176-page book would contain the first "quarter" as opposed to the first half of the original, which is 572 pages long. Furthermore, the Spanish original is 168K words long. The four "quarters" are novella length since they are under the 40K limit:
- First "quarter" -- 19%
- Second "quarter" -- 23%
- Third "quarter" -- 23%
- Fourth "quarter" -- 21%
- Appendices, including Martínez's translation of Howard's fictionalized essay "The Hyborian Age" -- 12%
- This means that Kraang's guess above is correct and they are, in ISFDB terms, SERIALs as opposed to "split novels". Ahasuerus (talk) 13:33, 30 January 2023 (EST)
- Yes, the subtitle in Portuguese is "A tigresa e o leão", which is the same as "la tigresa y el léon" described as "libro primero" (first book).Hyju (talk) 19:45, 30 January 2023 (EST)
Enter the first book with as much detail you can find & I'll fix it up as best I can. I'll deal with the other submission tomorrow night when I get home. Thanks!Kraang (talk) 23:24, 30 January 2023 (EST)
- A second book was published A canção de Bêlit: a última jornadaHyju (talk) 09:57, 1 May 2023 (EDT)
I understand, in fact the novel is divided into four parts and each book publishes two parts. Hyju (talk) 09:29, 11 May 2023 (EDT)
Pwendt for self-approver
Hi, Kraang. Happy New Year! I hope to be a self-approver imminently. I prefer to be nominated by another, but I plan to nominate myself ("Self-nomination for self-approver") sometime tomorrow if none of you, plural, is available ready and willing in the next 20 hours or so. I write to a couple others too. --Pwendt|talk 15:42, 2 February 2023 (EST)
- Back form short holiday will support self-approver.Kraang (talk) 21:34, 7 February 2023 (EST)
Theodora Goss / The Thorn and the Blossom - Deletion Problem
You have processed all my submissions for this title to date but I'm now stuck on a step. As you know, I'm converting this from a Chapbook with a Novella to a Collection with two Novelettes. I now want to delete the Novella record as it has no associated pubs but I can't. When I try to "Delete This Title", I get the message "Error: 1 awards still refer to this title". There is no option to remove the Award or the Reviews so how do I go about deleting the Novella? Incidentally, I have taken a note of the Award and 5 Reviews and will import them to the container title for the Collection once it has been created. Thanks in advance for your help. Teallach (talk) 07:54, 12 February 2023 (EST)
- Yes, but it seems it is the piece of shortfiction that got the award, and it should have been published somewhere (or was it handed to one of the two new titles?). Or it may be possible to link the award to the collection instead. Christian Stonecreek (talk) 09:02, 12 February 2023 (EST)
- I'll have a look at this tonight. Thanks!Kraang (talk) 11:33, 12 February 2023 (EST)
- Ok everything should be fixed, the award & reviews are there , except the award describes it as "Best Novelette". Maybe an explanation should be added to explain the difference.Kraang (talk) 13:38, 12 February 2023 (EST)
- All looks good now, thanks. One last piece of tidying up: deletion of the old, incorrectly titled Interiorart record. I have submitted an edit to do this. I see where you're coming from regarding an explanation of the Locus award as "Best Novelette" but I have no idea why Locus considered it to be a Novelette. The approx word counts are: Brendan's Story - 10,500 and Evelyn's Story - 10,900. So even if you consider the whole work to be a single piece of fiction (which it isn't), the total word count is 21,400 hence Novella. Teallach (talk) 17:46, 12 February 2023 (EST)
Link fix
Thanks for your time fixing that wrong image link :) Kev. --BanjoKev (talk) 07:42, 13 February 2023 (EST)
Asimov - I, Robot - by Fawcett Crest
Hi, re your PV here, this is just a heads-up to point to my discussion with Tom Taweiss regarding Fawcett covers and this 1970 printing. You might find something there for yours. Kev. --BanjoKev (talk) 00:53, 25 February 2023 (EST)
- I'll have a look at my copy tonight and see if there is anything to add. Thanks!Kraang (talk) 12:32, 25 February 2023 (EST)
Self-Approver
Hello, as you're in the list of moderators handling my most recent submission, can you please comment on https://isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/ISFDB:Community_Portal#Self-Moderation_Request? --Stoecker (talk) 06:43, 11 March 2023 (EST)
:)
Thanks for the work you're doing and for fixing the asterisk - don't know how that got in there... Kev. --BanjoKev (talk) 22:59, 4 April 2023 (EDT)
- Easy fix once I figured out what was wrong, was not obvious at first.Kraang (talk) 23:14, 4 April 2023 (EDT)
Signet -> Signet / New American Library
Any objection to changing this to Signet / New American Library
--Spacecow (talk) 04:13, 12 April 2023 (EDT)
- Please submit the change. Thanks!Kraang (talk) 11:23, 12 April 2023 (EDT)
:)
Many thanks! Kev. --BanjoKev (talk) 22:56, 28 April 2023 (EDT)
- I'll have a go at the rest tomorrow if there still on the board. I see what you are doing but in a way that may take a bit of unmerging and re merging. I need to look at all the relevant edits before I proceed. Thanks!Kraang (talk) 23:06, 28 April 2023 (EDT)
- Please don't take any actions further to my outstanding edits (apart from approval or not), as I'm aware of everything that needs to be done going forward and I'm tracking it all - what needs to be done in which order. Thanks again, Kev. --BanjoKev (talk) 23:26, 28 April 2023 (EDT)
- OK, I'll do them now. As an alternative method just unmerge the publications & rename if necessary, then remerged with the correct title record. Generally this will have less steps. Hope this helps. :)Kraang (talk) 23:43, 28 April 2023 (EDT)
- Yes, I tried considering the number of steps involved, trying to work out the most efficient (and I've unmerged/remerged in the past) but I opted for the simple one-step-at-a time approach as the whole thing is quite complex. But thanks for your considerate thought :) Kev. --BanjoKev (talk) 23:47, 28 April 2023 (EDT)
- Getting back to my 'pending', I see you've cleared them all. What excellent communication! Kev. --BanjoKev (talk) 23:50, 28 April 2023 (EDT)
Happy to help. Thanks!Kraang (talk) 23:54, 28 April 2023 (EDT)
- Impressive! Thanks again :) Kev. --BanjoKev (talk) 23:20, 18 May 2023 (EDT)
Incorrect info added to database
Hello Kraang, I am one of the editors of the Brazilian magazine Histórias Extraordinárias. We have published six issues so far. The latest one was published in April 2023 and it has been added recently to the database (submission #5652271).
I noticed that two more records appeared, probably submitted by someone else but approved by you. They somehow duplicate the info (with much less detail), but incorrectly state that Histórias Extraordinárias is an ANTHOLOGY, which it is not. It is a magazine that publishes new material.
The incorrect publication records are: #950021 and #950023.
We just launched all six issues in digital versions (PDF) so I believe that the submitter wants to include them. I agree that they should appear as different format, but we should at least just duplicate the existing information (which is "official" and more comprehensive) changing only the format. Can you please help us in this regard once we sort out these two "rogue" records? :)
The six magazine issues so far are the following:
Histórias Extraordinárias Magazine
| Issue number |
detail |
Pub record |
Incorrect
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| Issue 1 |
December 2020 |
#913217 |
#950021
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| Issue 2 |
April 2021 |
#914003 |
#950023
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| Issue 3 |
August 2021 |
#914004 |
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| Issue 4 |
December 2021 |
#914005 |
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| Issue 5 |
August 2022 |
#915288 |
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| Issue 6 |
April 2023 |
#950024 |
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As a side note, the latest issue is not appearing in the publication series #67858. I spotted a difference in how the title is formatted in the Title Record and submitted a change request in order to correct it (submission #5659612). I ask you to please review and apply the suitable correction. Thanks!
--Pugno (talk) 22:32, 8 May 2023 (EDT)
- Sorry about the mix-up, if I had realized it was a magazine I would have left it for some one else. I'll have a look at the submission and approve if it looks ok, if I'm uncertain I'll flag it for a mod who deals more with magazines. Thanks!Kraang (talk) 23:14, 8 May 2023 (EDT)
- I think the best thing to do is delete the rogue entries and the you can submit a clone of an existing pub with the necessary changes.Kraang (talk) 23:22, 8 May 2023 (EDT)
- Rogue records have been deleted, just use the cloning option, this way no merging or changing title records is necessary, everything will be where it should be.Kraang (talk) 23:33, 8 May 2023 (EDT)
- Thanks for your help with the rogue entries! Now I will ask you help with another matter: The latest issue (pub record #950024) does not appear listed along with the previous five. I refer to the page in the link that appears here. Can you please help with this as well? I don't know what to change in the pub info to link it to the others. Thanks!
- Update: I have just submitted a clone request for the first 5 issues, changing the format to ebook and adding the format (PDF) to the notes field. I will do the same to Issue 6 once we sort out the above point. Thanks and have a good day!
- --Pugno (talk) 13:07, 9 May 2023 (EDT)
- All fixed just had to add the series name to the title record.Kraang (talk) 18:23, 9 May 2023 (EDT)
- Perfect! Thank you very much!! Now I just created the variants for the artworks in the latest issue, and once they are approved, I will clone it to the ebook format. Thank you for all your help!!
- --Pugno (talk) 19:30, 9 May 2023 (EDT)
Not a Variant
Hello Kraang, I recently submitted two title update requests because I noticed a typo in the title of a short sory and its accompaining interiorart.
Issue 1 of "Histórias Extraordinárias" magazine (December 2020) contains a short story called "Hypnos e Morfeu". However, when inserting the data months ago, I wrote "Morfeus" (with an "s") instead of "Morfeu". The story also has an interiorart which received the same name (wrong, with the 's').
I noticed the error last week and submitted two requests:
1) Submission #5661908 to change the short story title (Title Record #3076119)
2) Submission #5661909 to change the interiorart title (Title Record #3076118)
The titles are shared by the bedsheet and ebook publications (ebook is a clone of the bedsheet).
However, while for the interiorart it seems all ok, the short story lists the correct name as a variant of the old name, which it is not. The old title should be deleted and the corrected title should be kept. We should just correct the typo, not create a variant.
It currently appears as --> Variant Title of: Hypnos e Morfeus (by Marcus Garrett) [may list more publications, awards, reviews, votes and covers]
Can you please help with this?
I believe that deleting this record would be enough to break this "variant link" but I am not sure, so I am asking for your help.
Thanks.
--Pugno (talk) 19:41, 13 May 2023 (EDT)
- I dropped the "s" on the parent title, but the variant is correct since the short story is written using an alternate name. A variant is created to the parent name "Marcus Garrett".Kraang (talk) 23:25, 13 May 2023 (EDT)
- OK! I stand corrected. Thanks for fixing the issue of the extra "s". All seems to be OK now. Sorry about the inconvenience. Have a nice week! --Pugno (talk) 19:57, 15 May 2023 (EDT)
Live Free or Die
Just a note that I fixed a capitalization issue ("or" was recorded as "Or") on your verified. Annie (talk) 15:24, 23 May 2023 (EDT)
Abhorsen
Hello,
Please keep an eye for the "Language mismatch" warnings when approving imports: this should not have been approved - instead a new cover should have been created for the Dutch books and then varianted. We match the art language to the book language even when the titles are the same. I had unmerged and I am working through a series of these you approved so just dropping you a note. Thanks! Annie (talk) 13:54, 30 May 2023 (EDT)
Zebrowski - Ashes and Stars
Hello, I'm letting you know I'm adding Reginald3 ID# to your PV'd pub here. Thanks, Kev. --BanjoKev (talk) 02:08, 2 June 2023 (EDT)
- Also to The Monadic Universe. Kev. --BanjoKev (talk) 16:06, 2 June 2023 (EDT)
- If just adding ID's or extra data to notes I'm fine with that , no need to notify me, but thanks anyways. :)Kraang (talk) 16:01, 3 June 2023 (EDT)
Zebrowski - The Omega Point Trilogy
Hello, with regard to your Canadian edition, I'm assuming that it's essentially the same as the US edition which has pages as viii+295. Does yours have roman numeral numbered pages? If so, I suggest they should be recorded - even though there is/might be no content needing recording - per the pages help guide. What do you think? Thanks, Kev. --BanjoKev (talk) 19:46, 2 June 2023 (EDT)
- The contents are the same just the cover is different, I'll update the page number. Thanks.Kraang (talk) 16:03, 3 June 2023 (EDT)
Cat People
https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5675093; Some confusion here, in case you can clear it up. --Username (talk) 11:04, 7 June 2023 (EDT)
- This was a stray pub, the database was full of them in the early days so I created a title record for it and moved on to the next one. The searching of databases & sellers is a lot easier now with all the links. All fixed now.Kraang (talk) 19:41, 7 June 2023 (EDT)
Zelazny - The Chronicles of Amber: Volume I
Hello, way back when, you moderated the last two submissions for this title. I can't find any justification or source for the date being 1979-01-01 instead of the Doubleday 1979-01-00. What do you think? Thanks, Kev. --BanjoKev (talk) 21:20, 8 June 2023 (EDT)
- No idea, just slipped in, so I'll make it go back one day to 1979-01-00.Kraang (talk) 22:02, 8 June 2023 (EDT)
- :) thanks, Kev. --BanjoKev (talk) 22:16, 8 June 2023 (EDT)
Jack Campbell: Invincible
I have a pending submission to remove the series name from your PVed record. submission. Any problem with me finishing the approval? Phil (talk) 08:15, 7 July 2023 (EDT)
- No problem change away.Kraang (talk) 10:17, 7 July 2023 (EDT)
Seedling Stars
https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?128431; A copy was uploaded to Archive.org last fall so I've added a link in a PENDING edit but neither Open Library or Amazon seem to have the cover so maybe you'd like to upload yours or an online cover that looks like yours. --Username (talk) 08:46, 11 July 2023 (EDT)
Recent approvals.
Greetings Kraang, I've asked a new editor what makes a number of his new publication submissions eligible for inclusion. You may wish to comment here since you approved them. Thanks, John Scifibones 13:29, 12 July 2023 (EDT)
Hi! It would also be appreciated if you could keep an eye on text lengths. For example, this - with 32 pages - can't be a novel as initially approved (I changed this one to CHAPBOOK). Thanks, Christian Stonecreek (talk) 10:45, 13 July 2023 (EDT)
Magazines dating question
Hello Kraang,
Can you clarify the approved date here? We date magazines based on their cover date and if another means is used, it needs to be in the notes. That applies to magazines where Amazon may have an exact date as well... I do not see a note explaining the dating. Thanks! Annie (talk) 14:18, 14 July 2023 (EDT)
- Deal so little with magazines I forget about all the different rules, only approved the edit to get the stories. Please change the date to what it should be, I'll try to be more careful with magazine submissions in the future or I might just avoid magazine submissions altogether no matter how correct it looks. THanks!Kraang (talk) 16:17, 14 July 2023 (EDT)
- I will work with the editor - they seem to have changed the date similarly in more than one magazine. Thanks! Annie (talk) 17:31, 14 July 2023 (EDT)
Joe Haldeman / Camouflage - Cover Image
I am editing and PVing Camouflage. The Amazon image on this pub record is Artwork A whereas my copy has Artwork B. Can you please check your copy. If you agree, I will scan my cover, upload it and also correct the coverart record. Teallach (talk) 18:56, 21 July 2023 (EDT)
- Mine has the correct cover image ArtwokA.Kraang (talk) 21:12, 21 July 2023 (EDT)
- Had a better look & it's similar to ArtworkA but a bit different, but not at all like ArtworkB, will have to upload mine or find new Amazon image. Thanks!Kraang (talk) 21:17, 21 July 2023 (EDT)
- Replace image from Amazon with correct cover, will do a scan of covers in the future & replace this and some others.Kraang (talk) 21:22, 21 July 2023 (EDT)
- The new Amazon image to which you have linked is the correct cover and it is Artwork B; it's just that the hb cover is much darker than the pb and ebook covers. The image is not ideal because it has the "Copyrighted Material" watermarks at top and bottom. Let me know whether you'd like me to upload and link a scan from my copy or whether you'd prefer to do it yourself. Also, the pub record needs to have the current Artwork A coverart record removed and the Artwork B coverart record imported. Again, please let me know whether you'd like me to submit edits for this or whether you'd prefer to do it yourself. Teallach (talk) 11:18, 22 July 2023 (EDT)
- Please go ahead and upload your cover, plus all the necessary changes. Thanks!Kraang (talk) 12:21, 22 July 2023 (EDT)
- I have submitted the first 3 of 5 edits. I will submit the last 2 after the first 3 have been processed. Teallach (talk) 16:48, 22 July 2023 (EDT)
Gaiman/Pratchett - Ein gutes Omen
Hi,
this submission of mine was wrong. Don't know what happened there, may have mistakenly pressed enter or a browser hickup. Was intended for the 3rd printing of the Piper edition, which i've entered separately. As the faulty one was approved too, i have corrected it to an entry for the first printing [2]. Please take a look. Welo (talk) 02:57, 22 July 2023 (EDT)
- No problem approved. Thanks!Kraang (talk) 09:21, 22 July 2023 (EDT)
The Hounds of God
You recently moderated this publication but did not take account of the note I made in reference to the cover art credit which is still wrong - shows Kevin Eugene Johnson not Steve Crisp. I can't edit the credit to the correct one since it's linked to the 'other' cover (the one by Johnson) that is decidedly not the same as the Steven Crisp cover. Take note that Steven Crisp and Steve Crisp are one and the same person. If you could use your moderation wand to sort that out that'd be great. --Mavmaramis (talk) 01:15, 28 July 2023 (EDT)
- to fix this I'll unmerge the incorrect cover then change to Steven Crisp and last create variant to parent name Steve Crisp.Kraang (talk) 10:27, 28 July 2023 (EDT)
- There was an existing record for this cover[3] under Steven Crisp name already variated to the parent name so I just merged the two records.Kraang (talk) 10:34, 28 July 2023 (EDT)
- I was aware of the pb edition but, obviously, couldn't edit the incorrect data for the hardback edition. Thanks dfor waving your magic wand over that and sorting it out. --Mavmaramis (talk) 15:17, 28 July 2023 (EDT)
Impact-20
https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?17894; http://bookscans.com/Publishers/pblib/pblib01.htm; I'd like to replace Impact-20 Amazon cover with Bookscans cover, color is less faded, if that's OK. --Username (talk) 09:21, 28 July 2023 (EDT)
Alpha Yes, Terra No! / The Ballad of Beta-2
● Can you please check your copy of Alpha Yes, Terra No! / The Ballad of Beta-2? According to Paperback Fantastic, Volume 1: Science Fiction the cover of The Ballad of Beta-2 is by Jack Gaughan, who is credited with Alpha Yes, Terra No! instead. Before permanent credit is assigned, I would like to know. MLB (talk) 23:59, 29 August 2023 (EDT)
- The crediting is correctly stated but the cover credited to Ed Vligursky does not have the usual red color somewhere on the main character.Kraang (talk) 00:22, 30 August 2023 (EDT)
- Well okay. I think I got that attribution straightened out. MLB (talk) 02:41, 2 September 2023 (EDT)
This World Is Taboo
Please see this conversation which would impact your verified Ace Books edition. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 06:45, 1 October 2023 (EDT)
Pillar of Fire
https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5781830; Title is missing comma after the first "tomorrow". --Username (talk) 11:41, 3 October 2023 (EDT)
Death's Head
You are PV2 for this title: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?97321 I just submitted this edit: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?97321 Cheers. Mike (talk) 22:53, 7 October 2023 (EDT)
In the Ocean of Night
Hi. I'm adding the lccn # to
In the Ocean of Night if that's OK with you. Thanks. gzuckier (talk) 23:21, 13 October 2023 (EDT)
- One of the books I sold that I missed moving to transient, it appears that the LCCN is invalid did you miss type it?Kraang (talk) 11:18, 14 October 2023 (EDT)
- Just rechecked, it definitely says 77-87161. I guess I'll change that to a note. Thanks. gzuckier (talk) 20:54, 16 October 2023 (EDT)
- Approved the new update.Kraang (talk) 22:35, 17 October 2023 (EDT)
Conquest of the Amazon
https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/view_submission.cgi?5791504; Should publisher be changed to either Orbit / Futura, Orbit / Futura Publications, or Orbit Book / Futura Publications, all of them publishers already on ISFDB, since Futura is also on the title page of this book? --Username (talk) 21:57, 17 October 2023 (EDT)
Avon Lem
https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?165731; While adding Archive.org link in a PENDING edit I noticed there was no price so I entered it, $1.25, from top right corner. --Username (talk) 20:28, 5 November 2023 (EST)
- It appears Stonecreek revered my title change & deleted the price(without notifying me), the records don't go back far enough to see what it was(the price).I no long have this book, if I was notified in 2021 I could have checked before I sold it.Kraang (talk) 22:29, 5 November 2023 (EST)
Eça de Queiroz
There are differences, the translation reduces the 20 chapters to 17, I've read that it changes some things, but I would have to compare, Le caverne dei diamanti is described as a version of the story and not just a translation.
Eça de Queiroz's version on Wikisource.Hyju (talk) 08:36, 19 November 2023 (EST)
- Please be careful when adding additional authors: a reducement of chapters points toward an abridgement (which is no new version). These do occur quite frequently within translations.
- For "King Solomon's Mines" Portuguese Wikipedia only writes of a translation, and notes no differences; as does the cover of this publication. Christian Stonecreek (talk) 10:32, 19 November 2023 (EST)
- I found a Portuguese blog that says that Allan (called Alão Quartermar) in Eça's version, mentions knowing about Ophir, something that is not in the original text, I read and compared the two chapters on Wikisource:
Haggard:
"'Ay,' said Evans, 'but I will spin you a queerer yarn than that;' and he went on to tell me how he had found in the far interior a ruined city, which he believed to be the Ophir of the Bible, and, by the way, other more learned men have said the same long since poor Evans' time. I was, I remember, listening open-eared to all these wonders, for I was young at the time, and this story of an ancient civilisation and of the treasures which those old Jewish or Phœnician adventurers used to extract from a country long since lapsed into the darkest barbarism took a great hold upon my imagination, when suddenly he said to me, 'Lad, did you ever hear of the Suliman Mountains up to the north-west of the Mashukulumbwe country?' I told him I never had. 'Ah, well,' he said, 'that is where Solomon really had his mines, his diamond mines, I mean.'
Queiroz:
And he then told me that in the interior, very inland, he had discovered an ancient city, completely in ruins, which he was sure was Ophir, the famous Ophir of the Bible. I remember well the impression and amazement with which I heard the story of this Phoenician city lost in the African wilderness, with its remains of palaces, pools, temples, collapsed columns!... But then Evans remained silent, wondering. Suddenly he says:
— Have you ever heard of the Suliman mountains, some large mountains that lie beyond the territory of Machuculumbe, to the northwest?
— No, I never heard.
— Well, my boy, that's where Solomon truly had his mines, his diamond mines!ersion
— How do you know?
— How do you know!? It's funny! It is perfectly known. What is Suliman if not a corruption of Solomon? The name of the mountains, in fact, has always been Solomon's mountains. Furthermore, a witch from the district of Manica, an old woman over a hundred years old, told me everything... That is, she told me that beyond the mountains there live a people who are of the Zulu race, and speak a dialect Zulu; but as strength and corpulence, and courage, it is worth more than the Zulus. For among these people there are seers, great sorcerers, who from generation to generation have brought the secret of a prodigious mine, which belonged to a very ancient white king, and which is still full of white stones that shine... Luckily that there is no doubt.
For me there was all doubt. The ruins of Ophir interested me, as well as our belief and the Bible; but at the mines of shining white stones, known in secret by Zulu sorcerers, I would certainly have laughed had it not been for the respect due to such a worthy hunter as Evans. At dawn Evans left, ending up sadly on the butts of a buffalo. And I no longer thought about Solomon, nor about his diamond mines. ~
It is possible that there are other excerpts added by Queiroz.
Hyju (talk) 18:44, 19 November 2023 (EST)
:I'm not sure what this is about and why it's on my page? Is this to do with a submission I approved?Kraang (talk) 23:30, 19 November 2023 (EST)
- You approved, but I saw that it wasn't you who changed the status of the title, it was Stonecreek. Hyju (talk) 05:30, 20 November 2023 (EST)
- Still, adding a bit of information (or bettering an original text) in a translation does not add up to a completely new version. Other translators would perhaps add something like that in a footnote. There are numerous examples of translators enhancing an original version but don't getting any credit (except in note). And that's the crucial point here: according to the help pages, the author's name should be entered exactly as it actually appeared in the publication (that is, the title page of a novel publication). In this case there is no hint that Queiroz is credited as author. Christian Stonecreek (talk) 02:23, 20 November 2023 (EST)
Adding Cover Image
Hi
You kindly moderated a new book record I added, and I'm having trouble adding the cover image. I've uploaded the image but can't figure out how to attach it to the book record. The "how to" page makes my head spin!
Would you be kind enough to add the image to the record?
Book record: https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pl.cgi?989057
Image file: https://www.isfdb.org/wiki/index.php/File:DRKRSHDNWS2024.jpg
Many thanks in anticipation 😊
Nimravus (talk) 03:25, 20 January 2024 (EST)
- Image added. After upload go to the above Image file and click on the image itself. It will take you to this wiki image page[4], use this page. Hope this helps.Kraang (talk) 11:09, 22 January 2024 (EST)
- Thanks for your help 🙂 Nimravus (talk) 15:11, 30 January 2024 (EST)
Theodore Sturgeon / Some of Your Blood
I am editing and PVing Some of Your Blood and will supply the month: 1961-01-00 and state the source: Galactic Central Bibliography. Teallach (talk) 13:34, 28 February 2024 (EST)
- Approved. Thanks!Kraang (talk) 23:22, 28 February 2024 (EST)
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